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#rockbox log for 2006-03-11

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00:18:15okilliuaohello
00:18:50BHSPitMonkeyolleh
00:19:09okilliuaocan you help me with something?
00:19:19BHSPitMonkeyperhaps
00:21:08okilliuaoi have a ipod and have rockbox set up, but im having trouble with the controls for rockboy
00:21:31BHSPitLappyyou should.
00:21:40BHSPitLappydid you not see the word "BUGGY" next to the key config?
00:22:11BHSPitLappyuntil it accepts combos and the hold switch, it won't be too playable
00:22:21okilliuaoic
00:22:34BHSPitLappythough I had the best luck with A=PLAY, B=<<, and everything else =MENU
00:23:03okilliuaoi kept running off the ledges in mario ...
00:25:21okilliuaois there anything you suggest i install thats useful?
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00:50:09no-buttonsLinusN: are you in`?
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00:50:16no-buttonsLinusN: are you in`?
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00:51:39no-buttonsguys - how're you doing
00:52:02no-buttonsis there someone around how's chatting regulary with Linus?
00:52:14no-buttonswho... sorry
00:52:37no-buttonsI just want to forward a msg....
00:53:04youngcerealtype it i think he read the logs :)
00:53:29no-buttonsah, nice! thanks, youngcreal
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00:54:02youngcerealno prob
00:54:22youngcerealfor me its time too sleep cu
00:54:25youngcerealto all
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00:57:41no-buttonsLinus, a week ago you tried to help me with my problem (button pushing had no effect). I wanted to thank you, cause I managed to repair it. dunno how!? actually I resoldered the ground connection.... now it runs smoothly just like when I first migrated to rockbox. thanks a million! <.−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−− LOG for LINUS
00:58:23no-buttonsI'll be sleeping, too ....
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01:09:16webguest1555:2 - go real people! (said the webguest)
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02:18:47webguest15o.O .. they're selling PSPs using... Pacman!
02:18:58webguest15that's crazy on so many levels
02:22:38midkaywhat?
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02:25:50vcaquick q. is the nano supported in the uisim cvs sources or do i need an alternate one?
02:26:20Mikachuit should work
02:26:21vca(i'm new to the simulator & the docs are a little vague, they only really mention the archos)
02:26:27vcaMikachu: t/y
02:26:51Paul_The_Nerdvca: Anything that there's a daily build for, there's definitely a sim for.
02:27:31vcagood enough, that's what i need. i'm trying to track down if my WPS is buggy or if rockbox isn't raising the pause/rw/ff flags
02:27:55Mikachutry another wps?
02:27:58vcasuppose i could make a debugging wps that just displays the raw vals
02:33:24vcaMikachu: that's what i was just doing.. it's the WPS. i fixed one bug and another creeped up
02:33:47Mikachuokay
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02:56:11SlaytanicLemmyAnyone here on iPod development?
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03:12:41mfgaliziaHello, I feel like a newb for having to ask, but which package actually contains ipod_fw? Is it a part of the daily builds yet?
03:13:39Paul_The_Nerdipod_fw is part of the source only. There's a link to a windows binary on the IpodInstallation page though
03:14:16Paul_The_NerdThe daily builds are *just* the files that go on the player, and don't have anything to do with the bootloaders or their creation/installation.
03:14:28mfgaliziaPaul_The_Nerd, thanks
03:15:03Paul_The_NerdIf you're looking for it in the sources, it's in the tools folder
03:15:32mfgaliziaty
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03:19:09earHertzHow do I another new source files to /apps?
03:23:06Paul_The_NerdearHertz: If you just want to have another file compiled, add it to SOURCES I believe.
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03:23:21earHertzPaul_The_Nerd: where's SOURCES?
03:23:38Paul_The_NerdThere's several. You use the one in the folder you're putting the .c file in.
03:24:37earHertzthank you Paul_The_Nerd
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03:59:29mfgaliziaWow, this is really cool!
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06:57:38VoltageXwill I be able to reload the official iRiver firmware after i've installed RockBox on my H340?
06:58:53didjyea, just reflash with iriver firmware like normal
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07:00:34VoltageXi saw a mention that you could bootload the official firmware from rockbox, is this true?
07:00:53didjya
07:01:01VoltageXi just don't want to brick my player
07:01:10didjif you hold rec + play during startup it boots iriver firmware
07:01:19VoltageXsweet
07:01:39VoltageXI'll go rockbox always when it plays videos
07:01:55ashridahI don't recall anyone managing to brick their players yet
07:01:55didjheh
07:02:58VoltageXgah I'm getting the latest h300 build but my ISP has throttled my connection...
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07:20:01VoltageXok guys the iriver now dual boots nicely
07:20:11VoltageXI'll be watching with interest and updating monthly
07:21:04midkayVoltageX, daily might pay off better :)
07:21:18midkayso many fixes/improvements/updates/additions every day.. it's worth checking often
07:25:25VoltageXI don't have that much time
07:25:28VoltageXweekly then
07:26:04VoltageXmostly interested in new format additions
07:28:29VoltageXOK, I just found bejeweled, I officially love you guys.
07:28:42VoltageXhow hard is it to write plugins?
07:28:42Paul_The_NerdI'm not sure how many more formats there will be.
07:28:50Paul_The_NerdVoltageX: Do you know C?
07:28:52midkayVoltageX, good luck - check back in perhaps a year..
07:29:17VoltageXPaul_The_Nerd: no.
07:29:28Paul_The_NerdIt's as hard as learning C.
07:32:25Paul_The_NerdWell, really it *is* learning C, I suppose
07:40:19VoltageXI really don't want to learn C right now but I'll have to in university in 2 years
07:43:15VoltageX404 on the gameboy plugin
07:48:17Paul_The_NerdWhat do you mean?
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07:57:02VoltageXthere's a download link on the site, but it's broken
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07:58:12BHSPitLappyit's just part of the cvs builds
07:58:40BHSPitLappyif you have a compatible player, download rockbox (or build from cvs) and you'll have it.
07:59:08VoltageXoh
07:59:10VoltageXok
07:59:25VoltageXI'm gonna turn up to school with pokemon on my H300
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08:00:49BHSPitLappyheh
08:01:04BHSPitLappyit's a buggy plugin, though
08:01:20BHSPitLappya "bugin," if you will...
08:01:36Paul_The_NerdThere's a download link for rockbox somewhere?
08:01:47Paul_The_NerdVoltageX: What page is the DL link on?
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08:31:55Paul_The_NerdVoltageX: Where did you find the rockboy download link?
08:33:50midkayPluginRockboy perhaps?
08:33:51midkay:)
08:35:05Paul_The_NerdFixed
08:35:35midkaynice, worthless link anyways
08:35:46midkaythere was even a note after it saying "this is pointless because it's already in cvs".. wtf.
08:36:08midkaywhat sort of .. would leave the link there whilst adding a "this is in cvs so nevermind this URL" note..
08:37:03Paul_The_NerdI really have no clue
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10:35:25amiconnlinuxstb/ preglow: Does battery_bench.rock work on iPod?
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10:38:21asperHi guys
10:38:24asperis there linusn ?
10:38:33asperI had been able to compile the code for remoclone !
10:38:54JdGordonhey all
10:39:01asperI have the .hex file for 16f84, does anyone want to have it to share with others remoclone builders ?
10:39:23aspermaybe in the page with the schematics :)
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10:39:37JdGordonye, just update the wiki page
10:40:04asperCan i send the hex to you ?
10:40:25amiconnHmm, one of the build servers seems to be stuttering. Funny warning line:
10:40:42amiconn. //usrusr//liblib//gcc/gcci686-/pci686−−linuxpc−−linuxgnu-/gnu/3.4.53.4.5//....//....//.../../../.i686/-i686-pcpc−−linux-linuxgnu-/gnubin//bin/ldld:: warning:warning: creatingcreating aa DT_TEXTRELDT_TEXTREL inin object.object.
10:41:03linuxstbamiconn: I don't know about battery_bench - I haven't tried it since lostlogic added battery status reading.
10:41:26amiconnIf it works, I would remove battery_test.rock
10:41:59amiconnThis doesn't really make sense now we have battery_bench, provided the latter works
10:42:15asperanyway if someone want to have the hex code here it is:
10:42:15asperhttp://pastebin.ca/45225
10:43:39asperthe code had been compiled by the author of remoclone T.J.
10:43:40Paul_The_Nerdamiconn: Battery bench mostly works on the nano. You have to force it to write the file, since it syncs writes with disk spin-ups, and the Nano never does that, but if you just force it to write, it *looks* like it works. I think.
10:44:21amiconnHmm.
10:44:25Paul_The_NerdI would assume that it probably works on the disk based iPods.
10:45:12amiconnImho it would be useful to simulate disk spinup like we do on the Ondio.
10:45:39amiconnThis would automatically make the disk access icon work as well
10:46:03amiconnMaybe it's not that useful on Nano, but nice to have
10:46:10Mikachui think that one already works
10:46:26Mikachurecently i got a blinking icon in the upper right
10:46:34earHertzwhat's the minimum sizeof( int) on all platforms?
10:46:34Mikachui can't tell if it's actually synced to disk accesses though
10:46:47amiconnHmm, then why does battery_bench not write when it should?
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10:47:35amiconnearHertz: 4 for all currently active targets, 2 when including inactive targets
10:47:45Paul_The_Nerdamiconn: It may be that it writes directly before the disk is supposed to sleep. I haven't looked at it, just listened to what Xavier said.
10:47:55earHertzamiconn: thanks
10:48:10Paul_The_Nerdamiconn: I know that the flash is never told to sleep, because then you lose the ability to access it until you reboot.
10:48:26amiconnYes I know
10:48:53amiconnThe ata code could still maintain the sleep state internally, just not send the actual sleep command to the flash
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10:52:20Paul_The_Nerdamiconn: Yeah. I was just saying that if it's not the spinup that it uses to sync, it could've been the sleep. I haven't looked.
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10:59:28safetydanamiconn, your version of the sim audio callback works on my system as well
10:59:37amiconnOkay.
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11:00:00amiconnA slight optimisation is possible, avoiding one if() in the while loop
11:00:12amiconnThe question is whether it's worth it
11:00:15safetydanI don't think it's that performance sensitive
11:00:34amiconnDo we need FILE *DEBUG?
11:00:41amiconnFILE *debug even
11:00:48safetydanIf we want to keep the feature of writing out the debug audio stream
11:01:03safetydanIt was something I added to the sim
11:01:30amiconnHow is this feature enabled?
11:01:46safetydan−−debugaudio
11:01:54safetydanwrites a file called audiodebug.raw to the current directory
11:02:03amiconnAh, okay
11:02:17safetydancontains the entire PCM stream and is overwritten each run of the sim
11:02:30safetydanpossibly handy for quality tests or eq tuning
11:02:34amiconnThis is probably a wanted feature for debugging codecs/ dsp function
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11:20:46linuxstbIs anyone interested in testing my Pacman emulator on a H300?
11:20:56JdGordonme
11:21:27linuxstbThanks, I'll upload a patch.
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11:23:45safetydanamiconn, cheers for that. make the CPU load nearly zero too in the sim
11:24:41safetydanI almost feel like you're following me around CVS. I get sdl sound working(ish), you come along and make it work right. I get oscillograph sort of working, you come along and rewrite the oscillo plugins and the lcd scrolling :)
11:24:54amiconnhehe :)
11:25:49amiconnI am planning one more mode for oscilloscope :)
11:25:50zoneoutHas anyone got rockbox going on the 5g (video) ipod??
11:26:16linuxstbzoneout: A lot of people use it on a 5g.
11:26:57zoneoutlinuxstb: cool... Why is it better than the ipod firmware?
11:27:01zoneoutis it stable?
11:28:24linuxstbNot everyone would call it "better" than the ipod firmware - it just implements a different set of features. Such as gapless playback, crossfade, fully-adjustable EQ, independence from iTunes (you just drag and drop music files) and support for a wide range of audio codecs.
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11:28:42linuxstbThe only real downside is that the battery life isn't as long.
11:28:56VoltageXwhat's the boost setting in the debug menu for the h3xx?
11:29:05zoneoutlinuxstb: sounds good... Can you install it alongside the ipodfirmware?
11:29:36linuxstbzoneout: Yes - you "dual-boot", in the same way as installing Linux and Windows on the same PC.
11:29:43zoneoutlinuxstb: cool...
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11:30:56zoneoutI ONLY run linux (no windows/MAC) and have been using gnupod to sync to the ipod... itunes independence sounds like my cup of tea.
11:31:22zoneoutthat way I can cut out gnupod...
11:31:54zoneouthow is it that songs etc are organised? Presumably you can control what directories to put them in etc...
11:32:40Paul_The_Nerdzoneout: It's entirely filetree based. You put the songs where you want, organized how you want.
11:33:09VoltageXsorry to repeat but...
11:33:10VoltageXwhat's the boost setting in the debug menu for the h3xx?
11:33:14zoneoutcool
11:33:41MikachuVoltageX: i'd guess it always puts the cpu at max speed, instead of only when it's needed
11:33:43zoneoutPaul_The_Nerd: What about song names, are they read from the id3 info?
11:34:00zoneoutor are they filename?
11:34:01Mikachuyeah, but not until you play the song
11:34:08linuxstbzoneout: The file browser only displays the filenames, but the "while playing screen" displays the tag info.
11:34:43amiconnhrmpf
11:34:46Paul_The_NerdVoltageX: The boost just tells whether the CPU is currently boosting or not.
11:34:57amiconnt0mas: distributed builds are hanging again...
11:35:10zoneouthmm... I might have to rename all my mp3s...
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11:35:50Mikachuare you calling them 35a2oelrro9.mp3 now?
11:36:22zoneoutlinuxstb: you say you 'dual boot', does that mean I'll need two copies of each mp3 (one for itunes and the other for rockbox)?
11:36:31zoneoutMikachu: yep :)
11:36:49Mikachuafter you try rockbox you won't want to use itunes/apple firmware anymore
11:37:08linuxstbzoneout: Yes and no. Rockbox can play the files copied by iTunes, but iTunes renames your files to something like F00/P2E1A.mp3
11:37:11zoneoutDoes it support video playback?
11:37:46linuxstbNo
11:37:54zoneoutno great loss :)
11:38:39VoltageXI must say, once I found the gameboy emulator, I've been in rockbox mode ever since
11:38:42Mikachui think one thing is a bit strange, gtkpod calls the files F00/gtkpod89uaoeiu98.mp3, so couldn't it just call the files by their real names?
11:38:44VoltageXI lovre it
11:38:55zoneoutlinuxstb: Does it support the 5g's colour screen? i.e. can you display photo's/pictures etc?
11:39:08Mikachuyeah, you can zoom in jpeg pictures
11:39:08linuxstbYes, there's a very nice colour JPEG viewer.
11:39:21*HCl thinks he missed some mail..
11:39:42zoneoutMikachu: No, itunes.db has a limit on the number of characters in a filename (I think it's about 50)...
11:39:45zoneoutit sucks
11:40:34*HCl found it
11:40:40zoneoutWhat about my ipod speakers? Presumably they won't work with it.
11:40:50zoneoutcool
11:41:03zoneoutare the menus colour?
11:41:14Mikachuyou can have a bitmapped background
11:41:18Mikachuie a picture
11:42:47Paul_The_Nerdzoneout: If I understand correctly, *some* accessories that use the line out work. I think.
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11:44:34JdGordonwtf 4.30am??
11:44:38linuxstbiPod accessories normally try and talk to the iPod via the accessories connector - but Rockbox doesn't support that yet. So generic speakers should work, but iPod-specific stuff probably won't.
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11:45:54zoneouthmm I've got a Logic3 iStation...
11:46:09youngcerealnornig
11:46:15Mikachutoo bad fat doesn't support symlinks..
11:46:16youngcerealmornig to all
11:47:01zoneoutIt plugs in through the accessories connector but it has it's own volume controls, and leaves the ipod to manage everything else... Do you think it'd work?
11:47:56Mikachusounds possible
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11:53:07youngcerealmikach: you has an ipod nano right ?
11:53:10amiconnMikachu: .lnk files are possible on FAT (and anything else)
11:53:29amiconncygwin uses .lnk files for emulating symlinks
11:53:42chiefmadnessanyone here got a Toshiba Gigabeat?
11:54:12youngcerealmarkum but he is not on over the weekend
11:54:14youngcereal;)
11:54:21zoneoutamiconn: Yeah, but they're a pretty poor emulation of symlinks
11:54:37zoneoutsymlinks rock
11:54:41chiefmadnessokay
11:54:50chiefmadnesswot about u youngcereal?
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11:57:18youngcerealchiefmadness: i ipod photo
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14:23:42Paul_The_NerdWhat is the define "APPEXTRA", specifically in relation to the make system?
14:33:39safetydanShould the plugin code reset the font to UI_FONT when a plugin exits?
14:34:21linuxstbPaul_The_Nerd: It's the extra directories in apps/ that the target needs - "player", "recorder" and "gui"
14:34:46linuxstbIn my mind, "recorder" really means "bitmapped LCD"
14:35:01linuxstband "player" is "character LCD"
14:35:15Paul_The_Nerdlinuxstb: In regards to pacman, if I put a # before the ifdef APPEXTRA and the endif, suddenly it builds.
14:36:32Paul_The_NerdI was just going to start working my way through various things semi-systematically since I don't really get most of what goes on in a makefile anyway, but that seemed to do it.
14:36:42*Paul_The_Nerd has no idea if that would/could have averse affects.
14:40:13linuxstbThat's very odd - at least on my system - APPEXTRA is defined in that makefile. Under the "all:" rule in apps/plugins/pacbox/Makefile, can you add "[TAB]echo APPEXTRA+$(APPEXTRA)" to see if it is set to anything.
14:41:44Paul_The_NerdI'll try that
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14:45:21Paul_The_Nerdrecorder:gui
14:47:04linuxstbPaul_The_Nerd: That doesn't make any sense then. "ifdef APPEXTRA" should be true, so commenting out that ifdef (by putting a # in front of it) should make no difference.
14:47:31linuxstbDid you comment out the INCLUDES += as well?
14:47:34Paul_The_NerdNope
14:47:59Paul_The_NerdThe only changes I made to the makefile were the addition of the two #s
14:49:32Paul_The_NerdAnd now...
14:49:36Paul_The_Nerdwhen I put them back, it works.
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14:50:07Paul_The_NerdAs in, the makefile's back in its original condition...
14:50:45linuxstbWhat if you try a make clean?
14:51:11linuxstbOr at least, "rm -fr apps/plugins/pacbox*" in your build directory.
14:51:38Paul_The_Nerdlinuxstb: That "it worked with the restored makefile" was in a different build directory, I think. Let me double check
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14:54:06Papricalinuxstb, could i test the pacman on the h3xx?
14:54:51Paul_The_Nerdlinuxstb: Yeah, with a completely clean build directory, it still works. Also, you *may* want to put a boost in it. With the cpu speed patch, it runs at 9fps.
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14:56:58linuxstbPaprica: There's a build here (I've currently broken the source but plan to either post it to the patch tracker or commit to CVS later this afternoon) - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rockbox-h300pac.zip
14:57:29Paprica10x, i'll try it
14:57:58linuxstbSadly, it's only working at about 50% realtime on the H300. I'm in the process of getting it running on my H140, so I can then try and optimise the IRAM usage.
14:58:27Paul_The_Nerdlinuxstb: what will break if you just throw || CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H300_PAD || CONFIG_KEYPAD == IPOD_4G_PAD on the end of the button_hold bits instead of creating duplicate ones at the end?
14:58:52linuxstbPaul_The_Nerd: Where do you mean?
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14:58:58Paul_The_Nerdlinuxstb: plugin.c/.h
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14:59:35HyperbitHi got Problem with RockBox @ Apple G5
14:59:38linuxstbIt will mean increasing the plugin API version - it will break the H300 and 4G plugin API.
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15:00:10Papricalinuxstb, from where do i need to download the rom?
15:00:29Paul_The_Nerdlinuxstb: I'm just curious why it would be preferable to have it in different places for different targets? I mean, is there any really negative effect to upping the API version?
15:00:45linuxstbUpping the API version breaks third-party plugins.
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15:01:23linuxstbNext time the API structure is cleaned, they can be combined.
15:01:32Paul_The_NerdGotcha
15:01:35HyperbitAny Idea What i do Wrong, The Apple Shows (after i do all wikisteps) only a Directory with a ! an tell me to go to apple.com/support.... :(
15:02:06safetydanhrm... viewports are likely to require a general clipping routine aren't they?
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15:03:00Paul_The_Nerdlinuxstb: My real concern was just locally anyway. I was pretty sure your answers were going to be exactly what they were, but since your patch didn't apply to my personal build, I decided to merge the lines anyway.
15:03:09Hyperbit?
15:03:30linuxstbHyperbit: You did something wrong, but it's hard to guess what...
15:03:43linuxstbHow big is the rockboot.bin file you created?
15:03:51Hyperbiti try the wikki steps and a automated installer
15:03:52Papricalinuxstb, from where do i need to download the rom?
15:03:52Hyperbitmom
15:04:15linuxstbHyperbit: If you tried the wiki steps and then ran the automated installer, you have definitely broken it.
15:04:33Paul_The_NerdHyperbit: When you tried the automated installer, did you first restore your iPod to working condition with the apple restore utility?
15:04:35linuxstbYou should do one or the other (unless you restored your iPod to the factory state between the two attempts).
15:04:35Hyperbitno seperate.. after crash i tryd the automatic installer ;D
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15:05:09Hyperbitcause the ipod was killed ;D i reset him to faktory settings...
15:05:48Paul_The_NerdHyperbit: So, the ipod was working normally (with apple software) before you tried the installer?
15:06:01Hyperbityes
15:07:19linuxstbAre you installing from Windows or Mac OS?
15:08:33Hyperbitwindows :(
15:08:57linuxstbPaprica: We can't distribute the ROMs. They are the standard Pacman arcade machine ROMs - the same as those used by Mame and other emulators.
15:09:07Papricaah
15:09:08Papricaok
15:09:09Paprica=]
15:09:14Papricamm
15:10:31Paul_The_Nerdlinuxstb: Just a quick question: Is there an easy way for me to rotate the screen the other direction? (I'm left handed). Or would that require more tinkering than it's worth?
15:11:15linuxstbIt's on my list. You'll need to reverse the lcd rendering code to do it in the opposite direction. But that code is a bit cryptic...
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15:11:25Paul_The_NerdAaaah
15:12:30Paul_The_NerdIt's hardly a major thing, I was just curious if it was in a state right now where I could just do, say, width-x and height-y and be done with it. :)
15:13:00*Paprica plays pacman
15:13:18linuxstbThe update loop does the scaling and rotation in one operation, and tries to be efficient. So you'll need to replace the whole loop with one that does the rotation and scaling in the opposite direction.
15:13:26Hyperbitlinuxstb my roockboot is exactly 11.769.856 Bytes
15:13:31linuxstbPlus reverse the keys of course.
15:13:37Paul_The_NerdYeah
15:13:42linuxstbOr buy a gigabeat.
15:13:50Paul_The_NerdOr buy a gigabeat?
15:13:52linuxstb(the screen doesn't need rotating)
15:14:01Paul_The_NerdAaah.
15:14:24linuxstbBut you would need to port Rockbox first... So maybe changing the LCD code is easier :)
15:14:51linuxstbHyperbit: That sounds correct. How big are your two apple_??????.bin files?
15:15:42Hyperbitapple 6.455.420 Bytes Broad 5.243.392 Byte
15:16:56linuxstbMy apple_os.bin is 5.879.344 bytes for my 5g.
15:16:57Papricalinuxstb, veryyyy nice =]
15:16:59Papricalove it
15:17:05linuxstbBut maybe you have a newer version.
15:17:09Hyperbit1.1
15:17:14Hyperbitfirmware
15:17:24linuxstbI'm probably still using 1.0.
15:17:41Hyperbitit wrks
15:17:44Hyperbitdamm...
15:18:00Hyperbitdoing all steps again .. and and it works^^
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15:18:28linuxstbGlad it's working.
15:19:05Hyperbitnow i will enjoy directory playing ^^
15:19:40linuxstbPaprica: Glad you like it. What FPS is it displaying? The first number is the actual FPS, and "20 fps" is what it is aiming for.
15:21:09HyperbitLinuxstb : Supid Q but... i got the G5 only one day... how to shut off the ipod?
15:21:11Hyperbit^^
15:21:38linuxstbHold down the PLAY/PAUSE button for about 3-4 seconds.
15:21:48Hyperbitnice^^
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15:22:25linuxstbYou might want to read the IpodTips and IpodFAQ wiki pages.
15:22:41linuxstbPlus the generic Rockbox documentation.
15:22:53Hyperbitnow it woks.. so i will do it ^^
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15:30:28safetydanThat Will Dyson guy is right. It's a bad idea to pass NULL to dlclose();
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15:34:51Hyperbitone q is open... i cant boot to orginal os... what do i wrong?
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15:36:05Paul_The_NerdHyperbit: You probably aren't holding menu early enough. Try turning it on by tapping the menu button, then *immediately* pressing it down again and holding it.
15:37:00Hyperbitk .... have to do it fast ;D ure right
15:37:45Hyperbitthank u all so manny :D
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15:49:48Papricalinuxstb, it shows 10.5 fps
15:52:00Jungti1234hello
15:52:01moodelynis there a way to use the simulator without it producing sound? i'm trying to listen to music while testing a WPS
15:52:41Jungti1234moodelyn: It has sound already.
15:53:10moodelyni don't want the sound, it's messing with my music (in foobar)
15:53:36moodelynhave to make a silent mp3 i guess :)
15:53:50herz42There is a define in the autoconf.h for this, but never switched it off :)
15:54:06Jungti1234ah.
15:54:07herz42#undef ROCKBOX_HAS_SIMSOUND
15:54:11Jungti1234right.
15:54:19moodelynthanks!
15:54:36safetydannot sure if that define works right anymore
15:58:01moodelynnope, didn't work
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15:58:20herz42didn't buidl, or still sound?
15:58:27moodelynstill sound
15:58:35herz42sad...
15:58:35moodelynsetting volume to minimum doesn't seem tow ork either
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16:18:32Hyperbitbye nice guys =D
16:18:35Nico_Plinuxstb: i downloaded your h300 pacman build and put the pacman ROMs in it, but it keeps telling me i haven't got the ROMs...
16:18:42Nico_Pmaybe i didn't get the right ones
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16:20:18Paul_The_NerdNico_P: Are they in /.rockbox/pacman/?
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16:20:54Nico_PPaul_The_Nerd: yes
16:21:37Nico_Pi got 4 files, "pacman.6e" to "pacman.6j"
16:21:40Paul_The_NerdNico_P: 6 files, extensions.5e, .5f, .6e, .6f, .6h, .6j?
16:21:45Paul_The_NerdAh, you're missing 2 files
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16:24:31Jungti1234hey linuxstb
16:27:27Jungti1234linuxstb: Could I test your pacman emulator on h300?
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16:36:08linuxstbWould there be any objections from anyone to me committing my (GPL'd) Pacman emulator to CVS?
16:36:29crashdpacman you say
16:36:33crashdi cant see why anyone would linuxstb ;)
16:36:55_kclafi hate pacman
16:36:59_kclafplease dont commit thx
16:37:02crashdhehe
16:37:04crashdo rly!
16:37:09linuxstbOK, I'll delete it then.
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16:37:15_kclafTHANKS
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16:44:06lostlogicrelevation! on at least ipod 5g, when the battery gets full, it switches from rockbox usb charge mode to apple disk mode...
16:44:26lostlogicmustb e some kind of power transition interrupt that we miss interpret or that hides USB mode momentarily
16:44:51*linuxstb commits pacbox to CVS
16:45:30Jungti1234oh.
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16:52:18skwad__Jungti1234 : could it be possible that you translate the version changes written on this page : http://ihome.iaudio.com/iaudio_board/zeroboard/zboard.php?id=C08&category=&no=297&bmenu=C&category=67 ?
16:53:19Jungti1234wait
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16:53:49Jungti1234hmm?
16:54:08Jungti1234It already I did.
16:54:28Jungti1234no?
16:54:30sharpewow... the file i/o functions do not like me...
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16:56:10skwad__no you did the prev version
16:56:56skwad__or is this the video resume on start and added czech language version ? :S
16:57:13Jungti1234It's same.
16:57:29skwad__ok, thx, they just renamed the last beta to final ^^
16:57:39Jungti1234ah :)
16:57:45Jungti1234ah?
16:57:54Jungti1234iAUDIO X5 Firmware v2.10 Beta5 ??
16:58:06skwad__:S
16:58:10Jungti1234It's different.
16:58:41Jungti1234You linked final version to me.
16:59:15skwad__yep
16:59:15skwad__no I mean 2.10 Beta 8
16:59:27Jungti12348?
16:59:39skwad__it should be this here :
16:59:39skwad__http://ihome.iaudio.com/iaudio_board/zeroboard/zboard.php?id=C08&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&bmenu=iAUDIO&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&bmenu=iAUDIO&desc=asc&no=297&bmenu=iAUDIO
16:59:42skwad__yep
16:59:55Jungti1234There is no beta 8.
17:00
17:00:04skwad__then they just replaced it
17:00:21Jungti1234hm
17:00:28Jungti1234then, Beta5?
17:00:57Jungti1234Other thing of it added.
17:03:21Jungti1234linuxstb: It's nice..:)
17:05:23linuxstbJungti1234: The version in CVS is better than the version I gave you - I've implemented a menu for all the Pacman dipswitch options.
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17:07:34tucozlinuxstb, do you have screenshots of pacbox for the supported targets? I thought I could add it to the manual
17:08:00linuxstbIt's probably a bit early for screenshots - I'm hoping that (especially for the smaller LCDs) we can improve the scaling.
17:08:26tucozlinuxstb, ok. I could just add a _very_ simple .tex file then
17:09:09Jungti1234linuxstb: It looks like a little rough.
17:09:11tucozbut a lot of plugins do have crappy screenshots as it is now, many of the old ones are not adopted to the larger screens yet.
17:09:36tucozcool with pacman anyway, nice work :)
17:09:56Mikachulinuxstb: the menu doesn't work properly for me
17:10:10Mikachuwhen i press select to confirm the entry of ghost names for example, it jumps back into the dialog when i release select
17:10:22Mikachubut i can press menu to escape after confirming once and reentering and it stays out...
17:11:00linuxstbMikachu: Yes - that's an ipod problem....
17:11:07linuxstbA patch would be welcome :)
17:11:42Jungti1234hmm
17:12:04Jungti1234Can't it take a screenshot?
17:12:08Mikachuhow about entering submenus on press instead of release?
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17:12:24Mikachulike all other menus do on ipods...
17:12:27linuxstbIt's just using the standard menu code....
17:12:32Mikachuthat's strange then
17:13:51tucozlinuxstb, do you know what to do if I have made a 'cvs add file.png' but forgot to do 'cvs add -kb file.png' ?
17:14:17Mikachudid you cvs commit too?
17:14:19tucozno
17:14:35Mikachuthen you can probably cvs remove or delete and readd it with no ill effects
17:14:35tucozThe files are just scheduled, but not as binaries
17:14:41tucozok
17:14:44tucozthanks
17:14:50Mikachui hope cvs won't remove the files locally
17:14:53moodelynyeah that works, i've done it before
17:14:57moodelynrename the file bnefor eyou remove it
17:15:04tucozok, thanks guys
17:15:10moodelynyou can't "cvs remove" a file that exists locally, cvs will complain (very annoying)
17:15:25tucozok, I get it. I just move them somewhere first then.
17:15:39moodelynyeah, rename, remove, rename back and add-kb. sorted :)
17:16:02moodelyni wish the cvs client was intelligent enough to notice files *full* of binary data and use -kb automatically :)
17:16:58tucozmoodelyn, maybe it is possible to instruct the cvs client to add -kb when it adds files with certain extensions
17:17:07moodelynit is yeah
17:17:24tucozit is ? I should do that then
17:17:45moodelynnot sure how but i assume it is as some extensions seem to be done automatically at work
17:18:00tucozok, I'll check that out later on.
17:19:24linuxstbtucoz: You could look in the CVS/Entries file (in the directory where your PNG file is), and maybe add the -kb to that manually before you commit.
17:19:52Mikachuamiconn: i'm not getting any text in the oscilloscope plugin
17:20:52tucozlinuxstb, oh, I should check that out as well. But, I moved the files and removed them and then cvs add -kb'ed them now. But next time I'll look into that
17:22:53tucozlinuxstb, do you know what I should do to get not get utf-8 in the commit message? Now if I write a é, that character is not shown correctly on the frontpage
17:23:48Mikachuset the encoding in your terminal/editor...
17:24:18XavierGrwow new Pacman game
17:24:32XavierGrcongrats linuxstb!
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17:24:43tucozMikachu, ok. But, is it important that the commit messages are 'correct' in the sense of encoding?
17:25:17tucoznevermind, I found out it was not that hard to change encoding
17:25:47Mikachui would prefer utf-8 only in my project
17:25:55tucozis ISO-8859-1 ok?
17:26:01Mikachubut it seems your front page is iso8859-1
17:26:31tucozyes, it is. And I think viewcvs is iso8859-1 as well.
17:30:30Jungti1234bye all
17:31:00Jungti1234tucoz: Did you speak Korean?
17:31:25tucozJungti1234, no
17:31:32Jungti1234ok
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17:31:59tucozor, maybe I did. In a past life perhaps
17:32:11tucozI don't remember
17:32:45Mikachui only know hello is anyong haseyo
17:33:05Papricalinuxstb, any chance to make the pacman works on 20 fps on h300?
17:34:50tucozSorry to break the bad news to you. Milosevic is dead.
17:37:04linuxstbPaprica: That's the aim - 20fps on all targets.
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17:37:26Papricasweet =]
17:38:04tucozlooks like the name-discussion on the ml has finally (hopefully) faded out.
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17:41:34safetydanand the poll score was 57 to 2
17:41:56Mikachuthat means 2 of the names in the credits file are fake?
17:42:23ghode|afkthere was a poll?
17:43:43safetydanMikachu, possibly, it's an anonymous poll so could be skewed
17:43:52safetydanghode|afk, yes
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17:45:17imphasingIs there someone who knows ARM ASM around?
17:45:18imphasing:)
17:46:06imphasinglinuxstb: BTW, I re-wrote the rotating blitter in ASM, so if you want to use it, (when it gets more refined :P) you can
17:46:46imphasing(hehe, context == "MAME")
17:47:13linuxstbHow much faster is it?
17:47:27imphasingWell..."faster". Not loads, that I can tell.
17:47:30imphasingBut it seems a little faster
17:47:42imphasingit should get faster once I get it more refined though
17:48:20imphasingRight now, it's a function with 10 (!) arguments, so I'm sure all that memory access slows it down
17:48:31imphasingI can use some local variables, and get that down to 4 probably
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17:52:58imphasinglinuxstb: I'm using some of the gcc asm code, which is horrible, so I'm re-writing it by hand
17:53:05imphasingwe'll see how much faster it gets
17:53:06imphasing:)
17:56:25imphasingWhen a function has more then 4 arguments, the 5th one would go into [sp, #0], correct? and then if the second was say, an integer, it would be in [sp, #4]?
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18:02:44crashdhmms
18:02:47crashdlets give pacbox a spin
18:02:53imphasingpacbox?
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18:03:14imphasingoh, linuxstb's pacman?
18:03:17crashdlinuxstb commited pacbox (gny pacman 'client')
18:03:18crashdyeah
18:03:25crashdonly, im missing a rom or two
18:03:29*crashd goes off
18:03:41imphasingYou could use the test roms from ipodmame
18:04:02imphasingcrashd: His is just a MAME port as well.
18:04:11crashdyeah, i know
18:04:17crashdhmms
18:04:37linuxstbimphasing: No, it's not a Mame port.
18:04:41crashdisnt it?
18:04:42imphasing!!
18:04:43imphasingWOO!
18:04:54linuxstbIt's an emulator even slower than mame.
18:04:56imphasingYou got rid of MAME?
18:04:56imphasing:)
18:04:57crashdheh
18:04:59imphasingawe.
18:05:00crashd\o/ ahright
18:05:05imphasingAt least it's not MAME..
18:05:08imphasinghehe
18:05:12imphasingDid you write it?
18:05:35linuxstbIt's a port (from C++ to C and Windows to Rockbox) of PIE.
18:06:01imphasingWow...that's got to be rough..
18:06:28imphasingPorting windows C++ to another OS I always thought was impossible..
18:06:38linuxstbIt's relatively clean now, but still needs a lot of optimisation to get it working at a decent speed.
18:06:54imphasingah
18:07:10imphasingBTW, centipede is now working on ipodmame
18:07:10imphasing:)
18:07:10imphasingMy favorite arcade game..
18:07:22crashdhehe
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18:07:32crashdmy romset is corrupt, no mazes ;)
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18:09:23imphasingI can't beleive the ARM ARM book only has once reference to the ADR instruction..
18:11:38linuxstbcrashd: If it's any help, I've just added the MD5 checksums from my copy of the ROMs to the Wiki page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginPacbox
18:11:54crashdis that for the proper Midway romset?
18:12:11imphasinglinuxstb: Did you abandon MAME because of the licensing issue?
18:12:17linuxstbcrashd: Hope so...
18:12:20crashdcool
18:12:21linuxstbimphasing: Yes.
18:13:26linuxstbThe more I looked at the Mame license, the more I didn't like it. Open source software shouldn't have "no commercial use" clauses.
18:13:36imphasingYeah, that bugs me.
18:14:02imphasingIf I release code, I want anyone to be able to use it..
18:14:03imphasing:/
18:14:30earHertzActuaslly, I'd prefer that some suit not get rich off something I never got paid for
18:14:53Mikachuthat's when you can sell licenses
18:14:56imphasingNo one ever gets rich off open source software.
18:14:57imphasing:P
18:14:58safetydanthe mame guys have their reasons... there's a lot of money to be made from arcade emulation
18:15:05Mikachusince they usually don't want it via gpl
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18:30:28tucozI added a section to the ManualHowto. If you want to add/change/do something, please write it down
18:30:44tucozThe section is 'Work in progress'
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18:38:41Papricalinuxstb, i found a bug in pacbox
18:39:23linuxstbPaprica: What's that?
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18:39:27Papricait crashes when the music is playing and you start the plugin
18:47:57MarcoPolohi !
18:48:15MarcoPoloscrolling margins patch doesn't work with current svn
18:51:11linuxstbPaprica: Thanks. That will be my IRAM usage conflicting with the codecs....
18:52:19crashdreyy, my roms checkout now
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18:54:22Paprica=]
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18:56:16linuxstbPaprica: Now fixed in CVS.
18:56:23Papricaok
18:56:27Papricahi eli
18:56:43Papricalinuxstb, thanks =]
18:57:31eli_shererhello
18:58:01eli_shereri'm sorry i'm not around anymore i'm in commanders course in the army
18:58:24eli_shereri'm finishing in two weeks...
18:59:35eli_shererIs there a way to check the ultimate FPS rate of a tagrat?
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19:01:54linuxstbThe FPS doing what? Do you just mean the raw lcd_update() speed?
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19:06:27eli_shererlinuxstb: yes (for your last answer/question).
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19:07:31linuxstbThere is a test_fps.c plugin here: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/test_fps.c (I didn't write it)
19:08:31MarcoPolothe databox plugins seems no to work on ipod, is it normal ?
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19:11:53eli_shererlinuxstb: have you tested it? (any interesting results
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19:46:52amiconn_linuxstb: Putting one function in two places just to not break api backwards compatibility is silly imho
19:47:15amiconn_If we need to break compatibility, then break it
19:47:36amiconn_I did the same just today, when removing lcd_roll()
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19:48:45moodelynare the %dN tags (parts of the directory path) known to be broken? don't seem to work in the sim at least.
19:49:15Mikachui have %d1 in my wps and it seems to work fine
19:49:20crashdwhere are the .rock sources kept?
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19:49:56moodelynoh hang on i'm being stupid, i've got my test files in the root dir... nothing to see here! look over there!
19:50:16Mikachucrashd: in cvs
19:50:32amiconn_Mikachu: What text did you expect in oscilloscope?
19:50:47amiconn_Vertical mode has speed messages the same way as oscillograph had
19:50:52Mikachuthe one the code wants to print
19:50:59Mikachui don't get any text when i change speeds
19:51:02amiconn_Horizontal mode doesn't have any messages
19:51:03crashddoik
19:51:06Mikachuoh
19:51:21amiconn_...as there are no vertical text functions
19:51:24Mikachuwouldn't it be possible when using the scanning yellow line?
19:52:56amiconn_How?
19:53:03amiconn_Btw, the line is supposed to be red...
19:53:07Mikachuyeah i forgot
19:53:18Mikachujust print it and when the line comes it's erased i guess..
19:53:26Mikachumaybe keep it around one or two scans
19:53:40Mikachui don't really have any idea how that stuff works though :)
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19:55:09amiconn_Well we could just print the message horizontally, but (1) that won't give a close association to the point of speed change
19:55:21SlasheriHmm, would you prefer a setting to enable/disable the animated charging indicator on targets where we can display more excact information about how charging progresses or just disable the animated indicator entirely?
19:55:35amiconn_and (2) we can only ever print to the left of the scanning cursor to avoid immediate overwriting
19:56:10amiconn_So, if the cursor is near the left side, the message might not fit
19:56:29amiconn_Maybe just print the number w/o "Speed:" in front
19:56:38Mikachuin the one mode where text is printed, i get it printed at the top and it scrolls off right away
19:57:04Mikachuoh wait, maybe i changed something when i poked at the text
19:57:31amiconn_In vertical mode the text is printed just above the cursor, or at the very bottom of the screen when in scrolling mode
19:57:35crashdis there any way to easily build a single plugin, rather than using the global make?
19:57:44crashdi had a look on the wiki, but i didnt see much
19:57:49Mikachuah, it was my own fault
19:57:59Mikachui changed it back but i never copied the .rock :)
19:58:37amiconn_Slasheri: Charging state reporting is rather inaccurate no matter what cell type
19:58:58amiconn_It's something like an educated guess for LiIon, and close to nonsense for NiMH
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20:00:40Slasheriamiconn_: yep, possible. But while charging with constant current, shouldn't the level be somewhat linear until we reach the trickle charge point (about 90% fully charged)?
20:01:05Slasheriat least we can show the charge level 0-100% until that point (just trying some calibrations)
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20:08:23Pieter_neat, chess on rockbox :)
20:08:49Pieter_but is it me or is rockbox getting quite a lot bigger and eating quite a lot more memory, even with rombox?
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20:20:47Slasheriamiconn_: in fact, it seems that charging state reporting seems to be quite accurate
20:21:29Slasheriafter a few minutes (2-3 min.) after charger has been inserted, the level will be about same as before charger and will stay there and rise slowly
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20:24:48tucozSorry for the off-topic, but this is a quite fun project. http://www.bytereef.org/m4_project.html . Help with decrypting messages encrypted with enigma during WWII.
20:26:58XavierGrSlasheri any news on tagcache?
20:30:45SlasheriXavierGr: no, but you will hear when something happens :) I will need to rewrite one big function to get it work properly
20:31:27XavierGrnice, just asking because that will be quite a neat feature.
20:31:39Slasheribut that charging indicator looks really promising now :)
20:31:46XavierGrhehe
20:32:30muesliiiXavierGr sorry to remind you..but what was wrong with ur h340 when u sent it to iriver?
20:32:37Slasheribefore inserting charger, the battery level was about 55%. Now after 10 minutes it shows up 60% so that calibration seems to be working
20:33:07muesliiihi Slasheri
20:33:17Slasherihi muesliii :)
20:33:40tucozSlasheri, nice. Is that h1xx your'e running?
20:33:42muesliiisorry for kimi ;)
20:33:45Slasheritucoz: yep
20:33:53tucozcool
20:34:12Slasheriunfortunately i have 1900 mAh ionity battery so the calibration can be little different with the factory battery (or maybe not)
20:34:49tucozSlasheri, do you want me to try something on the stock-battery?
20:34:55XavierGrmuesli you called?
20:35:03muesliiiyepp
20:35:06muesliiiXavierGr sorry to remind you..but what was wrong with ur h340 when u sent it to iriver?
20:35:08XavierGrah it was the USB OTG
20:35:16Slasheritucoz: that sounds great :) would you like to have a patch?
20:35:17muesliiiit wasnt working?
20:35:20XavierGryes
20:35:25tucozSlasheri, yes please :)
20:35:27XavierGrI always get the message about overcurrent
20:35:34Slasheritucoz: just a moment :)
20:35:50muesliiiand u pointed out that clearly?
20:35:58XavierGrso I sent the unit to iriver. And they sent it back without repairing it.
20:36:08muesliiihow long took it?
20:36:13XavierGrThen I sent it there again, and I am still waiting for it....
20:36:38muesliiihow long took it since they returned it in the 1sat time?
20:36:55XavierGr4-5 days to sent it to them. 10-15 to get it back
20:37:01muesliiiwow
20:37:10muesliiithats FAST anyway
20:37:27muesliiithey say 3-x weeks are standard
20:37:27XavierGr10-15 days and they didn't fix it though
20:37:54XavierGron 02-Feb-2006 I sent the player
20:38:07Slasheritucoz: http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox/charging_status_reporting.patch
20:38:18XavierGron 2006-02-06 they got it.
20:38:27Slasheritucoz: please try and see if the battery levels looks sane while charging/discharging :)
20:38:47XavierGron 10 Feb 2006 they sent it back.
20:39:14XavierGron 21-Feb-2006 I received it.
20:39:27muesliiifast....though they didnt sort it out
20:39:31XavierGrand then send it again on 25 or 28 I am not sure.
20:42:17tucozSlasheri, thanks
20:42:40crashdhmm
20:42:49crashdis there any sample, simple plugin examples floating around?
20:42:57tucozcrash, helloworld?
20:43:04crashdi mean a bit up from that
20:43:10tucozsnow perhaps
20:43:10moodelynanyone know a trick to make text draw on top of graphics in a WPS?
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20:46:48tucozSlasheri, do I just look for battery levels in debug-info somewhere?
20:47:28moodelynnudel.dsl.pipex.com/rbt_doh.png">http://www.nudel.dsl.pipex.com/rbt_doh.png <−− /me cries :-(
20:47:41Slasheritucoz: checking the battery icon on the statusbar should be enough :)
20:48:31tucozok
20:49:24tucozSo I just leave it charging for a while, and see what the level is after that
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20:51:12Slasheritucoz: that sounds good
20:52:51tucozSo you measure the voltage during the charging and reflect that on the battery-icon?
20:53:55Slasheriyep, it looks at different scale while charging
20:53:57crashdohh
20:53:59crashdthat's a nice wps
20:54:05tucoz(I am not really an electronics person) :-)
20:54:14crashdmoodelyn: is that on the wps?
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20:54:21moodelynnah i'm still making it
20:54:27crashdlooking good mate
20:54:32moodelyndunno what to do with the volume text though :( heh
20:55:25Slasheriin fact, it can still show about 5-10% too much charge while charging (because we don't really know when the battery is actually 100% charged, only when it has ~90% charge). But i think it's nicer if the charge bar still goes to 100%
20:55:34crashdmoodelyn: move it up ?
20:55:35crashdi dunno
20:55:42crashdwhat do you mean?
20:55:49Slasherior maybe it could be better if the indicator would stop at 90% and then animate between 90-100%
20:56:36moodelyni want the -xxdb label drawn on top of the volume bar below it (the glow of the bar overlaps with the label) but i don't think i can control the z-order of things
20:56:42moodelynseems graphics are always drawn on top of text
20:56:59crashdahh right
20:57:04crashdi see now
20:57:06moodelyncan't move the label up, except up a while line of text which is too far
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20:57:28tucozSlasheri, I think (!) it looks good. My battery was at 3.88 V when I started. Now, 8 minutes later it's 4.12. The level in the icon jumped maybe two pixels when I detached the charger.
20:57:42tucozAnd now it's at 4.00
20:57:49crashdmoodelyn: move it up a bit then? i dunno dude
20:57:56crashdpaste the WPS somewhere and ill take a look if you'd like
20:58:29tucozAnd the battery level is back where it where right before I detached the charger.
20:58:34tucoz*were
20:58:52Slasheritucoz: that sounds quite good :)
20:59:15JuryDoes anyone know how to install Rockbox on the 5G?
20:59:21Slasheriprobably i will still adjust that indicator a bit and add the remaining few percents animated
20:59:27crashdJury: follow the wiki guide
20:59:31crashdit's very simple
20:59:36Juryim just wonder do you do it in
20:59:37Juryslax
20:59:38Juryor windows
20:59:46crashdyou can do it easily in windows
20:59:50tucozOk, will you estimate a full charge after some time of trickle charging?
20:59:50crashdif you follow the wiki guide
20:59:57Jurykk thnx
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21:00:00crashdnp's
21:00:14sharpeas soon as i read, "follow the wiki guide," i was reminded of "follow the yellow brick road"
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21:02:34tucozgot to go, see you
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21:02:54moodelyncrashd: have a play if you like: nudel.dsl.pipex.com/Nudel_WPA_temp.zip">http://www.nudel.dsl.pipex.com/Nudel_WPA_temp.zip −− gonna to to the lounge for a bit, cyas
21:04:24Juryis rockbox really worth it? Or should i wait till a better version with the bugs that are taken out
21:04:47Juryi mainly want the gameboy ascpect of it
21:05:31crashdkk, ill check it out moodelyn
21:12:09crashdmoodelyn: does your wps use any none default font?
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21:12:56safetydanJury, you can dual boot if you don't like it. But then you'll miss out on gapless, ogg, flac, five-band equalizer, crossfeed, etc...
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21:50:25XavierGrwhere can I find a pac man rom?
21:50:45XavierGrdoes a mame pac man rom works?
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21:56:15PapricaXavierGr, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginPacbox
21:56:39XavierGrjust saw that, thanks
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22:03:19XavierGrlinuxstb: is there any intention to make the moving parts of pacbox in h100 more opaque?
22:04:16XavierGrit is very difficult to see them currently.
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22:28:08lostlogiclinuxstb: did you end up profiling pacman?
22:29:00Papricalostlogic, do you have experience with makefile?
22:29:06lostlogicPaprica: some
22:30:06Papricacould you make somthing with 3 lists for seperate the games,apps and demos? (plugins)
22:30:23Papricaor somthing better than 3 lists
22:30:24Paprica=]
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22:30:46Papricai want to do it
22:31:00lostlogicseparate lists inside rockbox, or just in the build system
22:31:03lostlogicand if the latter, why?
22:31:04Papricabut i dont have any knowledge on makefile
22:31:29Papricamm no, in rockbox
22:31:54lostlogicthen it's not primarily a build system problem, I think
22:32:04Papricathe plugins list is now long and i think that is it better to have menu with games,apps & demos
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22:32:50lostlogicI agree.
22:33:19Paprica=]
22:33:40Papricayou have other idea how to do it?
22:33:43lostlogichowever I'm not the person who's going to do it, because menus are just not my ball-o-wax
22:34:17lostlogicwell probably I would first setup the menus in code with one of the three owning the existing /.rockbox/rocks folder as it's folder to browse
22:34:32lostlogicand then creating a set of other folders which may also contain plugins
22:34:53lostlogicthen we could nee dot make some minor changes to the build system to allow plugins to specify what type they are so they get build to the correct folder
22:34:58lostlogicat least that would be my approach
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22:39:02t0masghehe, nice party song...
22:39:02*t0mas is now playing: The Bloodhound Gang - Uhn Tiss Uhn Tiss Uhn Tiss
22:39:17t0masnot irritating hardcore like... but still nice club like
22:42:13Shadowarrior13Awesome song
22:45:48t0masghehe
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22:45:57t0masthis one is nice too, but it's way more trance like...
22:45:58*t0mas is now playing: Dj Felix Project - On the floor
22:46:33*petur can't stand this type of music
22:49:45*t0mas normally preferes (classic) rock
22:50:01t0masbut I do like some of these tracks
22:50:16t0masespecially in the car :P
22:50:22peturt0mas, do you know 'De Mens'? Belgian rock band...
22:50:30t0masno
22:51:10peturwell ... they don't tour often in The Netherlands
22:51:31t0mashave some audio clip on their website?
22:51:57peturyes - www.demens.be
22:52:08t0mas(bad name to google on... in Dutch it means: the human, so you find a lot :P)
22:52:10petur(I created them :) )
22:53:00t0maswebsite? or you're the bands manager?
22:53:53peturI helped their webmaster a bit, I also mod the forum... my nick there is Luts
22:54:03t0masyou speak Dutch?
22:54:06peturyup
22:54:14t0masghehe, funny
22:54:45*t0mas likes guitar solo's... any song you can recommend?
22:54:46peturI'm also their number one bootlegger :D
22:55:21peturthey don't do big solo's...
22:55:47t0mas"in het gras" sounds promising
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22:57:34t0maspetur... if you speak Dutch, you just have to know this kind of music:
22:57:35*t0mas is now playing: art-officials vs partysquad - sta stil dan
22:57:52t0masand you must hate it if you don't like the other one I had :)
22:58:06Papricalostlogic, is this what do you mean? http://plugbox.rockbox-lounge.com/menu.patch
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22:59:17t0masPaprica: trying to split plugins by type?
22:59:36Papricayep
22:59:49Papricai can do only the menu thing
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23:00:07Papricadont have any knowledge on makefile
23:01:37amiconnSlasheri: Maybe charging state reporting will work somewhat for LiIon, though I want to point out that we're normally *not* charging with constant current
23:02:17amiconnActual usage of the unit will make the charging current vary (sometimes wildly). Disk spinup, backlight going on & off, CPU boosting...
23:05:00*amiconn thinks the iPod video has too large a screen for a dap
23:05:14Mikachuit's a dvp too
23:05:16Bgeramiconn it's *video* ...
23:05:21Shadowarrior13lol
23:05:31Shadowarrior13I don't think it's too large, it RUNS DOOM NICELY WHOOO
23:05:54lostlogicPaprica: yes
23:06:32Papricaok
23:06:38lostlogicblah, we need hold button detect on the ipod 5g. otherwise pacman is a big pain.
23:07:10t0masShadowarrior13: my pda runs it even better...
23:07:17t0massurely a good reason to have large screens
23:07:28amiconnI was looking at nudel.dsl.pipex.com/rbt_doh.png">http://www.nudel.dsl.pipex.com/rbt_doh.png . Lots of wasted space; this wps doesn't have any more info than my standard archos recorder wps
23:07:39t0masgames, and Lost/CSI episodes during long travels
23:07:57Shadowarrior13My iPod is more sexay than your PDA
23:07:59Mikachuwhat happened to reading a good book?
23:08:18amiconn(well, in fact it has next song info which I don't have
23:08:18t0masMikachu: I only read when I'm in my bed... or in my back garden
23:08:27t0masdon't really like to read when I'm in a train or something
23:08:32Mikachuamiconn: i have that on my nano :)
23:09:24amiconnLinus seems to be hiding ;) Committing stuff in the background...
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