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| 00:02:57 | jhMikeS | done |
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| 00:04:51 | jhMikeS | my background looks pretty nice now |
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| 00:07:01 | sneakums | sneakums/rockbox-ipod-sim.png">http://zork.net/~sneakums/rockbox-ipod-sim.png <−− one of my dithered backdrops in the ipod sim |
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| 00:08:10 | Soap | Revamped http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/rdiff/Main/IpodRuntime |
| 00:08:20 | Soap | could someone who cares...care to comment? |
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| 00:08:32 | jhMikeS | I just made the bitmap loader dither it 24->16 |
| 00:08:57 | preglow | Soap: looks good |
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| 00:14:28 | sneakums | is that 64M buffer patch still needed for the ipod video? |
| 00:15:37 | linuxstb_ | sneakums: yes |
| 00:15:44 | L | Looks good to me soap |
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| 00:22:15 | Soap | ty |
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| 00:29:47 | Angryman_H10 | Did anyone in here ever made a screen optimisation for any build taget for the pacbox plugin ??? |
| 00:30:50 | Angryman_H10 | Two (for) loops (screenbuffer) and i cant get them working... i am getting crazy... such a (i thought) simple task |
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| 00:32:49 | Soap | If someone was going to bet which Sansa has the best chance of being supported... |
| 00:34:47 | Paul_the_Nerd | The e200 series? |
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| 00:36:07 | Soap | Just curious. Wife wants a "blue" mp3 player. |
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| 00:37:08 | ze | Soap: get a good one then paint it |
| 00:37:08 | ze | :p |
| 00:37:33 | preglow | definitely... |
| 00:38:24 | Paul_the_Nerd | Soap: iPod Mini. :-P |
| 00:38:38 | L | Ipod Nano 2g |
| 00:38:39 | L | ! |
| 00:38:54 | Paul_the_Nerd | Those are probably further from Rockbox support than the Sansa e200 |
| 00:39:39 | Soap | Paul_the_Nerd - I would only get her a mini if I could replace the HD with a CF card. Just because the idea is so cool to me. |
| 00:40:14 | * | preglow goes on to wonder why a colour would be important... |
| 00:40:23 | L | Hmmm |
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| 00:40:39 | L | Colour is important to me as well |
| 00:40:40 | Paul_the_Nerd | preglow: Much like flames painted on the sides of cars, the right paintjob on an MP3 player can have a significant affect on performance. :-P |
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| 00:42:01 | L | Most ladies don't care about performance |
| 00:42:02 | L | lol |
| 00:42:24 | Soap | Me: "What about this one?" |
| 00:42:34 | Soap | her: "does it play my mp3s?" |
| 00:42:39 | Davide-NYC | I want to do testing for the missed sample bug reported here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6109 |
| 00:42:49 | Soap | Me: "This one has blah blah blah." |
| 00:42:50 | L | Hey, does transcoding from wave to flac reduce quality? It shouldn't right? Lossless to lossless |
| 00:42:56 | Soap | her: "Does it play my music?" |
| 00:43:00 | preglow | heh |
| 00:43:12 | Davide-NYC | petur is not in here right now, but I was wondering if this bug always happened or if it was on certain input only or what? |
| 00:43:27 | Soap | So, in her eyes they all do what she wants, and she likes everything blue. |
| 00:43:28 | Davide-NYC | does anyone know or do I have to jump in cold |
| 00:43:42 | L | Are you blue then Soap |
| 00:43:43 | L | lol |
| 00:43:56 | preglow | Soap: then she should find a player with a colour that really offsets all her other blue stuff! |
| 00:43:59 | preglow | like, yellow! |
| 00:44:14 | Davide-NYC | L: transcoding from lossless to lossless is still lossless |
| 00:44:22 | L | Great |
| 00:44:31 | L | Because foobar takes an eternity to rip my cd =/ |
| 00:44:41 | preglow | don't know if i'd use foobar to rip cds |
| 00:44:47 | Davide-NYC | guys −−> trying to get some info on testing the recording bug. |
| 00:44:48 | L | What would you use? |
| 00:44:53 | preglow | Davide-NYC: no idea |
| 00:45:00 | preglow | L: eac, i guess |
| 00:45:01 | Davide-NYC | 1-2 seconds of dropped audio is cruitical in my book |
| 00:45:01 | L | I'm trying to just get all my music to .flac format |
| 00:45:03 | Paul_the_Nerd | EAC is good |
| 00:45:06 | preglow | Davide-NYC: hell yeah |
| 00:45:19 | L | Awesome |
| 00:45:22 | L | I'll try EAC |
| 00:45:23 | L | Thanks |
| 00:45:28 | Davide-NYC | so I guess I'll have to flesh this problem out from scratch |
| 00:45:29 | preglow | maybe jhMikeS knows, he's probably the one that introduced the bug :-) |
| 00:45:36 | Davide-NYC | agreed |
| 00:45:47 | sneakums | i sure hope cdparanoia IV gets done sometime this decade |
| 00:45:56 | preglow | you can hope, yes |
| 00:46:03 | Davide-NYC | jhMikeS: what do you know about the missing sample bug that Petur reported recently? |
| 00:46:05 | L | And what would you use to transcode wav to flac? |
| 00:46:25 | ze | its not really transcoding |
| 00:46:35 | Paul_the_Nerd | It's just encoding. |
| 00:46:38 | Davide-NYC | right |
| 00:46:41 | Davide-NYC | WAV is native |
| 00:46:49 | Paul_the_Nerd | L: EAC can be set up to use a command-line FLAC encoder to do it all in one step |
| 00:47:04 | Davide-NYC | what about CDEX? I use that |
| 00:47:06 | sneakums | oh, there's a III 10pre0 out |
| 00:47:14 | L | Oh |
| 00:47:26 | L | I'm sorry, I don't really know the right terms heh |
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| 00:48:45 | L | So CDEX would be good to convert wave files to flac? |
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| 00:49:03 | vertic420 | I'd use EAC |
| 00:49:15 | sneakums | i'd just run flac.exe directly |
| 00:49:28 | Davide-NYC | ^^ |
| 00:49:37 | sneakums | flac -8 *.wav in the directory you want converted should do it, iirc |
| 00:50:04 | Paul_the_Nerd | Using EAC with the CLI encoder can do the tagging for you too though |
| 00:50:38 | Davide-NYC | Does anyone with an X5 care to contribute to the preliminary cross-coldfire codec-performance-test? |
| 00:50:57 | sneakums | oh yeah, tags |
| 00:51:03 | sneakums | forgot about that because i tag manually |
| 00:51:07 | Davide-NYC | I did the H1x0 and H3x0, all wee need is an X5 to complete the coldfire targets. |
| 00:51:19 | Davide-NYC | It would make me very happy. (Noone else cares) |
| 00:51:23 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
| 00:51:32 | Davide-NYC | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CodecPerformanceComparison |
| 00:52:30 | Davide-NYC | Also, does anyone know of a way to encode files using the iTunes AAC encoder without actually installing the degenerate misery that is iTunes? |
| 00:53:04 | L | LOL |
| 00:53:33 | Davide-NYC | Oh, and one last (annoying) request. |
| 00:53:35 | RogerBacon | LOL!!! |
| 00:54:09 | Davide-NYC | What code do I need to include in debug_menu.c such that the statusbar is displayed in the "view audio thread" screen? |
| 00:54:19 | RogerBacon | http://www.rarewares.org/aac.html |
| 00:55:02 | PaulJam | Davide-NYC: if you don't want to install itunes on your os you can istall it maybe in a virtual machine. |
| 00:55:13 | Davide-NYC | true |
| 00:55:23 | Davide-NYC | RogerBacon: iTunesEncode requires iTunes |
| 00:55:45 | Davide-NYC | am I missing it? |
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| 00:56:40 | L | Oh wow |
| 00:56:42 | RogerBacon | Davide-NYC : sorry ... |
| 00:56:42 | Davide-NYC | PaulJam: thanks for the idea but I may just try to recruit someone to encode the sample WAV for me. |
| 00:56:48 | L | Just when I was about to download the LAME mp3 encoder thing |
| 00:56:51 | L | Sourceforge goes down |
| 00:56:54 | L | What luck |
| 00:56:54 | L | lol |
| 00:57:04 | Davide-NYC | lol |
| 00:57:19 | RogerBacon | shi* |
| 00:57:20 | RogerBacon | lol |
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| 00:58:20 | Davide-NYC | there should be no difference in the resulting M4A file if it's encoded with iTunes on a Mac or in Windows, right? |
| 00:59:10 | Genre9mp3 | Davide-NYC: right |
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| 00:59:21 | RogerBacon | right i tink |
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| 01:03:05 | Paul_the_Nerd | Davide-NYC: The operative word is "should" ;) |
| 01:03:15 | Davide-NYC | true |
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| 01:04:05 | Soap | L - rarewares has 3.97b2 |
| 01:04:11 | Davide-NYC | hmm, maybe I go to the office (both OS), encode on both, and then do a binary file compare. |
| 01:04:13 | Soap | which is the version of LAME you want. |
| 01:04:30 | Davide-NYC | gotta go. Short visit today |
| 01:04:33 | Davide-NYC | later |
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| 01:04:45 | Soap | make sure to use the new vbr modes, they are excellent. |
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| 01:09:03 | L | Erm |
| 01:09:07 | L | Going back to that question |
| 01:09:12 | L | I have ripped my cd to wav format |
| 01:09:28 | L | So using the command line would be the best way to encode it to flac? |
| 01:10:04 | Soap | I, personally, think that reripping it in EAC properly set up to encode to FLAC would be easier, and saves you the step in the future. |
| 01:10:24 | L | Oh! |
| 01:10:32 | L | Let me try setting it up to do it for FLAC |
| 01:10:32 | Soap | plus EAC can feed FLAC the tags. |
| 01:10:44 | L | Awesome! |
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| 01:10:57 | Soap | which EAC can retreive from FreeDB. |
| 01:11:14 | Soap | (which you should proof, as FreeDB is full of typos) |
| 01:12:20 | Soap | (but better than typing it all in from scratch) |
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| 01:13:58 | L | Yup! |
| 01:15:09 | Paul_the_Nerd | Soap: I personally think that FreeDB shouldn't have allowed people to upload subjective tags such as Genre. |
| 01:15:30 | Soap | I can agree with that. |
| 01:16:03 | L | Hmm |
| 01:16:05 | L | Likewise |
| 01:16:23 | Paul_the_Nerd | The first thing I end up doing is either erasing or changing the genre field on like, every CD |
| 01:16:58 | Soap | Yea, if I'm going to use genre at all I use the most general one for the band from allmusic.com |
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| 01:17:55 | Paul_the_Nerd | I'm quite a fan of programs that harvest metadata from like, Amazon and such |
| 01:18:13 | hav0k | hi, can anyone help me take the bootloader off my ipod? i was reading the manual's part about it, but its a little vague |
| 01:19:10 | Paul_the_Nerd | Did you keep your bootpartition.bin? |
| 01:19:11 | Soap | check out the uninstall intructions in the wiki. |
| 01:19:27 | hav0k | i kept the bootpartition.bin |
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| 01:19:41 | Paul_the_Nerd | Then you just "ipodpatcher -w N bootpartition.bin" |
| 01:19:51 | hav0k | but when i run the command ipodpatcher, it says there's no such command |
| 01:20:01 | Paul_the_Nerd | Did you follow the official install instructions? |
| 01:20:06 | Paul_the_Nerd | No use of third party installers or anything? |
| 01:20:20 | nudelyn | if you don't care about the music etc. on it you can tell iTunes to Restore the ipod |
| 01:20:28 | hav0k | no, all straight from the manual |
| 01:20:39 | Paul_the_Nerd | Do you remember where you downloaded iPodpatcher.exe to? |
| 01:20:46 | Paul_the_Nerd | Because you *do* have to run it from that same folder. |
| 01:20:48 | hav0k | hmmm, well im pretty sure i still have all the music on my computer |
| 01:20:57 | hav0k | im on linux right now Paul_the_Nerd |
| 01:20:57 | Paul_the_Nerd | Assuming you were installing from windows. |
| 01:21:04 | Paul_the_Nerd | Ah, then you use dd instead |
| 01:21:07 | hav0k | i never downloaded ipodpatcher |
| 01:21:12 | hav0k | oh, okay |
| 01:21:15 | Paul_the_Nerd | Same commandline you used to dd rockboot.bin |
| 01:21:19 | Paul_the_Nerd | But instead bootpartition.bin |
| 01:21:24 | hav0k | okay |
| 01:21:49 | PaulJam | on linux you propably need to add a ./ in front of the comand |
| 01:21:58 | hav0k | why? |
| 01:22:56 | hav0k | wait, so i run the same line i used to put it on there? |
| 01:23:46 | Paul_the_Nerd | Basically, the last line of dd you did put rockboot.bin as the /dev/sda1 instead you want to put bootpartition.bin as /dev/sda1 (or sdb1 or whatever) |
| 01:24:02 | hav0k | ah ha, i gotcha |
| 01:24:42 | hav0k | what command do i run to find out where the ipod is mounted? |
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| 01:25:40 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:25:45 | Paul_the_Nerd | That I honestly don't know. |
| 01:26:26 | hav0k | haha, alright |
| 01:26:37 | * | Paul_the_Nerd is mostly windows based. |
| 01:26:48 | hav0k | yeah, thatts cool |
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| 01:27:06 | Paul_the_Nerd | But I've installed on linux a few times back before we had a windows install method, so I'm familiar with the basics. |
| 01:27:21 | Paul_the_Nerd | During bootloader testing and such |
| 01:27:25 | hav0k | i think ill just use itunes and reset it |
| 01:27:32 | Paul_the_Nerd | That's the easiest way |
| 01:27:54 | hav0k | alright, well thanks alot, i gotta reboot in windows, yikes! later, and thanks for the help |
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| 01:29:28 | L | Hmmmmm |
| 01:29:33 | L | The ripping is quite long |
| 01:29:36 | L | Is that normal? |
| 01:29:44 | L | I used to use Itunes to do it |
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| 01:30:00 | sneakums | EAC is slow but accurate (given the right settings) |
| 01:30:33 | L | Awesome |
| 01:31:20 | L | I can't stand 128kbps mp3 quality |
| 01:31:21 | L | =/ |
| 01:32:13 | vertic420 | 192 is minimum imho :P |
| 01:32:23 | Soap | yea, if you put EAC in secure mode it slows it down a lot depending on the drive. |
| 01:32:45 | vertic420 | I am ripping @ 3x ...so it's slow as well ~20 min for one CD |
| 01:32:53 | Soap | and if you go mp3, make sure to use lame 3.97 -vbr-new |
| 01:33:47 | vertic420 | my lame tag is: -V 2 −−vbr-new −−add-id3v2 −−pad-id3v2 −−ta "%a" −−tt "%t" −−tl "%g" −−ty "%y" −−tn "%n" %s %d |
| 01:33:56 | L | O_O |
| 01:33:59 | L | Serious? |
| 01:34:03 | vertic420 | yes |
| 01:34:07 | L | I am going at 0.3x |
| 01:34:09 | vertic420 | it's perfect for me |
| 01:34:11 | L | And you're going at 3x |
| 01:34:15 | L | LOL |
| 01:34:18 | L | Crappy drive I have |
| 01:34:19 | vertic420 | and I thought I was slow :P |
| 01:34:39 | Paul_the_Nerd | I usually got about 7x on my old computer |
| 01:34:56 | vertic420 | I disabled all error corrections and stuff.. |
| 01:35:00 | L | Oh |
| 01:35:05 | L | I have all those on |
| 01:35:15 | vertic420 | should be faster then :P |
| 01:35:18 | vertic420 | imo |
| 01:35:28 | amiconn | vertic420: Then you don't need EAC |
| 01:35:41 | vertic420 | not all at all :P |
| 01:35:42 | L | I'm anal about quality |
| 01:35:48 | amiconn | The point of using EAC is to ensure error free ripping |
| 01:36:03 | amiconn | That is slow. How slow depends on the drive, however |
| 01:36:09 | vertic420 | yea - but I disabled the stuff like the error correction C2 or what it's called from the CD drive |
| 01:36:15 | Paul_the_Nerd | If you want fast "decent" ripping, there's a lot of programs that can rip quite fast. |
| 01:36:17 | Soap | yea, my Lite-on rips @ 3x, my plextor at 5x |
| 01:36:27 | Soap | my pioneer at 1.5x |
| 01:36:36 | L | My crappy laptop dvd writer rips at 0.3x |
| 01:36:38 | L | Beat that |
| 01:36:39 | L | lol |
| 01:36:41 | vertic420 | hehe |
| 01:36:47 | vertic420 | dont do that on your laptop then |
| 01:36:49 | Soap | is the disc in bad shape? |
| 01:37:03 | amiconn | Using C2 error detection makes EAC _faster_ without sacrificing secure ripping - if the drive _properly_ supports it |
| 01:37:11 | L | I don't think so Soap, I rarely use it and even the cover is in mint condition |
| 01:37:29 | vertic420 | everybody told me to disable it amiconn |
| 01:37:34 | Paul_the_Nerd | Laptops are usually *very* bad choices for CD ripping |
| 01:37:37 | vertic420 | because they said the test lies a lot.. |
| 01:37:45 | L | I would do it on my desktop if I hadn't decided to fix my video card myself *cough* |
| 01:37:46 | amiconn | I recoomend reading the EAC instructions and FAQ |
| 01:37:57 | L | Why is that Paul? |
| 01:38:43 | amiconn | Paul_the_Nerd: I do rip on my laptop, and it works with bearable speed - if secure mode |
| 01:38:46 | Paul_the_Nerd | L: They just have an overall history of having less than reliable drives for that purpose. |
| 01:38:49 | amiconn | s/if/in/ |
| 01:39:09 | Paul_the_Nerd | amiconn: I rip on my laptop as well, using secure. But in general they've had a bad history. |
| 01:39:13 | Paul_the_Nerd | I would assume they've gotten better though |
| 01:39:17 | amiconn | The one bad thing about this laptop drive is that it sometimes locks up, when ripping several CDs in succession |
| 01:39:20 | * | Paul_the_Nerd hasn't tried out the drive in this laptop. |
| 01:39:41 | Paul_the_Nerd | Ooooh |
| 01:39:48 | Paul_the_Nerd | There's a patch in the tracker that runs the codec thread on th COP |
| 01:39:59 | amiconn | Ripping speed starts at ~4x and goes up to ~6x with EAC |
| 01:40:20 | L | Yeah my drive would sometimes fail to open when I want it to |
| 01:40:24 | L | It just locks up |
| 01:40:32 | amiconn | (after I've fixed a DMA problem in windows) |
| 01:40:35 | L | Have to do a powerdown to get it to work again |
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| 01:42:44 | Soap | L - the proper EAC settings for secure error-free rips |
| 01:42:45 | Soap | http://pastebin.com/804304 |
| 01:43:03 | dan_a | Paul_the_Nerd: It's not a very effective patch! |
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| 01:43:31 | Paul_the_Nerd | dan_a: Yes, but it still qualifies as "progress" |
| 01:44:06 | Soap | L - also installing the Nero Aspi layer and pointing EAC to it might very well fix your speed problems. |
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| 01:45:34 | amiconn | Soap: There is no such thing as a single best way to set EAC for ensuring error-free rips |
| 01:45:39 | amiconn | It all depends on the drive |
| 01:46:03 | L | OH |
| 01:46:05 | L | Awesome |
| 01:46:51 | L | I love the clipboard/pastebin thingy |
| 01:47:21 | Paul_the_Nerd | Pastebin makes life just a little bit better. |
| 01:47:30 | amiconn | Especially "Drive Has Accurate Stream feature" and "Drive caches audio data" should be set to the _correct_ properties of the drive used |
| 01:48:11 | amiconn | Setting these options wrong either sacrifices quality, or unnecessarily slows down extraction |
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| 01:49:57 | amiconn | I've set up EAC on various PCs, and the optimum drive settings vary a lot between CD drive brands |
| 01:50:29 | amiconn | If that wasn't the case, all those options wouldn't make much sense |
| 01:54:03 | L | Awesome! WIth the Nero ASPI Layer, it sped up to 4.2x |
| 01:54:22 | L | Okay it dropped to 0.3x again |
| 01:54:23 | L | LOL |
| 01:55:18 | * | jhMikeS is half asleep....some bug or something? |
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| 01:56:13 | godzirra | Howdy folks. |
| 01:56:21 | godzirra | I'm back from my jaunt to the data center. |
| 01:56:23 | godzirra | I hate data centers. |
| 01:56:32 | godzirra | Soooo questions. |
| 01:56:41 | godzirra | Does rockbox do video yet on ipod? |
| 01:56:50 | godzirra | (Last I asked it didnt, but that was months ago) |
| 01:56:58 | L | It can read the video element |
| 01:57:03 | L | It means there is no sound |
| 01:57:07 | godzirra | Does that mean it plays back video or no? :) |
| 01:57:07 | jhMikeS | Guess Davide-NYC took off... |
| 01:57:10 | godzirra | Ahh ok |
| 01:57:13 | godzirra | Bummer. |
| 01:57:13 | Paul_the_Nerd | It plays raw MPEG1 and MPEG2 compressed video streams |
| 01:57:23 | godzirra | Paul_the_Nerd: but no audio on those either? |
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| 01:57:40 | Paul_the_Nerd | If it's *just* a video stream, there's not even any audio to play. |
| 01:57:45 | godzirra | True |
| 01:57:58 | godzirra | But for all intents and purposes, you can't watch anything more than silent movies adequately? :) |
| 01:58:17 | Paul_the_Nerd | Give it time. Or better yet, work on it. :-P |
| 01:58:25 | godzirra | I would if I knew C :/ |
| 01:58:27 | godzirra | or C++ |
| 01:58:29 | godzirra | I only do perl |
| 01:58:39 | godzirra | though I've offered often to see if there's anything I can do to help with that... |
| 01:58:53 | L | amiconn : So I should use the auto-detect feature to see if my drive supports those options? |
| 01:58:58 | godzirra | I'm just thrilled I got rockbox on my 5.5 |
| 01:59:11 | godzirra | Oh, that leads me to my second question |
| 01:59:17 | L | Oh? |
| 01:59:19 | godzirra | with rockbox on the 5.5, I will have to continue to copy stuff via mtools, correct? |
| 01:59:21 | L | THe 5.5g is working already? |
| 01:59:23 | godzirra | It won't show up in windows correctly? |
| 01:59:25 | godzirra | L: Not really. |
| 01:59:28 | godzirra | L: Its possible, but not easy. |
| 01:59:39 | godzirra | Well, its not hard, its just not for the technologically impaired. |
| 01:59:51 | godzirra | It required hex editing your mbr |
| 01:59:59 | godzirra | and copying stuff via mtools in linux |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:20 | L | Anyway to fix your mbr if you break it? |
| 02:00:27 | L | I think it breaks the Ipod right? |
| 02:00:32 | godzirra | As far as I know just doing a standard restore works fine |
| 02:00:43 | sneakums | godzirra: is yours 30G or 80? |
| 02:00:47 | godzirra | Since a system restore just repartitions the drives. |
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| 02:00:49 | godzirra | sneakums: 30 |
| 02:00:59 | sneakums | ah |
| 02:01:06 | godzirra | has anyone done it on an 80 yet? |
| 02:01:15 | godzirra | I know a lot of people were doing it on the 30's |
| 02:01:20 | godzirra | For some definition of a lot. |
| 02:01:21 | sneakums | i tried, but the bootloader hands trying to read the MBR |
| 02:01:27 | sneakums | er, hangs |
| 02:01:29 | godzirra | Ahh, was that your post? |
| 02:01:33 | godzirra | on ata_read? |
| 02:01:34 | sneakums | yep, i'm pjdc on the forum |
| 02:01:37 | godzirra | Cool |
| 02:01:46 | godzirra | 80 or 30? |
| 02:01:49 | sneakums | 80 |
| 02:01:52 | godzirra | Ok. |
| 02:01:58 | godzirra | I know I had to change my mbr for the 30 to match his |
| 02:02:01 | sneakums | someone else tried with an 80 also and had no luck |
| 02:02:02 | godzirra | even outside of the changes he specified. |
| 02:02:10 | sneakums | oh, what else did you have to change? |
| 02:02:17 | sneakums | all i did was the partition table |
| 02:02:18 | godzirra | A few bytes were just not the saame as his. |
| 02:02:26 | godzirra | I made suire to match his exactly and it seems to work fine. |
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| 02:02:50 | myzar | so quiet :o |
| 02:03:53 | godzirra | We all stopped talkiong when you joined :) |
| 02:04:10 | godzirra | So for now I need to keep using mtools to copy stuff right? It won't work correctly under windows? |
| 02:04:12 | sneakums | where are the details on the rest of the MBR posted? |
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| 02:04:19 | godzirra | (I know it doesnt under linux) |
| 02:04:25 | godzirra | sneakums: page 4 iirc |
| 02:04:34 | godzirra | if its not page 4 its page 5 |
| 02:05:26 | myzar | you can actually use vmware |
| 02:05:48 | myzar | or possibly cygwin |
| 02:05:55 | godzirra | But I do have to use mtools still, correct? |
| 02:05:56 | myzar | i'm still trying to figure out the whole process on an 80gb |
| 02:06:04 | myzar | one second, i'll check for you |
| 02:06:04 | godzirra | If thats the case I'm fine with that. Just wondering if it is :) |
| 02:06:09 | sneakums | page 5 just has the partitoin table stuff, as far as i can see |
| 02:06:14 | godzirra | I just dont want to plug it into a windows machine and have it die or something :) |
| 02:06:18 | sneakums | checked page 4 too |
| 02:06:20 | godzirra | one sec sneakums |
| 02:06:24 | sneakums | godzirra: thanks |
| 02:06:49 | myzar | let's see |
| 02:06:56 | sneakums | godzirra: my plan for linux is to hack the usb-storage driver to report a 512-byte sector size for the ipod, which i hope will work |
| 02:06:59 | sneakums | because i like rsyncing |
| 02:07:02 | myzar | he first reformatted it with mkdosfs |
| 02:07:03 | godzirra | Kalthare's post on page 5 |
| 02:07:07 | godzirra | half way down the page |
| 02:07:18 | myzar | and used mtools to install rockbox and add music |
| 02:07:24 | godzirra | Here was my method: |
| 02:07:29 | godzirra | copy the mbr with dd. |
| 02:07:31 | myzar | then installed the bootloader by reversing bytes |
| 02:07:31 | amiconn | sneakums: Imho the proper solution would be to adapt the rockbox fat driver to work with 2048byte virtual sectors |
| 02:07:34 | godzirra | hex edit the mbr. (Don't put it back on) |
| 02:07:40 | godzirra | mkdosfs |
| 02:07:45 | godzirra | on the second partition |
| 02:07:46 | sneakums | amiconn: definitely, but right now i want to get it working any way at all |
| 02:07:53 | godzirra | copy rockbox on with mtools |
| 02:07:59 | godzirra | dd the hex edited bootloader. |
| 02:08:14 | godzirra | copy some music on and unplug the USB Cable. |
| 02:08:30 | sneakums | i'll give it another go tonight |
| 02:08:43 | sneakums | given where it's hanging though i do wonder if there's something odd about the 80G ata-wise |
| 02:09:21 | sneakums | also, my partition table does match the end result in Kalthare's big post there |
| 02:09:28 | myzar | there is |
| 02:09:32 | myzar | 80Gs have a bigger sector size |
| 02:09:36 | myzar | somebody said so on page 5 |
| 02:09:40 | myzar | 30s don't |
| 02:10:03 | sneakums | myzar: no, both the 30s and the 80s appear over USB to habe 2048 byte secors |
| 02:10:16 | sneakums | er, have |
| 02:10:34 | myzar | if the only change involves sector sizes |
| 02:11:05 | myzar | why has nobody edited rockbox yet |
| 02:11:09 | godzirra | myzar: they dont have bigger sector sizes. |
| 02:11:17 | godzirra | Sombody said they might. |
| 02:11:20 | myzar | do they? |
| 02:11:22 | myzar | did you check? |
| 02:11:24 | godzirra | they don't. |
| 02:11:27 | myzar | then what's the problem |
| 02:11:28 | myzar | in that case |
| 02:11:30 | godzirra | Someone else posted right afterwawrds that they dont. |
| 02:11:38 | godzirra | No idea :) |
| 02:11:40 | myzar | what is keeping us from properly using rockbox |
| 02:11:42 | myzar | installing it |
| 02:11:46 | myzar | and utilizing it |
| 02:11:52 | godzirra | Send me an 80gig and I'll try and get it working ;) |
| 02:11:56 | sneakums | myzar: the rockbox fat driver doesn't handle 2048bps filesystems |
| 02:11:57 | myzar | heh |
| 02:11:59 | myzar | no thanks =P |
| 02:11:59 | * | amiconn wonders why it would be easier to hack the linux usb storage driver than the rockbox fat driver |
| 02:12:04 | myzar | sneakums |
| 02:12:07 | amiconn | I think the opposite is the case |
| 02:12:07 | myzar | how big is said driver |
| 02:12:15 | myzar | i take it that it's open source? |
| 02:12:19 | godzirra | Is there a "code" option in the rockbox forums that I'm missing? |
| 02:12:29 | godzirra | I'm trying to get my text to be fixed width |
| 02:12:49 | godzirra | Nevermind |
| 02:12:49 | myzar | have any rockbox programmers been on? |
| 02:12:49 | godzirra | found it :) |
| 02:12:58 | myzar | it looks like they are all just rockbox users and not official programmers |
| 02:14:14 | sneakums | amiconn: i'm more familiar with linux than i am with rockbox, and since the 2k sectors rockbox patch doesn't seem to work, i thought i'd try this way |
| 02:14:48 | myzar | which way, sneakums |
| 02:14:59 | sneakums | the way we've been talking about for the past half hour |
| 02:15:01 | myzar | the ultimate goal is to write a patch for rockbox and the bootloader |
| 02:15:09 | myzar | so you can use it just as you can use the 5G |
| 02:15:20 | myzar | and not find alternate tools to write to it |
| 02:15:53 | sneakums | yes, and if i change usb-storage to report 512 byte sectors, i can use rsync like i always do |
| 02:16:12 | sneakums | assuming i can get the bootloader to even try to load rockbox, which it currently doesn't seem to do |
| 02:16:21 | myzar | somebody got that working |
| 02:16:27 | myzar | did you reverse everything? |
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| 02:16:33 | godzirra | Ok. I've made my contribution for the moment. |
| 02:16:55 | godzirra | Can anyone help me with wps files? |
| 02:17:09 | godzirra | for some reason the wps's I'm downloading from rockbox-themes.org don't seem to be loading images correctly. |
| 02:17:12 | godzirra | Its very odd. |
| 02:17:16 | sneakums | i know someone got that working |
| 02:17:41 | | Part Paul_the_Nerd |
| 02:17:54 | sneakums | but not on an 80G |
| 02:18:25 | sneakums | godzirra: you used the pre-built bootloader from the IpodBoot page, yes? |
| 02:18:48 | godzirra | yes |
| 02:18:53 | godzirra | I'm using a theme without album art. I think |
| 02:19:22 | * | amiconn wonders whether the 2K sector patch accounts for the maximum ata transfer size |
| 02:19:39 | amiconn | Could be that this is the problem with the patch |
| 02:19:45 | sneakums | by the way i think your dd lines shold say bs=512 count=1, because right now you're reading the whole disk |
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| 02:20:55 | godzirra | oops |
| 02:20:56 | godzirra | thanks |
| 02:20:59 | sneakums | amiconn: on my 80G, with a non-2K/s bootloader, it seems to hang in the first ata_read_sectors call in disk_init |
| 02:21:54 | godzirra | So anyone have any idea what may be up with my wps files? |
| 02:22:29 | * | amiconn cannot find such a patch in the tracker |
| 02:23:01 | sneakums | amiconn: it was posted to the mailing list: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2006-09/0052.shtml |
| 02:23:26 | amiconn | mrf |
| 02:23:40 | sneakums | whatever's going on with my ipod happens way before the fat code gets involved, though |
| 02:23:52 | sneakums | the ata_read_sectors call that hangs is the one reading the MBR |
| 02:24:13 | * | amiconn knew it |
| 02:24:18 | amiconn | The patch cannot work as-is |
| 02:24:35 | vertic420 | does anyone have the X5V (iaudio)? |
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| 02:27:42 | amiconn | sneakums: The you need to work backwards to find out where things start to go wrong |
| 02:27:50 | amiconn | Maybe ata init |
| 02:28:32 | myzar | amiconn |
| 02:28:39 | myzar | somebody mentioned debugging it |
| 02:28:52 | myzar | and finding exactly where it stops |
| 02:29:52 | sneakums | that was me |
| 02:30:07 | sneakums | but i wonder if lcd calls will perturb timings enough to make that method a waste of time |
| 02:31:05 | myzar | you mean it won't be precise enough for you? |
| 02:31:19 | myzar | i wouldn't know how you would go about debugging it |
| 02:31:34 | myzar | you can't exactly run a large debugger on an iPod and debug it one line at a time |
| 02:33:03 | sneakums | here's what i have in disk_init |
| 02:33:04 | sneakums | lcd_log("read MBR"); |
| 02:33:05 | sneakums | ata_read_sectors(IF_MV2(drive,) 0,1,§or); |
| 02:33:05 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK sneakums |
| 02:33:05 | sneakums | /* check that the boot sector is initialized */ |
| 02:33:05 | sneakums | lcd_log("check boot signature"); |
| 02:33:20 | sneakums | the first lcd message appears on the LCD, the second does not |
| 02:33:27 | | Quit |AhIoRoS| ("Abandonando, see you http://ahioros.homelinux.net") |
| 02:33:35 | sneakums | lcd_log() is just a small function that does the lcd_puts/lcd_update call |
| 02:34:23 | amiconn | I think you need to search lower, and earlier |
| 02:34:38 | amiconn | at lower level I mean |
| 02:35:23 | sneakums | you mentioned ata_init, maybe i should log exactly what it does? |
| 02:35:32 | myzar | a good idea |
| 02:35:38 | myzar | you don't know what it does but you're working with it |
| 02:35:43 | myzar | that's a bit bad, if you ask me :P |
| 02:35:50 | amiconn | If something goes wrong in the ata init, then it's rather liekly the first try to read something will also fail |
| 02:36:58 | sneakums | myzar: well, i'm not going to magically acquire the knowledge, so i may as well try |
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| 02:43:22 | myzar | heh |
| 02:43:27 | myzar | sorry sneakums |
| 02:43:29 | myzar | i dunno XD |
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| 02:51:23 | godzirra | Ok, is there a way to shuffle songs? |
| 02:51:28 | godzirra | My wife just switched to rockbox :) |
| 02:52:32 | vertic420 | yes of course.. |
| 02:52:40 | godzirra | how? |
| 02:52:42 | myzar | the best way is to make a playlist with all your music |
| 02:52:43 | vertic420 | Play mode - shuffle |
| 02:52:44 | myzar | and shuffle that |
| 02:52:47 | myzar | or do that ;P |
| 02:52:49 | godzirra | oh |
| 02:52:50 | godzirra | lol |
| 02:53:00 | myzar | since you cant play all of it at once |
| 02:53:04 | myzar | it wont shuffle all of it at once |
| 02:53:06 | myzar | so if you playlist all of it |
| 02:53:09 | myzar | it can shuffle all of it |
| 02:53:16 | godzirra | why cant it shuffle it all at once? |
| 02:53:24 | myzar | because it would need to scan all your music for that |
| 02:53:34 | myzar | the ipod firmware does the same thing |
| 02:53:50 | vertic420 | you can do that if you do a playlist will all of your music... |
| 02:53:59 | myzar | it takes everything in ipod_control, makes a temporary playlist, then shuffles it |
| 02:54:05 | myzar | but rockbox can have music in many folders |
| 02:54:11 | vertic420 | which is better =) |
| 02:54:28 | myzar | so it doesn't know where all your music is |
| 02:54:38 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 02:54:38 | * | vertic420 np: Soulsister - [ - #10] - The Way To Your Heart (03:46) @ 128 kBps |
| 02:54:45 | sneakums | godzirra: i usually do "create playlist" on my main music folder, which gives an m3u that i then play shuffled |
| 02:54:50 | godzirra | ok |
| 02:55:11 | vertic420 | sneakumsk: better explain how you do that =) |
| 02:55:15 | godzirra | nah |
| 02:55:16 | vertic420 | is it possible on the player? |
| 02:55:17 | godzirra | I know how to do trhat |
| 02:55:20 | godzirra | It is |
| 02:55:20 | vertic420 | ok :P |
| 02:55:24 | vertic420 | so.. |
| 02:55:29 | godzirra | I dont know how to shuffle the playlist after the fact though :) |
| 02:55:40 | sneakums | there's a shuffle toggle on the quick menu |
| 02:55:45 | sneakums | and an option somewhere on the main menu |
| 02:55:47 | vertic420 | hehe, load the playlist - go to Settingsmenu |
| 02:55:56 | vertic420 | Playmode / settings |
| 02:55:57 | godzirra | settings is the one you get to by hitting the menu key, right? |
| 02:55:59 | vertic420 | Shuffle... |
| 02:56:13 | vertic420 | some of those keys, yea :P |
| 02:56:16 | vertic420 | differs.. |
| 02:56:21 | sneakums | yeah, General Settings -> Playback -> Shuffle |
| 02:56:24 | sneakums | once you find that menu |
| 02:56:31 | godzirra | ok |
| 02:56:36 | godzirra | she's copying music now |
| 02:56:47 | godzirra | I never really used my h-120 with rockbox for much except playing folders. |
| 02:56:50 | godzirra | didnt shuffle or anything like that :) |
| 02:57:19 | godzirra | Who is Senab and is their build safe? |
| 02:58:18 | sneakums | amiconn: i had a look at ata_init, but it looks like it just write magic numbers to magic addresses based on the target, i'm not sure what there is that i could usefully check and log |
| 02:59:14 | Paul_the_Nerd | godzirra: Just like any supported build, it has its problems and its benefits. |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:12 | myzar | sneakums |
| 03:00:20 | myzar | those numbers and adresses probably have some relevance |
| 03:00:27 | myzar | possibly sectors? |
| 03:00:32 | myzar | or something in the ipod's memory |
| 03:01:43 | sneakums | myzar: yes, i assume they are the addresses where the ATA controller registers are mapped |
| 03:02:33 | vertic420 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=EkTpUxh8Vxc |
| 03:03:27 | sneakums | hmm |
| 03:03:46 | myzar | a good hypothosis |
| 03:04:02 | sneakums | the old ipod init stuff is after the ATA reset, but the video is now using the target tree, which calls device init before reset |
| 03:04:06 | myzar | but it still makes no sense as to why any of these adresses make ata_init fail |
| 03:04:30 | sneakums | myzar: my thought also |
| 03:04:56 | myzar | perhaps they added some checks |
| 03:05:01 | myzar | but no, that makes no sense either |
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| 03:05:19 | sneakums | the target tree stuff was put in CVs only recently, yes? |
| 03:07:00 | sneakums | unless the 80G iPod has the ATA registers mapped in yet a different place |
| 03:07:17 | myzar | another valid hypothosis |
| 03:07:24 | myzar | do you have a way of checking where they are? |
| 03:07:28 | godzirra | Paul_the_Nerd: Such as? |
| 03:08:18 | sneakums | i'm sure people have said that the hardware is the same in the 5.5G (apart from the screen and battery) |
| 03:08:28 | sneakums | but maybe they only checked a 30G |
| 03:09:18 | myzar | probably |
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| 03:09:27 | myzar | plenty of surprises, it seems |
| 03:09:44 | sneakums | surely some crazy person has dismantled an 80G ipod by now |
| 03:10:30 | myzar | i have. |
| 03:10:34 | myzar | you mean physically? |
| 03:10:44 | sneakums | of course thanks to U2, "dismantle" is a useless search term to use when it comes to iPods |
| 03:10:44 | myzar | i saw nothing different from a 30 (5G) |
| 03:10:47 | sneakums | yes |
| 03:11:03 | sneakums | still a PP5020 or whatever? |
| 03:11:08 | myzar | we're talking adresses and non-physical differences |
| 03:11:14 | myzar | oh, i didn't pay attention to minor details |
| 03:11:18 | sneakums | well, i want to know the model of portalplayer chip in it |
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| 03:12:31 | godzirra | ok, so can anyone help me with my wps problems? |
| 03:12:37 | godzirra | no wps loads images correctly. |
| 03:12:42 | godzirra | it seems to load some images but not others. |
| 03:12:46 | godzirra | err. |
| 03:12:47 | godzirra | no theme |
| 03:12:47 | godzirra | rather |
| 03:12:59 | godzirra | I just need to go to browse themes and choose my theme, and it should load everything, right? |
| 03:13:54 | sneakums | should do, yes |
| 03:13:57 | godzirra | in the top left corner, it says bground.bmp| |
| 03:14:00 | godzirra | or pbar.bmp| |
| 03:14:01 | godzirra | etc |
| 03:14:06 | godzirra | no matter which theme I choose |
| 03:14:23 | sneakums | that sounds like it doesn't recognise the directive the WPS is using to load the backdrop |
| 03:14:36 | godzirra | Why would that be? |
| 03:15:19 | sneakums | does it happen even with a rockbox.org build and theme? |
| 03:15:36 | godzirra | I'm using the latest daily rockbox.org build and iCatcher right now |
| 03:15:49 | godzirra | in the top left ocrner says: bg-320x240x16-u.bmp| |
| 03:15:52 | godzirra | *corner |
| 03:15:56 | godzirra | So i'm going with yes. |
| 03:17:11 | sneakums | sounds like a plain old bug to me |
| 03:17:37 | godzirra | Thats just weird though |
| 03:17:41 | godzirra | because some images get loaded... |
| 03:17:50 | godzirra | Like iCatcher has a background |
| 03:17:56 | godzirra | its light blue with some clouds or something behind it |
| 03:18:47 | pixelma | godzirra: do you have folder called "backdrop" in your .rockbox dir? |
| 03:18:51 | godzirra | yes |
| 03:18:53 | godzirra | wait |
| 03:18:55 | godzirra | "backdrop"? |
| 03:18:59 | godzirra | not "backdrops"? |
| 03:19:18 | pixelma | backdrops is right (typo) |
| 03:19:21 | godzirra | all good. |
| 03:19:22 | godzirra | Yes I do |
| 03:20:24 | pixelma | ah sorry.. was on the wrong trace... |
| 03:21:15 | sneakums | that target tree thing was a red herring, i got lost in all those nested ifdefs |
| 03:21:39 | Genre9mp3 | godzirra: Do you have an iCatcher folder with bmps inside ./rockbox/wps ? |
| 03:22:24 | godzirra | I think mcopy is not copying some folders for some reason. |
| 03:22:30 | godzirra | Genre9mp3: One sec |
| 03:22:49 | godzirra | Genre9mp3: no |
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| 03:23:09 | godzirra | Ah |
| 03:23:14 | godzirra | mcopy isn't recursive by default! |
| 03:23:16 | Genre9mp3 | Then that's the problem |
| 03:23:49 | Genre9mp3 | You don't have wps bmps at all |
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| 03:23:50 | godzirra | Yeah, my fault. |
| 03:23:53 | godzirra | Thank you guys |
| 03:24:52 | godzirra | so weird |
| 03:24:55 | godzirra | everything is slightly off |
| 03:25:02 | godzirra | with the text and everything |
| 03:25:46 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 03:25:51 | pixelma | do you have the fonts package? |
| 03:25:55 | godzirra | Ahh |
| 03:25:56 | godzirra | I bet not. |
| 03:26:23 | Genre9mp3 | godzirra: hehe... no fonts... no bmps :) |
| 03:26:32 | godzirra | Hey, I used to be on an h-120 |
| 03:26:38 | godzirra | I didnt have to worry about silly things like fonts and bmps :) |
| 03:26:59 | sneakums | i used to worry about my font, inasmuch as i found one i liked and then forgot about fonts |
| 03:30:22 | godzirra | ok guys... |
| 03:30:24 | godzirra | thanks for all the help. |
| 03:30:34 | godzirra | I'm going to go do something destructive like play warcraft for a bit :) |
| 03:31:02 | myzar | NO |
| 03:31:12 | myzar | do something destructive like get 80gb 5.5g ipods working! |
| 03:31:22 | godzirra | Sure |
| 03:31:27 | godzirra | mail me an 80Gb ipod. |
| 03:31:41 | myzar | pfft |
| 03:31:45 | myzar | do i look crazy to you? |
| 03:31:50 | myzar | ask a friend ;P |
| 03:32:07 | godzirra | you're trying to get -me- to get something working thats not perl or linux related. Yes, you're crazy :) |
| 03:32:19 | myzar | pfft |
| 03:32:28 | myzar | everyone knows perl, linux, windows |
| 03:32:28 | godzirra | My friends have better things to do than let me break their ipods :) |
| 03:32:30 | myzar | hardware, software |
| 03:32:32 | myzar | TCL |
| 03:32:34 | myzar | C++ |
| 03:32:51 | godzirra | So you're saying my skills are useless? *sniffs* |
| 03:32:58 | myzar | but not everyone can enjoy the sheer intensity of programming in brainf*ck |
| 03:33:00 | myzar | =P |
| 03:33:08 | sneakums | the only new portalplayer chip seems to be the 5024, which they say is for flash players, so i guess the 80G must be using a 5022 |
| 03:33:12 | myzar | of COARSE not godzirra |
| 03:33:17 | godzirra | lol |
| 03:33:21 | myzar | your skills are just... |
| 03:33:28 | godzirra | just stop right there. |
| 03:33:28 | myzar | the same skills 90% of the channel have |
| 03:33:30 | myzar | =P |
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| 03:33:33 | godzirra | heh |
| 03:33:35 | godzirra | Yeah, pretty much. |
| 03:33:37 | * | godzirra shrugs. |
| 03:33:41 | godzirra | Sorry :) |
| 03:33:47 | godzirra | I'm learning Ruby on Rails for now. |
| 03:33:55 | myzar | yay! |
| 03:33:59 | godzirra | Which doesn't help you at all. |
| 03:34:02 | godzirra | But I felt like telling you anyways. :) |
| 03:34:10 | myzar | (shhh. i'm trying to cheer you up!) |
| 03:34:25 | myzar | learn some large database |
| 03:34:29 | myzar | that's always useful |
| 03:34:30 | godzirra | lmao |
| 03:34:33 | godzirra | Nah. |
| 03:34:36 | godzirra | Mysql and Postgres work great. |
| 03:34:42 | godzirra | I don't -want- to have to work with something else. |
| 03:34:49 | myzar | FAILURE. |
| 03:34:58 | myzar | I COMMAND YOU TO LEARN ORACLE |
| 03:35:00 | myzar | IMMEDIATELY |
| 03:35:01 | myzar | POST HASTE |
| 03:35:03 | godzirra | :.( |
| 03:35:06 | godzirra | But... |
| 03:35:12 | myzar | DO IT OR ELSE |
| 03:35:15 | godzirra | I'm not strong enough to carry the 372 O'Reilly books on oracle... |
| 03:36:35 | myzar | carry one at a time |
| 03:36:46 | myzar | within the decade you'll learn at least a fourth of them |
| 03:36:51 | myzar | and at that point, i shall be pleased |
| 03:37:50 | * | godzirra just shoots myzar |
| 03:37:56 | godzirra | Sorry... i'm an american. I always take the easy way out. |
| 03:37:59 | godzirra | ;) |
| 03:38:02 | myzar | HA |
| 03:38:04 | myzar | the jokes on you |
| 03:38:23 | godzirra | s'ok, I'm totally comfortable laughing at myself :) |
| 03:38:23 | myzar | i know oracle so well i reprogrammed your bullet to be a new ipod |
| 03:38:34 | myzar | the world is a large database programmed in oracle, silly |
| 03:38:42 | myzar | if you learn oracle, you will be a GOD |
| 03:38:51 | godzirra | ok there matrix boy |
| 03:39:02 | myzar | pfft, matrix |
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| 03:39:06 | godzirra | Anyways, i'm off until tomorrow :) |
| 03:39:07 | godzirra | later folks |
| 03:39:18 | dirt_ | is 80gb video considered 5g, does rockbox support these? |
| 03:39:25 | godzirra | dirt_: 5.5g, and no, not quite yet. |
| 03:39:34 | myzar | we have some hacks cobbled together dirt_ |
| 03:39:38 | godzirra | dirt_: But there are a lot of people working on it. |
| 03:39:41 | myzar | but you need to have a minor in rocket science to attempt it |
| 03:39:45 | dirt_ | ok i installed 5g bin onto the 5.5 |
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| 03:39:53 | dirt_ | how do i go back to orig state with linux |
| 03:39:53 | godzirra | I'd expect a breakthrough to happen shortly. |
| 03:39:57 | dirt_ | ok |
| 03:40:49 | dirt_ | so returning the 5.5 to orig state? |
| 03:41:15 | dirt_ | ipodpatcher -w N bootpartition.bin in windows does it i read |
| 03:41:23 | dirt_ | would it be similar cmd with ipod_fw |
| 03:42:18 | dirt_ | dd if=bootpartion.bin of=/dev/sda1 |
| 03:42:19 | dirt_ | that? |
| 03:42:23 | dirt_ | will that do it |
| 03:42:43 | sneakums | yes, where bootpartion.bin is your backed-up ipod firmware |
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| 03:43:07 | dirt_ | glad i backed it up ;) |
| 03:43:23 | dirt_ | thanks guys.. i'll check the page for any updates, gl! :) |
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| 04:01:43 | afruff23 | slasheri, read this topic |
| 04:01:45 | afruff23 | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6866.15 |
| 04:02:01 | afruff23 | the "oneof" operator 128 byte patch is wrong |
| 04:02:09 | afruff23 | could you please fix it? |
| 04:02:20 | afruff23 | the correction patch is in that topic |
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| 05:06:48 | Davide-NYC | Question: Is there a way to have a boot menu on an iRIver H3x0? |
| 05:06:55 | | Quit sniper6_2004 (Client Quit) |
| 05:07:19 | Davide-NYC | rather than do the button combos have a default timer countdown or a button press. |
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| 05:08:21 | sniper6_2004 | hi people |
| 05:08:51 | sniper6_2004 | im a noob here and i need help i have a video ipod that i want to install rockbox on but have no clue how to do it |
| 05:09:13 | sniper6_2004 | anybody here? |
| 05:09:16 | myzar | how new is it sniper6_2004 |
| 05:09:43 | Davide-NYC | what OS do you use? |
| 05:10:02 | sniper6_2004 | just call me izzy and i dont know what generation it is but its a 30 gig vid ipod and im on windows xp |
| 05:10:15 | Davide-NYC | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation |
| 05:10:26 | sniper6_2004 | ive read the manual and i get lost on it |
| 05:10:34 | sniper6_2004 | i dont get the command part |
| 05:10:48 | sniper6_2004 | i hae the boot loader and the program but i am clueless as to what im doing |
| 05:10:51 | sniper6_2004 | have |
| 05:11:11 | Davide-NYC | slow down and go step by step. I do not have an iPod so can only be of limited help |
| 05:11:19 | sniper6_2004 | ok |
| 05:11:20 | sniper6_2004 | well |
| 05:11:29 | sniper6_2004 | im just trying to install this firmware |
| 05:12:05 | myzar | sniper6_2004. |
| 05:12:08 | myzar | how new is this |
| 05:12:15 | myzar | is it a brand new ipod? |
| 05:12:15 | sniper6_2004 | how new is what now? |
| 05:12:19 | myzar | the ipod! |
| 05:12:20 | myzar | . |
| 05:12:23 | sniper6_2004 | no not at all |
| 05:12:30 | myzar | so it's a 30 gigabyte ipod |
| 05:12:36 | myzar | it's a 5g i take it |
| 05:12:39 | sniper6_2004 | its probably about 6 months old and its a video ipod |
| 05:12:39 | myzar | is it black or white? |
| 05:12:50 | myzar | so it's a 5g ipod 30gb |
| 05:12:51 | sniper6_2004 | white, frost white |
| 05:12:57 | myzar | then there are no problems |
| 05:12:57 | sniper6_2004 | 30gb |
| 05:13:01 | sniper6_2004 | ok |
| 05:13:01 | myzar | installation is quite simple |
| 05:13:04 | myzar | follow the guide |
| 05:13:11 | Davide-NYC | Do you know how to open a command prompt? |
| 05:13:19 | myzar | it's quite easy |
| 05:13:21 | myzar | follow it line by line |
| 05:13:38 | sniper6_2004 | i type command in the run icon in my start menu |
| 05:13:44 | myzar | yes, cmd |
| 05:13:45 | myzar | not command |
| 05:13:47 | sniper6_2004 | yeah |
| 05:13:50 | Davide-NYC | myzar: slow down a bit |
| 05:13:54 | sniper6_2004 | ok |
| 05:14:06 | Davide-NYC | sniper you type "cmd" into the run line |
| 05:14:07 | myzar | slow what down. |
| 05:14:15 | Davide-NYC | that will open a command prompt |
| 05:14:21 | Davide-NYC | or a terminal window |
| 05:14:32 | Davide-NYC | with a command prompt in it |
| 05:14:32 | sniper6_2004 | hoe do i open a terminal window? |
| 05:14:37 | sniper6_2004 | how* |
| 05:14:42 | myzar | that is how you open it sniper6_2004 |
| 05:14:49 | myzar | bottom left, start menu button |
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| 05:14:51 | myzar | go to run |
| 05:14:54 | myzar | and type cmd |
| 05:14:54 | * | Davide-NYC that what I thought, now we're running at the right speed. |
| 05:15:00 | myzar | it opens a black window |
| 05:15:18 | sniper6_2004 | my run icon is gone |
| 05:15:20 | sniper6_2004 | dammit |
| 05:15:38 | sniper6_2004 | here lemme locate it its not in my start menu |
| 05:16:29 | Davide-NYC | sniprer read this and come back http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial76.html |
| 05:16:48 | Davide-NYC | or any other cmd.exe tutorial that suites your reading/learning style. |
| 05:17:23 | Davide-NYC | at the very least you need to know how to change directories and type. Past that is unnecessary |
| 05:17:33 | Davide-NYC | should be quick reading/learning |
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| 05:23:29 | esy | hey is it really hard to install rockbox on a 5g, how time would it take? |
| 05:24:26 | Davide-NYC | do you mean how *much* time? |
| 05:24:33 | sniper6_2004 | hmm i think im gonna go get the other laptop to work on |
| 05:24:34 | esy | yea |
| 05:24:35 | esy | i was typing fast |
| 05:24:45 | sniper6_2004 | mine wont even opent he control alt delete window |
| 05:24:57 | Paul_the_Nerd | esy: I can install it on a 5G in less than a minute. |
| 05:25:22 | Paul_the_Nerd | Following the instructions, as long as you pay attention, it shouldn't take more than 5-10, and that's taking your time. |
| 05:25:38 | esy | from a mac or windows? |
| 05:25:42 | Davide-NYC | I can agree with that based on what I'm reading |
| 05:25:46 | Davide-NYC | either |
| 05:25:47 | esy | b/c i know that you have to convert the HD to fat32 |
| 05:25:49 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 05:25:58 | Paul_the_Nerd | esy: Well the conversion can take a little more time. |
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| 05:26:13 | esy | true say, I'm going to take care of it tonight |
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| 05:26:19 | esy | thanks alot |
| 05:26:21 | Davide-NYC | ah, now we're talking backup, then format then install now we're up to I'd say the hour mark? |
| 05:26:29 | Davide-NYC | paul, you agree? |
| 05:26:53 | esy | I just bought the sucker, so there's no need to backup |
| 05:27:13 | Paul_the_Nerd | So, it really depends on how long it takes you to reformat |
| 05:27:21 | Paul_the_Nerd | The installation steps are quite quick, but that's dependent upon your computer. |
| 05:27:31 | Paul_the_Nerd | But that's not exactly something that requires you to stand around and do something |
| 05:27:37 | esy | do you think that it would be faster for me to do it on a windows system |
| 05:27:57 | esy | or do you mean by processor speed? |
| 05:28:02 | Davide-NYC | Hey Paul, is there a boot menu patch for easier choosing of whether to boot OF or RB on an H3x0? |
| 05:28:27 | Paul_the_Nerd | Davide-NYC: Nope. We don't really see any reason to have a menu, and I don't think anyone else has felt the need strongly enough to risk bricking one during development |
| 05:28:44 | sniper6_2004 | ok im gonna get my flash drive brb |
| 05:28:57 | Paul_the_Nerd | esy: Mostly computer speed. On a windows system it's a bit easier since you can just destroy the partition then have the Apple tool restore it. |
| 05:29:25 | esy | ok thanks alot appreciete it |
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| 05:34:06 | Davide-NYC | Is there a concensus that the H300 bootloader (v5) is the final revision? Or is a v6 in the works (or at least envisioned)? |
| 05:34:21 | sniper6_2004 | ok im all set up now |
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| 05:35:28 | aliask | Davide-NYC: v6 is certainly in the works. |
| 05:35:43 | aliask | Well, envisioned |
| 05:35:54 | Davide-NYC | what is it envisioned to address? |
| 05:35:56 | aliask | I'm not sure how much LinusN has done, but it's reasonably low priority. |
| 05:36:16 | aliask | Power insert will be RB handled, RTC alarm function, at least those two. |
| 05:36:20 | aliask | I don't think we'll get a menu. |
| 05:36:40 | Davide-NYC | menu is candy, the charging is necessary |
| 05:36:45 | aliask | Yes. |
| 05:36:51 | Davide-NYC | please explain RTC alarm |
| 05:37:08 | Davide-NYC | wake on RTC event |
| 05:37:10 | Davide-NYC | got it |
| 05:37:13 | aliask | RTC = Realtime Clock. ie. You can set an alarm for your player and it will turn on at that time, and yeah. |
| 05:37:22 | Davide-NYC | took me a sec |
| 05:37:28 | aliask | :) |
| 05:37:32 | Davide-NYC | (get it?, a sec? haha) |
| 05:37:43 | aliask | You're a joker you are. |
| 05:37:46 | * | Davide-NYC knows he's not funny |
| 05:37:57 | aliask | I make worse jokes and expect them to be laughed at :) |
| 05:38:17 | Davide-NYC | I just make 'em and duck |
| 05:38:28 | * | Davide-NYC ducks |
| 05:39:20 | JdGordon | anyone know anythig about tv tuners and linux? |
| 05:39:57 | sniper6_2004 | ok well i have the command prompt open what now? |
| 05:39:58 | aliask | MythTV |
| 05:40:16 | aliask | JdGordon: MythTV has a good wiki on the topic. |
| 05:40:20 | JdGordon | ok |
| 05:40:35 | JdGordon | im really after weather or not i can easily invert the colour on certain channels :D |
| 05:41:06 | Davide-NYC | sniper: follow the instruction in the wiki |
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| 05:41:33 | Davide-NYC | please trust that specifics questions will be answered but that no one will hold your hand through the whole process |
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| 05:41:39 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
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| 05:43:11 | Davide-NYC | jhMikeS: you around? |
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| 05:54:44 | sniper6_2004 | ok im trying out the ipodpatcher part in the command prompt and get no results |
| 05:54:59 | sniper6_2004 | what could be wrong? |
| 05:55:08 | myzar | any error messages? |
| 05:55:56 | Paul_the_Nerd | "no results" is very strange, as it should always say *something* be it error message or success message. |
| 05:56:09 | myzar | or something. |
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| 05:59:13 | * | Davide-NYC ducks |
| 05:59:28 | myzar | . |
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| 06:04:28 | Davide-NYC | Idea: shouldn't the Iriver Installation topic be divided into H1x0/H3x0 and H10(portalplayer) sections? |
| 06:04:47 | Davide-NYC | coldfire/PP divide |
| 06:05:00 | Paul_the_Nerd | It's old, and the H10 port is now. |
| 06:05:09 | Paul_the_Nerd | Nobody related to the H10 port seems to have bothered with improving it. |
| 06:05:18 | Paul_the_Nerd | And nobody with the iRiver port really goes back there these days. |
| 06:05:51 | Davide-NYC | So that forum section will slowly be usurped by H10 queries? |
| 06:05:57 | Davide-NYC | THat makes sense I guess. |
| 06:07:00 | Paul_the_Nerd | What we really need is division by installation process, but there's not really a way to do that yet either. |
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| 06:07:28 | Paul_the_Nerd | Since outside of (Archos) (H100/300) and (iPod) the remaining installation processes don't fall into categories |
| 06:08:53 | Paul_the_Nerd | Really the H10 and iAudio installation processes, once bootloader merging is possible, could be included in the H100/H300 installation process if they were simply made to use the fwpatcher tool. |
| 06:10:16 | Davide-NYC | I'm not familiar enough with the H10 and X5 installation procedures to follow exactly what you're saying but I get the gist. |
| 06:10:21 | Davide-NYC | *jist? |
| 06:10:23 | Paul_the_Nerd | gist |
| 06:10:25 | Paul_the_Nerd | I believe |
| 06:10:31 | Davide-NYC | hehe |
| 06:10:52 | Davide-NYC | http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gist |
| 06:10:56 | Davide-NYC | yup |
| 06:10:59 | Paul_the_Nerd | Basically, all of the installation patterns for H10, H100, H300, and X5 would be "patch your firmware, and then follow the official firmware upgrade procedure" I believe. |
| 06:11:24 | Davide-NYC | and currently it is not so. |
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| 06:12:53 | Paul_the_Nerd | Not yet. |
| 06:13:04 | Paul_the_Nerd | Just because neither the H10 nor the X5 have you patch the firmware, so no dual boot |
| 06:13:25 | Davide-NYC | Is fwpatcher for the H1x- and H3x0 the same file? |
| 06:14:27 | Davide-NYC | currently they are not. shouldn;t they have differing filenames to avoid potential confusion? |
| 06:14:47 | Davide-NYC | H1x0.fwpatcher.exe for example? |
| 06:15:08 | Paul_the_Nerd | There's only one fwpatcher.exe |
| 06:15:13 | Paul_the_Nerd | Where are you seeing multiple of them? |
| 06:15:29 | Davide-NYC | I did a binary file comparison |
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| 06:16:05 | Davide-NYC | let me try again. I may have been using an old file in the H1x0 directory |
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| 06:19:54 | Davide-NYC | hmm. now I'm worried. I have (and used) a version of fwpatcher.exe that differs from the current hosted version. |
| 06:20:08 | Davide-NYC | (for my H1x0) |
| 06:20:18 | Davide-NYC | the rockbox bootloader is v6 |
| 06:20:38 | Davide-NYC | do I need to re-patch and re-flash with this version of the fwpatcher? |
| 06:20:48 | * | Davide-NYC paranoid |
| 06:21:26 | Davide-NYC | the old file was from dec 2005 |
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| 06:26:26 | Paul_the_Nerd | No, if you're using bootloader v6 then you're fine. |
| 06:28:18 | Davide-NYC | So the resultant ihp_120.hex file is the same regardless of whether I use a dec 2005 fwpatcher or the current one, right? |
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| 06:28:50 | Paul_the_Nerd | Where is this new one? |
| 06:29:52 | Paul_the_Nerd | I only see one version of fwpatcher at the Iriverboot page, that says it's for both H100 and H300. |
| 06:30:05 | Paul_the_Nerd | The date on it is newer, probably because it was reattached right after the attack that wiped our wiki |
| 06:34:25 | Davide-NYC | I have one from dec 2005 that is not the same. I did a binary file comparison |
| 06:34:45 | Davide-NYC | that the one I used to patch the OF on my H1x0 |
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| 06:36:14 | sniper6_2004 | i wonder if i could find someone in chicago that could help me out with rockbox |
| 06:37:42 | Paul_the_Nerd | Davide-NYC: Yes, but it may have had a different H300 bootloader included back then. |
| 06:38:16 | Paul_the_Nerd | sniper6_2004: Seriously, if you actually paid attention when people asked you questions maybe you'd get help |
| 06:38:49 | Davide-NYC | Paul_the_Nerd: that's what I suspect as well. H300 development changes the file. So I should just chuck the old file and no need to re-patch&re-flash. |
| 06:38:59 | Davide-NYC | s/changes/changed |
| 06:39:07 | sniper6_2004 | oh well ive been multitasking alot working on 2 pc's trying to get results i got lost sorry |
| 06:39:11 | Paul_the_Nerd | Davide-NYC: If the bootloader version number hasn't changed, the bootloader hasn't changed. |
| 06:39:41 | Davide-NYC | aknowledged |
| 06:39:49 | Paul_the_Nerd | sniper6_2004: Well, if you don't want our help, don't ask in here. If you do, actually check to see if people respond to what you say instead of vanishing for 40 minutes. It's rather impolite to ask for help and then ignore it. |
| 06:40:23 | sniper6_2004 | ipod patcher is not recognized as an internal or external command |
| 06:40:52 | sniper6_2004 | thats what i get |
| 06:40:58 | sniper6_2004 | in the command prompt |
| 06:42:00 | Davide-NYC | is the wiki down? |
| 06:42:04 | Davide-NYC | or is it just me? |
| 06:42:34 | Davide-NYC | this page is down |
| 06:42:35 | Davide-NYC | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome |
| 06:43:52 | Davide-NYC | did you downlaod the ipodpatcher.exe file into the rockbox folder? |
| 06:44:25 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: sort of around... |
| 06:44:32 | Paul_the_Nerd | sniper6_2004: Did you download the file? |
| 06:44:34 | sniper6_2004 | yep |
| 06:44:38 | sniper6_2004 | i have it |
| 06:44:51 | Paul_the_Nerd | sniper6_2004: And you've changed directories to that folder in cmd? |
| 06:45:01 | sniper6_2004 | that's where im lost |
| 06:45:11 | Paul_the_Nerd | How? |
| 06:45:33 | sniper6_2004 | well i downloaded the patch file and i dont know what to do with it |
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| 06:47:14 | sniper6_2004 | im lost on how to change the directory |
| 06:47:29 | Paul_the_Nerd | Someone linked you a tutorial on how to use the command prompt. |
| 06:47:48 | sniper6_2004 | yeah i read that im using the command prompt |
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| 06:48:09 | Paul_the_Nerd | And the tutorial didn't cover how to cd? |
| 06:48:24 | sniper6_2004 | cd? |
| 06:48:38 | Davide-NYC | it does |
| 06:48:52 | Davide-NYC | sniper6_2004: you have to read, you have to try |
| 06:49:18 | Paul_the_Nerd | sniper6_2004: Did you actually *read* the tutorial? |
| 06:49:34 | Davide-NYC | to figure out how to use a command in the windows terminal type "/?" without quotes after the command you want to know about |
| 06:50:13 | Davide-NYC | for example to learn how to use the "change directory" command (CD) type "cd /?" in the command prompt. |
| 06:50:29 | Davide-NYC | ~~then hit the "enter" key |
| 06:50:41 | * | Davide-NYC one more then ignore |
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| 07:00:46 | Black-Syth | Hey everyone, I don't want to be a bother, but I have some newb-ish questions about rockbox. |
| 07:01:37 | Davide-NYC | good night all |
| 07:01:53 | Paul_the_Nerd | Depending on what your questions are you may or may not simply be referenced to the manual or other documentation, but feel free to ask |
| 07:01:58 | Davide-NYC | Black-Syth: ask something specific or you'll get silence |
| 07:02:12 | Davide-NYC | haha −− there it is ^^ |
| 07:02:15 | Davide-NYC | 'night |
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| 07:02:25 | Black-Syth | To get the most frivolous of the few, where can I download a solid copy of RockBoy? |
| 07:02:33 | Black-Syth | I can handle roms. |
| 07:02:46 | Paul_the_Nerd | It's included. |
| 07:03:05 | Black-Syth | Included? It should be listed in the Browse Plugins? |
| 07:03:11 | Paul_the_Nerd | No, it shouldn't be. |
| 07:03:12 | Paul_the_Nerd | It's a viewer. |
| 07:03:16 | Black-Syth | Ah. |
| 07:03:24 | Paul_the_Nerd | This is covered in the PluginRockboy wiki page, and probably its section in the manual |
| 07:03:39 | Black-Syth | ... and here is the manual documentation. |
| 07:03:51 | Black-Syth | I'll take a look. |
| 07:03:53 | Black-Syth | I'll be back. |
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| 07:07:02 | sniper6_2004 | yay i got a response |
| 07:07:04 | sniper6_2004 | ok |
| 07:07:24 | sniper6_2004 | so it says the rive is not an ipod aboring what can i do about that? |
| 07:07:30 | sniper6_2004 | drive* |
| 07:07:36 | sniper6_2004 | aborting* |
| 07:09:13 | sniper6_2004 | what can i do to help that? |
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| 07:09:22 | sniper6_2004 | i routed to the folder that the patcher is in |
| 07:09:31 | sniper6_2004 | and found the patcher but what now? |
| 07:09:41 | sniper6_2004 | it doesnt really specify in the manal |
| 07:09:47 | Black-Syth | It seems to me that the wiki page for pluginrockboy is a tad lackluster. |
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| 07:10:10 | Black-Syth | I'll look around some more, if I can't find anything, I'll be back. |
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| 07:10:21 | sniper6_2004 | is there a way to make the pc recognize the ipod as a drive? |
| 07:10:37 | aliask | Black-Syth: A good opportunity for you to help out. |
| 07:10:56 | aliask | sniper6_2004: It's an option in iTunes |
| 07:11:29 | sniper6_2004 | oh i need itunes? |
| 07:11:31 | sniper6_2004 | hmmm |
| 07:11:34 | sniper6_2004 | i didnt know that |
| 07:12:01 | aliask | Well, you shouldn't, but if it's not turning up as a drive, then you'll have to use it to do that one thing. |
| 07:12:16 | sniper6_2004 | well it shows up on my pc |
| 07:12:28 | sniper6_2004 | do i have to move the patcher into the ipod? |
| 07:12:47 | aliask | Hang on, so it turns up or not? |
| 07:13:08 | sniper6_2004 | well on mycomputer it is recognized but the command prompt doesnt recognize a drive |
| 07:13:22 | sniper6_2004 | well an ipod |
| 07:13:45 | aliask | You don't need to go onto the iPod drive at any stage in the cmd prompt. |
| 07:13:52 | sniper6_2004 | ok |
| 07:13:57 | aliask | Have you read the instructions? |
| 07:14:13 | sniper6_2004 | well i got the drive is not an ipod aborting response |
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| 07:14:19 | Black-Syth | Okay, sorry. |
| 07:14:30 | Black-Syth | I just need to know how to install and execute roms for RockBoy. |
| 07:14:34 | aliask | sniper6_2004: Ok, I'll take that as a no. |
| 07:14:43 | Black-Syth | I might be looking poorly, but I can't really find much. |
| 07:15:06 | sniper6_2004 | well ive got the instructions open and im reading but its a tad confusing |
| 07:15:10 | aliask | Black-Syth: Put them on your player and "click" on them. |
| 07:15:12 | sniper6_2004 | sorry im a moron when it comes to this |
| 07:15:17 | sniper6_2004 | ok |
| 07:15:24 | sniper6_2004 | on my ipod? |
| 07:16:10 | aliask | sniper6_2004: Look at Step 1b) on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation |
| 07:16:32 | sniper6_2004 | ok i got it |
| 07:16:36 | sniper6_2004 | i got it i got it |
| 07:16:55 | sniper6_2004 | its been recognized |
| 07:16:58 | Black-Syth | Well, where do I place the roms? |
| 07:17:05 | aliask | Anywhere. |
| 07:17:21 | Black-Syth | Oh. It's that simple? |
| 07:17:30 | Black-Syth | Shite. |
| 07:17:31 | aliask | Tis. |
| 07:17:33 | Black-Syth | Thanks a bunch. |
| 07:17:43 | Black-Syth | I feel completely foolish. |
| 07:17:45 | Black-Syth | Haha |
| 07:17:52 | Black-Syth | Peace out. |
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| 07:18:59 | sniper6_2004 | ok now im moving along |
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| 07:32:05 | sniper6_2004 | ok i now have rockbox running succesfully how do i acces my music? |
| 07:33:14 | aliask | Copy the mp3 (or whatever) files over to the player, and then play them by selecting them. |
| 07:34:04 | sniper6_2004 | ok sweet thanks! |
| 07:34:21 | aliask | I strongly suggest you read the manual in full. |
| 07:34:32 | sniper6_2004 | yeah im working on it |
| 07:34:47 | aliask | Goodo. Enjoy rockbox. |
| 07:36:05 | sniper6_2004 | do i drag and drop my music into the main folder? |
| 07:36:14 | aliask | What main folder? |
| 07:36:36 | sniper6_2004 | well where do i put my music? |
| 07:37:31 | aliask | On the iPod drive. |
| 07:37:35 | sniper6_2004 | ok |
| 07:37:38 | aliask | Anywhere. |
| 07:37:42 | sniper6_2004 | well can i drag and drop it in? |
| 07:37:49 | aliask | If you feel like it. |
| 07:37:51 | sniper6_2004 | ok |
| 07:38:05 | sniper6_2004 | is it okay if its in folders seperating albums? |
| 07:38:17 | sniper6_2004 | since it is a file browser? |
| 07:38:25 | aliask | Yes, that's fine. You can have as many folders as you like. |
| 07:39:11 | sniper6_2004 | ok its now in the works |
| 07:39:13 | sniper6_2004 | thank you |
| 07:39:18 | aliask | np |
| 07:39:34 | sniper6_2004 | sorry for the hounding with questions you've been a really great help |
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| 07:43:49 | Black-Syth | Last question. |
| 07:43:57 | Black-Syth | It says that the "record button" is the start button for rockboy. |
| 07:44:05 | Black-Syth | What the hell is the record button on the iPod? |
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| 07:45:27 | sniper6_2004 | well thanks again aliask you've been a great help im gonna sign off for now and tinker some |
| 07:45:38 | aliask | sniper6_2004: Well good luck with it all |
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| 07:45:50 | sniper6_2004 | alright, thanks goodnight |
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| 07:45:57 | aliask | Black-Syth: There is no record button on the iPod, I guess the documentation is out of date |
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| 07:46:41 | Black-Syth | Or, at least what should I do with the button layout. |
| 07:46:44 | Black-Syth | ? |
| 07:47:04 | aliask | Hang on, I'm looking in the code to see what button it is. |
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| 07:52:31 | aliask | Black-Syth: Erm, from what I can see, it doesn't look like rockboy works on the iPods... but I think that must be wrong. |
| 07:52:53 | Black-Syth | Yeah, I've gotten it to work, but there aren't enough buttons, really. |
| 07:52:55 | Black-Syth | I guess. |
| 07:53:28 | Black-Syth | I wonder if you can program combo buttons. |
| 07:53:34 | Black-Syth | Like, play + something is this. |
| 07:53:35 | aliask | Yeah, you can. |
| 07:53:44 | Black-Syth | Lemme try this. |
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| 07:57:53 | Black-Syth | Well, it works but it sucks. |
| 07:58:00 | Black-Syth | I can't wait for this to get better, though. |
| 07:58:12 | Black-Syth | Looks like it's got a lot of potential. |
| 07:58:30 | Black-Syth | I've got Donkey Kong Country running right now, it's running like crap, and the buttons are hard to figure out. |
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| 07:59:06 | aliask | Yeah, it certainly isn't running realtime yet, and I think the fact that iPods have so few buttons to begin with will make getting the buttons worked out hard. |
| 07:59:47 | Black-Syth | Yeah, still nifty. |
| 07:59:53 | Black-Syth | I'm sure I'll find some use for it. |
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| 08:00:04 | Black-Syth | Oh, can I get video onto rockbox without Linux? |
| 08:00:34 | aliask | Sure, but you need to convert the video |
| 08:00:39 | aliask | And there's no sound. |
| 08:01:04 | Black-Syth | Meh. |
| 08:01:06 | Black-Syth | I'll pass. |
| 08:01:21 | aliask | You can grab one from here: http://download.rockbox.org/mpeg/ |
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| 08:01:42 | Black-Syth | Yeah, but it's worthless to me if there's no sound. |
| 08:02:02 | aliask | Yeah, it's novelty factor status only at the moment. |
| 08:02:35 | Black-Syth | For sure. |
| 08:02:40 | Black-Syth | RockDoom is rocking my socks though. |
| 08:03:01 | Black-Syth | I've got one of those FM transmitters, and you can hear yourself play on your car stereo. |
| 08:03:03 | aliask | I've clocked doom shareware on it, so it's definitely playable. |
| 08:03:13 | aliask | Haha, awesome |
| 08:03:22 | Black-Syth | Given, it's only doom, but doom is entertaining, and the controls are actually alright. |
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| 08:04:08 | myzar | weirdo :D |
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| 08:04:31 | Black-Syth | What else is super nifty for an iPod? |
| 08:05:05 | aliask | Customisable WPS screens... a few games... |
| 08:05:22 | myzar | rockbox is nifty |
| 08:05:27 | Black-Syth | Hmmm... screen savers maybe? |
| 08:05:40 | aliask | No screensavers. |
| 08:06:18 | myzar | there already is such a thing as screensavers |
| 08:06:21 | myzar | for the video ipod |
| 08:06:22 | myzar | apparently |
| 08:06:28 | myzar | after 2 min, it loops a video file |
| 08:06:30 | myzar | i found it on google |
| 08:06:40 | aliask | Yeah, the Demo folder trick, kinda cool |
| 08:07:11 | Black-Syth | Eh? |
| 08:07:33 | Black-Syth | Well, nevermind, thanks a bunch guys. |
| 08:07:37 | aliask | 5g ipods check for a video file in a particular place, and loop it as a screensaver after 2 mins. |
| 08:07:39 | Black-Syth | I'm working on making this thing pretty cool. |
| 08:07:46 | Black-Syth | I'll be in here once in a while, see you around. |
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| 08:08:52 | sneakums | mkdir foo |
| 08:09:01 | sneakums | wrongwindow.com |
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| 08:27:54 | sneakums | hmm, on my 80G ipod the first half of the ATA init just ends up inl'ing and outl'ing 0xC3000028 twice, because the bits it's trying to change are already set or unset |
| 08:28:07 | sneakums | 0x20150020 |
| 08:28:29 | sneakums | ata_device_init, that is |
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| 08:46:40 | sneakums | i guess 0x20 being set does a reset of ide1 (going by ipodlinux's docs) |
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| 08:56:26 | webguest73 | pondlife: are you here? |
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| 09:01:51 | webguest73 | pondlife: ping |
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| 09:05:36 | * | petur just had music skipping three times during a 15 minute bikeride (mp3 320kbps VBR) |
| 09:07:27 | pondlife | Back now |
| 09:07:53 | webguest73 | pondlife: reg. FS #6145 (semitone pitch): we cannot have pitch offset since it's the same "dimension". I.e. you can start at 100.0% and make semitone steps. Or you can pitch to e.g. 101.2% in normal mode and then toggle the mode and make semitone steps. So there are no "fixed" semitone levels. |
| 09:08:33 | pondlife | I was thinking you could have a pitch offset measured in semitones as well as the variable pitch. |
| 09:08:59 | pondlife | Would it not be possible to calcualate the effective % on the fly? The user would only see a % of course... |
| 09:09:10 | pondlife | But it would let you get back to 100% |
| 09:10:27 | webguest73 | pondlife: with the last patch, we already get back exactly at 100.0% |
| 09:11:28 | pondlife | OK, don't worry then... |
| 09:11:36 | pondlife | 'twas just a thought |
| 09:13:48 | webguest73 | pondlife: OK, I'm relaxed :-) |
| 09:14:41 | * | dan_a listens to an MP3 on an iPod, with peakmeters but no skipping |
| 09:15:01 | Paul_the_Nerd | I've done that before. |
| 09:15:02 | Paul_the_Nerd | :-P |
| 09:15:12 | Paul_the_Nerd | But the Nano was a little less sensitive to them. |
| 09:15:28 | dan_a | Paul_the_Nerd: I've never listened to an MP3 without skipping on Rockbox |
| 09:15:36 | Paul_the_Nerd | Don't you have a 3G? |
| 09:15:39 | dan_a | Yes |
| 09:15:45 | Paul_the_Nerd | Which is like... the worst you can get. |
| 09:15:49 | dan_a | Yes |
| 09:15:54 | Paul_the_Nerd | Did you do something to make it work now? |
| 09:16:26 | dan_a | I've got the codec thread running on the second processor, without turning the cache off |
| 09:16:42 | * | dan_a does a little dance |
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| 09:16:57 | Paul_the_Nerd | WOO! |
| 09:17:07 | Paul_the_Nerd | And I take it it's a significant improvement? |
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| 09:17:39 | Paul_the_Nerd | Does it boost and unboost the cores in sync, or is it just permanently clocked at full speed right now? |
| 09:17:46 | dan_a | MP3s would skip about once every 5 seconds with peakmeters before |
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| 09:18:01 | dan_a | I've not worked out how the boosting will be working |
| 09:18:11 | dan_a | I suspect it's incorrect, though |
| 09:21:32 | dan_a | Time for work |
| 09:22:36 | Bagder | oh, openneo commits |
| 09:22:49 | Bagder | "Added replaygain support" |
| 09:22:51 | Bagder | :-) |
| 09:23:30 | Paul_the_Nerd | My understanding was that the 2nd core can never be faster than the first one. |
| 09:23:33 | Bagder | "Added APE tag parsing" |
| 09:24:36 | Paul_the_Nerd | If this is true, wouldn't it be better for the second core to be the "main" core for UI stuff, left at whatever speed is appropriate, and the first one then boosts and unboosted for codec stuff? |
| 09:25:12 | aliask | Paul_the_Nerd: I think they are both scaled at the same time. |
| 09:25:26 | aliask | Ie. They always have the same clock. |
| 09:25:44 | Paul_the_Nerd | aliask: I remember someone telling me they could be scaled independently but core 2 couldn't be faster than core 1, or something. |
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| 09:26:11 | aliask | By no means take what I say as definite, I don't really remember, but that's the way I thought it was. |
| 09:26:23 | Paul_the_Nerd | Well, I could very very easily be wrong as well. ;) |
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| 09:39:45 | dan_a | Paul_the_Nerd: I've heard that about the clocking, but I'm not sure if anybody knows how to do it |
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| 09:40:12 | dan_a | And I think I agree about running the UI on the COP |
| 09:40:18 | sneakums | i like how th forum preview correctly escapes < and >, but the forum itself doesn't |
| 09:40:34 | bluebrother | do we have something to check if a file is existent? |
| 09:40:39 | bluebrother | like is_file in php? |
| 09:41:37 | Bagder | bluebrother: you can open() or filesize() it |
| 09:41:55 | bluebrother | do I need a fd for filesize? |
| 09:42:03 | Bagder | ah yes |
| 09:42:17 | bluebrother | I found an ineffiency in theme loading but I was hoping I don't need to open the file |
| 09:42:57 | bluebrother | when loading themes from the "Browse Themes" menu the wps is loaded twice. Pretty inefficient for wps with a lot of images |
| 09:43:33 | Paul_the_Nerd | sneakums: Yes, I would like to fix that but I haven't found a good (read "Lazy enough for me") way yet. |
| 09:45:18 | sneakums | so far on the 80G ATA thing i've come up with: the value of the configuration register is 0x20150020 - no idea if that's significant |
| 09:45:50 | sneakums | and ata_read_sectors gets into copy_read_sectors before it hangs |
| 09:47:10 | bluebrother | is 0 a valid file descriptor number? |
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| 09:50:41 | sneakums | hmm, actually i didn't instrument some branches... |
| 09:50:44 | * | sneakums rebuilds |
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| 09:54:41 | sneakums | weird |
| 09:54:49 | sneakums | the hard reset sequence isn't working |
| 09:55:01 | Paul_the_Nerd | Menu+Select? |
| 09:55:09 | sneakums | yep |
| 09:55:13 | sneakums | had to do it a few times |
| 09:55:51 | sneakums | also i was wrong, it seems copy_read_sectors is failing, and it's hanging in perform_soft_reset |
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| 09:58:06 | sneakums | it seems copy_read_sectors is returning STATUS_ERR |
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| 10:04:47 | sneakums | one of the SET_REG calls inside perform_soft_reset must be hanging, because it doesn't get as far as the wait_for_rdy loop |
| 10:10:52 | sneakums | huh |
| 10:11:04 | sneakums | perform_soft_reset seems to be hanging in sleep() |
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| 10:16:45 | daurnimator | img, its JdGordon |
| 10:17:08 | JdGordon | tis I! |
| 10:17:12 | JdGordon | with a new toy |
| 10:17:21 | daurnimator | a wrist? |
| 10:17:29 | JdGordon | nope |
| 10:17:32 | JdGordon | a tv card |
| 10:18:06 | daurnimator | dvb-t? |
| 10:18:18 | JdGordon | cept, i lost my rabbit ears, so i have to find someone elses set before i can get it giong properly :'( (gonna move it downstairs and connect it to the optus cable soon) |
| 10:18:23 | JdGordon | nope, cheapy analog |
| 10:18:55 | daurnimator | you suck! |
| 10:19:05 | daurnimator | optus... ew |
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| 10:26:52 | LinusN | bluebrother: if the wps loading patch works, i think you should commit it |
| 10:27:07 | sneakums | i misspoke slightly: copy_read_sectors doesn't return anything (it's void), but status & STATUS_ERR is true |
| 10:28:55 | bluebrother | LinusN, it works for me −− but I haven't tested on other devices than my player, so I decided to make it a patch first |
| 10:29:21 | LinusN | the same code is used for all models, so i don't think there would be any problems |
| 10:29:35 | bluebrother | but as it works for me I can commit it and wait for bugs later :) |
| 10:29:41 | LinusN | exactly |
| 10:29:55 | bluebrother | then I'll go for it |
| 10:30:39 | pondlife | Any brave souls want to try a radical playback patch? |
| 10:30:53 | pondlife | Take 1 is up at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6119 - scroll down a bit |
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| 10:31:26 | pondlife | Slasheri: you were looking for this, maybe...;) |
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| 10:33:38 | LinusN | pondlife: what is to test? looks like it solves one bug and creates 3 new ones |
| 10:34:19 | pondlife | It simplifies playback lots. It only creates one new bug, the others are already in existence in some form |
| 10:34:46 | pondlife | It's a work in progress - any feedback welcome. |
| 10:35:34 | pondlife | I hope to fix the rewind problem soon, but Real Life means it won't probably be today |
| 10:36:48 | pondlife | It ,may also fix the "white noise" issue, but I've not been ablke to repro that, so can't really say |
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| 10:48:51 | dan_a | Damn - I'm still getting some playback skips even with the codec thread on the coprocessor |
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| 10:56:03 | linuxstb | dan_a: Nice work getting the COP running. How have you dealt with the cache? |
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| 10:59:46 | dan_a | linuxstb: For now I've just put everything I need to in IRAM, but I plan to do proper flushing/invalidating |
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| 11:00:59 | dan_a | I found something that I'd missed on the PP502X code last time, too - so this patch might work for you |
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| 11:02:29 | linuxstb | dan_a: OK, I'll try and find time to try it. What was missing? |
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| 11:03:55 | dan_a | I had some of the magic in system.c just being performed by the CPU for the PP5002, but by both processors for the 5020 |
| 11:04:10 | linuxstb | Is anyone with a Nano around? |
| 11:04:22 | linuxstb | dan_a: I'm about to try it now. |
| 11:04:39 | dan_a | Thanks :) |
| 11:07:48 | * | Paul_the_Nerd is around |
| 11:08:11 | Paul_the_Nerd | I'm incapable of making builds on this machine at the moment, but I can probably dig up my Nano and cable if I'm needed to test something |
| 11:08:29 | linuxstb | I just want you to go into diagnostics mode and see if you can see a "line-in" test. |
| 11:09:10 | linuxstb | See the last comment here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6096 |
| 11:09:28 | Paul_the_Nerd | linuxstb: There is a test entitled "LineIn" in it yes |
| 11:09:48 | linuxstb | Any idea what it's doing? i.e. could it be line-in recording? |
| 11:10:01 | Paul_the_Nerd | If you select it though, it says "Press Action" then "MENU to continue" and that is all |
| 11:11:03 | Paul_the_Nerd | I don't know if it even tests anything, or if they just loaded the same diagnostics code because they were lazy. |
| 11:11:42 | linuxstb | On the 2nd Gen nano, there's a recording test that records and then plays back a short (about 1 second) clip of audio from the line-in. |
| 11:12:10 | linuxstb | So it sounds like the 1st gen nano test isn't the same as that. |
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| 11:12:43 | Paul_the_Nerd | Hm. On this one, as soon as you select the test it asks you to press action, then immediately says to press MENU. There's no sort of delay. |
| 11:13:49 | Paul_the_Nerd | I wouldn't know how to find out if it's actually doing anything. |
| 11:15:12 | blueworm | sneakums are you running the DrMoreau patch when the 80Gb hangs on boot? |
| 11:15:44 | dj-fu | o0 |
| 11:15:52 | dj-fu | you still need someone with a nano? |
| 11:15:54 | dj-fu | I have a 1st gen 4gb |
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| 11:18:40 | linuxstb | dan_a: Should I be seeing a main thread running on the COP in the View OS Stacks debug menu? |
| 11:18:53 | dan_a | linuxstb: You should |
| 11:19:29 | linuxstb | I don't :( |
| 11:20:58 | dan_a | Oh, swearwords. |
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| 11:22:32 | dan_a | The COP must be hanging at some point before it runs init_threads() |
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| 11:28:52 | dan_a | linuxstb: in firmware/system.c, try adding "COP_INT_EN |= TIMER1_MASK" in set_cpu_frequency after "CPU_INT_EN |= TIMER1_MASK" |
| 11:29:26 | linuxstb | dan_a: I think your Sansa commit broke the H10 bootloader build (even though it's green in the build table). |
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| 11:32:26 | dan_a | linuxstb: What makes you say that? |
| 11:34:24 | linuxstb | Err, the build log? |
| 11:34:51 | linuxstb | Plus I know that they need crt0-pp.o included. |
| 11:39:43 | sneakums | blueworm: no, no patch |
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| 11:42:50 | linuxstb | dan_a: The Sansa bootloader also gives the same warning as the H10 bootloader now. All that patch did was to make the bootloader not use crt0-pp.S - i.e. it's not linked into the bootloader any more. Looking at bootloader/bootloader.map, execution now just starts directly at the main() function in bootloader/e200.c |
| 11:43:53 | linuxstb | So it looks like the Sansa was freezing somewhere in crt0-pp.S - which needs to be fixed, rather than avoided... |
| 11:45:05 | blueworm | I get the you need to recover with itunes message if I dont use the patch. |
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| 11:46:24 | sneakums | blueworm: i am using the ipod_fw patch, but no patch to rockbox itself |
| 11:46:41 | blueworm | thats what I meant |
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| 11:46:56 | sneakums | ah |
| 11:46:58 | blueworm | sorry |
| 11:47:01 | sneakums | no worries |
| 11:47:43 | blueworm | Is the patch still as is, or have you changed anything? |
| 11:48:09 | sneakums | not a thing |
| 11:49:14 | sneakums | that is, no changes |
| 11:49:37 | blueworm | I also tried building my own bootloader.bin patching the ipod_fw.c in the ../tools dir ... no dice. |
| 11:50:38 | sneakums | using the bootloader from the IpodBoot wiki page and the patched ipod_fw, i got the same hang - four lines of info and then nothing |
| 11:51:07 | linuxstb | What's the last line displayed? |
| 11:51:08 | dan_a | linuxstb: So all those "#if(n)def BOOTLOADER" for iPod in crt0-pp.S aren't necessary? |
| 11:51:16 | sneakums | the disk model |
| 11:51:20 | blueworm | sounds familiar ;) |
| 11:52:30 | linuxstb | dan_a: Yes, they are necessary. The difference is that the ipod bootloader references symbols in crt0-pp.S, so the linker includes it automatically, so it shouldn't be manually included in boot.lds |
| 11:52:43 | blueworm | cant remember brb |
| 11:53:13 | linuxstb | dan_a: But all other bootloaders need it manually included - hence the #ifndef IPOD_ARCH. |
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| 11:53:51 | dan_a | linuxstb: Ah, I understand now |
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| 11:59:39 | linuxstb | sneakums: You could try changing disk_mount() to hard-code the partition Rockbox is using - maybe the probing is causing the problem. |
| 11:59:51 | linuxstb | (in firmware/common/disk.c) |
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| 12:00:20 | sneakums | linuxstb: the hang seems to be happening when it tries to read the MBR |
| 12:00:22 | blueworm | IPOD version: 0xFFFFFFFF\n TOSHIBA MK8010GAH\n |
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| 12:00:36 | sneakums | linuxstb: i posted some details to rockbox-dev |
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| 12:02:58 | linuxstb | sneakums: OK, I didn't see that.... |
| 12:03:30 | sneakums | it's the very first disk read it tries to do; amiconn suggests that the ata init may be at fault |
| 12:03:45 | sneakums | but beyond dumping the contents of the status register i have on idea how to debug that further |
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| 12:56:51 | Jorisleem | hello? |
| 12:57:08 | Jorisleem | i have a quastion |
| 12:57:35 | Jorisleem | i have a ipod Gen3, is there a a way to fix the buffer underun? |
| 12:58:05 | Jorisleem | every serval seconds the music stops that drive's me nuts |
| 12:58:22 | dan_a | Jorisleem: When you are playing music, press "menu" to go back to the menu, and that makes it a lot better |
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| 12:58:45 | dan_a | We are working on a proper solution |
| 12:58:56 | Jorisleem | oohw oke i trie it now |
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| 13:00:19 | Jorisleem | and the menu is Very slow |
| 13:00:32 | Jorisleem | becuase the buffer underuns ore not? |
| 13:01:32 | dan_a | That is because it is trying not to underrun |
| 13:01:39 | Jorisleem | ok:) |
| 13:02:09 | Jorisleem | if i stay in the menu it is better but in 1 min he does it 3 times ore something:P |
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| 13:03:19 | Jorisleem | (this is always better than ipodlinux beacuase ipodlinux does it 2 time in 1 SEC!) |
| 13:03:35 | Bagder | haha |
| 13:03:53 | Bagder | better is not always good enough ;-) |
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| 13:04:24 | Jorisleem | oke but whay is the buffer underun only on the ipod g3? |
| 13:04:40 | linuxstb | It has a slower CPU than the later ipods. |
| 13:05:04 | Jorisleem | oke but whay does the normal firmware play the songs good |
| 13:05:34 | Jorisleem | and the g1 and g2 they have slower cpu than the g3 isn't? |
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| 13:06:20 | linuxstb | Because the Apple firmware isn't Rockbox. We use different decoders in a different way, and it just isn't optimised enough for the 3g yet. |
| 13:06:45 | linuxstb | The 1g, 2g, and 3g all have the same CPU. |
| 13:06:49 | Jorisleem | ohw oke that sounds logix |
| 13:06:51 | Jorisleem | c |
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| 13:09:33 | Jorisleem | when is the buffer underun fixed? do you think in a couple of weeks ore months ore years? |
| 13:09:55 | dan_a | Jorisleem: We can't say. |
| 13:10:02 | Jorisleem | oohw ok:) |
| 13:10:19 | Jorisleem | keep up the great work guys:D |
| 13:10:29 | Jorisleem | i think the rockbox Rocks! |
| 13:10:40 | dan_a | I have a 3g, and I'm trying to fix it, but I can't say when I will get it right |
| 13:11:03 | Jorisleem | ok no problem:) |
| 13:11:25 | Jorisleem | I think it is great you working on the problem |
| 13:11:39 | Jorisleem | and if i take months i realy dont care |
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| 13:11:46 | Jorisleem | you tried it to fix |
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| 13:41:54 | daurnimator | wow |
| 13:41:59 | daurnimator | THAT was a crap movie |
| 13:42:08 | daurnimator | do NOT goto see "Kenny" |
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| 13:59:33 | aliask | hahaha get it! CRAP MOVIE |
| 13:59:37 | aliask | I actually quite liked it. |
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| 14:09:12 | daurnimator | it was following a plumber around for a couple of hours |
| 14:09:20 | daurnimator | nothing strange :S |
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| 14:10:47 | aliask | I dunno, it was funny, and you could really relate to him, in obscure ways... |
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| 14:46:28 | daurnimator | i just thought it was a bad movie |
| 14:47:47 | aliask | I don't have a problem with that. |
| 14:48:10 | daurnimator | do you have lua? |
| 14:48:33 | aliask | The programming language? |
| 14:48:41 | daurnimator | an interpreter |
| 14:49:06 | aliask | Well no... I don't have a PSP or anything that uses it. |
| 14:49:17 | daurnimator | ... a computer? |
| 14:49:31 | aliask | Or any desire to bother with it. |
| 14:49:40 | daurnimator | :( |
| 14:49:44 | aliask | Why do you ask? |
| 14:49:51 | daurnimator | i need somthing tested |
| 14:49:58 | daurnimator | no one around in any channels |
| 14:50:24 | aliask | Link me up and I'll give it a quick run |
| 14:50:50 | daurnimator | na |
| 14:51:02 | daurnimator | takes some effort to get correct librarys installed |
| 14:51:09 | Bagder | very pascal-like it is |
| 14:51:17 | aliask | Ok, and as you probably guessed, I cbf at this time of night. |
| 14:51:24 | daurnimator | aliask: yep |
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| 14:51:33 | daurnimator | Bagder: very easy to use language it is |
| 14:51:40 | Bagder | I don't like it |
| 14:51:50 | Bagder | but sure, it might be easy to use |
| 14:51:50 | daurnimator | ? |
| 14:52:24 | Bagder | I don't like pascal syntax |
| 14:52:31 | aliask | Grrr. Is there any way to see what process is using a file in Windows? |
| 14:52:32 | daurnimator | why don't you like it? |
| 14:52:43 | PaulJam | Slasheri: there seems to be a problem with switching to tagcache view via the quick menu while being in the wps. sometimes rockbox freezes when you then try to enter the tagcache view by pressing select/navi. i have experienced this on a h300 (but with a patched build) and in the uisimulator (with clean cvs source). if i enter the filetree, and then swich to tagcache this does not happen. |
| 14:52:48 | obo | aliask: process explorer - www.sysinternals.com |
| 14:52:57 | aliask | Awesome, thanks obo |
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| 14:53:39 | Bagder | daurnimator: too "talkative" |
| 14:53:47 | daurnimator | how so? |
| 14:53:55 | Bagder | do/end for example |
| 14:54:05 | daurnimator | ah, i thought that as well at one point |
| 14:54:15 | daurnimator | then found that its only 4 words |
| 14:54:19 | Bagder | well, its not a strong argument |
| 14:54:26 | daurnimator | you get used to it very fast |
| 14:54:29 | Bagder | I don't really care, its not a language for me |
| 14:55:21 | Bagder | the closest I get to lua, is luacurl which uses my lib ;-) |
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| 14:56:06 | aliask | Hah, only a bit biased there Bagder :) |
| 14:56:46 | Bagder | well, libcurl is usable from >30 languages so its not a bias for or against lua really |
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| 15:12:26 | daurnimator | Bagder: you should add user lua scripting to rockbox ;) |
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| 15:15:50 | Bagder | I should get my linux port to run |
| 15:16:00 | Bagder | (work) |
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| 15:47:22 | MadDog011 | heyyy |
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| 15:47:40 | MadDog011 | Hm I was wondering on progress status of a H10 recorder |
| 15:47:43 | MadDog011 | on rockbox |
| 15:48:07 | MadDog011 | My classes are starting and I will want to record them, so I Was wondering if I will hafta revert to the old firmware for that |
| 15:49:29 | linuxstb | There's a patch for h10 recording in the patch tracker. |
| 15:50:22 | MadDog011 | is it working fine? |
| 15:50:31 | linuxstb | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6096 |
| 15:58:43 | MadDog011 | thanx dave :) |
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| 16:12:01 | sublimal | is there anyway to bind a key to the backlight for the ipod, the same way the apple os does (hold menu)? |
| 16:12:29 | JdGordon | flicking the hold swicth should turn on the backlight |
| 16:14:07 | sublimal | but i would like a toggle button to turn it on off, without having to continually tamper with it |
| 16:14:58 | linuxstb | Rockbox can't do that... Also, on the ipods, Rockbox is very short on spare buttons (i.e. there aren't any). |
| 16:15:53 | sublimal | there is a set of options when you hold down the menu during the WPS, is this part of the wps or configurable? |
| 16:16:18 | Rincewind | it's build-in |
| 16:16:20 | linuxstb | That's the "quick menu". It's not configurable. |
| 16:16:54 | Rincewind | you could change keybindings if you edit and complile your own source |
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| 16:20:30 | sublimal | i'll consider it |
| 16:21:02 | sublimal | is there any debug logs or ways to turn on debugging that will help troubleshoot the data abort error? |
| 16:21:44 | JdGordon | the wonderfull .map file |
| 16:22:14 | linuxstb | sublimal: I assume you have a 4g ipod or 1st gen mini? |
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| 16:22:46 | sublimal | 4g ipod grayscale |
| 16:23:04 | linuxstb | You could try the cpufreq3.diff patch from here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6095 |
| 16:25:11 | sublimal | i'll try it tomorrow and report back |
| 16:26:07 | linuxstb | It would be useful if you could post a comment to that task. It seems to work for me on my Photo (I did a 5 hour test without any freezes), but the person who's tested it on a 1st gen mini is still reporting freezes. |
| 16:26:20 | linuxstb | (and the author of the patch also has a Photo) |
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| 16:58:35 | PaulJam | pondlife: there is still a problem with the new patch you posted at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6119 |
| 16:59:49 | pondlife | Yes |
| 16:59:53 | pondlife | Several! |
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| 17:00:00 | PaulJam | pondlife: i have tried it in the uisimulator for h300. settings were reset, and repeat set to off. the first album played fine, after it finished, i selected a different album... |
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| 17:00:36 | pondlife | It has a problem when the buffer wraps round, but I've not had any time to code today yet. |
| 17:01:08 | PaulJam | ... the first tracks played fine, but the track track that was playing while the buffer was refilled was skipped to the next track while or after bufferin was complete |
| 17:01:35 | pondlife | Yes, that's the one I think. Did it play a part of the track, then just skip forward to the next one? |
| 17:01:47 | PaulJam | yes |
| 17:02:22 | pondlife | OK. There's a third problem where stop/play results in the WPS display and playback position being askew. |
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| 17:08:09 | pondlife | I've added a comment, but no new code... |
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| 17:11:59 | pondlife | Thanks for testing |
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| 17:16:18 | PaulJam | i'm not sure if this is related to the stop/play issue, but if you stop playback and enter the audio debug menu the codec buffer stays filled (without the patch it had a small negative number) |
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| 17:29:10 | mots | hi, i have a problem with my iriver h340, maybe you guys could help me |
| 17:29:23 | mots | i just got it and wanted to put rockbox onto it |
| 17:29:49 | mots | but i'm not able to mount it (both linux/windows) |
| 17:30:42 | mots | i connected it to my pc, but it only says "charging" |
| 17:31:15 | mots | do I have to press any key or sth? |
| 17:32:30 | mots | oh |
| 17:32:33 | mots | i got it |
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| 18:02:54 | anjo | 4g with daily build rockbox connecting via firewire & usb to xp & linux. do i have to reboot the ipod into disk mode every time i connect to a pc? no autodetect? |
| 18:03:25 | linuxstb | There's no autodetect for firewire, but it should work for USB. |
| 18:05:06 | anjo | neither connection or OS autodetects the ipod unless it put it into disk mode first. |
| 18:05:24 | anjo | I put it* |
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| 18:05:59 | anjo | and when i disconnect it always says OK to disconnect but I need to reset to use the rockbox again |
| 18:06:07 | anjo | unless it's a user error? me. |
| 18:07:54 | linuxstb | There's not much scope for user error. If you insert a usb cable, Rockbox should detect it and reboot, unless you are holding MENU at the time. |
| 18:08:03 | linuxstb | (holding MENU prevents the reboot) |
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| 18:33:40 | anjo | ok, i changed builds and usb is now autodetected. thanks linuxstb |
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| 18:38:40 | XavierGr | which lame encoder should I use with EAC? |
| 18:38:45 | XavierGr | 3.97 final? |
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| 18:42:46 | dpro | XavierGr: I don't think it matters much, why not use oggenc anyway and enjoy the fresh breeze of freedom ;) |
| 18:44:28 | XavierGr | hehe |
| 18:44:38 | XavierGr | well I'd rather stick to my old habbits |
| 18:44:42 | XavierGr | even if ogg is better |
| 18:45:20 | dpro | yeah but there are still people out there who can't play them (like ipod owners without rb) |
| 18:46:51 | PaulJam | the best would propably be to rip them into a lossles format and then transcode (and keep the lossless files). so you don't have to rerip if you want to change the format. |
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| 18:48:31 | XavierGr | well that is not an option |
| 18:48:50 | XavierGr | I can't store all my music into a lossless format |
| 18:49:13 | XavierGr | and I am pretty sure that I can't tell the difference between the original and preset standard with lame |
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| 18:50:27 | Rincewind_ | with eac you can use the latest beta lame. |
| 18:50:50 | Rincewind_ | I encode with vbr v3 and I don't hear a difference |
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| 18:52:19 | XavierGr | now I am completely confused! |
| 18:53:04 | XavierGr | EAC seems to change the bitrate if you change your selection, but I thought that alt-preset standard was a standard joint stereo vbr rip |
| 18:53:08 | Rincewind_ | to say it simple: eac can use every version of lame, but the newest beta is the best (and it is stable enough) |
| 18:53:20 | dpro | XavierGr: just use $ cdparanoia 1 -w - | flac - -o 1.flac # ;) |
| 18:53:49 | XavierGr | Rincewind_: EAC has 2 options on compression tab, 1 for bitrate and another one for commandline on the encoder |
| 18:54:04 | Rincewind_ | I use a custom commandline in eac. If you speak german you can find information on www.audiohq.de |
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| 18:54:29 | XavierGr | Rincewind_: I thought that using the command line with -alt-preset standard was a specific setting that didn't had to do with bitrate |
| 18:54:40 | Rincewind_ | if you want, I can send you my eac profile. |
| 18:54:56 | XavierGr | thanks but I have to run! I will figure this later |
| 18:55:09 | XavierGr | (fears that he ripped many mp3s the wrong way) |
| 18:55:11 | Rincewind_ | alt-preset-standard ist depreceiated, btw |
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| 18:55:26 | XavierGr | depreciated? you mean not good? |
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| 18:57:04 | Rincewind_ | it's not bad, it's mapped internally to the right setting, but you get more predictable results if you us -v3 or -v2 (these are vbr levels) |
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| 18:57:40 | Rincewind_ | this is my commandline: -V 3 −−vbr-new −−id3v2-only −−pad-id3v2 −−ignore-tag-errors −−tt "%t" −−ta "%a" −−tl "%g" −−ty "%y" −−tn "%n" −−tg "%m" %s %d |
| 18:57:50 | XavierGr | omg! |
| 18:57:55 | XavierGr | thanks but I have to run! |
| 18:57:57 | XavierGr | bye |
| 18:58:07 | Rincewind_ | the only important bits are -v3 −−vbr-new |
| 18:59:29 | * | Rincewind_ is off to fetch something to eat |
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| 19:03:12 | Lear | iirc, −−alt-preset standard is the same as -V 2 in recent lame versions. |
| 19:09:38 | preglow | Lear: so rockbox can play most aacs now? |
| 19:10:09 | Lear | Not quite yet. Need the metadata.c patch too, which I'll commit soonish. :) |
| 19:10:13 | preglow | Lear: most of this is code that will survive any swapping out of faad, yes? |
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| 19:10:22 | Lear | Have some cleaning up to do... |
| 19:10:40 | pixelma | and look at the build table ;) |
| 19:10:50 | Lear | Depends on if the replacement comes with an MP4 file parsing. |
| 19:10:57 | Lear | That's the cleaning up I was refering to... :) |
| 19:11:17 | Lear | Ah, forgot to commit a file... |
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| 19:16:32 | * | amiconn appears |
| 19:16:49 | * | preglow jumps |
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| 19:17:34 | mots | hi, i just tried the experemental build by KOSH and the wps from the 24-bit-collection |
| 19:17:55 | mots | my problem is: nearly all objects in the wps seem to be misplaced |
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| 19:19:05 | mots | could you guys maybe tell me how to fix that? |
| 19:19:20 | linuxstb_ | Do you have the fonts installed? |
| 19:19:29 | mots | well |
| 19:19:29 | preglow | kosh would pretty be the person to ask about his own build, though |
| 19:19:34 | mots | dunno |
| 19:19:43 | preglow | insert much |
| 19:19:44 | mots | guess they came with the wps-collection |
| 19:20:29 | linuxstb_ | There's a font zip file on the daily builds page (the last item - with a Rockbox logo above it). |
| 19:24:32 | mots | how do I restart my iriver using rockbox? |
| 19:24:49 | mots | got it |
| 19:25:24 | mots | well |
| 19:25:51 | mots | now i have the fonts installed, but the themes are still all b0rked |
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| 19:27:07 | mots | any ideas? |
| 19:27:24 | Genre9mp3 | reload the theme |
| 19:27:46 | mots | already did tha |
| 19:27:47 | mots | t |
| 19:28:02 | Genre9mp3 | from Browse Themes? |
| 19:28:02 | mots | tried lots of themes |
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| 19:28:11 | mots | but they all seem to be b0rk |
| 19:28:15 | mots | well, yeah |
| 19:29:05 | Genre9mp3 | Does the font change when you switch themes? |
| 19:29:15 | mots | nope |
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| 19:29:34 | linuxstb_ | If you go to Browse Fonts, do you see lots of fonts? |
| 19:29:53 | Genre9mp3 | Are you sure you installed fonts properly? They must be in/.rockbox/fonts |
| 19:30:49 | mots | oh |
| 19:30:58 | mots | maybe i forgot unmounting it |
| 19:31:10 | mots | i hate nautilus not writing files immediately |
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| 19:32:06 | * | Genre9mp3 thinks taht more people have problems with themes than with installation :/ |
| 19:32:22 | mots | well |
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| 19:32:40 | mots | maybe the theme-pack should include fonts, at least |
| 19:32:59 | mots | *or at least notice that you need them |
| 19:34:25 | mots | thx |
| 19:34:36 | mots | ajant now works |
| 19:34:43 | mots | but hipod-mod is still b0rk |
| 19:34:45 | mots | >:O |
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| 19:42:53 | mots | does anyone know why all hipod-based themes are b0rk? |
| 19:44:53 | nls | mots, did you install the fonts? |
| 19:44:56 | mots | well |
| 19:45:06 | mots | i just found out, that original hipod works |
| 19:45:38 | mots | but hipod_ca, hipod_ca_dark and hipod_mod don't do |
| 19:46:01 | mots | nls: yepp |
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| 19:53:02 | mots | no ideaas? |
| 19:53:09 | mots | *-a |
| 19:53:21 | nls | where did you get the themes |
| 19:53:24 | nls | ? |
| 19:53:37 | mots | well |
| 19:53:45 | mots | from misticriver.com |
| 19:54:21 | nls | do they require any patches, special fonts, black magic etc? |
| 19:54:39 | mots | http://misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=41893 |
| 19:54:40 | mots | well |
| 19:55:03 | mots | i tried it on original firmware -> extreme b0rk |
| 19:55:18 | mots | then i tried on kosh's build, less b0rk, but still b0rk |
| 19:56:53 | Rincewind_ | hm, I don't like this _b0rk_ word... |
| 19:57:07 | mots | well |
| 19:57:11 | mots | lets say broken |
| 19:57:20 | Lear | Seems to need album art patch... |
| 19:57:48 | mots | ... album art is included in kosh's build |
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| 20:01:17 | Genre9mp3 | mots... I think that you have to edit the wps file if you want to use it |
| 20:01:38 | Genre9mp3 | The album art patch recently changed and needs different formating |
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| 20:03:11 | mots | Genre9mp3: and how do I have to change it? |
| 20:03:28 | Genre9mp3 | mots: Open the wps file with a text editor |
| 20:04:07 | Genre9mp3 | Find the %C|x|x|x|x| line (where x are numbers) |
| 20:04:53 | Genre9mp3 | And make it: %Cl|x|x|sx|sx| (the x numbers should be the same) |
| 20:05:21 | Genre9mp3 | Then add a %C at the end of the code |
| 20:05:36 | Genre9mp3 | Save it, reload it and you are done! :) |
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| 20:07:55 | arkascha | join #kde |
| 20:08:46 | petur | no |
| 20:09:17 | arkascha | petur: LOL |
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| 20:12:02 | mots | Genre9mp3: great thx, that did it |
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| 20:13:36 | Genre9mp3 | mots: cool! :) |
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| 20:15:11 | PaulJam | i just saw that on the h300 you can also press play+right to jump to the next directory. i was wondering if it would be a good idea to map this to rec+right , because you can press those two button with one finger. |
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| 20:16:30 | mots | i still have one question, i know that it doesn't belong here, but I guess you guys could know: |
| 20:17:23 | mots | is there any tool (cli, gui, don't care), that makes directory structures for songs (using tags) like: ARTIST/ALBUM/NUMBER/SONG ? |
| 20:17:54 | crwl | lots. |
| 20:18:10 | mots | tell me one (for linux) |
| 20:18:20 | crwl | easytag |
| 20:18:31 | mots | easytag is capable of this? |
| 20:18:38 | mots | great thx |
| 20:18:40 | crwl | yes, and the opposite too |
| 20:18:46 | mots | well |
| 20:19:01 | mots | don't care about the opposite, as i spent days tagging them |
| 20:19:22 | crwl | i'm pretty sure amarok does it that way too |
| 20:19:35 | mots | well |
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| 20:19:46 | mots | did not find anything like that in arok |
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| 20:20:16 | crwl | in collection browser make a selection (an artist or whatever), right-click, manage files -> organize files |
| 20:22:35 | _jhMikeS_ | all the iRivers have mono remotes right? |
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| 20:23:38 | Genre9mp3 | jhMikeS: Yes... 1bpp |
| 20:26:18 | jhMikeS | The sim will tell me if my changes work right? The color picker was messed on the x5 remote but it works now there. |
| 20:27:06 | * | jhMikeS has never used a sim for UI testing BTW |
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| 20:30:08 | mots | which filetypes does AA support? |
| 20:30:12 | mots | only bmp? |
| 20:30:15 | mots | or png, too? |
| 20:30:27 | PaulJam | no, only bmp |
| 20:31:05 | godzirra | I need to write a script to pull all the covers out of my id3 tags. |
| 20:31:10 | godzirra | since thats the way media monkey stored them all. |
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| 20:41:47 | godzirra | heya Kalthare. |
| 20:41:49 | godzirra | You're my hero. |
| 20:42:18 | Kalthare | Hiya. Did you get your MBR fixed? |
| 20:43:18 | godzirra | No, I can't find my backup of my original mbr :( |
| 20:43:44 | godzirra | It seems to work fine, just reports the wrong amount of space left. |
| 20:44:29 | Kalthare | Well, make sure you don't fill it close to 30G, and you should be fine. |
| 20:44:37 | godzirra | Any word on moving towards being able to copy to and from without mtools? |
| 20:46:13 | Kalthare | Well, no. Rockbox still needs to be modified to support 2K sectors. |
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| 20:48:22 | * | godzirra nods |
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| 20:48:34 | godzirra | I know.. was just curious if any large steps were made towards that. |
| 20:48:39 | godzirra | I don't know enough C to help :/ |
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| 20:49:49 | Kalthare | Well, I had a partial patch for it, but it hangs and I don't know why. |
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| 20:58:25 | godzirra | So anyone know of any perl modules that will pull cover art from an id3 tag? |
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| 21:04:27 | amiconn | Kalthare: The 2K sector patch cannot work in its current state |
| 21:04:43 | Kalthare | amiconn: What'd I do wrong? |
| 21:05:05 | amiconn | You exceed the maximum ata transfer length (256 sectors) by a factor of 4 |
| 21:05:48 | Kalthare | amiconn: Thank you. That's what I was looking for. |
| 21:06:49 | amiconn | fat.c line 2044 ensures this for standard sectors, but your modified transfer() multiplies by 4 |
| 21:09:09 | Kalthare | amiconn: Okay, I found it. |
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| 21:14:36 | lowlight | godzirra: try "eyed3" (python, not perl) there's a write-images option |
| 21:15:25 | godzirra | thanks I'll take a look |
| 21:22:23 | blueworm | kalthare, If you get a patch ready I can build and test on a 80Gb. |
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| 21:25:00 | Kalthare | blueworm: I appreciate it. Right now I'm preparing my own iPod for testing. |
| 21:26:09 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 21:27:55 | blueworm | good luck |
| 21:28:11 | godzirra | yes, good luck |
| 21:28:14 | * | godzirra crosses his fingers. |
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| 21:31:54 | mots | could anyone here write me a bash script that resizes all files called folder.bmp to 75*75 (recursive, of course) |
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| 21:37:47 | tucoz | nice topic :) |
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| 21:39:00 | sneakums | mots: if you have imagemagick install: find /my/music/folder -name folder.bmp -print | xargs -n 1 −− mogrify -scale 75x75 |
| 21:39:48 | mots | ty |
| 21:40:01 | lowlight | mogrify overwrites the existing image |
| 21:40:19 | mots | thats exactly what i want it to do |
| 21:40:40 | lowlight | was just warning :) |
| 21:40:45 | mots | know |
| 21:40:48 | mots | >:O |
| 21:41:06 | mots | how about first copying them to image_big? |
| 21:41:13 | mots | or cover_big even |
| 21:41:24 | mots | could that be scripted, too? |
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| 21:44:00 | mots | sneakums, guess you could help me |
| 21:46:28 | mots | or maybe lowlight? |
| 21:46:38 | lowlight | mots: I'm no bash exper, but this might work... for b in `find . -name folder.bmp`; do cp $b `dirname $b`/folder_big.bmp; mogrify -size 75x75 $b; done; |
| 21:47:02 | sneakums | yeah, dirname is the way to go |
| 21:47:09 | sneakums | although i'd do it like this: |
| 21:48:31 | sneakums | find /music -name folder.bmp -print | while read line; do mv $(dirname "$line")/folder.bmp $(dirname "$line")/folder_big.bmp ; convert -scale 75x75 $(dirname "$line")/folder_big.bmp $(dirname "$line")/folder.bmp ; done |
| 21:48:46 | sneakums | using for will break if there are spaces in the paths |
| 21:49:16 | mots | great, thx |
| 21:49:37 | sneakums | run it first with echo instead of mv and convert to make sure it's going to do the right thing |
| 21:50:50 | mots | mots@nonsense:~$ find ~/mugge -name folder.bmp -print | while read line; do echo $(dirname "$line")/folder.bmp $(dirname "$line")/folder_big.bmp ; echo $(dirname "$line")/folder_big.bmp $(dirname "$line")/folder.bmp ; done |
| 21:51:00 | mots | gives exactly no output |
| 21:51:40 | dan_a | Would anyone be able to help me with an assembly macro? It shouldn't be difficult for someone who knows what they are doing... |
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| 21:52:44 | sneakums | ~/mugge is your music directory? |
| 21:52:48 | mots | yeah |
| 21:53:17 | dan_a | What have I done wrong with http://pastebin.ca/198128? |
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| 21:55:24 | mots | sneakums: guess it should do sth.? |
| 21:55:43 | sneakums | yeah, it should |
| 21:56:00 | sneakums | does 'find ~/mugge -name folder.bmp -print' list your cover images? |
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| 21:56:51 | mots | nope |
| 21:57:04 | sneakums | what does 'echo ~/mugge' say? |
| 21:57:06 | mots | oh |
| 21:57:09 | mots | sorry |
| 21:57:14 | mots | wasn't your fault |
| 21:57:22 | Lear | dan_a: compile or runtime problem (can't help you with the latter though, don't know arm asm)? |
| 21:57:28 | mots | i idiot forgot they were called cover.bmo |
| 21:57:31 | mots | *bmp |
| 21:57:42 | sneakums | heh |
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| 21:58:09 | dan_a | Lear: Compile - but I think I've got it now... |
| 21:58:12 | Lear | dan_a: tried without x as both input and output? |
| 21:58:14 | Lear | :) |
| 21:59:12 | dan_a | Lear: It needs to be an input and an output - but actually referencing v helps... |
| 21:59:47 | mots | sneakums: still doesn't work |
| 21:59:49 | mots | :( |
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| 22:00:18 | mots | mv: angegebenes Ziel âTracks]/cover_big.bmpâ ist kein Verzeichnis |
| 22:00:18 | mots | convert: unable to open image `[Bonus': No such file or directory. |
| 22:00:24 | mots | stuff like that |
| 22:01:27 | linuxstb_ | mots: Do you know that the album art patch can resize bmp files for you as it loads them? |
| 22:01:44 | mots | well |
| 22:01:50 | mots | nope tbh |
| 22:02:17 | mots | i always heard, "if they're not the right size, they'll be ignored" |
| 22:02:39 | mots | so the size of the files doesn'T matter anymore? |
| 22:03:12 | sneakums | i've been saving mine as 256x256 so they'd scale nicely to 128x128 |
| 22:03:20 | mots | great |
| 22:03:45 | mots | than i only need the copying part as i want to have computer-usable ones, too |
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| 22:09:32 | mots | sneakums: could you take a quick look at that? |
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| 22:10:43 | sneakums | mots: i think you need to put double quotes around all the $(dirname ...) calls |
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| 22:10:57 | sneakums | mots: so change them to "$(dirname "$line")" |
| 22:11:11 | * | amiconn wonders what that strange asm macro should do |
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| 22:12:06 | amiconn | It looks all screwed, and I can't imagine its purpose |
| 22:12:18 | dan_a | It is all screwed |
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| 22:12:42 | dan_a | I'm working on atomic mutexes |
| 22:13:42 | Kalthare | Okay, I think it's working now. amiconn's a hero. |
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| 22:14:27 | mots | sneakums: find ~/mugge -name cover.bmp -print | while read line; do cp "$(dirname "$line")"/cover.bmp "$(dirname "$line")"/cover_big.bmp ; done ? |
| 22:15:03 | sneakums | yep, that's it |
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| 22:17:58 | * | amiconn is just a long-term rockbox fellow |
| 22:18:37 | amiconn | dan_a: Why do you call it TEST_AND_SET() ? |
| 22:18:48 | amiconn | The swp(b) instruction doesn't test anything |
| 22:19:19 | amiconn | It just reads a value from memory, and swaps it for another value, in an atomic way |
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| 22:21:20 | * | amiconn also recommends using do { ... } while(0) for multi-statement macros |
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| 22:22:37 | dan_a | The instruction itsself doesn't, no. But if you do something like TEST_AND_SET(m->locked, true) in mutex_lock, it does test and set the value at the same time |
| 22:23:17 | * | dan_a looks for an example of a macro done the way amiconn suggests |
| 22:23:23 | Kalthare | I accidentally left in a bunch of debugging output, so I'm recompiling. Once I've given it a proper test, I'll put a patch together. |
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| 22:23:52 | amiconn | dan_a: How would that be able to test the value? Your call example has only input parameters... |
| 22:24:49 | dan_a | Good point |
| 22:25:00 | blueworm | my hero |
| 22:25:51 | blueworm | btb how do i speak in 3rd person? |
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| 22:26:45 | tucoz | blueworm, you type /me says something |
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| 22:27:14 | amiconn | dan_a: If you want a return value, it might be better to use an inline function. |
| 22:27:28 | * | blueworm claps hands |
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| 22:27:52 | blueworm | thanks dude. I'm irc n00b |
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| 22:29:38 | webguest40 | hello |
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| 22:31:34 | amiconn | dan_a: My suggestion is here: http://pastebin.ca/198186 |
| 22:34:00 | amiconn | Then call that with oldval = test_and_set(&m->locked, true); |
| 22:34:23 | dan_a | amiconn: Thank you! |
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| 22:37:02 | jhMikeS | hey...atomic code |
| 22:37:19 | dan_a | That looks much better when I look at the disassembly |
| 22:37:54 | Kalthare | Okay, I'm making the patch now |
| 22:37:56 | dan_a | jhMikeS: Well, if there are going to be threads on different processors, we need atomic mutexs :) |
| 22:38:15 | jhMikeS | absolutely...would love to see rb be preemtive too |
| 22:38:39 | * | jhMikeS ducks |
| 22:40:20 | jhMikeS | dan_a: Things are on their way to that now anyway |
| 22:42:03 | amiconn | A preemptive kernel would create more problems than it woul dsolve |
| 22:42:09 | webguest40 | i think i found a link where you can put wikipedia or ur ipod |
| 22:42:30 | Kalthare | http://kalthare.freeshell.org/5.5-1.patch |
| 22:43:19 | webguest40 | im seriously not even kidding |
| 22:43:31 | blueworm | what daily build does it patch against? todays or yesterdays? |
| 22:44:01 | webguest40 | neither |
| 22:44:06 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I'm sure it would but they'd fun to solve...I hate that yield stuff |
| 22:44:14 | Kitt0s | hey how can make the text color black? |
| 22:44:14 | jhMikeS | Reminds me of windows 3.x |
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| 22:44:23 | Kalthare | blueworm: Actually, come to think of it, it patches against my week-old CVS pull... |
| 22:44:30 | Kalthare | See if it applies anyway. |
| 22:44:42 | blueworm | ok |
| 22:45:28 | * | amiconn likes yield() |
| 22:46:00 | amiconn | This way the developer can decide when to interrupt the flow, instead of the kernel |
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| 22:46:19 | * | dan_a likes a scheduler he can understand |
| 22:46:44 | Kalthare | blueworm: Remember, after you run configure, you have to manually add "#define FAT_2K_SECTORS" to autoconf.h |
| 22:46:57 | preglow | yield() surely does make multithreading easier |
| 22:47:04 | jhMikeS | ech |
| 22:47:05 | amiconn | With a preemptive kernel, we would need all sorts of integrity protection -> lots of overhead, and ugly |
| 22:47:27 | preglow | yeah, we probably have a quarter of the mutexes we'd need if we didn't have yield |
| 22:47:43 | jhMikeS | I've always found programming preemptively much easier and more intuitive. no joke |
| 22:47:59 | preglow | intuitive, perhaps, but easier, no |
| 22:48:06 | linuxstb_ | Do you want to implement it? |
| 22:48:20 | Moos | easier is one individual thing ;) |
| 22:48:25 | * | preglow is reminded how much he hates multithread programming |
| 22:48:30 | jhMikeS | easier for me...moos got it |
| 22:49:00 | blueworm | Kalthare it does not apply cleanly. :( |
| 22:49:02 | jhMikeS | I love multithreaded... |
| 22:49:09 | * | linuxstb_ has managed to avoid multi-threaded programming (apart from Rockbox) |
| 22:49:17 | Kalthare | blueworm: Alright, I'll update and try and fix the patch |
| 22:49:18 | * | preglow hasn't :/ |
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| 22:49:31 | jhMikeS | vengan threads (let the threads come) |
| 22:49:31 | preglow | threading has bitten me often enough that i tend to avoid it |
| 22:49:40 | blueworm | thanks dude |
| 22:50:16 | jhMikeS | I find it pretty easy to imagine them running in my head...maybe I'm wierd :\ |
| 22:50:46 | preglow | depends how many threads we're talking about |
| 22:50:48 | * | amiconn spots a weird thing in last night's commits :/ |
| 22:50:55 | * | preglow longs for languages better fitted to multi-threading |
| 22:50:55 | jhMikeS | 100s...doesn't matter |
| 22:51:35 | * | petur has no problems with multi-threading but would rather avoid it in embedded |
| 22:51:45 | jhMikeS | If you lock down but never up there's no danger |
| 22:52:24 | amiconn | Dithering on target... what a waste :/ |
| 22:52:32 | jhMikeS | So lock a->lock b or lock b but never lock b->lock a |
| 22:52:39 | jhMikeS | amiconn: why? |
| 22:52:54 | amiconn | Why dither on target when you can pre-dither the image? |
| 22:53:07 | Kalthare | blueworm: ...I just applied the patch to rockbox-daily-20061011 and it went in fine, not even any fuzz. What's the problem you had? |
| 22:53:21 | jhMikeS | Many aren't pre dithered and it's pretty small |
| 22:53:28 | Kalthare | I figure this'd be a pretty stable patch, since the files it modifies don't otherwise change much |
| 22:53:39 | amiconn | (apart from the fact that I don't really like dithering. It often looks even more ugly than banding) |
| 22:54:14 | jhMikeS | Put a gradient background on...24 to 16 is pretty subtle |
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| 22:54:44 | * | amiconn doesn't use bitmaps in rockbox |
| 22:54:58 | jhMikeS | I only did it cause it was fairly tiny and maybe could be squeezed down some more at that |
| 22:54:59 | amiconn | Too wasteful, with no real benefit |
| 22:55:22 | * | jhMikeS likes eye candy |
| 22:55:35 | Kitt0s | stupid q: hey how can make the text color black? |
| 22:55:38 | * | petur agrees with amiconn |
| 22:55:57 | pixelma | jhMikeS: seen this thread? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6958.msg54169 (I only guess it has something to do with your changes) |
| 22:56:00 | jhMikeS | What's with all the miminalism? :P |
| 22:56:30 | amiconn | In some places I like eye candy too, but only if it outweighs the cost it comes at |
| 22:56:36 | preglow | minimalism talk shouldn't surprise you around amiconn, gheh |
| 22:56:41 | amiconn | That's one reason why I also avoid dircache |
| 22:57:03 | preglow | but yeah, i somewhat agree anyway |
| 22:57:05 | jhMikeS | pixelma: Now you see what happens when I'm stuck and have to wait to get an iRiver to get the uda working |
| 22:57:38 | preglow | amiconn: a couple of hundrer kilobytes of ram outweighs instant browsing??? |
| 22:57:47 | amiconn | Yes |
| 22:57:58 | preglow | well, if you don't browse... |
| 22:58:11 | preglow | i go mad each time i reset my settings and forget dircache |
| 22:58:13 | * | Moos votes for Rockbox finabce one iriver to jhMikeS :) |
| 22:58:14 | amiconn | I listen to music far longer than I browse |
| 22:58:19 | jhMikeS | hmmm...colors inverted...indeed. Don't you just swap the bytes for RGB565SWAPPED? |
| 22:58:30 | preglow | jhMikeS: hell no |
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| 22:58:38 | preglow | or... |
| 22:58:50 | preglow | forget me |
| 22:58:51 | jhMikeS | Will the sim tell the story? |
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| 22:59:24 | preglow | anyway, i don't know if dithering is beneficial on screens the size we use |
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| 23:00:14 | amiconn | preglow: Once the disk has spun up, there are no further delays. I don't see what's so bad about that. It's slightly annoying, but that's it |
| 23:00:25 | preglow | amiconn: depends how you browse |
| 23:00:34 | preglow | if you wait too long, it spins down again, and there you go |
| 23:00:35 | preglow | more annoyance |
| 23:00:48 | amiconn | Furthermore I often use the Ondio which has no spinup delay, or the mini which only has a minimal spinup delay (500ms) |
| 23:01:13 | amiconn | The most annoying target (spinup-wise) is the X5 |
| 23:01:42 | preglow | yes, i don't exactly need dircache on my nano |
| 23:01:47 | preglow | but on my h120 it's a straight out must |
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| 23:02:26 | amiconn | For me, boot time on iriver is far more annoying than browse spinup delays are |
| 23:02:41 | petur | yes |
| 23:02:43 | preglow | boot time really doesn't annoy me at all |
| 23:03:12 | amiconn | ...because you have to wait for the thing to be at least at the logo splash to press resume |
| 23:03:16 | preglow | i don't need to wait for that, i just press on and it's going when it's ready |
| 23:03:36 | Genre9mp3 | amiconn, preglow: I think that the case here is that the feature exists for anyone who needs/wants it |
| 23:03:36 | jhMikeS | amiconn: why? mine spins in 240 ticks not > 300 |
| 23:03:42 | preglow | with disk spinup on browse, i have to just wait and look at the screen while it spins up |
| 23:03:51 | preglow | Genre9mp3: well, sure... |
| 23:03:54 | pixelma | jhMikeS: yes the colours are inverted even in the sim (just tried it) |
| 23:03:56 | amiconn | jhMikeS: What model do you have? |
| 23:03:59 | preglow | Genre9mp3: it's not like i'm trying to make in mandatory |
| 23:04:02 | jhMikeS | x5 |
| 23:04:21 | Genre9mp3 | preglow: I use dircache, too on my H340 ;) |
| 23:04:25 | jhMikeS | I'm gonna try the sim myself and take care of it |
| 23:05:01 | jhMikeS | x5 60GB I mean |
| 23:05:02 | * | preglow is reading a paper about a fixed point spectrum analyzer method |
| 23:05:38 | jhMikeS | I guess it's got a torquey little motor |
| 23:05:40 | pixelma | jhMikeS: not really inverted but wrong... ;) |
| 23:05:45 | amiconn | Hmm, strange. SPinup time on my X5 varies quite a bit. Measured 2600ms right now, not longer than on archos. But somehow it feels longer... |
| 23:06:32 | preglow | The proposed algorithm is patent pending. |
| 23:06:42 | jhMikeS | I know cause of watching it for the recording and it's pretty consistently between 240 and 250 |
| 23:06:43 | preglow | arghgh!! why do they even bother bloody publishing it |
| 23:06:45 | preglow | assholers |
| 23:07:21 | jhMikeS | preglow: you look for anything DSP on the web and it's all patent this, patent that |
| 23:07:40 | preglow | jhMikeS: not really, no |
| 23:07:52 | preglow | but it seems to be a trend overall that dsp people don't like sharing |
| 23:08:43 | jhMikeS | preglow: why do I see so much then when searching? :\ |
| 23:09:28 | preglow | jhMikeS: *shrug*, depends what you're searching for, i guess |
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| 23:11:44 | blueworm | Kalthare how did you get it to patcg cleanly I got an error on line 18 disk.c |
| 23:11:58 | blueworm | anyhow I just finished patching by hand |
| 23:12:03 | amiconn | jhMikeS: swap16(color); ?? |
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| 23:12:13 | amiconn | swap16 is a function... |
| 23:12:21 | ipodmini2g | hello |
| 23:12:27 | blueworm | Do I still need to apply the ipod_fw.c patch? |
| 23:12:56 | * | linuxstb_ was just about to point out the swap16() function has a return value... |
| 23:13:14 | godzirra | Did Kalthare have any luck? |
| 23:13:36 | Moos | I have noticed one little HD noise sometimes, skiping track,.... and the HD don't spin up, that's strange |
| 23:13:38 | linuxstb_ | godzirra: Check the IRC logs... |
| 23:14:05 | ipodmini2g | i'm trying to install rockbox on my ipod (2g mini) and i says "cannot open loader image file bootloader-mini2g.bin |
| 23:14:09 | Kalthare | blueworm: I'm not patching line 18 in disk.c .... |
| 23:14:15 | jhMikeS | how do you get the context menu on the nano sim? |
| 23:14:20 | amiconn | jhMikeS: The dithering is rather costly the way it's coded, but not because of the dithering itself... |
| 23:14:42 | jhMikeS | you mean size wize? |
| 23:14:51 | Kalthare | The only change to disk.c is at line 78 |
| 23:14:52 | amiconn | Checking the same condition over and over within the innermost loop is surely inefficient |
| 23:15:18 | blueworm | yes but it complained about it. |
| 23:15:51 | Kalthare | Is your tree clean? |
| 23:15:56 | jhMikeS | surely but speed wasn't really the issue for that as I saw it...wasn't thinking it'd be used like lcd_write_data |
| 23:16:13 | blueworm | I just untar'ed it |
| 23:16:22 | ipodmini2g | where do i get bootloader-mini2g.bin? |
| 23:16:34 | amiconn | hmm |
| 23:17:05 | godzirra | Kalthare: so you're patch gets it to work without using mtools? Or am I confused as to the purpose. |
| 23:17:13 | linuxstb_ | ipodmini2g: The install instructions should have a link to it. What instructions are you following? |
| 23:17:37 | Kalthare | godzirra: Yeah, it's a patch to fix the actual problem. |
| 23:17:47 | godzirra | Nice! |
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| 23:17:56 | ipodmini2g | daily build |
| 23:18:20 | ipodmini2g | the manual only had the mini1g.bin |
| 23:19:13 | Kitt0s | is it possible to make black fonts? |
| 23:19:51 | linuxstb_ | ipodmini2g: That's a bug in the manual... Just replace "1g" with "2g" in the link. |
| 23:20:05 | Kalthare | It seems to work, but I haven't tested it much yet. There's a lot of work yet to do, tho. |
| 23:20:14 | petur | Kitt0s:set the foreground color |
| 23:20:19 | jhMikeS | heh...that backdrop I tried looks a lot like something you'd see on acid |
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| 23:20:20 | ipodmini2g | ok |
| 23:20:48 | | Quit petur ("Zzzz") |
| 23:20:55 | ipodmini2g | thanks |
| 23:21:34 | ipodmini2g | yippi |
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| 23:22:19 | godzirra | Kalthare: Is the patch posted somewhere? |
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| 23:22:34 | Kalthare | godzirra: http://kalthare.freeshell.org/5.5-1.patch |
| 23:22:36 | ipodmini2gg | sorry, this is ipodmini still |
| 23:22:43 | ipodmini2gg | let's see if this worked... |
| 23:23:02 | ipodmini2gg | cross your fingers.... |
| 23:23:53 | ipodmini2gg | no way |
| 23:23:58 | ipodmini2gg | holy shit |
| 23:24:14 | Kalthare | godzirra: If you use it, remember to add "#define FAT_2K_SECTORS" to autoconf.h after you run configure. |
| 23:24:35 | ipodmini2gg | how do i play music? |
| 23:26:12 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:26:28 | jhMikeS | If the sims are indeed acurate about the color swapping thing, then I guess I got stuff confused indeed |
| 23:27:15 | linuxstb_ | ipodmini2gg: If you transferred it with itunes, you probably want to read the tagcache section in the manual. |
| 23:27:31 | Moos | amiconn, jhMikeS: what is the coldstar detection for on the ATA driver front? |
| 23:29:21 | Kalthare | blueworm: Sorry, I missed your question about ipod_fw.c. I've been loading the firmware in manually rather than using that −− you need that patched too, yes. I can't vouch for whether that patch works, as I haven't tried it. |
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| 23:30:35 | sneakums | it works for me |
| 23:30:44 | sneakums | although i still have that hang on the first read |
| 23:31:30 | godzirra | Kalthare: what directory do you apply the patch in? |
| 23:31:34 | sneakums | Kalthare: could you modify the ata_device_init in ata-pp5020.c to dump the result of the first inl? i'm wondering if there's some difference in the ATA hardware between the 30G and the 80G |
| 23:32:03 | sneakums | it makes no sense that there would be, but it's worth checking |
| 23:32:32 | sneakums | and i can't think of anything else i can check in the ata init |
| 23:32:59 | blueworm | I got the bootloader to buid, the main build is now compiling |
| 23:33:00 | Kalthare | godzirra: The top level of the build tree, with -p 1 |
| 23:33:43 | Kalthare | sneakums: Maybe later. I'm a little busy right now. |
| 23:34:22 | Kalthare | Oh −− in case it wasn't clear, if you've reformatted with 512-byte sectors for that hack I did, you need to reformat it again for 2048-byte sectors. |
| 23:35:31 | sneakums | Kalthare: no worries, i can't do anything with the information until this evening anyway |
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| 23:35:57 | sneakums | or ever, since i don't know what i'm doing |
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| 23:38:32 | ipodmini2gg | is ipodlinux any better than rockbox? |
| 23:39:08 | dan_a | ipodmini2gg: It's different. Not better or worse. |
| 23:39:30 | blueworm | no dice |
| 23:39:53 | ipodmini2gg | hmm, is it easier to use? |
| 23:40:06 | preglow | do you like to use your ipod to play music? |
| 23:40:38 | preglow | if so, then rockbox is better, no way to hide that fact |
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| 23:41:23 | preglow | ipodlinux.org seems to have... problem |
| 23:42:23 | blueworm | kalthare do you add the broadcome firmware also? |
| 23:43:41 | godzirra | this is my first rockbox build. |
| 23:43:46 | godzirra | err. |
| 23:43:50 | godzirra | first time I've built rockbox I guess |
| 23:44:08 | godzirra | Hrm. Igot an error saying make[1]: *** [/home/shawn/rockbox/build-dir/librockbox.a] Error 127 |
| 23:45:13 | blueworm | ./ipod_fw -g video -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin -i apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin bootloader.bin does that look right? |
| 23:45:22 | godzirra | yup |
| 23:45:58 | Kalthare | blueworm: I installed the bootloader manually. |
| 23:46:09 | blueworm | how? |
| 23:46:31 | godzirra | Kalthare: So I have the bootloader installed already... I just need to format the drive, copy my new build of rockbox on it (Assuming I can get it to compile) and I'm good to go? |
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| 23:47:49 | Kalthare | "dd if=bootloader/bootloader.bin of=/dev/sdb1 bs=2048 seek=10", then hexedit the header. I wrote a imple C program to calculate the checksum. |
| 23:48:28 | godzirra | I need to get an original copy of the mbr. :/ |
| 23:48:33 | godzirra | Mine is apparently gone. |
| 23:48:33 | Kalthare | godzirra: Is it the official build bootloader, or patched? |
| 23:48:38 | blueworm | Ill try the bs=2048 seek10 part |
| 23:48:50 | godzirra | one sec |
| 23:49:06 | Kalthare | blueworm: You need to adjust the header, too, or it won't boot. |
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| 23:49:39 | Kalthare | godzirra: Just fdisk it, delete partitions 2 and 3, and create a new FAT32 partition in the empty space. |
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| 23:50:10 | godzirra | Well, I have to get it ti compile first. |
| 23:50:17 | godzirra | not sure what the error its g iving me is from |
| 23:50:17 | blueworm | would'nt it be easier for me to install an exact image of your /dev/sdx1 ? |
| 23:50:29 | godzirra | this line gives me the error: AR+RANLIB /home/shawn/rockbox/build-dir/librockbox.a |
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| 23:50:54 | Kalthare | godzirra: ...I'm pretty sure that isn't an error message. |
| 23:51:01 | sneakums | that's not an error |
| 23:51:05 | Kalthare | blueworm: Okay, I'll put one up |
| 23:51:06 | godzirra | This is the actual error: make[1]: *** [/home/shawn/rockbox/build-dir/librockbox.a] Error 127 |
| 23:51:15 | blueworm | thanks again |
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| 23:53:38 | linuxstb_ | godzirra: What is the first error you get? There should be at least one before that. |
| 23:54:21 | godzirra | nope |
| 23:54:38 | godzirra | CC drivers/lcd.S |
| 23:54:38 | godzirra | CC mp3_playback.c |
| 23:54:38 | godzirra | CC mp3data.c |
| 23:54:40 | godzirra | shit |
| 23:54:43 | godzirra | sorry |
| 23:54:47 | godzirra | Was trying to paste this: http://sial.org/pbot/20365 |
| 23:54:49 | godzirra | which is a paste of it |
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| 23:55:26 | sneakums | is your disk full or something? |
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| 23:57:28 | Kalthare | blueworm: http://kalthare.dyndns.org/fwpart.gz |
| 23:58:39 | blueworm | I just dd if=fwpart of=/dev/sdx1 ?? |
| 23:58:56 | Kalthare | blueworm: Yeah. |
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