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| 00:19:11 | muesli- | i remember there was a build in counter in rockbox. does it stop and save runtime when rbx shuts down? |
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| 03:53:36 | lamed | hey. that won't work right? | #define TOGGLE_CONTROL_PRE (BUTTON_SELECT) || (BUTTON_MODE) |
| 03:55:05 | lamed | it's not allowd to (or) buttons |BUTTON_SELECT) || (BUTTON_MODE)| right? |
| 03:56:23 | lamed | everyone away? |
| 03:57:57 | ashridah | it probably doesn't help that it's 3-4am in europe where many of the developers are. |
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| 03:59:00 | lamed | t's 4 a.m. over here too, i'm back from a comedy club :) |
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| 04:00:58 | lamed | anyways it seems strange, because i don't see the reason why it will make conflicts, but it does. |
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| 09:13:56 | amiconn | hi Lear |
| 09:14:08 | Lear | hi there... |
| 09:14:25 | Lear | Good news; I found out why large max files in dir values crashes the iRiver. |
| 09:14:36 | Lear | If it is a problem on archos, it is something else. |
| 09:16:19 | amiconn | I just wanted to ask you about that |
| 09:16:39 | amiconn | YOu know that I got no problems even with max files in dir set to 10000 |
| 09:17:12 | amiconn | It seems that there might be some interaction between max files in dir and max playlist size (??) |
| 09:19:36 | Maxime | we "should" have wich sort of problem with max files @ 10000? |
| 09:22:11 | Lear | Yes, there's an interaction, and there's also a size range where the problem is likely to occur... :) |
| 09:24:32 | Lear | The problem is that audio_init is called to early, _before_ the playlist and tree buffers have been allocated. If voice is activated, that might avoid the problem too. |
| 09:28:13 | Lear | maxime: the problem with "bad" max files values is crashes or odd behaviour, possibly only on the iriver. |
| 09:28:32 | amiconn | Hmm. I wonder why it got implemented that way. The comment at lines 310/311 in main.c clearly points out the possible problem |
| 09:28:56 | Maxime | ok |
| 09:29:11 | Maxime | 'should try to decrease max files values.. :x |
| 09:29:25 | amiconn | Hmm. |
| 09:30:27 | amiconn | "On software codec platforms we have to init audio before calling audio_set_buffer_margin()." |
| 09:30:33 | amiconn | Cross-dependency :( |
| 09:31:05 | Lear | yes, I'm trying to fix that... shouldn't be too hard, I hope. |
| 09:31:06 | amiconn | Maxime: That's always a good idea. Setting these values higher than necessary eats memory for no benefit |
| 09:31:50 | amiconn | I have max files in dir set to 500 (my largest dir has 400-something files), and max playlist size set to 3000 (2900-ish tracks on the player) |
| 09:32:46 | Maxime | max folder 1020files |
| 09:32:46 | Maxime | :x |
| 09:37:09 | Lear | ah, seems to work in the simulator now... |
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| 10:01:22 | Lear | okay, fix commited. |
| 10:28:53 | amiconn | Lear: If audio_init() would apply the settings, the extra call to sound_settings_apply() in main.c for swcodec platforms could go away as well |
| 10:30:23 | amiconn | (not sure whether this is possible though) |
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| 10:31:47 | Lear | audio_init only applies the "critical" settings, i.e., buffer margin and crossfade. I guess sound_settings_apply does other things... :) |
| 10:33:01 | Lear | Yes, sound_settings handles different things... |
| 10:36:32 | Lear | But it might be possible to move settings_apply()... |
| 10:44:52 | amiconn | Due to my recent experiments and experience with multiplication, I might be able to significatly speed up mandelbrot, and make it smaller at the same time |
| 10:45:07 | amiconn | Only sacrifice is a little bit of precision (3 bits) |
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| 11:08:30 | amiconn | Lear: Your change causes rockbox to hang at startup.... |
| 11:08:50 | Lear | Not here, it doesn't... |
| 11:09:17 | Lear | Any specific settings? Like voice or so? |
| 11:09:58 | amiconn | No voice, dircache enabled (iirc) |
| 11:10:04 | amiconn | Can't check... |
| 11:10:50 | amiconn | Stays at rockbox logo for infinite time... |
| 11:11:20 | Lear | Hm... Don't use dircache myself... |
| 11:13:33 | amiconn | 8-second poweroff works, but that's the only working thing atm... |
| 11:17:11 | Lear | Any idea on the size of the dircache? |
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| 11:22:11 | Lear | If I read the code correctly, the dircache code doesn't allocate stuff from audiobuf properly... |
| 11:22:37 | Lear | That could mean it was really using the mallocbuf before... |
| 11:24:15 | amiconn | Dircache calculates the needed size dynamically |
| 11:24:27 | amiconn | If unknown at boot, it performs a non-transparent update |
| 11:24:43 | amiconn | My cache size was 300-something KB |
| 11:25:01 | Lear | I know that, but 300 kB is less than the mallocbuf size, which is interesting... |
| 11:25:26 | Lear | It seems like in the case where the cache size is known, allocation from audiobuf isn't done properly. |
| 11:26:11 | Lear | Initial boot worked fine... |
| 11:27:29 | Lear | So did second boot, with background scanning... |
| 11:27:54 | amiconn | Strange... |
| 11:28:16 | amiconn | Unfortunately I gotta leave now. :/ Bbl. |
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| 12:53:42 | amiconn | Lear: Did you have an idea what's going on with the hang-on-boot? |
| 12:54:09 | amiconn | I need to revert your change locally in order to be able to boot again. Then I could send you my settings... |
| 12:55:24 | Lear | Nope, what I thought looked wrong as simply a misunderstanding from me... |
| 12:57:29 | Slasheri | amiconn: try adding logf traps to find the place where it hangs |
| 12:58:18 | Lear | He, did printfs in the simulator to find the buffer problem. Not fun... :/ |
| 12:58:47 | amiconn | I'm busy doing other things... :/ |
| 12:59:31 | Slasheri | I may have found it; filebuf is not initialized with NULL at start |
| 12:59:49 | Lear | It's static, isn't it? |
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| 13:00:00 | Slasheri | yep.. so it should be null? |
| 13:00:15 | Lear | Scratch that, it is null by default; only autos are random... |
| 13:00:21 | Slasheri | ah.. |
| 13:00:32 | amiconn | It's not in iram? |
| 13:00:37 | Slasheri | no |
| 13:01:18 | Slasheri | amiconn: anyway, playback.c line 144. You could try setting it null and testing again |
| 13:01:55 | Lear | Then why don't I have a problem with that? |
| 13:02:12 | Slasheri | maybe a different compiler or something.. works for me too |
| 13:02:34 | amiconn | gcc 3.4.4 / binutils 2.16 here |
| 13:02:40 | Lear | dito |
| 13:02:55 | Slasheri | same also |
| 13:03:35 | amiconn | Added the NULL init, still the same result |
| 13:03:40 | Slasheri | :/ |
| 13:04:03 | amiconn | The cache builds (judging from the disk activity), but the logo stays |
| 13:04:25 | Slasheri | weird.. do you have auto resume enabled? |
| 13:04:32 | amiconn | nope |
| 13:07:10 | Slasheri | and no voice files present? |
| 13:07:17 | amiconn | With Lear's changes reverted, box starts again |
| 13:07:27 | amiconn | Voice files are present (of course) |
| 13:07:30 | Slasheri | oh.. |
| 13:07:42 | Slasheri | there might be some dependency problem with the voice ui init then |
| 13:07:53 | amiconn | Voice menus aren't enabled in my current settings though |
| 13:08:45 | Slasheri | Lear: it hangs on voice_init |
| 13:09:10 | Slasheri | no voice codec thread has been created yet and there is while (!voice_codec_loaded) sleep(1) .. |
| 13:09:44 | amiconn | But why does it try that when voice UI is disabled? |
| 13:09:59 | Slasheri | it's disabled only when voice files are not present.. |
| 13:10:25 | amiconn | There's something totally off in the settings.... |
| 13:10:43 | amiconn | Write .cfg puts a line "off,weak,moderate,strong: 0" |
| 13:11:11 | * | amiconn checks |
| 13:12:14 | Slasheri | oh, there is a bug in the config structure.. one field missing |
| 13:12:28 | amiconn | It's not missing... it's shifted |
| 13:12:31 | amiconn | me fix |
| 13:12:31 | Slasheri | yes |
| 13:12:33 | Slasheri | good |
| 13:17:53 | Febs | Did you guys see my bug report from yesterday? |
| 13:18:15 | Febs | I recorded a 2.5 hour .wav file. Recording worked great, but seeking doesn't work properly in the resulting 1.5GB .wav file. |
| 13:19:41 | * | Febs loves having the ability to adjust input gain on-the-fly while recording. |
| 13:23:40 | Lear | slasheri: ah, and I thought it would be good to call set_crossfade _before_ starting the voice codec thread... :) |
| 13:24:34 | Slasheri | hehe :) |
| 13:24:49 | Lear | I'll move them then, even if I don't have a voice file to test with... |
| 13:26:06 | amiconn | There are plenty of voice files available for download... |
| 13:26:25 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VoiceFiles |
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| 13:33:05 | Lear | Okay, so I have a voice file - I think - but I don't hear anything, despite voice menus are enabled. So do I have the voice file? :) |
| 13:33:18 | Lear | Oh, sorry, wrong laguange. :) |
| 13:33:20 | Slasheri | no you dont |
| 13:33:22 | Slasheri | :D |
| 13:33:54 | Slasheri | and you need to reboot after installing the voice file |
| 13:34:16 | Lear | Yep, and it shure hangs, even after moving the set calls... :( |
| 13:34:30 | Slasheri | :/ but good you found it |
| 13:35:25 | Lear | Not the problem, no... |
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| 13:45:14 | preglow | Slasheri: you sure that's the cause of the pops? |
| 13:45:51 | Slasheri | preglow: at least i cannot hear pops after that fix.. at least i think the previous setting was wrong |
| 13:46:07 | Slasheri | but i can't be sure that was the cause for the pops but those seem to be gone |
| 13:46:13 | preglow | it doesn't really change the fact that when i wav write, i still get pops |
| 13:46:22 | Slasheri | ah :/ |
| 13:46:31 | preglow | but i'll check out your fix soon |
| 13:46:40 | preglow | need to water myself first |
| 13:46:47 | Slasheri | :) |
| 13:51:52 | amiconn | preglow: I'm checking out the idea to use the emac for mandelbrot |
| 13:52:33 | Lear | Yep, freeze at starting voice codec... Why isn't the thread ready then... |
| 13:53:12 | amiconn | ...using another concept for the fixed point math, which doesn't require 64*64->64bit and 32*32->32 bit multiplications, but only 32*32->64 bit and 16*16->32 bit |
| 13:53:48 | _FireFly_ | i can confirm the freeze in confjuction with high limits is gone :) |
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| 13:56:19 | Lear | But there's a voice-related problem now... :/ |
| 13:56:32 | muesli- | re |
| 13:56:36 | _FireFly_ | i can only hear a tick noise if i navigate in the menu or seek in a file |
| 13:57:13 | muesli- | i have that ticking ini irivers fw but nit with rbx |
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| 13:59:10 | Lear | Ah, settings.c calls talk_init too! |
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| 14:03:35 | Lear | He, voice for pre-amp isn't quite right... :) |
| 14:03:38 | muesli__ | how do i set up my iriver that the same directory is played continously? move to next folder: off and repeat: all ? |
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| 14:04:24 | amiconn | Wow... the emac thingy is really powerful :) |
| 14:06:11 | Lear | amiconn: voice problem fix committed. |
| 14:08:51 | BBub | hmm, a part of the clipper on my iriver-remote broke - any idea where to get a new one? |
| 14:10:25 | Febs | No. You might try posting on Mistic River to see if you can find someone who would sell you a broken remote so that you could use the clip. |
| 14:10:39 | BBub | that would be an idea |
| 14:10:47 | muesli__ | hum..could somebody give me an answer :-/ |
| 14:10:59 | BBub | cause a new remote is 44 euros on ebay ;( |
| 14:12:01 | Lear | muesli__: sounds right. |
| 14:12:21 | ashridah | muesli-: create a playlist out of the current directory (just pressing play on one of the files works, if it has no subdirs), then press play and don't have go to next directory on |
| 14:12:36 | muesli__ | okidok ;) |
| 14:13:39 | ashridah | muesli-: rockbox does have a manual you know :) |
| 14:13:45 | Febs | That reminds me of a suggestion that I wanted to make: would it make sense to have "move to next folder" automatically disable repeat? |
| 14:14:34 | muesli__ | ashridah there's nothin crueler than reading manuals ;) |
| 14:15:09 | muesli__ | and good systems neednt to be explained ;) |
| 14:16:03 | ashridah | bullcrap |
| 14:16:14 | Febs | Every system needs to be explained to some people. And even then, some don't get it. Example: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=30434 |
| 14:16:33 | ashridah | this whole intuitive trip that people go on with devices and technology needs to end. computers and most electronic devices are not, and will never be, simple |
| 14:17:20 | muesli__ | but this should be the aim..remind to setup those horrible video recording devices.. |
| 14:17:34 | ashridah | most attempts to make devices simple tend to make them harder to use, and what's more, slower to use |
| 14:18:10 | muesli__ | but it makes no sense when only geeks can cope with it |
| 14:18:37 | ashridah | i didn't say anything about making it complex. |
| 14:20:37 | muesli__ | but making it complex almost involves this |
| 14:21:22 | ashridah | you're confusing easy to use with intuitive |
| 14:21:39 | ashridah | intuitive implies that one doesn't need to read a manual. easy to use doesn't necessarily imply that |
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| 14:23:39 | muesli__ | well..i am lost, u won ;) |
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| 15:07:00 | muesli__ | ashridah still there? |
| 15:12:09 | muesli__ | what should i use for skip buffer? 10mins for benchmarking? |
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| 15:18:54 | amiconn | muesli__: The lowest possible, imho. Unfortunately H1x0 rockbox does no longer allow setting it to zero, like on archos |
| 15:19:52 | muesli__ | i really dont understand why the lowest is the best choice. doenst that mean less songs are being cached? |
| 15:20:13 | amiconn | No |
| 15:20:38 | amiconn | Rockbox always uses all free ram for buffering |
| 15:20:45 | muesli__ | so what does that switch do? |
| 15:21:07 | amiconn | Upping the anti-skip buffer setting actually causes rockbox to rebuffer earlier |
| 15:21:29 | muesli__ | ah ok..st it to 5s... |
| 15:21:33 | muesli__ | set |
| 15:22:34 | amiconn | This is so that if the box gets bumped heavily and the HD isn't able to read, rockbox has more time to get new data before the old data is used up |
| 15:22:34 | muesli__ | started 3pm...we'll see how efficient rbx is so far ;-) (although no real and clean comparism is possible) |
| 15:23:16 | amiconn | There already is a safety margin in the default buffer limits, so this setting doesn't make sense, imho |
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| 15:47:36 | muesli__ | err..does somebody why i cant submit a new thread in mr's rockbox lounge? |
| 15:47:41 | muesli__ | know |
| 15:53:02 | Slasheri | amiconn: i found it useful to put this setting to 1 or 2 minutes or there will be skipping when walking and rebuffering starts |
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| 15:53:55 | Slasheri | maybe my hdd is just going faulty because it's quite sensitive.. |
| 15:53:57 | amiconn | Hmm. Then either the buffer margin on H1x0 is too low, or the HD is really crap compared to the 2.5" HDs in the archoses |
| 15:54:24 | amiconn | I never got any skipping on archos even with anti-skip at zero, except when forcing it |
| 15:54:45 | amiconn | (constantly shaking the unit while it tries to rebuffer) |
| 15:54:51 | crwl | i haven't had my iriver ever skip |
| 15:54:56 | Slasheri | weird, i really don't even have to shake the unit (just light moving up-down) and the hdd is unable to read |
| 15:55:09 | Slasheri | *slight |
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| 16:05:16 | Marcus | why guys, we don't have the choice to set 0 with anti skip buffer? |
| 16:05:36 | Marcus | my HD is good and I never need it |
| 16:05:44 | Marcus | 5 sec is min |
| 16:07:27 | Marcus | Slasheri: ? |
| 16:10:24 | Marcus | anyone? |
| 16:11:51 | Marcus | I mean with irivers of course |
| 16:12:27 | Slasheri | Marcus: 0s means that rebuffering is going to start when _all_ buffered data is consumed |
| 16:12:36 | Slasheri | that is not enough to spin up the hdd |
| 16:13:08 | Slasheri | pcm buffer will run out of data before hdd spins up (unless a longer crossfade setting was activated) |
| 16:13:09 | Marcus | ok |
| 16:13:52 | Marcus | so 5sec is the minimum value? |
| 16:14:14 | Slasheri | it's not practical to set it anything lower |
| 16:14:41 | Marcus | oh I see |
| 16:14:43 | Slasheri | and i doubt you would save anything in battery life even if you put it to something like 1minute.. |
| 16:14:52 | Slasheri | (execpt playing wav files) |
| 16:15:15 | Marcus | ok |
| 16:17:16 | Slasheri | and really, the anti skip buffer setting means the buffer margin or watermark level when rebuffering starts.. "anti-skip buffer" might be misleading |
| 16:28:44 | Marcus | ciao all |
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| 17:05:49 | XavierGr | hi muesli how is the test going? |
| 17:06:26 | muesli- | current status on http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=5e78c78711e6c0a77bb7669d62941054&topic=1651.0 |
| 17:06:30 | muesli- | hi btw ;) |
| 17:09:14 | XavierGr | you used a remote on your tests? |
| 17:09:33 | amiconn | Slasheri: "0s means that rebuffering is going to start when _all_ buffered data is consumed"?? |
| 17:09:44 | amiconn | If it's implemented that way, it's clearly wrong |
| 17:10:09 | muesli- | XavierGr sure, love that babe |
| 17:10:26 | amiconn | The idea is that the rebuffering code keeps track of the disk spinup time, assuming a safe value if no measurement is available yet |
| 17:10:41 | amiconn | ...and then use that plus a default safety margin for rebuffering. |
| 17:11:13 | amiconn | The anti skip buffer setting is just an additional safety margin, so setting it to zero is possible |
| 17:12:04 | amiconn | This is the way it is implemented on archos, and described in the manual |
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| 18:09:24 | fubar | how may I get around this error when compiling? |
| 18:09:30 | fubar | MAKE in libmad |
| 18:09:31 | fubar | make[3]: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. |
| 18:09:31 | fubar | make[2]: *** [libmad] Error 2 |
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| 18:21:44 | _FireFly_ | fubar: do you use a bleeding edge source archive ?? |
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| 18:22:52 | _FireFly_ | if so then either use the daily-sources or get the sources through cvs because the bleeding-edge source archive has not all files included |
| 18:23:38 | _FireFly_ | there is a problem in generating this archive |
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| 18:48:09 | TiMiD | hi |
| 18:48:34 | DrMoos | Salut |
| 18:48:39 | TiMiD | mwarf :) |
| 18:48:52 | DrMoos | how goes? |
| 18:49:01 | TiMiD | busy very busy |
| 18:49:50 | TiMiD | (must find a training course) |
| 18:50:23 | TiMiD | stressing since I must have it in 1 month |
| 18:50:41 | DrMoos | "stage" you mean? |
| 18:51:52 | TiMiD | yep :) |
| 18:52:06 | TiMiD | if it was in france it would be easy |
| 18:52:16 | TiMiD | but I want to get one abroad |
| 18:52:40 | DrMoos | since when are you searching? |
| 18:52:47 | TiMiD | 2 weeks |
| 18:53:14 | TiMiD | japan : 2 companies for 7 students |
| 18:53:31 | TiMiD | USA : 5 companies for 38 students :/ |
| 18:54:02 | TiMiD | I try to find by myself ... |
| 18:54:18 | DrMoos | good luck |
| 18:54:35 | DrMoos | and your university don't help you to find? |
| 18:54:56 | TiMiD | yes |
| 18:55:08 | TiMiD | but they don't have a lot ... |
| 18:55:16 | DrMoos | ah :-( |
| 18:55:59 | TiMiD | (they have a lot in france, twice the number of students ^^ but abroad that "la deche" :P) |
| 18:56:09 | DrMoos | :D |
| 18:56:27 | DrMoos | "conjoncturel" thing |
| 18:56:29 | TiMiD | woow |
| 18:56:33 | TiMiD | >>>http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1650.0 |
| 18:56:40 | TiMiD | we have a winner \o_ |
| 18:57:14 | DrMoos | :) |
| 18:57:57 | TiMiD | well I wonder if any dev has looked at my remote patch :D |
| 18:58:06 | TiMiD | probably not yet :( |
| 18:58:11 | DrMoos | yes |
| 18:58:33 | DrMoos | but maybe Linus will, when'll find the time |
| 18:58:41 | TiMiD | hmm |
| 18:58:58 | TiMiD | I hope the CVS won't xhange a lot then because I don't have the time to update |
| 18:59:02 | XavierGr | I haven't SEEN Linus at all the last couple of days :( |
| 18:59:17 | TiMiD | ow |
| 18:59:17 | DrMoos | apear he is very usy too |
| 18:59:25 | DrMoos | *busy |
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| 19:00:27 | TiMiD | Linus is the only one to check user space patches ? |
| 19:00:37 | DrMoos | :D sure not |
| 19:01:05 | DrMoos | but he is surely the best for your patch ;-) |
| 19:01:45 | TiMiD | hmm |
| 19:01:52 | XavierGr | but in my case too (my radio and jpeg patches) only Linus said to check them |
| 19:01:55 | TiMiD | then I will update it for current CVS |
| 19:02:04 | TiMiD | mwarf |
| 19:02:10 | TiMiD | so poor :( |
| 19:02:14 | DrMoos | XavierGr: yes it will surely Linus too |
| 19:02:43 | TiMiD | they need more people to check the patches |
| 19:03:12 | DrMoos | TiMiD: why did'nt write a mail in the mailing list |
| 19:03:20 | DrMoos | mailing list dev now :) |
| 19:03:35 | DrMoos | you can be sure dev answer you |
| 19:03:41 | DrMoos | will |
| 19:03:58 | TiMiD | good idea :) |
| 19:04:05 | TiMiD | (I never read mailing lists) |
| 19:04:28 | TiMiD | but I don't want to become "Heavy" with this |
| 19:04:50 | DrMoos | the core dev read the mailing list |
| 19:05:41 | DrMoos | sure you can't becom heavy with this |
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| 19:06:05 | DrMoos | is it good works |
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| 19:07:02 | webguest75 | Is anyone here using trillian to connect to this IRC channel? |
| 19:07:17 | XavierGr | ME! |
| 19:07:25 | TiMiD | argh |
| 19:07:32 | XavierGr | I just did this yesterday |
| 19:07:45 | XavierGr | what? |
| 19:07:49 | webguest75 | how do you get it to work cos i'm having difficulties logging in |
| 19:08:25 | XavierGr | you want to loggin just to freenode or to auto join #rockbox? |
| 19:08:32 | TiMiD | why not Xchat ? |
| 19:08:40 | webguest75 | to auto join rockbox |
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| 19:12:21 | _FireFly_ | run xchat under windows ?? |
| 19:12:43 | _FireFly_ | ok i have found it :) |
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| 19:13:51 | XavierGr | sorry for that. |
| 19:14:02 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Philip_0729 |
| 19:14:02 | Philip_0729 | k well ive got it to join |
| 19:14:46 | Philip_0729 | but how to autojoin rockbox? |
| 19:15:01 | Moos | please don't use colors |
| 19:15:11 | ender` | look at the servers dialog |
| 19:15:19 | XavierGr | webguest75: go to manage connections and make a new irc connection, then choose a name for your connection. under that box typer irc.freenode.net:6667 |
| 19:15:20 | TiMiD | _FireFly_: xchat became shareware under windows (but you can still download non offical builds from source since it's GPL :P) |
| 19:15:59 | XavierGr | I don't use colors |
| 19:16:06 | XavierGr | am I? |
| 19:16:11 | ender` | not you |
| 19:16:16 | Philip_0729 | i was sorry |
| 19:16:34 | Philip_0729 | webguest is now me :) |
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| 19:21:39 | DrMoos | TiMiD: are you registrated at freenode? |
| 19:24:47 | TiMiD | maybe :) |
| 19:24:54 | _FireFly_ | *g* |
| 19:25:09 | TiMiD | is it needed ? |
| 19:25:10 | ender` | -NickServ- The nickname [TiMiD] is not registered |
| 19:25:20 | TiMiD | :) |
| 19:25:27 | TiMiD | I have to do it quickly :p |
| 19:25:28 | DrMoos | TiMiD: for receive private msg |
| 19:25:37 | _FireFly_ | not really |
| 19:25:41 | ender` | to send PMs |
| 19:26:02 | _FireFly_ | DrMoos: you can activate pms from non registered users |
| 19:26:12 | DrMoos | how? |
| 19:26:42 | ender` | /umode -something |
| 19:27:14 | TiMiD | done :) |
| 19:27:24 | TiMiD | well I have to eat |
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| 19:27:30 | TiMiD | @++ |
| 19:27:44 | DrMoos | a+, I eating too( Ramadan here) |
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| 19:38:43 | Philip_0729 | yey its working |
| 19:39:05 | muesli- | re |
| 19:39:43 | Philip_0729 | getting trillian to autoconnect to rockbox server.... |
| 19:39:58 | _FireFly_ | freenode-server :) |
| 19:40:19 | _FireFly_ | #rockbox is only a channel:) |
| 19:40:28 | Philip_0729 | meh |
| 19:41:02 | muesli- | Philip_0729 btw do you know how to establish a webcam chat when the other site is using msn but you dont have a webcam |
| 19:41:08 | Philip_0729 | any info regarding rb on H300? |
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| 19:42:16 | BBub | Philip_0729: nothing new according to the wiki |
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| 19:43:20 | Philip_0729 | the wait continues........... |
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| 20:08:37 | muesli__ | is recording by microphone already implemented? |
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| 20:18:27 | XavierGr | yes |
| 20:20:03 | muesli__ | i guess its the same thing as when i'd like to record radio? |
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| 20:38:12 | muesli__ | i've read somewhere that hdds built in an ipoo are some kind of branded and cant be used like normal hdd's. is there a way to scratch that stuff off (i.e. low level formating) ? |
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| 20:55:29 | thegeek | does voice work for iriver/rockbox 2.5 ? |
| 20:59:46 | XavierGr | yes |
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| 23:29:09 | ]RowaN[ | does the archos port of rockbox support replaygain? |
| 23:29:35 | ]RowaN[ | just been round at my neighbours house and noticed he has an archos.. and he has no idea what rockbox is, bless him hehe |
| 23:32:36 | DrMoos | it doesn't yet |
| 23:33:31 | preglow | it never will |
| 23:33:33 | preglow | at least not properly |
| 23:33:53 | DrMoos | let's hope in Magnus ;-) |
| 23:34:22 | amiconn | preglow: Why do you think so? |
| 23:34:34 | amiconn | It's certainly possible, only nobody cared so far... |
| 23:35:49 | DrMoos | maybe one day from Lear :) |
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| 23:43:16 | amiconn | In fact implementing replaygain should be fairly straightforward once the gain values are available |
| 23:43:29 | amiconn | It's not more than a volume correction |
| 23:44:10 | amiconn | ...and the gain values are already available, the code is even compiled in for archos (for no benefit atm) |
| 23:44:33 | preglow | amiconn: i didn't think you had volume control that fine grained |
| 23:44:41 | preglow | amiconn: but now that i think of it, you have full control over the volume... |
| 23:44:57 | amiconn | The volume control on archos is way more fine grained than on iriver |
| 23:47:00 | amiconn | Main volume on all newer units (MAS3587 and 3539) is controllable in 1 dB steps, and there is an additional linear prescaler |
| 23:47:42 | preglow | i thought you could specify the gain as a linear factor? |
| 23:47:57 | preglow | perhaps i'm thinking of the prescaler |
| 23:49:19 | amiconn | Yes, the prescaler is linear, 0x40 being 100% and ranging from 0 to 0x7f (almost 200%) |
| 23:49:41 | ]RowaN[ | you guys r so clever. i was myself with a rag on a stick |
| 23:50:05 | amiconn | The main volume is logarithmic, -114 dB to +12 dB in 1 dB steps |
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| 23:51:42 | amiconn | preglow: Ah, yes, and finally we could misuse the stereo matrix for scaling (20 bit signed fixed point) |
| 23:52:14 | amiconn | This would also work on the 3507 (archos player), which would otherwise only allow relaitevly coarse volume control (1.5 dB steps) |
| 23:53:23 | amiconn | What's the resolution of the replaygain values? |
| 23:58:39 | preglow | amiconn: that's exactly what i was thinking of, i remember reading the stereo mode code and noticing it's pretty good resolution |
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