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#rockbox log for 2004-12-17

00:00:03amiconnhip hopper
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00:16:38quelsarukBagder, away? (i hope he doesn't say *yes* ;) )
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02:04:28quelsaruktime to sleep
02:04:31quelsarukcu another day
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08:07:41amiconnGood morning
08:09:20LinusNmorn
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08:10:26dwihnoGoth mourning! :[
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08:20:44amiconnLinusN: What do you think about doing a 2.3.1 release, at least for Ondio, or doing the 2.4 release soon?
08:20:53amiconnI'm asking because there are now at least 2 cases of Ondio owners who flashed the 2.3 release, and were faced with a non-working unit, because the 2.3 Ondio version does not yet support all hardware versions
08:21:07amiconn(namely those with mask_bit_2 == 0)
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08:26:16amiconnOf course the non-working rockbox issue does also occur when rockbox is not flashed, but this is a bit easier to recover from
08:33:19LinusNi'll discuss it with zagor and bagder this weekend
08:33:39LinusNi agree that a new release is important
08:36:30amiconnOkay. Is the next weekend the rockbox session weekend?
08:39:25LinusNyes, secret devcon tomorrow
08:42:00amiconnWell, it seems to be not completely secret ;)
08:47:10LinusN:-)
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08:59:57dwihnoLinusN: devcon!? :O
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09:00:37LinusNnaah
09:00:46dwihno:)
09:00:49dwihnoYou scared me
09:01:05dwihnoI must join and spread my menu re-organizing propaganda ;)
09:01:28dwihnoAs well as proposals to re-structure menu and settings code :)
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11:13:15amiconnLinusN: Could you (or should I if it is possible) add the player flash package to the news section?
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11:24:16quelsarukmorning to all
11:26:24amiconnmorning quelsaruk
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12:01:43LinusNamiconn: main.t in the www/ dir
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12:15:16quelsarukarggg..-. now i'm like acid
12:16:27LinusNAciD: come on, fix your connection
12:16:42quelsarukhey
12:16:46quelsaruktoday he's stable
12:16:53quelsarukit's me the jumping guy
12:16:54LinusNno
12:16:59quelsaruk:P
12:18:00LinusNAciD: we don't want to ban you, but we are really tired of your bouncing
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12:54:08AciDi can understand that
12:54:30AciDi'll have some days off starting monday, i'll take a look at my server
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13:26:57webguest57who
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13:27:25dwihnothe ever lasting question
13:31:49quelsaruky prefer the why question
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14:04:26quelsarukre
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15:44:29quelsaruksincerely, i'm going to change this ralink wi-fi card
15:44:30quelsaruk:/
15:48:02quelsarukhmm
15:48:08quelsarukgerman speaker?
15:48:10quelsarukhere?
15:48:11quelsaruk:D
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16:03:27amiconnhi [IDC]Dragon
16:04:37quelsarukhej
16:06:06amiconnhi quelsaruk
16:06:21amiconnquelsaruk: Btw, now there are 2 german speakers around
16:06:38quelsarukwell.. i managed to translate what i wanted
16:06:40quelsaruk:)
16:06:43quelsarukthanks anyway
16:07:01quelsaruki never know if you are awake or away :)
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16:16:24quelsarukhi edx
16:16:38edxhi
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16:37:07|Quelsar|arggg...
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18:37:02webguest94hey guys, I just wanted to say thank you for creating Rockbox, you guys ROCK!!!
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18:40:18*[IDC]Dragon is back
18:42:06[IDC]Dragonamiconn: r u there?
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18:52:42quelsarukre-hi
18:56:02amiconn[IDC]Dragon: I am (somewaht)
18:57:00[IDC]Dragon:-)
18:57:21[IDC]Dragoncongratulations to your player flash release
18:57:38[IDC]Dragonyou finally dared to
18:57:56[IDC]Dragonany feedback yet?
18:58:34quelsaruki wonder if someone still uses the player.. apart from developers ;)
18:58:54[IDC]Dragonwhy not?
18:59:06quelsarukhmm evolution?
18:59:22[IDC]DragonArchos sold way more of them than recorders
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19:00:51[IDC]Dragon(I was told)
19:00:56quelsarukbut... i don't know.. if i had a player it would be probably destroyed for now, i would think about buying a new one.. and why not evolute to a "better" version??
19:01:30quelsaruki bought a recorder 6 when they released it (i don't even have serial number on the recorder) and had to buy a new recorder 20 last year
19:01:32quelsaruk:)
19:01:49quelsaruktoo many bugs repaired using a hammer...
19:07:28amiconn[IDC]Dragon: Ondio FM has normal power consumption (not unusually hungry like yours was), does have a Philips tuner and is already flashed :)
19:08:03[IDC]Dragonnice
19:08:26amiconn(player flash) No feedback yet by someone who actually did it, only the question about the archos image version on the ml
19:08:54[IDC]DragonI'll miror your file
19:10:17[IDC]Dragonand perhaps work on make_firmware to work with rombox
19:10:45[IDC]DragonI was once facing that, too, and made an image "by hand" (for Jake)
19:11:15amiconnIt tells about the only compression supported is 2E, and the rombox.ucl would use 43 (?)
19:11:47[IDC]DragonI have to look what's in the header
19:12:25[IDC]Dragonperhaps I should pass a .bin, no .ucl
19:15:40amiconnHmm. I think .ucl is necessary for the compressed images. Usually the first image is compressed. You could actually use this to distinguish: Use .ucl for handing over compressed images, and .bin for uncompressed.
19:16:13amiconnBtw: What is stored in the 16 bytes at the beginning of the first flash sector before the actual image starts?
19:16:50[IDC]Dragona little header
19:17:24[IDC]Dragontells the size, destination address, entry point, plus a compressed/uncompressed flag
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19:20:58[IDC]DragonHi Christi!
19:21:14CassandraHeya
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19:25:38quelsarukhi Cassandra
19:25:38amiconnhi Christi
19:25:49*amiconn is away now
19:25:52*[IDC]Dragon leaves for hom
19:25:57amiconn:)
19:25:58[IDC]Dragonhome
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19:27:14CassandraWoo! Flashable players. Nice one, Amiconn.
19:33:33CassandraIf I still had my player, I'd give it a go (but I swapped it for my FM)
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20:01:31Cassandrarehi, ami.
20:01:45CassandraCongrats on getting the flashable players done.
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20:14:23quelsarukcu l8r!
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20:24:51Josh_FileOnly 6 more days untill I get my Recorder 15
20:24:53Josh_FileYay
20:25:50Josh_FileNobody likes me, everyone left me, thier all out without me having fun..........
20:27:13*Josh_File runs around screaming
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20:28:46*Josh_File runs around screaming
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20:31:12*Josh_File runs around throwing big bags of money at people
20:31:38Josh_FileI need attention :(
20:32:30Josh_FileI know your there,I can see your usernames!
20:33:25Josh_FileFJBHEFJUHGWQRT#Y&RTTA^@$E^%!#TEG
20:33:44*Josh_File slaps adi|home around a bit with a large trout
20:33:46*Josh_File slaps amiconn around a bit with a large trout
20:33:47DBUGEnqueued KICK Josh_File
20:33:47*Josh_File slaps Bagder_ around a bit with a large trout
20:35:28Josh_FileABNHH!H@ *#@!$T^@$^@^%&!@&*($^#^%%^@!$^GYFG@$^!@$
20:36:16CtcpIgnored 20 channel CTCP requests in 39 seconds at the last flood
20:36:16*Josh_File Curls up in a Ball
20:50:31Josh_FileYRY@Y$Y@#$^^%T@$#TGBHNEDMAWFOP
20:50:33Josh_FileTALWKKESGLYRK
20:50:34Josh_FileQWEJ
20:50:44Josh_File:(
20:51:18Josh_FileWaaaaa
20:54:36pikeare you retarded Josh_File ?
20:57:41Josh_FileNo
20:57:44Josh_FileJust bored
20:58:12Josh_FileSorry for slapping you with a Trout
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21:00:49Josh_File!U#&$^@!$^T^@$GBHBF
21:00:55*Josh_File slaps pike around a bit with a large trout
21:00:58*Josh_File slaps pike around a bit with a large trout
21:00:59*Josh_File slaps pike around a bit with a large trout
21:01:01*Josh_File slaps pike around a bit with a large trout
21:01:02***Alert Mode level 1
21:01:02*Josh_File slaps pike around a bit with a large trout
21:01:04***Alert Mode level 2
21:01:04*Josh_File slaps pike around a bit with a large trout
21:01:06***Alert Mode level 3
21:01:06*Josh_File slaps pike around a bit with a large trout
21:01:08***Alert Mode level 4
21:01:08*Josh_File slaps pike around a bit with a large trout
21:01:08pikeyou're behaviour would indicate otherwise. Spam away, without me, ps hope you know what a moron you'll look like in the logs that pusblished on the site
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21:02:34Josh_FileYep I'll look like on hell of a moron on the IRC logs
21:02:45Josh_FileWon't I logbot?
21:05:38Josh_FileWhat does "Alert Mode 1-4" Mean?
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21:10:06amiconn(back)
21:10:15amiconnBah, I hate flakey dsl
21:11:09***Alert Mode OFF
21:11:44Josh_FileWhat speed?
21:12:08amiconn1024/128
21:12:45Josh_FileMines advertized 2000/192, but I only get 500/256
21:12:50amiconnBtw, alert mode means that if logbot were opped, you would be kicked
21:13:37Josh_FileAll that Random stuff was my friend
21:14:53Josh_Filehttp://www.quiet-lies.com/pictures/funny2.gif
21:14:55Josh_FileHeh
21:16:27Josh_FileW00t no more tax in Canada on MP3 players
21:16:32Josh_Filehttp://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/12/17/1323245&from=rss
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22:12:59Domonokyhei.. thanxs for rombox on the player :-)
22:14:36Domonokyi just flashed my studio20... great work :-)
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23:20:56[IDC]Dragonamiconn: my Ondio is glowing blue!
23:21:31midkomgwtf!
23:22:31amiconn[IDC]Dragon: Nice! Did you already take a photo?
23:22:53[IDC]Dragonof the circuitry, yes
23:23:09[IDC]Dragonhave to clip and publish it
23:23:45[IDC]DragonI still need to wire the foil, so far I was just holding it to the contacts
23:24:01amiconnBzzzzt
23:24:29[IDC]DragonI was careful
23:24:47amiconnI wonder if this will cause interference while playback
23:25:09[IDC]DragonI did't notice any, with a quick test
23:25:26[IDC]Dragonit probably will for recordings
23:25:38[IDC]Dragonthe inverter is audible
23:26:11[IDC]Dragonbut I don't have the perfectly matching inductor
23:26:28amiconnI quickly tried recording from the builtin mic on the FM. There is a slight hissing noise if sensitivity is set to maximum.
23:29:39amiconnThe colour of the upper part is also something between blue and violet, like my Ondio SP. It seems that your photo comes out more bluish, and my scan more violet. I believe our two Ondios do in fact have the same colour
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23:32:55[IDC]Dragonyes, your scan looks closer to the real color than my adjusted photo
23:33:10[IDC]Dragonyou could scan the FM now
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23:45:25amiconnGrr, I hate that
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