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#rockbox log for 2005-03-26

00:00:00HCli play zelda and ddr?
00:00:02HCland sonic
00:00:18HCland outrun and..
00:00:21HClpacman
00:00:24HCland..
00:00:46HClmario party when i'm with multiple people
00:00:58HCli tend to be bored with games quickly.
00:01:01HCli play them for two weeks
00:01:03HClfinish them
00:01:05HClthen throw them away
00:01:23DJ_Dooms_DayBah, you sad child. Don't you have an uber enough comp to play things like farcry/HL2/D3?
00:01:33HCli own a modded xbox
00:01:40HCllimited edition crystal version :)
00:01:46HCli'm watching my anime on it
00:01:56DJ_Dooms_DayPsh, console boy
00:01:57HClstreaming divx off our network :)
00:02:01HCloh pff.
00:02:02DJ_Dooms_DayDo you even have a good comp?!
00:02:05HCli bought my xbox to hack into it.
00:02:09HCli have....
00:02:18HCla laptop, 2800 xp 256mb ram 40gb hdd...
00:02:27HClanother laptop, 1600 xp 512mb ram 40gb hdd
00:02:28DJ_Dooms_Daygfx card?
00:02:40HCla main computer... 1500 xp 1.5 gb of ram 170gb hdd
00:02:55HClgeforce 4 ti4200, but it malfunctions due to my mainboard, i hate my mainboard for that..
00:03:08HCland then i have a server thats 4 times p3 550mhz xeon processors
00:03:10HClwith 2gb of ram
00:03:18HCland a raid5 set of 4 8gb disks..
00:03:28HCland then i have an athlon 600 with 640mb ram and 10gb dusting away
00:03:30DJ_Dooms_Dayo_O
00:03:36DJ_Dooms_DayYeah ok! I get the point
00:03:41HCland then i have an xbox with a 250gb hdd thats completely modded out
00:03:56HCland then i have about two p70/90's...
00:03:57DJ_Dooms_DayDo you like RPG games?
00:04:06HClyea, but there are hardly any good ones.
00:04:13HClthe only good rpg i know is uo but its out of date nowadays
00:04:19DJ_Dooms_DayThen you shall play SS2
00:04:28HClwhat system?
00:04:33DJ_Dooms_DayPC
00:04:36HClbah.
00:04:42DJ_Dooms_DayIts fuckin old so it WILL work
00:04:45HClwhat specs?
00:04:52HCli liked kings quest 4
00:04:58HClor wait no,
00:04:59DJ_Dooms_DayHey, have you got your xbox to run on your monitor?
00:05:00HCli think it was 3..
00:05:11HClno, i prefer the tv since its loads bigger
00:05:29DJ_Dooms_DaySS2, its a futuristic FPS/RPG. Its like one of the best games ever made.
00:05:46DJ_Dooms_DayBut have you tryed it on your monitor?
00:05:51HClwhy would i?
00:05:56HCli've had it running on my monitor
00:05:59HClusing my tv card
00:06:49DJ_Dooms_DayI dunno, i've been planning to mod a PS2 INTO my PC, and i'd need to hook it up to my monitor, but i hear console games look pretty poo on monitors becase TVs have a sort of fake AA
00:07:18HClthey do. there's an xbox 2 vga converter though, that works fine.
00:07:23HClps2's suck >.o
00:08:06DJ_Dooms_Dayhow will a xbox 2 vga converter make things look better?
00:08:27HClbecause it works with a special bios that actually makes the xbox output an vga signal?
00:08:27wahatss2 = system shock 2?
00:08:37DJ_Dooms_Dayyep
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00:08:50wahatyah..das ist gutt
00:09:22wahati have a good idea for a ss3...
00:09:41DJ_Dooms_DayHCl, yeah i know, but the pixels on TVs have a sort of leaking effect, and it creates a fake anti-aliasing, the monitor would be a crap load sharper. Is it really that bad?
00:09:52DJ_Dooms_DayWe all do wahat heh
00:10:03HClis what really what bad?
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00:10:25DJ_Dooms_Dayplaying an xbox on a monitor, you said you've done it with your TV card
00:10:31HClsure.
00:10:35HClit looks fine on my tv card
00:10:36wahatthe hacker returns to earth and finds that shodan has taken over the entire planet...everyone worships her like a god, but unfortunately shodan has been infected with a nasty male a.i. virus and needs the hacker's help to get rid of it...
00:10:46HClbut its still on a low resolution because its plain pal
00:10:51HCli don't have a fancy hdtv card
00:11:16HClwhere with an x2vga adapter you can get 1990xsomething or so..
00:11:35DJ_Dooms_Daynice
00:12:02wahatanyone here do del. for the iriver h120 version of rb?
00:12:04HCli tend to not like "hacker" games much..
00:12:13HCldel.?
00:12:33wahatdevelopment
00:12:40HCloh.
00:12:42HClyes, definately.
00:12:46*HCl made rockboy..
00:12:47wahat:P
00:13:08*wahat wonders what rockboy is...and if nintendo should be worried..:-)
00:13:15DJ_Dooms_DayHCl, and yet you bourght your xbox to HACK it :P
00:13:19HClhttp://titania.student.utwente.nl/rockbox/
00:13:30HClDJ_Dooms_Day: yes, i said "hacker" as in. fake hacking.
00:13:43DJ_Dooms_DayYou don't actually have to hack
00:13:45HClever seen "the net" ?
00:14:05DJ_Dooms_DayThe game is so awesome because of the many ways you can do something
00:14:20HCli'll keep it in mind
00:14:26HClbut i tend to play games on my xbox
00:14:37HCli bought my xbox for snes, sega, gameboy games and divx video
00:14:53HCland i must say, i'm really happy with it
00:15:24wahati need to buy and xbox before microsoft does something to it to make it unmoddable...
00:15:29HCltoo late.
00:15:38HClthe newer 1.6 xbox version is already severely limited
00:15:42HCldoesn't have a reflashable bios anymore
00:15:46HClnor room for a memory upgrade
00:15:50HClnor will it run a debug bios
00:15:59wahatdamn...i knew it...
00:16:00DJ_Dooms_Dayjust buy an old xbox
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00:16:52wahatyah....how can you differentiate between the different versions? i know i can always find an older model at the local pawnshop or a videogame store
00:17:04HClwww.xbox-scene.com, i think
00:17:06HClor .org
00:17:10wahatserial number?
00:17:10HCli own hcl.xbox-scene.org
00:17:11HClheh.
00:17:15HClor .com
00:17:35*HCl developed a bit for xbox, got people offering him his own subdomain site..
00:17:43HClanyway
00:17:43wahatokay, that link you gave me finally loaded up...the pokemon pic...that's gotta be fake..:)
00:17:44HCls
00:17:48HClits not :P
00:17:53*HCl grins.
00:18:03wahati'd have to see some video...
00:18:09HCloh for crying out loud :/
00:18:13wahathaha
00:18:15*HCl sighs.
00:18:19HClmy cam can do video
00:18:22HClbut its batteries are awful
00:18:30HCland i don't know how to get it to do video either..
00:18:38HClyou can just try it yourself..
00:18:49HClif you want, i can give you an ihp_120.hex to flash
00:19:03HClgrayrockbox.zip on my ftp already has rockbox compiled for grayscale mode, should work
00:19:26DJ_Dooms_Daygrayscale is all screwed up though
00:19:31HClhow so?
00:19:43HClseemed to work great for rockboy
00:19:50HClaside from it having some slight palette problems
00:19:51DJ_Dooms_Dayoh wait, nm, its the simulater thats fucked
00:20:09wahati have a h320...didn't own a h120 for long...it was cool while i had it, but i don't think i could go back to monochrome :)
00:20:11DJ_Dooms_DayWhen is someone gonna fix the sim you use grayscale?
00:20:26DJ_Dooms_Dayyou=to
00:20:26HClthey grayscale patch isn't in cvs
00:20:42DJ_Dooms_Dayi have the grayscale patch
00:21:04HClyes, but its incomplete
00:21:17DJ_Dooms_Dayyes, it still works though
00:21:22DJ_Dooms_Dayapparently
00:21:30HClmarkun still needs to implement some remaining functions
00:21:35DJ_Dooms_Daybut the simulator can't do grayscale yet apparently
00:25:30HClgee bleach progresses slowly...
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00:25:52 Part amiconn
00:25:58DJ_Dooms_Daythats because its shit
00:27:33HClits pretty ok so far
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00:36:39HClits xshock!
00:36:45HClwhat news from your side of the world?
00:37:09XShocKi wrote a link to what i did.. yesterday i think.
00:38:07XShocKreset.hotbox.ru/rockbox_rockboy_crapysound.zip
00:38:12XShocKhttp://...
00:38:29HClany improvements..? haven't had time to test it yet..
00:39:21XShocKit sounds better, but... can somebody look at it? to rbsound.c since i couldn't find my mistake.
00:39:31wahatdo all rb devs have h100s or do any of them have h300s yet? wondering if it would be possible for development to start on the h300 concurrently...
00:39:36HCli can take a look at it..
00:39:51HClwahat: we can't start development on h300 yet since we don't have an h300
00:39:52HClalso
00:39:59HCli don't think anyone wants to start working on h300
00:40:02HClbefore h100 is finished
00:40:05HClor at least working well
00:41:00XShocKi will look news about Kyrgyzstan...
00:41:06XShocKit is hell in there... :(
00:44:51wahatHCI: Ack! Who decides when its working well? Is there a main devhead or are things pretty much a group effort ala the linux community?
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01:13:09HClgroup.
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01:17:24t0mashi
01:22:28DJ_Dooms_DayHeya
01:26:11t0masah
01:26:16t0masmorning again overthere?
01:26:33*t0mas has been installing debian the whole day :X
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01:28:19DJ_Dooms_Daylol
01:28:46t0masdid 3 servers... all working now :D
01:29:03t0masbut remind me never to do it for someone with a compaq...
01:30:41lImbusHCl, I think a few people already have a h300.
01:31:12lImbusthere's a lot of hardwareinfo on the wiki
01:32:12DJ_Dooms_Dayhaha, compaqs, evil things
01:33:08t0masyeah...
01:33:18t0masI had the most evil one around today :P
01:33:31t0masthe proliant edition... not even booting from IDE :X
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02:05:55HCllImbus_: no one with a bdm
02:06:28*HCl listens to one of many best songs ever made
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02:15:02t0mas2:17 here :X
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02:45:10XShocKah.....
02:49:29XShocKcan somebody record how gameboy should sound like?
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02:52:39XShocKok. i found out
02:53:07ashridahhm. wouldn't gnuboy on a pc be close enough?
02:53:29XShocKyep.. you are right..
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02:55:28stevenmBllllaaaaarrrggghhh!! Gravis!!
02:55:52stevenmIs there anyone on right now who knows anything about the friggin gravis patch magic envelope bytes?
02:56:13XShocKftp://raurin.no-ip.com/rockbox.zip
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03:00:55IRCMonkey_hhmmmm
03:01:18XShocKshould sound with timeouts...
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03:02:17stevenmWoah, got envelopes working for all decaying patches....
03:02:23stevenm.. but killed everything else in the process.
03:02:50IRCMonkeyhhhhmmmm
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03:03:16stevenmthere's a bit shift here. and I am missing it.
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05:32:01XShocKooooh my frag.... points me why doesn't this work right?..
05:32:01XShocK switch(frequency)
05:32:02XShocK {
05:32:02DBUGEnqueued KICK XShocK
05:32:02XShocK case 11025:
05:32:02XShocK pcm_freq = 0x2;
05:32:02***Alert Mode level 1
05:32:02XShocK break;
05:32:04XShocK case 22050:
05:32:06XShocK pcm_freq = 0x4;
05:32:08XShocK break;
05:32:10XShocK case 44100:
05:32:12XShocK pcm_freq = 0x6;
05:32:14XShocK break;
05:32:16XShocK default:
05:32:18XShocK pcm_freq = 0x6;
05:32:20XShocK }
05:32:50XShocKwhy why why... is it the "feature" of GCC or what?
05:33:00XShocKit always sets it to 0x6
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05:35:37zei dunno, i'd try default: fprintf(stderr,"%i\n",frequency);
05:35:42zeor something to see
05:35:45Ricker
05:35:52Rickyeah
05:35:52Rick;p
05:40:11XShocKi suspect it is a "feature" of gcc or C in general... but i don't see a reason why it is happening.
05:42:03***Alert Mode OFF
05:46:28zeso its shown you that you're actually getting one of those values?
05:47:27Rickthat statement looks fine to me
05:47:35RickI suspect you're doing something wrong ;P
05:47:49XShocKthen i have something hidden else where...
05:48:02Rickwell
05:48:05Rickdid you try what ze said?
05:48:07Rickwhat value do you get
05:48:39XShocKwill try showing it now....
05:59:44XShocKi need to go to sleep... can someone explain me why
05:59:44XShocK char buffer[50];
05:59:44XShocK snprintf(buffer,10,"%d and %d",frequency,pcm_freq);
05:59:44XShocK lcd_puts(0,0,buffer);
05:59:44XShocK sleep(HZ);
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06:00:11XShocKgives me 8380924682
06:01:45zeheh
06:01:58XShocK838092482 actually
06:02:03zei dunno
06:02:06zemaybe pointer madness?
06:02:22XShocKyes.. it is pointer ... :(
06:02:34zeare you dereferencing where you need to and whatall?
06:02:35XShocKargh....
06:02:53XShocKaaahhh
06:03:09zeyeah i'm horrible with pointers... they never seem to work for me how everything says they should, i just gotta screw around with crap till it works
06:03:12zeheh
06:03:13XShocKsnprintf(buffer,10 ... 10 where it should be size .. 50
06:03:17XShocKmaybe it is here...
06:03:48zemeh as long as it's null-terminated, i don't see the problem
06:03:59zei dunno if snprintf automatically null-terminates or not, i might expect it to
06:04:14zethen i dunno if lcd_puts respects null-terminations either though
06:04:19XShocKit should... i also do not see anything that could do such thing...
06:05:47XShocKok... found out...
06:06:41XShocK838092482 is freqency, and 6 is pcm_freq
06:07:22XShocKbut this does not give any clue how pcm_set_frequency(11025); statement could give a pointer in parameter.. 11025 is frequency argument
06:07:42XShocKvoid pcm_set_frequency(unsigned int frequency)
06:07:42XShocK{
06:07:42XShocK switch(frequency)
06:08:15XShocKand it is called from plugin..
06:09:54XShocKok will not bother anyone anymore.. it is surely my mistake somewhere...
06:16:02XShocKHCl: btw, sound it gnuboy is very crappy in original SDL win32 version.
06:17:08XShocKHCl: and it also this is a very bad idea to let it wait until everything is played as it is written in HACKING file. am i not right that it will do gaps.
06:17:23XShocKwait in pcm_submit
06:21:29XShocKi found out why it printed pointer , and not a number.. because in plugin.c the function was listed in differen order, i didn't know that order should be same.
06:21:54XShocKor maybe there again something that i don't see well
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06:27:35RickI suggest splash
06:27:56Ricklcd_splash(HZ * 3, false, "%d and %d", frequency, pcm_freq);
06:28:28XShocKi figured it out
06:28:32Rickcool
06:28:59XShocKi messed the order of function declaration in plugin.c
06:29:10Rickhehe
06:29:10XShocKi was calling it from plugin
06:29:36Rickand you didn't copy over new rockbox image?
06:30:58XShocKno. in plugin.h i wrote void (*method1)(..); void (*method2)(..); and in plugin.c i wrote method2,method1
06:31:03XShocKchanged its order..
06:31:05Rickooooh
06:31:05Rickhehe
06:31:28XShocKdidn't realize it matters
06:31:52Rickit does ;)
06:32:01Rickit's how the funcs get passed over to the plugin
06:32:49Rickwell, rather, how the struct gets created
06:33:07XShocKeveryday learn something... :)
06:33:24Rickhehe
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09:37:02Opethhi
09:37:50Opethcan i use rockbox on Archos Jukebox multimedia 20gb?
09:38:15stevenmhmm
09:38:42stevenmMultimedia, you say?
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09:39:36stevenmYou mean, this thing? http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00008PULR.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
09:39:40Opethoups
09:39:42Opethsorry
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09:39:56stevenmsok
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09:40:47stevenmthere you are. I do not think rockbox supports that. It is the one with the color screen, right ?
09:40:59Opethyeah i think so
09:41:17Opethi can choose between 3 colors
09:41:21Opethehhr
09:41:23Opethi mean yeah
09:41:31Opethi can look at photos
09:41:35stevenmnaw, I dont think it's supported
09:41:44Opeth=(
09:42:13Opethi think its pretty neat but with a lousy os
09:42:22stevenmAh. Do you have one ?
09:42:25Opethwould be cool with rockbox
09:42:28Opethyeah
09:42:31stevenmoh
09:42:50stevenmthese guys may get around to it.. but right now the main focus seems to be in the iRiver port
09:43:11Opethyeah i guess so
09:43:14stevenmwriting or porting software codecs, etc
09:43:36Opethbut will they get around to fix that? i mean.. my product is so old
09:44:04stevenmyou mean, archos gives you a firmware upgrade ?
09:44:14Opethno
09:44:18Opethrockbox
09:44:26stevenmoh
09:44:47stevenmSee.. it may look like other Archos devices but inside it is probably very different
09:45:06stevenmIe, the Jukebox ones.. they have a 12Mhz CPU and a hardware MP3 decoder.
09:45:26stevenmThis thing, though, looks like it has everything in software, backed by a more powerful processor
09:45:30Opethmine have thoose to i think
09:45:52stevenmSo it would probably be a matter of writing a port instead of "correcting" something in existing code
09:46:14stevenmBut I am unfortunately not an expert on this hardware, so I cannot say much. I mainly do software
09:46:23Opethok.
09:47:19Opethhttp://www.archos.com/products/prw_500346.html
09:47:24Opeththats what i have
09:47:27stevenmbut if it indeed does a lot of things in software, then it may be possible to write support for it once we have a codec API and other codec stuff working
09:47:41Opethok
09:49:10Opethstevenm
09:49:22Opethdoes that thing work with rockbox?
09:49:30stevenmi mean, codec stuff is primarily for the iriver port, but it is supposed to be platform-independent, so it works with the ondio port, etc
09:49:39stevenmI highly doubt it
09:50:19Opethk
09:50:22stevenmsorry
09:50:38OpethWell thanks anyway =)
09:50:42stevenmno problem
09:51:10stevenmcurrent rockbox software supports very specific things, very specific hardware. it's not going to know how to run the DSP in that thing
09:51:26stevenmor where to find it, for that matter
09:51:37amiconnhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NonArchos
09:51:38Opethk
09:51:39stevenmyou may want to ask about possible future support in the forums
09:51:39RickOpeth: but don't worry. at least know that it's possible and probably will eventually make its way onto it
09:52:23Rickjust a matter of time
09:52:23Rick;P
09:52:27OpethRick: you mean that u guys will make a software for my thingy ?
09:52:30OpethSnajs =)
09:56:55Opethguys
09:57:03stevenmyes?
09:57:07OpethDo u know if this will work then? http://linav.free.fr/
09:57:29Opeth dont understand all that linux binary talk ;)
09:58:07stevenmOoo, Linux on an Archos device. that sounds sweep
09:58:26Opethehe yeah
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09:58:51stevenmbut if you do not feel like dabbling with Linux, maybe you should stick with the stock firmware for now.. hopefully there will be rockbox support in the future
09:58:56Opethbut is it compatible? That is the question. Am i right?
09:59:13Opethi like to use linux
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09:59:33Opethbut i dont understand all that other talk
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10:00:24Opethi cant find a list of compatible devices
10:00:33Opeththat i would understand ;)
10:00:59stevenmThey say it's for the Av3xx... but maybe you should ask them
10:01:17stevenmDoesn't look like they say it's for the Multimedia series.. but it could be
10:02:01Opethok.
10:02:12Opeththanks.
10:02:13Opeth=)
10:02:27Opethsee u guys later perhaps
10:02:30Opeththanks
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10:03:54stevenmwoah, sleep time. good night guys
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12:38:11*HCl yawns
12:38:30t0maslol, you alway's do :P
12:38:42HCli don't sleep well :/
12:38:53*t0mas just got out of bed...
12:38:58t0mas(12:41 here)
12:39:22HClsame.
12:39:42t0masgot in at 4:30...
12:40:06HCli got in at 3, but my cat woke me up at around 6-ish once..
12:40:21HClhe's not allowed to go outside my room cause he has a torn ankle muscle...
12:40:22t0masand forgot to turn my iRiver off... listening radio... and this morning it was still at 50% batt :)
12:40:40HCli did that once too
12:40:54t0masit started at 75%
12:41:06t0masradio really works long...
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14:54:19HClhmm
14:54:22HCli want poker on rockbox
14:54:38HClsomething a little bit harder than patience, heh
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15:02:15asdsd1010,15hey hcl
15:02:23asdsd1010,15how many decoders does the iriver has?
15:02:34***Alert Mode level 1
15:02:34asdsd1010,15will it be physically be able to crossfade?
15:03:15crwlARFGH
15:04:08HClew, no colors please
15:04:22HClwe have as many decoders as the ones we try and get to work
15:04:28HCland linus said we'll probably be able to crossfade
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15:05:10asdsd1010,15yay
15:06:03crwlhorrible
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15:14:49rasher07,09BOO!
15:14:52rasheroh ah
15:15:05rasherlooks like cgi:irc doesn't swing that way
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15:17:04amiconnHCl: Is there no poker for gameboy?
15:18:10rasherHaha, I see it now: "I want an X plugin" - "Just run Y gameboy rom"
15:18:27amiconn;)
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16:14:46HClxD
16:15:49rasherhacking on anything HCl?
16:15:53HClnope.
16:15:59HCli got a cat in my lap
16:16:01HCland i should be studying...
16:16:06HCland i need to study.
16:16:08HCland i'm hungry :/
16:16:14rasherheh
16:16:15HClso no time for rockbox whatsoever
16:16:38rasherfair enough
16:18:03rasherHeh, England - Northern Ireland seems like a rather dull game (football)
16:18:19rasherone-sided at least
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16:27:25HClhm. woot.
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16:27:32*HCl just found out he has a week of vacation in two wees
16:27:34HClweeks
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16:28:32Elrondo<−− 5 days from today
16:33:32asdsd1010,15thats great hcl so some major developments coming out during ur vacation?
16:33:41asdsd1010,15or do u expect to actually take a 'vacation'?
16:33:49HCleh heh.
16:33:54HClthats completely up to me.
16:34:00HCli might very well spend it watching anime
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16:34:24asdsd1010,15yup
16:34:33***Alert Mode level 2
16:34:33asdsd1010,15its totally upto you, which is why im asking you
16:34:57HCli honestly have no idea what i'll do in two weeks time.
16:35:18***Alert Mode level 3
16:35:18asdsd1010,15you could travel the world
16:35:33HClif you provide me the money for it >.o
16:37:04***Alert Mode level 4
16:37:04asdsd1010,15you could deduct it from the hefty Rockbox OpenSource funds
16:37:43crwlcouldn't you fix your colors?
16:40:06***Alert Mode level 5
16:40:06asdsd1010,15you could go to korea
16:40:09***Alert Mode level 6
16:40:09asdsd1010,15and steal the iriver blueprints
16:40:11***Alert Mode level 7
16:40:11asdsd1010,15hehehe
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17:01:32Suckacan you do channel mode +c on this network :/
17:21:48t0masyeah, but you have to be op ;)
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19:12:38t0mashm...
19:12:50t0masI can just copy a daily build zip to iRiver right?
19:12:56t0masunzip it in \
19:13:03t0masand load the bootloader?
19:13:25rasherIf you have the bootloader installed, yup
19:13:45t0mas(my build of bootloader.bin + 1.63EU gave an md5 listed in the docs)
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20:00:59TangHello :)
20:01:26t0mashi
20:02:34Tanghello Tomas
20:02:45Tangseems to be an IRC matter?
20:03:00t0maswhat?
20:04:01Tangread a notice from Lilo
20:04:19Tangissue with freenode?
20:04:36t0mashm... in some way freenode sucks...
20:04:54t0masthey keep on reorganizing servers... and things like that
20:05:37TangOkay doesn't seem to affect #Rbx
20:07:00t0masarg
20:07:35t0masyou can't combine the normal build with a .rock built on another release?
20:16:54HClit depends
20:16:59HClwhether they're compatible or not
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20:32:13t0mashmz...
20:32:22t0mashow do I install a cvs build on my player?
20:32:26t0masI did make...
20:32:34t0masbut there is no make install in the normal build...
20:32:36t0masonly in sim..
20:38:25*t0mas slapts $me
20:38:28t0mas-t
20:38:37t0masmake zip
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21:52:55stevenmNoone speaks..
21:53:07stevenmAnyone know when preglow will be back ?
21:55:41t0masno idea
21:55:47*t0mas is going to watch CSI :)
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22:23:21fgkfjgnesfsdgghi
22:23:36fgkfjgnesfsdgganyone help me with my iriver iHP-120
22:24:16fgkfjgnesfsdggno one talkng
22:25:55fgkfjgnesfsdgghow come no one is talking
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22:27:26*HCl yawns
22:28:53fgkfjgnesfsdggis there any firmware to play games on the iriver 120
22:29:22HClrockbox has an amount of games, including a gameboy emulator
22:30:04fgkfjgnesfsdgghow do i get it on my iriver
22:30:15HClread the wiki on the site
22:30:27fgkfjgnesfsdggwat is the site
22:30:34HClwww.rockbox.org
22:30:49fgkfjgnesfsdggis it easy to get on the iriver
22:31:22fgkfjgnesfsdggi am on the site
22:31:26fgkfjgnesfsdggwhere do i go now
22:31:28HClthat depends on your personal intelligence
22:31:33fgkfjgnesfsdggi went to wiki
22:31:37fgkfjgnesfsdggthen where do i go
22:31:43HClread IriverPort
22:31:56fgkfjgnesfsdggok
22:31:57fgkfjgnesfsdggthen
22:32:51fgkfjgnesfsdggthen wat do i go to
22:33:11HCljust read it.
22:33:18*HCl goes back to sleep
22:33:22fgkfjgnesfsdggi cant see anything about games
22:33:26fgkfjgnesfsdggplz help me out
22:33:32fgkfjgnesfsdggi want to get the emulator on my iriver
22:34:58fgkfjgnesfsdgganyone
22:35:17HCljust go here
22:35:18HClhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot
22:36:30fgkfjgnesfsdggok
22:36:34fgkfjgnesfsdggdoes that have games on it
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22:37:19fgkfjgnesfsdggi have downloaded the bootloader
22:37:22fgkfjgnesfsdggfile
22:37:26fgkfjgnesfsdggwat do i do now
22:38:02HClread the page.
22:38:05HClhello xshock.
22:38:08HClhow goes?
22:38:09XShocKhi
22:38:16HClXShocK: i agree that it shouldn't wait
22:38:38HClrather, i think that a better approach would be to use dma to play it, and if the function is called again *while its still playing*
22:38:41HCl*then* we wait.
22:39:06HClofcourse we'd have a slight problem due to the possibility of the sound buffer being written to while its still trying to play it back
22:39:14HClso we might need two buffers
22:39:19HCljust my ideas on it :3
22:39:42XShocKi do it like this: writing to a buffer, and when it is full then wait, when it become "less full" continue wroking
22:39:46fgkfjgnesfsdggis that all i need it the binloader
22:40:18HClmk...
22:40:22HClhow well does it work?
22:40:29HClfgkfjgnesfsdgg: you also need a daily build
22:40:50fgkfjgnesfsdggwhere do i get tat from
22:40:56fgkfjgnesfsdggthat from
22:41:04HClfgkfjgnesfsdgg: realize that the current rockbox state is *NOT* meant for end users
22:41:07fgkfjgnesfsdggxshock said u ha them on yout FTP
22:41:13XShocKi will give you builds if you want to test it.
22:41:25fgkfjgnesfsdggok
22:41:28fgkfjgnesfsdggdo they work
22:41:28HClyou can very well render your ihp120 useless
22:41:42fgkfjgnesfsdgghave they been tested already
22:41:50XShocKhcl: it was to you about builds
22:42:01HClXShocK: yea, please
22:42:10HCli need to go to sleep soon though
22:42:14fgkfjgnesfsdggcan i get the builds please
22:43:23fgkfjgnesfsdggall i want it to play mario on my iriver
22:45:04HClwell, there's still an ihp_120.hex on my ftp
22:45:13HClit has the right md5sum for the 1.63eu version
22:45:20HClyou could try it if you want, but at your own risk
22:45:27HClif it breaks your player, don't come crying to me..
22:45:36HClftp://titania.student.utwente.nl/ihp_120.hex
22:45:58XShocKHCl: ftp://raurin.no-ip.com/rock.zip
22:46:24HClok
22:46:32fgkfjgnesfsdggok
22:46:57XShocKthe problem is this.. i copied all the data coming from rockboy and saved in into file. 20 seconds of plat time gave me 10 seconds of music( i played it in PC).
22:47:01fgkfjgnesfsdggwat games r on it
22:47:17HCl*nods
22:47:22HClXShocK: so its pretty much too slow?
22:47:34HClrather than that it waits too long in code?
22:47:42XShocKi have no idea..
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22:47:46XShocKstart mario..
22:48:03XShocKyou will hear music 50% and silence 50%
22:48:08fgkfjgnesfsdggi have version 1.65eu
22:48:08HClmhm..
22:48:25HClthen you're gonna downgrade
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22:48:46XShocKwhen i set rockboy to 22050 and DAC to 11025 it sound more normal, but sound is not what it should be....
22:48:51fgkfjgnesfsdggis tehre not one for version 1.65
22:49:00HClXShocK: rockboy was natively 11025
22:49:04HClfgkfjgnesfsdgg: no.
22:49:16HClXShocK: so we should probably set rockboy to 11025 as well?
22:49:30HClmrf.. batteries empty.
22:49:32fgkfjgnesfsdggok downlaoded the files
22:49:38fgkfjgnesfsdggwat do i do now
22:49:39XShocKyes.. what i gave you is 11025
22:50:28fgkfjgnesfsdggi got the files from FTP wat do i do nnow
22:51:49fgkfjgnesfsdgganyone here
22:52:24*HCl charges said iriver
22:57:50HClhmmm.
22:58:00*HCl considers a port of that iriver database program creater
22:58:16HClso you can update the iriver firmware database from within rockbox
22:58:19HClwithout needing a pc
22:58:29fgkfjgnesfsdggok
22:58:35fgkfjgnesfsdggcopied the files over
22:58:40fgkfjgnesfsdgghow do i play the games
22:58:50*HCl sighs.
22:58:55HClread. the. documentation.
22:59:03fgkfjgnesfsdggwat document
22:59:09HClthe wiki.
22:59:14HClwe have that thing for a reason.
22:59:25HClso we don't have to explain everything to a random person when they ask.
22:59:29HClevery time
22:59:29fgkfjgnesfsdggcan u send me the link for it
22:59:51HClhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome
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23:00:12fgkfjgnesfsdggthen where
23:00:22fgkfjgnesfsdggwhere does it give information on the games
23:00:23HClsearch.
23:00:39HClwhats the point of documentation if we'd have to help people browse it?
23:00:45HClthe whole idea is that they can look up information on their own.
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23:01:32zesomebody should write some documentation on how to find and read the documentation
23:01:42HClthe wiki explains more than enough on how to install rockbox
23:02:29HClif you can't figure it out, then the current rockbox version is not for you anyways. since its pretty much developers only.
23:02:38*HCl goes to test xshocks version..
23:03:45HClXShocK: nice work
23:03:51HCli understand what you mean
23:04:18HClXShocK: if you write it to a file all after eachother, does it sound fluent or is it still choppy?
23:05:25XShocKfluent.. but twice as short
23:05:48XShocK20 seconds of play gives a 10 second file
23:05:52fgkfjgnesfsdggwhen will i come out for real
23:05:57fgkfjgnesfsdggwhen everything is working
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23:06:01fgkfjgnesfsdggwill iriver brig it out
23:06:29HClXShocK: ok
23:06:45HClXShocK: sounds as if we're waiting too long then, or the emulation is too slow to keep up and it outputs it in chunks
23:06:50fgkfjgnesfsdggwill iriver bring firmware patch out for games
23:06:55HClno.
23:07:01fgkfjgnesfsdgghow come
23:07:16HClbecause we're hobbyists, and don't work for iriver.
23:07:17XShocKwait i did something different this time too. it sounded better. :)
23:07:43fgkfjgnesfsdggwhy dont u sell your stuff to iriver
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23:07:56HClbecause its gpl.
23:08:02fgkfjgnesfsdgggpl ?
23:08:08HClthey wouldn't be able to use it without having to legally expose their entire sourcecode.
23:08:17fgkfjgnesfsdggk
23:08:30fgkfjgnesfsdggwat games r on the gb emulator
23:08:33fgkfjgnesfsdggonly mario
23:08:38HClgameboy games. duh.
23:08:47fgkfjgnesfsdgghow many
23:08:50XShocKany gameboy game
23:09:09fgkfjgnesfsdggkl
23:09:32fgkfjgnesfsdggdoes roxbox work well thne
23:09:45fgkfjgnesfsdggor can you still improve on it
23:09:47HClits under development.
23:09:54HClits always under development, heh.
23:10:18HClthe iriverport page on the wiki has all the info to its current status
23:10:39fgkfjgnesfsdggk
23:10:47fgkfjgnesfsdggwhen will it be complte
23:11:10HClwhen we stop having ideas on what we could add.
23:11:24HCland have all other ideas implemented properly
23:11:25fgkfjgnesfsdggok
23:11:43fgkfjgnesfsdggso there is no point installing this rockbox just now
23:11:56XShocKHCl: ftp://raurin.no-ip.com/rockboy.rock
23:11:58fgkfjgnesfsdggwhen will u have a version out for the 1.65 eu version
23:12:04HCl*shrugs* that differs from person to person
23:12:14HClwhen linus gets around to testing 1.65
23:12:19HClXShocK: k, lemme give it a spin
23:12:32fgkfjgnesfsdggwat is rockboy.rock
23:12:51XShocKit is for HCl
23:12:57XShocKit is a plugin for rockbox
23:12:58fgkfjgnesfsdggwat is it though
23:13:03fgkfjgnesfsdggwat does it do
23:13:17XShocKgameboy emulator
23:14:32fgkfjgnesfsdggok
23:14:42fgkfjgnesfsdggdoes it work ok
23:14:52fgkfjgnesfsdggdoes this rockbox change everything
23:14:58fgkfjgnesfsdggor does it just add a emulator
23:15:02fgkfjgnesfsdggdoes it change the menu
23:15:06fgkfjgnesfsdggfont
23:15:09fgkfjgnesfsdggand other stuff
23:15:18HClit changes everything, its an entirely new firmware.
23:15:26fgkfjgnesfsdggok
23:15:27HClbut you can still boot the iriver firmware.
23:15:39fgkfjgnesfsdggdo u haev any screenshots of it
23:15:50HClum. on the site.
23:18:54fgkfjgnesfsdggdo u
23:19:03fgkfjgnesfsdgghere abouts can u send me the link
23:19:03HCllook on the site.
23:19:18HClwww.google.com -> rockbox screenshots >.>
23:20:24fgkfjgnesfsdggok
23:21:32HClO.o
23:21:33HClhm.
23:21:42HCli managed to upload stuff to my iriver in usb mode
23:21:46HClwith rockbox not on usb mode
23:22:02HClit was frozen till i removed the plug though
23:22:17fgkfjgnesfsdggthe screen looks crap
23:22:20fgkfjgnesfsdggthe font
23:23:03HClXShocK: it does sound better
23:23:10HClXShocK: what did you change?
23:23:15HClthe font is adjustable
23:24:00fgkfjgnesfsdggit jsut looks crap on the screenshots
23:24:19fgkfjgnesfsdggi want to keep my irier settings but jsut with the emulator on it
23:24:25Camilohow would you improve it given the resolution fgkfjgnesfsdgg ?
23:24:49fgkfjgnesfsdggcause when i turn the iriver on it will say roxbox and i want it to say iriver
23:25:05HClfgkfjgnesfsdgg: you can't.
23:25:23fgkfjgnesfsdgghow come
23:25:28fgkfjgnesfsdggthat is crap
23:25:34HClbecause rockbox won't do that :)
23:26:01fgkfjgnesfsdggyou should do that
23:26:21fgkfjgnesfsdggcreate the gameby emulator without changing the irirver settings
23:26:31HClgo ahead :)
23:26:36fgkfjgnesfsdggyou must be able to do that
23:26:39HClno one's stopping you from trying.
23:26:42HCli'm not going to.
23:26:48fgkfjgnesfsdgghow come
23:27:02fgkfjgnesfsdggdo you not think it would be better to
23:27:07HClbecause i have no interest in it
23:27:08HClnope :)
23:27:13fgkfjgnesfsdggok
23:27:20fgkfjgnesfsdggwat iriver do you have
23:27:30HClihp 140
23:28:24fgkfjgnesfsdggand do u haev the emulator on yours
23:28:47HClofcourse.
23:28:51HCli *made* it.
23:29:00HClits only logical that the developer has a test version of it :P
23:29:01fgkfjgnesfsdggand does it work well
23:29:15fgkfjgnesfsdggor does it still need fixes to it
23:29:55HCli have a todo list on the pluginrockboy page.
23:30:12fgkfjgnesfsdggok
23:30:21fgkfjgnesfsdggwhen will you next version be out
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23:31:03HClthere is no "next version"
23:31:07HClits a work in progress.
23:31:19fgkfjgnesfsdggokok
23:31:25fgkfjgnesfsdggso will i just stay in touch
23:31:58HClmk
23:32:00*HCl goes to sleep
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23:47:42t0masnight HCl
23:54:17XShocKHCl, i think i have an idea why this is happening with sound... we just need to make the timer go faster twice. it will give a twice of performance too. but where is this timer? :)
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