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| 00:11:32 | practor | hello folks |
| 00:11:44 | Mikachu | nihao |
| 00:12:08 | practor | i'm using the latest rockbox for my nano and i've noticed that when i unplug from the USB port, i get a warning logo saying my battery is low |
| 00:12:24 | practor | at which point, i need to reboot the nano then it works fine. anyone else seen this before? |
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| 00:17:44 | Hansmaulwurf | LORDI! |
| 00:18:04 | Kohlriba | *g* |
| 00:18:22 | Kohlriba | Though Ukraine had hotter chix |
| 00:18:42 | Hansmaulwurf | yeah, the Lordi Chicks were ugly ;) |
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| 00:23:36 | powerrangersfan1 | hello can someone help me |
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| 00:23:53 | scottder | powerrangersfan1: whats the issue... |
| 00:23:55 | Hansmaulwurf | powerrangersfan1: with...? |
| 00:24:02 | scottder | I can try to help....no promises |
| 00:24:06 | scottder | :) |
| 00:24:08 | Mikachu | i am sort of cautious with cox.net hosts now |
| 00:24:16 | powerrangersfan1 | well if you can i download the ipod video download "daily build" what do i do now? |
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| 00:24:32 | scottder | Mikachu: just ones from Phoenix :) |
| 00:24:40 | powerrangersfan1 | i read the manual and it just confusing to me |
| 00:24:41 | Mikachu | you never know :) |
| 00:24:45 | Hansmaulwurf | powerrangersfan1: did you install the bootloader? |
| 00:24:47 | Mikachu | he had brasilian ips too |
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| 00:24:54 | powerrangersfan1 | were do i find that? |
| 00:25:26 | Hansmaulwurf | what OS do you use? |
| 00:25:32 | powerrangersfan1 | mac os x |
| 00:25:42 | scottder | Mikachu: he put his HTTPS server back up :) |
| 00:25:50 | powerrangersfan1 | my ipod is in "macintosh format" |
| 00:26:03 | powerrangersfan1 | cause i did try to install ipodlinux but i could not get that to work |
| 00:26:19 | Hansmaulwurf | powerrangersfan1: read this, i dont know much about ipod install, have another player, but i should help you |
| 00:26:21 | Hansmaulwurf | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX |
| 00:26:39 | powerrangersfan1 | ok |
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| 00:27:31 | powerrangersfan1 | well i am going away so i can read everyting! |
| 00:27:54 | powerrangersfan1 | btw any screen shots of what it will look like? |
| 00:28:08 | Mikachu | look at the wps gallery |
| 00:28:13 | Aghaster | Does anyone knows where can i download "DeDRMS" and "FairKeys"? |
| 00:28:40 | * | scottder checks if this is a music piracy channel |
| 00:28:41 | scottder | nope |
| 00:28:42 | scottder | :) |
| 00:29:14 | Hansmaulwurf | powerrangersfan1: with rockbox you can define your display by your own, here are some examples |
| 00:29:17 | Hansmaulwurf | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g |
| 00:29:48 | powerrangersfan1 | ok i am checking it now and installing it but will have to reformat everything on my ipod |
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| 00:30:42 | scottder | Me, I have a simple mod of the default WPS....green text on black background...works great :) |
| 00:30:42 | powerrangersfan1 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodMacOSInstaller |
| 00:30:50 | powerrangersfan1 | i found something better |
| 00:31:21 | Hansmaulwurf | hm yeah |
| 00:31:24 | Hansmaulwurf | looks easier ;) |
| 00:31:39 | Hansmaulwurf | why are there two install-wikis? |
| 00:31:42 | Hansmaulwurf | someone knows? |
| 00:31:46 | powerrangersfan1 | so what do i do use the one you gave me or the one i found? |
| 00:31:56 | Aghaster | scottder: I'm looking for that tool to free the music i legally bought from itunes |
| 00:31:58 | powerrangersfan1 | wich is easer btw i have mac format ipod not fat format |
| 00:32:49 | Hansmaulwurf | your site |
| 00:32:58 | linuxstb | Aghaster: This is a good place to start looking: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairPlay |
| 00:33:10 | Hansmaulwurf | but i cant help you with the install, i have a iriver player |
| 00:33:15 | Aghaster | thanks |
| 00:33:16 | scottder | Aghaster: last I checked....nothing worked on Music bought with Itunes above 6.0 |
| 00:33:23 | scottder | Best of luck with that |
| 00:33:37 | Aghaster | :/ i do not remember exact version |
| 00:33:40 | powerrangersfan1 | ok i will try it but how do i convert to fat format? |
| 00:33:56 | scottder | Well I believe it'de dependant on the version you are running now |
| 00:34:03 | scottder | but I could be wrong.... |
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| 00:34:11 | scottder | I save the hassle and just buy CDs :) |
| 00:34:22 | linuxstb | Hansmaulwurf: That Mac installer is "unofficial" - the IpodInstallationFromMacOS page is the only official installation page. |
| 00:34:41 | linuxstb | powerrangersfan1: The installation page tells you how to do that. |
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| 00:35:55 | powerrangersfan1 | oh |
| 00:36:08 | powerrangersfan1 | so i need to go downstars and get on a windows pc brb |
| 00:36:45 | linuxstb | You don't have to use WIndows to convert it, but it's a lot easier if you can. |
| 00:37:15 | * | scottder just loves being able to play ogg vorbis on his ipod :) |
| 00:37:37 | powerrangersfan1 | well widnows pc is easery then doing it the hard way |
| 00:37:50 | linuxstb | Indeed. |
| 00:37:53 | powerrangersfan1 | i hope it all works |
| 00:38:07 | powerrangersfan1 | ipodlinux did not work on video so i am trying it on rockbox |
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| 00:42:54 | falso | rockbox works |
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| 00:44:45 | Mikachu | we know :) |
| 00:45:45 | XavierGr_ | what it works? O RLLY? hehe |
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| 00:46:09 | Genre9mp3 | YA RLLY! |
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| 00:46:22 | XavierGr_ | :) |
| 00:46:50 | webguest97 | Hello rockbox |
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| 00:47:16 | webguest97 | can someone xith cvs access can commit this great patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5394 |
| 00:47:30 | webguest97 | good to have before a release |
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| 00:47:58 | webguest97 | wow, i have drunk too much, sorry for typing :) |
| 00:48:35 | webguest97 | good night for european rockbox guys |
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| 00:50:24 | sharpe | woo, done with 1/16 of the cpu instructions for the i8080 |
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| 00:51:53 | snaker | hi |
| 00:52:44 | snaker | how to can i load original firmware of ipod with rockbox bootloader? what key? thx |
| 00:52:55 | sharpe | while booting, hold menu |
| 00:53:11 | snaker | thanks sharpe |
| 00:53:11 | linuxstb | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ |
| 00:53:49 | sharpe | heheh... 0x14 out of 0xFF opcodes done... yay for hex... |
| 00:55:46 | linuxstb | What's the resolution of space invaders? |
| 00:55:55 | sharpe | uno momento |
| 00:56:14 | sharpe | 224x256 i believe |
| 00:56:59 | linuxstb | Just too high for the 5g - unless you rotate it like pacbox. |
| 00:57:11 | sharpe | what i was thinking of doing |
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| 01:00:43 | * | Falco98 listens to the crickets chirp... |
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| 01:03:43 | * | petur is backdropless and wonders why |
| 01:04:20 | Mikachu | any lemon trees nearby? |
| 01:04:28 | powerrangersfan1 | can i listen to music that is on my ipod through rockbox or do i need to boot into apple to get music |
| 01:04:44 | Mikachu | music is the main selling point of rockbox |
| 01:05:20 | powerrangersfan1 | oh but do i need to load in into rockbox or can it be loading onto my ipod by itunes? |
| 01:05:41 | Genre9mp3 | maybe we should call it doombox!? lol |
| 01:05:57 | sharpe | 32 out of ~255 opcodes done... |
| 01:06:01 | powerrangersfan1 | i am installing right now! useing the installer |
| 01:06:48 | powerrangersfan1 | so nobody did anwser my question how do i load music on to rockbox so i can listen to music? |
| 01:06:50 | linuxstb | powerrangersfan1: "TagCache" will index files transferred via itunes - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagCache |
| 01:07:12 | linuxstb | The FAQ is also helpful: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ |
| 01:08:08 | Falco98 | powerrangersfan1: the simple answer to your question is you can use music loaded by iTunes, and you can also listen to music you load yourself (which you couldn't listen to with the iPod firmware even) |
| 01:09:00 | Falco98 | the caveat is (as linuxstb just said) you must use TagCache to read the tag info from your iTunes files, as their proper filenames are gibberish invented by the iTunes software upon loading |
| 01:09:03 | powerrangersfan1 | ok |
| 01:09:34 | powerrangersfan1 | i will reply about tagcache affter i load my music 20.GB all night |
| 01:09:40 | Falco98 | however, you might find, once you're running rockbox, that you don't really feel like using itunes anomore :) |
| 01:12:15 | powerrangersfan1 | btw how do you switch from rockbox to apple os |
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| 01:13:14 | Falco98 | whoops |
| 01:13:23 | Falco98 | left for a sec.. hopefully he'll figure it out heh |
| 01:14:57 | Falco98 | anyway, i hope everyone will check out my latest patch here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5344 |
| 01:15:22 | Falco98 | it seems to work perfectly now, after a couple of tries :-P |
| 01:15:43 | Falco98 | though if anyone can break it, i'd like to hear |
| 01:16:36 | XavierGr | linuxstb: do you want me to update my patch regarding remote scroll options? |
| 01:16:48 | Falco98 | dinner time.. later all |
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| 01:17:11 | scottder | Cool idea Falco98 |
| 01:17:13 | scottder | Opps he's gone |
| 01:17:14 | scottder | :) |
| 01:18:31 | linuxstb | XavierGr: Yes, I think your patch now needs to undo my patch... :) |
| 01:18:46 | linuxstb | But I'm going to leave it to markun to commit. |
| 01:18:54 | scottder | Dueling patches? |
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| 01:23:05 | XavierGr | ok thanks |
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| 01:27:51 | Novus | i extracted the rockbox.zip file to ipod nano but im still getting the apple firmware when i reboot.. |
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| 01:32:36 | sharpe | painstakingly long process... |
| 01:33:00 | Mikachu | the size of whales |
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| 01:33:09 | Novus | any ideas? |
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| 01:42:47 | Novus | wtf, i dowloaded rockbox zip and still get apple firmware |
| 01:43:18 | Novus | when i rebooot!! |
| 01:44:25 | Novus | i extraced it to my ipod i got the folders that it says |
| 01:44:34 | Novus | and it still won't bloody work |
| 01:45:38 | PaulJam | what messages does the bootloader output before it boots retail os? |
| 01:47:13 | Novus | loading firmware |
| 01:47:31 | Novus | and then goes back to apple settings |
| 01:47:41 | sharpe | is there anything like, "error: -1" ? |
| 01:47:46 | Novus | no |
| 01:48:07 | sharpe | are you holding menu while it's booting? |
| 01:48:48 | Novus | yeah but now it just goes straight back to apple firmware |
| 01:49:28 | sharpe | are you sure 'rockbox.ipod' is in the root of the drive? |
| 01:49:39 | Novus | yes |
| 01:49:42 | Novus | «earHertz» |
| 01:49:49 | Novus | drive e: |
| 01:50:27 | Novus | should i delete the other folders like contacts, calender? |
| 01:50:31 | sharpe | well... does the bootloader say anything before it boots into the apple firmware? |
| 01:50:35 | sharpe | those shouldn't matter |
| 01:50:54 | Novus | it doesn't show anything anymore |
| 01:51:02 | Novus | it only said that when i did part e, testing |
| 01:51:28 | Novus | er part g |
| 01:51:37 | sharpe | so when booting, you never see a blue screen even for a moment? |
| 01:52:10 | Novus | no |
| 01:52:22 | Novus | only once when i first installed |
| 01:52:26 | Novus | booter |
| 01:52:48 | sharpe | have you restored your ipod after you've installed the bootloader? |
| 01:54:44 | linuxstb | Novus: Have you rebooted your ipod? i.e. hold MENU and SELECT (the centre button) down together for a few seconds. |
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| 01:57:51 | powerrangersfan1 | i finnily have my ipod in windows mode now to install it |
| 01:59:27 | Novus | oh no that did thanks guys for your help |
| 01:59:35 | Novus | it only took me a few hours to do it |
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| 02:07:50 | * | Aghaster is currently freeing his itunes music :) |
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| 02:08:01 | pjo | Hello! |
| 02:08:05 | Aghaster | hi pjo |
| 02:08:31 | pjo | Pls advise where to place rockBox source codes for CygWin |
| 02:09:00 | pjo | CygWin is installed |
| 02:09:24 | Aghaster | You want to compile rockbox yourself? |
| 02:09:39 | Aghaster | are you familiar with cygwin? |
| 02:10:12 | pjo | actually I want to patch it with Album Art and scrolling text and EQ |
| 02:10:40 | Aghaster | yeah, well, have you ever compiled anything? |
| 02:10:47 | pjo | can I place the RB source using Windows or shall I download it with CygWin ? |
| 02:11:07 | Aghaster | open up cygwin |
| 02:11:09 | pjo | I have compiled many using Linux but not with CygWin |
| 02:11:25 | Aghaster | the default directory in cygwin is located at c:/cygwin/home/<user> |
| 02:11:33 | pjo | now I am at the root |
| 02:11:51 | Aghaster | i'm currently on linux, i'm trying to remember cygwin |
| 02:12:07 | Aghaster | check in c:/cygwin |
| 02:12:11 | pjo | yeah my Linux FC5 does not work right now |
| 02:12:17 | Aghaster | k |
| 02:12:24 | Aghaster | you might try gentoo one day |
| 02:12:32 | Aghaster | i promise you won't get back on windows lol |
| 02:12:45 | pjo | CygWin is at I:\CygWin |
| 02:12:55 | Aghaster | ok, and what are the subdirs? |
| 02:13:16 | Aghaster | from what i remember, in /cygwin there is a directory in which there is a whole "linux" directory set |
| 02:13:31 | pjo | sub dir is http%3a%2f%2fdownload.rockbox.org%2fcygwin%2f |
| 02:13:49 | Aghaster | in I:\CygWin? |
| 02:14:11 | pjo | oh wait there is c:cygwin too and there are UNIX sub dir |
| 02:14:21 | Aghaster | okay |
| 02:14:21 | petur | phew... backdrop handling rewritten and looking good, wps backdrop seems to get loaded twice |
| 02:14:29 | Aghaster | just look in the home/user dir |
| 02:14:36 | Aghaster | thats where cygwin will pop out by default |
| 02:14:40 | Aghaster | when you open it |
| 02:14:47 | pjo | yes |
| 02:14:51 | * | petur needs some sleep |
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| 02:15:03 | Aghaster | so put the source code there |
| 02:15:09 | Aghaster | and you'll easily find it |
| 02:15:11 | Aghaster | in cygwinm |
| 02:15:13 | Aghaster | to compile it |
| 02:15:17 | pjo | under rockbox directory ? |
| 02:15:29 | Aghaster | i haven't compiled rockbox myself |
| 02:15:35 | Aghaster | and my help stops here |
| 02:15:40 | pjo | ok |
| 02:15:55 | pjo | i will make directory called rockbox |
| 02:16:04 | Aghaster | yeah, that's correct |
| 02:16:13 | Aghaster | compiling under windows is most of the time a pain |
| 02:16:16 | pjo | BTW shall I use nightly build or CVS ? |
| 02:16:18 | Aghaster | compared to linux compiling |
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| 02:16:32 | Aghaster | hum, nightly build will save you the time of compiling |
| 02:16:41 | pjo | ok |
| 02:16:42 | powerrangersfan1 | i cannot seem to get this way to work http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodMacOSInstaller |
| 02:16:51 | Aghaster | cvs is the latest development version, but not compiled |
| 02:16:52 | powerrangersfan1 | why....i am running tiger |
| 02:17:00 | Aghaster | nightly build is a compilation of the cvs at each day |
| 02:17:16 | scottder | powerrangersfan1: why not try using windows to do the install then |
| 02:17:25 | Aghaster | or linux ;) |
| 02:17:28 | powerrangersfan1 | how? |
| 02:17:38 | scottder | Use the windows instructions :) |
| 02:17:49 | powerrangersfan1 | i will still need that app? is it easer? |
| 02:18:46 | pjo | I am confused where to find nightly build |
| 02:18:56 | pjo | I found CVS though |
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| 02:19:49 | pjo | is nightly build here at http://www.rockbox.org/download/ ? |
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| 02:19:53 | powerrangersfan1 | ummm...all of this seems to hard is there any GUI for windows to install of this? |
| 02:20:14 | JEEBUS87 | so if u want to put a wps, do u just extract to ur ipod hardrive? |
| 02:20:32 | powerrangersfan1 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX#Convert_an_iPod_from_HFS_to_FAT3 that is what i am following |
| 02:21:11 | powerrangersfan1 | oh well i guss i am going to try it out and see if it works |
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| 02:22:19 | pjo | I found daily builds , not nightly builds |
| 02:22:22 | JEEBUS87 | how do u put music on just drag to ipod dirve? |
| 02:23:12 | pjo | JEEBUS: are you using Linux, Windows, OS X ? |
| 02:23:19 | JEEBUS87 | windows |
| 02:23:40 | pjo | Is your iPod iTuned ? |
| 02:23:59 | JEEBUS87 | yeah |
| 02:24:40 | pjo | do you want your iPod to be caompatible with Apple firmware in addition to RockBox ? |
| 02:24:59 | JEEBUS87 | no just rockbox |
| 02:25:35 | pjo | right now your music files are located in ipod_control\music\ |
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| 02:26:04 | pjo | and in music there are directoris with names like F02, F40, and so forth |
| 02:26:21 | JEEBUS87 | where is that? |
| 02:26:25 | JEEBUS87 | on rockbox? |
| 02:26:43 | pjo | if you use yamipod you can easily place music files into iPod retaining this structure |
| 02:26:55 | pjo | it is on iPod |
| 02:27:11 | JEEBUS87 | under which category |
| 02:27:16 | pjo | did you connect your iPod and can you see iPod drive from Windows ? |
| 02:27:42 | JEEBUS87 | yeah |
| 02:27:55 | JEEBUS87 | how do u put themes on? |
| 02:27:58 | pjo | make a change to Windows Explorer so that all hidden directories are displayed |
| 02:28:16 | pjo | can you see iPod drive ? |
| 02:28:22 | JEEBUS87 | yeah |
| 02:28:37 | JEEBUS87 | i downloaded a wps off the gallery and extracted it to ipod drive? |
| 02:28:38 | pjo | then go to iPod_control directory |
| 02:28:46 | JEEBUS87 | is that right |
| 02:29:01 | pjo | now |
| 02:29:27 | pjo | are you sure that you will never want to run Apple Firmware again ? |
| 02:29:42 | JEEBUS87 | yes |
| 02:29:49 | pjo | RockBox for iPod is still beta |
| 02:30:06 | pjo | and the target release is around November |
| 02:30:27 | JEEBUS87 | wtf when i go to themes |
| 02:30:32 | JEEBUS87 | and click on the theme |
| 02:30:38 | JEEBUS87 | it shows loading but does nothing |
| 02:31:05 | pjo | did you try to play a song ? |
| 02:31:17 | JEEBUS87 | no i dunno how to put song on |
| 02:31:32 | | Part falso |
| 02:31:34 | pjo | but you said that your iPod is iTuned ? |
| 02:31:45 | JEEBUS87 | i dunno if it is |
| 02:31:48 | pjo | there is no music in iPod ? |
| 02:32:05 | pjo | if it is iTuned there must be music in it |
| 02:32:13 | JEEBUS87 | when i installed rockbox does it delete ur music? |
| 02:32:31 | pjo | if there is no music , you can put music in any directory you want |
| 02:32:50 | pjo | no installing RB does not delete preinstalled music |
| 02:32:57 | german_snail | how do i install rockbox on my ipod? i don't care about overwriting existing firmware |
| 02:32:57 | german_snail | or it that on the manual... |
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| 02:33:36 | pjo | ou prepared in Windows, are they all mp3 ? |
| 02:34:38 | pjo | yes there is a good tut on how to install RockBox |
| 02:35:05 | pjo | are your music all mp3 ? |
| 02:35:24 | pjo | AAC got problems in RockBox |
| 02:36:43 | pjo | how to brows music is diffrent if you use iTunes |
| 02:37:10 | pjo | if you do not use iTunes it is simple , just browse it and select it |
| 02:39:04 | Aghaster | what are the current issues with rockbox for ipod? |
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| 02:39:25 | Aghaster | i want to go rockbox all the way, no more apple firmware |
| 02:39:30 | Aghaster | but i want to know what won't work |
| 02:39:43 | webguest48 | DRM and WMA, i guess |
| 02:39:48 | Mikachu | video if you have an ipv |
| 02:39:50 | Aghaster | i got a 4th gen ipod, with color display |
| 02:39:57 | webguest48 | then again you might not have WMA anyway if it's an ipod |
| 02:39:57 | pjo | AAc support is not perfect, integlation of iTunes playlist is through TagCache |
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| 02:40:25 | Aghaster | rockbox is directory based, so it doesnt work with itunes DB i guess? |
| 02:40:46 | Aghaster | i don't plan on using AAC or wma anyway |
| 02:40:50 | Aghaster | does it support flac? |
| 02:40:50 | pjo | RB works with iTunes directory structure with TagCache |
| 02:40:56 | Falco98 | basically it lets you use the iPod more like a *real* mass-storage-device, but you may be forced (out of sheer annoyance) to ditch iTunes |
| 02:41:10 | Falco98 | and yes, it supports FLAC |
| 02:41:15 | Aghaster | i want to ditch itunes anywya |
| 02:41:15 | pjo | plus sometimes mp3 192K playing, it hangs ! |
| 02:41:17 | Aghaster | i'm on linux |
| 02:41:19 | Falco98 | good :) |
| 02:41:31 | Aghaster | + i think Apple is removing too much digital rights with itunes |
| 02:41:37 | Falco98 | agreed |
| 02:41:43 | Aghaster | I'm currently freeing the music i legally bought from itunes. |
| 02:41:49 | Falco98 | haha |
| 02:42:01 | Falco98 | i don't believe in paying $1/song for lossy stuff |
| 02:42:08 | Falco98 | i'll download illegally, or buy the CD |
| 02:42:10 | german_snail | anapod > itunes :] |
| 02:42:12 | Aghaster | that's stupid music illegally downloaded on the internet is better than the ones taken from itunes |
| 02:42:12 | Falco98 | (often times, one and then the other) |
| 02:42:13 | Aghaster | meh |
| 02:42:14 | pjo | you would experience many odd things still with RB |
| 02:42:27 | Aghaster | well, at least itunes songs are lossless |
| 02:42:35 | Falco98 | oh? which ones |
| 02:42:40 | Aghaster | well, i think it is? |
| 02:42:47 | Falco98 | i figured iTunes was mp3 or lossy AAC |
| 02:42:56 | Aghaster | i got mine in m4p |
| 02:42:58 | Falco98 | though i could be wrong.. |
| 02:43:06 | pjo | AAc is not very well supported in RB because developers do not use AAC at all |
| 02:43:09 | Falco98 | how big are the song files on average? |
| 02:43:27 | Aghaster | arghhhh |
| 02:43:28 | Falco98 | if they're 50 - 60% as big as WAVs would be, they're lossless.. |
| 02:43:31 | Aghaster | its 128kbps! |
| 02:43:37 | Falco98 | if it's more like 10 - 15%, it's lossy |
| 02:43:40 | Aghaster | what a crap have i paid for |
| 02:43:41 | Falco98 | ew |
| 02:43:42 | Falco98 | haha |
| 02:43:53 | Falco98 | i'm thinking of signing up on magnatune.com |
| 02:43:55 | pjo | if you have many AAc files, it is dangerous to use RB only |
| 02:43:58 | Aghaster | but the only songs i bought were songs i couldnt find anywhere else |
| 02:44:00 | Falco98 | (or making my own iTunes competitor) |
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| 02:44:19 | Aghaster | does anybody reads 2600 here? |
| 02:44:19 | Falco98 | pjo: switching back to the iPod software is all too easy, though.. |
| 02:44:29 | powerrangersfan1 | i am confused what folde are they talkingabout unzip rockbox.zip to the top-level (root) folder on your iPod. |
| 02:44:35 | pjo | plus if you have DRMed AAc, you need to DRm them to be playable with RB |
| 02:44:35 | Aghaster | specially the "The DRM Plan" article in the latest magazine |
| 02:44:52 | Falco98 | powerrangersfan1: are you viewing your ipod as a removable hard drive? |
| 02:44:56 | pjo | i mean unDRM |
| 02:44:59 | Aghaster | :P |
| 02:44:59 | powerrangersfan1 | yes on a mac |
| 02:45:03 | Falco98 | Aghaster: you have a link? |
| 02:45:14 | Aghaster | no, its not available online |
| 02:45:21 | Aghaster | unless you download a scanned copy |
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| 02:45:25 | Aghaster | which i don't encourage |
| 02:45:26 | Aghaster | :P |
| 02:45:27 | Falco98 | powerrangersfan1: basically if your iPod is X: you unzip all that stuff right to X: |
| 02:45:29 | Aghaster | www.2600.com |
| 02:45:45 | powerrangersfan1 | huh? i am confused |
| 02:45:54 | Novus | once rockbox is installed how what dir is ur music in? |
| 02:45:56 | Falco98 | in other words, straight to the drive, not to any folder on it |
| 02:46:06 | Aghaster | hehe |
| 02:46:22 | Aghaster | is rockbox written in C++? |
| 02:46:25 | Falco98 | C |
| 02:46:27 | powerrangersfan1 | oh so just drag folder to my ipod not in no other folder |
| 02:46:27 | Aghaster | ok |
| 02:46:32 | Falco98 | power: correct |
| 02:46:52 | powerrangersfan1 | ok it copying all the files |
| 02:47:10 | Aghaster | Falco: what is funny about Apple's DRM is that you actually can burn the songs to a CD then re-encode them to another format... |
| 02:47:28 | Falco98 | Aghaster: yeah, i guess they don't count on peole thinking of that... |
| 02:47:29 | Novus | how do u install wps on ipod nano? |
| 02:47:39 | Falco98 | then again, cross-coding stuff like that is always bad for lossy reasons |
| 02:48:04 | pjo | do you know how to undrm Apple songs ? |
| 02:48:11 | powerrangersfan1 | no it did not work |
| 02:48:25 | Aghaster | Falco: It's only a proof that DRM is just a plan to make more money on honest users. They know there will be people who will re-encode the songs and distribute them over p2p |
| 02:48:25 | Falco98 | the ultimate downfall of DRM, of course, is the plain fact that anyone could re-record stuff via a line-in and make nearly-lossless copies that way, an reencode |
| 02:48:35 | powerrangersfan1 | i did what you said and when it got to the blue screen it said error then said going to orignal firewire |
| 02:48:46 | powerrangersfan1 | i spent along time doing all of the steps |
| 02:48:47 | Aghaster | their "anti-piracy" measures are simply futile, and only remove rights on honest users |
| 02:49:07 | Falco98 | power: did it say anything more specific? |
| 02:49:07 | Aghaster | yeah, of course |
| 02:49:15 | powerrangersfan1 | no |
| 02:49:37 | powerrangersfan1 | all i did is copyed they rockbox unzipped folder to my ipod |
| 02:49:44 | Novus | i downloaded a wps file and extracted it to my ipod drive |
| 02:49:53 | Novus | now when i click on it in rockbox it doesnt load |
| 02:49:58 | Aghaster | The point is... how can you encourage people to buy music legally over the internet if the songs downloaded illegally do not have the stupid restrictions legal songs have? |
| 02:50:06 | Falco98 | ok well plug the ipod back into USB and open up the disk.. confirm that you have a file called "rockbox.ipod" there |
| 02:50:30 | powerrangersfan1 | it says rockbox error -1 |
| 02:50:44 | powerrangersfan1 | ok i will but that file is inside the folder |
| 02:50:44 | Falco98 | Aghaster: yeah.. and also that people can buy reasonably-priced CDs (sometimes) with lossless, permanent copies, artwork, etc |
| 02:50:59 | Aghaster | yeah, real CDs are still the best |
| 02:51:06 | Aghaster | you got real material, and no DRM |
| 02:51:08 | Falco98 | power: if you have unzipped it correctly, that file should already be there |
| 02:51:12 | Novus | nobody here has rockbox installed? |
| 02:51:22 | Falco98 | Novus: i do.. on my h140.. why? |
| 02:51:45 | Novus | im having trouble putting a wps on there |
| 02:51:52 | powerrangersfan1 | ok i unzipped the download rockbox.zip and the zip came with a folder so i drag folder onto my ipod |
| 02:51:54 | Novus | well i have it on there but when i click it on it doesnt work |
| 02:52:10 | Falco98 | novus: so you can find it when you do "browse .wps files"? |
| 02:52:16 | powerrangersfan1 | do i drag folder or just the file |
| 02:52:20 | Novus | yes |
| 02:52:42 | powerrangersfan1 | yes to what? |
| 02:52:42 | Falco98 | power: in your ipod, you should have both a file "iriver.ipod", and a folder ".rockbox" |
| 02:53:05 | Novus | it says brushed_metal |
| 02:53:10 | Novus | what should i click |
| 02:53:34 | Falco98 | well, it *should* work if you click it, i suppose.. what is it doing after you do so? |
| 02:53:34 | powerrangersfan1 | i have a rockbox.ipod no .rockbox folder i think that might be a hidden folder |
| 02:54:00 | Falco98 | power: it might be hidden.. maybe you should try unzipping it out of the .zip file again to make sure |
| 02:54:08 | Novus | the screen goes blank into sleep mode |
| 02:54:12 | german_snail | once rockbox is installed, do you add/remove files like it's an external hdd? |
| 02:54:13 | Falco98 | power: even if you overwrite it, it won't do any harm |
| 02:54:21 | Falco98 | german_snail: yup |
| 02:54:47 | powerrangersfan1 | it says i need to place the folder to the top level root folder of the ipod |
| 02:54:53 | Falco98 | yes |
| 02:55:06 | Falco98 | in the same level as the rockbox.ipod file is |
| 02:55:20 | powerrangersfan1 | i am so confused |
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| 02:55:40 | Falco98 | power: you have to think of your folders like a tree |
| 02:55:47 | Falco98 | top level: your ipod |
| 02:55:53 | Falco98 | next level: any folders on your ipod |
| 02:55:57 | Novus | also falco98, what dir is the current music that you had on ipod at ipod |
| 02:55:58 | Falco98 | etc. |
| 02:56:10 | Novus | *before installing rockbox |
| 02:56:18 | german_snail | powerrangersfan1, when you go to "My Computer", what drive letter is your ipod? |
| 02:56:22 | Falco98 | novus: you mean what folder does iTunes keep music in? |
| 02:56:29 | Falco98 | (german: i believe he's on a mac) |
| 02:56:39 | german_snail | oh |
| 02:56:47 | Novus | yeah |
| 02:56:49 | powerrangersfan1 | the zip file i downloaded from daily builds when i used unzip or whatever it zipped whatever (a folder saying rockbox) and inside the folder it has rockbox.ipod that is all |
| 02:57:00 | german_snail | haha |
| 02:57:17 | powerrangersfan1 | so i drag the rockbox-ipodvideo-20060520 Folder "folder to my ipod" |
| 02:57:19 | german_snail | mac user ditching mac firmware |
| 02:57:19 | powerrangersfan1 | and nothing |
| 02:57:29 | Novus | i just used itunes to put music on the ipod |
| 02:57:37 | Novus | i never had it one folder |
| 02:58:19 | Falco98 | power: the rockbox-ipodvideo-... file is the .zip |
| 02:58:51 | linuxstb | Falco98: I'm guessing the zip file has been uncompressed into a folder with the same name as the .zip |
| 02:58:52 | powerrangersfan1 | yes and i drag that folder to my ipod from desktop |
| 02:58:58 | Falco98 | it contains a file called "rockbox.ipod" and a folder called ".rockbox" |
| 02:59:07 | Falco98 | both of those should be unzipped straight to your ipod disk |
| 02:59:15 | Falco98 | linux: prolly |
| 02:59:36 | powerrangersfan1 | no it only has rockbox.ipod unless it hidden |
| 02:59:55 | linuxstb | It's so much easier at the command-line: "unzip rockbox.zip -d /mnt/ipod" .... |
| 02:59:58 | Falco98 | you said you're on a mac,r ight? |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:06 | powerrangersfan1 | yes i found that .rockbox is hidden |
| 03:00:15 | Falco98 | ok |
| 03:00:15 | powerrangersfan1 | yes i am on a mac |
| 03:00:19 | Novus | wtf what dir is rockbox on? |
| 03:00:33 | Novus | what dir is ur music on |
| 03:00:52 | powerrangersfan1 | so what do i do........... |
| 03:00:55 | Falco98 | Novus: i'm not sure where iTunes sticks music, if that's what you're talking about |
| 03:01:07 | Falco98 | power: have you been able to view the hidden file yet? |
| 03:01:10 | Novus | backdrop, calender,contact, fonts, notes, photos, themes, wps, calenders |
| 03:01:18 | Novus | that what i get when i start my ipod now |
| 03:01:20 | powerrangersfan1 | yes |
| 03:01:38 | german_snail | argh, i need help, i extracted rockbox.ipod and .rockbox to my ipod's root dir, unplugged usb, rebooted ipod, but it's not running rockbox :/ |
| 03:01:40 | Falco98 | power: you copy the .rockbox folder to your ipod |
| 03:02:04 | Mikachu | overflow in rtfm buffer |
| 03:02:14 | Falco98 | german: and you followed all the other installation steps for iPod before copying the files over? |
| 03:02:25 | Falco98 | Mikachu: ROFL |
| 03:02:36 | powerrangersfan1 | ok |
| 03:02:39 | linuxstb | Novus: You shouldn't see the "backdrop, fonts, themes, wps" folders in the same place as calendar and notes - they should have stayed inside the .rockbox folder. |
| 03:03:12 | linuxstb | Novus: But now you can copy music anywhere on your ipod's hard disk. For example, I just have a folder called "Music", and I put everything in there. |
| 03:03:17 | powerrangersfan1 | thanks to all it worked |
| 03:03:23 | powerrangersfan1 | stupid hidden folders |
| 03:03:38 | Falco98 | hehe |
| 03:03:59 | Falco98 | power: i'm glad it worked, i was running out of ideas :-) |
| 03:04:07 | Novus | so the music i had prior did or didnt get deleted? |
| 03:04:23 | powerrangersfan1 | ok i have no songs on my ipod but when i click the folder rockbox nothing comes up |
| 03:04:26 | Falco98 | Novus: there is no reason it would have, unless you did something else to delete it |
| 03:04:46 | Falco98 | power: don't click the rockbox folder, there's no music in there |
| 03:04:49 | Novus | but where is on the ipod screen? |
| 03:05:12 | powerrangersfan1 | so then were do i find my music? |
| 03:05:16 | linuxstb | Novus: The screen you are looking at in Rockbox is simply the file browser. Press MENU to go to the menu... |
| 03:05:34 | german_snail | Falco98, which other steps? |
| 03:05:38 | * | Falco98 wishes someone experienced with RB on ipods was in here :-P |
| 03:05:54 | linuxstb | All the experience is here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ |
| 03:06:03 | Falco98 | german: on the ipod installation page, there are a few steps listed which you have to do before your iPod "knows" how to boot Rockbox |
| 03:06:09 | Falco98 | (see link above) |
| 03:06:30 | german_snail | oh, i just followed the manual |
| 03:06:38 | linuxstb | german_snail: Start reading here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPort |
| 03:06:47 | Falco98 | linux: is the iTunes music accessible via the rockbox filetree at all? |
| 03:07:06 | powerrangersfan1 | ok so i see 4 folder "contacts"...and at bottom says rockbox were do i find my music and such |
| 03:07:20 | powerrangersfan1 | also how about some better background |
| 03:07:35 | linuxstb | Falco98: You need to change the "Show files" option to "All" and then you can see the obfuscated filenames that itunes creates. TagCache is more practical. |
| 03:07:43 | Novus | so linux i downloaded a wps on and extracted it to my ipod drive |
| 03:07:53 | german_snail | thanks |
| 03:08:00 | Novus | i click on the wps screen it goes blank and goes to sleep mode |
| 03:08:07 | Falco98 | linux: i'm only wondering if the actual folders are even visible :-P |
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| 03:08:27 | Falco98 | Novus: you should select themes (nominally) by doing "browse themes" |
| 03:08:34 | linuxstb | Falco98: It's all inside a top-level "iPodControl" folder which is hidden. |
| 03:08:41 | Falco98 | ahh makes sense then |
| 03:08:55 | Novus | i did... |
| 03:09:00 | Falco98 | power: press the button to get into the menu (linux: reference?) and enable TagCache |
| 03:09:13 | linuxstb | Falco98: Err, "Menu".... |
| 03:09:33 | Falco98 | oh there's actually a "menu" button on ipod? |
| 03:09:34 | Falco98 | ok |
| 03:09:47 | Novus | what do u need for wps to work? |
| 03:09:54 | linuxstb | Yes, but ironically, the Apple firmware doesn't use it to bring up a menu.... |
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| 03:10:12 | linuxstb | In fact, I've no idea why Apple call that button "menu"... |
| 03:10:39 | Mikachu | it does go to the menu if you're in the wps |
| 03:11:01 | linuxstb | Only by accident. It should be marked something like "back" |
| 03:11:29 | linuxstb | But who am I to criticise Apple's UI design.... |
| 03:11:41 | Novus | so it says i only have 173 mb left |
| 03:11:49 | Novus | but i see no music on my ipod |
| 03:12:00 | Novus | in any of the directories |
| 03:13:00 | Novus | with rockbox installed |
| 03:13:04 | Falco98 | Novus: if all your music is iTunes stuff, it's hidden in rockbox unless you enable tagcache |
| 03:13:27 | Novus | Omgooses |
| 03:13:28 | scottder | Ipod_Control/Music/<horribly named mess of folders> |
| 03:13:44 | linuxstb | Novus: Have you read the FAQ? |
| 03:13:48 | Novus | yes |
| 03:13:54 | scottder | You can get in there if you view all files...but it's rather useless |
| 03:14:23 | pjo | to path scrollmargins.diff, same command as xxx.patch or different ? |
| 03:14:26 | Novus | so how do u enable tagcache? on ur ipod |
| 03:14:45 | Novus | thats probably why the wps isnt working |
| 03:14:47 | Falco98 | pjo: should be |
| 03:14:55 | pjo | ok |
| 03:14:56 | Falco98 | Novus: menu |
| 03:15:03 | Falco98 | then.. hmm.. |
| 03:15:16 | earHertz | how many bits in an int on Ipod? |
| 03:15:36 | linuxstb | Novus: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ#How_do_I_access_music_that_I_hav |
| 03:15:58 | linuxstb | earHertz: 32 |
| 03:16:14 | pjo | using path command for diff file did not work |
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| 03:17:17 | Novus | thx m8 but now im tryin to put the brushed metal theme on there but when i click it it goes black |
| 03:17:17 | Falco98 | pjo: not sure, there's a lot of other variables involved... |
| 03:17:23 | pjo | does anyone advis how to apply xxx.diff file to the RB source ? |
| 03:17:32 | Novus | *blank |
| 03:17:43 | Falco98 | Novus: you won't notice too much of a theme change 'til you actually get music playing such that u see a WPS |
| 03:17:49 | pjo | how about using diff command ? |
| 03:18:19 | linuxstb | pjo: Seen this page? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches |
| 03:18:34 | pjo | sure this is my favorite page |
| 03:18:51 | linuxstb | What's the problem with your patch? |
| 03:19:10 | Novus | how do u turn off the ipod? |
| 03:19:22 | Novus | nvm |
| 03:19:23 | pjo | i want to apply scrollmargins.diff |
| 03:19:33 | Mikachu | show it some pictures of old people |
| 03:19:39 | pjo | and I want to know exactly how to do it |
| 03:20:03 | pjo | patching xxxx.patch worked fine |
| 03:20:12 | german_snail | linuxstb, i extracted rockbox.ipod and .rockbox _before_ doing all those dos commands, what now? |
| 03:20:47 | Falco98 | german: i think as long as you do the necessary steps on the install page, it should work |
| 03:20:48 | linuxstb | pjo: The standard way is to type "patch -p0 < scrollmargins.diff" from the "rockbox" directory - i.e. in the directory containing apps, firmware etc. |
| 03:21:10 | pjo | that is what I did |
| 03:21:15 | german_snail | k |
| 03:21:20 | linuxstb | german_snail: So have you now done all the DOS commands? |
| 03:21:29 | german_snail | yeah |
| 03:21:35 | linuxstb | And what does your ipod do? |
| 03:21:44 | german_snail | oh it's working now |
| 03:21:47 | german_snail | cool |
| 03:21:55 | pjo | patch command asks "file to path" |
| 03:22:22 | Falco98 | hehe |
| 03:22:24 | linuxstb | OK. Try again with "-p1" instead of "-p0" |
| 03:22:30 | pjo | ok |
| 03:22:47 | sharpe | okay... 79 instructions implemented so far... |
| 03:22:52 | Falco98 | linux: BTW what does "-p1", etc, do? mess with relative path etc? |
| 03:23:04 | linuxstb | Or stop guessing, and open up the patch file in a text editor and look at the filenames at the top of the patch. |
| 03:23:08 | Falco98 | JdGordon: get my PM? |
| 03:23:17 | JdGordon | ye |
| 03:23:18 | pjo | ok |
| 03:23:27 | sharpe | only... 255-79 more to go. |
| 03:23:35 | Falco98 | k, just wanted to know what you thought :-P |
| 03:23:52 | JdGordon | ill leave it up to you... im done with that patch.. :D |
| 03:23:57 | Falco98 | BTW you should post a reply on the thread in General Discussion, O:-) |
| 03:24:03 | Falco98 | hehe |
| 03:24:10 | Falco98 | well i believe it's working pretty close to 100% now |
| 03:24:33 | Falco98 | that was the last bug i could discover, anyway |
| 03:24:37 | linuxstb | Falco98: Yes. If the filename in the patch is "rockbox/apps/settings.c", then "-p0" means that patch will look for rockbox/apps/settings.c, "-p1" will mean that patch looks for apps/settings.c and "-p2" will mean that patch looks for settings.c in the current directory. |
| 03:24:59 | Falco98 | linuxstb: gotcha.. i hadn't run across that quite yet |
| 03:25:54 | pjo | with p1 it displays error, can't find file to path at input line 8, Perhaps you used the wrong -p or −−strip option |
| 03:26:09 | german_snail | how do i shut down ipod now? i can't keep my eyes open to read another word |
| 03:26:18 | Falco98 | pjo: what folder do you have the diff in, and what files does it refer to? |
| 03:26:38 | Falco98 | german_snail: hold "stop" i think |
| 03:26:41 | pjo | it is in home directry of mine at CygWin |
| 03:26:44 | scottder | Falco98: I like the idea for your patch BTW for the crossfade |
| 03:26:56 | pjo | in the rockbox folder |
| 03:27:11 | german_snail | ta |
| 03:27:15 | | Part german_snail |
| 03:27:21 | pjo | there is diff and patch and patch worked |
| 03:28:11 | pjo | maybe this diff file is not compatible with the latest daily build |
| 03:28:33 | sharpe | 466 lines done... |
| 03:29:03 | sharpe | 95 instructions implemented... |
| 03:30:15 | Falco98 | scottder: thanks :) |
| 03:30:44 | Falco98 | scottder: found any more bugs? and, do you have the latest version? |
| 03:30:51 | Falco98 | all but the latest are slightly buggy |
| 03:30:52 | scottder | Not that I really use Crossfade much. But still an excellent idea |
| 03:30:54 | scottder | :) |
| 03:30:54 | Falco98 | (hopefully :-P) |
| 03:30:59 | Falco98 | yeah |
| 03:31:08 | earHertz | I'm teh decider! |
| 03:31:09 | Falco98 | well right now i'm listening to random albums |
| 03:31:16 | Falco98 | so i don't have crossfade on |
| 03:31:29 | Falco98 | but when i switch back to random, it'll be right there for me |
| 03:31:45 | Falco98 | and if i skip any tracks, it's *still* there for me :-P |
| 03:31:53 | Falco98 | imagine that! O:-) |
| 03:32:01 | scottder | earHertz: we'll just call ya W :) |
| 03:32:17 | scottder | BEHOLD>...the power of chee...I mean Rockbox |
| 03:32:17 | scottder | :) |
| 03:32:18 | earHertz | Call me "Q". For "quagmire" |
| 03:32:40 | scottder | Giggity |
| 03:32:41 | scottder | :) |
| 03:34:26 | Falco98 | all: quickly, does rockbox support SHN? i suddenly forget, and have never bothered trying |
| 03:35:04 | sharpe | 111 cpu instructions implemented in 512 lines... |
| 03:35:36 | JdGordon | sharpe: is this your c64 emulator? |
| 03:35:50 | sharpe | JdGordon: nope, space invaders ;) |
| 03:35:58 | JdGordon | haha, even better :D |
| 03:36:07 | JdGordon | how many more instructions r there? |
| 03:36:13 | sharpe | around 255 |
| 03:36:38 | sharpe | i'm somewhat porting SIDE |
| 03:37:07 | Falco98 | n/m, confirmed in the wiki |
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| 03:39:16 | Falco98 | WB power |
| 03:39:28 | powerrangersfan1 | how do i install these http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g |
| 03:40:20 | powerrangersfan1 | does anyone know |
| 03:40:26 | Falco98 | power: that'll be a bit tricky.. you should read the WPS FAQ first just so you know what we're talking about when we tell you stuff |
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| 03:40:56 | earHertz | man, those are pretty |
| 03:41:10 | Falco98 | yeah |
| 03:41:18 | * | Falco98 is jealous (sorta) of ipod users |
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| 03:41:52 | earHertz | Falco, having had an archos FM, I can tell you, the ipod is nicer. Lighter, less prone to problems |
| 03:41:53 | | Join Vladoman [0] (n=Vladoman@dsl-cus-098-041.de.clara.net) |
| 03:42:10 | earHertz | plus, you can watch porno movies on it |
| 03:42:15 | earHertz | I mean, educational podcasts |
| 03:42:19 | Falco98 | haha |
| 03:42:27 | sharpe | woo! half of the i8080 instrictions implemented |
| 03:42:27 | powerrangersfan1 | oh so then i should just stick with the plan background |
| 03:42:38 | * | Falco98 abhors the popularity of the term "podcast" |
| 03:42:59 | Falco98 | power: an easier thing to do, at least for a day or so, is to go into the menu and do "browse themes" |
| 03:43:28 | Falco98 | (will he have themes if he only has today's build?) |
| 03:43:29 | powerrangersfan1 | ok i will |
| 03:43:31 | earHertz | Falco98: yeah, the term sucks. But I've been listening to entre semester length courses form UBerkely |
| 03:43:33 | earHertz | nice |
| 03:43:41 | Falco98 | hehe |
| 03:43:51 | earHertz | no, sertioysly. IB31, aninal behavior |
| 03:43:57 | earHertz | animal |
| 03:44:13 | powerrangersfan1 | oh, do i need to keep downloading daily builds |
| 03:44:26 | powerrangersfan1 | is Tag Cache easy thing to do |
| 03:45:09 | Falco98 | power: not EVERY day, but it is occasionally good to do |
| 03:45:21 | | Quit powerrangersfan1 ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]") |
| 03:45:21 | Falco98 | and, tag cache should be easy once you've updated it once |
| 03:45:28 | earHertz | powerrangersfan1: the code is a bit diffult. useing it is easy |
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| 03:54:44 | Falco98 | all: are daily builds being shipped with the built-in extra WPS' these days? |
| 03:55:02 | earHertz | I wish C had default arguments |
| 03:55:18 | Mikachu | it does |
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| 03:55:32 | earHertz | it does? |
| 03:55:33 | Mikachu | well, maybe not |
| 03:55:50 | Mikachu | but you could cheat and do it |
| 03:56:12 | earHertz | how would you do that |
| 03:56:15 | earHertz | ? |
| 03:56:27 | Mikachu | i would have to think about that for a while |
| 03:57:37 | sharpe | 143 instructions implemented. |
| 03:57:51 | sharpe | 644 lines of code |
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| 04:00:05 | earHertz | sharpe, what ARE you doing? |
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| 04:00:47 | sharpe | making a switch statement with almost 250 entries to emulate the i8080, for space invaders? |
| 04:01:28 | earHertz | sure you don't want an array? |
| 04:01:38 | sharpe | why would i? |
| 04:01:45 | earHertz | nevermind ;) |
| 04:01:50 | sharpe | :) |
| 04:02:02 | sharpe | yay emulation of processors.. |
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| 04:04:09 | pjo | so long |
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| 04:04:37 | | Part Short1 |
| 04:05:31 | Aghaster | ... and thanks for all the fish |
| 04:12:04 | Falco98 | fish eh? |
| 04:14:24 | sharpe | 175 instructions... 756 lines... |
| 04:15:55 | sharpe | grrgle... |
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| 04:19:50 | scottder | grrgle? I think sharpe is choking! |
| 04:19:52 | scottder | ;) |
| 04:20:11 | sharpe | heh... |
| 04:20:12 | Falco98 | hehe |
| 04:20:20 | Falco98 | scott: have you checked out my other patch? |
| 04:20:32 | Falco98 | the "insert random folders" patch? |
| 04:20:38 | sharpe | my life is actually good enough for once :) |
| 04:21:14 | sharpe | not that it wasn't bad |
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| 04:23:59 | sharpe | woo! 191 done |
| 04:24:37 | Mikachu | yay go team |
| 04:26:43 | sharpe | i'm a team! yay1 |
| 04:29:47 | scottder | Falco98: can't say that I have... |
| 04:29:54 | scottder | I don't use any patches myself.... |
| 04:30:04 | scottder | just the latest and greatest from CVS :) |
| 04:30:17 | sharpe | i don't really use patches either... |
| 04:35:15 | Falco98 | ah.. then you haven't used my "random & track skip" patch yet? |
| 04:35:24 | sharpe | nope... |
| 04:35:26 | sharpe | sorry... |
| 04:35:43 | Falco98 | (i only use patches because these are features i wanted badly to write / instigate myself :-P) |
| 04:36:02 | Mikachu | i probably have more modified than original lines in my tree :) |
| 04:36:04 | * | Falco98 listens intently to his h140 playing back albums in apparently-random order, never knowing what's next (!!) |
| 04:36:09 | Falco98 | hehe |
| 04:36:14 | sharpe | heheh |
| 04:36:51 | Falco98 | Mikachu: how do you speed up the process of re-doing various patches, etc, when you update to a new build? |
| 04:36:52 | | Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 04:36:52 | PaulJam | Falco98: I think someone mentioned yesterday that you should change the line " {2, S_O(crossfade), 0,...." in settings.c . The first number (2) determines the number of bits needed to store the setting, and for 5 settings you need 3 bits instead of two. |
| 04:37:02 | Mikachu | Falco98: ? cvs update |
| 04:37:09 | Falco98 | ahh |
| 04:37:14 | Falco98 | Paul: thanks, i'll look at that... |
| 04:37:58 | sharpe | i'm listening to... reggie and the full effect... on my ipod... with rockbox! |
| 04:38:09 | Falco98 | PaulJam: how severe of an effect would this have, just out of curiosity? |
| 04:38:35 | Mikachu | the setting would not be saved |
| 04:38:38 | Falco98 | since the patch seems to work with that number unchanged.. |
| 04:38:44 | PaulJam | Falco98: if you set it to always the setting is not stored on reboot |
| 04:39:16 | Falco98 | ahh, i haven't actually tried "always" yet :-P |
| 04:39:34 | Falco98 | i'll update.. i guess i only need to update the .patch file itself, since it's a 1-byte change in this case... |
| 04:39:36 | sharpe | 207 instructions done... |
| 04:39:51 | Mikachu | Falco98: are you downloading daily .tar.bz2 files? |
| 04:39:57 | Mikachu | cause that's just silly :) |
| 04:40:06 | Falco98 | when i do use a new daily, that's how i tend to do it |
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| 04:40:32 | Falco98 | but i'm keeping my DEV folder separate from the builds i actually use, cuz i'm using that for development of only one patch |
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| 04:40:45 | Mikachu | that's one way to do it |
| 04:41:01 | Falco98 | (and i assume that if i'm coding 2 separate patches in the same path, when i do a diff, it'll catch everything instead of just the desired patch, right?) |
| 04:41:13 | Mikachu | yeah |
| 04:42:19 | Falco98 | which kinda boggles me as to how people do multiple patches at once.. unless they have multiple source folders set up |
| 04:42:29 | Falco98 | (which i do, but generally just 2ish) |
| 04:43:46 | Mikachu | well, you can edit out parts of the patch after you generate it |
| 04:44:34 | Falco98 | true |
| 04:44:49 | Mikachu | it's especially easy if all your changes are in separate files |
| 04:44:56 | Falco98 | though if you happen to be working in the same file with multiple patches you're pretty much screwed then :-P |
| 04:49:45 | sharpe | 223 instructions! |
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| 04:53:43 | Falco98 | PaulJam: do you remember who/when was mentioning it yesterday? |
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| 04:55:54 | PaulJam | Falco98: i'm not sure, i think amiconn or linuxstb. |
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| 04:56:08 | sharpe | okay, my thousandth line is, " { " |
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| 04:58:34 | scottder | He it's not the number of lines, it the motion of the code... |
| 04:58:37 | scottder | or something |
| 04:58:50 | sharpe | ? |
| 04:59:48 | Falco98 | hehe |
| 05:00 |
| 05:00:15 | * | Falco98 wishes linux would look at his patch and consider CVSing it :-P |
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| 05:02:16 | midkay | sharpe, i got factions today :) |
| 05:02:32 | Aghaster | Falco, i'm almost finished freeing my music :) |
| 05:03:05 | Aghaster | you wrote a patch? |
| 05:03:19 | sharpe | 239 instructions implemented |
| 05:03:37 | sharpe | 1056 lines of code :'( |
| 05:04:23 | midkay | sharpe: what's your char's name? |
| 05:04:31 | sharpe | wha? |
| 05:04:39 | midkay | <midkay> sharpe, i got factions today :) |
| 05:04:42 | sharpe | oh, cool |
| 05:04:43 | Falco98 | Aghaster: congratulations :-P |
| 05:04:52 | Falco98 | Aghaster: if you were asking me if i wrote one, the answer is yes |
| 05:04:53 | midkay | sharpe, you blind bastard.. :) |
| 05:04:57 | sharpe | :) |
| 05:04:59 | Falco98 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5344 |
| 05:05:00 | Aghaster | what does your patch do? |
| 05:05:01 | sharpe | i can't remember the name... |
| 05:05:05 | midkay | haha. |
| 05:05:07 | midkay | Shar Pie? |
| 05:05:14 | sharpe | no, but that is a good one. |
| 05:05:22 | midkay | in fact it is. |
| 05:05:33 | sharpe | it's also not trademarked. |
| 05:05:36 | Aghaster | cool. |
| 05:05:40 | midkay | haha. |
| 05:05:45 | Falco98 | it's pretty simple.. instead of forcing a user to select "crossfade when in shuffle mode" OR "crossfade upon track skip", it allows the user to select "both" without having to set crossfade to "always" |
| 05:05:52 | Aghaster | yeah, i just read |
| 05:06:03 | sharpe | midkay: i think one is "Haste Mimikry" |
| 05:06:10 | Aghaster | Falco, is Rockbox translated in Esperanto? |
| 05:06:16 | midkay | sharpe, alright. |
| 05:06:17 | Falco98 | heh, no idea :-P |
| 05:06:24 | sharpe | not quite sure about the other though. |
| 05:06:28 | Falco98 | you could check to see whether the builds ship with an "esperanto.lang" file |
| 05:06:30 | Aghaster | okay, then you might have an esperanto translation coming lol |
| 05:06:40 | midkay | sharpe, well, the friends list only requires one name on the account to be added.. |
| 05:06:47 | Aghaster | does rockbox uses unicode? |
| 05:06:55 | midkay | any other characters logged on under that account will show up next to the friendslist name in parenthases. |
| 05:07:04 | midkay | e.g. Haste Mimikry (Shar Pie). |
| 05:07:18 | sharpe | i'll smack you with the spelling book! parentheses! |
| 05:07:25 | midkay | WTF. |
| 05:07:28 | midkay | okay. wait. |
| 05:07:41 | midkay | first, wtf at me using parentheses more than once in a day. |
| 05:07:50 | midkay | second, wtf at ????. |
| 05:07:53 | midkay | third, wtf. i misspelled it again. |
| 05:07:54 | midkay | :( |
| 05:08:01 | sharpe | lol... |
| 05:08:20 | Falco98 | Aghaster: you happen to have a link to "The DRM plan" article? |
| 05:08:24 | Falco98 | or is it only in print? |
| 05:08:27 | sharpe | i should have a script that corrects you everytime you use 'parenthases' |
| 05:08:29 | Aghaster | its only print |
| 05:08:34 | midkay | sharpe, haha. |
| 05:08:35 | Aghaster | but we should try finding it on the internet |
| 05:08:38 | Aghaster | maybe someone scanned it |
| 05:09:43 | sharpe | scary. i also thought one of these instructions was named 'dj' |
| 05:09:49 | sharpe | almost. |
| 05:09:59 | sharpe | not also... |
| 05:10:07 | sharpe | how'd i get also out of almost? |
| 05:10:32 | midkay | haha, |
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| 05:14:23 | Aghaster | Falco98: i found out a pdf on emule, but it may take long to download. its emule |
| 05:14:51 | Falco98 | ok |
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| 05:17:07 | scremo | hello? |
| 05:17:27 | sharpe | goodnight |
| 05:17:43 | earHertz | we're sorry, nobody is IRCing at the momnet, leas try your converstion later. Goodbye |
| 05:17:57 | midkay | earHertz, it'd be even more convincing sans typos.. |
| 05:17:58 | midkay | :) |
| 05:18:01 | sharpe | it's funny pronouncing typos |
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| 05:18:12 | earHertz | tyeah, it's like I have an accent |
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| 05:18:15 | midkay | haha. |
| 05:18:26 | sharpe | midkay, have i told you how i'm implementing the cpu for the space invaders emulator? |
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| 05:19:16 | midkay | sharpe, you're working on a space invaders emulator? |
| 05:19:20 | sharpe | yep. |
| 05:19:30 | midkay | pretty, uh, pretty, uh, uh, pretty, um, pretty, uh, cool. |
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| 05:19:52 | sharpe | well, i don't have to worry about keyboard input with this... :) |
| 05:20:01 | midkay | c64 emu?1! |
| 05:20:13 | sharpe | it's on hold at the moment... |
| 05:20:17 | midkay | i mean. |
| 05:20:18 | midkay | well. |
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| 05:20:25 | midkay | how are you implementing the cpu for the space invaders emulator. |
| 05:21:00 | sharpe | for interpreting the opcodes, one switch statement with ~245 cases... |
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| 05:21:50 | sharpe | which i just finished... |
| 05:22:03 | midkay | wow. |
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| 05:22:31 | sharpe | 1135 lines... |
| 05:24:24 | midkay | :E |
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| 05:25:02 | sharpe | i would so cry right now if i accidentally deleted it. |
| 05:26:34 | scremo | i need help |
| 05:26:41 | midkay | haha. |
| 05:26:57 | sharpe | we can help. |
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| 05:28:17 | earHertz | OK, help me with an interface issue. The ipod has a scroll wheel. How should we report scroll information. One way is to report the actual scroll wheel delta, and let the client code use that "raw" number. The other way is to "chunk" the value into, say, 8 virtual keys: slow scroll fwd, medium fwd, fast_fwsd, etra fast fwd, and corresponding for backward. Chunking makes for a better... |
| 05:28:18 | earHertz | ...interface −− client code can handle each one as a "key", but it loses teh granulairy of reporting teh actual value. Your thoughts, gentlemen? |
| 05:29:02 | Falco98 | amiconn: u around? |
| 05:29:55 | sharpe | earHertz: arr! burn the code! arr! |
| 05:30:09 | earHertz | you're a pirate? |
| 05:30:24 | sharpe | arr, for the next few minutes, aye. |
| 05:30:34 | Falco98 | bus pirates!! |
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| 05:32:42 | sharpe | Arr... why be i8080.h needed to build, when we've got no reference to it, nor a file named that... Arr... |
| 05:32:50 | Falco98 | http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2719394?pg=latest&htv=12 |
| 05:34:20 | Falco98 | PaulJam: I found the logs where amiconn found the bug in my patfh |
| 05:34:22 | Falco98 | patch* |
| 05:34:33 | * | Falco98 wonders why noone mentioned it on the flyspray page :-P |
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| 05:36:25 | Falco98 | JdGordon: still around? |
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| 05:41:21 | Falco98 | does anyone happen to know of (or know how to write real quick) a function in RB to test whether the "next song" is in the same DIR as the "current song" |
| 05:41:22 | Falco98 | ? |
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| 06:07:32 | sharpe | woo! it compiles |
| 06:07:33 | sharpe | ! |
| 06:07:43 | Aghaster | quick question: in what directory should i put my music on my ipod for rockbox? |
| 06:07:55 | Falco98 | Aghaster: any directory you feel like... |
| 06:08:12 | Falco98 | many of us have music simply in "\Music" |
| 06:08:14 | Aghaster | ok, i just dont see where i can browse my folders |
| 06:08:40 | Falco98 | when you first power-on in RB it should come up with a view of the top directory, including any folders you have there |
| 06:08:47 | Falco98 | (if you don't have any folders, you won't have much there) |
| 06:08:52 | RoC_MM | Can someone see if this pulls up a password box? http://68.142.29.8:6000 |
| 06:09:12 | Falco98 | RoC_MM: nope, just "restricted" |
| 06:09:20 | RoC_MM | o |
| 06:09:24 | RoC_MM | firefox won't pull that up |
| 06:09:28 | sharpe | RoC_MM: ie does |
| 06:09:31 | RoC_MM | "security restrctions" |
| 06:09:39 | RoC_MM | it gives a password box? |
| 06:09:41 | sharpe | aye |
| 06:09:43 | RoC_MM | cool |
| 06:09:45 | RoC_MM | thanks :-) |
| 06:09:49 | sharpe | welcome |
| 06:09:58 | Aghaster | hum... i loaded a small "void" game, you know that game where you destroy asteroids with a small spaceship |
| 06:10:01 | Aghaster | but i dont know how to get out |
| 06:10:13 | sharpe | try select+menu |
| 06:10:31 | Aghaster | won't that reboot my ipod? |
| 06:10:39 | sharpe | not if you just press them, and not hold them |
| 06:10:45 | sharpe | most plugins use that to exit |
| 06:11:01 | Aghaster | doing that + holding menu after worked. |
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| 06:11:42 | sharpe | something's wrong... |
| 06:11:56 | sharpe | spinv.rock is 40 bytes... |
| 06:12:58 | sharpe | ah, probably because i haven't actually used the function with the switches. |
| 06:13:00 | RoC_MM | thanks sharpe |
| 06:13:05 | sharpe | you're welcome |
| 06:17:06 | sharpe | woo, space invaders takes up 16kb for ram/rom in memory. |
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| 06:21:39 | sharpe | i don't think i'll have to write any code to rotate the screen, as it's already rotated in memory... |
| 06:25:05 | midkay | sharpe, let's Factions! |
| 06:25:23 | sharpe | you mean... go downstairs? |
| 06:25:32 | midkay | i ser-pose! |
| 06:25:43 | sharpe | it's like, midnight for me :) |
| 06:25:51 | midkay | what a bastard. |
| 06:25:52 | midkay | :) |
| 06:25:56 | sharpe | ;) |
| 06:26:17 | sharpe | i know i'll probably get on tomorrow though... |
| 06:26:32 | midkay | good2hear. |
| 06:26:37 | sharpe | werd. |
| 06:27:00 | sharpe | i'm just going to finish these few parts of the emulator, see if i can get it working, and go to bed. |
| 06:27:11 | midkay | i, uh, you, uh, bippity boppity gnome. |
| 06:27:22 | sharpe | hell? |
| 06:28:27 | sharpe | hmm |
| 06:28:35 | sharpe | how does spinv sound for a name? |
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| 06:31:57 | midkay | well, uh, you know, uh, bippity boppity, uh, space invaders, uh, hell no, uh, gnome power. |
| 06:32:04 | sharpe | ah. |
| 06:32:10 | sharpe | righto. |
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| 06:36:06 | midkay | bippity boppity gnome. |
| 06:36:06 | Aghaster | There is no Esperanto translation available. As soon as i got it ready on my ipod, i'll start working at it |
| 06:36:18 | Aghaster | and it seems we can translate it orally too? |
| 06:36:26 | Aghaster | that might be quite kewl to do :P |
| 06:36:57 | midkay | haha. he said oral. |
| 06:37:09 | midkay | Aghaster, um, hm, i'm not sure, honestly. :) |
| 06:37:15 | Aghaster | uh |
| 06:37:23 | Aghaster | isn't there voice translation? |
| 06:37:27 | Aghaster | for blind people |
| 06:37:57 | Aghaster | I know you guys wanna hear my voice speaking Esperanto XD |
| 06:38:01 | midkay | haha. |
| 06:38:07 | Aghaster | :P |
| 06:38:18 | Aghaster | lol |
| 06:40:03 | Aghaster | hey, the sound just keeps skipping :/ |
| 06:42:11 | midkay | make sure peak meters aren't visible and EQ is off.. |
| 06:42:16 | midkay | got to run, bbi a bit.. |
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| 06:49:03 | Aghaster | what can cause skippy sound on ipod? |
| 06:49:11 | Aghaster | it seems its only some songs that do skip. |
| 06:58:53 | sharpe | isn't PC &= 0xFFFF redundant? where PC is a short... |
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| 07:02:08 | Aghaster | how do i get back to my ipod's root in rockbox? |
| 07:02:55 | sharpe | keep pressing back (left) |
| 07:04:26 | Aghaster | this gets me to the music i'm currently listenning |
| 07:05:00 | sharpe | press select, and try it, if you're in the wps |
| 07:05:37 | * | EbErT wishes there was a good way to check for corrupted id3 tags |
| 07:05:49 | EbErT | keeps hanging up on forced id3 cache on ipod |
| 07:06:15 | EbErT | driving me insane! if that part worked, i'd be real satisfied with the ipod builds so far |
| 07:06:50 | Aghaster | it skips >:[ |
| 07:07:01 | Aghaster | argh! |
| 07:07:03 | EbErT | you put on equilizer? |
| 07:07:23 | EbErT | are you running id3 cache in background? |
| 07:07:50 | Aghaster | equalizer is off |
| 07:07:53 | Aghaster | and it skips |
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| 07:08:36 | EbErT | lotsa reasons probably. have u gotten id3 tags to work? |
| 07:08:46 | Aghaster | id3 tags show |
| 07:08:47 | Aghaster | yes |
| 07:08:53 | EbErT | how many songs in collection? |
| 07:09:02 | Aghaster | i only imported a hundred |
| 07:09:35 | EbErT | i have a corrupted one somewhere, made my cpu go crazy on itunes too |
| 07:09:54 | Aghaster | a corrupted id3 tag? |
| 07:10:43 | EbErT | or song |
| 07:10:52 | EbErT | out of 5600 songs |
| 07:10:59 | Aghaster | do software exist to detect song corruption? |
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| 07:13:02 | Aghaster | what is the song file format the best supported by rockbox? |
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| 07:23:11 | EbErT | i need software that detects corruption |
| 07:23:13 | EbErT | and fast |
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| 07:23:36 | EbErT | lotsa formats accepted by rockbox. look into the manual |
| 07:23:46 | EbErT | wma, mp3, ogg, aff, aac |
| 07:28:44 | ze | my beloved karma fell hard on cement and now the HD's dead )o: |
| 07:29:46 | EbErT | my feelings go out to u ze |
| 07:29:59 | ze | before i go ahead and get a new HD or a used karma, anyone have recomendations on something that can be had brand-new that'd be acceptable to a karma-lover? |
| 07:30:29 | ze | i have to say, i love the scroll wheel, the long battery life, and the support for ogg and flac |
| 07:30:44 | ze | and the gapless and responsivenes in general |
| 07:31:52 | ze | i could only love this thing more if rockbox ran on it :/ |
| 07:31:53 | ze | heh |
| 07:32:26 | ze | and at this point i'm almost certainly going to get another to replace it |
| 07:32:42 | ze | unless somebody knows of something new that can actually win me over heh |
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| 07:34:54 | ze | part of the thing is it sucks to go spending $150 on something thats not even new |
| 07:35:07 | EbErT | that's hd mp3 players for u |
| 07:35:20 | EbErT | money is worth much less to people nowadays |
| 07:35:36 | sharpe | blar... |
| 07:35:37 | sharpe | g'night. |
| 07:35:38 | EbErT | i'd say just get something that sounds really good and holds lots |
| 07:35:52 | EbErT | but that's what's important to me |
| 07:35:56 | ze | but my screen ended up broken too, and i broke my hold switch while dissecting it |
| 07:36:19 | EbErT | does shuffle settings have to be saved, or does it save it itself |
| 07:36:20 | ze | not to mention the new hd's i've found that aren't more than the whole unit are of questionable compatibility as they aren't specific on model number or height or interface |
| 07:36:50 | EbErT | don'[t do that. since screen's gone, just get a different one |
| 07:37:00 | ze | so overall i'd be more inclined to get the whole new unit and then have a spare battery and mostly-intact mainboard |
| 07:37:05 | ze | well i can get a new screen for like $20 |
| 07:37:59 | ze | there's a seller on ebay who's got each individual part of the karma for prices around that and many of each in stock |
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| 07:48:15 | EbErT | does shuffle settings have to be saved, or does it save it itself |
| 07:48:22 | EbErT | seems silly if it has to be |
| 07:50:43 | midkay | shuffle settings? |
| 07:51:04 | EbErT | shuffle on/off |
| 07:51:11 | midkay | of course it saves itself.. |
| 07:51:22 | midkay | all settings save themselves. |
| 07:51:25 | EbErT | when i turn it back on, its always on |
| 07:51:42 | midkay | how do you turn it off, and what is 'it'? |
| 07:51:48 | EbErT | oh, i was writing the file. guess i misunderstood what that was for |
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| 07:52:04 | EbErT | when i turn ipod on, shuffle is on. sry |
| 07:52:16 | midkay | how do you turn it off? |
| 07:52:22 | EbErT | hold play |
| 07:52:39 | EbErT | lemme test it again. |
| 07:52:43 | midkay | not sure what's up then, i don't have trouble with it. |
| 07:53:13 | EbErT | but my BIG problem is not having id3 tags cacheing |
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| 07:53:25 | EbErT | i force it, and it hangs up 3 mins in |
| 07:53:36 | EbErT | i've got a corrupted id3 tag or song |
| 07:53:38 | midkay | tags caching? |
| 07:53:47 | midkay | what model? |
| 07:54:00 | EbErT | ipod photo 60gb |
| 07:55:45 | midkay | pretty weird. |
| 07:55:56 | ze | midkay: |
| 07:56:06 | ze | midkay: my karma needs replacement |
| 07:56:23 | ze | midkay: before i get a used karma in its place |
| 07:56:34 | ze | midkay: any recomendations of something new to get instead? |
| 07:56:43 | midkay | ze, how about an iPod 5G? :) |
| 07:56:43 | ze | midkay: something that i'd actually like at least as well as my karma? |
| 07:56:52 | midkay | i haven't used karmas too extensively.. |
| 07:56:54 | ze | midkay: i'm serious :p |
| 07:57:09 | midkay | but the ipods+rockbox have as-good or better sound quality, surely, and definitely more configurable and stuff. |
| 07:57:12 | EbErT | wait, who makes karma |
| 07:57:15 | midkay | 5-band parametric eq, just like the karma.. |
| 07:57:18 | midkay | EbErT, Rio. |
| 07:57:34 | goffa | zs... if color screen isn't a big deal i REALLY like my h140 |
| 07:57:38 | midkay | ze, crossfeed.. crossfade, but even more extensive, if you like that kind of thing.. we now have TagCache for browsing like the karma.. |
| 07:57:46 | goffa | i've got a karma, x5l, and an h140 |
| 07:57:52 | ze | i'd love something with rockbox |
| 07:57:53 | midkay | some kind of rockboxed player. :) |
| 07:58:02 | goffa | you can get a one for like $200 on ebay |
| 07:58:03 | midkay | ze, you might like the H100s, yeah.. |
| 07:58:06 | ze | but i'm pretty hooked on the scrollwheel, ogg, flac |
| 07:58:10 | midkay | similar priced, but rockbox-capabile.. |
| 07:58:11 | goffa | that's where i got mine |
| 07:58:21 | midkay | rockbox = ogg, flac, wavpack, everything.. |
| 07:58:22 | goffa | my karma wheel brok :( |
| 07:58:22 | EbErT | any suggestions for type of app to find corruped file on ipod? |
| 07:58:30 | midkay | corrupted file? |
| 07:58:36 | goffa | broke |
| 07:58:51 | EbErT | yeah |
| 07:58:52 | ze | goffa: sucks |
| 07:59:02 | midkay | ze, well, yeah, anyways, the h100 series is probably quite similar to the karma.. |
| 07:59:16 | EbErT | it ran my itunes cpu usage way up. took me tons of time to figure that out |
| 07:59:17 | goffa | yeah... in a way.. prompted me to get my x5 and h140 |
| 07:59:20 | goffa | really happy with those |
| 07:59:29 | ze | goffa: my karma came with a dead line... other than that everything's been fine untill it got broken by mishaps |
| 07:59:30 | goffa | i don't miss the wheel so much now |
| 07:59:59 | ze | i really appreciate the wheel for jumping quickly in seeks and file lists |
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| 08:00:08 | goffa | yeah |
| 08:00:15 | goffa | scrolling is better on rockbox imo |
| 08:00:15 | midkay | ze, a 30gb ipod could be found for probably $275, and it has the touch wheel.. we'll have accelleration for that soon, surely.. |
| 08:00:21 | goffa | you might miss it for the seek |
| 08:01:01 | midkay | ze, the ipod's stock firmware is a great example for the touch wheel, trying to pick a song out of a list of like 600 songs for me is .. incredibly quick. :) |
| 08:01:01 | goffa | i never seek so that wasn't an issue |
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| 08:01:25 | ze | midkay: if this wheel has acceleration, its pretty seemless... it feels very 1:1 |
| 08:01:33 | midkay | i was messing around with it a couple days ago, only took me like 5-6 seconds to seek out a song in the middle-ish of a 600-song or so list.. |
| 08:01:34 | ze | i move quick, it moves as quick |
| 08:01:35 | ze | heh |
| 08:02:09 | midkay | ze, well, i couldn't love my 5G more. :) |
| 08:02:33 | ze | midkay: ipod's not desirable as far as price and aesthetic go heh |
| 08:02:40 | goffa | yeah |
| 08:03:06 | goffa | you can do better price/look/quality wise than the ipod |
| 08:03:08 | midkay | ze, hm, maybe look into an H100 or H300 then.. |
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| 08:03:24 | midkay | goffa, what do you mean, quality wise? |
| 08:03:36 | goffa | seems like sound quality is lower on ipod |
| 08:03:50 | midkay | oh, you forgot to mention you had one. |
| 08:03:54 | ze | goffa: i've heard that a lot too |
| 08:04:00 | goffa | maybe it was the crap files that were on there |
| 08:04:03 | goffa | i don't own one |
| 08:04:03 | midkay | ze, rockboxwise or apple-firmware-wise? |
| 08:04:11 | goffa | apple firmware |
| 08:04:16 | goffa | can't comment on rockbox on the ipod |
| 08:04:24 | midkay | i thought the apple firmware sounded pretty good, but rockbox completely destroys it.. |
| 08:04:46 | goffa | so that's a consideration too ze |
| 08:05:04 | ze | i've no idea, i've just seen lots of places that the karma had better sound quality than ipod, including notes of surprise about such considering how similar internals they have |
| 08:05:09 | midkay | ze, yeah, well, again, i have no karma experience as far as quality, and i've barely toyed with the UI.. |
| 08:05:24 | midkay | ze, well, those are comparing apple's firmware, keep that in mind. :) |
| 08:05:37 | goffa | yeah.. i was happy with karma's sound |
| 08:05:37 | ze | did apple just choose crappy decoding engines? |
| 08:05:38 | ze | heh |
| 08:05:43 | goffa | best sound has to be the x5 though |
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| 08:05:51 | midkay | ze, yeah, they licensed some crap from thomson or something. :) |
| 08:05:54 | goffa | among the stuff i've heard |
| 08:06:03 | ze | goffa: who makes the x5? |
| 08:06:13 | ze | and the h[13]00 are what, iriver? |
| 08:06:14 | midkay | very very noticeable difference between rockbox and apple firmware.. maybe it's the equalizer.. |
| 08:06:19 | midkay | yeah.. |
| 08:06:22 | midkay | cowon makes the x5. |
| 08:06:23 | goffa | ze: cowon |
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| 08:06:29 | goffa | cowonamerica.com |
| 08:06:41 | goffa | or iaudio.com |
| 08:07:07 | goffa | but you get more storage/battery life with the h140 |
| 08:07:11 | midkay | i've heard their firmware is pretty slow but sounds quite good.. they seem like they know what they're doing, also, flac and ogg support, iirc.. |
| 08:07:21 | goffa | yeah... |
| 08:07:28 | goffa | their firmware is really slow |
| 08:07:31 | EbErT | soundcard on shuffle produces better sound than all the other ipods, if that tells ya anything |
| 08:07:36 | goffa | but you can't knock the sound |
| 08:07:58 | goffa | rockbox speeds it considerably |
| 08:09:21 | midkay | ze, anyways, with the number of supported rockbox players, i couldn't forgive you for not getting one.. :) |
| 08:09:27 | EbErT | maybe the forced tag caching could come with error messages or what file it had trouble with later on |
| 08:09:45 | ze | midkay: i can get a used karma for ~$150 |
| 08:09:54 | EbErT | if i can get id3 tags to work, i'll be completely satisfied w/ rockbox so far |
| 08:11:11 | ze | and i can resurect this one with a new HD and replacement screen for probably around $80 |
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| 08:15:39 | goffa | if it wasn't for musepack i wouldn't have discovered/tried rockbox |
| 08:15:46 | goffa | otherwise i probably would have fixed my karma |
| 08:16:19 | goffa | karma does have pretty good firmware... i like rockbox better though |
| 08:17:23 | EbErT | i'm gunna kill that one song that's probably giving me all this grief |
| 08:17:40 | midkay | ze, a used h120 would be about that... sure.. |
| 08:18:38 | goffa | i'd spend the extra 50 and get the 140 though.. unless 20 is big enough |
| 08:19:48 | midkay | yeah, whatever he does, he knows that he's going to get a rockbox player or be killed by me. :) |
| 08:20:16 | goffa | lol.. i can see it now "Midkay sends hitman from detroit" |
| 08:20:23 | ze | heh |
| 08:20:25 | midkay | haha. |
| 08:20:30 | midkay | detroit~!!?!/ |
| 08:20:35 | ze | well it could work out to get another player entirely |
| 08:20:44 | ze | and then i can resurect this one some time in the future |
| 08:20:58 | goffa | 1st rough town that came into my head |
| 08:21:00 | ze | although if i plan to do that, i'd probably be better off getting the new screen soonish |
| 08:21:12 | ze | but the HD's oughtta be around |
| 08:21:49 | ze | but then if i don't like the new one i've already spent what i had to go towards the HD |
| 08:21:53 | ze | heh |
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| 08:22:41 | goffa | well... a 40gb hd is close to the price of a 140 :) and 20 is close to the price of a 120 |
| 08:22:48 | midkay | haha. |
| 08:22:53 | ze | heh |
| 08:23:05 | ze | i've found the hitachi 20G's for about $50 or $60 |
| 08:23:17 | goffa | cool |
| 08:23:24 | ze | the only problem is they don't specify the interface or explicitly say that they're 7mm |
| 08:23:34 | goffa | yeah |
| 08:23:42 | ze | and don't have the complete proper model number that indicates those parameters |
| 08:23:53 | goffa | yeah.. that makes it tough |
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| 08:26:23 | midkay | hey. i need people to vote here. http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4320.0 |
| 08:26:25 | midkay | come on. |
| 08:27:19 | goffa | that loks nice midkay |
| 08:27:25 | goffa | really nice |
| 08:27:28 | midkay | vote vote vote pls. :) |
| 08:27:33 | midkay | thanks. |
| 08:27:57 | midkay | hm, cool.. |
| 08:27:57 | goffa | voted |
| 08:28:00 | midkay | thanks :) |
| 08:29:19 | midkay | any suggestions, btw? didn't get any, but i would like to hear some if there were any.. |
| 08:29:36 | goffa | i don't have any |
| 08:29:53 | midkay | k, thx though.. be back in a lil' bit. |
| 08:30:21 | EbErT | pre 3.0? what are we on now |
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| 08:30:27 | EbErT | and is this a big step? |
| 08:30:36 | goffa | 3 is next release |
| 08:30:36 | Jungti1234 | hello |
| 08:31:08 | goffa | they are just killing bugs now |
| 08:31:16 | goffa | if you use cvs you probably won't notice much |
| 08:32:39 | ze | midkay: i gotta say, they look less dimensional and more pixelly |
| 08:32:40 | EbErT | kk |
| 08:32:57 | EbErT | i kinda like that look, good work |
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| 08:43:57 | midkay | ze, what look less dimensional? |
| 08:44:04 | midkay | oh. |
| 08:44:06 | midkay | my bitmaps? |
| 08:44:08 | ze | don't have much in the sense of reference, but just from the dimension ratio's, the hxx0's look big |
| 08:44:12 | ze | midkay: yeah |
| 08:44:48 | midkay | ze, true, it was a really quick photoshop resize.. if i do commit them, i'll probably remake them for each LCD.. |
| 08:45:06 | midkay | but it's the general idea.. and imo they look considerably better on-target. |
| 08:45:11 | midkay | both of them. |
| 08:51:00 | ze | hmm so the h1x0's are taller, narrower, and slimmer |
| 08:51:06 | ze | like everything else |
| 08:51:12 | ze | i kinda like the squatness of the karma too :/ |
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| 08:57:06 | JdGordon | and i got 2 asses due next week |
| 08:57:11 | JdGordon | woops.. wrong window |
| 08:57:12 | JdGordon | hey all |
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| 08:58:15 | midkay | zup jdjd. |
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| 08:58:44 | Jungti1234 | dwqkjfrkl |
| 08:58:52 | midkay | um. hi. |
| 08:58:54 | goffa | ze... if size is an issue x5 may be woth looking at |
| 08:58:58 | goffa | worth |
| 08:58:58 | Jungti1234 | hi...:( |
| 08:59:11 | goffa | although you don't gain much |
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| 09:00:19 | Jungti1234 | not |
| 09:00:54 | Jungti1234 | I'm seeming to make use of modem. |
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| 10:29:42 | cmug | anyone figured a good way to use itunes + rockbox + podcasts? |
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| 10:36:47 | midkay | what format are podcasts? |
| 10:37:16 | midkay | tagcache is a fine way to do rockbox + itunes, but podcast support doesn't exist yet.. |
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| 11:01:53 | wehn | but podcasts are just MP3s. The 'support' is on the computer side with RSS and such. |
| 11:05:54 | midkay | if they are then sure, of course, mp3 playback is possible :) |
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| 11:06:37 | thegeek | that's not really what he is asking about |
| 11:06:52 | thegeek | afaik there is no solution to automatically update the player with new podcasts |
| 11:07:06 | thegeek | but it's very easy to do it with some scripts |
| 11:07:24 | thegeek | not sure if there is any way to have itunes update podcasts with a usb/hd-based player |
| 11:07:33 | RedBreva | OK, I give up... Anyone know what the keys are for Minesweeper on the iPod? |
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| 11:10:25 | RedBreva | Ah OK, Select + Play to discover |
| 11:12:38 | cmug | i meant in itunes i can setup to "update my podcasts" etc |
| 11:13:14 | cmug | that puts my podcasts to the itunes folders F03 etc |
| 11:14:25 | cmug | maybe its not possible |
| 11:17:03 | midkay | cmug, TagCache will let you browse files by id3tag instead of folders.. |
| 11:17:24 | midkay | so you can build a database of all the mp3s on your disk, and if the podcasts are tagged correctly and a valid format e.g. mp3, they will show up in the browser. |
| 11:17:33 | cmug | midkay, hmm, ill check that out |
| 11:17:46 | cmug | but can it separate podcasts from normal music somehow? |
| 11:18:06 | midkay | not unless they're tagged differently.. |
| 11:18:09 | cmug | ok |
| 11:18:18 | midkay | e.g. Album = "Podcast" or something.. |
| 11:18:33 | midkay | it lets you browse by artist, album, song .. so whatever they're tagged as, they'll show up as. |
| 11:20:06 | cmug | ok |
| 11:20:08 | cmug | thanks |
| 11:20:14 | cmug | it could be just what im looking for |
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| 11:20:21 | midkay | hopefully :) np |
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| 11:28:00 | amiconn | bbl |
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| 11:40:07 | * | JdGordon is really getting sick of playlist.c :p |
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| 11:43:57 | midkay | haha |
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| 12:10:09 | GarfTop | Is anyone here able to fetch https://datatype.helixcommunity.org/mp3dec.html |
| 12:10:26 | GarfTop | I can't find any way to get it without an account, and the account registration system appears to be broken |
| 12:15:15 | GarfTop | alternatively, memory usage data on MAD would also be handy |
| 12:19:38 | ender` | is this good enough: https://helixcommunity.org/viewcvs/cgi/viewcvs.cgi/datatype/mp3/codec/fixpt/ |
| 12:19:57 | GarfTop | fetch the files one by one? :-P |
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| 12:21:05 | ender` | use some wget magic :) |
| 12:22:04 | GarfTop | would have to be some complicated magic, since just clicking the file links doesn't work either, need to click correct link one level deeper |
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| 12:35:56 | kbob | anyone know of any issues that would cause rockbox bootloader to hang at 'loading firmware' on an iriver h340? |
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| 12:38:29 | k2bob | ok it's me this time |
| 12:38:30 | k2bob | anyone know of any issues that would cause rockbox bootloader to hang at 'loading firmware' on an iriver h340? |
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| 12:53:07 | linuxstb | k2bob: Maybe low battery, corrupt filesystem. Is this the first time you tried Rockbox, or has it been working in the past and suddenly stopped? |
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| 13:00:14 | * | petur does his biggest commit until now :D |
| 13:00:55 | * | amiconn ducks |
| 13:01:10 | * | petur was already behind that rock |
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| 13:01:15 | k2bob | linuxstb: it's the first time |
| 13:01:31 | k2bob | and the battery is reasonably charged |
| 13:01:48 | k2bob | i can press record and load the original firmware fine |
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| 13:03:17 | k2bob | linuxstb: could it still be the filesystem? |
| 13:05:28 | petur | phew.... |
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| 13:10:13 | Genre9mp3 | petur:So..what are the changes in the backdrop behavior, now? |
| 13:10:36 | petur | it should always work now ;) |
| 13:11:24 | Genre9mp3 | What happen when you load a theme that does not specify a bacdrop and there's an old one? |
| 13:11:36 | petur | if you loaded a backdrop by loading a theme while in the WPS screen and then came back, the backdrop was removed again |
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| 13:12:20 | petur | there's a fall-back now: if no wps backdrop, use main backdrop, if none there use bg colors |
| 13:13:15 | petur | I tried as many combinations as possible, feel free to try to break it :P |
| 13:13:34 | Genre9mp3 | and what happens to the menu backdrop? |
| 13:14:03 | Genre9mp3 | I mean, while loading a "backdrop-free" theme |
| 13:14:17 | petur | if the theme doesn't specify one it keeps the previous one |
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| 13:14:32 | Genre9mp3 | oh... |
| 13:14:40 | petur | because the backdrop may not come from the theme |
| 13:14:49 | petur | the user can specify one himself |
| 13:15:01 | Genre9mp3 | so it reverts your previous commit? |
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| 13:15:38 | petur | eh? Did it clear the menu backdrop if the theme had none? |
| 13:16:24 | Genre9mp3 | Well, I haven't tried...but I thought that it did that....sorry |
| 13:16:37 | petur | It shouldn't imho |
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| 13:16:39 | amiconn | It seems we need a general way to specify "built-in default" for settings which can take a file |
| 13:16:44 | Genre9mp3 | But you are right about the backdrops...they shouldn't be cleared |
| 13:17:08 | Genre9mp3 | if a theme doesn't specify one... |
| 13:17:44 | petur | we should mark if the backdrop came from a theme or from the user |
| 13:18:13 | Genre9mp3 | I think that it would be better if we could make themes able to clear backdrops |
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| 13:18:31 | Genre9mp3 | something like... backdrop: no |
| 13:18:47 | petur | yeah, something like that |
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| 13:20:08 | Genre9mp3 | People are complaining that sometimes they "loose" the text (eg. use a black backdrop and then loading a theme with black foreground colour) |
| 13:20:57 | Genre9mp3 | and then the have to reset settings or something |
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| 13:22:37 | german_snail | i've installed rockbox on my ipod video but when i access the drive and do a cntrl+a, it says something like 350mb... and when i right click the drive from 'my computer' it says 15gb... why can't i see my mp3s? |
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| 13:25:07 | petur | show hidden files? |
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| 13:30:49 | german_snail | oh ta |
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| 13:38:35 | Murmur2k | Hi all |
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| 13:40:44 | petur | heya |
| 13:41:15 | Murmur2k | Just installed rockbox today - looks great - finally FLAC on my Ipod! |
| 13:42:51 | german_snail | so if i wanna put my mp3s into dirs like /music/artist/album/, must i do it manually? cause it's still in that itunes format F01 F02 etc... |
| 13:43:49 | petur | I did it manually when building up my collection, don't know if there are tools to do that - there probably are |
| 13:44:05 | petur | google is your friend (TM) |
| 13:45:07 | Murmur2k | Anyone notice how the hard drive accesses a song frequently during song playback? Isn't it cached? |
| 13:45:26 | petur | FLAC files are big |
| 13:45:33 | Murmur2k | this is with mp3 |
| 13:45:37 | Murmur2k | 4mb |
| 13:45:55 | petur | oh |
| 13:46:03 | Murmur2k | or is it my build or something? |
| 13:46:40 | petur | it should be stuffing the buffer full, but this isn't my area of expertise :) |
| 13:47:18 | Murmur2k | ok thanks |
| 13:47:41 | german_snail | if i delete iPod_Control folder will rockbox still run? |
| 13:47:45 | german_snail | yeah google is my friend |
| 13:47:55 | german_snail | but i don't mind asking noob questions |
| 13:48:03 | Murmur2k | Also any idea how to enable my full 60mb cache on my 5g Ipod? Currently only using 30mb |
| 13:48:39 | petur | Murmur2k: still on the to do list |
| 13:49:04 | petur | probably shortly after the feature freeze |
| 13:50:01 | Murmur2k | cool |
| 13:50:24 | Murmur2k | Sorry got all the questions - but was amazed to see this development while searching google today1 |
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| 13:52:43 | Murmur2k | I am guessing that MP4 Video is a long way off right ;) |
| 13:57:36 | * | petur swears at InstallShield |
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| 14:00:29 | Murmur2k | has anybody got a recent rockbox ipod 5G build with album art patch etc |
| 14:00:37 | Murmur2k | to save me compiling pls |
| 14:00:49 | petur | there are in the forum |
| 14:00:58 | petur | in the Album Art thread |
| 14:01:07 | Murmur2k | thats quite an old build isn't it? |
| 14:01:13 | petur | dunno |
| 14:01:31 | Murmur2k | how do I move around dirs in cygwin? |
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| 14:02:18 | Murmur2k | nm |
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| 14:05:13 | Mikachu | Murmur2k: lazy, new, album art. pick any two |
| 14:06:29 | Murmur2k | ?? |
| 14:06:40 | Mikachu | where lazy means not compiling yourself |
| 14:06:54 | petur | being rude, are we? |
| 14:06:59 | Mikachu | was that rude? |
| 14:07:02 | Mikachu | i didn't mean it to be |
| 14:07:09 | Murmur2k | :( |
| 14:07:31 | Murmur2k | sorry I am new |
| 14:08:46 | Murmur2k | I am trying to compile it now anyway |
| 14:11:59 | Murmur2k | can't get the ../tools/configure part to work |
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| 14:14:21 | Mikachu | and what seems to be the error? |
| 14:14:32 | petur | installed everything? including binutils? |
| 14:16:09 | Murmur2k | I followed the instructions - installed cygwin |
| 14:16:13 | Murmur2k | then installed from URL |
| 14:16:20 | Murmur2k | No such file or directory |
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| 14:23:57 | Lear | murmur2k: sounds like you're in the wrong directory then. what does pwd say? |
| 14:26:26 | Murmur2k | its says "/HOME/WILL" |
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| 14:27:13 | Lear | where did you do the cvs checkout (or unpacked the sources)? |
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| 14:28:06 | Murmur2k | i simply ran cygwin and let it download default set |
| 14:28:12 | Murmur2k | then put in the the rockbox url |
| 14:28:28 | Murmur2k | I then downloaded the source |
| 14:28:42 | Murmur2k | unzipped it into C:\rockbox |
| 14:29:06 | Lear | ah, but then you need to CD to it, like "cd /cygdrive/c/rockbox" |
| 14:29:19 | Murmur2k | yep - i have cd'd into it |
| 14:29:39 | Lear | then pwd would've said something else... |
| 14:29:49 | Murmur2k | ok sorry.. |
| 14:29:57 | Lear | anyway, when in the rockbox folder, create a new folder there (any name really, but something like "build" is good). |
| 14:29:57 | Murmur2k | pwd gives... |
| 14:30:03 | Murmur2k | ok |
| 14:30:10 | Lear | cd to that new directory, and you're ready to run configure. |
| 14:30:41 | Murmur2k | ok i am in rockbox/build |
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| 14:31:22 | Murmur2k | ../tools/configure still says not found |
| 14:31:44 | Lear | okay, so what does "ls .." say? |
| 14:32:00 | Lear | Should include stuff like apps, firmware, tools... |
| 14:32:47 | Murmur2k | build rockbox.ipod |
| 14:32:55 | Murmur2k | (2 items) |
| 14:32:59 | Lear | he, you didn't download the source archive then. |
| 14:33:20 | Lear | (or unzipped, if you did download it) |
| 14:33:31 | Murmur2k | eh!? |
| 14:33:33 | Murmur2k | I am sure I did! |
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| 14:33:59 | Murmur2k | these are source right? http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml |
| 14:34:15 | Murmur2k | oooooops |
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| 14:34:24 | Lear | it can be found there, yes, but you must select the source archive... |
| 14:34:38 | petur | rotfl |
| 14:34:45 | Murmur2k | how embarassing! |
| 14:35:14 | Murmur2k | sorry for wasting your time! |
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| 14:39:50 | Murmur2k | that works :) Cheers |
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| 14:49:36 | petur | wtf? .NET 2.0 kills windows installer 3.1? Good job Microsoft |
| 14:51:36 | k2bob | anyone know of any issues that would cause rockbox bootloader to hang at 'loading firmware' on an iriver h340? someone before said it could be a corrupt filesystem −− how do i check for this? |
| 14:52:18 | petur | attach usb while powered down, then use disk check tool on PC |
| 14:52:35 | petur | in between, power on h340 :) |
| 14:53:03 | k2bob | peter: what disk check tool? |
| 14:53:11 | petur | what os? |
| 14:53:17 | k2bob | i'm in windows atm |
| 14:53:38 | petur | chkdsk /f (commandline) or rightclick the drive,... |
| 14:53:50 | k2bob | ok thanks, i'll do that |
| 14:54:04 | Murmur2k | where is the patch program found? |
| 14:54:17 | petur | part of cygwin setup |
| 14:54:37 | Murmur2k | ok thanks |
| 14:55:07 | k2bob | ok i did the chkdsk and it found no problems. any other ideas why it won't load? |
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| 15:04:31 | amiconn | petur: Plugging in USB will automatically power on the H300 |
| 15:07:29 | petur | right you are :) |
| 15:07:40 | k2bob | so no ideas? |
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| 15:21:10 | amiconn | Hafta use ADODB.Stream instead of a filesystem object for reading the .lang file |
| 15:31:35 | mirak | amiconn: that's still impossible to have charging from USB in UMS mode ? |
| 15:31:49 | amiconn | ? |
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| 15:32:10 | mirak | amiconn: with H300 |
| 15:32:29 | amiconn | The H300 does always charge from USB afaik |
| 15:32:41 | mirak | amiconn: ? |
| 15:32:51 | mirak | with iriver firmware you can't do both |
| 15:32:56 | mirak | and I think you can't with rockbox |
| 15:32:57 | mirak | as well |
| 15:33:22 | mirak | amiconn: when the h300 is mounted, then usb doesn't charge |
| 15:33:33 | mirak | :-/ |
| 15:33:33 | amiconn | For me it does... though slowly |
| 15:33:57 | mirak | I think you misunderstand |
| 15:33:58 | amiconn | If you use the disk, the drain from the disk is larger than the charging current |
| 15:34:24 | mirak | amiconn: but you don't see the bars charging like if you plug the alimentation cable |
| 15:34:31 | amiconn | If you just have it connected but don't access it, then the disk should spin down, and the battery should slowly charge |
| 15:35:00 | mirak | I don't think linux power it off |
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| 15:35:20 | mirak | charging from usb without accessing works. slowly but it works |
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| 16:20:37 | powerrangersfan1 | hey is it suppose to take 11 hours to load 20GB of music on a ipod video |
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| 16:21:08 | powerrangersfan1 | also how do i install these files? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g |
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| 16:21:23 | thegeek | just copy them to the ipod;) |
| 16:21:31 | thegeek | in the wps directory |
| 16:21:35 | thegeek | I think? |
| 16:22:19 | powerrangersfan1 | oh ok but it says i need a extra patch? |
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| 16:23:43 | powerrangersfan1 | i wanted to install ipod blue5g |
| 16:24:28 | powerrangersfan1 | no the itunes theme and it says i need the album art patch |
| 16:26:44 | powerrangersfan1 | ok so i got the album art patch now how to install the theme and the patch? |
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| 16:28:46 | bluey- | patch the sources |
| 16:28:58 | powerrangersfan1 | how |
| 16:29:02 | powerrangersfan1 | i am new to rockbox |
| 16:29:15 | bluey- | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches |
| 16:29:40 | powerrangersfan1 | kk |
| 16:31:04 | powerrangersfan1 | ouch it looks all hard all i did in download the theme file and album art patch |
| 16:32:21 | powerrangersfan1 | is there any mac gui to install the patch and themes> |
| 16:32:42 | powerrangersfan1 | i wish if rockbox had a gui installer too! |
| 16:33:34 | nudelyn2 | installing patches couldn't be automated... they're not plugins, they actually change the source code, so they can very easily break stuff when the main source code is updated... |
| 16:33:58 | nudelyn2 | patches are really just experimental stuff... if you want an "easy" way to get their features you've gotta wait for them to make it into the official code, or find a friend who can patch for you |
| 16:35:19 | powerrangersfan1 | oh so dont do them just stick with what i got? also on my ipod i cannot play doom it says error? also is there a way to make the apple os defult and rockbox not defult bootup |
| 16:36:06 | Febs | powerrangersfan1, perhaps you should take a few minutes to read through the FAQ page. |
| 16:36:26 | powerrangersfan1 | i already did and nothing came up |
| 16:39:29 | thegeek | hmm |
| 16:39:44 | powerrangersfan1 | so do you now |
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| 16:40:21 | powerrangersfan1 | it took me 11 hours to put 3010 songs and video and stuff on a ipod video wow |
| 16:40:30 | Febs | powerrangersfan1, look at page 46: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo-20060521.pdf |
| 16:40:43 | thegeek | there are is a patched build of rockbox with albumart for ipod on the forum |
| 16:40:43 | powerrangersfan1 | ok i will |
| 16:40:54 | powerrangersfan1 | were |
| 16:41:13 | thegeek | http://kingshurst.digitalbrain.com/kingshurst/accounts/pupils/christopherba/web/Public/rb_albumArt_5g_CVS_170606_1741.zip |
| 16:41:19 | thegeek | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3531.0 |
| 16:41:53 | powerrangersfan1 | downloading it how to install it? |
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| 16:44:31 | powerrangersfan1 | ps i am running on os x |
| 16:45:01 | thegeek | have you even installed rockbox? |
| 16:45:52 | thegeek | if you have, the files just has a patched version of rockbox, just overwrite the files you already have on the ipod |
| 16:45:58 | thegeek | *the file |
| 16:46:26 | powerrangersfan1 | ok so i unzipped http://kingshurst.digitalbrain.com/kingshurst/accounts/pupils/christopherba/web/Public/rb_albumArt_5g_CVS_170606_1741.zip that file and i came out with a folder with one fil named .ipod what should i do? |
| 16:47:18 | thegeek | first of all |
| 16:47:21 | thegeek | answer my question |
| 16:47:26 | thegeek | have you installed rockbox? |
| 16:48:10 | powerrangersfan1 | yes last night |
| 16:48:34 | thegeek | that zip has rockbox.ipod and the rockbox folder |
| 16:48:43 | thegeek | you should put both on your ipod |
| 16:48:49 | thegeek | just as you did when you installed |
| 16:48:54 | powerrangersfan1 | ok |
| 16:49:17 | powerrangersfan1 | also about the doom game i need to install more files to get it working any patch for that |
| 16:49:49 | thegeek | I suggest you check out the wiki/forum |
| 16:50:20 | thegeek | power rangers sucks btw;P |
| 16:50:26 | thegeek | it sucks a _lot_ |
| 16:50:49 | sharpe | hey people... |
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| 16:51:17 | thegeek | powerrangersfan1 : http://youtube.com/watch?v=LoUBATHjWf0 ;) |
| 16:51:57 | powerrangersfan1 | ok i will |
| 16:52:33 | thegeek | :) |
| 16:53:07 | powerrangersfan1 | hey when i copied the two files onto my ipod it says i cannot copy .rockbox folder cause it is invisable |
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| 16:54:11 | thegeek | I don't know os x |
| 16:54:17 | thegeek | but you could use the console I guess |
| 16:54:28 | powerrangersfan1 | no |
| 16:54:36 | powerrangersfan1 | how do i make it uninvisable |
| 16:54:41 | thegeek | you can't |
| 16:54:44 | thegeek | or |
| 16:54:51 | thegeek | you could rename it to just "rockbox" |
| 16:55:02 | thegeek | and then rename it back to ".rockbox" when you have copied it |
| 16:55:07 | powerrangersfan1 | should i just delete the folder on ipod and move it again |
| 16:57:19 | powerrangersfan1 | ok i renamed the rockbox folder and when it finishded copyed onto my ipod i will rename it back to what it should be i guss |
| 16:57:26 | powerrangersfan1 | i have no clue |
| 16:59:45 | powerrangersfan1 | hey help i cannot rename it, it says already a folder with that name? should i delete the orignal .rockbox folder on my ipod thaat i installed last night? |
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| 17:01:30 | powerrangersfan1 | ???????????????? |
| 17:01:56 | thegeek | you only need one question mark;) |
| 17:02:30 | thegeek | if you are prepared to reinstall, I would say go ahead and try it |
| 17:02:31 | powerrangersfan1 | well i dont know what i should do? it will not let me copy the folder |
| 17:02:59 | powerrangersfan1 | errrrrr..... |
| 17:03:10 | powerrangersfan1 | it takes to long to reinstall |
| 17:03:18 | thegeek | why? |
| 17:03:40 | powerrangersfan1 | i wish if there was a betterway cause no i got to do tagcache all over again |
| 17:03:46 | thegeek | oh |
| 17:04:11 | thegeek | I don't use tagcache so I can't say anything about that |
| 17:04:28 | powerrangersfan1 | oh well i already did that so i guss i will be alot of problems |
| 17:04:30 | thegeek | and I'm not saying you have to do it again |
| 17:04:40 | thegeek | I just mean that if anything goes wrong;) |
| 17:04:58 | XavierGr | can someone clarify why whould one declare a function static? (I know about variables but I don't get it for functions) |
| 17:06:14 | thegeek | in java you can then use that function without actually creating a new object of that class |
| 17:06:40 | thegeek | but I don' think that is relevant for c |
| 17:06:46 | XavierGr | yes I know about that, though I think the meaning in C is different |
| 17:06:51 | Slasheri | XavierGr: making a function static, makes it unlinkable from other compiled object files |
| 17:06:52 | thegeek | http://www.phim.unibe.ch/comp_doc/c_manual/C/SYNTAX/static.htm |
| 17:07:00 | thegeek | "static functions are functions that are only visable to other functions in the same file." |
| 17:07:01 | thegeek | ;) |
| 17:07:07 | powerrangersfan1 | ok with that zipped folder you gave me do i have album art? also what build is it? |
| 17:07:15 | Slasheri | so generally it's good to make all functions static, that are used only inside the current source file (not declared in header files) |
| 17:07:41 | XavierGr | ah so if a static function decleration is found on an .h file, other modules that include that file will not recognise the function? |
| 17:07:58 | XavierGr | ah okay |
| 17:08:04 | XavierGr | forget the previous line |
| 17:08:10 | Slasheri | XavierGr: yep, that function is only usable from the source file it has been originally declared |
| 17:08:32 | Slasheri | same goes for static global variable also |
| 17:08:48 | XavierGr | so what happens if we have a static function in a header file? |
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| 17:09:39 | Slasheri | XavierGr: probably compiler just generates an error |
| 17:09:59 | Slasheri | anyway, it wont work if called from other objects |
| 17:10:15 | XavierGr | so the morale is: No static on header files :p |
| 17:15:29 | ACK54W | anyone use foobar here |
| 17:16:50 | Febs | Yes. |
| 17:21:52 | Mikachu | static functions in header files work fine, in fact i think you should _only_ have static functions. declarations of functions that are in .c files should not be static of course |
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| 17:22:19 | Mikachu | i only read 3 lines or so of what you wrote so ignore me if you already knew that :) |
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| 17:28:34 | sharpe | i really hope the cpu emulator works... |
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| 17:44:24 | sharpe | hahah |
| 17:45:52 | sharpe | yay... space invaders emulator almost working... decently :) |
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| 18:09:59 | Hansmaulwurf | will you release 3.0 tomorrow? |
| 18:10:17 | Hansmaulwurf | or is it postponed one week? |
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| 18:12:48 | Febs | I haven't seen any recent discussion, so I think that decision has yet to be made. |
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| 18:19:20 | powerrangersfan1 | hey i have a ipod video how do i make the text size of the display bigger? |
| 18:19:54 | sharpe | change the font |
| 18:20:19 | powerrangersfan1 | i did |
| 18:20:41 | powerrangersfan1 | also i does not play mp3? |
| 18:20:50 | sharpe | ? |
| 18:20:51 | Hansmaulwurf | lol |
| 18:20:56 | Hansmaulwurf | it does play MP3 |
| 18:21:02 | Hansmaulwurf | or hast it DRM? |
| 18:21:14 | powerrangersfan1 | i could not get any mp3 file to work |
| 18:21:36 | Hansmaulwurf | what bitrate? |
| 18:21:42 | powerrangersfan1 | 128 |
| 18:21:58 | Hansmaulwurf | did you buy the files? |
| 18:22:09 | powerrangersfan1 | no |
| 18:23:05 | powerrangersfan1 | nevermind it was a acc file i think |
| 18:23:05 | Hansmaulwurf | what happens exactly when you choose a mp3 file? |
| 18:23:31 | Hansmaulwurf | (powerrangersfan1) i could not get any mp3 file to work |
| 18:23:36 | Hansmaulwurf | now what? |
| 18:24:23 | powerrangersfan1 | so what font would make it bigger? |
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| 18:26:04 | Hansmaulwurf | http://www.rockbox.org/fonts/ |
| 18:26:08 | Hansmaulwurf | .... |
| 18:29:08 | Aghaster | hum |
| 18:29:16 | Aghaster | i let my ipod opened all night |
| 18:29:23 | Aghaster | and now it shows the version screen |
| 18:29:27 | Aghaster | how can i get out of it? |
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| 18:30:32 | Aghaster | nvm, i simply rebooted it |
| 18:31:24 | Aghaster | i got time to translate rockbox now :P |
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| 18:47:45 | oranje17 | hey |
| 18:48:01 | oranje17 | i have a question, how can i listen to lower FM frequencies on the iriver h120? |
| 18:48:22 | oranje17 | it somehow stops at 87.5MHz |
| 18:48:45 | Mikachu | all radios do that that i've ever seen |
| 18:48:56 | oranje17 | in japan there are lower radio frequencies |
| 18:49:51 | oranje17 | and the japanese iriver firmware supports it |
| 18:50:11 | linuxstb | oranje17: There's a patch on the patch tracker to enable that: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2876 |
| 18:50:34 | oranje17 | thanks a lot :) |
| 18:50:52 | oranje17 | how do i use the patch though? |
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| 18:51:10 | Mikachu | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches |
| 18:51:14 | linuxstb | You have to use that patch to modify the Rockbox source code, and then compile Rockbox yourself. |
| 18:51:22 | oranje17 | oh :S |
| 18:52:20 | sharpe | well, the space invaders emulator somewhat works :) |
| 18:52:29 | linuxstb | \o/ |
| 18:52:53 | linuxstb | Have you emulated the screen yet? |
| 18:52:56 | sharpe | aye |
| 18:53:03 | * | linuxstb wants screenshots |
| 18:53:06 | bluey- | konischiwa |
| 18:53:11 | bluey- | :) |
| 18:53:14 | sharpe | :) |
| 18:53:20 | sharpe | okay, i'll take one in a second |
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| 18:53:38 | sharpe | my ipod is running like, really hot... |
| 18:53:38 | Mikachu | bluey-: not even close :P |
| 18:53:48 | bluey- | i thought so lol |
| 18:58:24 | sharpe | sharpe.bastardoperatorfromhell.org/images/spaceinvaders.png">http://sharpe.bastardoperatorfromhell.org/images/spaceinvaders.png this was taken without stopping drawing first, which is why some things aren't drawn yet/or are torn. |
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| 19:00:45 | sharpe | now i have to go through the source and make sure it's correct... |
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| 19:07:47 | sharpe | any thoughts? |
| 19:08:14 | linuxstb | Is that naturally how the space invaders screen is oriented? |
| 19:08:47 | sharpe | nope |
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| 19:09:16 | sharpe | but naturally, it's rotated clockwise 90 degrees |
| 19:09:28 | sharpe | or counter clockwise... |
| 19:09:30 | sharpe | something. |
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| 19:13:32 | webguest77 | sharpe: why did you oriented the screen that way? is it intended? |
| 19:13:54 | sharpe | webguest77: yes |
| 19:14:03 | linuxstb | Are you left-handed? |
| 19:14:07 | webguest77 | better imho to have it with the normal orientation, no? |
| 19:15:01 | linuxstb | webguest77: The Space Invaders screen is too big to orientate it normally. It has to either be rotated or shrunk. Given that choice, I would prefer it rotated. |
| 19:15:03 | sharpe | the cabinents were rotated 90 degrees to have it actually as it should be, if i were to have it vertically, it wouldn't fit the screen. |
| 19:15:12 | webguest77 | ok |
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| 19:16:05 | webguest77 | better this way than nothing I guess :) |
| 19:16:30 | sharpe | it's really the same concept as pacbox's screen... |
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| 19:16:32 | linuxstb | sharpe: Are you going to try and use the clickwheel for movement, or just the left/right buttons? |
| 19:16:44 | sharpe | eh, i think just left and right |
| 19:16:50 | Mikachu | up/down if it's rotated... |
| 19:17:39 | webguest77 | sharpe: have you planed tp provide one patch once you polish the things a bit? |
| 19:17:51 | * | webguest77 wants to tset it on his box :) |
| 19:18:03 | webguest77 | *test |
| 19:18:10 | sharpe | i will eventually, after i get things fixed |
| 19:18:21 | webguest77 | goodish |
| 19:18:29 | sharpe | such as, why it stops after the first enemy is hit during the demo |
| 19:19:08 | webguest77 | is your c64 emulator project aborted or something? or is your patch somwhere? |
| 19:19:21 | sharpe | it's just off to the side for the moment |
| 19:19:29 | webguest77 | OK |
| 19:20:00 | webguest77 | maybe if you do a patch such other devs will want to improve the things, no? |
| 19:20:12 | sharpe | probably |
| 19:20:20 | sharpe | just haven't gotten around to it :) |
| 19:20:32 | webguest77 | haha :] |
| 19:21:11 | webguest77 | have you something you already finished yet? :-P |
| 19:21:19 | webguest77 | for rockbox, that is |
| 19:21:25 | sharpe | not really |
| 19:21:39 | webguest77 | just kinding ;-) |
| 19:21:41 | sharpe | there was the plugin for the packaged wpses, but that kinda died off |
| 19:22:07 | webguest77 | those 2 other projects spunds more commitable imho |
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| 19:22:13 | webguest77 | *sounds |
| 19:22:24 | sharpe | what two other projects? |
| 19:22:47 | webguest77 | c64 and space invaders I meant |
| 19:22:50 | sharpe | yeah |
| 19:23:31 | webguest77 | hopefully you will not lost the motivation for ;) |
| 19:23:42 | sharpe | heh |
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| 19:24:56 | * | webguest77 sends some bounties to sharpe via IRC |
| 19:25:06 | webguest77 | :-) |
| 19:25:45 | sharpe | well... i can claim i successfully ported an emulator to rockbox in under 16 hours. even if parts of it doesn't work. |
| 19:26:01 | webguest77 | haha XD |
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| 19:27:07 | * | webguest77 give to sharpe another 16 hours for the c64 emulator working ;) |
| 19:27:41 | sharpe | heh, in like twenty hours i have to go to school. |
| 19:27:51 | webguest77 | oops :) |
| 19:28:12 | webguest77 | what do you studing, I mean which grade...? |
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| 19:28:38 | sharpe | eh, in tenth grade. weird isn't it? |
| 19:29:13 | webguest77 | hehe, bad luck ;) |
| 19:29:53 | webguest77 | you are a young "rocker" then |
| 19:30:08 | sharpe | yes, yes i am. |
| 19:30:16 | webguest77 | goodie |
| 19:30:42 | sharpe | well, at least i'll be able tp keep rockbox going for a number of years :) |
| 19:30:48 | webguest77 | I guess you have good skills for a battle with c64 emulator porting |
| 19:30:58 | webguest77 | hehe :) |
| 19:31:55 | sharpe | heh... i've not been taught anything dealing with computer software, nor hardware for that matter... discovered everything myself... |
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| 19:33:02 | webguest77 | sharpe: pure autodidact? I'm impressed, really |
| 19:33:31 | sharpe | heh, thanks |
| 19:33:34 | webguest77 | what are you studiying then? somethong not related to computer sciences |
| 19:33:56 | sharpe | there's practically nothing offered related to computers. |
| 19:34:35 | webguest77 | good, good |
| 19:36:31 | sharpe | hmm... |
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| 19:37:06 | sharpe | i keep having deja vu... |
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| 19:44:25 | sharpe | time to go through all ~245 instructions and make sure they're correct! |
| 19:44:52 | sharpe | or 243 |
| 19:47:23 | webguest77 | time for me to go |
| 19:47:31 | webguest77 | c you later |
| 19:47:34 | sharpe | later |
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| 19:48:28 | sharpe | ooh, i found a part where it's not correct... |
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| 20:16:58 | sharpe | well, fixed one of the problems of it freezing... now on to the next... |
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| 20:21:22 | bluey- | is tagcache not ignoring hidden windows files? it ignores my whole itunes folder |
| 20:21:40 | sharpe | it shouldn't ignore hidden files... |
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| 20:44:50 | ze | hmm the h1x0 screens aren't even grayscale? |
| 20:45:13 | preglow | yes? |
| 20:45:52 | markun | ze: 2-bit |
| 20:46:14 | ze | markun: 4 shades? |
| 20:46:24 | preglow | it's still grayscale |
| 20:47:00 | ze | was just guessing from pics on google images, most look 1bit |
| 20:47:09 | ze | obvious half-toning and such |
| 20:51:31 | ze | so would i be unjustified in feeling that an h1x0 would be a downgrade from a karma, except for rockbox (which is a considerable exception) recording and fm? |
| 20:51:58 | Hansmaulwurf | ze: the karma doesnt have a opical in/out |
| 20:52:04 | Hansmaulwurf | if i remember right |
| 20:52:18 | ze | i don't have anything optical anyway |
| 20:52:30 | ze | does the h1x0 have a dock with rca outs? |
| 20:52:31 | ze | heh |
| 20:52:31 | Hansmaulwurf | does the karma have a remote with LCD? |
| 20:53:00 | ze | i never saw the point of a remote on something thats on your person |
| 20:53:10 | ze | where's the remote go? hanging out catching on stuff? or in your pocket next to what its controlling? |
| 20:53:29 | Hansmaulwurf | i find it extremly usefull |
| 20:53:32 | BHSPitMonkey | heh |
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| 20:54:14 | Hansmaulwurf | i listening with rockbox 2 hous per day on the train, and with the remote i dont need the main unit out of my bag |
| 20:54:16 | ze | i'm not likely to get the remote unless it comes with it anyway |
| 20:54:44 | ze | looks like the 40's tend to, but the 20's have it seperate |
| 20:55:04 | Hansmaulwurf | both have it |
| 20:55:07 | Hansmaulwurf | normally |
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| 21:06:38 | linuxstb | ze: You don't need a dock to access any of the features of the h1x0s - it's all built in. |
| 21:07:18 | dpassen1 | And the HDD is reliable |
| 21:07:52 | Hansmaulwurf | and another plus: |
| 21:07:54 | Hansmaulwurf | its not apple |
| 21:07:57 | Hansmaulwurf | ;), sorry |
| 21:08:38 | sharpe | gah... |
| 21:08:49 | sharpe | can't figure it out... |
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| 21:13:17 | Aghaster | how many strings are there to translate in the main english.lang file? |
| 21:13:26 | Aghaster | just to give me an idea of the amount of work to do |
| 21:14:30 | Aghaster | i want to translate rockbox to esperanto |
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| 21:27:13 | linuxstb | Aghaster: There are 607 string IDs... |
| 21:27:35 | Mikachu | are all the strings up to date, re the release? |
| 21:28:19 | Aghaster | linuxstb: i found out the www.rockbox.org/lang pages, but it doesnt really explain how to do it |
| 21:28:30 | BHSPitMonkey | freeze going to the end of the month? |
| 21:28:32 | Aghaster | is there any other page where they give out more info about it? |
| 21:28:35 | linuxstb | Sorry, I can't help. I've never translated anything. |
| 21:28:43 | Aghaster | k |
| 21:28:57 | linuxstb | Probably in the wiki somewhere though - try searching for "langv2" |
| 21:29:14 | linuxstb | BHSPitMonkey: No-one has suggested otherwise. |
| 21:29:24 | BHSPitMonkey | k |
| 21:30:11 | amiconn | bbl |
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| 21:31:02 | Aghaster | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LangFiles |
| 21:31:04 | Aghaster | found out |
| 21:31:44 | dpassen1 | Just won a H140 :-) |
| 21:32:16 | Aghaster | cool |
| 21:32:22 | Aghaster | how did you win it? |
| 21:32:25 | dpassen1 | eBay |
| 21:32:34 | Aghaster | what price :P? |
| 21:32:40 | dpassen1 | Will be a nice replacement for my slowly running out of space 120 |
| 21:32:47 | dpassen1 | 172.50 + 18 |
| 21:32:49 | dpassen1 | USD |
| 21:33:00 | Aghaster | thats cool for you |
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| 21:33:07 | Mikachu | that's otherwise known as buying |
| 21:33:19 | dpassen1 | Sure |
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| 21:33:27 | Aghaster | but also known as winning an auction |
| 21:33:52 | Mikachu | yes, but he said he won an h140, not an auction, but i'll just shut up now :) |
| 21:34:09 | Aghaster | hehe |
| 21:34:22 | dpassen1 | Point remains, I'm happy |
| 21:34:38 | Aghaster | thats what matters |
| 21:35:22 | dpassen1 | I suppose my 120 is rather obsolete |
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| 21:38:08 | ze | any cons to an h320 as opposed to an h120? |
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| 21:39:03 | ze | is it worth the extra $50 or whatever? is the lack of colors on the screen a noticable degredation for video? is it actually worth a shit for watching video? |
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| 21:40:29 | dpassen1 | Its definitely not a Music and Video player, more of a music player with limited video capabilities |
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| 21:41:11 | Aghaster | does rockbox support video? |
| 21:41:17 | Aghaster | on 4G color ipod |
| 21:42:21 | ze | dpassen1: hmm just saw on wikipedia 10fps xvid... thats pretty sad |
| 21:42:21 | dpassen1 | No |
| 21:42:36 | dpassen1 | ze: Yeah, its clearly not a video player |
| 21:43:14 | dpassen1 | 224x180 is hardly high resolution, also. |
| 21:43:41 | ze | so its basically an mp3 player with a color screen |
| 21:43:46 | dpassen1 | Yes |
| 21:44:29 | ze | hmm am i missing something about the output power on these? karma specs say 55mW per channel at 16 oms, these irivers say 20mW per channel at 16 oms |
| 21:44:39 | ze | is it really less than half the output power of the karma? |
| 21:45:58 | dpassen1 | While I've never handled a Karma, I can't say I've had problems using my 120 with several headphones, but I've never used especially high impedance phones. |
| 21:46:21 | ze | lets see mine are 64oms |
| 21:47:06 | ze | on the karma a level of 26 out of 30 (iirc) is the highest i can stand with these and only ever use in noisy environments like on the freeway |
| 21:47:38 | ze | often times in quiet environments more than 24'll hurt my ears a little |
| 21:48:54 | ze | sigh |
| 21:49:11 | ze | why can't there be a clear-cut upgrade from the karma? |
| 21:49:23 | dpassen1 | Because the Chroma was never released |
| 21:49:26 | ze | as long as its been since it came out, you'd think there'd be something clearly better on the market |
| 21:50:11 | dpassen1 | It's more subjective than that. |
| 21:50:36 | ze | it also doesn't help that none of the local stores that provide decent service plans have any h1x0's or such |
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| 21:54:23 | ze | like if bestbuy had it, and we got a 3 year service plan, it'd be pretty likely that it'd need replacement by the time something better was out to replace it with |
| 21:54:52 | ze | like maybe something made out of the sigmatel kit based on what was to be the chroma |
| 21:57:17 | dpassen1 | I have a bad feeling most of the companies using the Sigmatel kit will cripple it |
| 21:57:34 | ze | probably |
| 21:57:41 | ze | but we can always hope there'll be one that doesn't |
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| 21:58:20 | ze | or maybe one that does ok hardware wise even if the firmware sucks but neglects something that gets a foot in the door for opensource firmware replacement |
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| 21:58:41 | ze | or sometihng like that |
| 21:59:55 | dpassen1 | But then we're back at the starting point, any Rockboxed DAP has the general feature set (excuse me if I'm wrong) of the Karma/Chroma/Sigmatel SMTP3600 |
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| 22:00:54 | ze | afaik karma is superior, hardware-wise, to any of the rockboxed players |
| 22:01:04 | ze | the only thing i can find that'd be clearly better than a karma is a rockboxed karma |
| 22:01:09 | ze | imo |
| 22:01:11 | dpassen1 | How so? |
| 22:02:33 | preglow | huzzas, another pdf viewer request |
| 22:02:42 | sharpe | yay! |
| 22:03:17 | ze | how is it superior? well some of this may be subjective, but i like its size/shape, the scroll wheel, the audio quality (output power, SNR), the 64-shade grayscale screen (well the h3x0's have color of course, but seem to lack in the other areas), the dock with rca outs, ethernet connectivity |
| 22:04:48 | ze | the ethernet's kindof an odd one... with the rio firmware it only serves to make up for its lack of mass-storage compliance for us linux folk, so in that sense its not that great of a feature that has anything over something rockboxed |
| 22:05:06 | dpassen1 | Interesting |
| 22:05:09 | ze | but then if it were rockboxed, it'd allow streaming music, web-based player control, and neat stuff like that |
| 22:06:27 | ze | then the lack of MSC is also made up for more recently by a linux driver for the usb interface that mimicks MSC |
| 22:06:40 | Mikachu | preglow: close it instead of complaining about it on irc :P |
| 22:07:10 | preglow | done it already |
| 22:07:26 | ze | the main barrier to it getting rockboxed seems to be public-key encrypted firmware upgrades too, since a lot of its main hardware is the same as various ipods |
| 22:07:43 | ze | but oh well, looks like i'll have to get over that vague possibility |
| 22:08:00 | dpassen1 | ze: I think it shows a lot that I've chosen a 140 to replace my 120, even though Rockbox is being ported to iPods and the iAudio X5 |
| 22:08:55 | preglow | we all know the h1x0 is the best player anyway |
| 22:08:59 | dpassen1 | For me, a Rockboxed H1x0 is the best player on the market |
| 22:09:16 | dpassen1 | No spurious color screen, just a brilliant music player. |
| 22:09:25 | ze | heh |
| 22:10:30 | ze | so why aren't the h1x0's available anywhere with an in-store service plan? :/ |
| 22:10:50 | dpassen1 | Its a rather old player |
| 22:11:02 | ze | i see plenty of new ones on ebay |
| 22:11:04 | ze | but thats like, it |
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| 22:12:45 | webguest18 | +1 for the h140 like the best music player never made |
| 22:12:52 | linuxstb | iriver stopped making them about 18 months ago (or more) |
| 22:12:54 | dpassen1 | iSkins have certainly come down in price for the H1x0, haha |
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| 22:13:24 | ze | whats with this H10whatever stuff |
| 22:13:38 | ze | some iriver thing with a color screen and looks like a touchpad-scroller |
| 22:13:58 | ze | its the only thing i can find at one of the chain stores |
| 22:14:23 | dpassen1 | Crippled by iriver firmware, I believe |
| 22:14:27 | ze | the H10TRANCERED specifically |
| 22:14:40 | ze | dpassen1: not rockboxed? |
| 22:14:46 | dpassen1 | Not the H10 |
| 22:14:56 | dpassen1 | No port exists |
| 22:15:08 | ze | i hate them touchpad things too |
| 22:15:35 | dpassen1 | Its hardly a direct descendant of the H1x0 and H3x0 series. |
| 22:16:20 | linuxstb | Looking at the hardware specs, it's basically an ipod mini... |
| 22:16:29 | XavierGr | rio sucks as long it isn't UMS. Though I have to say that it has some pretty neat features. But as I said: "If it ain't UMS it sucks!" |
| 22:19:20 | XavierGr | and the hitachi drives were a serious flaw for rio karma |
| 22:19:40 | ze | mine never had a problem until it hit concrete from 4 or 5 feet |
| 22:19:44 | XavierGr | many reported untis were unusable due to hard disk failure |
| 22:19:51 | XavierGr | ouch! |
| 22:20:19 | ze | i had 2 archos's and a nomad zen before i got the karma, and it outlasted all 3 put together |
| 22:21:08 | XavierGr | nomad isn't UMS too. |
| 22:21:26 | ze | yeah i don't want another creative |
| 22:21:34 | XavierGr | I nearly fool my self and buy one. When I learnt it wasn't UMS I bought my beloved H100 |
| 22:22:00 | ze | whats up with these color mp3 players having 18bit color |
| 22:22:11 | XavierGr | but yeah rio was cool except the UMS and hitachi drives |
| 22:23:09 | ze | any of the rockboxed contenders have a dock? |
| 22:23:40 | XavierGr | H300 |
| 22:23:44 | linuxstb | x5, ipods... |
| 22:24:20 | XavierGr | I have a dock for my H100 too. (self made though) |
| 22:24:41 | ze | XavierGr: got a page on it? |
| 22:24:56 | XavierGr | page? |
| 22:25:00 | XavierGr | ah |
| 22:25:01 | XavierGr | wait |
| 22:25:39 | XavierGr | http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=4707 |
| 22:25:53 | XavierGr | crappy pics though, sorry I don't have a digital camera. |
| 22:28:57 | ze | hmm no audio output on the h300 dock eh |
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| 22:29:33 | XavierGr | nope, but the H300 has line out on the top |
| 22:29:46 | XavierGr | so you can couple a cable there. |
| 22:30:09 | ze | well i got rca-outs on my karma dock going to speakers in my room |
| 22:30:24 | ze | i don't have to mess with any cables, i just drop it in the dock and its charging and hooked to my speakers |
| 22:30:30 | XavierGr | nice |
| 22:30:32 | ze | and just grab it out and it go wwith it |
| 22:30:38 | BHSPitLappy | I want an iPod HiFi... |
| 22:30:48 | BHSPitLappy | they sound pretty amazing |
| 22:31:26 | Aghaster | HiFi? |
| 22:32:12 | BHSPitLappy | http://www.apple.com/ipodhifi/ |
| 22:32:31 | Aghaster | k |
| 22:32:32 | BHSPitLappy | the name is misleading |
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| 22:35:09 | ze | i wouldn't be opposed to building my own dock, but if nothing has any kind of audio output ports on the bottom of the unit then the kinda thing i do with my karma wouldn't be possible anyway |
| 22:36:07 | ze | i'll probably just resurrect my karma or get a cheap used one and hope it lasts for another couple years untill i find something better to spend >$100 on |
| 22:37:10 | ze | thanks for all the help and info everybody |
| 22:38:09 | ze | maybe if i get a used karma i can sacrifice the mainboard of the old one if there's somebody with a way to read the uBGA flash rom |
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| 22:39:30 | XavierGr | ze I think a rockboxed unit could do the job for you. |
| 22:39:41 | XavierGr | Rockbox has limitless capabilities |
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| 22:40:52 | sharpe | woo... |
| 22:41:11 | ze | XavierGr: yes but for the cost of getting an h1x0 we'd want to get a replacement plan |
| 22:41:36 | ze | especially since i still feel like it'd be a downgrade in every way but firmware |
| 22:42:30 | linuxstb | BHSPitLappy: http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/electronics-computers/the-ipod-hifi-306/index.htm |
| 22:43:21 | BHSPitLappy | linuxstb: I'll take personal experience over online reviews |
| 22:43:54 | XavierGr | ze: optical in/out!! |
| 22:44:11 | XavierGr | ze: perfect lossless recordings |
| 22:44:20 | preglow | ze: what unit you got? |
| 22:44:27 | XavierGr | rio karma AFAIK |
| 22:44:29 | ze | preglow: karma |
| 22:44:34 | preglow | wouldn't call that a downgrade, then |
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| 22:44:50 | ze | XavierGr: i don't have anything with opitcal i/o except a dvd player |
| 22:45:00 | dpassen1 | Us H1x0 owners are rather zealous at times |
| 22:45:09 | YouCeyE | hi.. is there going to be rockbox for h10? |
| 22:45:11 | XavierGr | ze:even then reocrding with analog is very nice in H100 |
| 22:45:18 | YouCeyE | iriver h10 |
| 22:45:32 | preglow | YouCeyE: if someone comes and starts it |
| 22:46:20 | ze | XavierGr: i never even used recording on my archos fm rec when i had it, except for guitar jams... i certainly wouldn't use it at home since i have a delta1010lt sound card to do 24bit/96khz with |
| 22:47:16 | ze | i'd use a dock with audio outs way more than recording heh |
| 22:47:56 | dpassen1 | Funny, I had an older flash player that used a dock and I despised it |
| 22:48:56 | ze | well the karma doesn't make you use the dock, but its well done enough that you want to |
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| 22:49:49 | ze | the only thing that the dock has thats not built into the the unit itself is the rca plugs and ethernet port |
| 22:50:00 | ze | which i guess means it does make you use the dock for ethernet transfers |
| 22:50:14 | ze | but not for usb or for charging |
| 22:51:48 | goffa | yeah.. karma dock was nice |
| 22:52:36 | preglow | _ethernet_ ? |
| 22:52:41 | preglow | what the hell's that for? |
| 22:52:55 | goffa | you can transfer files via ethernet |
| 22:53:00 | goffa | takes forever |
| 22:53:01 | preglow | what's wrong with usb? |
| 22:53:04 | goffa | but its pretty cool |
| 22:53:11 | Mikachu | what protocol does it use? ftp? |
| 22:53:14 | ze | preglow: by way of making up for the lack of UMS, there's a java app that'll transfer via ethernet |
| 22:53:24 | preglow | oh god, java |
| 22:53:30 | ze | no, thats the part that sucks, none of the transfer methods are open |
| 22:53:37 | goffa | yeah.. bloated and buggy as hell |
| 22:53:39 | sharpe | preglow: usb has an odd number of letters. ethernet doesn't. that's why. |
| 22:53:41 | ze | i have to say its the single fastest and most stable java app i ever used |
| 22:53:42 | ze | heh |
| 22:53:45 | sharpe | :D |
| 22:53:48 | goffa | the open source app crashed all the time |
| 22:54:06 | goffa | was hell on linux |
| 22:54:22 | ze | goffa: i just use rmmlite and its rarely given me so much as minor problems |
| 22:54:33 | goffa | would with me |
| 22:54:44 | goffa | i'd transfer about 5 flacs then it would mysteriously lose connection |
| 22:54:54 | ze | there's a linux usb driver out now too |
| 22:55:01 | goffa | cool |
| 22:55:05 | goffa | wasn't when i used it |
| 22:55:29 | ze | yeah its pretty recent, and i think write support is still at your own risk but reportedly usable |
| 22:55:57 | ze | i never got around to upgrading my kernel to the version required to try the versions of the driver since they added write support at all |
| 22:56:00 | ze | heh |
| 22:56:09 | ze | hmm |
| 22:56:40 | ze | this place seling the karma player-only for $100 buy-it-now has accepted a $60 offer on it previously |
| 22:57:20 | ze | "Iem as described, seems to be working good, would buy from again." feedback on the sale |
| 22:58:29 | linuxstb | Does the karma have a 2.5" hard disk? |
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| 22:59:02 | goffa | i don't remember |
| 22:59:06 | goffa | but i think it did |
| 22:59:33 | goffa | i think rockbox would be pretty sweet on a karma |
| 22:59:41 | goffa | of course i'd have to get mine fixed |
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| 23:00:33 | dpassen1 | linuxstb: No, it could not have been 2.5 |
| 23:00:35 | linuxstb | Ah no, I've just googled, and they seem to be 1.8" drives. |
| 23:00:48 | XavierGr | yes hitachi 1.8 |
| 23:00:48 | goffa | ok |
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| 23:01:12 | ze | yeah |
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| 23:01:16 | ze | 7mm thickness ones |
| 23:01:20 | ze | with ata interfaces |
| 23:01:25 | ze | afaik anything ata and 7mm would fit |
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| 23:01:50 | ze | people have dremmeled out their cases to make 9.5mm drives fit, but people complain that the case is a lot flimsier afterwards |
| 23:02:21 | ze | i'm not certain if anybody's tried any non-hitachi's |
| 23:02:37 | ze | people seem to mainly play it safe by going with those, even if ones from other vendors may work |
| 23:03:10 | ze | goffa: whats broken on yours? |
| 23:03:57 | goffa | wheel |
| 23:04:03 | ze | oh |
| 23:04:13 | ze | well its still usable without that, just not as nice |
| 23:04:17 | goffa | fell about 1 ft and landed on the corner |
| 23:04:21 | goffa | yeah it is useable |
| 23:04:25 | goffa | but |
| 23:04:31 | goffa | sucks compared to my other players |
| 23:04:34 | ze | heh |
| 23:04:48 | ze | yeah lack of wheel on the karma would detract a lot from it |
| 23:05:00 | ze | you can get a replacement mainboard for $28 on ebay |
| 23:05:13 | goffa | yeah |
| 23:05:23 | sharpe | okay, here's the latest screenshot... sharpe.bastardoperatorfromhell.org/images/invaders.png">http://sharpe.bastardoperatorfromhell.org/images/invaders.png |
| 23:05:23 | goffa | i should ebay the thing with broken wheel |
| 23:05:32 | sharpe | not that anyone asked for it, but still. |
| 23:06:04 | goffa | cool.. you porting that sharpe? |
| 23:06:09 | sharpe | yep. |
| 23:06:14 | goffa | sweet |
| 23:06:17 | goffa | used to love that game |
| 23:06:57 | sharpe | that's just a screenshot of it playing the demo, right before it freezes due to some error probably with the cpu emulation... |
| 23:07:16 | goffa | yeah |
| 23:07:30 | goffa | still nice to see someone working on that |
| 23:07:43 | sharpe | just started working on it yesterday too... |
| 23:08:07 | goffa | an atari emulator would be good |
| 23:08:14 | sharpe | :) |
| 23:08:23 | Mikachu | i would be happy even for a .ym player |
| 23:08:29 | goffa | ym? |
| 23:08:35 | Mikachu | atari music captures |
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| 23:08:40 | goffa | ha |
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| 23:11:09 | sharpe | i just need to figure out what's wrong... |
| 23:13:10 | ze | if i can get this replacement karma for $65, i think its my best bet |
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| 23:13:49 | ze | thats cheap enough to where i can take it for something to at least hold me over on a player from an as-yet-unreleased generation in a year or 2 |
| 23:14:00 | goffa | yeah |
| 23:14:10 | goffa | either that or get something thats out now for dirt cheap |
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| 23:14:17 | ze | yeah |
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| 23:14:59 | sharpe | this will be the third time i go through the cpu code... :'( |
| 23:15:53 | ze | this way i'll also have a spare battery and mainboard |
| 23:16:04 | goffa | yeah |
| 23:16:21 | ze | even though this mainboard isn't 100%, the only thing wrong with it is the hold switch, so |
| 23:16:24 | ze | heh |
| 23:16:29 | goffa | yeah |
| 23:16:39 | goffa | i guess hold switch isn't working on mine |
| 23:16:43 | goffa | but then... like you say |
| 23:17:01 | ze | the lack of a hold switch is an annoyance, but not a big deal |
| 23:17:28 | ze | and if it were ever to get rockboxed, it'd be easy to work around with a soft hold key combo |
| 23:17:42 | goffa | yeah |
| 23:17:49 | ze | which i always thought kinda made more sense than a dedicated hardware switch anyway |
| 23:18:04 | Mikachu | hardware switch is easier in pocket |
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| 23:18:20 | Mikachu | and for protecting the on button |
| 23:18:39 | ze | easier depends on the key combo and button layout |
| 23:18:44 | ze | on button depends on how the on button's wired |
| 23:18:55 | ze | i suppose holding it off is hard for firmware to do though |
| 23:18:59 | ze | heh |
| 23:19:20 | Mikachu | at least on ipods you need to turn hold off first |
| 23:19:31 | Mikachu | unless you carry around a universal plug, that also boots it :) |
| 23:20:18 | ze | hmm |
| 23:21:10 | Mikachu | heh, it doesn't boot if the plug isn't connected to power |
| 23:21:25 | ze | if there's any rw storage area for config on the karma outside of the HD |
| 23:21:34 | ze | then a soft hold would work just as well as the switch |
| 23:21:40 | ze | for the on button |
| 23:21:50 | ze | cause on the karma, if the hold's on, and you hit the on button |
| 23:22:00 | ze | the screen comes up and shows a lock graphic |
| 23:22:05 | ze | for a few seconds and then shuts off again |
| 23:22:12 | Mikachu | that's a bit silly |
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| 23:22:21 | ze | it doesn't spin up the HD or even turn on the backlight i don't think |
| 23:23:33 | ze | hmm well the backlight blinks on for a split second whenever you press the on button, even when locked |
| 23:23:47 | ze | but yeah since firmware is in flash rom |
| 23:24:00 | ze | well hmm |
| 23:24:12 | ze | i guess it'd still be weird with a soft hold |
| 23:24:52 | ze | there'd have to be some way to turn on the hold while the player's in some sort of on state and also instruct it to shut off with the hold engaged |
| 23:25:28 | ze | and then when you actually wanted to turn it on you'd have to have some combo to override the hold status or turn it on to where it did that lock graphic sorta thing and hit the hold combo to turn it off and make it boot |
| 23:26:05 | ze | i suppose a special combo that means "turn on hold and shut off" and then another combo that means "turn on and turn off hold" would work ok |
| 23:26:17 | ze | i'm sure this is all moot :p |
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