00:00:04 | dionoea | i just added a 14x(6*14) bitmap |
00:00:09 | amiconn | .bss section from hell... |
00:00:13 | preglow | yeah, and i'm blind, it seems |
00:00:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | bluebrother: This isn't really the Rockbox Development Channel... |
00:00:19 | * | amiconn would like to see the .map |
00:00:26 | BHSPitMonkey | "Rockbox 3.0 expected before 2008!" |
00:00:27 | bluebrother | "Rockbox channel −− like the weather in europe, still waiting for summer to release" ;-) |
00:00:34 | bluebrother | isn't it? |
00:00:35 | Aghaster | lol |
00:00:36 | amiconn | murks |
00:00:36 | preglow | i just didn't consider the possibility of ram actually being filled... |
00:00:40 | nobelium | it's summer here |
00:00:42 | nobelium | 38ºC |
00:00:42 | nobelium | :p |
00:00:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: If he made the images too large, could that do it? |
00:00:48 | Genre9mp3 | lol bluebrother |
00:00:52 | BHSPitMonkey | it's about 100F outside... |
00:00:57 | BHSPitMonkey | (in Texas) |
00:01:00 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: i guess so, but hell, those'd need to be bloody huge |
00:01:02 | dionoea | amiconn: rockbox.map ? |
00:01:05 | amiconn | Bah, imaginable units, please |
00:01:23 | * | amiconn gets calculator |
00:01:30 | Aghaster | uhhh, fahrenheits |
00:01:36 | preglow | 100f is close to 35c, no? |
00:01:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: 35.5 where I am. |
00:01:39 | bluebrother | ~10° here (according to the internet) |
00:01:51 | dionoea | hehe, sokoban.map |
00:02:12 | Mikachu | preglow: units; You have: tempF(100); you want: tempC; 37.7778 |
00:02:20 | Febs | That reminds me of a time when I sat on an airport shuttle behind two women who were talking about the weather. One was American, and was talking about degrees F. The other was from Iceland, and was talking about degrees C. |
00:02:36 | Febs | But neither realized the other was using a different measurement unit. |
00:02:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | There are too many "degrees" in general. |
00:02:42 | preglow | Mikachu: where'd i find those functions? |
00:02:43 | Aghaster | haha |
00:02:49 | Mikachu | preglow: units is the best program ever |
00:02:53 | preglow | roit |
00:02:58 | preglow | hah |
00:03:00 | preglow | i've got it too |
00:03:30 | Mikachu | you can do awesome stuff like this |
00:03:30 | dionoea | amiconn: does that help http://pastebin.com/763572 ? |
00:03:32 | Mikachu | You have: 2GiB / 128 kbps |
00:03:32 | Mikachu | You want: minutes |
00:03:32 | Mikachu | * 2236.9621 |
00:03:33 | preglow | Febs: both swilling whiskey by the bottle, then? |
00:04:49 | bluebrother | when speaking of GiB ... I think we should use the IEC prefixes when calculating file sizes based on powers of 2 |
00:05:04 | Febs | It was a riot. "Oh, it averages about zero in the winter." "Wow, that's really cold! It only gets down to zero here about once a year." "Oh, I didn't realize it's so mild in this part of America." |
00:05:07 | amiconn | Wow... more than 504KB of bss ... |
00:05:19 | preglow | hardcore |
00:05:19 | * | amiconn wonders what's going on in sokoban |
00:05:31 | amiconn | AH, hmm, I think I know what it it |
00:05:43 | dionoea | 24 bit bitmap ? :) |
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00:05:51 | * | amiconn remembers that someone changed the level loader to load everything it can |
00:06:05 | amiconn | ..which means using all avaliable plugin ram. |
00:06:15 | dionoea | oh |
00:06:20 | amiconn | But the current size is just overkill on swcodec devices |
00:06:26 | | Quit klrspz () |
00:06:35 | amiconn | Just decrease the array size a little, and you should be fine |
00:06:35 | dionoea | #define MAX_BUFFERED_BOARDS (PLUGIN_BUFFER_SIZE - 0x2000)/SOKOBAN_LEVEL_SIZE |
00:06:39 | preglow | and should be lowered drastically |
00:06:40 | dionoea | this one ? |
00:06:49 | amiconn | dionoea: |
00:06:50 | dionoea | like - 0x3000 ? |
00:07:01 | preglow | lots mor |
00:07:02 | preglow | e |
00:07:10 | amiconn | preglow: Not drastically. Just enough to make it fit |
00:07:30 | amiconn | Otherwise archos would end up with a tiny buffer |
00:07:39 | amiconn | ..or we would need a separate formula |
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00:08:37 | dionoea | well 0x3000 works ... should i try to find the lowest possible value ? |
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00:10:06 | amiconn | Don't bother doing a too fine-grained search. 0x2800 should work as well, that's 2KB less than 0x3000 |
00:10:26 | dionoea | ok, i'll keep it at 3000 then |
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00:13:57 | dionoea | time to go sleep. Good night |
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00:16:53 | lookingforhelp | I still dont have a debain folder... |
00:17:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Debian |
00:17:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Two slashes |
00:17:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | \\Debian |
00:17:20 | lookingforhelp | I know |
00:17:25 | lookingforhelp | My computer cant find one |
00:17:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, you've typed it "debain" twice in here |
00:18:05 | lookingforhelp | I need a username and password :P |
00:18:10 | preglow | user |
00:18:11 | preglow | and 'rockbox' |
00:18:15 | preglow | in that order |
00:18:18 | preglow | with that case |
00:18:29 | lookingforhelp | Ooh |
00:18:34 | lookingforhelp | Thanks so much it worked! |
00:18:54 | lookingforhelp | Can i put my patches in here and patch up the CVS with vmware? |
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00:19:29 | preglow | sure |
00:19:45 | preglow | you've now got a fully qualified developer environment |
00:20:14 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: what, smb is case-sensitive? |
00:20:22 | lookingforhelp | Wow |
00:20:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: He had the I and A transposed |
00:20:42 | Mikachu | preglow: it differentiates between ai and ia |
00:21:26 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: yes, also, i am blind |
00:22:15 | Mikachu | too much beer? |
00:22:32 | preglow | no, that just makes me go cross-eyed, not blind |
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00:24:55 | preglow | anyway |
00:24:57 | preglow | sleep time |
00:25:00 | preglow | have a blast |
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00:27:47 | amiconn | preglow: Username isn't case sensitive with windows networking. Password is, of course |
00:30:06 | lookingforhelp | Thanks again you guys, it worked for me. Maybe I'll write a tutorial on the forums |
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00:35:38 | amiconn | If someone with an fm recorder or recorder v2 is around - please test the latest bleeding edge (whether the battery symbol & charging animation are working as intended) |
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00:44:14 | haibane | hi guys |
00:45:02 | haibane | quick question for anyone who knows about the album art stuff. I get my album art to show up, but all my text is all over. What patch do I need for that? |
00:45:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Scroll Margins |
00:46:06 | haibane | thanks man |
00:46:09 | haibane | and hello again |
00:46:14 | PaulJam | it can also be that you use the wrong font |
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00:52:03 | haibane | oh |
00:52:04 | haibane | hmm |
00:52:24 | haibane | make[1]: *** [/home/haibane/rockbox-devel/build/apps/screens.o] Error 1 |
00:52:24 | haibane | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
00:52:40 | haibane | that is what I get when I do the compile with the current scroll margins build |
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00:52:51 | haibane | it also has errors on certain hulks |
00:53:04 | Mikachu | oh no, watch out for the hulk |
00:53:09 | haibane | haha |
00:53:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, since the patch didn't apply cleanly, that's probably why it doesn't compile. |
00:53:20 | haibane | right |
00:53:55 | haibane | do I have to clean out what I have in order for it to compile in the future or is there someway to remove the damage the patch did? |
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00:54:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Was it patch -r or patch -R the patchfile? |
00:54:30 | Mikachu | -R |
00:54:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | Does case matter? |
00:54:39 | Mikachu | yes |
00:54:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Alrighty, patch -R -p0 blah.patch |
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00:54:49 | Mikachu | -r is another option |
00:54:58 | Mikachu | something about the reject file |
00:55:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Apparently it's been a while since I removed a patch. |
00:55:29 | haibane | haha |
00:55:34 | haibane | nice |
00:55:45 | Mikachu | in the future, use −−dry-run to save time |
00:56:22 | haibane | what do you mean? |
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00:56:48 | Genre9mp3 | I would do this: cvs diff -u > *.diff & then: patch -R < *.diff |
00:57:18 | Mikachu | i would do cvs diff -u | patch -R -p0 |
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00:58:21 | Genre9mp3 | yes... I forgot the -p) |
00:58:26 | Genre9mp3 | -p0 |
00:59:01 | haibane | cvs diff: No CVSROOT specified! Please use the `-d' option |
00:59:01 | haibane | cvs [diff aborted]: or set the CVSROOT environment variable. |
00:59:17 | haibane | that is what I get when I do the recommended by mikachu |
00:59:55 | Genre9mp3 | haibane: you should be in the source root dir when you type that |
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01:00:08 | haibane | ah ok |
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01:01:43 | haibane | I wish the stupid scrolling margins worked though lol |
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01:02:54 | Genre9mp3 | haibane: you can make it work... |
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01:04:20 | haibane | and I can program too |
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01:17:17 | Genre9mp3 | \o/ Yuppie!!! I got my first conflicts on CVS update! :) |
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01:21:04 | midkay | amiconn? |
01:21:28 | amiconn | yes? |
01:21:32 | P-NuT | Hi all. I saw the screenshots of rockbox, does it come with colors not monochrome? |
01:21:48 | midkay | "Two-colour animation kept for non-b&w targets.' |
01:21:51 | midkay | what does that mean? |
01:22:45 | amiconn | Slasheri added two-colour animation for iriver (and afaiu it also works on ipod video) |
01:23:11 | midkay | *puzzled* didn't see the update.. |
01:23:22 | amiconn | Battery symbol is filled up to the current charge level with black (or fg colour) |
01:23:39 | amiconn | The animation move from this level to 100% in grey |
01:23:42 | amiconn | *moves |
01:23:47 | midkay | ah, nice idea. |
01:23:54 | P-NuT | pffft. |
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01:24:13 | amiconn | I kept that, and extended the start-from-current level idea to the b&w targets |
01:24:31 | midkay | amiconn, useful change :) k, thanks for clarification. |
01:24:35 | amiconn | ..including player |
01:24:49 | amiconn | ..which was completely broken by Slasheri's change |
01:24:57 | midkay | haha. |
01:25:14 | amiconn | I'll change some more things |
01:25:39 | midkay | cool. :) |
01:25:40 | amiconn | First of all, all targets that support charging will get a charging state indication |
01:25:58 | amiconn | ..even those which can't monitor the charging itself |
01:26:10 | amiconn | ..other than by checking the voltage |
01:26:48 | amiconn | Only the number of states will differ depending on th elevel of charging control |
01:27:07 | pill | did something unexpected happen to the fonts? |
01:27:34 | midkay | cool.. |
01:27:43 | midkay | pill, other than them being moved to a new zip like a month ago.. |
01:27:48 | midkay | no, not that i know of. |
01:28:24 | amiconn | Ipods other than the video need some more work |
01:40:50 | dpro | re |
01:48:38 | XavierGr | ah nice to know that the VMware image comes handy for newcomers :) |
01:49:24 | XavierGr | The network issue is killing me though, if the network settings in host are weird, then //debian/user will not work. |
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01:58:14 | haibane | so since I haven't said much in a while... anyone know of an alternative to scrolling margins? |
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02:11:12 | Genre9mp3 | haibane: There isn't |
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02:16:20 | ts-x | haibane: You can adjust the line spacing so that the tag items appear just past the album art, but you won't be able to scroll... |
02:24:11 | Genre9mp3 | haibane: if you want to use the scroll margins patch you have to insert manually the rejected parts of the patch |
02:24:43 | Genre9mp3 | 2 conflicts to xerw... |
02:25:06 | Genre9mp3 | ooops... |
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02:25:10 | Genre9mp3 | sorry |
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02:32:31 | haibane | sorry forgot this was open how do you adjust the line spacings? |
02:33:26 | haibane | and what do you mean I wouldn't be able to scroll |
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02:55:28 | ts-x | haibaine: I mean physically inserting whatever amount of spaces are required to space past the album art for each tag line e.g. ' %ia' etc. |
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02:56:20 | ts-x | That method would space it properly - you just wouldn't be able to scroll (or the tags would scroll over the album art) |
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04:02:01 | JdGordon | gah, never try streaming video over a 10mbit connection :p |
04:02:43 | JdGordon | sorry.. scratch that.. never try watching video over XDMCP over a 10mbit connection.. |
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05:44:59 | haiyai | Hi |
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06:01:08 | haiyai | hi |
06:01:41 | NicP | hi |
06:01:42 | NicP | :D |
06:01:48 | Xinux | heya |
06:02:35 | haiyai | whats up? |
06:03:54 | NicP | not a lot |
06:04:01 | NicP | procrastinating |
06:04:04 | NicP | study sucks :( |
06:04:18 | haiyai | I here that |
06:05:54 | haiyai | are you guys working on the port? |
06:06:47 | NicP | nope |
06:06:53 | NicP | not me |
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06:09:12 | haiyai | do you use rockbox |
06:20:04 | NicP | i dont have an ipod yet |
06:20:11 | NicP | so no |
06:20:22 | NicP | (or any other dap for that matter) |
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07:00:39 | JdGordon | markun is the gigabeat man |
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07:10:33 | Brunellus | hi all; I'm running the daily CVS build on an iRiver H340. Some high-bitrate oggs are not playing...is this a known issue? |
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07:24:36 | sharpe | morning everyone... |
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07:32:09 | Brunellus | I'm running the daily CVS build on an iRiver H340. Some high-bitrate oggs are not playing...is this a known issue? |
07:33:51 | JdGordon | try asking once more... maybe ppl will give an answer then :p |
07:35:12 | markun | Brunellus: Q10? |
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07:35:24 | Brunellus | markun, not sure, but probably something like that |
07:35:26 | Brunellus | sorry JdGordon |
07:36:14 | Brunellus | I have lower-q oggs that do play fine, but lately I nudged the q up on the last several I've been encoding, and rockbox chokes. the iriver factory firmware plays them just fine. |
07:37:05 | markun | Didn't think the H340 would have problems with it. Do you have EQ enabled? |
07:37:34 | Brunellus | in rockbox? |
07:37:40 | markun | yes |
07:37:41 | Brunellus | not sure. I hadn't touched it. |
07:39:17 | Brunellus | EQ is not enabled. |
07:39:18 | markun | btw, maybe a lossless encoding is more for you if you like very high quality and bitrates, but that doesn't solve the real problem of you oggs not playing of course. |
07:39:45 | Brunellus | markun, I'm starting to come around to that. Unfortunately, it's many many discs too late... |
07:40:18 | markun | You don't have the CD's anymore? |
07:40:32 | Brunellus | I do, but ripping/reencoding would be a major pain |
07:40:51 | markun | But not 'too' late |
07:40:52 | Brunellus | I have about 3400 oggs. |
07:41:35 | Brunellus | are q10 ogg vorbis files simply not supported yet? |
07:42:09 | markun | I thought they were, but perhaps not. |
07:42:33 | Brunellus | when I try to play one of the affected files, it shows (root) (root), the filename, O:00/0:00 ?kBit (no id) |
07:42:59 | Brunellus | attempting to play the file directly has rockbox skipping to the next and showing the spanner in the top-right |
07:44:14 | markun | I'll make a q10 file and try it |
07:44:21 | sharpe | i don't use oggs... :\ |
07:44:56 | markun | sharpe: great |
07:45:12 | Brunellus | markun, just so you know, I'm using oggenc |
07:45:22 | markun | me too |
07:45:34 | Brunellus | would you like the oggenc commandline options? |
07:45:40 | markun | ok |
07:45:55 | Brunellus | -o %m -a %a -l %d -t %n -d %y -G %G -b %b %w -N %t |
07:46:09 | Brunellus | no wait, that's not right. |
07:47:12 | markun | You set the bitrate by hand? |
07:47:20 | sharpe | omaaldtndyggbbwnt... that's an odd word. |
07:47:40 | Brunellus | markun, yes |
07:47:45 | Brunellus | bitrate was at 192 |
07:48:15 | markun | That should be way less than q10 |
07:48:54 | Brunellus | thought so. q6 maybe? |
07:49:29 | markun | Let me check |
07:49:34 | Brunellus | still doesn't make them any more usable by rockbox. |
07:49:52 | markun | yes, q6 |
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07:50:14 | Brunellus | yup. still not usable, though |
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08:57:15 | wehn | Does anyone know of how to bring up the file tree context menu (with delete etc) using the H100 remote? |
08:59:05 | wehn | holding Navi on the main does it, but the remote key with all the corresponding fuctions (Navi/menu/preset) doesn't seem to do it. |
08:59:58 | amiconn | Hold play |
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10:08:28 | JdGordon | hey LinusN, did u see my logf stuff on the ml? |
10:09:01 | LinusN | yes i did, i just haven't had time to review it? |
10:09:33 | B4gder | you really should write better mails JdGordon |
10:09:46 | B4gder | as they complained on |
10:10:05 | JdGordon | bah, ill pretend english isnt my 1st language :D |
10:10:11 | B4gder | well |
10:10:23 | B4gder | you won't be taken seriously when you write like a little kid |
10:10:34 | B4gder | imho |
10:10:36 | JdGordon | bah! |
10:10:51 | B4gder | and I'm not even a native enlgish speaker/reader |
10:11:16 | B4gder | you can bah, I don't think that changes much |
10:11:34 | B4gder | I'm only telling you what I think, you're free to ignore |
10:11:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's true that many people lose interest in an email as soon as they see that sort of writing. |
10:11:53 | B4gder | I do |
10:11:56 | JdGordon | cmon.. its not that bad it is? |
10:12:20 | B4gder | as I said, you won't get the attention you want it to get |
10:12:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's also not that hard to type out full words, and pay just a little bit more attention when you write. It's a matter of the fact that many people will make assumptions about you based on the face you present. |
10:12:54 | B4gder | the better english and correct spelling and grammer you use, the more people will read it and the better you and your ideas will appear |
10:13:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | In the real world it's how you look, what you wear. On the internet, it's how clearly you express yourself in most cases. |
10:13:52 | B4gder | besides |
10:13:58 | JdGordon | Date: 03-Jun-2006 23:53 <- my excuse... who can be expecte to write properly @ midnight? |
10:14:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's 3 AM where I am right now. :-P |
10:14:12 | B4gder | people who are bad at english have an even harder time to read "weird" english |
10:14:17 | * | JdGordon goes to kill english teachers for making me not give 2 shits about the english language :D |
10:14:34 | * | petur sends Paul_The_Nerd to bed |
10:14:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | petur: In all fairness, I just woke up. I fell asleep far too early. |
10:15:01 | B4gder | haha |
10:15:05 | petur | rofl |
10:15:17 | petur | well goodmorning then ;) |
10:15:47 | preglow | roflmorning |
10:16:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm taking a C/C++ course over the summer, more to fill in some credits than anything, and ended up staying up all night a few nights ago knocking out the whole semester's homework. |
10:16:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | And that's of course thrown everything off. |
10:16:23 | ashridah | JdGordon: contrary to popular opinion, it isn't an english teachers job to make sure you can read and write english properly. |
10:16:32 | ashridah | that should really be done well before you get to high school |
10:16:55 | preglow | i learned my english from c64 games and computer magazines :P |
10:17:02 | ashridah | the english teacher's supposed to encourage critical analysis and form, not spelling, grammar and coherency :) |
10:17:29 | JdGordon | ... whatever... |
10:17:39 | JdGordon | oh noes!! i used unnescacery dots! |
10:17:56 | B4gder | unnescacery dots, yes ,-) |
10:18:43 | ashridah | unnecessary Ellipsis you mean? :) |
10:20:02 | * | ashridah installs ubuntu amd64 |
10:20:15 | petur | I even hate spelling mistakes and typos in program comments ;) |
10:20:31 | * | JdGordon just installed dapper on this comp... MUCH faster than breezy |
10:23:01 | JdGordon | so anyway, whats the story with 3.0? |
10:24:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's not out yet? |
10:27:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Honestly, I'm starting to lean in favour of cancelling the freeze. "Due to certain currently unfixable showstopper bugs, 3.0 has been cancelled. Once the H300 power issue is resolved and TagCache functions more fully, we will re-enter a bug-fixing freeze with the intent of releasing 3.0. Until these issues are fixed, though, the freeze is stopping progress more than it is encouraging bug fixing." Or something like that. |
10:28:00 | B4gder | I agree |
10:28:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | It seems the fairest way to treat it. |
10:28:55 | JdGordon | that does just mean more bugs down the track when u want to try the freeze again. |
10:28:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then, before re-entering the freeze, we can go through the tracker and create a specific checklist of bugs. Of course, new ones will be found during it, but that way work isn't happening on getting features like TagCache integrated. |
10:29:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | And while the playback rewrite is awesome, I think it added a lot of delay into the freeze because it did introduce a lot of bugs along the way. |
10:29:27 | nudelyn | <hypnosis>album art should be in 3.0 as well, and i want a helicopter</> |
10:32:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Doesn't the album art patch currently introduce bugs into tagcache? |
10:33:33 | nudelyn | Yeah, I think it's all messed up at the moment. Well, last I looked, which was a while ago as I figure 3.0 will have to happen first before album art is in CVS anyway. (I wasn't being serious that AA should be in 3.0, just daydreaming.) |
10:34:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, if the feature freeze were to get released, it would become a possibility, but I mean, it'd have to not knowingly increase the count of bugs. :) |
10:35:43 | nudelyn | yeah, and given the complications so far that's unlikely. |
10:38:30 | nudelyn | I tihnk helicopters can cause crashes too :( |
10:38:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Those are much more of the "serious injury" to "lethal" category |
10:40:22 | LinusN | i worked some on the power issue yesterday |
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10:40:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Any news? |
10:40:53 | LinusN | not really, but i traced a few more signals, and i might have found some good clues for petur |
10:41:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's good at least. |
10:41:15 | * | petur jumps in the air |
10:41:24 | LinusN | look at PortPinAssignments |
10:41:33 | * | petur gets strange looks from coworkers |
10:42:25 | petur | WHOA |
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10:43:56 | petur | would be nice to know for sure what GPIO pins 28 and 29 do |
10:44:32 | LinusN | ok |
10:46:27 | amiconn | Wee, hi LinusN :) |
10:46:28 | petur | but the reset and d_suspend pins are *great* info |
10:48:08 | LinusN | petur: i fiddled a little with those pins, and suddenly it consumed 300mA instead of 100mA :-) |
10:48:21 | petur | duh |
10:48:26 | JdGordon | haha.. no we r trying to reduce power usage.. :p |
10:48:28 | amiconn | LinusN: Did you find out which chip consumes the extra power? |
10:48:33 | LinusN | no |
10:48:47 | LinusN | and it annoys me |
10:48:48 | petur | you probably activated the charge-pump ;) |
10:48:50 | perplexity | good for a raipd deep cycle battery test then :) |
10:48:56 | amiconn | Ok, so I'll try to find some time and do some temp measurements tonight |
10:48:57 | LinusN | haha |
10:49:24 | amiconn | Still have that infrared thermometer available :) |
10:49:35 | perplexity | could even add a "pocket warmer" config entry.. |
10:51:24 | amiconn | LinusN: Do you know which combination triggered the even higher consumption? |
10:52:58 | * | amiconn already knew about gpio5 from the disassembly |
10:53:07 | amiconn | Should have documented it :/ |
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11:08:22 | LinusN | amiconn: when i negated the reset and the suspend pins |
11:19:32 | petur | Why negate the reset? also, negating d_suspend wakes up the isp1362, so I'm not surprised by the power increase |
11:20:58 | LinusN | of course, that's what i wanted to accomplish |
11:21:13 | petur | ok :) |
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11:28:06 | markun | LinusN: which one? |
11:28:18 | LinusN | video 60gb |
11:28:42 | preglow | \o/ |
11:28:54 | preglow | confetti time! |
11:28:59 | LinusN | i just couldn't resist |
11:29:13 | B4gder | mp3holic |
11:29:27 | preglow | they practically give them away these days too |
11:29:39 | LinusN | wee, finally white earbuds - a fashion statement! :-) |
11:29:45 | preglow | haha |
11:29:50 | petur | meeeh |
11:38:01 | Genre9mp3 | LinusN: First impressions? |
11:38:55 | LinusN | none really, i just packed it up and charging it for the first time |
11:39:04 | LinusN | the form factor is nice |
11:39:09 | LinusN | large screen |
11:39:36 | preglow | the screen is nice indeed |
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11:42:16 | tucoz | Now that the webmasters are here. Do you agree with preglow that we should keep the ipod-installer etc in a safe area. That is, not in the wiki. To prevent abuse |
11:42:55 | Rick | writelock the page? |
11:43:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | There's not an official ipod installer yet... |
11:43:12 | tucoz | As it is now, anyone can upload a root-kit installer with the same name as the ipod-installer |
11:43:38 | petur | http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/06/07/nvidia_mobilemedia_play/ |
11:44:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | At the moment anyone can upload anything and claim it's an installer, and we wouldn't know until someone reports back that it isn't. |
11:44:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Once there's an official installer, it'll probably be available at the daily build page anyway, which qualifies as 'protected' |
11:44:54 | tucoz | Paul_The_Nerd, exactly. That is why I propose a www.rockbox.org/installers or something like that |
11:45:05 | tucoz | it's not everyday those files are updated after all |
11:45:20 | tucoz | and mainly by key-contributors |
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11:46:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | I don't understand the point exactly... |
11:46:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | The only existing installer is the 2.5 one, right? |
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11:46:51 | tucoz | I wouldn't know. My point is just that the installers/patchers should be kept safe. |
11:47:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well... aren't they already? |
11:47:09 | pekuja | Is it true that there will be no new features in version 3.0? This makes me wonder, why does it count as a major release if there are no new features? |
11:47:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | pekuja: Compare it to 2.5 |
11:47:20 | tucoz | Unoffical or official doesn't matter. |
11:47:26 | B4gder | pekuja: there are numerous new features |
11:47:36 | pekuja | ok, I must have misunderstood then |
11:47:40 | B4gder | its just a matter of what "new" is |
11:47:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | pekuja: There is nothing new relative to say... today's daily |
11:47:46 | tucoz | pekuja, new targets |
11:48:06 | pekuja | Paul_The_Nerd, haha, well you'd think that was kind of obvious :-) |
11:48:16 | B4gder | well, 3.0 features like 8 new music formats compared to 2.5 ;-) |
11:48:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | tucoz: So you're saying, forbid people from uploading installers to the wiki, and require them to do it through us? They're just gonna host 'em offsite then, because even now the wiki is too much hassle for most of 'em. |
11:48:39 | pekuja | I was just thinking because I remember someone commenting something like "I can't believe people still think there will be new features in 3.0" |
11:48:57 | tucoz | Paul_The_Nerd, no. I am just saying that the installers provided by rockbox should not go through the wiki. |
11:49:07 | B4gder | pekuja: yes, new features compare to the daily builds I believe |
11:49:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | pekuja: It's not to a LOT of people, oddly enough. There's this impression going around that "Rockbox 3" is going to solve all the world's problems, and people seem to not realize that all the code that's done is already in CVS, and that it's just a daily build with the 3.0 stamp attached to it saying "We dub this release quality." |
11:49:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | tucoz: They already don't. Problem solved. :) |
11:49:56 | preglow | the manual has wiki installer tool links |
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11:50:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hm |
11:50:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's not good then. |
11:50:13 | preglow | being my point |
11:50:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | pekuja: I suspect you may be quoting me. |
11:50:24 | tucoz | well, they could. That is my point. What if Han Solo uploads a root-kit installer to the wiki late at night |
11:50:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | pekuja: In which case, yes, I meant "relative to what's available right now" as opposed to "Compared to the previous release version" |
11:50:38 | preglow | and no matter if we write protect a page, there might be wiki bugs |
11:50:48 | pekuja | Paul_The_Nerd, hehe, I might. it was on this channel I think, and the person was pointing to a forum post about 3.0 |
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11:51:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | tucoz: Yeah, but as I said if there's a protected installer page, people are gonna just host installers offsite because it's easier. Have you noticed how many iPod installers are hosted elsewhere? |
11:51:24 | tucoz | And the manual points to that file. Hurray. then we have OMFG, ROCKBOX INSTALLED A ROOT-KIT |
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11:51:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Have the manual point to the official "Downloads" page |
11:52:10 | tucoz | Paul_The_Nerd, I don't care about the installers hosted elsewhere. I care about the "official" ones. |
11:52:14 | tucoz | provided by rockbox |
11:52:24 | tucoz | official != released |
11:52:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | tucoz: You said unofficial installers as well. |
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11:52:53 | tucoz | well, I meant unofficial as in not released |
11:52:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | The _only_ official installer right now is the windows installer for 2.5 |
11:53:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | At rockbox.org/download |
11:53:05 | tucoz | hehe |
11:53:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Released or not |
11:53:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's the only one supported |
11:53:28 | tucoz | Ok. The iriver patcher then |
11:53:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | fwpatcher.exe? |
11:53:37 | tucoz | yes |
11:53:44 | webguest43 | hi all |
11:54:00 | preglow | that needs work, btw |
11:54:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's a rather different category than installer... |
11:54:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | For that you have fwpatcher.exe ipod_fw.exe and ipodpatcher.exe, at least |
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11:54:27 | bluebrother | maybe the fwpatcher / ipodpatcher stuff should be located somewhere outside of the wiki? Say, on rockbox.org/tools? |
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11:54:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | All those are available in the source, but yeah, off the downloads page there should be precompiled windows versions of the tools perhaps |
11:54:46 | tucoz | bluebrother, that is what I am trying to say. But, I failed somehow |
11:55:04 | tucoz | I mixed up installer with patcher |
11:55:23 | bluebrother | ah, ok. Let's hope I was clear enough ;-) |
11:55:27 | tucoz | hehe |
11:55:48 | bluebrother | and, saying this, also including all installers that are officially supported by rockbox. |
11:56:02 | bluebrother | I'm still thinking of a web updater wizard. |
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12:06:11 | * | JdGordon is bored and has an hour o kill.. who's got ideas? |
12:06:28 | preglow | fix the resampler clicking bug |
12:06:32 | dpro | hihi |
12:06:39 | bluebrother | you could read this incredible bug discussion: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316654 |
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12:07:13 | dpro | JdGordon: and optimize it enough while you're at it so the dropouts disappear |
12:07:35 | bluebrother | I'd like to have an optimized ogg codec :) |
12:07:41 | * | JdGordon knows nothing bout the playback code.. |
12:07:51 | JdGordon | sif use gnome :D |
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12:08:36 | dpro | preglow: with the cpu boosted by hand I didn't get any dropouts yet (with wav though, mp3 still has dropouts) |
12:08:49 | tucoz | JdGordon, you could fix the iriver radio to have two separate frequency bands (japanese/restoftheworld) |
12:08:53 | tucoz | :) |
12:09:00 | preglow | dpro: doesn't surprise me |
12:09:08 | preglow | well, it does a bit |
12:09:13 | preglow | depends on your boost factor |
12:09:19 | JdGordon | japan uses a different frequncy band? |
12:09:32 | JdGordon | isnt every1 between 86ish-109ish? |
12:09:49 | preglow | dpro: what is the trend on the pcm buffer debug meter when it happens, btw? does it decrease slowly all the time until it suddenly hits bottom, then gaps? |
12:09:58 | preglow | JdGordon: not different, just bigger, afaik |
12:10:09 | tucoz | JdGordon, I think japan starts at 72 or something |
12:10:28 | JdGordon | there is a patch on FS to get everything from 27 all the way to the end.. |
12:10:51 | bluebrother | cool: http://www.elephantsdream.org/ |
12:10:55 | dpro | preglow: when I actually managed to look at it while seeing a dropout (that occur fairly irregularly) it was like you describe |
12:11:07 | preglow | then it's a simple cpu usage problem |
12:11:08 | preglow | nothing i can do |
12:11:12 | preglow | apart from optimise more |
12:11:20 | tucoz | JdGordon, but the chip in the iriver do not support sub-72 I think |
12:11:29 | preglow | same problem as with eq gapping |
12:12:03 | dpro | preglow: yeah I noticed that I could worsen the problem by using eq, crossfeed etc ... |
12:12:16 | tucoz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM_band |
12:12:29 | JdGordon | grr... it uses the headfones for the aerial... but i always have it plugged into line out.. no wonder i count get radion at the footy on sunday :'( |
12:12:41 | preglow | dpro: then it's not really a bug as such, just a known issue |
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12:13:07 | dpro | preglow: but if I get the dropouts with wave also it's the resampler not being fast enough ? |
12:14:08 | dpro | preglow: well doesn't really change the annoyance factor if it's a "known issue" ;) |
12:14:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, but optimizations are kinda low priority compared to other things. |
12:15:16 | JdGordon | tucoz: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5448 |
12:15:48 | tucoz | ah. I see. But the chip in the h1xx is different |
12:16:11 | tucoz | or maybe not |
12:16:14 | tucoz | ? |
12:16:16 | JdGordon | i dont think so.. |
12:16:44 | tucoz | Well, that patch looks interesting. Thanks for the link |
12:16:50 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: What was edited out of the first post here? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4678.0 You talk about the original poster modifying the Apple firmware in your reply, but the original post doesn't mention that... |
12:17:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: He changed his deep sleep time to 15 minutes |
12:18:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | He talked about it on another thread, then created this one to complain more, and leave out information |
12:18:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'll admit it's a valid danger, but it's not an issue that comes up unless you leave your iPod unattended plugged into a wall until it enters deep sleep, which is usually much more than "15 minutes after charging is done" |
12:20:03 | linuxstb | I've just read the other thread... |
12:21:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Feel free to comment. I fear I may have been a little one-sided, and my intent was really to clarify that it wasn't actually Rockbox that caused the problem directly. The second thread was originally titled "rockbox destroyed power units of ipod" and I felt it was a little overly blame-placing. |
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12:24:18 | sputnik | Hello!!! Anybody home? |
12:24:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Often |
12:25:01 | sputnik | Cool! Got a BIG problem, and I'm hoping someone can help |
12:25:30 | sputnik | I've got an Archos Jukebox Recorder, with Rockbox loaded in the firmware |
12:26:15 | sputnik | Last night, I upgraded to v2.5...now I get the "*PANIC* Stkov main" bug, and I CAN'T figure out how to fix it |
12:26:25 | sputnik | What am I missing? |
12:27:39 | tucoz | sputnik, the 2.5 version is close to 10 months old. Maybe you would want to try a daily? |
12:28:06 | sputnik | I'd love to. Unfortunately, I can't update the machine now. I can't access it under USB |
12:29:11 | sputnik | I can't find any documentation about a hard reset for the Jukebox Recorder. But pressing F1 while starting DOES bring up the original firmware...except that's crippled, so I still can't get USB to function. |
12:29:18 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: I don't think the poster was complaining about Rockbox in either of his posts - he just stated what happened. (I don't know what his original topic subject was though). But even without his modification to the Apple firmware, I still think it's a nasty bug (Rockbox not knowing the difference between disk mode and charging and going into an endless reboot cycle), so will try and investigate. |
12:31:21 | linuxstb | (sorry, just re-read your previous post where you quoted his original subject line). |
12:31:44 | tucoz | bluebrother, when I optv inside a code-block I get a space inserted where the opt is. Do you know how to fix this? |
12:32:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb:But yeah, no doubt it's a dangerous bug. Most people find out about the endless loop by plugging into wall power, having it cycle a couple times, then asking in the forums "How do I make it not do this". I know Kamalneet knew about that bug, so he knew the dangers, so I'm a little less tolerant of how he phrased the title. |
12:32:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | But the sooner the fixed, the better. |
12:33:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | If I recall, Mikachu or Midkay (I remember the M, the I, and a K somewhere in it) had a patch that caused the iPod to never reboot on USB-detect, just charge, and it had "Disk Mode" and "Retail Firmware" options in the menu instead. |
12:33:21 | Mikachu | that would be me |
12:33:33 | Mikachu | i inverted the BUTTON_MENU check |
12:35:13 | Mikachu | and the retail firmware thing was a patch i got from someone else |
12:35:29 | Mikachu | i don't have these changes separated out but i can make a full diff of my tree if you want |
12:35:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's not quite what I was talking about though |
12:36:06 | Mikachu | i know, just saying |
12:38:10 | linuxstb | The first thing to try though would be to see if the USB detection can be improved, so we don't reboot when the AC charger is inserted. |
12:38:30 | Mikachu | (i don't have an ac charger) |
12:39:09 | linuxstb | I do, so I'll be able to investigate. |
12:39:50 | sputnik | So if I can't access USB under the old Archos firmware, and the Rockbox firmware is locked up, how to I update the machine now? |
12:40:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | What's preventing access under the old Archos firwmare? |
12:40:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Pretend I can spell properly |
12:40:58 | sputnik | I don't know. I boot up under it, the USB icon comes up, but my computer never recognizes it. |
12:41:28 | sputnik | Since I was just using the same connection LAST NIGHT under Rockbox, I'm assuming there's something wrong with the Archos firmware's use of the USB for some reason |
12:43:28 | preglow | linuxstb: i had a look at it |
12:43:42 | preglow | USB_STATUS at least gave no indication that it differed between power and usb |
12:43:51 | linuxstb | And the GPIO ports? |
12:44:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | sputnik: Unfortunately, I really know very little about the Archoses. I'm still working on getting my hands on one. |
12:44:11 | linuxstb | (I remember you trying now...) |
12:44:26 | preglow | myep |
12:44:34 | preglow | a gpio pin did flip on power |
12:44:39 | preglow | but no difference that i could see there either |
12:44:54 | sputnik | Paul: it's okay. I was hoping someone would have a slap-my-forehead answer for me, but it was kind of a long shot. |
12:45:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | sputnik: Have you tried resetting the settings? I assume there's a button to hold while booting to do that, similar to the newer ports? |
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12:46:45 | sputnik | Paul: I think it's holding F1 while turning power on, but it just reverts back to Rockbox unless the USB is plugged in. |
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12:47:02 | sputnik | And holding F3 while turning power on does SOMETHING, but certainly doesn't seem to reset settings. |
12:47:16 | sputnik | So I'm stumped. |
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12:49:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | sputnik: Well, I thought you were talking about getting the stkov error when trying to get into Rockbox... is it when trying to USB connect after that or something? |
12:50:38 | sputnik | I get the stkov error EVERY TIME I start the Archos...unless it's connected by USB cable when I power up while holding the F1 button. Then, and only then, it reverts to the Archos firmware for USB, which apparently doesn't work. |
12:51:04 | amiconn | sputnik: You should always get usb access when booting the recorder with the usb cable already in |
12:51:28 | amiconn | Archos usb should also work |
12:51:35 | sputnik | amiconn: I thought so. But it's not happening. |
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12:52:32 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: There is no button for settings reset on archos |
12:52:57 | sputnik | amiconn: Thanks. That's what I needed to know. |
12:53:09 | sputnik | Blimey! Fifteenth time's the charm! I just got the USB up. |
12:53:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Thank you |
12:53:40 | amiconn | When rockbox is flashed, F1 will start the archos firmware, F2 starts rockbox (same as no button at all) and F3 starts minimon |
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12:54:01 | sputnik | Ah! What's minimon? |
12:54:08 | amiconn | The archos firmware in turn looks for an .ajz on disk and loads that if it finds it |
12:54:25 | linuxstb | preglow: I've just done some quick tests on my 5g, and there doesn't appear to be any GPIO differences there either. |
12:54:50 | amiconn | Minimon is a rescue software that allows accessing the box when the flashrom is almost completely garbled |
12:54:59 | amiconn | It requires the serial mod to use it |
12:55:06 | preglow | linuxstb: bloody annoying |
12:55:09 | amiconn | (a comparatively simple mod) |
12:55:39 | preglow | linuxstb: i wonder what's going on with USB_SATTUS when you insert, though, it seems to go through quite a few state changes here |
12:55:43 | amiconn | preglow: There must be some kind of difference, as retailos is able to differentiate |
12:55:58 | preglow | amiconn: sure |
12:56:06 | amiconn | I cannot test as I don't have a separate charger, just the usb cable |
12:57:37 | sputnik | Phew! I'm back in business! Thanks, guys! |
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13:04:07 | Jungti1234 | hi |
13:04:58 | amiconn | sputnik: I'd recommend updating to a recent daily build |
13:09:09 | preglow | amiconn: me neither |
13:09:19 | preglow | i had a mate of mine with a power adapter check too |
13:12:35 | linuxstb | preglow: Did you try testing in Apple's diagnostics mode? |
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13:18:44 | linuxstb | There seem to be two options (called USB DP and USB DN under Power/A2DTests) which are 0 when connected to a computer (or not connected at all), and numbers in the range 300-500 when connected via an AC adapter. I'm guessing "DP" and "DN" mean "Data Positive" and "Data Negative". |
13:20:57 | preglow | hmm |
13:20:59 | preglow | no, i did not |
13:21:49 | preglow | i don't seem to have that either |
13:22:50 | preglow | usbpwr_det, hmm |
13:26:02 | preglow | the diag code might benefit from some disassembly |
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13:31:04 | Genre9mp3 | What happened to the tracker??? |
13:31:25 | Genre9mp3 | Warning: mysql_connect(): |
13:31:32 | Genre9mp3 | :( |
13:31:53 | Zagor | i'm upgrading the server. back up in a minute. |
13:32:19 | Genre9mp3 | oh, ok |
13:33:12 | preglow | time to _PANIC_ |
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13:35:32 | Zagor | back now |
13:36:44 | tucoz | is viewcvs working properly again now? |
13:37:55 | Zagor | no, we still run the old version |
13:38:01 | tucoz | ok |
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13:42:45 | B4gder | viewvc it is these days |
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13:50:29 | * | JdGordon is bored again |
13:50:31 | petur | hahaha JdGordon... nice reply :) |
13:50:46 | JdGordon | the 2.5" h300 hdd thread? |
13:50:53 | petur | yeah |
13:50:56 | JdGordon | :) |
13:51:30 | JdGordon | beat u by 40s :D |
13:51:43 | JdGordon | no, 80s |
13:51:49 | * | petur is slightly less bored |
13:56:44 | preglow | hmm |
13:56:48 | petur | Paul_The_Nerd: regarding dualbooting irivers: people need to hold ON pressed until the iriver fw actually boots, not until the bootloader syas it will boot it... |
13:56:53 | preglow | anyone familiar with how to make doxygen realise i've got utf8 in my comments? |
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13:58:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | petur: Wait, what exactly do they need to do? |
13:58:34 | JdGordon | hold on+rec untill the iriver os actually starts |
13:58:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
13:58:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | I was just using the instructions from the iRiverBoot page. I didn't realize the process was different for H300... I'm curious why it's different. |
13:59:01 | JdGordon | well.. actually only on has to be held past "booting iriver firmware" |
13:59:14 | JdGordon | might be wrong on the page? |
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13:59:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | What happens if you release On? |
13:59:22 | petur | iriver fw checks the on button at boot time and powers down if it doesn't see the ON button |
13:59:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaaah |
13:59:39 | pondlife | Hi all, |
13:59:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'll update the IriverBoot page the |
13:59:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | then |
13:59:59 | pondlife | Does anyone apart from me ever use the H340 sim..? |
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14:00:22 | * | JdGordon occasionally... |
14:00:39 | JdGordon | whats trhe prob? |
14:00:55 | pondlife | I've long had a problem where if voicing and crossfade are enabled (and I'm running it under Windows), then playback sometimes fails with "Codec Failure" |
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14:01:27 | pondlife | This seems to be down to the use of _temp_codec.dll - it attempts to create a new one while the old one is still being used |
14:01:40 | * | Paul_The_Nerd has fixed the page. |
14:02:04 | pondlife | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5511 is a patch which works around this. |
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14:02:33 | pondlife | This only affects the sim, but it was getting in the way of voice debugging a bit. |
14:03:22 | pondlife | Maybe this wee mod could be considered for CVS? |
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14:03:55 | * | petur thinks the iriverboot page is now even more confusing |
14:04:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | I added like two lines. |
14:04:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | :-P |
14:05:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | In all honesty though, that complexity of that page shouldn't matter anyway. Installation instructions should be available in the manual (if they aren't already) and that's what end-users should use. |
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14:05:35 | preglow | kind of naive aren't you :> |
14:05:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
14:05:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | I said *should* |
14:05:54 | pondlife | Hah, I thought Llorean was the naive one... ;) |
14:05:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | And at the moment we don't have any H100 or H300 end-users. |
14:06:16 | pondlife | Or just the grumpy one? |
14:06:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oh, he's quite a bit of both. |
14:10:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | He also needs to remember to buy actual breakfast food next time he's at the store. |
14:10:54 | JdGordon | get coco pops :D |
14:12:29 | preglow | nah, he's too naive for breakfast |
14:12:58 | preglow | sweet lord, i'm tired |
14:14:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bah, food is food. Arbitrarily naming meals and enforcing types of food by those labels is descriminatory. |
14:14:18 | preglow | especially to the whole digestive system! |
14:14:22 | preglow | it prefers burger at all times |
14:15:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | And that is why McDonalds now has a 24-hour drive through window. |
14:17:31 | preglow | they do, do they |
14:17:52 | JdGordon | and they outsourced the attendant to india.. |
14:18:12 | preglow | i should stop speaking in palindromes |
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14:22:17 | obo | linuxstb: 2 gpio changes I noticed when I managed to borrow a firewire charging cable and a belkin battery pack |
14:22:35 | obo | linuxstb: GPIOB & 0x01 (F9 -> F8) and GPIOE & 0x10 (21 -> 20) |
14:23:18 | obo | doh, typo there - GPIOE & 0x01 |
14:23:26 | obo | this was on a 5g |
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14:30:41 | preglow | obo: sure that doesn't happen with usb as well? |
14:32:03 | obo | preglow: not sure - haven't got one here right now :-/ |
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14:35:52 | Jungti1234 | bye |
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14:36:16 | petur | LinusN: about time |
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14:36:32 | LinusN | had to charge it first, you know |
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14:43:22 | preglow | obo: neither of those change on my nano :/ |
14:47:32 | obo | preglow: when the belkin pack was connected but switched off it was GPIOA & 0x10 (28 -> 38) |
14:47:42 | obo | I'll check tonight what a normal USB connection does |
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14:51:35 | LinusN | pretty ok sound quality on the ipod |
14:51:56 | LinusN | takes some time to get used to the clickwheel though |
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14:56:23 | lowlight | pondlife: I have the same problem with the sims (h120 & h320 on cygwin)..."Codec failure" on any codec change. |
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14:58:32 | lowlight | It's failing to open archos/_temp_codec.dll in uisimulator/common/io.c line 327. |
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15:00:25 | tucoz | bluebrother, do you know what the font settings for the koma-script are. I want to change the look of the front page, to something similar as the rest of the manual. |
15:02:59 | tucoz | Or should I use standard tex for the frontpage to get a sans-font? |
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15:08:34 | pondlife | lowlight: Good - it's not just me then. |
15:08:39 | bluebrother | tucoz: you could try using \defaultfont |
15:08:59 | pondlife | lowlight: Maybe you could give the patch a try too... http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5511 |
15:09:01 | tucoz | bluebrother, ok. I am reading the koma-script guide now |
15:09:13 | bluebrother | for the standard fonts I need to look it up, but this needs to wait a bit as I'm not at home. |
15:09:18 | tucoz | I think I'll use their title-stuff |
15:09:19 | preglow | btw, what's the status for the iaudio port? |
15:09:22 | preglow | any huge outstanding issues? |
15:09:42 | B4gder | it runs fine |
15:09:45 | B4gder | just lacks a few bits |
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15:09:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | No proper dual boot bootloader, no radio, right? |
15:09:57 | preglow | B4gder: how's power consumption? |
15:09:57 | B4gder | yes |
15:09:59 | B4gder | and recording |
15:10:07 | B4gder | preglow: pretty bad |
15:10:24 | preglow | so another case of h3x0-itis? |
15:10:42 | B4gder | it might be, we haven't given it much work |
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15:14:59 | lowlight | pondlife: I'll try to test it later today. |
15:15:09 | bluebrother | tucoz: is it intended you didn't use gobble on the example environment? |
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15:16:02 | tucoz | bluebrother, yes. I didn't want the stripping of characters |
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15:16:37 | bluebrother | ok. I thought it was a nice idea to require indentation of code paragraphs ;-) |
15:16:47 | tucoz | If the example is written without leading spaces, the first characters are stripped |
15:17:23 | pondlife | lowlight: ok - you'll soon find out that the sim can be crashed rather easily (not because of the patch either) |
15:17:35 | tucoz | But, we could of course add that and force indentation by the writer |
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15:18:02 | bluebrother | it seems there are some leading spaces in some example environments |
15:18:17 | bluebrother | which will be typesetted as spaces, of course. |
15:18:46 | tucoz | Yes, there are. But, in case a writer forgets to indent the leading characters are not stripped |
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15:19:20 | tucoz | I don't know what is the best thing to do. |
15:19:35 | bluebrother | hmm. I think we should simply require the writer to look after this (which is the reason why I added that as note to the macro) |
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15:20:27 | tucoz | Ok. I can change it then |
15:21:14 | tucoz | I hope you don't mind the adjustments I did to your code-env |
15:21:57 | bluebrother | I guess not ;-) I was playing around with them a bit yesterday, but as I'm not at home I can't see how your changes look. Will do that later. |
15:22:08 | tucoz | ok |
15:23:27 | tucoz | if gobble = 4, do I have to indent 4 spaces? |
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15:26:00 | bluebrother | tucoz: you have to indent with 4 characters as 4 characters are stripped, thus yes. |
15:26:07 | tucoz | :) |
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15:28:45 | tucoz | bluebrother, http://www.ii.uib.no/~martina/rockbox-build.pdf |
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15:30:54 | bluebrother | tucoz, looks nice :) |
15:31:06 | tucoz | good :) Less dense |
15:31:33 | bluebrother | I thought about the line numbering in the code environment, maybe it's better to remove them or at least only number each 5th line or so. |
15:32:30 | tucoz | yes. that is perhaps better. fancyverb is a cool package |
15:32:44 | bluebrother | probably typing all wps tags (like %xl, Advanced Topics / Using Images) would also be better. Like \code-ing it. |
15:33:39 | bluebrother | as in the wps tags chapter. |
15:33:58 | tucoz | with the config macro? |
15:34:13 | bluebrother | yes. |
15:34:22 | bluebrother | I'd try it at least. |
15:34:45 | tucoz | I'll save that for later ;-). Got to go now. |
15:34:55 | bluebrother | ok |
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15:35:31 | B4gder | Paul_The_Nerd: I fixed that dl link so it works now |
15:38:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | No more sync issues? |
15:38:26 | B4gder | I ran a sync manually |
15:38:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | When I clicked on the link, it worked though.. |
15:38:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | Like, immediately when his email came out. |
15:38:53 | B4gder | yes, then I had fixed it |
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15:38:59 | B4gder | because I had already noticed the error |
15:39:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
15:39:02 | B4gder | before his mail |
15:39:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Gotcha |
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15:42:58 | XavierGr | B4gder: any good news with the new company that wants rockbox, or it is still early for that? |
15:44:43 | Genre9mp3 | XavierGr: It's SanDisk, right? |
15:45:25 | XavierGr | yes |
15:45:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Looking at pictures of it and everything, I find myself kinda wanting an e200 series... |
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15:49:16 | Genre9mp3 | The SD card reader is quite interesting I can tell... |
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15:52:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | And replaceable rechargeable battery, 6 gigs of flash on the high capacity model, and for some reason I really like the idea of a glowing blue wheel that actually turns. |
15:52:12 | B4gder | XavierGr: no news to report on that front |
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15:53:03 | JdGordon | glowing blue wheel that actually turns. <- ? |
15:53:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | JdGordon: http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/Image/DigitalAudioPlayers/Sansa-e200_straight.jpg |
15:53:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Similar to the clickwheel I believe |
15:53:57 | JdGordon | cool |
15:54:10 | B4gder | and the screen is rotated gigabeat-style |
15:54:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | What do you call that button at the bottom of the wheel? |
15:54:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | I can't pronounce that. |
15:54:53 | B4gder | haha "menu" perhaps ;-) |
15:55:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | The power button is labelled "Menu" though |
15:55:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Maybe "List" or something... |
15:55:14 | B4gder | oh, right |
15:55:41 | JdGordon | ye, something like that.. |
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15:56:43 | JdGordon | that player looks sweet.. too bad its only 6gb tho |
15:56:51 | B4gder | "only" 6gb flash |
15:57:20 | JdGordon | mind you... the music i actually listen to is less than that.. even tho my 20gb disk is full :p |
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16:05:38 | amiconn | The Sansa e100 series looks more interesting to me. To bad it's not available in higher capacities |
16:06:00 | XavierGr | argh! As soon as I woke up from my slumber and decided to work on the dice plugin, paid work calls.... |
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16:09:29 | JdGordon | gnite all. if any1 can bare my terrible english id really like some feedback on the logf message.. otherwise ill just have to bloody try again in esparonto or something |
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16:11:11 | petur | damn.. I just wanted to slap him with a large dictionary |
16:11:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mistakes are one thing, but intentional butchery of a language with things like "any1" and lack of capital letters is something quite different. |
16:12:30 | B4gder | and *one* person spending a little extra time to write a mail is better than 600 persons spending extra time to read that mail |
16:12:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Indeed. |
16:13:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | I can understand it in a conversational setting, to an extent, but when you're posting an email proposing something, the situation is also a bit more formal. |
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16:14:04 | Mikachu | "bare my terrible english" made me laugh a little |
16:16:16 | preglow | B4gder: any news on the devkit? |
16:16:24 | B4gder | not really |
16:16:36 | B4gder | I had another back-and-forth mails but then no more |
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16:16:39 | preglow | really looking forward to see that |
16:18:19 | B4gder | yes indeed |
16:20:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm very curious what you'll end up with in the way of docs. |
16:21:08 | B4gder | yeah |
16:21:16 | dwihno | Is it reasonable to power an external USB hub using 7.5 volts? I think I've found an old transformator of mine |
16:21:22 | B4gder | I don't think this guy had that part thought through |
16:22:28 | dwihno | ?? |
16:22:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | dwihno: That was in response to something else |
16:23:04 | dwihno | mkay |
16:23:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | dwihno: Can't you just check the labelling on the HUB and see what it expects? |
16:23:25 | dwihno | Paul_The_Nerd: This is a noname no label thing... :/ |
16:23:46 | dwihno | the standard fcc approval |
16:23:47 | XavierGr | preglow: devkit? |
16:24:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | I don't think you ran really reasonably predict which is going to be positive/negative, and so on anyway... |
16:24:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | can |
16:25:06 | dwihno | No, but I'm almost certain this is it... |
16:25:17 | dwihno | If the voltage is reasonable, this probably is it... |
16:25:42 | B4gder | besides, do hubs actually still exist? ;-) |
16:25:51 | B4gder | ah |
16:25:53 | B4gder | usb hub |
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16:27:03 | dwihno | Is 7.5v a reasonable voltage then? :) |
16:32:08 | petur | fine news from Norway: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/07/norway_rules_itunes_unfair/ |
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19:21:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm gone for hours, and the log tells me the only thing said while I was gone was "m00" |
19:23:06 | bluebrother | LOL |
19:23:37 | Ribs | m00 |
19:26:07 | amiconn | n11 |
19:26:32 | Rick | you need a log to look up just 15 lines? |
19:26:33 | Rick | :P |
19:26:46 | Rick | oh wait |
19:26:48 | Rick | you wern't here |
19:26:49 | Rick | hehe |
19:27:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's wednesday. I have an unhealthy habit that can only properly be fed on wednesdays. |
19:28:22 | Genre9mp3 | Great! Paul is back! Start talkin' again! :) |
19:29:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Actually, gotta go again. |
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19:30:14 | Genre9mp3 | m00 :) |
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19:32:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Scratch that. I'm here for several more hours yet. |
19:32:19 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: Checked the log? ;) |
19:32:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
19:33:13 | Genre9mp3 | Paul...deja vu, eh? |
19:33:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | When I had returned home, I found a note on my door in attractive handwriting, asking me to help set up a new <something I can't read>. I assumed it was from my new neighbour directly across from me, but the apartment number on the note doesn't match. I have *no* idea who lives in the apartment the note is from. At all. I'm frankly mildly afraid to go knock and find out. |
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19:35:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's not often that strangers I have never met, and probably never even seen or been seen by, leave notes on my door asking for help setting something up (possibly a phone? Though that hardly seems the sort of thing that is complex, but is the nearest fit I can match to this word) |
19:35:27 | earHertz | If I plug in my ipod under linux, how do I get it to automount? where would a usb drive show up inder linux? |
19:36:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Have you used a thumbdrive of media card reader of some sort before? |
19:36:25 | dpro | re |
19:36:27 | earHertz | Paul_The_Nerd: no. |
19:36:42 | earHertz | I mean, yes, but −− not under linux |
19:36:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, I figured that was implied. ;) |
19:37:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | The ipod should be at /dev/sda or sdb or sdwhatever, but I must admit I'm not terribly familiar with how to get it to automount. Never explicitly dealt with that before. |
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19:39:59 | obo | earHertz: if you have a recent kernel, take a look at udev |
19:40:22 | obo | you can set it up so your ipod always appears as /dev/ipod or whatever... |
19:40:57 | earHertz | obo: mount tells me this: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/?getfile=11753 |
19:41:00 | earHertz | fuck |
19:41:14 | obo | lol, bad mount |
19:41:34 | earHertz | udev on dev type tmpfs (rw) |
19:42:00 | earHertz | but dev's not a mount point, so that doesn't make sense to me |
19:42:56 | obo | what distro are you running? |
19:43:38 | earHertz | kubuntu. as a vmweare vm |
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19:43:54 | obo | okay - take a look in /etc/udev/conf.d |
19:44:02 | amiconn | bluebrother: around? |
19:44:05 | obo | create a new file, mine is called 025-ipod |
19:44:12 | obo | paste into that: |
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19:44:16 | obo | BUS=="scsi", KERNEL=="sd?2", SYSFS{model}=="iPod*", NAME="ipod", SYMLINK="%k" |
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19:45:57 | earHertz | obo: except for commente dlines, all it has is udev_log="err" |
19:47:37 | obo | do you have a series of config files under /etc/udev? |
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19:48:14 | earHertz | nope, just rules.d and udev.conf |
19:48:31 | obo | rules.d is a folder? |
19:48:36 | tucoz | bluebrother, thanks for the help |
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19:49:00 | earHertz | yeah, full of .rules files |
19:49:05 | amiconn | ah, hi tucoz |
19:49:08 | obo | okay - create a new one |
19:49:11 | tucoz | amiconn, hi |
19:49:17 | amiconn | tucoz: Some more Ondio manual related remarks |
19:49:34 | * | tucoz fires up emacs |
19:49:39 | amiconn | (1) The frontpage could state the Ondio type now that the FM and SP got separate manuals |
19:49:48 | amiconn | (Ondio 128 FM adn Ondio 128 SP) |
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19:50:29 | amiconn | (2) Playback options: The Ondio has no A-B repeat because of the lack of buttons to set the A and B mark |
19:51:51 | tucoz | Hmm, I think I will have to introduce a opt of the type of player. That is iriver, ipod, iaudio |
19:52:25 | earHertz | obo: thanks, I found a web page explaining it. ;) |
19:52:29 | amiconn | (3) The image describing the buttons is showing the Ondio SP even in the Ondio FM manual (no biggie) |
19:53:01 | obo | earHertz: cool :) |
19:53:47 | amiconn | (4) The description for hard poweroff is slightly wrong (last sentence of chapter 2.1). The Ondio has no power light that can go off, so the only thing that can go off is the display |
19:55:08 | amiconn | (5) There are several action tables describing an action with the button column showing 'n/a'. Imho actions shouldn't be shown at all when unavailable on a target |
19:56:09 | tucoz | regarding (5). That is the case for a lot of tables. However, not all tables are properly set up yet. |
19:57:42 | amiconn | (6) (chapter 2.2.4) The action of 'long press on Mode' is to accept the input for both picker and line edit mode |
19:58:48 | amiconn | (7) (chapter 2.3.2) Tagcache needs a reboot for commit before being usable |
19:59:14 | amiconn | (except when using dircache and having tagcache in ram, but that's not possible on archos) |
19:59:49 | amiconn | ..and the descriptions for the 3 options are still there |
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20:00:34 | sharpe | is Paul around? |
20:00:43 | amiconn | The note about increasing the max files in dir browser setting is wrong (for all targets) since the introduction of chunked browsing |
20:00:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | Depends. |
20:00:52 | sharpe | woo. |
20:00:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Am I going to regret saying "Yes?" |
20:01:01 | sharpe | i really doubt it |
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20:01:40 | sharpe | why don't we have stickies in each ipod forum, pointing to the wiki, as it seems that people don't really bother to read the general forum first... |
20:01:50 | sharpe | er, the FAQ. |
20:02:03 | tucoz | amiconn, finished ? ;-) |
20:02:04 | sharpe | and i can't remember if i suggested this to you already... |
20:02:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | You didn't suggest it already |
20:02:16 | sharpe | right. |
20:02:54 | amiconn | (8) The wps button table misses dir skip (probably for all targets) |
20:03:40 | earHertz | obo: it woun't auto-mount it, but I can manually miunt it, so good enough |
20:03:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | I do suspect though that the people who don't read the general also wouldn't read the FAQ if it were there. But I will come up with some sorta "Before asking questions, read this!" style post discussing the FAQ, the Manual, AND how to use the site's search functions. |
20:04:19 | sharpe | aye. |
20:04:24 | obo | earHertz: automount is seperate - udev just means it's always at the same place |
20:04:33 | amiconn | (9) (ch. 3.2) 'Mode' does the same as 'Left' in the menu |
20:04:38 | earHertz | obo: ah |
20:04:48 | lostlogic | amiconn: great work on the charging stuff! |
20:05:02 | amiconn | lostlogic: I'm not finished yet... |
20:05:03 | earHertz | obo: will umount flush the writebuffer to disk approprioatly? |
20:05:08 | lostlogic | amiconn: caught that, still... |
20:05:31 | obo | earHertz: (AFAIK) yes... |
20:06:08 | obo | eject after that is good also |
20:06:28 | earHertz | now tyou tell me ;( |
20:06:30 | earHertz | :) |
20:06:32 | amiconn | (10) Hmm, FM mode is missing quite a number of buttons... |
20:07:38 | obo | heh, it's no where near as important as umount |
20:08:36 | earHertz | crap, the 64MB memory patch doesn't seem to have worked |
20:09:10 | pixelma | tucoz: regarding the Ondio FM manual too -> the chessbox screenshot still shows old pieces (maybe valid for all Archos manuals?) and the bounce screenshot looks very bad... |
20:09:49 | pixelma | .. I put these two on my site - if you're interested |
20:09:51 | obo | earHertz: you're building the new target? |
20:09:59 | earHertz | yeah, 22 |
20:10:00 | tucoz | pixelma, ok. Yes, I am interested :) |
20:10:15 | pixelma | http://home.infocity.de/m.arnold/Manual-Screendumps.zip |
20:10:16 | earHertz | on a vmware kubuntu |
20:10:34 | tucoz | thanks |
20:10:40 | obo | that shouldn't matter - dunno what's going on there |
20:11:05 | earHertz | spent a lot of time puttign together ubuntu then kubuntu, imwheel, vm with two disks of 20GB and 16Gb, blah blah blah |
20:11:10 | * | amiconn curses ipod retailos for not booting the ipod with low batt |
20:11:33 | * | amiconn wants to log an ipod charging cycle |
20:12:11 | tucoz | amiconn, that was it? |
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20:12:59 | tucoz | I'll see what I can do now, and put the remaining issues on the bug-tracker |
20:16:26 | amiconn | tucoz: No, I'll continue this a bit later. The radio and recording thing needs comparison with other targets in order to understand how the original description is meant to be read |
20:17:06 | tucoz | Ok. thanks for the feedback anyway |
20:17:14 | sharpe | ties can double as a scarf. |
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20:20:49 | tucoz | it would be splendid if it was possible to use opt as not-opt |
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20:23:37 | amiconn | tucoz: I do appreciate all the tedious manual work very much... |
20:24:17 | tucoz | amiconn, thanks. I've been off for some time, so I've got some energy to work on it now :) |
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20:35:26 | bluebrother | tucoz, I guess it shouldn't be to hard to write something inverting opt. |
20:35:40 | tucoz | really? |
20:35:52 | bluebrother | I'll be off for some days starting from tomorrow, if I manage I'll try to give it a shot. |
20:36:16 | tucoz | Cool. Hmm. Maybe it is possible to find someting on google |
20:36:18 | bluebrother | I was thinking of a bit if-nesting. |
20:36:47 | tucoz | ok. I could look at the screenshot macro perhaps |
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20:44:35 | timofonic | Hello |
20:47:20 | timofonic | Any means of iriver E10 support |
20:47:21 | timofonic | ? |
20:47:59 | timofonic | What is the best rockbox supported player ever? And the same but with wifi? |
20:51:12 | bluebrother | tucoz, seems I've got something working :) |
20:51:19 | tucoz | Cool |
20:51:35 | tucoz | That is very usefull. |
20:52:51 | bluebrother | damn, still not working as expected :( |
20:54:46 | amiconn | timofonic: There is no 'best' player. All the supported players have their pro and cons |
20:55:45 | amiconn | As for the E10 support: it will happen when someone with an E10 and enough knowledge about embedded devices and reverse engineeering starts porting rockbox |
20:56:05 | tucoz | hopefully my latest commits didn't break anything |
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21:03:21 | haakjes | anyone who can tell me how to reach the first partition on my ipod nano with freebsd? |
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21:06:13 | tucoz | bluebrother, in case you get it working we could simply exclude the ondio for certain sections instead of including all other targets for that certain section. |
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21:10:06 | bluebrother | tucoz, please try this: http://pastebin.com/765842 |
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21:11:06 | tucoz | I'll try in a while. |
21:11:08 | tucoz | afk |
21:11:18 | bluebrother | requires the ifthen package, but that is part of tetex afaik. |
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21:19:39 | bluebrother | tucoz, bbl −− if it works just commit it. Haven't tried heavily though. |
21:19:43 | MrShlee | what the lame is Error -1? |
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21:23:18 | tucoz | MrShlee, with rockbox? I think it's a missing .rockbox folder and/or rockbox.iriver/ipod/iaudio file |
21:23:29 | amiconn | Now, let's see what I can find out |
21:23:45 | * | amiconn is running his H340 opened |
21:24:08 | MrShlee | tucoz *boots to original firmware and checks* |
21:25:03 | * | amiconn likes the fact that the ISP1362 is located on the front side of th epcb |
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21:25:31 | Genre9mp3 | OMG...It's a big day for H300 users.... |
21:26:04 | egotrippen | Genre9mp3: what happened? |
21:26:06 | egotrippen | i just got here |
21:26:28 | Genre9mp3 | amiconn has just opened his H340.... |
21:26:53 | Genre9mp3 | he is trying to find out the power consumption problem... |
21:26:57 | egotrippen | oh yeah, i read Febs or someone post he was gonna |
21:27:03 | egotrippen | he got oit? |
21:27:07 | egotrippen | it^ |
21:28:20 | amiconn | I'll check the temperature of the various chips after running for a while. First under retailos, then under rockbox |
21:28:41 | egotrippen | ah, yeah |
21:28:43 | amiconn | That should tell us which chip is consuming the extra power under rockbox |
21:28:46 | egotrippen | bset of luck to you |
21:29:07 | Genre9mp3 | Let's just hope that this will lead you somewhere.... |
21:29:12 | egotrippen | i just got here for the OMG, thought you might have had it already |
21:29:16 | egotrippen | :) |
21:29:43 | egotrippen | still, taht's excellent news |
21:29:46 | egotrippen | taht's^ |
21:29:50 | egotrippen | urg |
21:30:02 | egotrippen | that's^. having trouble typing today |
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21:31:40 | * | Genre9mp3 wishes for the naughty chip to reveal itself |
21:32:12 | amiconn | At least the infrared thermometer seems to be sensitive enough. I can measure that the RAM has 2..3 degrees (centigrade) more than the rest of the pcb |
21:32:27 | nobelium | you have an infrared thermometer :P? |
21:32:28 | nobelium | nice |
21:33:15 | egotrippen | just looking at the MayDay todo page... |
21:33:26 | egotrippen | is the power bug the main thing holding up the 3.0 release? |
21:33:44 | egotrippen | it's the only thing that's not at least 50% |
21:35:01 | egotrippen | or, that's probably not decided yet or whatever... don't want to step on any toes |
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21:36:37 | Genre9mp3 | Well I think that if the power leaking don't get solved, we won't have a 3.0 release...but this is ONLY for H300 |
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21:37:11 | petur | amiconn: because you seem to have more voice issues than me, I think it may be related to the voicefile used. I'm using the fast one which is much shorter. Which one do you use? |
21:37:49 | Hansmaulwurf | i think if the H300 power consumption bug would be the only bug left, they would release 3.0 without H300 support |
21:38:34 | egotrippen | Hansmaulwurf: right. i read the thread where that was talked about, but it didn't look like there was a clear answer |
21:38:38 | egotrippen | you're probably right, though |
21:39:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | There are other bugs that should be resolved. |
21:39:00 | amiconn | petur: I use a german voice file (at&t klara) |
21:39:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Such as the myriad voice issues. |
21:39:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | The H300 bug isn't the only big bug holding back release, it's the only bug that really makes a difference between the current status of the H100 and H300 |
21:39:43 | egotrippen | ah |
21:39:44 | egotrippen | ok |
21:40:34 | Genre9mp3 | Paul_The_Nerd: What are the major bugs due in 3.0 besides voice and the power leaking? |
21:40:35 | amiconn | The CPU consumes the most power in retailos (surprise surprise! ;) ). 5 °C more than the PCB |
21:42:23 | Hansmaulwurf | The H100 and H300 hardware is almost the same right? |
21:42:36 | Hansmaulwurf | besides USB otg and the color LCD |
21:42:46 | amiconn | Some details are also different |
21:42:51 | Hansmaulwurf | hm |
21:43:04 | Genre9mp3 | Hansmaulwurf: Also there is no SPDIF in H300 |
21:43:13 | amiconn | ..e.g. the H300 uses a complex power management chip which also does button adc, realtime clock, ... |
21:43:14 | Hansmaulwurf | yeah thats too :P |
21:43:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Genre9mp3: That's it primarily. There are a few other playback related bugs, and TagCache in my humble opinion is *far* from being "Done" (and it's listed as a 3.0 feature). I don't know if there's more beyond that. |
21:43:46 | Hansmaulwurf | so there is no sense in comparing the H100 and the H300 with your IR camera? :( |
21:44:03 | dionoea | hi |
21:44:12 | amiconn | I don't have an IR camera. Just an infrared (pyroelectric) thermometer |
21:44:45 | Hansmaulwurf | ah hm |
21:45:11 | Hansmaulwurf | there is a IR camera at my university i could use |
21:45:15 | Hansmaulwurf | but i only have a H120 |
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21:46:33 | Genre9mp3 | Paul_The_Nerd: Oh...I thought TagCache didn't have any problems... |
21:46:47 | Genre9mp3 | At least for me is running smooth... (H340) |
21:46:53 | Genre9mp3 | no problems |
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21:47:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Genre9mp3: Well the most noticeable is that if you remove a file, you have to delete the tagcache and then force update from a clean slate for the cache not to have the file in it. |
21:48:14 | Genre9mp3 | Oh...so force update does not remove entries? |
21:48:22 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: I agree that tagcache should be able to remove entries whose files no longer exist. On some targets, this should be optional though... |
21:48:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | There are also myriad other bugs like the one recently reported where automatic folder change can cause it to freeze, or the fact that I believe if you list Genres then Artists, when you pick an artist you see all songs by that artist rather than just those within the genre (this may have been fixed, and I missed the update) |
21:48:23 | MrShlee | Id like standalone tagcache utility. *scans for changes and updates the tags when you mount the Iriver* |
21:48:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Why optional? |
21:49:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | MrShlee: The code's all there for someone to make one. Foobar2k plugins, or stand-alone aps, or whatever. |
21:49:04 | sharpe | MrShlee: there has been some thoughts to a standalone version, as far as i know, nobody's *actually* gotten to work on it. |
21:49:18 | amiconn | On Ondio, someone might want to add the contents of several MMCs to the database, for finding duplicates, similarities, tagging errors etc |
21:49:30 | Hansmaulwurf | MMC? |
21:49:38 | amiconn | MultMediaCard |
21:49:46 | amiconn | *MultiMediaCard |
21:49:51 | Genre9mp3 | The only thing I have heard until today, was the id3 album art that caused tagcache to crash |
21:50:20 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
21:50:37 | amiconn | Tagcache also behaves erratically when hitting the 10000 file limit |
21:50:45 | amiconn | That already happened to several users |
21:51:14 | * | Hansmaulwurf is wondering how they reached 10000 files in tagcache |
21:51:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hansmaulwurf: Easy, if you use the SID patch. |
21:51:40 | Hansmaulwurf | SID? |
21:51:41 | amiconn | Even with mp3 it's pretty easy |
21:51:46 | sharpe | or if they have a very extensive music collection. |
21:51:51 | amiconn | Think of an archos with a 100GB harddisk |
21:51:56 | amiconn | (not uncommon nowadays) |
21:52:17 | amiconn | One user had about 15000... |
21:52:17 | Hansmaulwurf | hm ok |
21:52:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Ah, that's fair... I think TagCache should also splash on completion of the forced update possibly (or some other notification I suppose), and maybe notify somehow of duplicate entries though I'm not sure how that would work. |
21:52:42 | amiconn | Tagcache won't succeed in its commit, and try over and over each boot... |
21:53:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ouch |
21:53:48 | Genre9mp3 | hmmm..this reminds me the stupid 9999 file limit in iriver firmware... |
21:54:22 | amiconn | Hehe, indeed |
21:54:43 | amiconn | The archos recorder firmware had an even more stupid limit: 999 files per playlist... |
21:55:06 | amiconn | That effectively forbid an all tracks playlist |
21:55:23 | egotrippen | you have to wonder what the coders were thinking, sometimes |
21:55:56 | egotrippen | how big a HD did the archos players ship with? |
21:56:42 | * | amiconn succeeded in locating the heat source on the H300 pcb when running rockbox |
21:56:51 | amiconn | Unsurprisingly, it's the ISP1362 |
21:56:57 | Genre9mp3 | \o/ |
21:57:06 | egotrippen | \m/ \m/ |
21:57:06 | amiconn | 7 °C more than its surroundings |
21:57:13 | amiconn | ...even more than the CPU |
21:57:35 | amiconn | (which runs a bit cooler under rockbox than under retailos) |
21:58:01 | amiconn | The ISP1362 stays at environment temperature under retailos... |
21:58:21 | * | amiconn should probably try USB host mode under retailos |
21:58:27 | petur | bingo |
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21:59:03 | Genre9mp3 | amiconn: CPU is cooler in Rockbox than in retailOS ? |
21:59:14 | * | petur wonders if the suspend pin is pulled down by rb |
21:59:15 | amiconn | Yes, but only a little bit. |
21:59:30 | MrShlee | and the usb chip is powerhungry? |
21:59:59 | egotrippen | Genre9mp3: i don't think that's too surprising, on the H100s Rockbox gives slightly better battery life |
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22:00:54 | Genre9mp3 | slightly? |
22:01:12 | Genre9mp3 | XavierGr had 21 hours with his H140! |
22:01:17 | egotrippen | something like an hour or two, IIRC. i don't |
22:01:24 | egotrippen | or, not :) |
22:01:25 | nobelium | this question might sound stupid, but what does an OTG chipset have to do with the normla functioning of the iriver? |
22:01:26 | Hansmaulwurf | but only with a pimped battery egotrippen |
22:01:35 | nobelium | shouldn't it only be enabled when a cable is plugged? |
22:01:55 | egotrippen | ah, yeah. that's what i'm looking forward to, i have the 2200 mAh also |
22:01:59 | Genre9mp3 | BTW, is the diskpower off set to on by default, yet? |
22:02:01 | sharpe | yay, processor is at 156'F |
22:02:13 | petur | nobelium: everything if it isn't initialized correctly |
22:03:01 | nobelium | ah, alright...I thought it was only started when a cable was attached |
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22:04:11 | nobelium | since there are devices sensitive to physical connections |
22:04:19 | LeoStewart | In Linux, using the iPod, is there a way to hide the rockbox.ipod file from view? |
22:04:20 | nobelium | but i guess they're initiated anyhow |
22:04:40 | nobelium | LeoStewart, on iriver you can select "only show music files" |
22:04:43 | nobelium | or something similar |
22:04:51 | nobelium | it hides .rockbox folder and the .iriver file |
22:05:03 | nobelium | maybe show supported files |
22:05:14 | LeoStewart | Okay. As that feature might be in iPod, do you know where it might be? |
22:05:31 | nobelium | on iriver, under normal playback/WPS |
22:05:45 | LeoStewart | Alright, thanks. Will give it a shot. |
22:05:45 | nobelium | i hit a key and it shows a 3-way menu |
22:05:49 | amiconn | When the ISP1362 is activated by retailos, it reaches approx. the same temperature as under rockbox, even a bit higher |
22:05:55 | amiconn | (when actually copying data) |
22:06:10 | egotrippen | sweet |
22:06:27 | Hansmaulwurf | "show supported files" doesnt hide the .iriver file |
22:06:46 | Genre9mp3 | so now all we have to do is to somehow disable the chip in rockbox, right? |
22:06:50 | LeoStewart | damn. |
22:06:51 | petur | amiconn: do you want me to update my patch for you to try or will you try some gpio settings yourself? |
22:06:56 | LeoStewart | Well, I'm not sure what to do. |
22:07:06 | Hansmaulwurf | LeoStewart: why do you need the file to hide? |
22:07:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | LeoStewart: Put the .ipod file in the .rockbox folder |
22:07:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Just remember to put the new on there when you update |
22:07:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Rockbox looks for rockbox.ipod in the root, and then in the .rockbox folder if it's not found in the root. |
22:08:04 | LeoStewart | Well, I'd rather have the main screen to only have organized folders... kind of picky I guess. :) |
22:08:18 | Hansmaulwurf | its 1 file |
22:08:20 | Hansmaulwurf | in words: ONE |
22:08:23 | LeoStewart | Paul_the_Nerd: deal, will try. Thanks. |
22:08:41 | LeoStewart | Hansmaulwurf: ;) |
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22:08:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hansmaulwurf: I hide mine in the .rockbox folder too. |
22:09:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Zero is still lest than one, whether you spell it with all caps or not. :-P |
22:09:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | less |
22:09:40 | Hansmaulwurf | o_O |
22:09:44 | sharpe | actually it looks for the rockbox.ipod file in the folder first, doesn't it? |
22:09:46 | petur | Bagder: have a look at the log, 21:56 |
22:10:02 | LeoStewart | Paul_the_Nerd: worked like a charm! thank you! :D |
22:10:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | sharpe: I think you're right actually |
22:10:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, because the outdated one is invariably the one in the folder, which is the one it ends up loading if there are two |
22:11:08 | sharpe | :D |
22:11:10 | amiconn | petur: Do we know both H_SUSPEND and D_SUSPEND? |
22:11:28 | petur | only D_SUSPEND I think |
22:11:45 | sharpe | oh god. it's summer. |
22:11:49 | XavierGr | yay!!!! |
22:11:56 | Bagder | petur: and what more specifically am I looking for? |
22:11:59 | sharpe | no more school... |
22:12:01 | sharpe | that means... |
22:12:06 | sharpe | i have time to work on rockbox! |
22:12:17 | nobelium | i have exams :p |
22:12:23 | sharpe | already took mine |
22:12:31 | nobelium | 1 month to finish mine |
22:12:31 | petur | Bagder: amiconn found a heat source on h300 :) |
22:12:33 | nobelium | :s |
22:12:47 | Bagder | indeed good news |
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22:13:19 | Bagder | great even |
22:13:49 | petur | amiconn: Linus didn't note H_SUSPEND |
22:14:16 | shleeshle | the unit has OSS drivers.. and a general halt/suspend mode |
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22:16:23 | amiconn | petur: Hmm. Perhaps it's possible to find H_SUSPEND when looking for a D_SUSPEND mask in the disassembly |
22:17:21 | petur | I can't understand I didn't see those GPIO pins when looking at the disassembly. Must be me :/ |
22:18:26 | egotrippen | oes someone want to proofread a post i just made? i'm pretty sure i didn't botch any details |
22:18:27 | egotrippen | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?p=457524#post457524 |
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22:21:01 | Hansmaulwurf | lol |
22:21:23 | Genre9mp3 | egotrippen: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=41576 |
22:21:52 | egotrippen | aha |
22:21:56 | egotrippen | lol |
22:22:26 | egotrippen | it's been so long since a H300 specific update, i kinda forgot that existed |
22:23:01 | egotrippen | especially with the H300 experimental thing, really drew attantion away from it |
22:26:33 | tucoz | hehe, Llorean with a comment as always :) |
22:26:48 | * | Paul_The_Nerd looks innocent. |
22:26:54 | Genre9mp3 | :) |
22:27:28 | egotrippen | hey, it's good to add. i said it doesn't mean much for end-users, but it makes sense to drive that home |
22:28:09 | egotrippen | plus, without posting everywhere he woudn't be known as the info guy :) |
22:28:21 | egotrippen | he's got a reputation to uphold |
22:28:39 | petur | the pcb tracing Linus did should help a lot to tame the chip |
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22:29:16 | tucoz | amiconn should have a webcam set up for this kind of operation |
22:29:19 | amiconn | petur: Iiuc, the x_SUSPEND pins are both inputs & outputs, and we need to do the following: |
22:29:31 | amiconn | (1) properly reset the chip |
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22:30:12 | amiconn | (2) Pull the suspend pins high (or set them to input if they have pullup resistors - something to be checked by Linus) |
22:30:23 | amiconn | (3) Tell the chip to go into suspend mode |
22:31:04 | petur | for (3) I already gave some code to Linus which didn't work of course |
22:31:29 | amiconn | I would expect the chip to not enter suspend mode if the suspend pin(s) are low |
22:31:33 | petur | shall I update my patch or are you going to tweak 'n test? |
22:31:53 | amiconn | I'll skim the disassembly a bit first |
22:32:00 | petur | setting the pins high should be a quick test |
22:33:03 | amiconn | Yeah, if we knew both pins... |
22:34:16 | petur | I wonder if Linus tried to find the other and failed or was tracing the chip pin by pin and ran out of time |
22:34:24 | Chamois | only DC can give 20 mA |
22:34:36 | Chamois | as said in the datasheet |
22:35:43 | petur | amiconn: when testing, don't forget to disable the 5V (charge-pump) too |
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22:36:09 | petur | Linus tried only that one but saw no difference |
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22:36:51 | petur | (gpio1 pin 21) |
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22:40:04 | * | amiconn did find actually useful information on misticriver for the first time - about opening up the H300 |
22:40:16 | shleeshle | http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/pip/isp1362.html mucho grande |
22:40:23 | amiconn | That's what I used to get in: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=34257 |
22:41:08 | petur | shleeshle: links to the doc are already in the wiki ;) |
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22:47:36 | petur | damn... i2c_write() doesn't seem to like it when the irq is disabled :/ |
22:49:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Anyone know the resolution of the e200's display by chance? |
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22:53:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nevermind, found it |
22:53:14 | Bagder | and what is it? |
22:53:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | 220x176x16 |
22:53:23 | Bagder | ah |
22:53:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though apparently sandisk says "a future version" could go up to 18-bit color |
22:53:31 | Bagder | familiar ;-) |
22:53:41 | petur | rofl... sure |
22:53:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, I suppose 176x220x18 in reality then |
22:53:42 | Bagder | yeah right |
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22:54:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Apparently the realistic battery time is 18 hours. |
22:55:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | And the best feature of all: The back is made, supposedly, of a titanium alloy and is incredibly scratch resistant. I mean that's just a dig at iPods right there. |
22:55:59 | petur | I'd care more about the front.... |
22:56:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, me too. ;) |
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23:05:50 | * | petur finds a new way to boot original firmware (and is a bit puzzled by it) |
23:06:10 | petur | I accidentally double-clicked the on key |
23:07:16 | petur | is this known? |
23:08:05 | bluebrother | on which target? Doesn't work on my h120 (still bootloader v5) |
23:08:11 | petur | h340 |
23:08:27 | bluebrother | maybe I should update the bootloader ... |
23:08:48 | petur | it never went into our bootloader |
23:09:01 | petur | must be another boot path? |
23:10:15 | petur | bluebrother: I think it is h3x0 specific |
23:10:16 | egotrippen | yeah, works for me too |
23:10:26 | egotrippen | H340 |
23:10:33 | petur | weird |
23:11:02 | egotrippen | it didn't open up the bootloader at all, just straight to iriver fw |
23:11:17 | bluebrother | petur, I guess so, but updating my bootloader shouldn't hurt anyway (I'm aware h300 and h100 have pretty much different bootloaders ;-) |
23:11:32 | egotrippen | hm, i can't repeat it |
23:11:53 | egotrippen | ah, there it goes |
23:12:20 | egotrippen | seems like you have to kind of hold it down as you douple click, long presses |
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23:13:05 | egotrippen | ah, 22 second boot time |
23:13:10 | egotrippen | i love rockbox |
23:13:21 | petur | :D |
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23:15:27 | tucoz | bluebrother, it looks like your \nopt works like a charm |
23:15:36 | bluebrother | tucoz, great :) |
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23:16:10 | tucoz | hopefully someone will use it :) |
23:16:33 | bluebrother | at least you did ;-) |
23:17:08 | tucoz | yes. that felt nice |
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23:18:02 | bluebrother | I guess we need to update the LatexGuidelines eventually |
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23:18:57 | tucoz | hrm. Yes, that might be a good idea. But, I am off for today. |
23:19:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Why is the manual in British English? |
23:20:10 | bluebrother | I'll be off until the end of the week. Need to see if I manage to look around during that time. |
23:20:15 | tucoz | Cassandra wrote the 2.4 docs. She is english |
23:20:19 | tucoz | british |
23:20:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mind you, it's not a complaint, but the English translation of Rockbox seems to b American English, and the only cited reason was consistency. |
23:20:22 | bluebrother | Paul_The_Nerd, because the original version was british. |
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23:20:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
23:20:37 | bluebrother | damn, I was too slow ;-) |
23:20:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, that makes sense then. |
23:20:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | As it is, I seem to use a hybrid of the two when I type. |
23:21:13 | tucoz | good night |
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23:21:29 | * | petur notices Paul_The_Nerd starts to type like JdGordon |
23:21:43 | bluebrother | I guess most of us are typing a mixture of british and american english ... |
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23:22:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, I had a mix of Australian, British, and American education so I'm all messed up. |
23:23:23 | bluebrother | hehe, found myself when searching for that quote on the world language to be bad english instead of english :) |
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23:43:45 | LeoStewart | I'm able to install Doom, but is there anyway to change the directory of where I can place the 'Games' folder? |
23:43:57 | LeoStewart | I'd rather not have a blank folder on the main screen |
23:44:22 | dionoea | in the source code i guess |
23:44:33 | LeoStewart | damn... |
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