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#rockbox log for 2005-12-11

00:00:08qweasddid u look at the .C files?
00:00:13_FireFly_San: then you are a lucky guy which understands such thinks very fast :)
00:00:15Sanyes, and looked at how the plugins did stuff, and related them to how the work on the H300
00:00:30qweasdand used no tutorial?
00:00:33qweasdu must b clever
00:00:34Sanno
00:00:34linuxstb_Cassandra: #2 - e.g. /dev/sda2 should be the FAT32 partition
00:01:00_FireFly_Cassandra: fdisk -l /dev/sda
00:01:03qweasdthanks 4 the help though
00:01:07Sanwell, i didn't write a plugin yet, i use parts of other plugins, and then pasted them all into one
00:01:21_FireFly_then you get all partitions and when set correctly the used fs
00:02:11 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=paulthen@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com)
00:02:45_FireFly_petur: have you tested the new cleaned patch??
00:03:02peturjust ran it here: I see no difference :(
00:03:52_FireFly_really no differences ??
00:04:29peturjust played a file and the icons are still flickering
00:04:34qweasdif i open the programs using a C programming tool (Dev-C++) and study the codes, find how the work, will that help?
00:04:47_FireFly_petur: a bit less then without it ??
00:04:53qweasdand what is the simpelest plugin?
00:05:11Cassandralinuxstb, Success!
00:05:18CassandraRockbox has booted.
00:05:23NightCatThere must be the plugin "hello world" but i don't know where :)
00:05:26peturno difference I'm affraid
00:05:37peturunless I'm doing something wrong
00:05:41linuxstb_Congratulations. Welcome to the iPod port.
00:05:49***Alert Mode OFF
00:05:52BagderNightCat: apps/plugins/helloworld.c
00:05:53_FireFly_petur: try a reboot
00:06:02CassandraCan I get it to boot the original firmware, or is it knackered.
00:06:17_FireFly_maybe you have updated the firmware-file while the dvice was running
00:06:24_FireFly_und forgotten to reload it
00:06:47peturI did let it reload (rolo) and also did a power down-up cycle
00:07:08linuxstb_Cassandra: It _should_ work if you hold down the menu button whilst booting
00:07:23peturbut the flickering may be due to the slow LCD code of the H3xx
00:07:45linuxstb_Cassandra: But the button driver in the bootloader isn't very reliable. preglow says it works about one time in 10 for him
00:08:12qweasdis there any way i can boot up the plugins i make, edit on my pc?
00:08:27CassandraOriginal firmware won't boot anyway.
00:08:28_FireFly_petur: could be that my fix doesn't get showd because the current lcd-code is to slow
00:08:44qweasdis there any way i can boot up the plugins i make, edit on my pc?
00:08:45_FireFly_too
00:08:54peturah well...
00:08:56NightCatqweasd: You need cigwin and other stuff...
00:08:59linuxstb_Cassandra: Maybe try going through the step of merging bootloader.bin and apple_os.bin again and write a new image to your boot partition
00:09:05CassandraNot a huge problem, since presumably I can do a total wipe if I need to return it.
00:09:10peturmust ask Linus where the problem lies
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00:09:35linuxstb_Cassandra: Yes, Apple has a "restore" utility on their website you can use to restore to the factory condition.
00:09:50Kyl3Is there a way to stretch out rockboy to fit the screen? I tried and it worked, but the game wouldny use the extra space.. and Firefly.. that H300 remote patch works great, except left and right go up and down
00:10:19_FireFly_Kyl3: which remote-patch do you mean ??
00:10:34 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox")
00:10:47Kyl3http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1367824 <−− that one firefly
00:11:21_FireFly_Kyl3: this isn't from me :)
00:11:24linuxstb_Cassandra: You've probably noticed there is no off switch on the ipod - it just sleeps and eventually powers down by itself.
00:11:29_FireFly_Bger is the author of it
00:11:38Kyl3oh.
00:11:44Kyl3.. lol sorry.
00:12:14linuxstb_Cassandra: If you want to make it sleep, you can enter "diagnostics mode" (hold rewind and play whilst booting) and select sleep from there (according to preglow, diagnostics mode doesn't work on my ipod)
00:12:30linuxstb_(sorry, rewind and select)
00:13:04San||Awayhow do I fix this?
00:13:05San||Away/***************************************************************************
00:13:05San||Away * __________ __ ___.
00:13:05DBUGEnqueued KICK San||Away
00:13:05San||Away * Open \______ \ ____ ____ | | _\_ |__ _______ ___
00:13:05San||Away * Source | _// _ \_/ ___\| |/ /| __ \ / _ \ \/ /
00:13:05***Alert Mode level 1
00:13:05San||Away * Jukebox | | ( <_> ) \___| < | \_\ ( <_> > < <
00:13:05 Quit San||Away (Excess Flood)
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00:13:19San||AwayDamn, sorry
00:13:21San||Awaysooo sorry
00:13:29San||Awaycopy didn't work in the program
00:13:31San||Awaysorry
00:13:50San||Awayin the cygwin, it dodn't copy
00:14:01San||Awayand pasted the thing I had before
00:14:08San||Awaysorry...
00:18:09 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving")
00:18:53qweasdis there any way i can boot up the plugins i make, edit on my pc?
00:19:06NightCatI already answered!
00:19:17San||Awaythe sim?
00:19:42qweasdsorry nightCat
00:19:50qweasdany way how do i use the sim
00:19:52qweasd?
00:20:33 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
00:20:41qweasdhow do i make sim
00:20:52NightCatYou need a cygwin anyway.
00:21:00qweasdyep i got that
00:21:00NightCatA moment.
00:21:15Cassandra[christi@slappy backup-ipod]$ ../tools/ipod_fw -g nano -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader.bin
00:21:15CassandraGenerating firmware image compatible with iPod mini, 4g and iPod photo...
00:21:16NightCatDid you build yor RB?
00:21:32CassandraIs it meant to do that? I notice it doesn't say Nano compatible.
00:22:30NightCatqweasd: Did you do this guide: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment
00:22:46 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
00:22:49qweasdyep
00:23:06***Alert Mode OFF
00:23:10qweasdive done that
00:23:12 Quit JazzBone ()
00:23:28NightCatAnd you get the latest source from cvs?
00:23:54peturdid you create a dir and do configure in it?
00:24:03linuxstb_Cassandra: Yes, that message is fine.
00:24:39NightCatqweasd: Where are u?
00:25:03CassandraStill won't load the original firmware. Weird.
00:25:07CassandraNever mind.
00:25:13peturlinuxstb: I created a patch for the lcd_update_rect() code from Kaggen. I see now difference with the old code.
00:25:23peturnow=no
00:25:37 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m196.net81-66-159.noos.fr)
00:25:54qweasdyea i got the latest source
00:26:09qweasdand create a dir and do configure in it
00:26:14g33is the optical out affected by volume?
00:26:20peturthen 'make'?
00:26:31linuxstb_Cassandra: Does it work if you restore the original bootloader partition?
00:26:45g33and if so, what volume should i leave it on for it to be "neutral"
00:27:33qweasdpetur, yea done the make thing
00:27:36qweasdand make zip
00:27:48San||Awayoh, yeah, in the next daily build, can you make it so that when you install a new dailybuild, it has the volume on 50? I almost blew my ears out last nite
00:27:48peturcreate an archos dir?
00:27:56NightCatThen try it on your DAP :)
00:28:13peturnot the sim!
00:28:20NightCatI mean your rockbox.zip file :)
00:28:35qweasdwhere do i create an archos dir?
00:28:42qweasdanywhere?
00:28:46peturfor the sim you need to make install
00:29:11peturbelow the dir where you build
00:29:42qweasdso i do the same as before, but instead of choosing build, i choose install?
00:29:49qweasdsorry i mean sim
00:30:06peturno, after you 'make' you 'make install'
00:30:28peturit copies the required files in the archos dir
00:30:38peturthen run the exe
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00:31:24qweasdinstead of make zip, make install?
00:31:41peturyes
00:32:01peturfor the sim, that is
00:32:09 Quit KN|stiff (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
00:32:11peturcd ..
00:32:18peturwrong window :)
00:32:28qweasdu know after u type in rbconf, do i still select normal mode, or simulator?
00:32:53peturyou want to build the sim?
00:32:59qweasdyea
00:33:16peturthen select sim of course
00:33:25qweasdlol stupid quesion
00:33:31qweasd*question
00:33:49peturdon't mix them in the same dir!
00:34:11qweasdthe normal and sim?
00:34:21qweasdive created 2 seprate folders for both em
00:34:30peturgood. got the exe?
00:34:48qweasdnot yet
00:34:53qweasdive just dont the rbconf
00:35:00qweasd*done
00:35:03qweasdand done make
00:35:13qweasdjust waiting for that to finish
00:35:47 Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.5/undefined]")
00:42:16Cassandralinuxstb, yes, it does.
00:42:34Cassandralinuxstb, bug in ipod_fw?
00:42:48qweasdpetur, thats finished
00:42:53qweasdso now i type in make install?
00:43:00peturyes
00:43:30qweasdok i got rockboxui.exe
00:44:00qweasdand it sed "no wps modulepresent, cant do the WPS magic!"
00:44:07linuxstb_Cassandra: There shouldn't be. It works fine for both preglow and me (and all the ipodlinux users).
00:44:10qweasdok now what do i do
00:44:52NightCatTest your olugin :)
00:45:31linuxstb_Cassandra: What are the filesizes for apple_os.bin and rockboot.bin ?
00:45:34peturdo you have an 'archos' dir with an '.rockbox' tree in it
00:46:13CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
00:46:13*petur needs some sleep
00:46:21Cassandra-rw-rw-r−− 1 christi christi 4731184 Dec 10 23:44 apple_os.bin
00:46:31Cassandra-rw-rw-r−− 1 christi christi 4812536 Dec 10 23:45 rockboot.bin
00:46:55linuxstb_They look about right.
00:47:36peturqweasd: if you did everything correctly, it should run...
00:47:57CassandraIt dumps much quicker than bootloader.bin, but I suppose that's to be expected.
00:48:30linuxstb_Yes, I think your bootpartition.bin is about 80MB (most of which is empty)
00:48:56CassandraYep, that's right 80mb
00:49:05Cassandra(Size of my first ever hard drive.)
00:49:32peturmy first pc didn't have a harddrive
00:49:37petur2 floppies...
00:50:26peturgoodnight all
00:50:30 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow")
00:50:45qweasdTHANKS GUYS!
00:51:41linuxstb_Cassandra: I can't think of anything to suggest. Maybe preglow will have an idea when he's next around.
00:53:25linuxstb_So if you delete the rockbox.ipod file and then reboot, it justs hangs on "Loading original firmware" ?
00:53:33CassandraYep.
00:53:43CassandraOr if I boot holding menu.
00:55:51CassandraIs there some way to actually turn the iPod off?
00:56:42linuxstb_Nope :)
00:57:04linuxstb_No STOP button, and no OFF button...
00:57:24CassandraThat's not so good.
00:57:31linuxstb_Have you tried "diagnostics mode" (hold rewind and select when booting)
00:57:42linuxstb_I recall preglow saying there is a sleep option in there.
00:58:58CassandraSleepshort?
00:59:21linuxstb_I don't know - diagnostics mode doesn't work on my ipod.
00:59:41linuxstb_(an Apple bug I think - the LCD remains blank)
01:00
01:00:31CassandraThanks, that's probably the best I'm going to manage.
01:00:31linuxstb_Or you could just restore the original boot partition image.
01:00:44linuxstb_Holding play in the Apple firmware sends it to sleep.
01:03:11 Quit qweasd ()
01:04:16webguest55how intuitive
01:04:24webguest55"Press start to shut down" comes to mind.
01:07:05CassandraBit of a faff to reinstall the image every time.
01:07:15webguest55someone should add unicode to the feature comparison chart
01:07:18CassandraThat's what I said when the Apple users told me.
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01:09:47webguest84could someone take a look at the default volume setting? (H140), its set to max as default !
01:10:37webguest84amiconn ^
01:11:06 Part webguest84
01:11:41linuxstb_webguest84: Looking at the code, it's set to -25dB by default
01:12:17linuxstb_But there is a problem when loading old config files.
01:12:41Cassandrawebguest55, you probably need to delete your old config file.
01:12:47***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
01:13:15PaulJwebguest55, Cassandra: thr iriverfirmware also uses a long press on play to shut down (on the non LCD remote)
01:13:42webguest55PaulJ: It so does not. Unless y ou're talking h3x0
01:13:49webguest55webguest55: Not me!
01:14:56webguest55Default setting on h1x0 appears to be -25.
01:15:27webguest55Or rather, it *is* -25 - jsut checked
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01:19:31qweasdhi guys
01:19:44qweasdive got rockbox simulator runing on my pc
01:19:52qweasdis there a way wich i can test rockboy
01:20:00qweasdor can i only do that on my iriver?
01:21:05 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.144)
01:21:30qweasdive got rockbox simulator runing on my pc
01:21:30qweasdis there a way wich i can test rockboy
01:21:30qweasd or can i only do that on my iriver?
01:21:49 Quit Kyl3 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )")
01:21:54qweasdive got rockbox simulator runing on my pc
01:21:54qweasdis there a way wich i can test rockboy
01:21:54qweasd or can i only do that on my iriver?
01:22:28 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se)
01:22:53qweasdive got rockbox simulator runing on my pc
01:22:53qweasdis there a way wich i can test rockboy
01:22:53qweasd or can i only do that on my iriver?
01:22:53DBUGEnqueued KICK qweasd
01:22:53qweasdive got rockbox simulator runing on my pc
01:22:53qweasdis there a way wich i can test rockboy
01:22:54 Quit qweasd (Excess Flood)
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01:23:37qweasdive got rockbox simulator runing on my pc
01:23:37qweasdis there a way wich i can test rockboy
01:23:37qweasd or can i only do that on my iriver?
01:23:49qweasdsome one help
01:24:13CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
01:24:13*LinusN hears an echo
01:24:13 Join Midgey34 [0] (n=Midgey34@c-24-11-55-125.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
01:24:40qweasdive got rockbox simulator runing on my pc
01:24:40qweasdis there a way wich i can test rockboy
01:24:40qweasd or can i only do that on my iriver?
01:25:04CassandraWow, it's almost as though someone were asking to get kickbanned.
01:25:17*LinusN hears an echo again
01:25:19qweasdsorry
01:25:32qweasd:(
01:26:11LinusNi don't know if rockboy works in the sim
01:26:32qweasdis there a way i cant find out?
01:26:40webguest55try it
01:26:44CassandraJust run the plugin.
01:26:49qweasdis there a way that i can view files like music with the sim?
01:27:24qweasdrockboy isnt in the "browse plugins"
01:27:37CassandraThen it doesn't work.
01:27:38LinusNqweasd: you are supposed to play the rom file
01:27:52CassandraI didn't know that.
01:28:38qweasdhow do i do that?
01:28:47Midgey34LinusN: rockboy works fines in the sim here
01:28:54LinusNgood
01:29:07qweasdhow did u get it to work?
01:29:13Jungti1234hmm.
01:29:14webguest55qweasd: just press right or select on a .gb file
01:29:43Midgey34go to the file browser, select a .gb file and press the navi button (5 on the h300 sim)
01:30:17qweasdcheers
01:30:23qweasdthanks:D :D :D
01:31:05Midgey34wow, rockboy flies on the sim, apparently there's no throttling
01:32:13Jungti1234What is 'internal_rom_000000-3FFFFF.bin'?
01:32:25qweasdany one here do C programming?
01:32:40linuxstb_LinusN: Any comments about this patch? http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rtc.diff It's a slight restructuring of the Archos rtc code so I can add rtc_read_datetime() and rtc_write_datetime() functions for the pcf50606 and iPod.
01:32:42CassandraNo, we all write Rockbox in BASIC.
01:32:50Jungti1234There was it to H300 root.
01:32:59qweasdso how did you learn to do that
01:33:02Midgey34qweasd: all the rockbox devs know C - that's what its written in
01:33:12webguest55Jungti1234: that is you doing "dump rom contents" in the debug menu
01:33:32qweasdhow did you all learn to encode files?
01:33:35Jungti1234ah. hehe..
01:34:02qweasdles?
01:34:02qweasd<Jungti1234> ah. hehe..
01:34:06qweasdsorry
01:34:18qweasdhow did you all learn to encode files?
01:34:29webguest55What do you mean
01:34:41qweasdlike learn to make plugins and other stuff
01:34:51Jungti1234qweasd: Where are you from?
01:34:59qweasdengland
01:35:08LinusNlinuxstb: looks ok
01:35:35Midgey34qweasd: plugins are primarily written in C, like the rest of the rockbox code
01:36:01webguest55qweasd: some learnt it in school, other than that, lots of trying and experimentation
01:36:32Midgey34alright this is a longshot, but does anyone here know anything about hyperspheres?
01:37:04merbanan4d objects ?
01:37:06Midgey34I'm trying to derive an equation for a 3-sphere in 4-space. I know the answer, but I can't get to it
01:37:22linuxstb_LinusN: No objections to me committing it then? I've tested it on my recv1 and it still works fine. I know it's trivial, but I don't like changing/creating APIs without a second opinion.
01:37:24Midgey34merbanan: its some stupid abstract calculus
01:37:35CassandraI owe everything i know to Messrs. Kernigan and Richie.
01:37:53Cassandra(And a very fallow period when I was working for IBM in '91.)
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01:38:40qweasdu must have alot of experiance
01:38:43merbananMidgey34: I already passed that course so I'm not to any help
01:38:48LinusNlinuxstb: go ahead
01:38:51qweasdas for me... none:(
01:40:00 Quit Kohlrabi ("Leaving")
01:40:21qweasdanyone know of a good tutorial that will help me learn C programming
01:46:24qweasd anyone know of a good tutorial that will help me learn C programming
01:46:45Jungti1234H300 rockbox is time&date setting possible now?
01:47:00LinusNqweasd: stop repeating yourself
01:47:06xandpwn3d
01:47:20LinusNJungti1234: not quite yet
01:48:19Jungti1234Then, what is "Use the abstract SETTINGS_ defines instead of the target-specific BUTTON_ defines for the time/date settings screen-in preparation for H300/iPod RTC support"?
01:48:54LinusNJungti1234: "in preparation"
01:49:09Jungti1234hahaha.. sorry
01:49:24Jungti1234I wait more.
01:50:09linuxstb_LinusN: I've committed that patch. All I've done on the h300 is here: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/h300-rtc.diff
01:51:11LinusNlinuxstb: ok, so now we need to find a clean solution to the i2c problem
01:52:13LinusNone solution is to disable the interrupt when we read the rtc
01:52:38LinusNmaybe even read one byte at a time and enable the irq in between
01:53:04 Quit qweasd ()
01:55:35linuxstb_LinusN: Is the alternative to read it in a tick function - in a similar way to the adc_tick? Do you know how frequently the status bar code is run?
01:55:47LinusNnot often
01:59:23LinusNotoh, reading 7 bytes doesn't take *that*long, ~25us per byte in 124MHz
02:00
02:00:56LinusNthe problem is that it gets slower in 45MHz
02:03:25 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@69.80-202-102.nextgentel.com)
02:03:36tucozCassandra, still around?
02:04:44tucozI posted a LaTeX version of the 2.4 manual in the forums. I think that should only serve as a cut-and-paste basis
02:06:33tucozIt was generated with writer2latex, and I didn't look at it very much. Maybe it is possible to have that program to split the chapters into separate files, but I think it is easier to do that ourselves.
02:09:06linuxstb_This could help with the "conditional compilation" problem: ftp://cam.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/misc/optional.sty
02:09:49tucozlinuxstb, the target specific doc issue?
02:10:14linuxstb_Yes.
02:10:58LinusNi'm a tex n00b, how do i compile it?
02:11:08tucozLinusN, which one?
02:11:17LinusNthe manual
02:11:28tucozI see, latex filename.tex
02:11:48tucozrunning out of juice in my laptop
02:12:03tucozdvips filename to get a ps file
02:12:12tucozjust press enter on the error lines
02:12:16tucozwhen compiling
02:12:23LinusNa shitload of warnings and errors and then a "?" prompt
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02:12:34tucozyes, press enter on the prompt
02:12:45LinusNLaTeX Error: File `amsmath.sty' not found
02:12:49tucozhehe
02:13:11tucozgot to go, out of battery.
02:13:31tucozthere are probably some tex-wizards around. I am just a user.
02:13:34 Part tucoz ("Leaving")
02:14:08LinusNnever mind, i'll work on the stuff i know instead :-)
02:17:29 Quit dpassen1 ()
02:18:45linuxstb_LinusN: If you are using Debian, you probably haven't installed the tetex-extra package
02:19:07LinusNinstalling...
02:20:06PaulJLinusN: will it be possible to change the backlightintensity on h3x0, or is this not planned? (it's a little too bright for my taste)
02:20:43LinusNi have no plans for it
02:21:01LinusNyou see, it can be changed slightly, but it flickers at lower intensities
02:22:27PaulJok
02:22:35NightCatMy DAP doesn' booting up...
02:22:57LinusNlinuxstb: it worked better, but it still chokes:
02:23:00LinusNParagraph ended before \Hy@setref@link was complete.
02:23:01NightCatWhat is the error: I04:IllInstr?
02:23:11LinusN! Missing } inserted.
02:23:23LinusNNightCat: illegal instruction
02:23:47LinusNNightCat: which often means that it tries to execute garbage
02:24:25NightCatI change the default colors in lcd.h...
02:24:48NightCat#define LCD_BLACK LCD_RGBPACK(52, 5, 255)
02:25:04NightCatand
02:25:06NightCat#define LCD_DEFAULT_BG LCD_RGBPACK(0, 0, 0)
02:25:46linuxstb_LinusN: I got lots of errors when compiling it - just keep your finger on the enter key
02:25:54LinusNi did
02:25:56NightCatCould someone help?
02:26:16LinusNNightCat: i'm trying to, but you haven't told me what you did
02:26:36NightCatI repeat:
02:26:55LinusNlinuxstb: looks AWFUL, i gotta fix the fonts somehow
02:27:03NightCatI change the default colors in lcd.h...
02:27:03NightCat#define LCD_BLACK LCD_RGBPACK(52, 5, 255)
02:27:03NightCatand
02:27:03NightCat#define LCD_DEFAULT_BG LCD_RGBPACK(0, 0, 0)#define LCD_DEFAULT_BG LCD_RGBPACK(0, 0, 0) /* rockbox blue */
02:27:04LinusNbitmap fonts
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02:27:14LinusNNightCat: i know that, you just wrote that
02:27:27NightCatSorry then...
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02:27:40LinusNNightCat: but what did you do to compile it?
02:27:55LinusNNightCat: have you compiled and run your own rockbox binaries before?
02:28:10NightCatrun configure then make then make zip...
02:28:23NightCatOnly on simulator...
02:28:45NightCatOn sim it works fine = no errors but on target...
02:29:03LinusNNightCat: you tried to run a simulator build on the target?
02:29:13NightCatO course no :)
02:29:20NightCatO = Of
02:29:25LinusN(that would have explained the illinstr)
02:29:36LinusNtry "make clean"
02:29:46linuxstb_LinusN: You're right, that version is poor. Did you try the example tucoz posted in his first message in that thread?
02:29:46NightCatinstead of make?
02:30:03LinusNlinuxstb: no i didn't
02:30:08LinusNNightCat: before make
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02:38:51NightCatLinusN: The same problem...
02:39:12NightCatIs there any restrictions for colors?
02:39:32LinusNNightCat: what cross compiler are you using?
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02:39:40NightCatcigwin
02:39:55LinusNNightCat: cygwin isn't a cross compiler
02:40:52NightCatI have installed a cygwin and get the source from cvs...
02:41:24NightCatIs gcc a cross compiler?
02:42:33LinusNNightCat: how did you build rockbox.iriver?
02:43:31NightCatFor the first I do this instructions: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment
02:44:28LinusNok, so you installed the m68k-elf-gcc from erics site?
02:44:32NightCatThen I take source from cvs: http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.html
02:44:56NightCatI take rockbox-devel version
02:46:07NightCatThen change 2 lines in lcd.h
02:46:39NightCatThen create "sim" dir and run configure -> make -> make install there
02:46:50NightCatThen run simulator and it works
02:47:15LinusNok, then what?
02:47:23NightCatThen create "build" dir and run configure -> make -> make zip
02:47:58NightCatThen extract all from new rockbox.zip file (in build dir) to my H320...
02:48:09NightCatThen reboot it... And...
02:48:22NightCatError...
02:49:41LinusNinteresting
02:49:54LinusNi assume that it doesn't work if you change back the colors?
02:50:26NightCatI didn't try...
02:50:32LinusNi guess it won't work
02:50:43LinusNok, so you installed the m68k-elf-gcc from erics site?
02:50:49NightCatI try it in 2 minutes...
02:50:59NightCatYes
02:52:49LinusNi'm not sure if that compiler works that well, nobody tried it for ages
02:57:39webguest26?
02:58:28webguest26Have a minute for a question LinusN?
02:58:40LinusNmost windoze devs either use bluechip's devkit or build their own cross compiler
02:58:44LinusNwebguest26: shoot
02:59:18webguest26I have JBR V2 and a JBR FM on the way. What voltage car adapter should each one have?
02:59:32LinusN6V
02:59:35LinusNregulated
03:00
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03:00:19NightCatIt doesn't works at all...
03:00:30webguest26OK. Thanks. Getting a variety of answers. I trust yours.
03:00:39LinusNNightCat: then i think the cross compiler is broken
03:00:50NightCatWhere can I get the normal working compiler?
03:01:09LinusNbuild it
03:01:24NightCat(I mean a good step by step guide howto make it :)
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03:01:45LinusNNightCat: try the "documentation" section on rockbox.org
03:02:11NightCatI already try it and here is the result you see....
03:03:03LinusNNightCat: look for "building the cross compiler"
03:03:06NightCatOr maybe this guide: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler
03:03:11LinusNexactly
03:03:21NightCatAnd it will roks?
03:03:28LinusNyup
03:03:28NightCatroks=works?
03:03:36NightCatOk...
03:04:04NightCatJust spend all day for cygwin and :)
03:04:17NightCatit doesn't works :)
03:04:21LinusNsorry about that
03:04:49NightCatIt's all right. We are a programmists :)
03:06:35NightCatI have a file gcc-core-3.4.4-1.tar.bz2 is it a right one?
03:08:03Lost-ash3.4.4-1? sounds like a precompiled version or something.
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03:08:13ashridahNightCat: where did you get it?
03:08:35NightCatIt downloads when I installing sygwin
03:09:04ashridahokay, that'll probably be a prebuilt compiler for x86. you need a cross compiler, which you'll need to build yourself.
03:09:22NightCatOk.
03:12:26LinusNlinuxstb: you broke the archos sims
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03:12:38ashridahhaha.
03:12:43NightCatWich gcc to download?
03:12:45ashridahyou shamed him off the server
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03:13:28ashridahNightCat: a download of gcc-core-3.4.5.tar.bz2 will work (there's a link to a site you can find that on the CrossCompiler link you mentioned earlier)
03:14:09ashridahbut i'm not sure what you'd need to do about the issue with binutils and gcc 3.4.x that page mentions
03:14:09NightCatI find that bud there are many versions.
03:15:17NightCatThere is 3.4.0 3.4.1 3.4.2 3.4.3 3.4.4 3.4.5 4.0.0 4.0.1 4.0.2
03:16:16ashridah3.4.5 should do the trick. i don't think anyone's used 4.0 on cygwin yet
03:16:30ashridahat least, they might have, but i don't know if it'd work.
03:16:57LinusNlinuxstb: ah, i see you already fixed it
03:17:03LinusNok, i'm going to bed
03:17:07LinusNnite all
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03:18:27NightCatI have to have some sleep too...
03:18:37NightCatGoodnight...
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04:12:59lushis anyone home?
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04:20:00lushhello?
04:20:58Membrilloyo
04:21:15lushdo you use the rockbox firmware?
04:21:23MembrilloI do
04:21:30Membrilloon my iRiver h300
04:21:57lushdo you like it?
04:22:05Membrillovery much so
04:22:12lushi have an h120
04:22:18Membrilloit kicks the original firmware in the rectum
04:22:18lushusing the iriver firmware
04:22:40lushi have no complaints other than the lag in between songs
04:22:48Membrillowell h120 fixes that up
04:23:02Membrilloand rockbox has a whole lot of added features you would enjoy
04:23:11lushhows the ease of use?
04:23:15Membrilloits also dual-boot, which means you can use the original firmware OR rockbox
04:23:35lushthats kel
04:23:44lush*kewl
04:23:58Membrilloi dont have an h120, but the firmware is designed for ease of use with plenty of features
04:24:05Membrilloid try it
04:24:13Membrilloif you dont like it, get rid of it :)
04:24:35Membrillobut id put a lot of money on that you will find it worthwhile if you give it a shot
04:24:38Jungti1234I have an h120
04:24:42lushyeah i also heard the stock firmware is on a rom chip inside the player
04:24:53Jungti1234h300 too. hehe
04:25:05lushhow do you recall it?
04:25:12lushis the reset button?
04:25:46MembrilloJungti1234: I just did the h120 and h100 versions of my RB downloader. Can you test the h120 version?
04:26:02Jungti1234wait
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04:27:10Jungti1234Come again after re-booting.
04:27:12Jungti1234sorry
04:27:16Paul_The_Nerdlush: You hold down record while booting if you want to boot into the stock firmware. Once there you can firmware upgrade back to the original.
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04:27:34lushok
04:27:51lushyeah im a noob to the whole open source gig
04:28:14Membrilloits alright lush :P you dont have to compile the source at all. Its actually very easy to install rockbox
04:28:25lushnice
04:28:29Membrilloand remove if needs be
04:28:34lushyeah, ive been thinking about it for some time
04:28:44lushive downloaded some files from the rockbox site
04:28:53lushand will most likely play with it tonite
04:28:58Membrillogood idea
04:29:09Membrillothere are plenty of guides on the site if you look around
04:29:20Paul_The_NerdComing from the native firmware, it may feel slightly confusing at first. But everyone who's really given it a chance tends to prefer.
04:30:22lushyeah
04:31:35lushwhat about mp3 encoding
04:31:40lushdoes it support that?
04:32:55Paul_The_NerdNot yet.
04:33:03lush=/
04:33:07Paul_The_NerdRight now the recording only supports wav.
04:33:19Paul_The_NerdThe wavs can then be compressed by a plugin to lossless wavpack.
04:33:37lushnice
04:33:39Paul_The_NerdWell, Rockbox for Iriver isn't at a "release" state yet, so not all features are done.
04:33:44lushyeah
04:33:46lushi read ithat
04:33:50Paul_The_NerdThe Recording is probably the major weak point left.
04:33:54lushits still in r/d
04:33:59lushor beta
04:34:09Paul_The_NerdThough you *can* record from FM Radio now, apparently
04:37:41lushhows stability?
04:38:24Paul_The_NerdWell, usually very very good
04:38:35lushusually?
04:38:37Paul_The_NerdEvery now and then a new build will come out and introduce a crash of some sort.
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04:38:54lusho ok
04:39:10Paul_The_NerdBut that's only really a problem if you're someone who downloads the cutting edge builds every time you see a change committed.
04:39:25Jungti1234hi
04:39:31lushi use my player every day
04:39:33lushall day
04:39:36Paul_The_NerdOtherwise, you'll download a daily build and be fine.
04:39:37lushpretty much
04:39:52lushive had it for a year now
04:40:01lushand only one complaint
04:40:03Jungti1234hey Membrillo
04:40:04Membrilloin otherwords, bugs are fixed pretty quickly :)
04:40:08Membrilloyo
04:40:21Paul_The_NerdWhat's that complaint, lush?
04:40:27Jungti1234I came back.
04:40:54lushit lags when i switch songs
04:41:04lushsometimes up to 5 seconds
04:41:17Membrilloyeah, you need the gapless playback that only rockbox supplies
04:41:26lushlol
04:41:38MembrilloJungti1234: thanks, ill just fix the last few bugs then upload it
04:41:50lushjust how exactly do i restore it to the old irive fw
04:41:57lushi rem hearing something
04:42:03lushthat if you hold the reset button and record
04:42:10Membrilloif you hold record while booting, you go into the orig FW
04:42:16lushthats it/
04:42:18lush?
04:42:23Membrilloyeah
04:42:49Membrillowell, to delete it completely you reflash with plain original iriver FW downloaded from the iriver site
04:43:04Paul_The_NerdThen you run go through the firmware upgrade process with an official iriver firmware file.
04:43:07Membrillobut just to boot to the original you can hold down record
04:43:28lushsounds kewl
04:48:08lushso the basic installation goes like this
04:48:18lushi get the latests fw on the player
04:48:23lushpatch it
04:48:38lushand upload it to the player and updgrade it?
04:48:49Membrilloflash the firmware that you patched
04:48:53Membrilloyep
04:49:04lushthats it?
04:49:04Membrilloand put a daily build on your iRiver root
04:49:12lushfolder?
04:49:31Jungti1234yes
04:49:38lushok what if something happens durring this process
04:49:46lushhow do i recover the fw?
04:49:47Membrilloit'll be a .rockbox folder and a rockbox.iriver process
04:50:23Membrillotheres been VERY little problems with the process
04:50:36lushok
04:50:39Membrillooops folder before^ ;) i was reading and typing hah
04:50:45lushbut what if im the fewww
04:50:47lushwhat do i do?
04:50:58Membrilloits usually just people being stupid
04:51:06Membrillocome back here and tell us if there is a problem
04:51:10Membrilloits usually fixable
04:51:14Jungti1234lush: Where are you from?
04:51:20Paul_The_NerdThe only way you can really harm the player is if fwpatcher creates a bad file. And it does a check on it.
04:51:44Paul_The_NerdSo really, you'd have to actuall screw up the file when copying it to the player somehow.
04:52:00lushk
04:52:01*Paul_The_Nerd can't imagine how you'd do that unless you unplugged it in the middle of the transfer leaving a corrupt file.
04:52:02Membrilloyou have to try pretty hard to screw up the process :P
04:52:11lushim from so cal
04:55:07lush*southern califorina
04:56:32Jungti1234hehe.. I know.
04:57:08Jungti1234But, it took long time to know it.
04:57:13lushlol
04:59:02DrumRBoy|Awayi've screwed it up twice
04:59:44DrumRBoy|Awaylinus says its probably cause my player is just one of those that dosent like a thing or two rockbox does. after i get it to start up once tho, it works fine
05:00
05:00:12DrumRBoy|Away:)
05:01:24MembrilloDrumRBoy|Away: you have a rebel iriver :P
05:02:01Paul_The_NerdDrumRBo|Away: Are you H100, or 300 though?
05:02:10lushheh
05:02:17lushdo they have open source for ipod?
05:02:22lushhehe
05:02:52Paul_The_Nerdlush: A port of Rockbox to iPod is in the early stages.
05:03:08lushwow
05:03:15lushyou guys really have some free time
05:03:24Membrillothat and theres a lot of them :P
05:03:27lushwill it work on the newer h1o series
05:03:28lush?
05:03:33MembrilloThe RB devs are multiplying
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05:04:37Membrillotheyre breeeding
05:04:38Paul_The_NerdThe H10s haven't really been looked at from what I've heard. It was mentioned briefly in here, but I don't think it's really in the line at all as far as I've heard.
05:04:48lushdrats
05:04:50*Paul_The_Nerd is by no means an authority on such things.
05:06:17Membrillohow does the PMP's hardware compare to the H300?
05:06:29Membrillototally different?
05:07:05Paul_The_NerdNo clue. Isn't the PMP open source already, or am I confusing it with something else?
05:07:18Membrillonah PMP hasnt been started yet
05:07:29Membrilloh100 and h120 RB downloaders are done
05:07:34Membrillohttp://jupiter.walagata.com/w/membrillo/H100RockboxDownloader.zip
05:07:40Jungti1234ok
05:07:40Membrillohttp://jupiter.walagata.com/w/membrillo/H120RockboxDownloader.zip
05:07:45Jungti1234I interest to Cowon A2.
05:08:01Paul_The_NerdNo, Membrillo, I didn't say Rockbox. I said Open Source. I thought the official firmware was actually GPL licensed.
05:08:16Membrillooh really??
05:08:18Membrilloi dont think so
05:08:25Membrillothat would be bizzare
05:08:39Membrilloi cant see iriver releasing it open source
05:08:51Paul_The_NerdI think that it's linux based.
05:08:58Membrillowow
05:09:07Membrilloif it is, i have no knowledge of it
05:09:10Membrillopretty cool though
05:09:41Paul_The_NerdI'm about 95% sure the PMP-120 is linux based...
05:11:25Paul_The_Nerdftp://ftp.gpl-devices.org/pub/vendors/iRiver/PMP-1xx/ I think this is the source code for it.
05:11:42Membrillocoolio
05:11:51MembrilloJungti1234: did you try the h1xx dler?
05:11:55Membrillowhichever you own
05:12:08Jungti1234I'm trying.
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05:13:30Jungti1234If downloading a daily build, this is most likely because todays build hasn't beeen released yet, click yes to download yesterdays build or no to cancel.
05:13:36Jungti1234If Downloading a bleeding edge build, Download failed. Click Yes to re-download or No to cancel
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05:14:33Membrillowhats all those random symbols?
05:14:38Membrillojust click yes
05:14:43Jungti1234It yet not release do.
05:15:03Jungti1234ah?
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05:15:11Jungti1234runtime error
05:15:20Membrillowhat.....
05:15:21Membrillo?
05:15:38Jungti1234I don't know.
05:15:47Jungti1234It's Korean.
05:15:58Membrilloright
05:16:06Jungti1234hmm
05:16:15Jungti1234maybe 'Form does not conform.'
05:16:25Membrillowell, 1. i dont have korean fonts installed 2. i couldnt read it if i did
05:16:50Membrilloso does it work or not?
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05:17:45Jungti1234maybe it " '13' run-time error happened.: Form does not conform. "
05:18:10Membrilloso there is an error and it doesnt work?
05:18:26Jungti1234yes
05:18:49Membrillowhen did the error come up?
05:18:59Jungti1234Program auto exit do.
05:19:26Jungti1234When did download yesterdays build.
05:21:05Membrilloyour making no sense.
05:21:28Jungti1234??
05:21:53Membrillodoes anyone else own an h100 or h120 here?
05:22:03Jungti1234Did you understand my speech?
05:22:09Paul_The_NerdI do membrillo
05:22:35Membrillopaul can you test my rockbox downloader? the h300 version works, but i need someone to test the h100 and h120 versions
05:22:53Paul_The_NerdOkay.
05:22:58Membrillowhat model do you have?
05:23:10Paul_The_NerdH120
05:23:13Membrillook
05:23:14Paul_The_NerdI saw the link up there
05:23:17Membrilloyep
05:23:21Membrilloput it on your root
05:23:24Membrilloand run the EXE
05:23:41Membrillothere should be three files to put on your root
05:23:44Paul_The_NerdYeah
05:23:58Paul_The_NerdIt seems to download fine.
05:24:10Jungti1234Complete!
05:24:22Membrilloit works guys?
05:24:35Membrilloit should work, but im just making sure
05:24:36Jungti1234yes but..
05:24:48Jungti1234its small problem.
05:24:59Membrillowhat problem
05:25:04Membrillopaul, did you have problems?
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05:25:28Paul_The_NerdThe only problem I have is that whatever it downloaded wasn't the bleeding edge.
05:25:50Jungti1234When downloaded build of yesterday, problem happens.
05:26:56MembrilloPaul_The_Nerd: what do you mean
05:27:12MembrilloJungti1234: why is that?
05:27:26Jungti1234um?
05:27:33Jungti1234I don't understand
05:27:54Membrillodownloading the yesterday build works for me
05:28:12Paul_The_NerdMembrillo: My mistake. The files were dated differently than if I downloaded and extracted myself.
05:28:24Paul_The_NerdLike, the file themselves, the last modified date
05:28:50Membrillooh right
05:29:03Paul_The_NerdBut everything seems to be okay
05:29:06Membrilloso the date tags were changed when you unzipped
05:29:21Membrilloawesome
05:29:32Membrilloill put up a new topic on MR for these versions
05:29:45Paul_The_NerdI still would rather just download by hand. I don't want the extra files on the unit, 'n all.]
05:44:29Membrilloah well
05:44:38Membrilloi guess some like it others dont
05:44:46Membrilloi got good reviews for the h300 one
05:46:17Paul_The_NerdI just don't really see the need for it.
05:47:53Membrillothats cool
05:48:30Membrilloi mainly did it for coding experience. Ive only done VB for a term in high school, and i wanted to learn some more and this idea came
05:48:34Jungti1234I want to have much players.
05:49:36Membrilloit saves time and effort, all you have to do is double click the icon, click the command button and then exit
05:50:16Membrillosaves opening a browser, going to rockbox, going to daily builds, download, extract, and then delete the zip
05:51:18Paul_The_NerdFair enough.
05:52:00Paul_The_NerdI usually look at the changelog to see if somethign interesting went in, than build from source. (Right now I'm not using any patches, but it's kinda a habit now)
05:52:30Membrilloi could have a popup which showed the changelog...?
05:53:00Membrillowould that be useful?
05:54:19Paul_The_NerdI don't know.
05:54:34Paul_The_NerdI just like to visit the page, I think.
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06:14:13joshn_454are any of the core devs on?
06:14:39joshn_454I'm trying to hack rockbox to pause when switching tracks
06:15:23joshn_454I've added a hook in the MPEG_NEXT case of the mpeg.c queue loop, but it doesn't seem to have any effect?
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06:40:26joshn_454ok, found solution myself. I needed to add the hook in the MPEG_TRACK_CHANGE case
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06:56:19thegeek_oh how I wish that there was some way we could implement dolby's headphone sound-processing algo's
06:56:25thegeek_they sound fantastic
06:56:56thegeek_using it with foobar2000 through a compat-module now, and it _really_ adds a lot of life
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07:11:24DreamTactix291i've never tried using that
07:11:32DreamTactix291i tend to not like EQ at all
07:11:58thegeek_well
07:12:16thegeek_I tend to _hate_ any kind of sound processing besides a very mild eq
07:12:17DreamTactix291all personal preference
07:12:19thegeek_however
07:12:26thegeek_this REALLY blows me away
07:12:46DreamTactix291i don't even like mild EQ
07:12:53thegeek_the sound is very different, but I actually like it
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07:13:36thegeek_If you can honestly say that you dont even like mild eq you are one of very few
07:13:44thegeek_most people like a little eq
07:13:49DreamTactix291i listen to flat
07:13:59thegeek_and a lot of "purists" are puristst for the idea itself
07:14:10thegeek_besides
07:14:18DreamTactix291oh i've tried tweaking EQ before
07:14:20thegeek_all parts of the chain will alter your sound
07:14:24DreamTactix291i just didn't like how it changed the sound
07:14:32thegeek_you might just have very colored equipment
07:14:36DreamTactix291i only have like part of the chain that's analogue
07:14:52DreamTactix291and that's receiver to speakers
07:15:13DreamTactix291i run kernel streaming to my AV-710 and it runs S/PDIF to the receiver
07:15:19thegeek_your amp will add a lot of colour
07:15:25thegeek_and speakers too
07:15:31thegeek_;)
07:15:42DreamTactix291well i'll put it this way
07:15:48DreamTactix291i don't tweak it on my own
07:16:04thegeek_you should try using foobar2000 and the dolby plugin
07:16:12thegeek_it's not an eq really
07:16:20DreamTactix291well i use foobar2000
07:16:29thegeek_and it's not like most crappy "improve your sound" plugins
07:16:53DreamTactix291i'm one of the few who likes how demos and such sound a lot as well i guess
07:17:05thegeek_http://pelit.koillismaa.fi/plugins/redir.php?id=584
07:17:14thegeek_use that foobar2000 plugin
07:17:18thegeek_you'll also need DOLBYHPH.DLL
07:18:12thegeek_this is ofcourse supposed to work with headphones
07:19:25DreamTactix291yeah i don't have dolbyhph.dll
07:19:43thegeek_I use the optical (bitperfect) out from my motherboard with a nonoversampling dac (dac-ah) directly outputting to my sennheisier 595's
07:20:10DreamTactix291i usually listen on speakers
07:20:20DreamTactix291when i use headphones it's my Sennheiser HD212 Pros usually
07:20:33thegeek_http://ninjarape.net/dolbyhph.dll
07:20:53thegeek_be sure to test all the 3 modes of the plugin, to find the one you prefer
07:22:26DreamTactix291hmm
07:22:33DreamTactix291i think i like it better without personally
07:23:27thegeek_pah! ;)
07:23:40DreamTactix291i'm trying some Dream Theater with the different modes
07:25:47DreamTactix291yeah i like it more without
07:27:02DreamTactix291my ideal system one day will add as little colour to the sound as possible
07:27:10DreamTactix291but i doubt i'll ever get there
07:28:23DreamTactix291completely unrelated point but is anyone else here sick of all newer albums having almost no dynamics and many of them clipping?
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07:30:36DreamTactix291ok almost all
07:30:37DreamTactix291hello
07:30:57WireDDDhello
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07:36:01thegeek_DreamTactix291
07:36:04thegeek_that will never happen
07:36:14thegeek_all music has colour added
07:36:14DreamTactix291that's why i said as close as possible
07:36:49thegeek_most cd's today are edited/mixed/dynamically compressed A LOT
07:36:54DreamTactix291i've noticed
07:36:56DreamTactix291trust me
07:37:04thegeek_so even if you could reproduce a cd perfectly
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07:37:23thegeek_you'll never fullfill your purist dream;)
07:37:24thegeek_hehe
07:37:27thegeek_I've given up
07:37:35thegeek_I'm just going with what sounds good
07:37:48DreamTactix291i'm just sick of hearing clipping in everything mostly
07:37:48DreamTactix291well
07:37:53thegeek_oh yes
07:37:54DreamTactix291that and there being no range at all
07:37:58DreamTactix291that gets old too
07:38:01DreamTactix291makes me tired
07:38:02thegeek_indeed
07:38:21DreamTactix291like right now
07:38:30DreamTactix291i'm listening to the only Dream Theater album that i think was mastered properly
07:38:39thegeek_mhm
07:38:45DreamTactix291Images and Words
07:40:54Membrilloanyone who works on the rockbox site, is there a URL which just shows the Recent CVS activity thats constantly updating?
07:40:59DreamTactix291after playing guitar for 7 years i'm taking up another instrument as well which is cool
07:41:21thegeek_for the record; the "live" setting is the best for the dolby headphone plugin, it does not kill vocals
07:41:36DreamTactix291i noticed
07:41:38thegeek_heh
07:41:43DreamTactix291:)
07:41:48thegeek_I played alt saxophone for 9 years
07:41:51thegeek_then I quit
07:42:07DreamTactix291i kinda took a long break from guitar
07:42:12DreamTactix291and have picked it back up
07:42:19thegeek_I'm thinking about starting again, but there's just so much that makes it hard right now;)
07:42:22DreamTactix291i'm not especially musically talented but i enjoy it
07:42:26Membrillo^^^ does anyone know? can i get a page with just the recent CVS actibity
07:42:27DreamTactix291i'm taking up the keyboard
07:42:41Membrilloactivity*
07:42:43thegeek_I wish I knew how to play the piano
07:42:46thegeek_like, really well
07:42:50DreamTactix291me too
07:42:53DreamTactix291hopefully i will
07:44:19DreamTactix291most of what i listen has some mean keyboard work in it
07:44:28thegeek_hehe
07:44:35thegeek_I listen to so much wierd stuff
07:44:41DreamTactix291i'm a prog rock fan
07:44:52thegeek_from bulgarian all-female choir's to marily manson to gwen stefani
07:46:31DreamTactix291most of what i listen to is progressive rock/metal
07:47:25thegeek_hehe
07:47:28thegeek_that's nice
07:47:30thegeek_but gets boring
07:47:46DreamTactix291not usually to me
07:47:55thegeek_I could never stick to just one kind of music
07:47:57DreamTactix291but i lean more towards prog metal
07:48:02DreamTactix291oh i'll try anything
07:48:06DreamTactix291that's just what i like most
07:48:11thegeek_mhm
07:48:18thegeek_I do ofcourse prefer some styles
07:48:26thegeek_but I dont have one fav
07:48:32DreamTactix291yeah
07:48:34DreamTactix291for example
07:48:46DreamTactix291if you'd told me a year ago i'd be listening to Opeth now i'd have said you were crazy
07:48:51DreamTactix291but here i am
07:48:54DreamTactix291i listen to Opeth
07:49:04DreamTactix291because i heard mikael akerfeldt sing in the human equation
07:49:09DreamTactix291then heard him sing in damnation
07:49:18DreamTactix291then worked my way towards the heavy opeth stuff
07:49:26DreamTactix291it's all interlinked for me
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09:24:00Jungti1234hi
09:27:37cannardanyong
09:34:34Jungti1234MPEG-21 is DRM?
09:45:23cannardhmm i think it is a drm framework
09:45:30cannardnot a codec, according to wiki anyway
09:52:01Jungti1234ah
09:52:04Jungti1234thank you
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10:07:42_FireFly_moin :)
10:08:08XavierGrHi _FireFly_.
10:09:02_FireFly_wow that was fast :)
10:09:15_FireFly_my patch is commited
10:09:31XavierGrLucky
10:09:40_FireFly_;)
10:10:17XavierGrI am optimizing my jpeg file scroller now. (I didn't bother yet with the sorting)
10:10:25_FireFly_bug-fixes have an higher priority it seams
10:10:26Jungti1234hi
10:12:42XavierGr_FireFly_: Let's assume that I have an integer pointer.
10:12:56XavierGrand a function that returns a pointer.
10:13:15_FireFly_yes?
10:13:28XavierGrif pointer = function() the pointer will get the address returned from the function right?
10:13:34_FireFly_yepp
10:13:42XavierGrwhat if...
10:14:01_FireFly_but if you return a address to var which was declared inside the fn then the pointer is invalid
10:14:04XavierGrI want the next (int) address memory to get the output of the function?
10:14:19_FireFly_??
10:14:30XavierGrsomething like poiter + 1 * sizeof(int) = function.
10:15:16XavierGr(maybe I will not need it, I am just asking to learn it)
10:15:22XavierGris it possible?
10:15:51_FireFly_does the fn returns the start adress of an integer-array ??
10:16:33XavierGrnow that I think it, I think my question is stupid...
10:16:53_FireFly_it seams because i have no clue what do you want to know :)
10:17:36XavierGrah what the hell I wil tell you even if it is stupid, at least I will get to learn something.
10:18:02XavierGrAs you remember yesterday I used a pointer integer to have all seek positions of a file.
10:18:25_FireFly_an int array i thought
10:18:38_FireFly_which you have given the qsort-fn as parameter
10:18:49Jungti1234When does unicode input support in rockbox?
10:19:06XavierGrI used pointer = get_plugin_buffer() to get the adress of the memory that the plugin doesn't use
10:19:23_FireFly_and then ??
10:19:36Jungti1234I want Hangul(Korean alphabet) input.
10:19:36CassandraJungti1234, about a week ago.
10:20:10CassandraI presume you mean Unicode output.
10:20:16Jungti1234It doesn't support now.
10:20:25Jungti1234hehe..
10:20:29Jungti1234no
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10:20:33_FireFly_Cassandra: he mean the vkeyboard
10:20:42CassandraAh.
10:21:00XavierGrwell truth is that I thought this function a a malloc but it isn't. plugin_get_buffer will get an integer as an argument and it will adjust the integer to the size of the remnant plugin memory and return the first address that isn't used in the end of the plugin.
10:21:02_FireFly_it doesn't support other char currently as the currently given one
10:21:08CassandraNow that is a mystery.
10:21:12Midgey34Sokoban patch added to the tracker... feel free to take a look
10:21:20CassandraI'm not even sure it's plausible to implement.
10:21:31CassandraBut then I'm no unicode expert.
10:22:23XavierGranyway _FireFly_ thanks for the help, I will not need what I told you. It was stupid after all. ;p
10:22:29_FireFly_;)
10:22:47Jungti1234Must it develop myself?
10:22:58XavierGrAs much as I hated pointers at the start, now I begin to fall in love with them.
10:23:04_FireFly_Jungti1234: if you can why not
10:23:48_FireFly_if you increment an integer pointer the new address in the pointer points to the next valid adress
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10:25:06XavierGrgood point is that rockbox puts the whole plugin in the start of the plugin memory so if the plugin is small (or it fits) the rest of the memory is free to use for your needs.
10:26:53XavierGr_FireFly_: What do you think that instead of using qsort to sort the list I could always sort it when I write the list manually.
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10:27:14XavierGrWhat would be more efficient?
10:27:37_FireFly_which list do you want to sort manually ??
10:28:48_FireFly_you have an array of the seek-points of each string in the file am i right ??
10:29:06XavierGrthe yesterday list. In the program I have a loop that will read each jpeg file on the folder and then write it to the file. On each input I could sort it. Of course then again I must sort again all the rest entries.
10:29:11XavierGryes
10:30:16_FireFly_then use qsort with you compare-fn with my suggested modifications and then your array represents the sorted order of the strings
10:31:00_FireFly_then you only read the string with the reordered seek-points in the array and write it to a new file
10:31:14_FireFly_then the file has the sorted strings
10:32:11XavierGryes, I will think more of it, it will be difficult to make it be fast. Thing is that I want both jpeg viewer while playing and no limitation on number of files in folder. (except if it runs out of memory which it will stop)
10:32:56_FireFly_how does the file-tree sort the files as given in the sort-settings ??
10:33:23XavierGrwith a qsort algorithm
10:33:42_FireFly_and all in memory ??
10:33:50XavierGrthe compare function is more advance because it uses various sorting methods. Like sensitive case and the like
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10:34:11XavierGr_FireFly_:Yes
10:34:16XavierGrall in memory
10:37:11XavierGrf*ck sometimes something is wrong with the pointers. The plugin exits with an error and then I can't start any plugin or playback a file.
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10:38:13XavierGrit the exits any time I start a plugin with can't start "rock file" or when I try to play a music file says: Error accessing playlist file. Why is that I wonder.
10:39:03_FireFly_you have maybe overwritten something which breaks all
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10:39:09_FireFly_with the pointer
10:39:54XavierGryeah maybe. now I must find ways to protect it from such situations.
10:40:42_FireFly_XavierGr: how to you get the list of the files in the dir ??
10:41:50XavierGrwith a loop and some some directory functions.
10:42:38XavierGrthe loop scans every item in the folder and if it encounters a jpg file it will add it to the file (and write the seek position to the pointer array)
10:43:27XavierGrit would be much easier to use data from the cache but that is impossible without adding functions to the plugin api.
10:44:03_FireFly_true
10:45:45XavierGrI think I found a possible cause of the error. I continually open a file for reading and never close it!!!!!
10:45:53_FireFly_ouch
10:46:03XavierGrindeed.
10:46:31_FireFly_then you should go with an temp-file which have the unsorted file-strings and sort the seek-pointer array with qsort and your compare fn
10:46:59XavierGrwell it was a left over now I removed this open function.
10:47:14XavierGr(it was there when I was debugging it)
10:47:24_FireFly_after the sorting write the sorted strings to the file which should hold all found jpegs
10:47:26XavierGr_FireFly_: Yes that's what I am trying to do.
10:48:00_FireFly_have you tried my suggestions in your compare fn ??
10:48:39_FireFly_and have you checked if the seek-point-array represents the sorted order of the strings after using qsort ??
10:48:48XavierGrwhat was again your suggestion? (I think that I do what you said, just don't remember it clearly).
10:51:41XavierGrha fortunately it was this left over that caused that big bug :)
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12:47:13Jungti1234lalala
12:47:27markunJungti1234: I can take a look at hangul input
12:47:43Jungti1234really? hehehe
12:48:02Jungti1234ah markun
12:48:19markunBut I need to find a table that tells me how to combine the combine hangul
12:48:25Jungti1234I updated a little Korean translation.
12:48:37Jungti1234ok wait
12:48:45Jungti1234I will find.
12:48:46markunJust send me a new translation every 2 weeks :)
12:49:22Jungti1234ojk
12:49:24Jungti1234ok
12:49:49Jungti1234By the way, don't I explain Hangul input to you?
12:52:14Jungti1234markun
12:52:40markunI understand hangul input
12:52:49markunAnd you also send me some pictures, remember?
12:52:51Jungti1234http://blogfiles15.naver.net/data11/2005/10/14/254/psphan-ssb0729.jpg : This is PSP's Hangul input.
12:52:54Jungti1234yes
12:54:01markunJungti1234: Maybe you can ask the korean programmer who is working on the viewer to come here. He might also like to work on a hangul input method.
12:54:04Jungti1234You find 'Hangul' in wikipedia.
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12:54:15Jungti1234He gave up it.
12:54:32Jungti1234He is waiting that you do.
12:54:58Jungti1234Don't you remember?
12:55:16Jungti1234You spoke that someone is doing the work already.
12:55:24markunNo, I don't remember.
12:55:30markunDoes he speak English?
12:55:45Jungti1234And 2 people did that don't want that do the work.
12:55:50Jungti1234I don't know.
12:56:10Jungti1234I can't see often him.
12:56:48markunIt would be nice if a korean made the hangul input, because I will not know for sure it the way I implement it is the right way.
12:57:22Jungti1234no
12:57:52Jungti1234The South Korea doesn't have programmer who have H300.
12:58:08Jungti1234Or they are beginner.
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13:00:20markunI can't believe that. You told me there are thousands of H300 users.
13:01:25Jungti1234More than ten thousand people
13:02:07Jungti1234Can't you make it?
13:02:35markunI can, but it will take time.
13:03:00Jungti1234Do you understand Hangul?
13:03:07Jungti1234hangle input?
13:03:09Jungti1234gul
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13:03:13markunI understand it enough I think.
13:03:27Jungti1234Explain to me.
13:03:54Jungti1234I test you.
13:04:11markunEvery syllable is made up of 3 (or 2 or 1) letters. The input method combines the typed letters into syllables.
13:04:36Jungti1234http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hangeul.png
13:04:53Jungti1234-> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/Hangeul.png
13:05:00markunyes, just like that.
13:05:18Jungti1234hehe..
13:05:36Jungti1234Does Hangul look in your computer?
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13:07:22linuxstbIs it just me, or are www.misticriver.net and forums.rockbox.org unavailable?
13:07:58ep0ch|rockbox one was down when i tried 5 mins ago
13:07:59_FireFly_no i can't also access the forum
13:08:16XavierGrrockbox forums are hosted from misticriver.
13:08:34linuxstbXavierGr: Yep - must be a problem with their ISP
13:09:23XavierGrI changed the size of plugin buffer for some debugging.
13:12:23XavierGrok question about opening files
13:12:47saa[b_r]iderlinuxstb: I've been having the same problem
13:12:59XavierGrlets say I open a file, but then an error appears and my plugin exits without first closing the file. WIll this cause problems?
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13:13:14LearYes.
13:13:44XavierGrbut what can I do if it shuts unexpectidly from the error?
13:14:30LearWell, it should be possible to exit the plugin without your program knowing about it...
13:14:36Learshouldn't
13:15:02ep0ch|linuxstb: what was the url to your custom menu shortcuts patch?
13:17:07markunsaa[b_r]ider: me too, I wanted to take a look at the forum post you sent me
13:18:18ep0ch|linuxstb: no worries i found it
13:21:11saa[b_r]idermakun: this is the second time this happened to me today, they're probably having server problems
13:27:45XavierGrwell plugin developers must be very carefull when opening a file. If their plugin crashes witout closing the file it can cause major problems if that is repeated.
13:28:26XavierGrIn my situation, it needs more than 6 failed results to make rockbox nonresponsive.
13:28:44XavierGrIf that appears rockbox will refuse to open any file or playback
13:28:58linuxstbXavierGr: Plugins should never crash.
13:29:13XavierGrso this is not easy to spot as it needs more than once to make this bug happen.
13:29:23Learxaviergr: #define MAX_OPEN_FILES 8
13:29:33XavierGrlinuxstb: Look at the jpeg viewer.
13:29:53linuxstbXavierGr: Why? What's wrong with the jpeg viewer?
13:29:54XavierGrit has a gray buf error that will cause the plugin to exit but will not close the file.
13:30:16linuxstbWhat will cause that error?
13:30:57XavierGrI changed plugin buffer from 768 kb to 100 and forced the jpeg viewer to open a jpeg using plugin buffer.
13:31:14Learwell, that's a bug in the viewer. an error check a little further down closes the file properly.
13:31:23XavierGryes
13:31:46XavierGrthe same problem appeared to me when I forgot to close files.
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13:32:55linuxstbShall I fix it?
13:33:39XavierGrwell I fixed it on my build which I added many more things.
13:33:41XavierGrbut yeah
13:33:54linuxstbThere seem to be lots of places where unexpected errors happen, but fd isn't closed.
13:33:56XavierGrfix it becuase I need to compelte the sorting procedure.
13:34:31XavierGryeah now that you mention it.
13:34:40XavierGrit will happen on low memory too.
13:35:31XavierGrvery evil bug. I couldn't tell what caused this.
13:36:13linuxstbIt's actually only in one place - fd already closed before the other plugin errors can happen.
13:37:24XavierGrah yes I had changed the out of memory code
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13:37:35XavierGrit only appears on the gray buf error
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13:38:44linuxstbXavierGr: Fixed in CVS.
13:39:29XavierGrokay, I will bother you once more if I finish this and it's usable and better.
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13:50:14linuxstbpreglow: Are you around?
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14:05:02tucozI've added the two first parts of the 2.4 manual to the LaTeX proposal. I have only copied and pasted for now, and cleaned up some stuff so that it compiles cleanly. http://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/rockbox.pdf
14:05:32tucozThe tables looks like shite, but that is probably easy to fix
14:06:31tucozAs they seem to be somewhat hard-coded in the writer2latex version. I think it is easy to let LaTeX do the formatting of them instead of hard coding values like it is now.
14:06:46tucoz...but that I haven't done yet.
14:07:33linuxstbIt's looking good. Have you explored methods for producing different manuals for different targets?
14:08:00tucozlinuxstb, no, not yet
14:08:13tucozlinuxstb, do you know how to use the sty files?
14:08:20tucozis that a package?
14:08:49Jungti1234Why does Rockbox need 'Does the Rockbox bootloader work with 1.28J (Japanese version) ?' in FAQ?
14:10:06tucozI am looking at the optional stuff now.
14:10:24linuxstbtucoz: It's been many years since I used LaTeX, but yes, I think the .sty files are simply packages of macros - the optional.sty package I mentioned seems to be part of the standard LaTeX distribution (at least I have a copy on Debian)
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14:10:43preglowlinuxstb: lucky you, i am now
14:10:52tucozOh, ok. I am looking at the file now.
14:11:06Sanis misticriver working for any of you guys?
14:11:49linuxstbpreglow: I'm having problems with my iPod (rockbox.ipod seems to be freezing very early - before it update the LCD) - does the latest CVS work for you?
14:12:00preglowlinuxstb: i'll be checking it afterwards
14:12:03preglowi just need some food first
14:13:00Amarsan: i con't get on at the moment
14:13:09Sanme neither :\
14:13:10preglowperhaps i broke something when i commited threads.c?
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14:13:53g33i miss being able to que a file with just one click in the original firmware... wouldnt it be possible to put files on que with just a single click when browsing files?
14:14:20linuxstbpreglow: No, I don't think it's that. I expect it's my i2c code, but that has been working perfectly for the last week or two. It just suddenly stopped working after I committed it...
14:14:23preglowpossible yes, will we do it, no
14:14:35preglowlinuxstb: wonderful!
14:15:03tucozThe different files for the LaTeX-manual is to be found here -> http://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/ . manual.zip contains the build-system, rockbox-manual-2.4.zip the w2l generated docs.
14:15:28tucozI think we can just trust that optional works
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14:18:54Sanwhat does "parse error before '->' token" meen?
14:20:00preglowwhat it says
14:20:06Sanlol
14:20:15preglowthere's something it doesn't understand before the ->
14:21:16San rb->lcd_clear_display()
14:21:21Sanwhats wrong with that?
14:22:31linuxstbThere is no semi-colon at the end?
14:22:36Santhere is
14:22:56linuxstbI assume that's in a plugin?
14:22:56Sanpl
14:22:59Sanyes
14:23:13San#ifdef HAVE_LCD_COLOR
14:23:14San rb->lcd_clear_display();
14:23:14San rb->lcd_set_foreground(COLOR_WHITE);
14:23:14DBUGEnqueued KICK San
14:23:14San rb->lcd_set_background(COLOR_BLUE);
14:23:14San#endi
14:23:19Santhats the section its in
14:23:37Sanenddif
14:23:39Sanmy bad
14:23:57Sananything wrong with that?
14:24:09linuxstbNothing obvious.
14:24:30linuxstbDoes it compile if you remove that line?
14:24:40Sanyes
14:24:51LearMaybe the line before is the faulty one?
14:25:08San#endif /* HAVE_LCD_BITMAP */ ?
14:25:41linuxstbSan: Can you upload the entire .c file somewhere?
14:25:51LearThe line with real code... :)
14:25:52Sanok, but 1 sec
14:26:01Sani'm gona try compile again
14:27:15Amarmistic river is working again
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14:29:17LearIs it?
14:29:36_FireFly_misticriver it self yepp but not the rockbox-forum
14:30:12XavierGryes rockbox forums are still down
14:30:14tucozI'll just leave the doc files at the webserver, and if someone else finds it interesting, please work on it. I have to work on something else for a while now.
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14:31:22linuxstbSan: Is it working now?
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14:34:04San||Awayhow come I see things in the IRC logs that I dont see here?
14:34:17XavierGrmy god! Greyscale needs ~82kB of data to work on iriver. If that's the case for Archos targets too then archos users will have to say goodbye to simultaneous JPEG vieweing and playback.
14:34:25_FireFly_what things San||Away
14:34:34San||Awaylike, messages
14:34:42_FireFly_waht messages
14:34:49San||Awayi see them in the logs, but when I look up, I dont see them
14:34:58San||Away<Amar> mistic river is working again
14:35:05San||Awayi dont see that in my logs
14:35:15linuxstbSan: You probably lost your IRC connection
14:35:23San||Awaybut, I replyed after it
14:35:31San||Away:\
14:35:40XavierGrlinuxstb: He says about those kick messages
14:35:46_FireFly_is it your own log local one
14:35:48XavierGror flood warnings
14:35:54XavierGrwhich the bot triggers
14:35:59XavierGrI don't see them too.
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14:37:49San||Awayhttp://www.diabolikal.org/hosted/pong.c
14:37:57San||Awaythere is the source, if you didn't get it
14:38:07saa[b_r]idershe's alive! misticriver is back!
14:38:13San||Awayyeah :D
14:38:44XavierGrI thought it was "the misticriver" "it" not "she" is mistic river female? :D
14:38:50LearCode outside functions isn't likely to work...
14:39:04_FireFly_yepp
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14:39:20San||Awaywhere do I put it then?
14:39:43LearInside one, obviously. :) My guess is, it should be after the clear screen call.
14:39:45linuxstbProbably a few lines up - just before the while(game > 0) line
14:40:08XavierGranyone with an archos unit here?
14:40:12San||Awaykk
14:40:14San||Awaycompiling
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14:45:37saa[b_r]iderxavierGr: put that way, your right... I was thinking of "her" as a site, so that sounded right to me...
14:46:04XavierGrhehe
14:46:18saa[b_r]iderthen again, english doesn't include gender to nouns like other languages, such as arabic. do you have gender for nouns in greek?
14:46:31XavierGryes we have
14:46:41XavierGrand site in greek is also female
14:46:43Moosyeah arabic and french
14:47:01Moosmale here in french
14:47:02saa[b_r]iderin arabic it's actually male :D
14:47:11Moosoh yeah
14:47:13XavierGrhaha
14:47:42XavierGrwell it's how you translate "site"
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14:48:04saa[b_r]idermoos your parents are from morocco right?
14:48:10XavierGrwe use the word page for site, but if you translate the word as "place" then yes it is male in greek too.
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14:48:53Moossaab: yeah, how you know? I'm marocco born in france :)
14:49:28saa[b_r]iderthe arabic translation for site is equal to site as in location
14:49:34saa[b_r]iderlike construction site...
14:49:39Moosin french too
14:49:48Moos"un site"
14:49:51saa[b_r]iderMoos: Markun told me :)
14:49:58Mooshaha ok
14:50:20saa[b_r]iderI always spell marocco wrong!
14:50:29Mooswe are'nt lot of arabic Rockbox users :(
14:50:40MoosMorrocco in english I think
14:50:52MoosMaghreb in arabic sounds better ;)
14:51:13saa[b_r]ideryet we still get arabic support in RB!
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14:51:56XavierGrsaa[b_r]ider: why the "b_r" are in brackets?
14:52:11XavierGrdoes saa ider means something?
14:52:18Moosme, I can't found out how to translate Rockbox strings in arabic, cause I don't use arabic computers vocabulary
14:52:20XavierGror just an FX?
14:52:55saa[b_r]iderjust FX, makes it look like a weird smiley :D
14:53:17XavierGrdo you have a saab?
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14:53:21preglowlinuxstb: testing now
14:53:28Sanw00t, color pong
14:53:29San:D
14:53:32Mooswe using "saab" in Morocan language="like if..."
14:53:35XavierGrI mean do you drive one?
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14:54:06saa[b_r]iderMoos: yeah... I mean I can't imagine thinking of translations for treble, bass, crossfade etc it arabic!
14:54:19saa[b_r]ideryup, proud owner of a Saab 900 ;)
14:54:22Moosyes here too :(
14:55:08saa[b_r]ideractually, I always made fun of the translations they use in computers and mobile phones etc...
14:55:15saa[b_r]ider:)
14:55:50Jungti1234good night
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14:56:38Mooswhat is your everydays language?
14:56:45Moos@saab
14:57:43saa[b_r]iderI have been raised and studied in school in arabic, but I've spoken english since forever
14:57:44Moosenglish, arabic? chinees?
14:57:51Moosok
14:57:55saa[b_r]iderand yeah, I speak chinese as well :D
14:58:04Mooshehe :)
14:58:10Moosnot a bit of french?
14:58:32saa[b_r]ideronly "merci" :P
14:58:42Mooshehe :)
14:59:14Moos"chokran" sounds better :D
14:59:17saa[b_r]iderfrench isn't popular in gulf countries as in north west africa, and lebanon
14:59:40Moosfrench is spoken in Libanon
14:59:50Sanm4a is really buggy on the H300
15:00
15:00:10Moosin arabic gulf is the english?
15:00:16Moosoops @saab
15:00:35MoosSan: m4a is still in devlopement
15:00:38Sanok
15:00:44preglowokokokok
15:00:46Mooslet's hope in linuxstb
15:00:49preglowthis pc is so incredibly isb unfriendly
15:00:53preglowi can't unmount anything
15:01:00saa[b_r]iderMoss: well not everyone speaks english, but it's the most common second language, cause it's taught in school
15:01:02preglowand when i try after writing, the entire file system is corrupted
15:01:12Moossaab: ok
15:01:17_FireFly_preglow: os ?
15:01:18Moospreglow :(
15:01:23preglowwin2k
15:01:39saa[b_r]iderisb?
15:01:45saa[b_r]iderUSB you mean?
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15:02:09preglowlinuxstb: i get stkov panic
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15:03:22Sancolor snake
15:03:40saa[b_r]iderpreglow: in 2000 you need to close all windows and apps using the USB drive, then "safely remove" the drive from the system tray
15:03:59preglowsaa[b_r]ider: well, yes, i'm used to xp, and you need to do that there as well
15:04:04preglowsaa[b_r]ider: it never releases it here
15:04:13preglowit's probably the bloody anti virus shut
15:04:15preglowshit <-
15:04:29saa[b_r]idergotta hate norton :)
15:04:37preglowf-secure
15:04:38saa[b_r]ideronly love it when you need it :D
15:04:41preglownorton is even worse, though
15:04:44preglowi never need anti virus
15:04:56preglowi've never had a virus in my entire life, so i've got do be doing something right
15:04:57Mooshere too, never antivirus
15:05:02preglowbut this isn't my pc, so can't exactly remove it
15:05:19saa[b_r]idervery impressive you two!
15:05:40Moosif no needed, no needed ;)
15:05:51FebsWho is JoaquimDias?
15:06:18saa[b_r]idersan: as in Sanitarium?
15:06:43FebsHe made changes to the ManualMainMenu that are iriver h100 specific, out of context and contain spelling and grammatical errors.
15:07:06preglowthen revert it
15:07:09preglowor fix it
15:07:20saa[b_r]ideryou can still go back to the older version...
15:07:48FebsI'm about to fix it. I don't know if I have the ability to revert it.
15:08:14XavierGrpreglow: I know what you mean. I was told to use norton and since the day I used it (i removed it of course) I haven't use an antivirus program.
15:09:04_FireFly_when i'm ander windows then i have free-av running
15:09:14_FireFly_;)
15:09:37saa[b_r]iderthe problem is if other people use your machine....
15:09:40_FireFly_but most of the time under linux -> now antivirus is needed
15:10:23saa[b_r]idersome people click on every single pop-up window tricked by those clever windows look-alikes
15:11:07Mooswith firefox not a lot of pop-up fortunatly
15:12:07XavierGrsaa[b_r]ider: Say that again, I am lying to my brother that I don't have internet for that reason!
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15:12:43San||Awayhttp://www.diabolikal.org/hosted/Color%20Snake.zip
15:12:45San||Awaycolor snake if anyone wants it ^^
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15:12:58saa[b_r]iderhehehehe :) well you can't blame them. not everyone spends as much time on computers as we do :)
15:13:10Moos:)
15:13:12***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
15:13:29_FireFly_but a bit safty in mind should be possible
15:13:29saa[b_r]idersan||away: is this the same as the color snake posted at MR?
15:13:47San||Awaythe one I posted?
15:13:48San||Awayyes
15:14:02San||AwayI am sanitarium
15:14:26saa[b_r]idercool... oh, too many san−− nicks :D
15:14:33San||Awaylol
15:14:47Membrillois it just me or are the RB forums down
15:14:57saa[b_r]ideryeah, they're not back yet
15:14:59San||Awayyeah., they are down
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15:15:07Sanitariumbetter?
15:15:13saa[b_r]idermerci :)
15:15:15Membrillogood good
15:15:15Sanitarium:P
15:15:26Membrillonow thats settled, im off to make a pot of tea
15:15:47muesli_-re
15:15:57saa[b_r]idermembrillo: good idea!
15:16:02MoosHello muesli
15:16:07XavierGrSanitarium: Give use a pic of it.
15:16:13Sanitariumok
15:16:15muesli_-hi Moos
15:16:24Sanitariumit is just red on blue
15:17:22Moosmuesli: did you see the World cup groupes?
15:17:45muesli_-yepp, i did...germany was in luck ;)
15:18:03Moosis France too :)
15:19:16muesli_-who is in their group?
15:19:50MoosTogo, Switzerland, South Korea
15:20:12muesli_-lol
15:20:29Mooslike for Germany apear like one easy group
15:20:59muesli_-but south korea isnt meant to be underestimated
15:21:13muesli_-they are quit fast and dangerous
15:21:25Moosyes normally for all teams is the soccer rules
15:21:46Moosbut the Worl Cup is the sumum of states wining
15:22:00Moosall teams wanted to make the best
15:22:10Moosbut... :)
15:22:22Sanitariumhttp://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5734/snakecolor7gn.png
15:22:33Sanitariumthere XavierGr
15:23:09XavierGrok thanks
15:23:16Moostime for me to back again in my brain medicin works, c you guys
15:23:36XavierGranyone with an archos unit here?
15:24:00muesli_-cya Moos
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15:24:06saa[b_r]idersanitarium: good job
15:24:10Sanitariumty
15:24:22Sanitariumhttp://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3263/pongcolor5gd.png
15:24:24SanitariumPONG^^
15:24:34muesli_-wohoo :D
15:25:16Febspreglow, the UDA1380 datasheet indicates that the edge frequency for treble boost can be either 1.5kHz or 3kHz. Do you happen to know which Rockbox uses?
15:25:17muesli_-its getting colorful :D
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15:25:24Sanitariumlol
15:26:03saa[b_r]iderbtw, has any H300 user tried the Jpeg patch or plug-in?
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15:28:13NightCatHello you lot!
15:28:25saa[b_r]iderhi NightCat
15:28:49NightCatHave somebody here the Windoz CygWin?
15:29:07NightCatWich was built for this guide: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler
15:30:02NightCatI spent all day yesterday trying to do this compiler: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment
15:30:11NightCatAnd it doesn't work :)
15:30:18Tomas_download the devkit...
15:30:20NightCatI need help...
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15:30:59t0mashttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/Win32_DevKit/RockBox-DevKit_v314.exe
15:31:05NightCatI think devkit is not the right behavior for the developer...
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15:31:07t0masthat will install cygwin + all the tools you need
15:31:26t0masno, it's not... but if you can't get it to work in an other way...
15:31:51NightCatWhy? What about this way: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler
15:32:05t0masI used that way... but in Linux
15:32:18t0masand compiling gcc-m68k-elf in linux is easy...
15:32:23XavierGrt0mas do you have an archos?
15:32:29t0masno
15:32:30preglowFebs: no idea
15:32:41NightCatI know... but I'm a windoz...
15:32:42t0masXavierGr: only an Iriver H120
15:32:45Sanitariumbrb
15:32:49Sanitariumgotta restart
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15:32:54t0masNightCat: then just use the devkit...
15:32:55XavierGrok thanks anyway
15:33:08t0masdon't spend to much time compiling your compiler...
15:33:08NightCatI want it: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler
15:33:18t0masgoodluck then...
15:33:34NightCatAnd I'm looking for some help with this :)
15:33:56NightCatOr all windoz developers here use a devkit?
15:34:22preglowlinuxstb: so, are we getting the same error?
15:34:48NightCatWho knows, what difference in devkit and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler?
15:34:57t0masnot much...
15:35:03t0masdevkit is just that + other tools
15:35:32XavierGrcygwin has many more tppls than devkit.
15:35:53XavierGr^tools
15:36:06NightCatHm... Ok I'll try the devkit one more time (I tried it already.) and then :)
15:36:47NightCatI somebody could and want to help my with windoz crosscompiler, please do it! :)
15:37:04t0maswarning...
15:37:12t0masfirst remove cygwin etc. then install the devkit
15:37:24t0masthey sometimes bite eachother
15:37:31NightCatYes I know, thx :)
15:38:07NightCatI already have approx. 100 mb of installation files on my PC trying to get it work :)
15:38:19t0mas:)
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15:38:58NightCatIn what countries are you all live guys?
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15:39:07Sanback
15:39:07NightCatI mean I'm from Russia :)
15:39:08t0masThe Netherlands
15:39:09San:D
15:39:17NightCatSan: HI
15:39:38NightCat(PS: It's just my interest :))
15:39:43Sanhey
15:40:11NightCatSan: I couldn't chage the colors yesterday :'(
15:40:20Sanin what?
15:40:31NightCatSan: In LCD.h...
15:40:50Sandid you change the RGB values?
15:40:51NightCatBecause of non working cygwin...
15:40:56Sanoh
15:41:08saa[b_r]iderNightcat: live in china, from saudi arabia
15:41:10NightCatIt works on sim but not on DAP
15:42:15NightCatI have an beauty black backgraund and blue text :)
15:42:40Sannice
15:42:57NightCatSan: Are you a Linux one?
15:43:11Sansomethimes
15:43:14San*times
15:43:31NightCatSan: I mean what compiler are you use?
15:43:52saa[b_r]iderNightCat: can you post a capture from the simulator of your new colors?
15:44:02Sanlinux when i'm on linux, and cygwin when i'm on windows
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15:44:40NightCatSan: I want to install this http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler on windoz but don't know how...
15:46:11NightCatsaa[b_r]ider: wait a moment :)
15:46:20saa[b_r]iderthanks
15:47:30linuxstbpreglow: No, I don't get stkov, the bootloader screen remains displayed, even though (I think) Rockbox has started.
15:48:25linuxstbBut I've got to go now. bbl.
15:52:28g33is there any good wlan musicplayer with optical output?
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15:57:13Sanitariumwhats the resolution of the H100 screen>
15:57:14Sanitarium?
15:57:20t0mas160x128
15:57:26t0masiirc
15:57:39Sanitariumty
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15:58:25gursikhhello
15:58:52gursikhAre we aware the forums are down?
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16:00:05preglowman, bejeweled is fun
16:01:59muesli_-it makes damn addicted ;)
16:02:16saa[b_r]iderand it's so cool in full color :)
16:02:17muesli_-i hate rotador for that ;)
16:02:37muesli_-saa[b_r]ider could oyu take a screenie?
16:03:13NightCatsaa[b_r]ider: Where can I post my screen?
16:03:44Sanitariumanyone know why in rockbox the highest volume is 0 and the lowest is 100?
16:03:44NightCatYes forums are dead...
16:04:10muesli_-NightCat try http://imageshack.us/
16:04:13NightCatSanitarium: Its in db "-100 db - 0 db"
16:04:20Sanitariumoooh, ok
16:04:26Sanitariumcan I change that?
16:04:27Philip___its now in decibels... iirc 0 being line volume....
16:04:29Philip___tooo
16:04:31Philip___slow
16:04:46Sanitariumphillip, i made various plugins in color now
16:04:46Sanitarium:D
16:04:59Philip___me/ must lern to type!!
16:05:04Sanitariumlol
16:05:09saa[b_r]idermuesli: sure, do you use an H100?
16:05:10Philip___damn :(
16:05:29muesli_-saa[b_r]ider still yes..but i'll change to a h3xx soon
16:06:00muesli_-http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5838980199&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT seems to me a great deal
16:06:06Philip___San: what plugins have you made?
16:06:12saa[b_r]idercool, let me grab a screen dump
16:06:39NightCatOk Here it is: http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/9162/lcd6vq.png
16:07:22Sanitariumphilip, color snake and color pong
16:07:49Philip___cool are they available to download??
16:07:56Sanitariumyes
16:07:56saa[b_r]iderNightCat: WOW!
16:08:20NightCatSanitarium snake or snake 2?
16:08:43NightCatsaa[b_r]ider: Yes :)
16:09:10NightCatsaa[b_r]ider: I had sn green version (now it's dead :) ) it was very nice too :)
16:09:11saa[b_r]idernightcat: but still no luck getting it to work on your H300?
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16:09:32NightCatsaa[b_r]ider: ;'(
16:09:40NightCatsaa[b_r]ider: Yes...
16:09:53NightCatsaa[b_r]ider: only booting and then going down...
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16:10:29Febsamiconn, are you around?
16:11:32^BeN^i nees some help i c
16:11:37^BeN^need
16:11:41^BeN^in
16:11:42saa[b_r]iderNightCat: looks like the Philips display, very nice!
16:11:59saa[b_r]iderwish you luck getting it to work
16:12:10NightCatsaa[b_r]ider: and the booting screen: http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/2024/lcd27fb.png
16:12:38Philip___yes that does look very nice
16:12:40saa[b_r]idermuesli: is that H320 brand new, or used?
16:13:20muesli_-that one was new
16:13:33NightCatSan: Where we can down your plugins?
16:13:42Sanin the thread on misticriver
16:13:50NightCatOk
16:14:08muesli_-saa[b_r]ider but i dont know if its the crippled us version
16:14:13Sanhttp://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=33248
16:14:16Santhere ^^
16:14:33^BeN^san can u help me for a miment?
16:14:35^BeN^moment
16:15:46saa[b_r]iderBejeweled in full color http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bejeweled7oz.png
16:16:20muesli_-saa[b_r]ider sweet :D
16:16:31muesli_-especially that frog ;)
16:16:39^BeN^the Bejeweled is boring
16:16:44^BeN^=\
16:16:55NightCatWich GCC I have to down?
16:17:00saa[b_r]iderBen: which game do you like?
16:17:05NightCatdown mean download :)
16:17:12^BeN^solitare
16:17:23NightCat4.0.x or 3.4.4?
16:17:27^BeN^but i want it larger than =\
16:17:44^BeN^imean
16:17:50^BeN^larger than from now
16:17:59saa[b_r]iderBen: if you're using an H300, there's a new plug-in with increased size
16:18:08^BeN^right
16:18:21^BeN^but the pictures on the cards
16:18:25^BeN^still small
16:18:33saa[b_r]ideroh, haven't tried it yet
16:19:02saa[b_r]iderdid anyone use Rockboy? (not a question about speed!)
16:19:11mirak#define MYLCD(fn) rb->lcd_ ## fn what does it means exactly ?
16:19:28mirakit's functon that takes another function as argument ?
16:19:40^BeN^some help in c? =\
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16:20:38NightCatsaa[b_r]ider: I :)
16:22:49saa[b_r]iderNightcat: is it already bundled with the current daily builds, or do I need to download the plug-in?
16:23:21frederic_Hi, I added a hint to glob.exe and it's usage to the wiki GaplessHowTo page. Glob can automaticly send a number of files in the right order to lame for gapless encoding with −−nogap. Hope you are happy with the addition...
16:24:32saa[b_r]iderNightCat: oh, it's already there....
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16:34:31muesli_-how often is rockbox.iriver modified? with every update?
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16:35:04^BeN^where is the
16:35:06^BeN^#define LCD_WIDTH
16:35:07^BeN^?
16:35:07^BeN^=\
16:46:36Sanitariumshould be somewhere near the top
16:47:09^BeN^but where
16:47:13^BeN^idont find it
16:48:20Sanitariumctrl+f
16:49:36^BeN^but in which file
16:49:53Sanitariumwhat are you looking for?
16:50:26^BeN^i want to know the size in pixels of the lcd
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16:51:00Sanitarium220 x 176
16:51:26HooliganWell, what platform are you talking about?
16:51:34^BeN^h300
16:51:37^BeN^he knows =]
16:51:43HooliganAh, then yeah :P
16:51:52^BeN^10x u
16:52:09^BeN^i try to resize rockblox for all the screen
16:52:22^BeN^BRB
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16:52:52dropandhohey all...did anyone notice the forums seem to be down?
16:52:56HooliganI've been trying to apply that vertical patch for Rockblox, but I always seem to get a compile error. Tell me if you get a working .rock :P
16:53:21Mmmmdropand hop: yep annoying eh?
16:53:29dropandhohehe- ill survive
16:53:36HooliganTo Misticriver!
16:53:38dropandhojust wanted to report the problem
16:54:40dropandhothe forums are backed up tho- right?
16:54:44NightCatdropandho: Yes...
16:55:00dropandhophew- i just didnt want another wiki incident
16:55:03NightCatdropandho: I mean about down...
16:55:36NightCatdropandho: Sorry but i don't know about bcking up...
16:55:46dropandhook
16:56:19NightCatdropandho: But I think after that incident that was they have to backups it every day :)
16:56:30dropandhohehe- phew!
16:56:46dropandhook- i need to run
16:56:48dropandhotalk late
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17:06:02linuxstbpreglow: (I'm back). When do you get your stkov - is it immediately when Rockbox starts?
17:06:02NightCatWho wants a patch that change LCD colors: background => black, black => blue, white => green :)
17:06:59HooliganSay, that sounds like fun!
17:07:11HooliganOr unreadable. I guess we'll see.
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17:08:12NightCatWhere can i post my file?
17:08:19NightCatNot img...
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17:13:15***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
17:13:17HooliganSo, is there anything in the way of RB having customizable colors besides coding it?
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17:13:34Sanitariumi am working on a plugin for that
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17:13:54NightCatSanitarium: You a very good guy :)
17:14:05Sanitariumty :D
17:14:06NightCatSanitarium: You do a lot of progress alone :)
17:14:12NightCatSanitarium>: Thx!
17:14:20Sanitariumnp
17:14:27HooliganSanitarium: Very nice. I suppose it never hurts to ask :P
17:15:02Sanitariumit seems very easy
17:15:19Sanitariumi can get it to change color, but not keep it
17:15:27NightCatYes, Likedeveloping win32 applications on Linux machine :)
17:15:48HooliganHaha. Now that's just painful.
17:16:19HooliganAnd masochistic
17:16:34NightCatSanitarium: Could you ask anybody, how to save this option?
17:16:41HooliganThat's what geeks do in prison on hacking charges.
17:16:45preglowlinuxstb: immideately
17:17:45linuxstbHave you looked into it at all?
17:17:50NightCatThe only thind that I hate a lot is that it all builds veeeery slowly...
17:17:51preglowno, but will soon
17:17:54preglowgot some other coding going
17:18:07linuxstbnp. I'm trying to fix it now.
17:18:17t0mashm...
17:18:34preglowit's a bit strange that i get a stkov
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17:18:44preglowbut i've also got a modified crt0.S that might be playing tricks
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17:18:51t0masI have a struct... with an array with bools in it (like this: struct a { int x; bool y[10]; };
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17:18:59t0masbut I can't set all values at once...
17:19:01t0maslike this:
17:19:13t0masa.y = {true, true, true, false, ....};
17:19:29t0masis there a better way?
17:19:34linuxstbpreglow: Maybe I'm getting a stkov as well, but I'm just not seeing it for some reason.
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17:22:16SanitariumWHat should I call the Plugin?
17:22:17tucozlinuxstb, I found out how to use the optional package in LaTeX
17:22:26preglowtucoz: is it easy?
17:22:35tucozpreglow, yes
17:22:41preglowthat is, is it better than using the c preprocessor?
17:22:51tucozexample
17:22:56HooliganSanitarium: Something simple, e.g. colorswitcher
17:23:24SanitariumRockColor?
17:23:27linuxstbpreglow: I wonder if this has something to do with a completely unrelated recent change. I still get the same crash even if I undefine CONFIG_RTC
17:23:45tucoz /usepackage{optional} in preamble.tex, in rockbox.tex: /opt{iriver}{/include{/rockbox_file.tex}}
17:24:13preglowok, so we'll just end up with huge opt sections
17:24:17HooliganRockColor sounds good.
17:24:18tucozthen during compile, you get to say iriver, and the rockbox_file.tex is included
17:24:31tucozpreglow, seems like it
17:24:34preglowyup, we'll probably put code in the opt as well
17:24:39preglows/as well/instead/
17:24:40preglowbut ok
17:24:41NightCatAnd I run My Black and Blue RB now!
17:24:51tucozpreglow, or we could have target specific files
17:24:59preglowtucoz: too much will be shared
17:25:05tucoztrue
17:25:11preglowtucoz: like just a few button names differing between targets
17:25:13Sanitariumwhat is the left button called in the source?
17:25:19SanitariumBUTTON_LEFT ?
17:25:24preglowtucoz: but ok, what content do you have in the latex manual as of now?
17:25:25NightCatIt looks awesome instead of white and black :)
17:25:37tucozpreglow, It is a real PITA to work with the writer2latex output
17:25:55linuxstbSanitarium: Yes, but you shouldn't really use the BUTTON_??? defines directly. Which part of Rockbox are you working on?
17:25:57HooliganNightCat: Share! You're keeping me in suspense.
17:26:10tucozpreglow, all the chapters up to, but not including plugins from the 2.4 manual
17:26:12NightCatWhere can I put it?
17:26:24preglowtucoz: aah, so you're adapting the real manual, that's excellent
17:26:33NightCatAnd when it became not blinking pictures?
17:26:43Sanitariumplugins linuxstb
17:26:51NightCatThe picts are not blinks at all on my WPS :)
17:26:58tucozpreglow, it doesn't look too good, but it's only in the transfer phase atm.
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17:27:22preglowtucoz: looks aren't important, as long as we get the content
17:27:26preglowthe looks can always be fixed
17:27:31tucozyes
17:27:37tucozhttp://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/rockbox.pdf
17:27:44tucozYou could always have a look there
17:27:53tucozlooks like crap though.
17:28:27preglowlooks far better than i'd though
17:28:29preglowt
17:28:33tucozAll the stuff is included in http://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/manual.zip
17:28:36preglowwhat matters is that the code is logically structured
17:28:44preglowbut excellent work
17:28:59tucozpreglow, yes, it is a nice build system. I included a README in the manual.zip
17:29:39linuxstbtucoz: Have you looked to see if there are other OO to LaTeX converters available? Maybe others will do a better job.
17:30:13tucozlinuxstb, no, I haven't. It almost feels like copy and paste from plain text works better.
17:30:20preglowtable formatting is a bit weird
17:30:22preglowbut we'll fix that
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17:30:37tucozpreglow, yes, writer2latex does some strange stuff
17:30:59preglowbut like i said: the content and logical structure is what is most important, the rest we can fix later
17:31:07tucozlike include a \foreignlanguage{english}{:} if it finds a :
17:31:16NightCatSomebody, please say, where can I post my files in the internet?
17:31:16preglowhahaha
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17:31:50AcksawHey
17:31:58linuxstbNightCat: Why don't you start a forum thread at mistic river?
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17:32:14SanitariumNightCat
17:32:19SanitariumRapidShare.de
17:32:24tucozanyway, I do not think I will have the time to work that much more on this atm. I just leave the files on the web-server, for somebody else to pick up.
17:33:03NightCatlinuxstb: cause it's to erlier for me :) Sanitarium: Thx :)
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17:33:11tucozpreglow, regarding the tables, they are look very weird in the tex files as well :D
17:33:49preglowthat's what i was referring to, heh
17:34:20tucozalso, I couldn't find out how to include png or jpg files to the document. the logo is a eps file. But it is doable (jpg and png) so, I guess I did something wrong
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17:35:20Coldtoasthowdy
17:35:33HooliganHowdy, Cowboy
17:35:47Sanitarium:P
17:35:49HooliganPut up your boots and join us for a round of poker and whisky
17:35:57ColdtoastI use the text viewer a lot and it occurs to me that it'd be good if the remote still controlled music playback while viewing a text file
17:36:27Coldtoastto the player buttons control the text viewer and the remote controls music playback
17:36:36Coldtoastto the player=so the player
17:37:47Sanitariumfor the H300 or H100?
17:37:48NightCatHooligan: Take it: http://rapidshare.de/files/8989040/lcd.h.zip.html
17:37:57ColdtoastI have a h140
17:38:30HooliganNightCat: Much obliged :)
17:39:36Coldtoastit's a bit of a pain when using the text viewer if a track starts you don't like and you have to leave the text viewer to skip tracks. Even if you just wanted to adjust the vlolume, you have to leave the text viewer to do it
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17:40:40tucozpreglow, regarding the structuring. We could maybe keep the files (chapter-files) as is, and maybe extract the tables and target specific stuff to their own files. and do a opt on those.
17:41:55preglowtucoz: i think we should keep the structuring and files as is. as for opts, i think and hope we will get away with making macros in opt parts, then having general code outside that
17:42:07tucozok
17:42:09preglowlike defining button name macros in an opt, and using it outside
17:42:22preglowmore or less just like we do in the code, really
17:42:36tucozI see, yes that would work.
17:43:07preglowi don't have any preferences but avoiding the duplication of text and tables
17:43:42tucozAs for the manual at the moment. I only wanted it to compile, therefore it might look a little ugly. hehe
17:44:14preglowsure, no worries
17:44:18tucozNo hacks to get it work though
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17:44:44tucozok, good. Got to go. See you.
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17:46:10Acksawhas anyoen changed there battery in there h300?
17:46:15Acksawhere that is
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17:50:49NightCatPeople! Who works on PREWENT CLIPPING?
17:50:59preglowNO ONE!
17:51:12HooliganJESUS!
17:51:18preglowWHERE!
17:51:25HooliganBEHIND YOU!
17:51:29preglowOMFG!
17:51:29CtcpIgnored 2 channel CTCP requests in 9 hours and 9 minutes at the last flood
17:51:29*Hooligan runs
17:51:47*Cassandra puts here earplugs in.
17:52:03linuxstbpreglow: I've just tested yesterday's CVS, and that crashes the same way. So I think it may be an unrelated change.
17:52:15preglowlinuxstb: sure seems like it
17:52:20*preglow wants a debugger
17:52:31*Hooligan wants a pony
17:52:42*Cassandra hands preglow gdb.
17:52:45NightCatThere was a Prewent Clipping option in the menu and now it's gone... :(
17:52:50*linuxstb wonders if he can download old daily builds for the ipod...
17:52:54CassandraWell, you didn't specify that it had to be useful for you.
17:53:26preglowNightCat: been living under a rock, have you?
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17:55:51NightCatpreglow: Not only...
17:55:59preglowit was removed quite some time ago
17:56:02NightCatpreglow: This option is very good thing... I want it BACK!!!
17:56:06preglowpeople nearly spontaneously combusted
17:56:22preglowNightCat: how do you use it?
17:56:27NightCatWhere can I change it to back?
17:57:02NightCatpreglow: I set it to Off sometimes and I have a good earphones that doesn't clipping at all...
17:57:12preglowNightCat: off is now default
17:57:33preglowNightCat: not only default, but the only option
17:57:43NightCatpreglow: Really? When I listen it now it's a different...
17:57:51preglowNightCat: this kind of clipping doesn't depend on your earphones
17:57:59preglowNightCat: well, then you weren't using 'off'
17:58:26NightCatSecond
17:59:06Sanwoah, thats a big error I got
17:59:07San:\
17:59:11Sananyway, GTG
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17:59:40NightCatpreglow: Hm... It seem you'r right :)
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18:00:09NightCatpreglow: Loud music came back :)
18:01:51NightCatHow to use this "* linuxstb wonders if he can download old daily builds for the ipod..." things on IRC? (I mean different color text)
18:02:07preglow/me
18:02:15linuxstbNightCat: I typed "/me wonders if he...."
18:02:28NightCatThanks!
18:03:05*NightCat plugs the earphones and flys away...
18:03:34Coldtoastyou can do the same thign with "/action wonders if..."
18:03:43NightCatWhat is Crossfeed (not crossfade)? What does it do?
18:03:44Acksawcan anyone tell me if this will work in my h320? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/High-Capacity-2200mAh-Battery-iPod-1st-Generation-1G_W0QQitemZ5837508918QQcategoryZ48680QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
18:04:11ColdtoastI know that'll work in a h140 :)
18:04:15preglowNightCat: crossfeed mixes a bit of left into right, and right into left
18:04:20preglowNightCat: to simulate listening over speaker
18:04:21preglows
18:04:45NightCatThx :)
18:05:46NightCatAcksaw: There was a guy on our forum who change his accum to 2200 and HDD to 60 gig :)
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18:07:00Acksawi need know if it works
18:07:10Emis this the firmware project ? and is there a problem with the site, or is that on my end ?
18:07:22Coldtoastwanna see something TOTALLY insane?
18:07:30Coldtoasthttp://cgi.ebay.com.au/TOSHIBA-MK4004GAH-40GB-1-8_W0QQitemZ8712100364QQcategoryZ162QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
18:07:34NightCatAcksaw: Wait some time whily forum became working :)
18:07:43Coldtoastthey want $320 for a fricken 40GB drive
18:08:16peturbuy a 60GB and sell your 40GB
18:08:18ColdtoastHAH! and another $90US to ship to my country
18:08:22Coldtoastwhat a moron
18:09:46NightCatMaybe this helps: http://search.ebay.com.au/60GB-1-8_W0QQfromZR40QQsatitleZ60GBQ201Q2e8
18:10:00Acksawyou can put a 40gb dual platter in a h320
18:10:05ColdtoastI'm goign to send this guy a message
18:10:24NightCatAcksaw: You can put a 60 gig too :)
18:10:26Coldtoastask him why he's charging $70 more than what the drives retail for
18:10:44NightCatColdtoast: Just forget it :)
18:10:49Coldtoastnah
18:11:08Acksawnightcat
18:11:10Acksawyou found it?
18:11:42NightCatYes :)
18:11:56NightCathttp://search.ebay.com.au/60GB-1-8_W0QQfromZR40QQsatitleZ60GBQ201Q2e8
18:12:36peturdoes anybody know if there is some code/plugin available to test LCD performance (fps)?
18:12:37Acksawlink?
18:13:02NightCatYes
18:13:15NightCatIt's EBay search result :)
18:13:23Emall right. this isn't ported to my player anyways. thanks.
18:13:25 Part Em ("right then.")
18:13:59NightCatpetur: for what?
18:14:15Acksawi was on about the h320 battery walkthrough
18:14:27peturmore LCD driver study. I'm trying to get the speed up a bit...
18:14:52NightCatpetur: there is now blinking anymore :)
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18:15:18NightCatnow=no :)
18:15:24peturmain display?
18:15:28peturH3xx?
18:15:33NightCatYes :)
18:15:47peturweird, I tried that patch yesterday and it didn't help
18:16:00NightCat6 dynamic pictures and no blinking :)
18:16:08Acksawnightcat have you found it?
18:16:17NightCatpetur: I DON'T USE THE PETCH!!!
18:16:27NightCat*PATCH
18:16:42peturAlready did a cvs update
18:16:49_FireFly_petur: hmm maybe another patch which gots also commited solves the problem together with my patch
18:17:13peturyou mean the lcd update rect?
18:17:23NightCatI just done a cvs update (no changes) and make a buil :)
18:17:46_FireFly_petur: could be
18:17:52NightCatIt was done about 1 hour ago.
18:18:20NightCatAnd it was a clear source (without changes)
18:18:28peturwould surprise me, even though it wasn't my code, I tested it yesterday and created the patch.
18:18:59*petur must learn not to attach his H340 too fast, bootloader usb doen't work
18:19:47NightCatAcksaw: maybe this: http://search.ebay.com.au/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=2200+mah
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18:20:35saa[b_r]iderbtw, the 60 GB fits only in the H340... for the H320, it's possible to fit the double platter 40 GB
18:20:37Acksawnightcat...
18:20:46Acksawits the walkthrough i want..
18:20:52NightCatAcksaw: no... You have to ask that guy in our forum...
18:20:52Coldtoasthey wow! I just discovered a new Windows keyboard shortcut; CTRL+ALT+NUMPAD .
18:21:12NightCatAnd what?
18:21:13Coldtoastopens the task manager
18:21:14petur40 and 60 GB double platter drives are identical in size afaik
18:21:16Acksawthis is what you said [17:05] <NightCat> Acksaw: There was a guy on our forum who change his accum to 2200 and HDD to 60 gig :)
18:21:30Coldtoastsame as ctrl+shift+escape
18:21:34Coldtoastanyway
18:21:43NightCatAcksaw: yes...
18:22:20Weazel_is the forum down?
18:22:25_FireFly_yepp
18:22:26NightCatYes...
18:22:28Weazel_ok
18:23:01NightCatAcksaw: This guy also was at misticriver forum :)
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18:24:10muesli_-re
18:24:19peturNightCat: what wps are you using (that doesn't blink)?
18:24:32NightCatMy own :)
18:24:46muesli_-well..am i blinded? cant see that volume/bass adjustment thing under sound settings anymore. was is reverted?
18:25:05muesli_-it
18:25:31NightCatmuesli: There is a bass option...
18:25:39PaulJis the inverse lcd mode supposed to work on h320?
18:25:48muesli_-NightCat nah..not that one
18:25:52peturnot implemented yet I think
18:26:01muesli_-prevent clipping was its name i guess
18:26:06_FireFly_muesli_-: do you mean the prevent-clipping option ??
18:26:11muesli_-yepp
18:26:13_FireFly_that was reverted
18:26:14PaulJmuesli_-: this option is gone
18:26:17linuxstbpreglow: Ignore what I said earlier, it seems to be my commit this morning that broke it.
18:26:21Coldtoasthey
18:26:27muesli_-hum???
18:26:29muesli_-damn it
18:26:35Coldtoastwith the prevent cliping option, at full voloume, will bass be flat?
18:26:39_FireFly_now no clipping prevention is made
18:26:41muesli_-yepp
18:26:53Coldtoasti.e. if I put the volume at 0db, will adjusting bass have no effect?
18:27:06_FireFly_Coldtoast: it will now
18:27:18Coldtoastit will now? as in it will now have no effect?
18:27:25_FireFly_becuase no adjustmnet is done to prevent clipping
18:27:27muesli_-this is really annoying :( if you're going be train you need no bass
18:27:30Coldtoastoh
18:27:39Coldtoastso there's no clipping prevention any more at all?
18:27:43_FireFly_yepp
18:27:48Coldtoastok. thanks
18:27:55muesli_-suxx
18:27:57muesli_-:(((((((
18:28:05ColdtoastI thought you jsut changed it to be the same as the iriver fw
18:28:12DrMoosjust the ReplayGain one, if Rg taged ;)
18:28:33Coldtoastoh, I'm fine with it as it is now
18:28:46preglowlinuxstb: well, ok, that's kind of comforting, i guess ;)
18:28:59PaulJi miss the prevent clipping option
18:29:21muesli_-2nd this
18:29:22 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m196.net81-66-159.noos.fr)
18:30:33muesli_-i mean there was no need to revert it
18:30:39muesli_-it worked perfect
18:30:46muesli_-and was usefull
18:31:12PaulJmuesli_-: read the dev-mailinglist from december
18:31:54muesli_-sorry, where do i get it?
18:32:01_FireFly_mailing-list
18:32:13_FireFly_link on rockbox.org then rockbox-dev ml
18:32:23PaulJhttp://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2005-12/
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18:43:31NightCatPeople, what about changing HOLD state?
18:43:41pregloweh?
18:43:46NightCatHold works but don't display...
18:44:13peturstill used to the iRiver FW?
18:44:17NightCatI use %mh in WPS...
18:44:29peturah that..
18:44:47NightCatYeah that :)
18:45:02NightCatIt not very beauty...
18:45:18NightCatIt's a small bug could someone fix?
18:45:55_FireFly_how do you use the %mh tag
18:46:46NightCatSecond
18:47:12NightCat%?mh<%xds|%xdr>
18:47:16NightCatAnd
18:47:17NightCat%?mr<%xdu|%xdt>
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18:48:51_FireFly_have you tried to display an text instead images ??
18:49:03_FireFly_maybe the images wasn't loaded correctly
18:49:23NightCatIt's not an image bug it's an old hold bug...
18:49:34_FireFly_please try it
18:49:36NightCatJust forget to implement it... in H300...
18:49:42NightCatsecond.
18:50:35_FireFly_is the hold displayed in the statusbar ??
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18:51:02NightCatHm yes...
18:51:09linuxstbpreglow: Can you try commenting out the yield() at line 53 of firmware/drivers/i2c-pp5020.c ? That seems to fix my problems, but I don't understand why.
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18:51:54NightCatNightCat: Works in status bar but not in WPS.
18:52:05NightCat_FireFly_: Works in status bar but not in WPS.
18:52:34NightCat_FireFly_: Even with text always shows one state...
18:54:23NightCatIdeas?
18:54:41_FireFly_if the h300-sim runs under linux i will test it with my wps
18:55:34_FireFly_hm wait how can i simulate the hold button under the sim
18:55:39linuxstb_FireFly_: The X11 sim doesn't have any colour, but the win32 sim works OK under Wine (apart from some keymapping problems)
18:56:21NightCatAnd what about this problem? In witch file this code exists?
18:56:21_FireFly_i don't need color for this ;)
18:56:30NightCatI mean the WPS parsing...
18:56:58_FireFly_i found it
18:57:28_FireFly_it isn't activated for the h300
18:57:48NightCatHe-he :)
18:57:55NightCatWhere is it?
18:58:06NightCatI can try it....
18:58:28preglowlinuxstb: okies
18:58:56_FireFly_gwps-common.c:608
18:59:05_FireFly_change the ifdef to #if CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H100_PAD || (CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H300_PAD)
18:59:10_FireFly_from #if CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H100_PAD
18:59:51preglowlinuxstb: weird...
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19:00:07linuxstbIs it working now?
19:00:10preglowyes
19:00:24preglowthat is, it crashes now
19:00:27preglowwhich it didn't before
19:00:32preglowbut now i don't stkov anymore
19:00:46linuxstbWhen does it crash?
19:01:00preglowabout a second or so in the file viewer
19:01:10preglowbut that's probably my code
19:01:18linuxstbDoes it display the clock in the corner?
19:01:40NightCat_FireFly_: ???
19:01:41preglowwhich corner?
19:01:52_FireFly_gwps-common.c line 608
19:02:02preglowno, it doesn't
19:02:04preglowlocks before that
19:02:10preglowdoes the rtc generate interrupts?
19:02:14_FireFly_NightCat: the line looks liek this : #if CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H100_PAD
19:02:15NightCat_FireFly_: I found it.
19:02:19_FireFly_NightCat: change it to #if CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H100_PAD || (CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H300_PAD)
19:02:21linuxstbpreglow: Maybe...
19:02:27NightCatLine: #if CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H100_PAD
19:02:28preglowoh well
19:02:35preglowbut i need to go see if there's some food around here, i'm starving
19:02:36preglowbrb
19:02:42linuxstbOK.
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19:02:55NightCatTrying.
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19:06:10NightCat_FireFly_: Ok, now it works :) Thx!
19:06:25NightCatIt should be commited... I think...
19:07:34NightCatIs there some ability to know is the remote connected or not?
19:07:50_FireFly_if you mean an wps-tag then no
19:09:00NightCatNow I mean the hardware ability at all.
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19:09:20NightCatIs RB knows the remote is connected to it?
19:09:26_FireFly_yepp
19:09:27LearI think the function is in button.c...
19:09:57linuxstb_FireFly_: Are you saying that line 608 of gui/gwps-common.c should have the IRIVER_H300_PAD added to the condition?
19:10:13NightCatlinuxstb; Yes!
19:10:22NightCatlinuxstb: And yes again :)
19:10:25_FireFly_linuxstb: yepp
19:10:59_FireFly_the used functions are already "activated" for the h300 only the tags wasn't
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19:11:21linuxstbOK, that seems uncontroversial :) I'll commit it now.
19:11:25_FireFly_:)
19:12:37linuxstbDone.
19:12:49NightCatGood :)
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19:13:38NightCat_FireFly_: What about remote connecting?
19:13:45_FireFly_??
19:14:12NightCat_FireFly_: I want to use it in WPS :)
19:15:48_FireFly_currently no way
19:16:12NightCatOk
19:20:09muesli_-_FireFly_ my i140 is now loud as hell and clipps as hell :-/
19:21:24_FireFly_muesli_-: then recduce the volume and/or the bass/treble
19:21:39_FireFly_:)
19:21:51muesli_-sure..but the old prevent clipping version was working perfect
19:21:53muesli_-:-/
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19:25:02peturhehe, getting 11.5 FPS, now I need to add the CPU freq to know what this means...
19:25:38NightCatpetur: How did you get fps?
19:25:53peturwrote a little plugin to measure ;)
19:26:19PaulJmuesli_-: in order to prevent clipping you must now manually reduce bass/treble if bassboost+volume>=0 or trebleboost+volume>=0
19:26:21peturjust a 30 minute hack, needs to be refined...
19:26:34NightCathe-he
19:26:49peturbut: my first plugin and it compiled and ran from the first try!
19:27:26NightCatHappy guy...
19:27:37muesli_-PaulJ thats the point..i have to do it manually..for every song, every album...imho these are more than 10steps back
19:28:02PaulJmuesli_-: i agree
19:28:25peturhmmm if I click the buttons a lot, my FPS counter goes up. Do they boost the cpu?
19:29:15muesli_-petur are you watching a movie on an iriver?
19:29:37peturno, testing how fast LCD updating works...
19:29:39Acksawanyone here who knows alot of PC hardware?
19:30:01muesli_-Acksaw just gimma a try
19:30:15Acksawwell
19:30:19Acksawi wanna build a system
19:30:27Acksawfor about 350
19:30:35Acksawbut i have no idea what to get...
19:30:50Acksawive been looking into 3000 amd athlon but i dont know what to get after that :S
19:31:02Acksawand the site im using to buy the parts is www.overclockers.co.uk
19:31:05muesli_-what do you need? everything?
19:31:19Acksawwell yes
19:31:23Acksawjust the pc though
19:31:26Acksawi got the monitors etc
19:31:51muesli_-well..i get back l8ter...can talk again then...
19:31:58Acksawim looking for like 3000 amd athlon 1gb ram 100gb hdd etc etc
19:32:00Acksawahh ok
19:32:02Acksawwhat time approx?
19:32:08muesli_-1h
19:32:18muesli_-mayb in 30mins
19:32:21Acksawalrighty perfect
19:32:34muesli_-k ;)
19:32:43preglowpfew
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19:32:53preglowis bejeweled adapted to colour screens yet?
19:33:07muesli_-yepp
19:33:21muesli_-just seen a screendump today
19:33:28muesli_-in this channel
19:33:34muesli_-l8er..
19:34:45Acksawbye
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19:35:28preglowhohoh
19:35:31preglowexcellent
19:35:50saa[b_r]iderpreglow: http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bejeweled7oz.png
19:35:56Acksawbejeweleed has been adapted for a week +
19:37:32preglowhaha
19:37:40preglowget hold of some artist so we can have truly fancy bitmaps
19:39:15RotAtoR:( are you making fun of my bejeweled graphics, hehe ;)
19:39:45preglowof course not!
19:39:51preglowbut they could be fancier
19:39:53CassandraI think more than 2 colours'd help with that.
19:40:00preglowhmm
19:40:06preglowi played bejeweled under gnome
19:40:14preglowperhaps you can steal and rescale their bitmaps
19:40:29CassandraThen we could probably nick their icons, since it's likely GPL.
19:40:34RotAtoRyes, they could, but we would need to be able to do transparent colors in full color bitmaps
19:40:57preglowis that a problem?
19:40:59RotAtoRotherwise it would look ugly when swapping jewels
19:41:19RotAtoRthe white "background" would overlap the other jewel
19:41:25CassandraI've suggested a possible way of implementing that in bitmaps to amiconn.
19:41:30preglowyes, sure, but again, it's not a problem
19:41:33_FireFly_a simple solution would be to declare one color as "transparent"
19:41:40preglowone usually uses some absurd shade of pink to mean transparent
19:41:50_FireFly_and this color wouldn*t be drawn to the framebuffer/lcd
19:41:54peturyep, typical soulution
19:42:01peturmost use green or pink
19:42:31RotAtoRthat would be nice for doing color bitmap work in genereal
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19:54:08peturI can do 40 LCD updates per second at 45MHz (H300), but my player crashes hard after 10 seconds :(
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19:57:45preglowoh?
19:58:43*petur adds paperclip to standard toolset
19:59:35peturis there doc about writing plugins (API,...)?
20:00
20:00:06preglowread the hello world plugin
20:00:08preglowsource
20:00:12preglowthen just use plugin.h
20:00:16preglowthe docs are a bit outdated
20:00:22peturknow all that...
20:00:30preglowwell, what more do you want?
20:00:34preglowthat's all you need to know
20:00:40lostlogicyay hold switch
20:00:48peturwhat does rb->button_get_w_tmo() do?
20:01:00preglowget a button, but returns after a given timeout if it got no button
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20:01:16preglowso it doesn't block completely
20:01:30peturare button events queued? so I can just peek from time to time?
20:01:35preglowyes
20:02:04peturhow often must I yield?
20:02:50preglowas often as makes sense
20:02:58preglowif there's a loop, once a loop iteration is fine
20:03:07preglowunless it's a loop with a lot in it, in which case you must do it more often
20:03:17preglowyou'll notice if you don't yield often enougn, rockbox will become sluggish
20:03:39preglowamiconn: btw, mandelbrot will make playback choppy if used too intensively, so it probably needs some more yields
20:03:41peturNot ok to run for 2 seconds without doing any... but it shouldn't crash?
20:03:51preglowespecially if you press select multiple times fast, it'll just block playback
20:04:02preglowpetur: crash no, but wont work like it should
20:04:11peturwhy?
20:04:18preglowbecause the other threads wont run?
20:04:29preglowrockbox itself will just stand by while you're stealing all the cpu
20:04:46peturI just want to measure as exact as possible
20:05:31peturso I have a loop of 2 seconds that doesn't yield
20:05:57peturprobably not very representative measurements anyway
20:06:22peturbut I want to check if optimizations in the lcd area help anything
20:09:49preglowwell, for tests, it doesn't matter
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20:10:08NightCatHey~
20:10:08preglowbut for real life apps, you must never do it
20:10:22peturthat I can understand ;)
20:11:19NightCatJust try 192 KHz 32 bit Wav on H320 and it works :)
20:11:44NightCat30 sec file approx. 50 mb :)
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20:16:53RotAtoRhaha, crazy
20:16:54RotAtoRi wonder if my 6ch, 96khz, 24bit wav files would play... ;)
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20:17:56preglowNightCat: it plays those files?
20:18:12preglowman, they're going to sound so extremely shite
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20:18:38linuxstbpreglow: I didn't think the resampler could handle frequencies > 65535Hz ?
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20:18:47preglowlinuxstb: it can since i implemented playback speed change
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20:19:40_FireFly_wow now the user-list is a bit smaller :)
20:19:40linuxstbI'll test my 24-bit/96KHz FLAC file again then.
20:20:00_FireFly_it looks like an net-split
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20:20:48preglow_FireFly_: nos hit
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20:21:56RotAtoRbut with 6 channels?
20:22:00_FireFly_preglow: nos ??
20:22:03NightCat6 channels what? AC3?
20:22:07NightCatOh Wav...
20:22:07RotAtoRNightCat: yes, surround sound, from dvd-a
20:22:08Acksawwtf just happened?
20:22:08NightCatAnd how it could be?
20:22:08RotAtoR;)
20:22:09RotAtoRAcksaw: netsplit
20:22:09Acksawahh
20:22:09Acksawwtf is that?
20:22:09linuxstbpreglow: 100% boost with my 24-bit/96KHz FLAC file.
20:22:21_FireFly_a connection between two freenode-irc servers got brocken
20:22:24linuxstbBut it's working.
20:22:28_FireFly_@acksaw
20:22:35NicoFRhi nightcat
20:22:41RotAtoRAcksaw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
20:22:42NightCatRotAtoR: then just try it :)
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20:23:58_FireFly_and again
20:23:58NightCatWhat is wuth IRC?
20:23:58NightCatWhere are you all gone?
20:24:10preglowdamn, freenode's a fun place to be today
20:24:15preglowlinuxstb: no surprise
20:24:24NightCatNicoFR: I have black LCD with blue text on my DAP now :)
20:24:37preglowlinuxstb: 32 bit lpc routines, double the decoding complexity, plus resampling on top of it
20:24:37dropandhodarn irc!
20:24:40NicoFRthat's cool
20:24:52NicoFRI read you had some problems building
20:25:00NicoFRwith IllInstr errors
20:25:02CtcpVersion from freenode-connect!freenode@freenode/bot/connect
20:25:02***Server message 477: 'logbot #RockBox :[freenode-info] If you're at a conference, please contact freenode staff to make sure we've made special allowance for many users coming into our network from a single internet address ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp ). Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked, except to network staff, services and participating registered users ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )... Thanks!'
20:25:04NicoFRI got the same
20:25:07linuxstbpreglow: Yep. It's a 2.7Mbit/s FLAC file :)
20:25:07dropandhoany1 here work on the forum at all?
20:25:10NightCatNicoFR: Now they gone!
20:25:19NicoFRyou built the cross compiler ?
20:25:31NightCatNop :)
20:25:58NicoFRI installed the devkit
20:26:05NicoFRworks fine... both normal and sim
20:26:10NightCatNicoFR: Yes i'm too :)
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20:26:37NightCatNicoFR: I forget wich DAP you have?
20:26:48NicoFRh300
20:26:52mikearthuranyone else finding pausing broken on the iRiver?
20:26:55preglowlinuxstb: it might even run with 32 bit asm optimised lpc
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20:27:04NicoFRI think I'm going to give the custom colors a try
20:27:19NightCatWhat you mean?
20:27:38NicoFRchange the foreground and background colors like you did
20:27:44NightCatHave a look? http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/9162/lcd6vq.png
20:28:02linuxstbpreglow: It's averaging about 92% boost, but it does skip briefly in a couple of places. So I'm sure it would be fine with an asm-optimised lpc.
20:28:25NicoFRnice
20:28:55_FireFly_mikearthur: which file-format ??
20:28:59mikearthurmp3 :o
20:29:18mikearthurI used friday's build, and just installed todays, no fix :(
20:29:27mikearthuralthough I see no bug has been files
20:29:29mikearthuralthough I see no bug has been filed
20:29:38Acksawthat rotator
20:29:42Acksawthanks*
20:29:49mikearthurit pauses, then when I resume, it stutters like crazy
20:30:26linuxstbmikearthur: I'm playing (and pausing) an mp3 file now, and it's fine.
20:30:32mikearthurcrazy
20:30:38mikearthurreckon nuke my settings?
20:30:43Acksawany people good at PC hardware?
20:31:02mikearthurAcksaw: what respect?
20:31:13Acksawwell..
20:31:15Acksawno idea :S
20:31:16linuxstbmikearthur: Which options do you have enabled? You could try to disable things like crossfade to see if that isolates the bug.
20:31:22Acksawijust wanna build a new pc
20:31:23linuxstbI have nothing enabled.
20:32:11NightCatI must be off... bye-bye...
20:32:26NicoFRbye
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20:33:27mikearthurworking now
20:33:30dropandhoso there are no forum peeps here?
20:33:30mikearthurmust have been a setting
20:38:18CtcpVersion from freenode-connect!freenode@freenode/bot/connect
20:40:01preglowlinuxstb: but ok, back to ipod, why the hell should that yield have anything to do with a stkov?
20:40:34XavierGrIt seems that rockbox forums are still down....
20:40:59dropandhoxavier- ya...i c that too
20:41:03Acksawis there anyone here good at pc hardware?
20:41:04dropandhodo oyu know who works on them?
20:41:10mikearthurAcksaw: yes
20:41:45Acksawcan you help me then?
20:41:56Acksawto write a list of hardware for my new pc
20:42:30mikearthuryeh, pm
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20:49:13tucoznow the entire 2.4 manual is in LaTeX. Without images though. http://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/rockbox.pdf
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20:49:50tucozThe appendix is also finished, but I didn't get it to compile. All the files are now updated here. http://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/manual.zip
20:50:08tucozThe images from the 2.4 manual is to be found here -> http://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/rockbox-manual-2.4.zip
20:50:20mikearthurtucoz: nice job
20:50:26tucozthanks
20:50:41PaulJis here someone who has the album Hypnotize from System Of A Down?
20:50:42mikearthuraspect ratios are all screwed though
20:51:02tucozmikearthur, yes, the tables need some work. But that should be quite easy
20:51:17tucozWriter2Latex makes some weird stuff with tables.
20:51:32tucozIt is a pain to make the output from writer2latex compile
20:52:18mikearthurwhats writer2latex?
20:52:26mikearthurwhy not just write it all in latex?
20:52:43tucozmikearthur, the 2.4 manual was written in openoffice
20:53:01paranoid_androidis it possible to asist the build -in mic in iriver h3xx and create a voice-to-text program that will be used as rockbox plug-in ,in theory
20:53:26mikearthurin theory yes
20:53:29mikearthurin practise unlikely
20:53:41tucozmikearthur, this is just an attempt to transfer that to latex and to have something that is possible to work with collaboratively.
20:53:44peturcpu too slow I'm affraid
20:53:53tucozthat is, LaTeX is nice in that way
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20:54:25dropandhoim sorry guys!
20:54:44tucozIt would take too much time to write it all over again. I think it is easier to just start with something that looks like crap and to tweak it here and there afterwards
20:55:13tucozAs LaTeX is able to do some pretty good formatting on it's own
20:55:18Acksawmike
20:55:22AcksawYGPM
20:55:39tucoz(the tables from writer2latex are very weird coded)
20:56:25mikearthurAcksaw: ?
20:56:25mikearthurI'll do the next manual in latex if you like
20:56:34mikearthurand, I didn't mean the tables were screwed, the whole thing seems skewed
20:56:40saa[b_r]ideranyone running a simulator with audio working? my H300 W32 sim crashes whenever I load an MP3
20:56:44tucozAnyway, a pretty nice build environment for the LaTeX-docs is to be find in http://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/manual.zip
20:56:51tucozmikearthur, tell me about it
20:57:21mikearthurI'm confused, are you saying you agree, or you want me to explain the problem?
20:57:34tucozmikearthur, I agree
20:57:34dropandhoxavier - any forum word?
20:57:41mikearthurok
20:57:58mikearthurtucoz: fire me the writer file, I'll do it nicely if you like :D
20:58:09tucozmikearthur, the writer2latex?
20:58:17mikearthurthe oo.org file
20:58:22peturhmmm... that optimization of lcd_update_rect() from Kaggen doesn't do that much FPS-wise :(
20:58:27tucozmikearthur, oh, hold on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/RockboxManual/rockbox-manual-2.4.zip
20:58:29mikearthurI do all my reports in latex
20:58:56tucozmikearthur, cool. You could have a look at the build stuff in the link I posted up ^^
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21:01:06tucozmikearthur, Cassandra who wrote the 2.4 manual, thought that it would be a good starting point to have the 2.4 manual in latex
21:01:17mikearthurcool
21:01:24mikearthurwell, I'm horrendously busy till friday
21:01:29mikearthurbut I'll have a look after then
21:01:36mikearthurshouldn't take me more than a few hours to get it going nicely
21:01:42tucozmikearthur, well, I am pretty much the same until the end of february.
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21:02:04mikearthurcool
21:02:07tucozOk, good. You have all the stuff you got in those two zips then.
21:02:13tucoz*need
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21:02:45tucozmikearthur, the idea is to put this in cvs eventually. So that the documentation process won't be the hassle it is now.
21:03:49tucoztherefore we need a proper setup with chapter's separated as files, and also to be able to do some conditional docs. (iriver, archos etc).
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21:04:12Acksawmike
21:04:14mikearthurhey, sorry, back
21:04:16mikearthurI'll be idling in here most days
21:04:18Acksawi sent you a pm a while back
21:04:18linuxstbpreglow: I've no idea why that yield causes problems. But I think the pcf50605 (where the RTC is located) is generating interrupts.
21:04:19mikearthurgive me a PM some time, remind me next week if you like
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21:04:32Acksawah
21:04:34Acksaw:(
21:04:45tucozsure, preglow and linuxstb are also interested in this stuff
21:05:54tucozmikearthur, the idea is to put this in cvs eventually. So that the documentation process won't be the hassle it is now.
21:05:59tucoztherefore we need a proper setup with chapter's separated as files, and also to be able to do some conditional docs. (iriver, archos etc).
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21:06:55mikearthurok, I'm not promising I can help with much of that
21:07:03mikearthurbut I'll convert it all to 1 latex file for you
21:07:27tucozmikearthur, no, but you can have a look at the stuff in this link for that: http://www.student.uib.no/~st08541/rockbox/manual.zip
21:07:31linuxstbThe text itself isn't that important - as tucoz says, the important thing is to set up the structure properly, in a way that can be used to produce different versions of the manuals for the different targets that Rockbox supports (Archos Player, Archos Recorder, Ondio, iriver, etc)
21:08:03linuxstbOnce we're happy with the basic structure, we can put it in CVS and then many people can help with the actual content.
21:08:54tucozthe pdf I posted is just the 2.4 content compiling :). It looks like shit, but it serves good as a demo
21:08:59mikearthurok cool
21:09:08mikearthurtucoz: whats in that 2nd link?
21:09:20tucozthe latex files, build scripts and so on
21:09:29mikearthurlinuxstb: cool, I've been wanting to help with this project for a while
21:09:35tucozand a README.
21:09:43mikearthurit has better gapless support than any mp3 player I've even used on my main machine
21:10:05tucozmikearthur, if you make any progress, you could always post the results in the forums (general).
21:10:11mikearthursure
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21:10:26tucozI started a thread there on LaTeX documentation.
21:10:51tucozhopefully, the forums will be back sometime :D
21:11:16mikearthurcool
21:11:25mikearthuryeh, latex is the way forward, for like, everything
21:11:29mikearthurwrite all my uni reports in it now
21:12:17tucozmikearthur, it is good that you know your latex. Then we will also have not only the best fw, but the best docs as well
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21:13:29mikearthurhehe
21:14:03tucozI got to leave, see you
21:14:08mikearthurcya
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21:15:44linuxstbpreglow: The strange thing is that I can't find anything to do with pcf50605 interrupts in the IPL source - not even code that masks them.
21:16:11preglowthen why do you think it's generating interrupts?
21:16:20linuxstbBecause the datasheet says it does.
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21:17:15preglowok
21:17:22preglowi'll try masking more interrupts and see
21:18:24dropandhoso i remember who i was thinkin of- Juana Molina
21:18:29dropandhomy bad with the description!
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21:18:53linuxstbI've just remembered that you've got a pcf50607 in your Nano, and I've got a pcf50605. The pcf50606 is in the h300, and that's the only datasheet I've found - it seems to match the IPL code for the pcf50605.
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21:19:14dropandhodamn- wrong channel again- i suck! sorry once again guys
21:19:16preglowthen perhaps it isn't so strange that nano hangs? :)
21:19:37linuxstbBut IPL doesn't have any code specificially for the 50607 - I'm assuming that all three are basically the same.
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21:20:10linuxstbBut of course, that may not be the case...
21:22:25preglowargh
21:22:28preglowwhat a mess my testing code is
21:23:24XavierGrwhat's the difference between pcm_playing() and mp3_playing()?
21:23:38XavierGr^add _is_ to each fn
21:24:55preglowone is probably for archos
21:26:36XavierGrpcm is for iriver
21:26:43XavierGrnow I got it.
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21:29:09mikearthurcan the iRiver rockbox currently record to more formats than just wav?
21:29:14_FireFly_no
21:29:25mikearthuris that a likely feature? just curious
21:30:19Coldtoastfor me, wav is enough
21:30:44mikearthuryeh, its cool for me, I'm just curious
21:30:54mikearthurwhat was the size limit on the original firmware?
21:31:09*petur longs for wav recording on his H340
21:31:43mikearthuralso, does the splitting work yet?
21:32:30XavierGrmikearthur: yes
21:32:52mikearthurawesome
21:32:58mikearthurI was recording a gig on friday
21:33:08mikearthurMUCH nicer record support than stock firmware
21:33:12mikearthurgood job lads
21:37:24preglowhmmm
21:37:29preglowsomething's wrong, that's for sure
21:39:48preglownow lookie there
21:39:53preglowit knows what time it is
21:40:38preglowbut ok, conclusion: drawing to the screen for an isr = shady practice
21:40:52preglows/for an/in an/
21:41:51peturhow frequent are the dev-mailing list archives updated?
21:42:10peturjust wondering if my mails are getting through...
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21:43:13preglowlinuxstb: btw, does backlight ever fade for you?
21:43:20linuxstbNope.
21:43:25linuxstbOnly on shutdown.
21:43:33linuxstb(i.e. after 10 minutes)
21:43:41preglowyeah, here as well
21:43:44preglowbut ok
21:43:46saa[b_r]iderguys, which files have the setup for the rockbox-blue background, and black text?
21:43:52preglowthink i'll try adding proper tick timer support
21:44:14saa[b_r]ider(for H300)
21:44:17linuxstbI'm just testing the keyboard driver in the new ipodlinux bootloader - it looks completely different to the old one. I hope it works.
21:44:24preglowbut i wonder why that yield is screwing things up
21:44:29preglowlinuxstb: that'd rock
21:44:31linuxstbhttp://opensvn.csie.org/courtc/tools/ipodloader2/keypad.c
21:44:41linuxstbJust compiling a test bootloader now.
21:45:04preglowcool, i'd like to hear what it's like
21:45:40linuxstbAhhh, my battery is flat...
21:45:59peturwhat to do with plugins that are only usefull for devs? Like LCD speed measurement...
21:46:14peturno use to add them to user rocks...
21:46:18preglowkeep them private, mostly
21:46:48peturok
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21:52:10linuxstbMy ipod's battery was so low, the RTC reset itself.
21:52:16preglowhaha
21:52:20linuxstbI shouldn't leave it in Rockbox all day long.
21:52:20preglowi've never managed that
21:52:36linuxstbBut it's happily charging now.
21:53:57linuxstbI'm going to leave it for 10 minutes, and then test that new button driver.
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21:54:28preglowi'm adding tick timer support now
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21:59:20dropandhoso linus is the one who can sort out the forums?
21:59:27preglowwhat forums?
21:59:34preglowour forums are hosted at misticriver
21:59:42dropandhohttp://forums.rockbox.org/ seem to be down
21:59:42preglowso jeff's the man for that
21:59:47dropandhogot it
21:59:51dropandhoany1 hit him up yet?
21:59:54preglowno idea
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22:00:35dropandhogoin in!
22:02:36dropandhoshot him an IM
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22:02:50saa[b_r]iderI hope you were kind :)
22:02:57dropandhoof course!
22:03:15dropandhothe nicest mean man...ever
22:03:21preglowhmm
22:03:26preglowhow do i dummy read a volatile pointer?
22:03:33preglowMYFANCY_ADDRES; ?
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22:05:27linuxstbYes, I think so.
22:06:26preglowso
22:06:33preglowi think the timing value is going to be off here
22:06:37preglowtick counter interval, etc
22:06:47preglowipl sources say it's 100hz, but it doesn't look like it to me
22:06:52preglowrockbox tick counter is 100hz, yes?
22:07:08linuxstbYes.
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22:08:48saa[b_r]ideris the background RGB value for the H300 set in lcd-h300.c?
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22:09:32linuxstbNo, firmware/export/lcd.h - LCD_DEFAULT_BG
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22:09:52saa[b_r]iderthx linuxstb, I'll locck at it now
22:10:46preglowbut then again, i was bloody updating the screen from the isr, something might have been quirky...
22:10:57idanmhello!
22:11:38idanmcan someone help me fix the h300 remote patch so it will save/load the remote type on startup?
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22:16:49saa[b_r]iderlinuxstb: and LCD_DEFAULT_FG is for text?
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22:19:10Sanis there a plugin that logs the files you play on the H300 or is there one being made?
22:19:26idanmanybody here?
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22:20:47saa[b_r]ideridanm: I just applied the H300 remote patch, but still didn't put on my player
22:21:04saa[b_r]iderare you having problems with it?
22:21:21idanmyea
22:21:29saa[b_r]iderwhat happens?
22:21:42idanmwhen i reboot, it goes back to the default remote
22:21:50idanmso I need to change it back in the menu
22:22:21idanmstangely, when I go to the menu, it's already on the h300 lcd remote, so I just need to re-choose it
22:22:43saa[b_r]idergonna try it out now
22:22:46idanmI guess it saves the remote type, but doesn't load it on boot
22:22:53idanmtell me..
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22:27:50saa[b_r]iderwhere in the menu do you choose the remote from?
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22:30:15Sanitariumis there a plugin that logs the files you play on the H300 or is there one being made?
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22:37:56preglowhrmphle
22:38:23preglowanyone, what should i call 0x60004024 ? :>
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22:47:26preglowlinuxstb: how will rockbox behave without a timer tick?
22:48:11idanmwhere is the rockbox config is saved ?
22:48:39preglowidanm: special sector on the hd
22:48:54preglowhahahha
22:49:02preglowwanna now what my backlight just did?
22:49:05preglowknow, even
22:49:13preglowit turned off after a couple of seconds
22:49:28linuxstbNow there's progress :)
22:49:36preglowat the first bloody attempt
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22:49:47linuxstbDoes that mean you have a timer tick?
22:49:47preglownothing short of bloody remarkable
22:49:51preglowyes, it does
22:49:56linuxstbCongrats.
22:49:57preglowunless i'm a bigger fool than i'd think
22:50:28preglowok, i should start thinking about some commiting here
22:51:23idanmsaa: general settings > display > lcd settings or something like that...
22:51:42idanmpreglow: is the config editable ?
22:51:54preglowidanm: if you want editable configs, you should use config files
22:52:03preglowidanm: why?
22:52:16idanminterest
22:52:29preglowby default, rockbox uses a binary sector on the disk for configs
22:52:33preglowwhich isn't very easy to edit
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22:52:44preglowbut you can yourself manually use text based config files
22:52:52preglowthere has also been some talk of making these types of files the default
22:56:51idanmthanks
22:57:05preglowlinuxstb: you think there's any point of me using an interrupt vector array, or should i just hard code the handlers?
22:57:10preglows/of/in/
22:57:12preglowbeh
22:57:22idanmso if I save a conifg, its the contents of this sector?
22:57:33preglowidanm: no
22:57:42preglowidanm: rockbox uses the sector for its automatic saving
22:57:48preglowif you explicitely ask for it, you'll get a file
22:58:05preglowthis is what you do in the Manage Settings menu entr
22:58:41linuxstbpreglow: I don't know. Whatever you think's best.
22:59:25preglowi have to read what interrupt i've got from a bit field
22:59:39preglowso it's not exactly a logical next step to convert that to an array entry
22:59:42preglowthink i'll just hard code for now
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23:00:36saa[b_r]ideridanm: I think I didn't properly patch it :)
23:00:47idanmsaa[b_r]ider: did u succeed?
23:00:48preglowlinuxstb: can't be much doubt that i've got a timer tick going, i've removed the tick macro, and it still does shut down after a while
23:00:53preglowlinuxstb: btw, tried the new button handler?
23:01:09idanmwhat's the problem?
23:01:16saa[b_r]ideridanm: I can't seem to find any option to choose the H300 remote
23:01:30saa[b_r]iderand the remote still acts funny
23:02:00dropandhowhat are u guys fixin on the remote?
23:02:18saa[b_r]iderdrop: H300 LCD remote patch
23:02:25dropandhogotcha
23:02:27dropandhonicey
23:02:38dropandhoim a heavy 120 remote user!
23:02:41preglowlinuxstb: should i cobble together a quick build to see if it works for you?
23:02:42linuxstbpreglow: No, I'm having problems with my ipod and my PC's USB at the moment. I think a reboot is needed.
23:03:03linuxstbLet me reboot, and I'll let you know.
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23:03:16preglowokies, don't take too long, i've gotta go soon
23:03:18preglowbah
23:03:25dropandhohe is a quick one
23:03:48idanmI found a way to fix that, I just changed the default in the patch source to H300 LCD, then it's ok.
23:04:19idanmI can send you a script that do the whole thing if you like
23:04:22saa[b_r]ideridanm: is this the patch you used? [ 1367824 ] patch for H300 lcd remote buttons
23:05:02idanmwhat's this number?
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23:05:33saa[b_r]iderthe code from sourceforge
23:05:47idanmok I got it
23:06:08idanmsec
23:06:46idanmit's this one, but I changed line 102:
23:06:50idanm+static int remote_type = 1;
23:08:00saa[b_r]iderwhen you did the patch, which P did you use? 1-5?
23:08:25idanm0
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23:08:43saa[b_r]iderdid it confirm that the patch was applied?
23:08:55preglowlinuxstb: back on track?
23:09:24idanmI think so..
23:10:03saa[b_r]ideridanm: this was the first time I tried to add patches... I was doing the remote patch, and another patch....
23:10:11linuxstbpreglow: I think so. You can send me a build to test if you want.
23:10:16preglowwww.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/rockbox.ipod
23:10:51saa[b_r]iderwhen commiting the remote patch, it didn't create a backup of the original button.c file
23:11:22idanmyou used button.diff
23:11:22idanm?
23:11:28saa[b_r]ideryeah
23:11:28linuxstbThe LCD is corrupted - did you send me a Nano build?
23:11:33preglowhmm, no
23:11:40idanmso it's not that..
23:11:44preglowlet me try again, then
23:11:58saa[b_r]iderlet me try to patch again
23:12:04idanmI downloaded it from a link in the forum, which is dead
23:12:17idanmno, it's remote_type.patch
23:13:12idanmdo u want me to send it to u?
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23:13:24saa[b_r]ideroh? so you didn't use button.diff? yes please
23:14:30preglowlinuxstb: try again now
23:14:34preglowused config option 13 and all
23:14:42idanmemail?
23:15:26preglowworks just peachy here, battery icon blinking, booting fine, rtc working
23:15:30preglowbacklight and all
23:15:47saa[b_r]iderDCC?
23:15:48lostlogicanyone seen a bug with some certain cases of skip soon after track change causing a Codec failure?
23:15:58idanmhow can I prevent rockbox from showing wma files?
23:16:06preglowlostlogic: no report, but i have seen it myself
23:16:17idanm<saa[b_r]ider> doens't work.
23:16:39linuxstbpreglow: No, the same problem. All I get is a corrupted splash logo and it freezes.
23:16:49preglowgreat...
23:16:50lostlogicpreglow: ok, I did modify the codec loading and starting code a teency bit to patch profiling in, so did you see it with or without my profiling code?
23:16:59preglowwithout
23:17:03saa[b_r]idersaab_rider@yahoo.com
23:17:07preglowbut it's starting to be a long time ago
23:17:10preglowlinuxstb: how is it garbled?
23:17:14lostlogiccool, thanks
23:17:47saa[b_r]ideridanm: so did you use both remote_type.patch and button.diff?
23:18:06amiconnpreglow: I know about the choppy playback when mandelbrot does intensive calculations. It seems we need a more sophisticated yield scheme for swcodec platforms
23:18:17idanmsent
23:18:21preglowamiconn: oh?
23:18:33idanmno, no button.diff
23:18:37amiconnThe simple 'yield once per pixel, but at most once per tick' scheme works well on archos
23:18:38linuxstbThe top half of the screen just contains the bottom third of the logo. In about half of the bottom half of the screen, I get a garbled image
23:18:55preglowamiconn: ahh, right
23:19:06amiconnpreglow: I mean the yield scheme in mandelbrot.rock
23:19:17preglowlinuxstb: well, i've gotta go really soon, i'll just start commiting some odd bits and pieces that can't damage anything
23:19:25preglowamiconn: yeah, i got that eventually
23:19:38idanmsaa: got it?
23:19:42saa[b_r]ideridanm: so now you can use your LCD h300 remote with no problem?
23:20:03saa[b_r]iderhmm.. lemme double check
23:20:58idanmyea
23:21:26idanmi'll be back in 10 mins.
23:21:51saa[b_r]ideraha, just got it.. tyt
23:22:13Sanitariumhey
23:22:14amiconnpreglow: Do you know how large blocks a rockbox codec decodes between two yields?
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23:24:44amiconnPerhaps we could add a function to check the boost counter from a plugin. Whenever mandelbrot 'sees' boost counter > 1, which means 'someone else' also needs high performance, it would throttle its own calculations
23:25:27preglowamiconn: in samples? around 2000 stereo in average, perhaps
23:25:52amiconn2000 in total, or 2000 per channel?
23:27:07Sanitariumdo you guys know about #C?
23:27:14Sanitariumthey might be able to help you
23:29:13dwihnoI am a bit curious... Do any of you guys know the effect of a standard laptop transformator, running at ~18 volts?
23:29:18dwihnohow many watts?
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23:31:44peturwho did the H1xx LCD backlight control?
23:31:54peturLinus?
23:31:55preglowpetur: slasheri
23:32:12preglowlinuxstb: but ok, i've gotta go now, but will commit my stuff tomorrow, at which time we can see why it doesn't work for you
23:32:40peturSlasheri: are you around?
23:33:08linuxstbpreglow: OK.
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23:34:30idanmsaa: any success?
23:35:03preglowamiconn: you got any idea how a yield() can cause a stkov?
23:35:27amiconnThe yield() never causes it, but the yield() does the check
23:35:29peturI'm off... goodnight
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23:35:50preglowamiconn: yes, but any yield should be called years after i've fixed the stack
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23:36:21preglowso i don't get how it can see a broken stack
23:36:23preglowanyway, anyway
23:36:25preglowi've gotta catch a bus
23:36:26preglowlater
23:37:37saa[b_r]iderI checked it out, it needs to patch a number of files
23:38:37idanmso
23:38:46saa[b_r]iderpreparing to patch :)
23:44:40idanmdoes anyone know how can I prevent rockbox from trying to play wma or just not to show them on supported files view/
23:48:04Moosmaybe try to change the extension name
23:48:11Moosinstead of .wma
23:48:49Sanitariumyeah, to .crapperware
23:48:54Sanitariumthen it wont show up
23:48:55XavierGrheha
23:49:01XavierGrcrapperware? lol
23:49:07Sanitarium:P
23:49:25Sanitariumgtg
23:49:27XavierGrOMG is there a WMA lossless codec?
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23:49:42San||Awaydont think so
23:49:50Mooswhere? :)
23:50:06XavierGrI just saw that in the audiophile entry in wikipedia
23:50:10XavierGrhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audiophile
23:50:13San||Awaylink
23:50:16San||Awayoh, too fast
23:50:16San||Away:P
23:50:23XavierGrprobably he means wavpack
23:51:10RotAtoRthere is wma lossless
23:51:12San||Awayhttp://board.iexbeta.com/lofiversion/index.php/t48678.html
23:51:29San||Away[quote]err, no.
23:51:29San||AwayWMA lossless is the best quality you can get. as good as CD.
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23:51:32San||Awaylol
23:51:37RotAtoRi think it only comes with winxp pro
23:51:56Moosdidn't know that here
23:52:09San||Awayhttp://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/boards/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000663.html
23:52:09Moosbut not a big losing :)
23:52:11San||Awayhhhmm^^
23:52:18RotAtoRi don't know too many details about it, but it's not well supported anywhere
23:52:24San||Awayits called WMA pro apparently
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23:52:44RotAtoRyep, and wma pro is incompatible with regular wma
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