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#rockbox log for 2006-07-16

00:00:06DoubleThink2'night people.
00:00:30 Part DoubleThink2
00:04:39 Quit S0ap (Client Quit)
00:10:29Lokutoshmm i've found the power consumption equation i was thinking of and to my surprise it indeed seems that power is linear to freqency but quadratic to voltage..
00:13:12Lokutosdamn it.. i thought rockbox would gain a lot by using both cpus. now it seems that this will not be the case unless we can lower voltage with frequency
00:13:23Lokutos:(
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00:33:33amiconnnight
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00:35:24XavierGroh cool!
00:35:36XavierGrntfs-read-write driver for linux!
00:35:45XavierGrat last!
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00:43:53S0apand supposedly better than the commercial ones!
00:46:34XavierGrare there commercial ones?
00:48:34S0aphttp://www.ntfs-linux.com/
00:48:46S0aphttp://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
00:49:20S0apNVM the inclusion of captive, I misread the /. summary
00:49:37S0apParagon (the first link) is commercial
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00:54:14Sanicato build rockbox, where do I put the source (in the cwgwin folder)?
00:54:21Sanicaits been a while..
00:54:50Sanicaor does it matter?
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00:56:02PaulJami don't think it matters, but choose a path that doesn't contain spaces
00:56:15[San]kk, thanks
00:56:57[San]and whats the configure command in cygwin?
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01:00:27linuxstb_What do you mean?
01:01:03[San]in the rockbox devkit it was 'config'
01:01:10[San]..tools/configure ?
01:02:03linuxstb_../tools/configure - assuming you've created a build directory in the usual place, and you're currently inside it.
01:02:25[San]yeah
01:02:28[San]thanks
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01:11:18Lokutosapple_os.bin which is created during rockbox bootloader installation contains the apple os, right? can anybody tell me where it loads to?
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01:13:39Lokutosi mean which address.. i'm going to disassemble it in ida. i heard it's hard (or rather very hard) to understand, but i'm good at reverse engineering.. :)
01:19:21[San]is the old Rockbox Dev kid compatable with the new sources?
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01:23:58Bloody_Sorcererargh.
01:24:10Bloody_Sorcererany x5 dual-booters?
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01:26:36linuxstb_Lokutos: It loads to 0x10000000 (which is where DRAM is mapped to at bootup). But then DRAM is remapped to 0x00000000. There is also 96KB of IRAM at 0x40000000.
01:26:44linuxstb_The entry point is also 0x10000000.
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01:32:01Bloody_Sorcererargh...
01:32:07Bloody_Sorcererwhy must the dualboot thing be horrendously confusing
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01:32:37Lokutoslinuxstb: thx
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01:33:36linuxstb_np. Have fun...
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01:38:15Bloody_Sorcereroh... thats easy. now i feel retarded.
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02:06:37MembrilloYo, anyone in the house?
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02:07:10Membrilloobviously not...
02:07:52Membrillowell, if anyone turns up, I've got my battery bench file open up in micro-excel and I'm just what graphs would be useful\interesting for me to make
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02:21:46midkaybattery_bench.txt? that's most useful just uploaded to the.. er.. (ipod or iriver) port's Runtime page.
02:22:10midkayah, i see you've done that.
02:22:15Membrilloyep
02:22:30Membrillojust out of interest i felt like making some graphs
02:22:41Membrilloim not sure what comparisons to make though
02:23:28midkayprobably a line graph or so of runtime vs battery-level-remaining..
02:23:40Membrilloin volts?
02:23:48Membrilloor %
02:24:18midkay%, i'd say.
02:24:41Membrillodone
02:25:09Membrillopretty interesting, it looks quite steady but every now and then it has these quite large drops then goes back up to where it was
02:25:21Membrillowonder why....
02:25:23midkayhmm..
02:25:30midkayprobably disk accesses.
02:26:22Membrillowhy would it resume straight to its equilibrium though? and im talking every few hours or so... why would it need to randomly access the disk every couple of hours
02:27:19midkayis there more in the playlist than can fit in the buffer?
02:27:33Membrillonope
02:27:39Membrilloi wouldnt say so
02:27:43Membrilloit was one 4 minute song
02:28:00midkayhmm.
02:28:02midkayno idea then..
02:28:07Membrilloare you on windows?
02:30:25sharpemidkay!
02:30:34midkaysharpe!
02:30:34Membrillohttp://www.filelodge.com/files/room24/646941/battery_bench.xls
02:30:36midkayMembrillo, yes..
02:30:36Membrillocheck it out
02:30:40midkaysure.
02:30:43Membrillobizzare battery behaviour
02:31:14Membrilloby the thickness of the line, it looks like its continually jumping up and down as well
02:32:14Membrilloyeah, by reducing the thickness of the line on the chart you can see that the line is no where near consistent
02:32:32Membrilloit also hits 0% and stays there for about an hour haha
02:32:32midkaywell it's not expected to be a straight 100-to-0 drop.
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02:33:26Membrillono, of course not
02:33:36Membrillostill, its a curious graph
02:33:54midkayh/o, i can check it in a few minutes..
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02:34:12Membrillorightio
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02:35:09Harry.//SAY $SERVERIP
02:35:13Harry38.99.64.210
02:35:30Membrillowatcha doing there buddy?
02:35:31midkay..
02:35:59midkayback in a few
02:36:20MembrilloHarry, what was the point of that?
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03:04:15modafromanhi guys :)
03:06:05JdGordonmorning
03:07:20sharpeg'night
03:08:43midkaysharpei.
03:08:57sharpehmm?
03:09:50midkay"sharpei". that is all.
03:10:09sharpeokay.
03:11:06midkayi think i'll play more PREY!!! any interest in hearing me scream some more?!
03:12:04sharpeah, maybe later.
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03:12:32midkaylovely.
03:13:38JdGordondoes anyone else think some of the recent commits arent really under the whole feature freeze thingy?
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03:14:15midkaytechnically perhaps, but.. *shrugs*
03:14:24midkayonly i'd say the runtimedb thing.
03:14:52midkayit's developer-oriented anyways.
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03:33:37JdGordoncan anyone try opening a file with text_editor and lemme know if it works?
03:33:41JdGordonit seems to be fubar here
03:35:25modafromandoesnt work for me
03:35:34modafromanin text view i mean
03:37:59modafromanbahahahahahah i just stole 600 euros and then 1600 euros.... hehehe
03:38:17modafromanin www.slavehack.com ofcourse
03:38:19modafromannot irl
03:38:21modafroman:)
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05:01:04midkayJdGordon, what, you expected text_editor to actually be functional? don't you remember who coded it?! ;)
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05:01:43earHertzmidkay: coded it?
05:01:52midkay.. coded text_editor.
05:01:53midkaybbiab.
05:02:32sharpehe's got to go play prey some more and scream.
05:03:50Paul_The_NerdIs Prey in the "It's supposed to be scary" category?
05:04:02Ricknah
05:04:17*Paul_The_Nerd shrugs
05:04:26Rickthere were a couple bits were I was really creeped out but nothing really scary
05:04:49sharpeRick: yeh, but you never heard midkay play it.
05:04:58Rickmidkay?
05:04:59midkayhaha.
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05:05:07earHertz.me plays with his balls and catapult
05:05:07Rickoh :P
05:05:20Paul_The_NerdDoes anyone know a good way to contact MisticJeff?
05:05:21sharpeearHertz: still playing with souptoys?
05:05:30earHertzyeah!
05:05:32MoosHello here !
05:05:34sharpehahah
05:05:42earHertz it's so cool
05:05:49sharkforceblah
05:06:12sharkforcewhy is it so hard to find a file host that allows hotlinking for free XD
05:06:28JdGordonmidkay: hehe, it was being retarted here and i wasnt sure if it needed fixing or what was wrong
05:06:28earHertzsharkforce: imageshack
05:06:36midkay:)
05:06:38sharkforcenon picture
05:06:38JdGordonturns out a recompile fixed it
05:06:38midkay*dunno*
05:06:42sharkforcepictures is ez
05:06:48sharkforcebut i mean say a song
05:06:52sharkforceor something
05:07:20sharkforceand then all of a sudden you cant
05:08:02earHertzhave you played with teh "nuclear reactor" playsets?
05:08:25sharkforcethe what :O
05:08:40earHertza bunch of magnets
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06:28:24JdGordonPaul_The_Nerd: jeff still hasnt got back to u? that sux
06:28:42JdGordonand taking the settings menus out of the core frees up 10kb on the h300 build
06:28:48Paul_The_NerdWell, I'm sure that mailbox is often full.
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06:41:04JdGordonPaul_The_Nerd: the recorder is the target most resticed by core file size ye?
06:41:33Paul_The_NerdI'm not sure which of the Archoses is, honestly.
06:46:29JdGordon6kb saved getting rid of the menus from the recorder... that means 6kb more room for useless crap :D
06:48:24Paul_The_NerdIf a positive way can be made to offload them.
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07:04:51CreativePonyNeigh
07:07:36Paul_The_NerdI think the general policy in here is to speak English. Though I don't think the issue of specifically non-human languages has come up.
07:08:07midkayhaha.
07:09:40*CreativePony droops her ears out to the sides
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07:10:43Paul_The_NerdWell, that was the strangest moment of my day.
07:10:51Paul_The_NerdBut then, it's 12:10 AM, so there's a lot of day left.
07:12:06midkayhaha.
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07:33:08sharpehooray!
07:33:30BHSPitMonkeyyarooh!
07:34:36scorche`oorayhay
07:34:37sharpehoorah!
07:36:17JdGordonyipppeeeeeeeee
07:36:26sharpecongratulations!
07:37:03JdGordonwhat r we hooraying aboout?
07:37:25scorche`sharpe recieved a generous donation of brain cells?
07:38:25sharpescorche`: yeah, the excess of yours, besides that one for the whole breathing thing.
07:38:50scorche`yes...i do have an excess of brain cells....thank you =)
07:39:01sharpeyou're welcome!
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07:39:28sharpemr clean, mr clean...
07:40:01sharpeare there lyrics to that?
07:40:41scorche`a quick google search reveals that there are...
07:40:43sharpeoh. yep.
07:44:07earHertzwas that horse in here asgain?
07:44:16sharpeindeed
07:44:21scorche`awww
07:44:37earHertzfurries are weird
07:44:40*Paul_The_Nerd wonders if we need an equine.lang file.
07:44:48earHertzlol
07:44:50scorche`uh...no
07:44:52sharpePaul_The_Nerd: it can be the joke one.
07:45:07earHertzGiddyap and Neigh?
07:45:24Paul_The_NerdI prefer Bork Bork for joke languages
07:45:37earHertzbork bork is old old
07:45:38scorche`hehe
07:45:44scorche`but good
07:45:49sharpesanskrit.
07:45:54earHertzeels in my hovercraft is better
07:46:05Paul_The_NerdBork Bork may well be old, but Google is available in it, as well as I believe Guildwars.
07:47:05scorche`earHertz: you should have seen my private conversation with "it"
07:47:15earHertzi wonder how long she's been pretending to be a horsdse? is that something that takes practice?
07:47:34scorche`<CreativePony> when i'm stressed for too long i just lose the strength to keep being fake, which leaves me unable to talk both online and off, for hours, and makes using my fingers hard, which rules out a lot of stuff too
07:47:34scorche`<CreativePony> I'm a horse trying to pretend to be a human.. its hard
07:47:34scorche`<CreativePony> I'm proud that I've come this far
07:47:40earHertzscorche`: you were trying to get her to let you "ride": her?
07:47:50scorche`earHertz: as a joke...
07:47:50sharpehahah
07:47:53*Paul_The_Nerd rolls his eyes
07:48:03*earHertz isn't sure which one of you is more dewperate
07:48:36scorche`give me a site akin to pastebin that isnt sucking atm and i will copy it over
07:48:55earHertzno, really, that's ok
07:49:07scorche`but it is funny =(
07:49:33earHertzso is geirge buash, but I dont want to see him either
07:49:40scorche`she was trying to get freenode to ban me on the basis of religious discrimination
07:49:51earHertzscorche`: you're a jew?
07:50:00scorche`surprised she didnt go after the racial bit
07:50:05scorche`half, yes
07:50:09scorche`your point?
07:50:21earHertzthta's why sje wants you banned?
07:50:51JdGordonwtf?
07:50:51scorche`<CreativePony> I think I should be able to have you removed on religious discrimination grounds, I'm reading the freenode policy now..
07:50:51scorche`<CreativePony> which 'may result in users being barred from the network'
07:50:51scorche`<scorche`> uh...that is nice
07:50:51DBUGEnqueued KICK scorche`
07:50:51scorche`<scorche`> however, therianthropy is not a religion
07:51:42earHertzI don'ty think she should be able to ban you for being a jew
07:52:18Paul_The_NerdHow can you be half Jewish? Isn't it passed on by the mother's side? Sorta one of those are/aren't things?
07:52:22CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
07:52:22*JdGordon stops pretending to be nice to creativePony because of above msgs..
07:52:40JdGordonPaul_The_Nerd: yes and no...
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07:52:54Paul_The_NerdWell, as a religion.
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07:53:11scorche`yes it is one of the are/arent things
07:53:26fatAssKartmanscorche`: can I call you Kyl?
07:53:32scorche`however, it is if you are part jewish at all, you are considered full jewish
07:53:37scorche`hehe
07:53:54fatAssKartmanscorche`: give me your bag of Jew gold, kyl!
07:53:59JdGordonscorche`: not nescacerily...
07:54:18*scorche` mopes on his way to the oven
07:54:23JdGordoncan we change the subject please? id hate to have to give up on rockbox because your all idiots..
07:54:31scorche`JdGordon: well, i am being vague...
07:54:50fatAssKartmanJdGordon: we're just having alaugh, don't be so thin-skinned
07:54:54*scorche` points at sharpe
07:55:02sharpewhat?
07:55:17scorche`fatAssKartman: well, the point is...this is #rockbox, so i can understand it
07:55:24JdGordonfatAssKartman: there is a diff between having a laugh and just being an ignorant biggotted prick
07:55:39fatAssKartmannobody lynching asnyone
07:55:46scorche`>_>
07:55:47JdGordon..yet..
07:56:09fatAssKartmani don't think it's imminent
07:56:13sharpei'd like to take the moment to point out that in each of our respective countries, lynching is illegal.
07:56:54Paul_The_NerdI'd like to point out that in my state there's always a distinct possibility it will not remain so.
07:57:04fatAssKartmanPaul_The_Nerd: where?
07:57:06sharpelove the texas.
07:57:08Paul_The_NerdTexas
07:57:25fatAssKartmanoh, yeah
07:57:38fatAssKartmanyou hear that preacher at Ken Lay's funeral?
07:57:50Paul_The_NerdNope.
07:57:51fatAssKartmanhe compared Ken Lay to James Byrd
07:58:14Paul_The_NerdWha?
07:58:40fatAssKartmanJames Byrd, the black guy who got dragged to death behind a truclk
07:58:46Paul_The_NerdYeah
07:58:55Paul_The_NerdI was just curious what on Earth the comparison was.
07:59:05fatAssKartmanthe preacher said the prosecution of ken Lay for enron was teh sdame as dragging Byrd
07:59:27fatAssKartmanpracher from Texas, of course
07:59:54Paul_The_NerdI'm sorry, but I have absolutely zero sympathy for him.
07:59:56sharpei get spam email in spanish now.
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08:00:04fatAssKartmanPaul_The_Nerd: Byrd or Lay?
08:00:09Paul_The_NerdLay
08:00:22scorche`oh yeah...for the full private convo (and some laughs), see: http://pastebin.com/749173
08:00:40JdGordonso much for private then :D
08:01:00fatAssKartmanJdGordon: it's a conversation ABOUT privates
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08:01:47JdGordonloading....
08:02:02fatAssKartmanscorche`: that's sick!
08:02:07scorche`>_>
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08:02:20fatAssKartmanDON'T LOAD THAT PAGE
08:02:27scorche...
08:02:28CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
08:02:28*Paul_The_Nerd wasn't planning on it.
08:02:34fatAssKartmanthat is so wrong
08:02:42*Paul_The_Nerd is of the opinion private conversations should stay private unless both parties agree.
08:02:44scorcheit is pastebin...what could it be?...ascii porn?
08:03:06fatAssKartmanscorche: that kinda crap is iollegall where I live
08:03:26saratogai'm having trouble building the uisimulator since i switched to ubuntu. basically i get a pile of undefined variables in lcd-bitmap when i make
08:03:27*scorche is of the opinion that private conversations should stay private if both parties agree
08:03:37saratogawhat am i doing wrong
08:03:51fatAssKartmansaratoga: you've targette d the sim, right?
08:04:09scorcheer...that didnt come out right...as in both parties agree to keep it private =)
08:04:13saratogayeah
08:04:26saratogaIpod 3g > Sim > SDL
08:04:35saratogafirst couple files compile fine
08:04:39fatAssKartmanI just didn't like seein gteh ascii bestilaity porn
08:04:50scorchefatAssKartman: seriously...
08:05:08JdGordonsaratoga: same, cept i cant get libsdl to install so im not even as far as u
08:05:58saratogaheh figured out sdl 5 minutes ago
08:06:18saratogaused synaptic to install libsdl-dev
08:06:19JdGordonhowd u do it? tis pissing me of with dependancies
08:06:31saratogathat pulled in 30 MB of dependencies, and suddenly it works
08:06:36saratogamagic
08:06:44saratogawell, at least configure finishes
08:06:48saratogamake is still a loss
08:07:01JdGordonlibsdl1.2-dev: Depends: libartsc0-dev but it is not going to be installed
08:07:01saratogathe odd thing is all of this worked flawlessly in cygwin
08:07:01JdGordonE: Broken packages
08:07:28saratogawhat distro are you running?
08:07:34JdGordonubunutu 6.06
08:07:38saratogaodd
08:07:40saratogasame here
08:08:47saratogaother then libsdl I think the only thing i've installed lately was VLC
08:09:07saratogamaybe that pulled some sdl stuff?
08:11:27JdGordonsuch crap...
08:11:29JdGordonlibglib2.0-dev: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
08:11:42JdGordonhow do u get round that?
08:15:11fatAssKartmanoh sweet, the teddy bear can hold baloons too
08:18:47scorcheBagder: (if you happen to be here/read the logs), we did not completely eradicate the bug where the file browser screwed up (it was fixed for it when wrapping backwards)...however, it produces the same effect (appearing below the visible area) if you have selected the last entry and hit menu and then return from the menu
08:21:54saratogaoh god damn it
08:22:01saratogaits a problem with the 3G CVS
08:22:10JdGordonkill it!
08:22:23saratogaevidently something broke it and I'm the only one who gives a shit about the 3G
08:23:02saratogai guess i'll make do with the 4G for now
08:23:59Paul_The_NerdThere are some who care about 3G support, but don't have any means of testing what they do.
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08:28:36saratogayeah
08:28:49saratogai wish that guy who asked about working on the 3G would come back
08:30:16Jungti1234hi
08:30:19saratogahow does the UI sim work on laptops
08:30:23saratogai don't have a numpad
08:30:53scorchesaratoga: function button to get to the numpad?
08:30:56scorche(guessing)
08:31:10saratogaoh
08:31:11saratogathank you
08:31:17saratogai didn't even know my laptop could do that
08:31:28scorcheoh wait
08:31:34scorchethey usually have a numlock button
08:31:36JdGordonmidkay: still around?
08:31:42midkayyeah, sorta.
08:31:44scorchethat locks you into the numpad
08:31:51scorchenot the function button...
08:32:00JdGordoncan u do some commits while sweden is still in bed?
08:32:07midkaynot really
08:32:11midkayvmware's messed up.
08:32:17JdGordonok
08:32:29Paul_The_Nerdsaratoga: You usually need Fn and possibly Numlock as well.
08:32:47*scorche coughs
08:33:03Paul_The_Nerdscorche: Bah, I'm distracted.
08:33:10scorche=)
08:36:05sharpei'm bored.
08:38:19JdGordonsoo many old - probably abandoned - patches/bugs on FS its not funny..
08:38:59JdGordonBg3r: u around?
08:40:05chendo<333
08:40:28JdGordonhttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/2789 <- rekon its safe to close this? at the very least the patch is 7 months out of date, and i tihnk the functionality is there...
08:43:52Sinbiosanyone know how to get mv to overwrite directories?
08:46:50scorcheisnt that -f?
08:46:56scorchecheck the help
08:47:29Sinbios-f tells me "blah blah cannot overwrite directory"
08:47:38Sinbioscp seems to work fine, though
08:47:52scorchetry -i
08:48:18Sinbiosdoesn't i just ask you to confirm even overwrite
08:48:30scorcheyes
08:48:33scorchebut still
08:49:41scorchedistro?
08:50:03Sinbiosdunno
08:50:05Sinbioslemme check
08:50:25Sinbiosdebian, i think
08:50:44Sinbiosbah, whatever
08:50:46Sinbiosi'll just cp and rm
08:51:18scorcheoh wait...
08:51:20scorchedirectories?
08:51:27SlasheriSinbios: try rsync and then remove the original directory
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08:51:41scorchei dont believe that GNU mv doesnt overwrite directories..
08:51:45scorcheer...
08:51:51Sinbiosit doesn't v.v
08:51:52scorcheif you translate that into english...
08:51:53Slasherirsync -av old_dir other_dir
08:52:04SinbiosSlasheri: doesn't cp achieve the same thing
08:52:32Slasherii am not sure. But at least rsync will exactly copy all files that don't exist already in the target directory
08:53:49saratogathis is killing me
08:53:55saratogahow do i get find to search for *.txt
08:54:09saratogafind *.txt . doesn't do what i want it to
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08:54:55Sinbiosulocate?
08:55:18saratogai don't even have that command
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09:04:47Sinbiosmaybe escape char?
09:04:54Sinbios*\.txt
09:04:59saratogatried that
09:05:07saratogai found the file by hand
09:05:21saratogai'll bother my local unix guru tomorrow
09:05:50saratogathough if someone wants to tell me about MAP files tonight, thats cool :)
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09:06:37saratogaoh find . -iname "*.txt"
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09:06:54fatAssKartmanmap file contains the address on each function
09:07:02saratogayeah
09:07:10saratogai'm guessing rockbox.map is the big one?
09:07:21fatAssKartmanyeah
09:07:36fatAssKartmanalso tells you wahat code section a function is in
09:07:53saratogaso if i have a crash i can take the address it reports, dig through rockbox.map and then look up the smaller map files to go to from there?
09:08:25fatAssKartmanjudt dig thrtopugh rockbox map
09:09:01fatAssKartmanf'r instance, I discovered a particular function was returning to the (decimal) address 249820
09:09:20saratogaok let me see if i understand the format correctly
09:09:23fatAssKartmanso I converted that to hex, and looked in map for the fubction at the hishest address lower than that
09:09:29saratoga0x000102a8 0x48 /build/apps/settings.o
09:09:32saratogatext.setbit
09:09:44saratogathat means that function is at 102a8
09:09:54saratogaand occupies x48 bytes
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09:09:59fatAssKartmandepends, there are teo parts of map
09:10:24fatAssKartmaner, three parts
09:10:35fatAssKartmanI think setbit is a global
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09:11:10fatAssKartmanbut whatever it is, yeah, that's where it is
09:11:38fatAssKartman.txt is teh code section
09:12:12saratogawhat are the things labeled .common
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09:12:29fatAssKartmanthey're in that section, whatever it is
09:13:16saratogaibss and icode are in IRAM maybe?
09:13:29fatAssKartmanysah
09:13:36saratogaoh yeah, it says at the top
09:14:00saratogais there some util for reading these things, or do people just step through by hand
09:14:31fatAssKartmanyeah, there is, but I think it's broken for ipods/arm-elf
09:19:13saratogabah my crash happens outside of the DRAM area, so this is going to take some more effort
09:20:15safetydanhrmm... is preglow still active here?
09:21:10saratogadonno, haven't been around in a couple months
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09:22:25veckhey everyone
09:23:38veckhmm.. when I'm recording on Rockbox is there a way to set the backlight to be always on?
09:26:29fatAssKartman there
09:26:35fatAssKartmans a backlight always on setting
09:27:02veckjust for the recording screen? I've looked for it..?
09:27:07fatAssKartmanno
09:27:20veckjust in general then
09:27:25fatAssKartmanyah
09:28:12veckI'm in general settings.. can't see it
09:28:32fatAssKartmangot me
09:29:04veckhmm.. I'm using a H300 iriver and I tried to get the manual for it but the link's down
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09:36:08sharpehmm..
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09:51:59jhMikeSHi. Is there a good syntax highlighting text edit for window that saves files with UNIX line feeds?
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09:55:28jhMikeSI've looked and haven't found much of anything. I don't want to install a hundred programs to figure it out so any help would be appreciated.
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10:02:11saratogatextpad?
10:02:21saratogai think it does unix line feeds anyway
10:02:43saratogatheres a "unix file format" option when you save as
10:03:08jhMikeSIt has the syntax highlighting (which I find very helpful) ?
10:03:20midkayyes, i haven
10:03:23saratogayeah textpad supports everything
10:03:28midkayi haven't found anything as good as textpad for editing..
10:03:42jhMikeSSweet. I'll give it looksee.
10:03:44saratogagoto preference > new document class
10:03:48saratogaand add one for *.c
10:04:02saratogawhats the closest thing to textpad on linux?
10:04:03saratogascite?
10:04:13midkayscite?
10:04:29jhMikeSsaratoga: Got me.
10:04:34jhMikeS:)
10:04:53saratogahttp://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html
10:04:59midkay*shrugs*
10:05:00saratogai like it, but its still not quite like textpad
10:05:05midkayi've only used kwrite and kate on linux.
10:05:16midkaynice-ish but not as good as textpad..
10:05:25saratogaeither of them comparable to textpad?
10:05:34midkaythey're both quite similar..
10:05:38midkayi mean to each other.
10:05:56midkayand rather similar to textpad, iirc. can be configured majorly i think so you can get pretty similar behavior.
10:06:18midkayi can only recall some trouble with the auto indentation stuff which was different from textpad's style.
10:06:44jhMikeSTextpad is easy to register?
10:07:06saratogaoh
10:07:19saratogai've always just got it through work or school
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10:07:22saratogai suppose it is shareware
10:07:26midkayregister? i don't think you have to..
10:08:09saratogawhats a good archive manager for Gnome?
10:08:16saratogafile roller sort of sucks
10:08:23jhMikeSIt says "try before you buy" but it does mention timeouts or nagging
10:08:31jhMikeSdoesn't mention...
10:08:37midkayi don't think i ever got a timeout..
10:09:00midkaymaybe it will ask you to register on startup after a month or something. hm.
10:09:23jhMikeSwhat version?
10:09:35midkaydunno.. the latest.
10:09:43jhMikeSok
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10:14:51jhMikeSThat will work. Thanks.
10:14:58jhMikeSHow do you change colors?
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10:16:43jhMikeSNever mind. Fount it.
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10:30:20linuxstb_saratoga: What problem are you having with the 3G port?
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12:03:37LandusAwesome.
12:03:56LandusI managed over 16 hours on my h3x0.
12:04:16LandusIs there anywhere that I should put my battery_bench.txe file?
12:04:18LandusOn the net?
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12:05:41JdGordonLandus: u can put your final runtime on the wiki
12:05:52LandusFinal runtime?
12:06:04JdGordonthe 16hrs.. bo need for the howle file
12:06:24Slasheriargh, i would like to rewrite the whole playback engine from scratch and design the api so that it would be easy to unique the hardware engine.. Current software engine has become a way too buggy.. but that requires quite amount of time :/
12:06:44Slasheri*unify
12:09:06JdGordonso nu? whats the problem? get to it :D
12:10:55Slasherianyway it would be quite necessary to redesign the engine if we ever would like to unify the two engines
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12:23:50bluebrotherhas someone objections against me closing this? I think it's mostly what tagcache does. http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/949
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12:38:15LandusDoes anyone one know how to import a battery_bench log into an OpenOffice spreadsheet?
12:39:27_FireFly_Landus: are the values in the battery_bench ',' oder ';' serperated ?
12:39:34bluebrotherLandus, can't you just open it with Calc and set the file type to "csv"?
12:39:42LandusWindows calculator?
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12:39:58_FireFly_Landus: no oocalc ;)
12:40:03LandusAh.
12:40:18LandusIt's opening.
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12:41:39LandusHow do I set the file type to csv?
12:42:47LandusAh. Nevermind.
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14:20:59tictrichi folks, I only bought an ipod when I found out I could turn it into a rockpod and am very happy with it so far
14:21:29tictricnow can I use the line in feature of that video ipod with rockbox?
14:21:41Ribsthere's a line in?
14:21:55RibsI only see a socket for headphones
14:22:05tictricthat's what I read
14:22:41PaulJamafaik the headphone socket can be used as line in, but this finctionality is not yet available in rockbox
14:22:43tictricyou can use the line out of line in as well
14:24:04tictricthen I'm gonna use the ipod firmware for that, thanks
14:25:14PaulJami think with ipodlinux you can use the line-in, but i'm not sure.
14:25:54tictricPaulJam: thank you, but I think thats too much trouble for me :-)
14:26:40tictricI just hoped it would work 'cause I haven't even used to orig firmware once
14:26:53tictricI only got ogg files
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14:43:17Kohlrabiyou bought an iPod before knowing it'd support your vorbisfiles?
14:43:18Kohlrabi:o
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14:44:49apo`Kohlrabi: He bought it after learning that he can put rockbox on it
14:44:56apo`[14:20:59] <tictric> hi folks, I only bought an ipod when I found out I could turn it into a rockpod and am very happy with it so far
14:45:00Kohlrabiah
14:45:20KohlrabiI read it the other way round
14:45:21Kohlrabi:\
14:45:24apo`^^
14:45:31apo`Bah
14:45:39apo`Where'd the chocolate on my fingers come from :/
14:45:43apo`*wipes his keyboard clean*
14:45:43Kohlrabi"I just bought an iPod when I found out [...]"
14:45:59apo`Hm...
14:46:03tictricI always found that ipod an awesome piece of hardware but didn't want to turn my music into mp3
14:46:03apo`Whatever :P
14:46:20apo`I mainly have mp3s
14:46:24TeaSeaLancsI found ipod hardware a bit lacking myself.
14:46:26apo`Lately I started ripping as ogg
14:46:29TeaSeaLancsEspecially the current G5s
14:46:35TeaSeaLancsThe build quality's a bit below par :P
14:46:43KohlrabiI'm perfectly happy with the iRiver H120
14:46:47Kohlrabirobust
14:46:53TeaSeaLancsI had the H320
14:46:54Kohlrabiand functional
14:46:54midkayTeaSeaLancs, how is it below par?
14:46:57TeaSeaLancsThen changed to an X5 when that broke.
14:47:05Kohlrabiugh
14:47:07KohlrabiWell
14:47:12KohlrabiHow did it break? :\
14:47:14TeaSeaLancsmidkay: It just feels like the components are a bit plasticky and shoddily made.
14:47:17TeaSeaLancsKohlrabi: HD went.
14:47:31midkay"the components".. hm..
14:47:42TeaSeaLancsmidkay: Mainly the cover and scroll wheel.
14:47:42KohlrabiI even dropped the player from like 1.50m several times (at parties people tripping over cables >:()
14:47:47KohlrabiWhile running
14:47:52KohlrabiStill everything OK ;)
14:47:53PaulJama new hd would have been propably cheaper than an x5
14:47:54midkaywonder what you mean by that, mine has a very solid feel to it, it doesn't really have "components", it's just kind of a box with some weight to it..
14:47:58Genre9mp3I bought a rockboxable DAP because of Rockbox as well, but my choice was a H340
14:48:05Kohlrabiyep
14:48:13KohlrabiI chose H120 because of rockbox
14:48:15TeaSeaLancsPaulJam: Not when I got a full refund from Amazon for my H320
14:48:19midkayjust wondering, how can the scroll wheel "feel plasticky and poorly made"? it doesn't move at all...
14:48:30TeaSeaLancsmidkay: It's just the feel of it really.
14:48:38TeaSeaLancsCompared to other generation ipods i've used.
14:48:47midkay.. it has a smooth surface on purpose, so you can move your finger across it easily.
14:49:03TeaSeaLancsI'm not talking about the smooth surface man.
14:49:18midkaythen what about it? you can't "feel" anything else except its surface.
14:49:24tictricMy only complain now is that Amarok doesn't work perfectly with my rockpod but it's bearable
14:49:27TeaSeaLancsI can't really explain it, it just feels a bit fragile when you press it.
14:49:37Kohlrabi:p
14:49:42Genre9mp3Well, either way the feel is a quite subjective thing, you like it or not... simple as that
14:50:16midkayTeaSeaLancs, and the "cover" - presuming you mean the plastic front - how does that feel plasticky? you can't move or even press it either.
14:50:52Kohlrabicover is the surface of the unit, I presume
14:51:00midkaythat's what i said.
14:51:03Kohlrabiah
14:51:09TeaSeaLancsmidkay: Seriously man, if you just press it ever so slightly, it just feels... well, bad.
14:51:16Kohlrabifront is just the ... front in my understanding
14:51:19TeaSeaLancsOh, and is a scratch magnet.
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14:51:27*midkay presses it and feels nothing but hardness..
14:51:34TeaSeaLancsBut that's just me pissing on the ipod's cover from my X5's nice metal cover really.
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14:52:03midkaybecause we all press the covers to make sure it's very solid.
14:52:12TeaSeaLancsmidkay: Hell I do.
14:52:41midkayinteresting indeed.. did you manage to press the iPod's hard enough to deform the plastic?
14:52:52TeaSeaLancsmidkay: Yeah
14:52:56TeaSeaLancsI'm actually Clark Kent.
14:52:58TeaSeaLancs:)
14:53:03midkay:o
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14:59:18tictricI thought those devices where for listening to music and not for deforming them
14:59:28tictricclay's way cheeper, or wax
14:59:39tictricand easier to bend too
14:59:49midkayno pleasing some people!
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15:08:27CreativePonyIs it possible to have an audio book (which is a folder containing ogg vorbis chapters), listen to some of it, go play other music, then come back and have it resume where it was in whatever chapter it was playing?
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15:09:53PaulJamCreativePony: this should be possible if you create a bookmark (at least this is how i think bookmarks work).
15:10:31CreativePonyokie!
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15:49:34apo`It's done!! All albumnames as .mp3!!
15:49:34apo`:D
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15:50:00S0apI couldn't stand to listen to my own voice.
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15:50:47apo`True
15:50:53apo`But it's better than MS-fucking-Sam
15:51:08S0apwe need to find a woman with a sexy English accent
15:51:36apo`Who also speaks Swedish, Finnish, German, Spanish and Japanese.
15:51:49apo`Then have her speak alllll of my album and artist names
15:52:10apo`Oh, and Russian.
15:52:24apo`... and French
15:52:26apo`I think that's it
15:52:49S0apdo you speak those languages better than our hypothetical woman?
15:53:26apo`German: Yes
15:53:29apo`Japanese: Perhaps
15:53:39apo`Spanish... well, I could give it a try
15:53:42apo`Rest: proly no
15:53:44apo`prolly*
15:55:58*apo` pokes S0ap
15:57:14apo`~_~ My voice sounds so weird
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16:04:27CreativePonyI have an obnoxious australian accent.. will that do?
16:07:08S0apneigh
16:08:00*CreativePony whinny's playfully!
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16:09:25theprodukkthi
16:09:38theprodukktcan u download the daily builds for the iriver 300
16:09:47theprodukkthttp://download.rockbox.org/daily/h300/rockbox-h300-20060716.zip
16:09:47theprodukkt?
16:09:50S0apin the daily builds page
16:09:56S0apok
16:10:01theprodukkti cant access them
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16:11:47S0apyea, I can't get it either
16:11:52PaulJami can't download it too, but the cvs bilds work
16:12:00PaulJambuilds
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16:13:38theprodukkti wanted a stable build :) mine hangs up sometimes :(
16:14:20PaulJamthere were no commits today, so cvs should be the same as daily
16:14:41theprodukktthe most recent?
16:14:49PaulJambtw, why should dailys be more stable than cvs builds?
16:15:29apo`[16:04:27] <CreativePony> I have an obnoxious australian accent.. will that do? < If your voice is sexy and female... :P
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16:16:22theprodukktthought the cvs had the newest changes, and maybe even bugs in that changes
16:17:42PaulJamthe daily can have bugs too (if someone commits something that introduces a bug shortly before the daily gets build)
16:18:36theprodukktthats true
16:18:54PaulJamin this case the cvs build would be more stable if a bugfix was committed in the meantime.
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16:19:20theprodukktright
16:19:30theprodukktwhats the daily for then?
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16:28:09Jungti1234oops..
16:28:37Jungti1234Wrong translation...
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16:36:47BigMacis their a way to make files not show up on the home page on an ipod 5g
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16:36:49BigMac?
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16:41:20S0aphome page? Do you mean the root directory?
16:42:48BigMacyes
16:42:57BigMaci couldn't think of the word.
16:43:09S0apwhat files do you not want to see?
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16:43:36BigMacumm. let me check
16:44:59BigMac.rockbox, calendars, contacts, games, ipod_control, notes, rockbox.ipod
16:45:54S0apcalendars, contacts, ipod_control, notes are all folders used by the Apple firmware. If you don't need them, you can delete them.
16:46:58BigMacno, I can't delete ipod_control, because i occasionally still use apple firmware. I can't just hide them?
16:47:47Hansmaulwurfno
16:48:18Hansmaulwurfyou could display only music files, but that wouldnt hide the folders
16:48:24Jungti1234How can I use A-B repeat in iPod?
16:48:42BigMacoh ok.
16:49:52Jungti1234we can't download daily build?
16:50:15Hansmaulwurfwhat?
16:51:05Jungti1234http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml
16:51:50PaulJamJungti1234: the cvs builds are still accessible
16:52:11Jungti1234ahh?
16:52:11Jungti1234http://www.rockbox.org/daily/h300/rockbox-h300-20060715.zip
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16:52:22Jungti1234but font can't download.
16:53:18ledbythereaperhey
16:53:25Jungti1234Can you download font?
16:53:30ledbythereaperI need some help with making the bootloader
16:53:39ledbythereaperipod_fw -g video -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader-video.bin
16:53:53ledbythereaperi get.. fread failed: No error
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16:54:07ledbythereaperi've followed all the other instructions and made all the bins
16:54:33ledbythereaperwait the apple_os.bin is 0 bytes
16:55:56Jungti1234hmm
16:56:53ledbythereaperremade it
16:57:18ledbythereaperi think rockbox > ipodlinux
16:57:27BigMacalright i'm trying to put on some chip8 games. I have them in I:/Chip8. the manual didn't give me much info on how to play them. do i need any plugins? or can i just boot up select the file anhd itll play
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16:58:32ledbythereaperi'm just glad rockbox install doesn't format your ipod
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16:58:47ledbythereapercause my motherboards blown so i can't put anymore music on lol
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17:03:51BigMacalso what is the point of car adapter mode
17:03:58BigMacit does nothing
17:06:44ledbythereaperurm when will they add charging and using it without having to reboot the thing and hope that pressing menu works
17:07:16ledbythereaperalso i think the sites broken
17:07:28HansmaulwurfBigMac: do some research, im 100% sure this question was answered several times in the forum
17:07:54ledbythereaperIs there a mirror for the latest build?
17:08:21ledbythereaperCause I can't get the latest daily build.
17:08:33BigMacok and i don't understand what they are talking about when making the chip8 config files
17:08:43BigMaca 16 bit string
17:08:49PaulJamledbythereaper: try the cvs build, tere seems to be a problem with the dailys
17:09:11BigMacI don't get it. i'm trying to get it so i can play some on my ipod
17:09:12ledbythereaperyeh i shall
17:09:38BigMacbecause as of now, the only one that works is ant which sucks
17:09:53ledbythereaperwhat are you on about bigmac?
17:10:18BigMacchip8 games...
17:10:23ledbythereaperBuild expected to complete around 15:11:31 (in 5mins 47secs)
17:10:27ledbythereaperlies
17:10:38ledbythereaperIt's 16:10 GMT
17:11:57ledbythereaperCVS is confusing me
17:12:55PaulJama cvs build is compiled everytime someone commits something, and Slasheri has just committed something.
17:13:27ledbythereaperi know that
17:13:32ledbythereaperit was just finding the zip lol
17:13:40ledbythereaperbut i found yesterdays build so i'll get that
17:13:49ledbythereaperno i wont
17:15:39S0apBigMac - I have a strong suspicion you won't like /any/ of the Chip8 games.
17:15:59S0apThey (IMHO) are more for us old farts. Nostalgia and all that.
17:16:06BigMacyah there outrageous
17:16:16BigMacthey give halo a run for there money
17:16:44BigMac<sarcasm>amazing truly</sarcasm>
17:18:03BigMacok. I read the faq. it told me to use car adapter mode I must hold menu when I insert the plug. but how do i know it is charging?
17:18:29S0apdoesn't the battery icon progress?
17:18:57BigMacI don't think so. and if it does it moves very slowly...
17:19:12BigMacwait does that work when plugged into a computer?
17:19:19BigMacbecause that is what im using now
17:20:26PaulJamrockbox currently doesn't know if it is plugged into the charger or a computer
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17:21:05ledbythereaperCan anyone link me to an ipod video rockbox zip?
17:22:03Galoisyou can press menu while connecting to the computer in order to charge the ipod while you're using it. The usb icon will light up in the status bar indicating that it's plugged in.
17:22:10PaulJamhttp://www.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo/rockbox.zip (cvs build)
17:22:24BigMacled-i have the zip and if you want, I could send you it over aim.
17:22:26BigMacor not
17:22:43ledbythereapersorry im allergic to aol
17:22:55ledbythereapercheers paul
17:23:20BigMacalright by progressing, do you mean it fills in the open space with a lite grayish white?
17:24:00ledbythereapermy ipod used to charge fine when plugged in
17:24:01S0ap(roughly) what percentage was the battery at?
17:24:41BigMac80-90
17:24:43S0apfor I recall the solid part staying solid, and the blank part repeatedly filling with the gray.
17:25:10BigMacyes that is what it is doing.
17:25:12S0apahh, at that level you won't see the "grayish white" growing.
17:25:35BigMacso that means it is charging.
17:25:46BigMacno it keeps refilling the empty space
17:25:57ledbythereaperare there rockbox forums?
17:26:07BigMacyes
17:26:14ledbythereaperwoot
17:26:19ledbythereapernow to sort iDoom out
17:26:23ledbythereaperand iBoy
17:26:40BigMacyou mean rockdoom and rockboy?
17:26:48BigMachttp://forums.rockbox.org/index.php
17:28:00BigMacahh i can't get into the manualx z
17:32:46ledbythereaperhmm
17:32:59ledbythereaperi'm just patching rockbox for all that julies theme stuff
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17:43:14BigMachow do i make a playlist. i realize its in the manual, but the manual isnt loading for me
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17:47:10Jungti1234hey
17:47:16Jungti1234what is tagexport?
17:47:29Jungti1234Export modifications
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17:52:20Jungti1234?
17:52:23Jungti1234anyone?
17:53:18BigMaci'm not sure. you could try a forum search http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php. or you could search the manual. best of luck
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17:53:47Jungti1234manual?!
17:54:03BigMacgo to rockbox.org
17:54:07Jungti1234'No results found'
17:54:08BigMacclick dailybuild
17:54:18Jungti1234and It don't have manual.
17:54:28loudownload it
17:54:39Jungti1234what?
17:54:39BigMacthen under your model there should have a button that says manual
17:55:18Jungti1234Is it to manual???
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17:55:23louno
17:55:43louthats why BigMac pointed you to go there
17:55:53Jungti1234then why should I download manual?
17:55:53loubecause its NOT what you are looking for
17:56:06lounevermind
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17:58:29Jungti1234hm..
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18:06:51loulooks real to me
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18:08:02BigMacif only i had the absoulute positioning patch
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18:11:18BigMacdo i need to rename .gbc files to .gb?
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18:12:53Nico_PBigMac: i don't think so
18:13:23BigMacok thanks
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19:32:37aromanhello there
19:33:53aromanI've been having difficulties accessing download.rockbox.org so I can't download a snapshot. I'd like not to build the whole thing myself. Any ideas why I can't access the site, or are there any mirrors? thanks
19:35:05Paul_The_NerdHave you tried downloading one of the CVS builds?
19:35:12aromanyes
19:35:20aromanfor example
19:35:25Paul_The_NerdNot the Daily
19:35:26Paul_The_NerdThe CVS
19:35:28aromanwith firefox I try to download http://download.rockbox.org/daily/ipodvideo/rockbox-ipodvideo-20060716.zip
19:35:32Paul_The_NerdThey aren't hosted at download.rockbox.org
19:35:32aromanoh
19:35:43aromanok from where can I get that?
19:35:51Paul_The_NerdClick the CVS builds link, right by the Daily Builds link...
19:36:05aromanthis? http://www.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo/rockbox.zip
19:36:16Paul_The_NerdYes.
19:36:21aromanok thanks
19:40:42Nibblerrockbox works on ipod video?
19:40:51Nibblerwith video supprt and stuff?
19:41:23Paul_The_NerdNo video support.
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20:03:16Mikachubut definitely and stuff
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21:38:02iliah3hello, is download.rockbox.org up?
21:38:20iliah3can't download anything :(
21:38:38Zagorit's currently down due to a power outtage.
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21:38:58iliah3when it's expected to up?
21:39:04Zagorthe power company says power will be back in around an hour
21:39:13iliah3ok, thanks
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22:00:14nlsanyway I have a minor fix that makes .jpeg and .jpe files show up as supported in the file browser as well as .jpg the jpeg viewer already recognise them when jumping to new files.
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22:00:59nlsshould I commit it?
22:03:50aromanrockbox is awesome! :D
22:03:56aromangoing to show it off to friends lol
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22:04:07aromanthanks devs for an awesome alternative OS for my iPod
22:04:09aroman:)
22:06:50linuxstb_nls: Is there a demand for .jpe ?
22:10:39amiconnSlasheri: I see yellow (more than normal)
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22:11:33*amiconn wonders what .jpe should be
22:12:15amiconnI've seen .jpg, .jpeg and .jfif on JPEGs, but no other extensions
22:12:20linuxstb_It appears to be a supported extension within the jpeg viewer for slideshows....
22:12:36linuxstb_It seems odd to me as well.
22:12:42Slasheriamiconn: ah, fixed :)
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22:14:21nlsI think jpe is just cutoff jpeg but the viewer sees them
22:14:57nlsIt would be nice to be consitent. :-)
22:15:09linuxstb_.jpe seems to be used in the real-world: http://www.answers.com/topic/jpe-file
22:15:15MrStaticVoidhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jpeg (see "File extensions")
22:16:13cableis there a mirror for the rockbox downloads? I can't seem to grab the fonts
22:18:16linuxstb_I don't think so.. Hopefully the download server will be back soon though (i.e. in the next hour - if I understand correctly.)
22:19:07nlsso any opinions on a commit it's only 2 lines in viewers.config?
22:19:20cableah, thanks
22:19:38linuxstb_Now that I've read that .jpe is in fact used (albeit rarely), I can't complain...
22:19:49nlsok
22:20:15linuxstb_I think you need to be careful not to fill the filetype array on some targets though.
22:21:55nlshow big is that then?
22:22:37nlsI built player and h300 sims fine...
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22:28:05amiconnI don't think we need to add exotic extensions for file formats to viewers.config. There's always the option to use "Open with..."
22:28:11rolandwebhello, an ipod-nano on usb keeps on rebooting and won't boot in (any) firmware... knows anybody what to do?
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22:30:26rolandweband now (disconnected) it only shows a white screen and won't boot...
22:31:59nlsamiconn, yes but the behaviour is inconsistent when the jpeg viewer opens a file in a slideshow that does not show up as supported in the file browser
22:32:50S0apHow many people did tomless PM on the forums?
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22:35:15linuxstb_rolandweb: Try rebooting (hold MENU+SELECT for a few seconds) then immediately force your ipod into "disk mode" (hold SELECT+PLAY). Then charge.
22:36:58linuxstb_S0ap: I got one... Just deleted it.
22:38:11S0apjust curious.
22:38:34S0apDidn't know if I should feel special ;)
22:39:42nlsok g'night people I'll put it on the tracker instead.
22:40:07linuxstb_nls: Has anyone complained about the current behaviour?
22:40:25nlsnot that I know of...
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23:01:27bluebrotherSlasheri, I just tried searching for a filename using Tagcache and it found the same file 19 time.
23:03:36bluebrotherseems to display the first match for all found entries −− I tried "Dido" and found one file ~50 time. As I have some albums of Dido on my player this could be the count of Dido tracks
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23:21:30bluebrotherstrangely I can't reproduce it with the simulator. Maybe I should rebuild the complete tagcache database ...
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23:42:51cariniI'm getting "region IRAM is full" when trying to compile a logf build for H120. Anyone know how to work around that?
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23:49:28linuxstb_carini: Which part of Rockbox is giving the error?
23:50:06carinilinuxstb_: LD rockbox.elf
23:50:16linuxstb_Have you applied any patches?
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