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#rockbox log for 2006-10-07

00:00:24craigshihit working now, bye bye!
00:00:41 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3002.gwdg.de)
00:00:58*nls always wondered why you need to use the exact same capitalization as the toic name in the Go thing
00:01:07Paul_The_NerdIsn't it like... the latter form of URL is more compatible across browsers or utilities or something, but isn't the default because it depends on the server being able to generate the URLs?
00:01:28 Quit craigshih ("CGI:IRC")
00:01:35 Join pagefault [0] (i=pagefaul@pdpc/supporter/active/pagefault)
00:01:43Paul_The_Nerdnls: Because Wiki software allows for the possibility that the capitalized form of a name actually refers to a different thing than the lowercase. This can be useful when documenting many types o things.
00:02:19nlsbut it's stupid! :-P
00:02:39Paul_The_NerdStupid unless you need it, then very handy.
00:06:02SoapStupid because you've been raised on Windows are are used to Case Aware, but not Case Sensitive.
00:06:38amiconnMost webservers are case sensitive
00:07:04amiconn(that is, all those which are running on *nix-linke systems)
00:07:14amiconns/linke/like/
00:09:32*Paul_The_Nerd waits to see whats going to happen to the PluginDoom page.
00:11:56scorcheheh...
00:11:59PaulJam_Paul_The_Nerd: I think he'll add some addons (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6877.0)
00:12:44scorchehe edited his post and added more...
00:12:49Bagderwow, _less_ bug reports this week than last week
00:13:05Bagder151 => 147
00:13:06*scorche growls and joins the stakeout with Paul_The_Nerd
00:14:48scorchePaul_The_Nerd: is it possible (and something that should be done) to make it so that people cannot edit their posts once a topic has been locked?
00:14:54preglowboothill!
00:15:36Paul_The_Nerdscorche: As far as I know, no, the only way to do that at the moment is to remove the "edit own posts" ability, which seems like a bad idea.
00:15:46scorcheyeah
00:16:08Paul_The_NerdI like my solution though.
00:16:24scorchei just dont appreciate the fact that he edited his post and added more after we posted and locked the topic
00:16:29scorchewhich?
00:16:36Paul_The_NerdMy theory is that in the case that a thread deserves to be locked, once the person it was locked on behalf of has clearly gotten the message, if that thread qualifies as clutter it may then be removed.
00:17:11scorchei like that solution also...
00:17:43 Quit ender` (" An eye for an eye only leads to more blindness. -- Margaret Atwood")
00:17:45scorchesadly, he got the message, but didnt "get the message"
00:17:59 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
00:18:02Paul_The_NerdI apply that fairly often to the "New Ports" forum.
00:18:07 Nick PaulJam_ is now known as PaulJam (i=Paul@vpn-3002.gwdg.de)
00:18:08Paul_The_NerdAnd the "Unsupported Builds"
00:18:32amiconnHrmph!
00:18:33scorcheand i dont have those powers, so i am please to hear that you do do that
00:18:36scorche=P
00:18:53amiconnThis splash() is really buggy! (But the crash is yet different from my second suspicion)
00:18:54scorchehehe <3 saratoga
00:19:10Paul_The_NerdThat post was epic, yes.
00:20:35 Quit nls (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-")
00:21:05*scorche doesnt appreciate the "ad"
00:21:13*amiconn wonders whether lamed ever tests his changes thoroughly before committing :\
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00:21:38Bloody_Sorcerer*sigh*
00:21:38Paul_The_Nerdamiconn: Is it an extremely blatant bug?
00:22:20Bloody_Sorcererhow can i blindly navigate through menus to turn on speak directories/menus
00:22:23Bloody_Sorcerer:x
00:22:32 Quit lee-qid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com")
00:22:41Paul_The_NerdI thought menu speaking was enabled by default.
00:22:49Bloody_Sorcereri think mine is disabled
00:22:49amiconnThere are at least 2 bugs, and a deficiency it inherited from the code I pointed him to - but when I did that, I added that there is a problem that should be fixed for a general-use function like splash()
00:22:56Bloody_Sorcererbecause i disabled it back when i had a screen for no good reason
00:23:07Paul_The_NerdBloody_Sorcerer: So reset your settings.
00:23:14Bloody_Sorcererok
00:23:15Bloody_Sorcererhow?
00:23:20Paul_The_NerdWhat player do you have?
00:23:23Bloody_SorcererX5
00:23:31Paul_The_NerdI'm not 100% sure for that one.
00:23:34Paul_The_NerdThere's a record button right?
00:23:37amiconnOne of the bugs only affects the player, as there the output functions don't do clipping. This is the crash bug, and should be obvious
00:23:45Bloody_Sorcereryeah
00:24:07amiconnThe second bug is that the last line doesn't get centered if it is the last line due to a splash string too long for the display
00:24:17Paul_The_NerdBloody_Sorcerer: Okay, turn on the power, then hold down record until it boots. I think that will clear the settings.
00:24:27amiconnInstead, the last line _starts_ at the (horizontal) centre
00:24:31Bloody_Sorcererk
00:24:55Paul_The_Nerdamiconn: It does seem like both of those would be obvious, though with the player one will that one show up in the sim?
00:25:01Bloody_Sorcereryay
00:25:01amiconnThe deficiency is that the code won't handle multiple consecutive spaces in the string properly
00:25:03Bloody_Sorcererthanks PTN :)
00:25:09Paul_The_NerdBloody_Sorcerer: It worked?
00:25:14Bloody_Sorcereryep
00:25:19Paul_The_NerdGood, good.
00:25:40Bloody_Sorcererexcellent
00:25:45Bloody_Sorcerernow to make it speak directories
00:25:56Paul_The_NerdBut now you can navigate the menus to the one that lets you do that.
00:26:05Bloody_Sorcererexactly
00:26:43amiconnPaul_The_Nerd: Probably not, but it's a classical off-by-one thing
00:26:49SoapI had an idea on how to test if the ipod was outputing Line-Out at 0dB properly, and I wanted to run my idea across someone who would know.
00:27:40Bloody_Sorcerernow to make a bunch of mp3s of all these directories :)
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00:27:48SoapActually, nevermind, a much simpler test just occured to me, one which isn't nearly as complicated as the test I was going to perform (as elegant as the test would have been) so I guess no need.
00:27:56amiconnOh, and there's a 3rd bug, also only affecting the player
00:28:24amiconnSince the addition of unicode, string lengths _for display_ must be measured with utf8length() instead of strlen()
00:31:20ethan12hi everybody
00:34:06ethan12can anyone recommend some good video clips on youtube.com? I like Guns 'n' Roses and Aerosmith.
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00:35:12PaulJamdoesn't youtube have a search function?
00:35:39ethan12:-) yes it has, but I have nor more idea, what to search for...
00:36:02PaulJamand what has this to do with rockbox?
00:36:50ethan12nothing, maybe someone is interesed and can give me some advise
00:37:06preglowahh, a nice bug containing all the reasons for why we should drop player from cv s:>
00:40:59amiconnImho the opposite is true
00:41:17amiconnIt showed several bugs in a general-use function
00:41:33amiconnOnly the utf8length() thing is purely player specific
00:41:51amiconn...because bitmap targets use lcd_getstringsize()
00:52:24preglowdoes anyone know why aac support hasn't been commited to ffmpeg yet?
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00:55:42Paul_The_NerdIs it done?
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01:07:17Bloody_Sorcererla de da....
01:07:27Bloody_Sorcerergo voicebox go
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01:16:52BronYAurStompHello?
01:17:16SoapHello ZeppelinFan
01:17:19*scorche hangs the phone back up
01:17:37Soapthose 900 numbers do get expensive scorche.
01:17:50scorchei didnt dial it!
01:17:52scorchei swear!
01:18:58scorchePaul_The_Nerd: heh...see PluginDoom recently?
01:19:02Paul_The_NerdYeah
01:19:04Paul_The_NerdI'm tempted to delete those.
01:19:17scorchei am curious about the (all are legal) part
01:19:37Paul_The_NerdThey're legal in the context of "They arent commercial" but many of them are based on copyright works.
01:19:45scorcheexactly
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01:20:24Paul_The_NerdFox has already taken action against the distribution of Doom wads (in the distant past) and Simpsons is rather clearly a Fox property
01:20:38SoapAnd how long do rapidshare links last?
01:20:41Paul_The_NerdI'm also not happy with links to rapidshare.de hosted files, as those disappear if nobody accesses them for 30 days.
01:20:46scorcheaye
01:20:48Soapjynx
01:20:53Paul_The_NerdThey last forever if the creator has a premium account though
01:20:55scorchewell, if you arent going to delete them, i will
01:20:59Paul_The_NerdKnock yourself out
01:21:13Soapscorche likes seeing his name at the bottom of pages. ;)
01:21:18scorchei do ;)
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01:22:12Paul_The_NerdAnd add to the note: WADs that should not be direct linked include any containing characters, artwork, sounds, or music that are copyright someone who has not given explicit permission to distribute. All links should be to a site where the unencumbered WADs are permanently hosted.
01:23:48Bloody_Sorcereryay
01:23:49***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
01:23:58Bloody_Sorcereri can now once again fully use my x5 despite its mutilated screen!
01:25:46preglowPaul_The_Nerd: if not done, i think it's functional
01:26:20Paul_The_Nerdpreglow: Hm, disappointing that it's not checked in yet. Is there some page tracking progress or anything, or a patch in some form of tracker somewhere?
01:32:04preglowPaul_The_Nerd: it's in some svn somewhere. there used to be correspondence about it on the ffmpeg soc mailing list, but i can't find that anymore
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01:33:01Paul_The_Nerdpreglow: It's not listed here any more, which is why I was wondering about it: http://code.google.com/soc/ffmpeg/about.html
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01:42:29BronYAurStompipodpatcher just won't recognize my ipod 5g (serial number != 5.5g) :(
01:42:41Paul_The_NerdBronYAurStomp: Running firmware 1.2?
01:42:46BronYAurStompErro reading from disk: The parameter is incorrect.
01:42:54BronYAurStompYes, firmware 1.2
01:43:02Paul_The_NerdBronYAurStomp: Did you "upgrade" to that, or have you done a restore?
01:43:56BronYAurStompNeither, it came with 1.2 firmware, I got it Monday. But the serial number doesn't match any of apple's given 5.5g serial nos
01:44:39Paul_The_NerdEvidence suggests that a clean install of 1.2 ("restore") which is probably identical to a factory install, leaves your iPod with the 2048 sized sectors.
01:44:56Paul_The_NerdFrom a software perspective, you're in the same boat as 5.5 owners, probably
01:44:58BronYAurStompWhich is good(?)
01:45:01Paul_The_NerdIt is bad.
01:45:06BronYAurStompDamn.
01:46:23Paul_The_NerdIf you can find an old version of the iPod updater, you may be able to reformat your iPod, and then use it to restore to a usable state
01:46:34Paul_The_NerdI can't guarantee that will work, though
01:46:50Paul_The_NerdI'm not really sure where the problem exists at.
01:47:11pagefaulthow odd
01:47:17pagefaultmy h10 doesn't like this firmware very much
01:47:21pagefaultbetter try latest cvs
01:47:35BronYAurStompYou say from a software perspective, "clean install" of 1.2 == 5.5g?
01:47:53pagefaultkeeps randomly locking up
01:49:13Paul_The_NerdBronYAurStomp: Not definitely, as I don't think anyone's investigated it much yet, but it seems to at least result in that first hurdle, the differently sized sectors.
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01:50:27ForgottenMemoryK quick question i have an iPod 5G and i want to play all my music at once on rockbox
01:50:29ForgottenMemoryhow do i do that
01:50:40BronYAurStomptag cache?
01:50:45Paul_The_NerdInsert the folder that all your music is in into a playlist.
01:50:55ForgottenMemoryeh?
01:51:08scorcheor be in the root and go to create playlist
01:51:08PaulJamor use the create playlist option in the root folder
01:51:15scorche;)
01:51:20Paul_The_NerdThere are many ways
01:51:37Paul_The_NerdThe manual can help if you don't know how to do any of the things we've said
01:52:31ForgottenMemoryk one thing its not in playlist catalog
01:52:52*Paul_The_Nerd notes that none of us said anything about "playlist catalog"
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01:53:23ForgottenMemorywell sorry im a noob at making playlist but can u at least help me with this one thing
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01:53:34scorchewe did
01:53:46Paul_The_NerdWe told you 3 possible ways to do what you want.
01:53:58scorche2 actually
01:53:58Paul_The_NerdThey're all just invokations of basic functions of Rockbox, which are covered fairly well in the manual
01:54:07Paul_The_Nerdscorche: I think "TagCache" qualifies too.
01:54:07ForgottenMemoryk i dont understand put the folder of all my music into a playlist
01:54:30scorcheah...i wouldnt call that "at once" though
01:54:31Soapis all your music in folders branching off of one?
01:54:33Paul_The_NerdForgottenMemory: The key word there was "insert". It's actually important. If you read about the Insert function for playlists in the manual, maybe you'll figure it out. ;)
01:54:36ForgottenMemorybecause my songs are in different folders by artists
01:54:49BronYAurStompthat would be interesting to actually play all your songs literally at once.
01:54:53Paul_The_Nerdscorche: Well, TagCache has an "All Songs" option. If you play one of the songs in that vfolder, you get all your music at once.
01:54:55scorchethen go the route which PaulJam and i said
01:55:11Soapare all those artist directories sitting in the root directory? Or are they all in a folder named "music" for example?
01:55:14scorchePaul_The_Nerd: ah...
01:55:24ForgottenMemoryyea their on a folder name music
01:55:30ForgottenMemorythen organized by artist
01:55:58Paul_The_NerdThen you could insert that folder, named "Music", into a playlist.
01:56:10Paul_The_NerdYou do need to have the Recursively Insert option enabled, though
01:56:37ForgottenMemoryhow do i "insert" it into a playlist is there a folder or wut?
01:57:01Paul_The_NerdIt's in the context menu. Again, I strongly recommend learning the basic functions in the manual
01:57:43luckz(rtfm?)
01:57:46pagefaulthmm
01:57:50pagefaultis it just me or is rockbox.org slow
01:58:07Paul_The_NerdIt does seem slow right now
01:58:23BronYAurStompagreed :(
01:58:41BronYAurStompSo how important is 5.5g support to developers atm?
01:58:46Paul_The_NerdIs the H10 rockbox.target file still rockbox.h10?
01:58:52pagefaultlooks like it's a router that is down
01:59:11ForgottenMemorywheres the tag cache menu? omg im such a noob for asking but where is it?
01:59:16Paul_The_NerdBronYAurStomp: How on Earth do you even rate importance. It's entirely a relative scale.
01:59:26pagefaultoh cool
01:59:28pagefaultit's hosted in sweden
01:59:29pagefaulthehe
01:59:38Paul_The_NerdBronYAurStomp: I don't think any developers even HAVE a 5.5G, so that limits what can be done anyway.
01:59:53BronYAurStompSorry for asking
01:59:54Paul_The_NerdForgottenMemory: What exactly is preventing you from reading the manual?
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02:00:07 Quit CriamosAndy ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )")
02:00:15Paul_The_NerdBronYAurStomp: See the 5.5G thread in the NewPorts forum for at least updates on what's been discovered/done
02:00:22PaulJamwas it always the case that when you write a .cfg file that you return to the browser (or the tacache view) even if you have entered the menu from the WPS?
02:00:26ForgottenMemoryim at the manul
02:00:46BronYAurStompI have/do, thx tho.
02:00:48ForgottenMemoryanyways i found the tag cache
02:01:02pagefaultthere is a 5.5gb?
02:01:03pagefaultwtf
02:01:16Paul_The_Nerdpagefault: 5.5th Gen
02:01:22pagefaultoh
02:01:27pagefaultI don't even know how you would check that
02:02:08SoapForgottenMemory - tagcache is a red herring in this situation. Read about playlists, and inserting folders, and inserting recursively. Not to mention you never said what player you are using, so getting any more indepth would be impossible.
02:04:49ForgottenMemoryvery first message i posted that i had a 5G anyways i think i figured it out
02:06:13Soapahh, that you did. My bad, scrolled off my screen.
02:07:32ForgottenMemoryits ok anyways i got the hang of it now i got another question
02:07:56ForgottenMemoryi have the iPl loader and i want to add doom and rockboy to it possible or no? if possible complicated?
02:09:01PaulJamrockbox already contains both, you only need the necessary gamefiles.
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02:09:51ForgottenMemoryi already have the game files but i was wondering if i can add it to the menu because right now on the menu its Apple OS, Rockbox, Disk Mode, and Sleep. What i want to add is Rockdoom and Rockboy for easy game acess
02:10:55PaulJamthese plugins are run from rockbox.
02:11:34ForgottenMemoryi already no how to run them from rockbox, what im trying to do is if its possible put them on the loader so i dont have to load rockbox just load the game
02:12:02PaulJami don't think this is possible
02:12:10ForgottenMemorythats why im asking
02:13:29SoapThey are programs, that need an OS.
02:13:32pagefaulthmm
02:13:36SoapRockBox and IPL are OSs
02:13:43pagefaultI sort of have tuner working on H10
02:13:51pagefaultI took the H320 code and made some changes
02:13:54pagefaultbut it really sucks right now
02:14:27pagefaultright now I want my player to stop locking up
02:14:31pagefaultbecause it's driving me insane
02:14:40ForgottenMemoryyea i know what os's are so your saying i cant add it to the menu? I was thinking like i can add it to the menu as a shortcut to the plugin
02:15:19pagefaultI hope the HD isn't screwed
02:15:28pagefaultit doesn't sound too good
02:16:26pagefaultonly one way to find out
02:16:29pagefaultsurface test
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02:26:34craigshihhey, how do you convert to standard graphics (doom) with DEUTEX?
02:29:38 Part pixelma
02:32:10Soapdon't know
02:32:23craigshih>_<
02:32:29craigshihdoes anyone know?
02:32:43Paul_The_Nerdcraigshih: Extract the files, convert them to a valid size using a GIF editor (I think they were GIFs) and then insert the back, I think
02:33:07craigshih>_< that wouldtake awhile....
02:33:22craigshihis there an automatorfor this?
02:34:09Paul_The_NerdNobody's bothered to create one
02:34:19Paul_The_NerdThe ones with invalid graphics are usually valid for the GP32
02:34:41craigshihah thanks
02:35:28pagefaultwow
02:35:32pagefaultok thats a relief
02:35:36pagefaultchkdsk says hd is fine
02:35:41pagefaultmust be firmware
02:37:31preglowPaul_The_Nerd: yeah, i noticed that too, i wonder what's up
02:37:59preglowhttp://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2006-September/014879.html
02:38:03preglowbut according to that, something is working
02:39:04Paul_The_Nerdpreglow: Well that's good. Too bad about the vorbis encoder guy vanishing.
02:40:05preglowPaul_The_Nerd: and yet, a vorbis encoder showed up in cvs just now
02:40:29preglowPaul_The_Nerd: doesn't contain the name of the soc vorbis encoder guy, though
02:40:55Paul_The_NerdWeird
02:41:08craigshihhey.. who gave the name rockbox to it?
02:42:12Paul_The_Nerdpreglow: On a vaguely related note, do you think for encoders that aren't realtime (or for quality levels that couldn't reach realtime) post-processing encoders might be useful? For example, if someone doesn't have a PC to hook up to, and wants to clear some space for more recording the next day, so maybe encoding/transcoding a list of tracks overnight?
02:42:25Paul_The_Nerdcraigshih: It was voted on on the mailing list, ages ago.
02:45:26craigshih:)
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02:49:56preglowPaul_The_Nerd: sure, potentially useful
02:50:10preglowPaul_The_Nerd: i'd like a transcoding interface anyway, shouldn't be too hard
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02:50:32preglowPaul_The_Nerd: which also means we could add codecs which aren't necessarily realtime, we just need a way to flag to the playback system that they're not
02:50:43preglowplayback/recording, that is
02:50:49 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.")
02:50:53Paul_The_NerdYeah
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02:55:31preglowbut then again, such a feature might quickly grow too involved and huge for something only a small fraction of our users will use
02:58:12preglowbut bedtime now, see y'all later
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03:02:16*amigan looking at the x5 hardware component wiki page and is wondering what the hell the white LED driver IC could possibly be used for
03:03:18amiganAh, never mind. LCD bias.
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03:09:19Davide-NYCAnybody have an iRiver H3x0? I'm looking for instructions to supply 5V to re-enable USBOTG.
03:10:10aliaskDavide-NYC: There's a post on Mistic River which explains how to do it
03:10:34Davide-NYCMan I just spent like 10 minutes looking for it!
03:10:36aliaskI assume you mean getting a US H300 to have USBOTG?
03:10:36Davide-NYC:-P
03:10:47Davide-NYCaliask: yes
03:11:30aliaskOk, I just found it - it's a sticky in the H300 forum.
03:11:38aliaskHidden away really.
03:11:40aliask:p
03:12:55Davide-NYCNo, that's an external solution.
03:13:03aliaskhttp://godzilla.disca.upv.es/~spetit/gallery/iriver/mooded-h320.jpg
03:13:06aliaskIn the same thread
03:13:50Davide-NYCthat's why I missed it
03:13:54Davide-NYCno patience
03:13:56Davide-NYCthanks
03:13:58aliask:)
03:14:01aliaskNo worries
03:16:42Davide-NYCother than being really careful is there anything I should know before attempting this?
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03:25:35Davide-NYCwow everything running slooooow tonight
03:25:48Davide-NYCcvs up -dPC is taking forever
03:26:00Davide-NYC*urghh*
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03:46:30pagefaultso pretty much with every upgrade of firmware I should delete the .rockbox folder
03:46:32pagefaultnot just overwrite
03:46:48Davide-NYCI delete
03:46:56Davide-NYCI also reset
03:47:02Davide-NYCbut I'm crazed
03:47:09pagefaultwell with mine it's just a file
03:47:33Paul_The_NerdWhats just a file?
03:47:36pagefaultI think taking out .rockbox kills your cfg files
03:47:39pagefaultI mean
03:47:40Davide-NYCqq: what does this error mean on MAKE FULLZIP? −−> zip warning: name not matched: rockbox.iriver
03:47:40Paul_The_NerdNope
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03:47:49Paul_The_NerdWell, yes it deletes the .cfg files
03:47:56Paul_The_NerdBut your configuration is actually stored in a sector outside the partition
03:48:02Paul_The_NerdSo even reformatting can leave it.
03:48:04pagefaulthuh really
03:48:06Paul_The_NerdYup
03:48:09pagefaulteven on something like H10
03:48:12Paul_The_NerdYup
03:48:14Davide-NYCdidn't know that either
03:48:20pagefaultso in essence I should be reformatting it
03:48:23Paul_The_NerdNope
03:48:44Paul_The_NerdIf you want to clear the settings, for H10, just turn on hold immediately after powering up, and leave it on until booting finishes and it says "Cleared"
03:48:47pagefaultit's just a PITA to sync all my music every time if I have to format
03:49:06Paul_The_NerdAnyway, overwriting should *normally* be fine.
03:49:07Davide-NYCno need to format the drive
03:49:18Paul_The_NerdIn some cases deleting the .rockbox folder can resolve problems if you have them
03:49:21pagefaultoh
03:49:22pagefaultcool
03:49:23pagefaultthanks for the tip
03:49:34Paul_The_NerdThe *worst* case can be resolved by deleting the folder, and then after the new version is on, the first time you boot it up, clearing the settings
03:49:44Paul_The_NerdIf problems are still happening after that, you start thinking "Bugs"
03:49:57pagefaultI always thought it refers to the circle button as play though
03:49:59pagefaulton the H10
03:50:07Paul_The_NerdHm?
03:50:08pagefaultbeing kinda funny
03:50:13pagefaultbecause there is a play button
03:50:22pagefaultwhen I delete a directory it says push play to confirm
03:50:27pagefaultbut really you have to push the circle button
03:50:31Paul_The_NerdYeah
03:50:41Paul_The_NerdThat's because the .lang file hasn't been modified to take into account the h10 yet
03:50:58pagefaultah
03:51:01pagefaultI should update it@##$
03:51:24pagefaultit really confused me the first time
03:52:25pagefaultso MS posted RC2 32-bit
03:52:28pagefaultwhere the hell is 64-bit
03:52:31Davide-NYCplease see my question about "zip warning: name not matched: rockbox.iriver"
03:53:55*Paul_The_Nerd sees no question...
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03:55:53Paul_The_NerdWhat question are you referring to?
03:56:37Davide-NYCon make fullzip I get the following error
03:56:40Davide-NYC zip warning: name not matched: rockbox.iriver
03:57:01Davide-NYCmt resulting zipfile is incomplete and contains no rockbox.iriver file
03:57:04Davide-NYC*my
03:57:59Paul_The_NerdWhat target are you making for?
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04:29:42Davide-NYCI just checked out a clean CV
04:29:45Davide-NYCS
04:29:58Davide-NYCI think it's working now so it must be a patch
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04:46:00Davide-NYCqq: background image must be a BMP?
04:46:09Davide-NYCno jpeg or png or gif?
04:46:15Davide-NYCetc
04:46:26Davide-NYC(this is for H3x0)
04:48:45Paul_The_Nerd24, 8, or 1-bit BMP
04:48:55Paul_The_NerdOh, wait
04:48:58Paul_The_NerdBackground is only 24-bit bimp
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05:09:36Davide-NYCis this a valid feature request? Unix style tie displayed in clock −−> YYYY/MM/DD-HH:MM:SS
05:10:03Davide-NYC(having a lot of fun discovering the stuff available in the H3x0)
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06:01:37Davide-NYCOMG are the RB servers choking on something huge or what? I can't get anything from rockbox.org. *cough* *hack* *sputter*
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06:31:21Abs0luteZer0anyway, i just figured Id throw this out there - has anyone looked into possible syncability w/ songbird? it's open source, kinda itunesish, but built on mozilla brower
06:32:41sneakumsit sounds like something they'd be able to implement, if they so chose
06:33:19Abs0luteZer0the dev team is pretty strong and is always open to adding functionaltiy...looks like they intend to add some kind of syncing...anyways, it'd be a cool colaboration of projects, it'd make both projects seem that much cooler, and im sure everyone'd be happy to have their music client be able to play flac n ogg, etc
06:34:05aliaskBecause all rockbox devices are UMS, I'd have to be something that was implemented by Songbird.
06:34:07Abs0luteZer0its wierd when ur mp3 player can play more formats that ur comp's music client haha
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06:34:36Abs0luteZer0yeah
06:35:19aliaskBut yeah, there are very few PC based media players which sync music between devices that use UMS.
06:35:33Abs0luteZer0i mean, maybe we could provide songbird w/ a possible means of interface and they could tell us what kind of info they'd need the device to send/recieve
06:36:13Abs0luteZer0yeah it's true - especially like a true sync
06:36:45Abs0luteZer0as opposed to just copying a playlist over or something
06:37:51Abs0luteZer0i really think that's a main deterant for some ppl, they just get sick of manually updating theyre player n figure ehh, ill just get an ipod n let itunes do the work
06:46:59scorchealiask: not all devices are UMS
06:47:20aliaskWhich aren't?
06:47:36scorche20gb h10
06:47:56aliaskDo you have to take the harddrive out to put RB on it?!
06:47:57scorcheand i dont believe archos player and recorder v1 are
06:48:36Abs0luteZer0it could even be a more creative sync, like a 2 way sync...i know i throw mp3s from other ppl's comps onto my player all the time, and i have a "new stuff" folder that put that in, to kind of preview it before i actually add it to my library - so maybe there could be a way to indicate music you'd like to be imported to the computer too
06:49:30Abs0luteZer0hmm yeah, i guess that'd be difficult w/ the hardware differences
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07:20:19pagefaultwow
07:20:23pagefaultthis sucks
07:20:30pagefaultI can't download any firmware
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07:25:22scorchepagefault: download.rockbox.org is on a different server
07:25:35pagefaultah is it
07:26:19pagefaultthanks for the tip
07:26:26scorche;)
07:26:29pagefaultdon't have tools right now to compile cvs
07:27:47pagefaultoct 4th firmware not so good
07:28:06scorchemeh...i have never used a daily...
07:28:13pagefaultI like living on the edge
07:28:30scorchei like living on the bleeding edge =)
07:29:09hcsI like living over the edge, but not realizing it so I avoid plummeting to my death
07:29:24hcsaw, crap
07:29:26scorcheas long as you dont look down
07:29:32scorcheand dont carry a sign with you
07:37:53pagefaultI thought my HD was screwed
07:37:58pagefaultbut it was just the firmware messing up
07:38:04pagefaultit was making strange noises
07:38:08pagefaultbut I did a complete surface check on it
07:38:15pagefaultno problems
07:39:28pagefaultooh
07:39:29pagefaultcleared
07:39:30pagefaultok
07:39:39pagefaultso now I should have a fresh player
07:41:22pagefaultah this is much better
07:41:24pagefaultno more freezes
07:43:24midkaynice little rant there...!
07:44:02scorche(andhe knows rants!)
07:44:04scorche;)
07:44:12pagefaultI like rants
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08:40:43voltagexI'm getting 404s on the daily builds and general slowness on the rockbox website. Is it in the middle of a build or something?
08:41:34scorchebuilds dont cause that
08:41:41scorchejust a slow moment for whatever reason
08:42:31scorcheif you need a new build, download.rockbox.org is on a different server
08:43:15voltagexok
08:45:47voltagexthanks, bleeding edge now :D
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08:53:30voltagexthe wiki's unusable right now, I'd like to know what the appropriate resolution for mpegplayer on H300 is.
08:57:25scorcheuse google's cache
08:59:43voltagexgood idea
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09:04:16amiconnvoltagex: 224x176 for fullscreen
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09:10:04voltagexamiconn: yeah, I was able to get the page in the end
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09:20:24Kitt0show can i auto remove unplayable files?
09:20:24Kitt0sin winamp or something
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11:13:14markunhi pixelma, are you planning to make nice USB logos?
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11:15:42pixelmahaven't thought about it yet :)
11:17:37nlsrockbox.org seems to be down again...
11:18:09scorchejust slow
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11:19:36nlsit's been loading for 5 minutes and nothing happends...
11:19:44scorcheas i said...just slow
11:20:11scorcheanything you need from it can be gained through google's cache or download.rockbox.org though
11:20:31nlsBut I need my daily fix! :-P
11:20:37scorche...of?
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11:20:53nlsumm cvs activity and that
11:20:59*linuxstb has just tried multiple restores of his 5g with the 1.2 firmware, and it didn't change to 2048-byte sectors - contrary to some forum reports...
11:21:05Quazgaanls: nerd
11:21:22nlsindeed
11:21:22Quazgaago outside or something instead
11:21:22scorchenls: cvs is still up =)
11:21:35scorchewho needs a colorful graph?
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11:22:40nlscolorful graph of what?
11:22:53BHSPitLappycvs drama
11:22:59scorcheof the dev's scores!
11:23:06nlsme!
11:23:13scorchehush you!
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11:30:25linuxstbamiconn: Did you see my reply to your two comments about my bitmap patch? (18:51 GMT yesterday)
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11:55:32amiconnlinuxstb: Yes I did.
11:55:44amiconnI must say I don't like the change to void*
11:56:01linuxstbThat's why I didn't just commit it...
11:56:09amiconnFurthermore, your usb logo patch has a serious bug
11:56:42amiconnOn recorder, I now get an immediate I04: IllInstr at 00000000 when plugging USB
11:58:52amiconnI can only use bootbox USB now
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12:02:06Quazgaalinuxstb: time to kick it up a notch you rummy
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12:10:48amiconnlinuxstb?
12:11:24linuxstbSorry, had to leave for a few minutes... That I04 must mean the screen->bitmap() function isn't being initialised...
12:12:45linuxstbYes, I see the bug - I changed the wrong part of screen_access.c (the remote part, not main screen...)
12:19:26linuxstbamiconn: Fix committed for that bug.
12:21:53linuxstbDo you have any better suggestions for dealing with the screens->bitmap issue? The only other solution I can think of is to avoid the problem and remove the native bitmap drawing functions from the screens API - as far as I can see, it's just used for the USB logo at the moment
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12:30:44amiconnlinuxstb: Hmm. Afaik the boot splash also doesn't use the screen api...
12:31:10dan_aHas anyone tested pause on headphone unplug on iPod minis? It's reading the wrong GPIO port for the 3G, but I don't want to break the minis by correcting it.
12:32:04*amiconn wonders what happened to the server
12:36:15linuxstbamiconn: Yes, that's my alternative suggestion - display the USB logo the same way as the boot logo by using lcd_bitmap and lcd_remote_bitmap directly. But my "void" proposal would let us use the screens API for the boot logo as well.
12:36:53obodan_a: I /think/ I remember hearing it was working on minis - the IPL wiki says it uses the same GPIO: http://ipodlinux.org/Gpio
12:37:35obodan_a: if you're about to change it, could you look at FS #6131 as well?
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12:38:43dan_aobo: Thanks. I'll take a look at 6131 when the page finally loads...
12:39:21linuxstbdan_a: Why would your fix break the mini? They have IPOD_4G_PAD defined - only the 3G has IPOD_3G_PAD.
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12:39:27obodan_a: it just moves the headphones_interted function to the target tree...
12:39:38voltagexamiconn, the server's been slow for many hours now
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12:40:23oboit was running quite quickly about 5 minutes ago, but slow again now :-/
12:40:53linuxstbIt's possibly just under a heavy load - IIRC, it only has a 2Mbit/s internet link.
12:40:55amiconnvoltagex: I know that, but I don't know why
12:41:08dan_alinuxstb: I had a quick look at the commit to get 3G and minis working, and it didn't add anything in button.c for IPOD_4G_PAD, so I just assumed that they were the same
12:41:14amiconncvs update hangs completely here
12:42:14voltagexamiconn: haxx issue maybe? curl.haxx.se is slow as well
12:42:30oboI think they share the same connection
12:42:47linuxstbOr they could even be the same physical server...
12:43:34*amiconn summons Bagder, LinusN or Zagor
12:46:23dan_aAssuming it works, I can't see any reason not to apply FS #6131. linuxstb: can you see any issues with it?
12:46:35obotested on a 5g target
12:47:47obodan_a: what did I do wrong for the 3g GPIO?
12:48:25dan_aobo: IPL have got it wrong, as far as I can tell.
12:49:02linuxstbobo: According to the IPL GPIO wiki page, you should test 0x01, not 0x10
12:49:25dan_aAnd it's GPIOC not GPIOB
12:51:27linuxstbdan_a: No, I can't see any problems with FS #6131 - commit it with your fix for the 3g.
12:51:46dan_alinuxstb: Will do
12:54:26*amiconn is still fighting with the splash() code
12:54:26nlshit it good and proper! :-)
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13:33:51amiconnHmm, seems I got it right this time... testing...
13:34:51Genre9mp3What happened to rockbox.org? Seems that everything is extremely slow... or is it just me?
13:35:04scorcheit is just you
13:35:10scorche...and everyone else ;)
13:35:33*petur is waiting already for several minutes
13:36:17scorchemost everything can be accessed by google's cache and download.rockbox.org
13:36:37Genre9mp3Argh... I can't load the irc logs...
13:38:25peturhmmm... cvs is slow too
13:40:07mattzzcould be a matter of gravity :)
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13:43:08Genre9mp3At last! After several minutes and F5 presses I have the whole... txt! :)
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13:53:49amiconnrbr? ;)
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13:55:36voltagexgood night
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13:58:38JoelyMR BAGDER!? IS IT REALLY YOU!?
13:58:45preglowYES
13:58:47preglowYES IT IS
13:58:48preglowON YOUR KNEES
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14:01:05preglowtwo o'clock isn't normal? :>
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14:33:50lamedhello
14:35:09lameda question: how do you update/change a cvs commit description? a while ago I have commited splash.c and someone changed the description for what I asked on the channel
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14:52:04linuxstblamed: You use "cvs annotate"
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14:58:23lamedlinuxstb: annotate: what revision modified each line of a file? -> what's the syntax to change revision's comment?
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15:02:58linuxstbSorry, maybe I gave you the wrong command. Let me check...
15:04:12linuxstbAh, I think it's probably "cvs admin"
15:04:17preglowit is
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15:04:59linuxstbhttp://www.andamooka.org/reader.pl?pgid=cvsbookmain_78
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15:16:38lamedtt once again.
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15:32:26Genre9mp3Looks like rockbox.org is back to normal! :)
15:33:08amiconnlamed: I have a considerable rework of splash() pending. Looking good, just requiring a bit more testing
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15:40:49lamedamiconn: what are you doing with it?
15:41:38lamedQ: I'm doing something like:
15:42:19lamedgrep 'splash(' -r * −−exclude=*.lang | grep LANG* -o
15:42:23peturlamed: amiconn just left
15:42:57*petur runs off too
15:43:00lamedi'm getting a long list of LANG , where I want to be getting the whole LANG value
15:43:17lamedpetur: yeah, i've noticed a bit alte
15:43:56lamedany help with my question?
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15:51:16linuxstblamed: I think you want LANG[A-Z_]* in your last grep - the * matches "0 or more of the previous character".
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15:55:09revelation_Hi. Is it possible to make RockBox use crossfading only on "normal" track-changes, not when I'm switching tracks manually? I cannot see an option providing this... (I'm using an iPod Nano)
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16:14:26linuxstbrevelation_: No, I don't think there's currently an option for that.
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16:18:32lamedwell, linuxstb, it's more like grep 'splash(' -r * −−exclude=*.lang | grep LANG_[A-Z]*_[A-Z]*_[A-Z]* -o but that's pretty stupid. I should look for stopping the grep command when it reaches an )
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16:29:19revelation_linuxstb: What do you think: If I add that feature to RockBox would it be welcomed?
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16:37:57lamedI don't get it. how come grep stops searching after an "_" sign? isn't using the * sign should include _ signs?
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16:40:12zethe * sign?
16:40:19ze* means to repeat the last match 0 or more times
16:40:32zemaybe you want the . sign, which matches any character
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17:26:11Dma-Scand the transparency color (255,0,255) doesn't work either on h120?
17:28:29Genre9mp3Dma-Sc: No..it does not... and since you can't have background, it doesn't make sense
17:30:17Dma-Scit depends, displaying text on a line will still erase the possible bitmap bits on it?
17:31:21Dma-Scor do you mean it's missing? :)
17:31:50Genre9mp3transparency works between a backround and other bmps
17:33:00Dma-Scah ok, i was thinking of using it on text
17:34:11Genre9mp3text is supposed to be on top always
17:34:52Dma-Scwell it clears bitmap parts on the line then displays the text
17:37:03Genre9mp3what are you trying to do?
17:37:47Dma-Schaving bitmap parts on line where text is displayed
17:37:50Dma-Sc+a
17:38:00Dma-Scon a line
17:39:42Genre9mp3hmmm...
17:40:00Genre9mp3I remember once I experienced that problem... but that was a while ago...
17:40:13Genre9mp3Is it a scrolling line?
17:40:35Dma-Scno it won't be
17:40:36Genre9mp3If I remember well, this happens on scrolling lines... but I'm not so sure
17:41:47Genre9mp3What info you display on that line?
17:43:12Dma-Sci try something to check exactly :)
17:43:44Genre9mp3something to check?
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17:48:14Dma-Scto see precisely what would be my problem, because working with wps is quite confusing after a while
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17:49:15Genre9mp3Dma-Sc: ok... good luck on that
17:49:58Dma-Scmhh
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18:00:27Dma-Scah no it's working fine, i'll be able to do exactly what i want, sweet! :)
18:00:40Dma-Scsorry to have bothered you btw
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18:22:57amiconnlamed: Your version of splash() has several bugs, some of them serious (i.e. crash bugs)
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18:23:09lamedwhoops, such as?
18:24:13amiconnSearch yesterday's log for my findings
18:24:57amiconnE.g. immediate "Panic: stkov scroll" on player
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18:33:29lamedamiconn: I guess next[-1] = ' '; /* re-concatenate string */ is the problem then
18:33:31GreyFouxhi !
18:33:35lamedhi!
18:33:56lamedamiconn: if it's saved on ROM that is,
18:33:57amiconnlamed: It's not the problem, or rather, it's one of the minor ones
18:34:01amiconnNope
18:34:22amiconnI'm just about to commit a properly woking version
18:34:37lamedwell then, what is creating the problem? um, okay,
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18:38:17amiconnCheck my commit and compare...
18:38:58amiconnThere were also some old bugs
18:39:22lamedsomthing is wrong for me with the cvs build table
18:40:36amiconnLooks like a hanging build. Argh! I thought that Linus fixed it...
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18:41:27linuxstbThat was from this morning when the website was running extremely slowly.
18:42:24lamedi can't get a cvs diff out of your commit aswell
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18:43:16amiconn'cvs diff' doesn't take new things on the server into account
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18:43:37amiconnIt just diffs your working copy against the same file versions on the server
18:43:52*amiconn summons Bagder or LinusN
18:44:08lamed* of course it does, I just can't get it to work.
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18:48:59lamedamiconn: are you willing to upload a diff to somewhere?
18:54:48mirakdid a guy asked here about a fryed usb port on H300 ?
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19:06:23Dma-Scwps tags allow to do fancy stuff now :) although some still requires some tricks (such as animations)
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19:27:41X-Snoop-Xhello all, I'm about to start the rockbox transformation
19:28:04X-Snoop-Xbut I got so,e questions.. can anyone help?
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19:29:20X-Snoop-XI have a ipod video 60 gig will rockbox work on it?
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19:29:44X-Snoop-Xi see in teh install wiki that it has a bootloader for a 5 gig
19:29:59Soap5th Generation
19:30:07SoapG as in generation.
19:30:16X-Snoop-XOH
19:30:16SoapnotGB as in gigabyte.
19:30:20X-Snoop-XI see
19:30:25X-Snoop-Xmy bad
19:30:29X-Snoop-Xthx
19:30:41X-Snoop-XI feel like a dumb ass now
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19:34:21Dma-Scbattery level wps tag in conditional form can only have 5 levels on h120 (%?bl<0|1|2|3|4>)?
19:37:20Genre9mp3Dma-Sc: This has been changed now...
19:37:28Genre9mp3You can use as many levels as you like
19:37:52Genre9mp3but...it starts from "-1"
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19:39:08Genre9mp3"-1" is used when the battery level isn't known
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19:40:14Genre9mp3Also... you have to know that the last level will show up only when the battery is 100% so is good to use the last bmp twice
19:41:21amiconnbbl
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19:44:53Dma-ScGenre9mp3 : ah ok i see, excellent :) thanks
19:54:50Genre9mp3Dma-Sc: The same also is for volume...you can use as many levels as you like
19:55:06Genre9mp3Dma-Sc: Though there isn't a "-1" level in volume
19:55:22Dma-Scok, nice for real custom stuff :)
19:55:53Genre9mp3yup! :)
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19:57:34Dma-Scalso great that the simulator shows the various battery levels rapidly
19:58:45Genre9mp3What I miss in the simulators, is a "hold" button btw
19:59:45Dma-Scah yeah, would be interesting as well for complete wps testing
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20:06:37XavierGrdamn it one of my hard disks just blew up!
20:06:52XavierGrfortunately it was the backup disk
20:07:01Genre9mp3XavierGr: Really?
20:07:04Genre9mp3which one?
20:07:34XavierGrthe second most older, a 250GB IDE (Western Digital)
20:07:55Genre9mp3oh...this reminds me that I need a second back up disk....
20:08:16Genre9mp3At least you didn't have any data loss..
20:08:26XavierGrI just realiside the luxury of having a backup disk
20:08:35XavierGrI nver needed one, and here goes
20:09:12Genre9mp3Well...you can consider yourself lucky that it was just the backup disk
20:09:15XavierGr(my spelling is getting worse)
20:10:01XavierGrIt was a good choice to move all of my data to the new disks then
20:10:09XavierGr(and the ghosted OS)
20:10:24XavierGrit took me a day or so, but at least I have my data
20:11:02lamedsomething is wrong with CVS. if anyone take a look ove hebrew.lang recent cvs changes (through the cvs mailing list though) he'll see lots of newlines that I haven't put in.
20:16:29X-Snoop-XCould I ask you guys what the best realese is that I shoudl put on my ipod video 60gig
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20:17:01rushfanHey, how is support for the 5.5th gen ipods going?
20:17:03Genre9mp3X-Snoop-X: There isn't a release yet for iPods
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20:17:37Genre9mp3X-Snoop-X: Just use the latest daily or bleeding edge build
20:17:39X-Snoop-Xoh
20:17:46X-Snoop-Xno ockbox for ipods
20:17:52X-Snoop-X?
20:18:03X-Snoop-Xoh ok
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20:19:04Genre9mp3X-Snoop-X: No...Rockbox works on iPods... but just there isn't an official release, yet
20:19:22XavierGrjust as iriver targets
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20:20:24peturXavierGr: I lost my backup disk in a crash last week, too bad I had also installed my rockbox dev trees on it (and not backed up)
20:20:53Genre9mp3This conversation is very scary for me...
20:21:13peturthe disk was only 4 months old
20:21:14Genre9mp3I have some unbackuped data atm... :/
20:21:16lamedhow do I use sed to take empty newlines out of a file?
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20:24:32XavierGrpetur: wow only 4 months? mine was at least 2 years old (iirc)
20:25:03peturat least I'll have warranty on it...
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20:32:33XavierGrpetur: indeed
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20:34:07petursomebody should kick the webserver, the build table and homepage don't get updated anymore
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20:42:56linuxstb_Unfortunate typo from LLorean in his reply here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6893.0 :)
20:43:33DD_awaylol
20:44:37Genre9mp3hehe
20:46:02Genre9mp3We should report him this as a bad post! :)
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20:51:51Genre9mp3linuxstb: Are these warnings on the H300 suspect to cause any problems on target?
20:52:34X-Snoop-Xwoot rockbox loaded
20:52:41X-Snoop-Xit was easy
20:53:10X-Snoop-Xis there any gui being developed for this?
20:53:29petursure
20:53:41peturlook at the wps galleries in the wiki
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20:58:35X-Snoop-Xalright
20:58:47X-Snoop-XI just got to learn this system now
20:58:50X-Snoop-X:-D
20:58:56X-Snoop-XBut it looks awsome
20:59:03X-Snoop-Xyou guys rock
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20:59:35*petur points to the manual
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21:07:39lamedany sed experts? should sed '/^$/d' file.name > 123 take all empty newlines off on gnu sed? -cause it doesn't...
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21:18:04webguest02is ogg q8 playback on ipod video alright? i often had crashes when i had my ipod 4 gen
21:19:47midkayyou could always try it, shouldn't be a problem.
21:20:02midkaythe 4Gs are known to be pretty unstable as well.
21:22:26webguest02midkay: well i wouldnt think the video would be more satble from a programming stand point
21:22:36midkaywebguest02: and why not?
21:23:08webguest02midkay: if the 4g has been out longer that would mean theyev been programmed for longer
21:23:19midkayum, no, that's not how it works.
21:23:38midkayregardless, the 4G port of Rockbox has some weirdness going on.
21:23:47webguest02midkay: i thought rockbox was the most stable on the first iriver models?
21:23:51midkaylots of lock-ups and crashes reported.
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21:24:23midkaywebguest02: that doesn't mean it's because "it's been out longer". and it's pretty much equally stable on most targets with a few exceptions.. one of those is the 4G.
21:24:44webguest02midkay: im trying to decide whether to pay 179 for an ipod video or 274 for an iaudio x5l
21:25:06midkaythat's pretty damn cheap..
21:25:31webguest02wmidkay: which would have the same feautures if running rockbox
21:25:43midkaywebguest02: was that a question?
21:25:45webguest02midkay: thats what theyre selling it for on the apple site
21:25:52lamedasking again, important, any sed experts? should sed '/^$/d' file.name > 123 take all empty newlines off on gnu sed? -cause it doesn't...
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21:25:58midkayapple doesn't sell any 5Gs for $179.
21:26:22midkaythey sell 30GB for $249 or 80GB for $349 at the moment.. and if it's on the Apple site it's gonna be rockbox-incompatible for a while.
21:26:30midkaythose are the new models, the "5.5"Gs.
21:26:45midkaywhich rockbox doesn't run at all on right now/
21:26:49webguest02midkay: yeah they do http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/0.RSLID?mco=32DAAC51&nclm=Certified
21:27:15lamedwowowowowowowowowow
21:27:33midkayah, refurbished. hm.
21:27:54webguest02midkay: so they probably wont be 5.5
21:28:20midkayyes, from the picture and specs and price and similar products that would look to be a 5G.
21:30:00webguest02so i thought it would be worth the risk of refurbished since it comes with 1 year warranty as long as it wasnt as buggy as 4g
21:32:04lamedrefurbished is interesting, the main problem imo is the h.d, but it still is better then getting a second hand
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21:34:07midkaywebguest02: i have a 5G, it's quite stable.. i don't remember it crashing at all recently, maybe only one or two playback glitches where i was skipping around quickly or so, i just had to stop the music and resume it.
21:34:56Davide-NYCHello all. I recently (yesterday) purchased an iRiver H320 for the wife.
21:34:59webguest02midkay: liek on my 4g it would always crash at least ocne during a playback of an album in ogg q-8
21:35:38midkaywebguest02: i told you about three times now, the 4G has a few severe bugs and that's a common problem.
21:35:57Davide-NYCRockbox installed fine. I think the battery is nearing the end of it's useful life.
21:36:10Davide-NYC(I bought it used)
21:36:27webguest02midkay: i know...im just very paranoid now about getting another ipod after my 4g experience :)
21:37:05midkaywebguest02: i understand, i've heard a lot about the 4G port being unstable, crashy, hardly working for some people.. quite a contrast to the other models. :)
21:37:51Davide-NYCquestion: why do we run runtime tests with an entire album of the cane codec?
21:37:55Davide-NYC*same
21:38:14Davide-NYCwhy not a floder of the same WAV encoded many different ways?
21:38:14lamedwould anyone please summons up the ipod limited warrenty for me..?
21:38:46midkayDavide-NYC: dunno, probably because people tend to have one format for most or all of their music..
21:39:14midkaya lot of people prefer MP3s, some are OGG lovers, some want FLAC lossless..
21:39:15Davide-NYCI'm working on awiki page that tries to standardize both runtime and codec testing.
21:39:39Davide-NYCthis may rpove disatrous, but I think we should have a standard test set
21:39:43midkayand if you play a mixture of MP3s and OGGs and FLACs and WAVs.. it's nearly never going to correspond to what the user has.
21:40:01midkayi think that's a little over-the-top/
21:40:05Davide-NYCbut it will give a real runtime read.
21:40:17midkayif the user wants to know battery life for him, and he wants it accurate, he should do it himself on his player.
21:40:18Davide-NYCwavpack is cpu intensive
21:40:25Davide-NYCtrue
21:40:31midkayif he wants a glance at his favorite codec on his player of choice, he could check the wiki page.
21:40:33Davide-NYCDIY. very true
21:40:33X-Snoop-Xhey how do you load your normal ipod firmware with rockbox installed
21:40:36X-Snoop-X?
21:40:58midkayi don't know anyone who could walk up to such a page and go "hey, a mixture of 2 WAV files, 5 MP3s, an OGG and two FLACs in one test! that's exactly what I always listen to!"
21:41:17midkayand even then that could be quite far off of their battery's performance.
21:41:38midkayX-Snoop-X: shut it off and then hold the menu button firmly until the bootloader comes up saying "loading original firmware".
21:41:51midkaydon't move your finger at all, you have to hold it quite firmly and still :)
21:42:22lamedlinuxstb: how's ipod recording going on?
21:43:15linuxstb_lamed: There's a patch on the patch tracker which details the status.
21:44:01X-Snoop-Xok
21:44:02X-Snoop-Xthx
21:44:33webguest02i like oggs and flacs
21:45:06Davide-NYCexclude the WAV file and you have described my listening patterns.
21:45:17Davide-NYCkitchen sink HD.
21:45:20X-Snoop-XI am a noob i know
21:45:22webguest02i like midis too
21:45:32webguest02and nsfs
21:45:46midkayDavide-NYC: interesting, i'd imagine that's quite rare though.
21:45:59Davide-NYChow do I create a wiki topic?
21:46:00webguest02ive got some shns somewhere
21:46:10Davide-NYCI've edited a few but never created one
21:46:22midkayeven if it isn't particularly rare, you can't possibly describe battery life with such a battery of (excuse the pun!) file types.
21:46:29Davide-NYChaha
21:46:40Davide-NYCnice one
21:46:44midkayDavide-NYC: i think just go to the topic name and hit "create" or whatever.
21:46:51midkayi'm so punny.. :)
21:47:07webguest02midkay: what is your playback time usually with your 5g?
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21:48:21midkaywebguest02: i don't listen ever to the point of 0% battery.. there is a wiki page with some useful info about that though.
21:49:02midkaywebguest02: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodRuntime
21:49:09webguest02midkay: just wondering if you went for 8 hours ebfoer for long trips...
21:49:33midkayi never take long trips, that's the thing :) i'd speculate about 8 hours.. look at the times on that page and you can average it out mentally.
21:49:41midkaylooks like around 10 hours for MP3s in fact.
21:50:27webguest02midkay: my 4g usually died after 3
21:50:58lamedlinuxstb_ Major SWCODEC Recording Update?
21:51:15midkaywebguest02: do i need to raise the "it has a major bug or three"-recital count to five? :)
21:51:17webguest02midkay: if it didtn crash before
21:51:35webguest02midkay: nope...im just stating facts
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21:51:48midkayit looks like everybody on that page has 8-10 hours, i have no crashes, they don't seem to either, no major reported bugs..
21:52:02midkaywebguest02: i'm stating them too. the 4G port has large bugs. that's a fact.
21:52:17webguest02how can you tell what flac level a file is?
21:53:02midkay*shrug*
21:53:03midkaybbi a few..
21:53:32linuxstb_lamed: Search for "ipod recording"
21:54:08lameddid, that's the only 1
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21:55:41lamed Recording for ipod 4g/Photo/5g and iriver H10
21:58:40lamedlinuxstb_: Isn't 16-bit/44.1KHz CD quality?
21:59:42preglow4g port shouldn't have any more bugs than the rest of the ipod ports, no?
21:59:50preglowlamed: deed it is
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22:05:47lamedlinuxstb_: fourth gen has a preamp built in?
22:06:06lamed-> the phone jack
22:06:45amiconnBagder: Player 's got a new feature :-P
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22:09:16pagefaultwow I am pissed
22:09:19pagefaultI actually bought a cd
22:09:23pagefaultand it doesn't even work on my PC
22:09:27pagefaultit's not recognized as a cd
22:09:45Genre9mp3pagefault: stupid protection?
22:10:06lamedI told you not to get any legal music!!!
22:10:07pagefaultit's just pink floyd dark side of the moon
22:10:12pagefaultI wanted a real copy of it
22:10:14preglowpagefault: the sacd release?
22:10:18pagefaultyes
22:10:23preglowyes, that might give problems
22:10:27preglowi just bought the good old version
22:10:33pagefaultyeah I am going to try to exchange it
22:10:38pagefaultor get credit or something
22:10:41pagefaultthis pisses me off
22:10:42lamedthey are all dead! your money just went to some recording company
22:10:46Genre9mp3SACD can be recognised on common drives?
22:10:50preglowlamed: pink floyd are dead?
22:11:05lamedmost of them , aren't they?
22:11:12preglownone of them are dead
22:11:16Genre9mp3lamed: NO
22:11:17pagefaultit's SACD which can't be read by anything but SACD players
22:11:25pagefaultbut I bought it because it was "remastered"
22:11:28lamedwell they should be
22:11:35preglowmight be, might be
22:11:40Genre9mp3pagefault: Can you return it?
22:11:45pagefaultyeah I am going to
22:11:53pagefaultif they give me a problem I am going to bitch at them
22:11:58pagefaultit doesn't say it won't work in a PC
22:12:02pagefaultanywhere
22:12:09lamedstar wars was remastered as well! did that made him any better movie?!
22:12:14Genre9mp3I'm sure that the simple CD version is remastered, too
22:12:24pagefaultwell if I can find the old one
22:12:27pagefaultis it even in print still
22:12:36pagefaultI need the one with the black cover
22:12:37pagefaultnot the purple
22:12:38preglowlamed: however, you should be careful with shouting too loudly about your meanings with the amount of background research you seem to have done
22:12:49Genre9mp3I doubt it's still
22:13:02pagefaultmy cdrw can sort of read it
22:13:04Genre9mp3But surely, you can find a re-release
22:13:07pagefaultbut my dvdrom is not seeing it
22:13:15preglowpagefault: i don't know if sacd has any inbuilt protection
22:13:23Genre9mp3What do you mean by sort of reading it?
22:13:33preglowthey're supposed to have a cd compatible layer, but that's all i know
22:13:36pagefaultit sees the tracks but it won't play them
22:13:41pagefaultthe dvdrom just say no disc in drive
22:13:43lamedyeah. i'm just talking nonsens. beacuse nobody answers my sed question and i have to dig up a big pile of manuals and that's boring.
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22:13:48lamed(preglow)
22:13:49Genre9mp3preglow: I think that SACD cannot be readen by typical drives
22:13:57preglowGenre9mp3: good to know
22:14:05preglowGenre9mp3: not even the cd compatible layer?
22:14:12pagefaultit works in my plain old cd player
22:14:13Genre9mp3Yes...
22:14:17pagefaultbut I mean thats not the purpose
22:14:20pagefaultI want it to work on my PC
22:14:24Genre9mp3I think that they need special players..
22:14:24TheWeeIrishHey, anyone mind helping me with a video ipod :) im a noob at this :(
22:14:28preglowpagefault: i'd justs swap it for a good old cd
22:14:34preglowTheWeeIrish: just ask away
22:14:35pagefaultyeah I am going to try
22:14:55Genre9mp3pagefault: Then if you can read it on a CD-Player...then the problem is protection
22:15:10TheWeeIrishOk, well i downloade dthe daily build for the ipod and it doesnt seem to work O.o
22:15:11pagefaultyeah well it says no where I can't play it on a pc
22:15:15pagefaultso thats false advertising
22:15:20preglowlamed: as for 96khz/24 bits, dvd audio can use that, and it's a bit over half a megabyte a second
22:15:33Genre9mp3...and preglow is right about the cd compatible layer
22:15:36preglowTheWeeIrish: what's wrong? more specifics, please
22:15:59pagefaulti'll just try to get a normal cd
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22:16:03pagefaultor a refund
22:16:06pagefaultand ebay it
22:16:11pagefaultfor a real copy
22:16:13TheWeeIrishWell, It just said to install it to the folder in my computer ... and.. i reboot it and nothing is showing up...
22:16:28preglowTheWeeIrish: it boots to the ordinary appel os?
22:16:29preglowapple
22:16:43Genre9mp3pagefault: I'm sure you can find a "normal CD" copy out in stores
22:16:46TheWeeIrishHuh?... Its a Ipod video... lol
22:16:48TheWeeIrishOH and
22:16:48lamedsony got a huge law suit for using the worst protection gimmick
22:16:49TheWeeIrishyes
22:16:49pagefaultGenre9mp3, maybe...
22:16:56pagefaultGenre9mp3, I think it might be out of print
22:16:56TheWeeIrishIts just a normal boot on it
22:17:21pagefaultatm I bought this this was the only one there
22:17:25Genre9mp3pagefault: Sure... but there are tons of re-releases that are remastered, too
22:17:27obopagefault: I got the normal cd version about 6 months ago...
22:17:28preglowTheWeeIrish: yes, the ipod just boots to the ordinary ipod os?
22:17:32TheWeeIrishYes
22:17:35preglowTheWeeIrish: if so, have you installed the bootloader?
22:17:37pagefaultok
22:17:50pagefaultwell I will just go back to the store and get another copy of the non sacd version
22:17:53pagefaultthanks
22:18:04TheWeeIrishThe.. bootloader-video?
22:18:08TheWeeIrishOr
22:18:12TheWeeIrishipod_fw
22:18:17preglowTheWeeIrish: yes, that part
22:18:27TheWeeIrishI downloaded it to my computer
22:18:30TheWeeIrishLike it said..
22:18:32preglowTheWeeIrish: if that part is done properly, the ipod should display some text the very moment you started it
22:18:40preglowTheWeeIrish: well, downloading it to your computer isn't exactly enough
22:18:42preglowhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation
22:18:46preglowhave you done what that page says?
22:18:54TheWeeIrishI downloaded it put it in the folder...
22:18:55TheWeeIrishBut
22:19:03TheWeeIrishIt something about start and execute
22:19:08TheWeeIrishand i dont see anything for that
22:19:43preglowi don't understand
22:19:49TheWeeIrishOne second
22:19:55preglowhave you followed that page or have you found installation instructions some other place?
22:20:42TheWeeIrishTheses are just a different format
22:21:47TheWeeIrishOk..
22:21:54TheWeeIrishSo i install the Rockbox on my computer too?
22:22:05Genre9mp3Btw...I find very odd SACD's concept (1bit - 2.8Mhz sample rate)
22:22:12preglowyou download it to your computer, then install it to your ipod
22:22:24preglowGenre9mp3: odd, yes, but it's perfectly logical and works ok
22:22:34preglowGenre9mp3: it realies heavily on noise shaping
22:22:36TheWeeIrishAlrighty let me try i
22:22:37TheWeeIrisht
22:22:42preglownoise shaping and oversampling
22:22:52preglowTheWeeIrish: if you followed the page link i gave you, you should be fine
22:22:58TheWeeIrishI will try :)
22:24:01preglowand i will go do some dishes
22:24:18Genre9mp3preglow: I wonder if there is a way to rip a SACD to a file (and how would that wrk)
22:24:28Genre9mp3*work
22:24:43preglowGenre9mp3: like usual
22:25:00preglowGenre9mp3: dunno if it's possible, but playing back the sacd format on a pc should be easy enough
22:25:24Genre9mp3Which codec can support 2.8Mhz sample rate?
22:25:41preglowyou don't output it like that
22:25:45preglowyou need to convert it to pcm first
22:25:52Genre9mp3Ah...
22:26:06preglowwhich you do by filtering the 1 bit signal with a lowpass filter, then sample the result
22:26:30preglowGenre9mp3: an interesting fact though is that the sacd format is exactly what the d/a and a/d convertors sound cards use internally
22:26:52Genre9mp3What do you mean?
22:27:04preglowGenre9mp3: modern a/d and d/a convertors are also 1 bit
22:27:18Genre9mp3Oh..didn't knew that
22:27:32preglowthey are 1 bit and work at a very high sample rate, just like sacd
22:27:46TheWeeIrishOk im in the CMD box and it says to navigate to the C:\rockbox directory
22:27:52TheWeeIrishHow do i go about doing that >.>
22:27:59Genre9mp3So what I thought is odd, is usual after all..
22:29:54TheWeeIrishAnyone?
22:29:55TheWeeIrishlol
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22:31:25barrywardelltype 'cd c:\rockbox'
22:32:01TheWeeIrishWoot thanks
22:32:10TheWeeIrishoh wow
22:32:13TheWeeIrishit was right there >>
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22:40:32lamedmmm.. anyone knows how do I remove a newline with perl?
22:41:07Bagders/\n//;
22:41:41lamed(an empty newline should I say)
22:41:46*petur looks for somebody who knows how to add a GPIO IRQ handler for coldfire
22:41:54Bagderan empty newline?
22:41:59Bagderyou mean an empty line?
22:42:17Bagdera newline is just a single byte
22:42:47lamedan empty line
22:42:56peturpetur/isp1362.patch">http://users.telenet.be/petur/isp1362.patch <−− what's wrong with that handler, I always get I00: or other crashes
22:43:17preglowpetur: eh, isn't it just a question of making a question of making a function with a name that matches one in the irq table in system.c ?
22:43:36peturI thought so
22:43:41preglowpetur: ignore extra "question", i suck
22:43:46preglowhmm
22:43:48preglowi think it is
22:43:55preglowi've done so myself
22:44:02TheWeeIrishHey..
22:44:02TheWeeIrishUhh
22:44:06peturbut as soon as I enable the isp int I get a crash
22:44:18TheWeeIrishI did everything it says now im getting an error that i need to restore my ipod
22:44:20peturmy int handler just disables int again
22:44:30lamedhttp://webguru.mathgurusonline.com/2006/03/03/remove-blank-lines-of-input-pt-3-of-extracting-lines-of-data-perl-tutorials-005/ bagder: good?
22:45:10preglowpetur: weird
22:46:00Bagderlamed: sure
22:46:01TheWeeIrishHey Preglow
22:46:23TheWeeIrishdid i need to move the files from C:\rockbox
22:46:31TheWeeIrishto my ipod folder in my computer
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22:47:04preglowTheWeeIrish: i'm not really an ipod installation wizard
22:47:48lamed..only that it suppose to state line number
22:48:03TheWeeIrish>:(
22:48:07TheWeeIrishGod damn it
22:48:08preglowamiconn: hahahah, and you nag at me for wanting to implement useless stuff?
22:48:45peturIf I would not have my int handler, would I always get a crash indicating the missing handler or would a higher int get triggered after that
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22:50:05pagefaultyay
22:50:09pagefaultI got a NORMAL cd this time
22:50:11pagefaultand it works
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22:50:49peturpreglow: I mean, maybe the isp int isn't attached to GPIO5 and I first get the default handler for GPI5 and immediatly after that another on (PDIR1FULL,...) or does the default handler block all other ints?
22:53:01TheWeeIrishHey does anyone know what it means when it says can not open firmware image file apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin
22:53:09TheWeeIrishLike where i can get it or something
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22:55:40preglowpetur: don't really know
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22:57:26linuxstb_TheWeeIrish: You create that file with one of the earlier commands in the installation instructions.
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23:03:01TheWeeIrishthe apple_Sw_5g_rcsc?
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23:03:34TheWeeIrishCould you see which one it is?
23:03:35TheWeeIrishd1?
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23:05:45TheWeeIrishLinuxstb!
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23:08:46TheWeeIrishomg
23:08:49TheWeeIrishhas anyone got htis to work
23:08:55TheWeeIrishthat can help me
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23:10:52linuxstb_TheWeeIrish: Step d.2)
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23:12:49TheWeeIrishYeah
23:12:56TheWeeIrishI dont get it
23:13:13TheWeeIrishIt says i need to rename or something
23:13:23lamedokay: a stupid question. I saved a sed script in a file, now how do I run it?
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23:13:56lamedsed scriptname ?
23:14:21linuxstb_TheWeeIrish: Step d.2) doesn't say to rename anything - just type the command EXACTLY as it appears on the wiki page.
23:14:38Davide-NYCQQ: You must exit and return to the "View Audio Thread" everytime a song changes to get a non-cumulative boost ratio.
23:14:43Davide-NYCCorrect?
23:14:57TheWeeIrishI do
23:15:03TheWeeIrishOk
23:15:08TheWeeIrishI will do it all over again -.-
23:15:48linuxstb_There should be no need to start from the beginning. But if you do, make sure you restore your ipod first.
23:16:00TheWeeIrishDont i loose all my songs?
23:16:04TheWeeIrishand videos..
23:16:07linuxstb_What happens when you type the command in d.2) ?
23:16:23TheWeeIrishlet me type it again
23:16:24Paul_the_NerdDavide-NYC: The best way to get the boost ratio for a song is to create a playlist with that single song (or set repeat one) so that the disk never spins up during playback. Also disable or permanently enable the backlight before entering the screen
23:16:32Paul_the_NerdDavide-NYC: Backlight fading and disk spinups both require boosting
23:16:43Paul_the_NerdThen let the song play through several times to get a good average, just to be safe.
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23:16:58TheWeeIrishOk
23:17:02TheWeeIrishIt stops for a sec then
23:17:05TheWeeIrishnothing
23:17:16linuxstb_Ok, that's perfect. Now go onto step e).
23:17:22Davide-NYCPaul_the_Nerd: thanks
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23:17:37TheWeeIrishk
23:17:39TheWeeIrishlets see..
23:17:41Paul_the_NerdDavide-NYC: Trying to develop a codec efficiency testing process?
23:17:49lamedI have found "runsed" to run sed scripts. but is this neccecery?
23:18:17TheWeeIrishOk
23:18:19TheWeeIrishStoped for a sec
23:18:26TheWeeIrishand back to the C:\rockbox
23:18:41Davide-NYCyes
23:18:46Davide-NYCworking on a wiki page
23:18:51Davide-NYCfirst time creating on
23:18:53Davide-NYC*on
23:18:57Davide-NYC**one
23:19:05Davide-NYCwanna help?
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23:19:34TheWeeIrishOk now i typed in the next one
23:19:37TheWeeIrishsaid it wrote something
23:19:44Davide-NYCI find my disk spinning up very little even when playing a series of different songs.
23:19:52TheWeeIrishnow i need to unplug it says..
23:20:05Davide-NYCPaul_the_Nerd: wanna give me some constructive critisim
23:20:08Davide-NYC?
23:20:14TheWeeIrishDidnt work
23:20:20TheWeeIrishsays i need to restore
23:20:29TheWeeIrishNo blue screen
23:20:30TheWeeIrishanyhting
23:20:41Paul_the_NerdDavide-NYC: Usually the disk only spins up once every 30mb, but playing a single song on repeat ensures that that one spinup won't skew your ratings. The best plan is to actually let the song finish once entirely *before* going into the debug screen
23:21:02Paul_the_NerdDavide-NYC: I can't really do much right now. I'm semi-busy and just glancing at this window every couple minutes
23:21:11Davide-NYCNP
23:21:28Davide-NYCI'm going ot post my trainwreck and ask others to attempt a rescue
23:21:31Davide-NYC:-)
23:22:06TheWeeIrishLinux
23:22:12TheWeeIrishShould i start over?
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23:23:30lamedguys: running sed scripts?
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23:23:57linuxstb_TheWeeIrish: How big are the following files? apple_os.bin, apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin and rockboot.bin
23:24:09***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
23:24:27TheWeeIrishApple_os.bin = 7,366
23:24:38TheWeeIrishSame for Apple_Sw_5g_rcsc
23:24:53TheWeeIrishrockboot is 14801
23:24:56linuxstb_Then that's the mistake - you didn't type d2) exactly.
23:25:09TheWeeIrishSo deleate Apple_Sw_5g?
23:25:13linuxstb_You typed "-e 0" instead of "-e 1"
23:25:14Davide-NYCPaul_the_Nerd: wouldn't returning to the "View Audio Thread" screen after the disk is finished give you a good idea?
23:25:19TheWeeIrishEh?
23:25:23TheWeeIrishDeleate it?
23:25:28TheWeeIrishand type it again?
23:25:34lamedalas! I can't do it!!!
23:25:37linuxstb_No need to delete it, just type d2) again.
23:25:40TheWeeIrishok
23:26:05linuxstb_And then check the size - it should be smaller than apple_os.bin
23:26:17Paul_the_NerdDavide-NYC: Honestly, yes. It just depends on how careful you want to be about it. As long as no disk spinups happen, and the backlight fading never happens, it should be a reasonable number
23:26:37TheWeeIrishits the same
23:26:38TheWeeIrish..
23:27:09TheWeeIrishDoes it matter if my ipod is updated?...
23:27:12Paul_the_NerdMaybe he typed 1 on the first step?
23:27:14TheWeeIrishLike new itunes and stuff?
23:28:11TheWeeIrishBleh...
23:28:34linuxstb_It should work with the latest firmware OK.
23:28:41TheWeeIrishHmm...
23:29:01TheWeeIrishok
23:29:02TheWeeIrishi got it
23:29:07TheWeeIrishhad..
23:29:08TheWeeIrishit
23:29:22TheWeeIrishI took it out of the folder
23:29:25TheWeeIrishand retyped it
23:29:29TheWeeIrishand its the same size
23:30:17TheWeeIrishQuick question
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23:30:36TheWeeIrishDid i need to put anything on the ipod though the mycomputer thing
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23:31:40TheWeeIrishARG this is so confusing
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23:33:31linuxstb_I've just extracted the two image files from my 5g running the latest (1.2) firmware, and apple_os.bin is 7489536 bytes and apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin is 5243392 bytes.
23:33:54TheWeeIrish...
23:33:55SoapTheWeeIrish - could you copy/paste your command prompt history in a PM to me (not in main chat), or post a screen shot? I'm having great difficulty following what you have done, and what you haven't done.
23:34:11TheWeeIrishMy command prompt
23:34:18TheWeeIrishits a mess..
23:34:20TheWeeIrishBecause like
23:34:31TheWeeIrishbut ..
23:34:34TheWeeIrishSure one second
23:34:46SoapI really don't care how much of a mess it is, I can follow that much easier than your questions so far.
23:35:09 Quit TheWeeIrish (Excess Flood)
23:35:20SoapI told him
23:35:26linuxstb_You did.
23:35:57linuxstb_I'm sure he's simply not typing d2) exactly as shown on the wiki.
23:36:00Soapfailure to read is most likely his problem.
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23:36:10TheWeeIrishSorry i sent soap my log and..
23:36:13TheWeeIrishIt kicked me
23:36:16SoapTheWeeIrish - there were two reasons I asked you to PM me.
23:36:31TheWeeIrishWhich is?
23:36:38Davide-NYCRequest: the "View Audio Thread" should show disk access. I have an iRiver H1x0 which has a dedicated LED, but many players do not.
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23:37:01Soap1 - posting that much in MC is rude, and 2 - posting that much in main chat gets you autokicked.
23:37:01 Quit drippydonut__ (Remote closed the connection)
23:37:13SoapI don't believe posting that much in PM gets you kicked, but I might be wrong.
23:37:52*petur whispers pastebin
23:37:56Paul_the_NerdThe best process is pastebin or a screenshot.
23:37:58Paul_the_NerdSo people can collaborate
23:38:13TheWeeIrishlol said i spammed sorry :) Im going to try it over again
23:38:36Soapyea, pastebin is probably the nicer choice.
23:38:49TheWeeIrishHow do i go about doing that?
23:39:18Paul_the_Nerdpastebin is a website
23:39:25Paul_the_NerdThat you can paste stuff to
23:39:29peturhttp://pastebin.com/
23:39:29Paul_the_NerdAnd then show it to other people
23:39:33Paul_the_NerdA bin, of pastings.
23:39:37peturthere are others
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23:41:46TheWeeIrishIm going to restore my ipod
23:42:49linuxstb_TheWeeIrish: You'll lose your music and videos if you do that...
23:43:02TheWeeIrishArg.....
23:43:34linuxstb_Try typing the command "ipodpatcher -w N bootpartition.bin" - replacing N by the number of your ipod.
23:43:43TheWeeIrishok
23:43:52linuxstb_That should safely restore your ipod without losing your music.
23:43:52preglowwe need a gui tool...
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23:44:05Davide-NYCpreglow: nah
23:44:09Davide-NYChehe
23:44:15preglowand this one i'm not writing
23:44:21Paul_the_NerdWe need to merge iPodPatcher and ipod_fw.exe
23:44:25linuxstb_That reminds me - the ipodwizard people have created one.
23:44:36preglowlinuxstb_: have they, now
23:44:40Paul_the_NerdSo you just type ipodtool N Model iRiverBootFilename
23:44:57linuxstb_Paul_the_Nerd: You've found your first programming project :)
23:45:35Soapwhy go all fancy GUI? Couldn't a perl script prompt for the relevant info and do the rest?
23:45:36Paul_the_Nerdlinuxstb_: Come monday I have time I can actually allocate to such a thing too.
23:46:02TheWeeIrishDidnt work
23:46:37Davide-NYCQQ: how do I simply create a newline in the wiki?
23:46:51Davide-NYCnot bulletted lists or the like, nor a new paragraph
23:47:11SoapTheWeeIrish - what was the message?
23:47:27Davide-NYCI guess I could use the verbatim tag
23:47:41peturDavide-NYC: isn't it in the wiki help?
23:47:57TheWeeIrishI just didnt work i unplugged it and it still says to reset it
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23:48:04linuxstb_TheWeeIrish: It sounds like you've run "ipodpatcher -r N bootpartition.bin" again after run "ipodpatcher -w N rockboot.bin"...
23:48:05Davide-NYCI'm looking in TextFormattingRules
23:48:37linuxstb_i.e. you've already restarted the instructions from the beginning.
23:49:53Davide-NYCI decided that bullets are ledgible
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23:51:36TheWeeIrishGrr
23:51:37TheWeeIrishForget it
23:51:48TheWeeIrishIm just going to restore..
23:52:03linuxstb_You'll have to now.
23:52:31TheWeeIrishI only had 3000 songs.. so not that big of a deal
23:52:39linuxstb_The important thing is to only run the "ipodpatcher -r N bootpartition.bin" command once - and keep that bootpartition.bin file safe. It's your backup.
23:53:30TheWeeIrishOk
23:53:43TheWeeIrishSO like make a copy of it and put it outside the folder?
23:54:14peturhmmm... I get the exact same behaviour if I comment out my INT handler :(
23:54:14TheWeeIrishOk should i just remove everything from the folder that i dont need ?
23:54:50linuxstb_Either - it's your choice.
23:54:54TheWeeIrishOk

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