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#rockbox log for 2006-11-13

00:00:35cinicI am sorry my English is not good :S
00:01:13 Quit petur ("sssssssssss---------PLOP!")
00:01:41rashercinic: a duplicate (don't know if this is easier to understand)?
00:02:17cinicWhat can I make? The program rockbox interests me much
00:04:00cinic:S
00:04:51hcscinic: you have to follow the instructions on that page for the iPod video
00:05:00cinicok
00:05:14hcsyou still need the bootloader-nano.bin file, though
00:06:06hcsso in step 4 you will run:
00:06:06hcsipod_fw -g video -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader-nano.bin
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00:06:51cinicI must make his stages?
00:08:06cinicTell me the stages to be made and I will carry out them
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00:10:45hcsipod_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 bootpartition.bin
00:10:45hcsipod_fw -o apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin -e 1 bootpartition.bin
00:10:45hcsipod_fw -g video -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader-nano.bin
00:11:07amiconnHmm, seems my calculation was wrong...
00:11:18hcsthen finally: ipodpatcher -w 1 rockboot.bin
00:11:36cinicok
00:12:13hcsTo warn you, I do not own an iPod nano, this is from the instructions on rockbox.org
00:12:22hcshttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation
00:12:35cinicok
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00:15:38smp500Did the Kalthare patch render ID3-based browsing impossible? - it says 'Error accessing playlist control file'
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00:19:11markunsmp500: if ID3 based browsing did work without the patch and it doesn't work with the patch.. then yes
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00:20:52smp500I have a 5.5G, so I have never run it without the patch. Somewhere it was said that the patch cut out some playlist code
00:20:58amiconnThe patch isn't stable
00:21:33amiconnFailing access to .playlist_control was reported by Kalthare himself
00:22:19smp500Anything else that the patch breaks? Everything else seems to work
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00:27:06cinicHcs can you talk me in private
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00:28:58hcscinic: maybe, but you are not able to respond
00:30:35Soap_I'm sorry, I got called to the door.
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00:31:54markunhcs: you can allow messages from unregistered nicks
00:32:01hcsyes, I just did that
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00:54:21*amiconn wonders why the ipod is boosted after boot, while the iriver is not
00:54:46amiconnThe boost counter shows a question mark after the value
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00:55:23amiconn...and there are 2 more bugs in that screen
00:56:00amiconn(1) The directions for increasing/decreasing the boost count are swapped
00:56:52amiconn(2) When decreasing below zero, the boost_counter still shows zero, but the frequency changes to a value which doesn't match any of the predefined values
00:58:00amiconnIpod: boosted 75000000, normal 30000000, idle 24000000, but shows 13222784 (!) when trying to "unboost" below zero
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01:00:05rasherMagnificent
01:02:17amiganIs CVS going really really slowly for anyone else? I'm checking out and it's taking forever to get the fonts...my OS tells me the interface it's on is only going at 2kb/s
01:12:58preglowthe box is usually pretty busy these times
01:15:44rashersenab was complaining earlier today about the cvs speed
01:15:54amiganAh
01:16:06amiganThe co just finished. cool. =]
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01:16:23rashercould simply be increased website trafic or something else entirely
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01:45:57JdGordondoes anyone know of a windows program that lets you stream tv (from a tvtuner) across the network?
01:46:24rashervlc might be able to do it
01:47:17JdGordonhmm.. cheers, i tinhk it might
01:51:51*JdGordon wonders if vlc can invert colours from the tuner
01:52:10rasherI believe there's an invert filter
01:52:32rasherdon't know how you'd go about applying it to the tuner output though
01:52:32JdGordongreat, i might have to put a bigger hard disk in my dads comp :p
01:56:07Nimdaemahna mahna
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02:09:21jhMikeSpreglow: you did the original spdif code for h120, right? can't recall for sure.
02:13:44preglowjhMikeS: myes
02:13:49preglowmost of it, i think
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02:16:54preglowif you've gotta question, you've got about one minute before bed-time :>
02:19:51preglowand i'm out
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02:41:48jhMikeSjust thinking of moving stuff around and want proper credit in the files
02:45:11*jhMikeS wonders why the x5 battery bench was stopped at 3.65V, should be able to run to 3.3V. Trying again...
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03:09:19JdGordonmy rockbox source trees take up 520mb!
03:10:04rashertrim those build dirs sailor
03:10:22JdGordonyeah, i keep forgetting to do that :p
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03:10:47JdGordoneven still.. there is 50mb of source in each tree... (the bmps take up al the space)
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03:21:18jhMikeSThat's not bad, I get 710MB not including an experimental tree
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05:01:52rocksiclethought I'd fucked my Iriver, but I reset it and all was well
05:01:54rocksicleso... bye
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05:35:02Nimdaeyou know, i think i'm gonna start browsing the source and stuff
05:35:10Nimdaesee if i can understand it enough to make some hacks and whatnot
05:40:57Nimdaeshould i check out rockbox or rockbox-dev?
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05:41:05daurnimatoryo
05:41:10Nimdaeahoy
05:41:19hcsrockbox-dev includes the simulator, which is very handy
05:41:38Nimdaeis that the only difference?
05:41:44hcsI think so, not sure
05:42:05hcsand it's rockbox-devel, I think
05:44:07Nimdaethe wiki seems to indicate the simulator is all that's different
05:44:41hcsif you want my opinion, get rockbox-devel
05:44:48Nimdaeaaand my home linux box doesn't have cvs
05:53:15Nimdaeheh, the wiki says ploink in the build page
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06:03:59mrfatcatti need the 129 firware for iriver h340
06:04:06mrfatcattbut the link goes to korean and i cant read korean
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06:29:19davide-nycjhMikeS: howdy!
06:29:36davide-nycdid you see that optical bug reported in the forum?
06:45:43hcsblah, I'm using the apple firmware again for a bit, it really sucks in terms of flexibility
06:49:53Nimdaemeh, cvs isn't letting me use an empty password for read-only
06:50:29hcsmaybe you're misspelling ""
06:51:41Nimdaei must have been misspelling something
06:51:45Nimdaei copied and pasted and it worked
06:52:08hcsI can never manage to type that line correctly, either
06:52:15hcsit never seems wrong... just doesn't work
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07:08:52Nimdaewell, i think since my ipod has literally been going all day without a reboot while sitting on the speaker dock running rockbox, it seems pretty stable
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07:14:59jhMikeSdavide-nyc: small letters today?
07:15:36jhMikeSdavide-nyc: no. is it about the output?
07:16:06BHSPitLappydoes the ipod play through the dock in rockbox?
07:19:47Nimdaeyes
07:19:56Nimdaei'm doing it this very moment
07:20:41Nimdaehmmm...i need to checkout ipl too
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07:45:33daurnimatoryo JdGordon
07:45:48JdGordonhey
07:45:55JdGordonsup?
07:46:01daurnimatornm
07:46:04daurnimatorthinking about dinner
07:46:32JdGordon:'( grr i have to go shopping for dinner
07:46:34JdGordonbbl
07:46:38daurnimatorwait
07:46:40daurnimator@ coles?
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08:05:12Nimdaemeh, building this build environment on my p3 box is slo
08:05:15Nimdae*slow
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08:30:51pethernHello. I need some help from a Wiki administrator. I want to upload a file to the voice EWiki and need access rights to upload.
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08:31:46scorcheyour wikiname?
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08:38:50JdGordonhaha
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08:41:54daurnimatorlol
08:42:02daurnimatormaybe its /quit
08:42:04daurnimator;)
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09:10:26Nimdaewow
09:10:28Nimdaeso
09:10:34Nimdaei'm looking at this c source code
09:10:35Nimdaeand i'm lost
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09:10:44Nimdaemaybe i shouldn't try hacking it
09:10:55*scorche hands Nimdae some asm
09:11:05*Nimdae explodes
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09:11:44*daurn|laptop eats the peices
09:11:49daurn|laptopyum
09:15:06Nimdaei just found something interesting...on cpu clock on the ipod, ipl seems to have a lower value of 24 mhz and an upper value of 75, whereas rockbox has a lower of 30 and an upper of 75
09:15:13Nimdaemaybe i'm reading this wrong
09:18:29LinusNsounds likely
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09:19:30Nimdaewhy would they be different?
09:19:50markunNimdae: why not?
09:20:16Nimdaewell, i don't understand hardware so i'm trying to understand ;)
09:20:36Nimdaewould there be an advantage to using 24mhz over 30mhz? maybe with timings or whatnot?
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09:20:59markunyou want to minimize frequency switching
09:21:14markunso you don't want to make the lower one too low
09:21:45Nimdaei can understand that
09:21:45markunbut if things don't ever boost at 30 mhz you could try to lower it to increase battery time a bit
09:21:57linuxstbIIRC, 24mhz is the default frequency when the ipod boots. Unless they've changed it recently, IPL boosts the CPU to 75MHz on boot and leaves it there.
09:22:26Nimdaewell, there appears to be code for cpu scaling
09:23:05linuxstbWhere?
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09:23:28Nimdaefunction ipod_set_cpu_speed()
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09:23:56Nimdaelinux/arch/armnommu/mach-ipod/hardware.c
09:24:32linuxstbThat function is the one used during boot - it doesn't take any parameters, it just sets the CPU to 75MHz.
09:24:45Nimdaeah
09:24:54Nimdaeretarded
09:25:06Nimdaeseems backwards
09:25:42Nimdaei guess that means ipl on ipod doesn't have very good run times, then?
09:25:57NHealkornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net
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09:26:01Nimdaewell, ipl would only be on ipod
09:26:14Nimdaebecause it's ipodlinux
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09:38:46Nimdaei keep getting more and more tempted to try the coprocessor patch
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09:46:22dan_aNimdae: There are problems with the coprocessor patch at the moment, and I've not synced it to CVS for a while. But don't let that stop you trying it!
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09:47:16Nimdaewell, you know, getting it used is the only way to test it
09:47:26Nimdaelooks like i gotta update the bootloader too though
09:47:37Nimdaeheh, wow, my ipod has been running for 49 hours
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09:49:18DeefThere was a patch to charge the h340 via USB in Rockbox
09:49:42DeefJust wondering if that patch is included in the current builds now
09:49:42Nimdaeinteresting, when using the click wheel, the backlight process runs
09:51:06scorchewhat is so odd about that?
09:51:13scorcheerrr..interesting
09:51:15scorche=)
09:51:52Nimdaewell, i can understand that interacting witht he device should reset the timer for turning off the backlight
09:51:53wehnDeef, I thought you held down record when inserting the usb cable. haven't really tried a full charge though. AC adaptors quicker.
09:52:24Nimdaebut with the nature of the clickwheel on the ipods, is it possible it could be polling that process more aggressively than normal buttons?
09:53:11Deefhttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4770
09:53:14DeefI'm confused about this patch then
09:53:26DeefTheywere still going on about it in September
09:53:58DeefBut from reading another patch, the hold-rec-to-charge-via-USB was implemented at least by June
09:55:52Nimdaedoes rockbox have a mechanism to detect when a button is down and when it is up? if so, perhaps the backlight timer reset could be set to reset timer and pause it on button press, then on release, resume timer
09:56:07*Nimdae comes up with more hairbrained ideas
09:56:42wehnDeef, well when i tried it yesterday. it kind of works. didn't charge too well but, the voltage went up a little on Debug. Could be just that my USB ports are a little too pissweak,
09:57:06Nimdaewehn: is it a dell?
09:57:31DeefHmm
09:57:53DeefDO you remember if the status bar's battery icon was animated?
09:57:55wehnNo it was from the USB header pins on a Via miniITX board.
09:58:05Nimdaeheh
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09:58:19Nimdaei work with dells, they have all kinds of odd peripheral power issues
09:58:35wehndeef, i don't think it was, but a plug icon appeared. and it didn't go into USB mode.
09:58:40Deefyeah
09:58:41Deefok
09:59:01wehni'll have another go now.
09:59:14DeefI'm getting what you just described anyway
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10:01:23wehnno actually it's not the normal plug icon. it looks kind of hollow, and faces a different way. and no charging icon.
10:01:47wehnno charging animation i mean
10:02:00Deefahyeah, that plug
10:02:20wehnwhat is that plug? usb icon?
10:02:20Nimdaedoh, dan_a timed out and i have a question about his patch >.>
10:02:45linuxstbAsk anyway - maybe someone else can answer, or he'll read the logs and reply later.
10:02:59DeefSorry
10:03:06DeefYeah, that icon you described
10:03:16DeefOther way and hollow
10:03:32DeefTo represent USB charging I guess
10:03:33Nimdaeis the kernel_on_cop_4.diff just the patch for running the kernel on the coprocessor, or does it also include the code for running the codec on the coprocessor as well?
10:03:52wehndeef: i'll geta camera..
10:04:21Deefheh ok
10:05:23linuxstbNimdae: It runs the codec thread on the cop.
10:06:35Nimdaeok, i'm gonna try applying the patch
10:06:38Nimdaebrb while i fail
10:06:38Nimdae:P
10:08:01*pondlife wishes his H340 was as responsive as his Archos Recorder 10
10:09:12*wehn has also noticed his mates H120 is more responsive. maybe ajust a bit jelous.
10:09:50DeefWhat happened with the camera?
10:10:43DeefI didn't know the h340 had such charging issues
10:10:55DeefDon't all ipods just charge and sync by default?
10:10:59pondlifeNot sure if it's just the HWCODEC being better, or that the old (Aug 2005) version of Rockbox was better...
10:11:15wehndeef, my camera sux, quite a few of the button's don't work. bah, pulling out card to see what i got ("play amoungst those that don)
10:16:13Nimdaeeh, the patch fails on the latest cvs checkout, i'll wait for a newer release
10:16:19Nimdaecd ..
10:16:22Nimdaewrong window
10:16:27Deeflol
10:16:35DeefAfter holding record and plugging in USB only, playing music is still draining the battering
10:16:40Deefbattery even
10:17:52DeefIn the Arctic Desert theme, the battery icon changes to full and sits there
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10:18:39DeefI was running music off the h340 for a session at my job
10:18:51DeefWasn't impressed with it dying halfway through
10:19:20DeefMeanwhile, there's this device http://www.boxwave.com/products/minisync/minisync-retractable-cable-iriver-h320_359.htm
10:19:49DeefWhich suggests it should be able to actually charge from USB alone
10:19:59wehnodd plug icon: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/frazw/img_5463-1.jpg
10:20:05DeefAtm I'm living off the battery pack alot more than expected
10:21:13Deefyeah
10:21:28DeefAnd you really saw that increase charge?
10:22:01wehnit just may have been the battery "recovering" since I had stopped playing and just looked at the debug screen.
10:22:13Deef*nods*
10:22:25DeefBut if its not charging, what is the point of this hold-rec feature at all
10:22:50DeefI'm gonna leave it playing and go shop
10:23:04DeefSee how it goes
10:23:14wehndon't know, but i'd also be pretty happy if it could charge while plugged in as an external drive. (or at least drain slower)
10:23:21DeefYeah
10:23:23DeefThat kills me
10:23:40DeefI take it to work and I stress
10:23:55DeefWhy do ipods not have this problem =[
10:25:56LinusNwhy do you compare h300 and ipod in the first place? they have totally different hardware
10:26:15DeefThey're both mp3 players, so I compare
10:27:17Nimdaeactually, ipods don't charge via usb while running rockbox
10:27:43scorcheactually, they can
10:27:45Nimdaeat least that's the general consensus
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10:27:59Nimdaewell, they can and they do are different
10:28:08Nimdaeif it's not playing, it might charge ;)
10:28:09scorchehold menu while inserting the cable...
10:28:10DeefThey can sync and charge, at least with the original firmware
10:28:16DeefThat would be enough for me
10:29:04Nimdaescorche: yeah, that allows you to keep using rockbox while connected to usb, but does it charge? last i heard and saw, it apparently doesnt' draw enoughp ower to charge
10:29:19Nimdae*doesn't *enough power
10:29:38scorcheit depends, but i experience a net gain on my nano most of the time
10:29:50scorchejust because it sint a net gain doesnt mean it isnt charging
10:29:57Nimdaenano also doesn't have a hard drive :P
10:30:11scorchei was using it as an example...
10:30:11Nimdaewell, i'm sure if i run it from usb, i'll get an extended amount of play time
10:30:19Nimdaei haven't really tested
10:30:33scorcheregardless, they do charge from usb
10:30:37DeefI avoided the ipod because of plans to travel
10:30:44Deefradio recording, USBOTG etc
10:31:01DeefPart of that was assuming I wouldn't need the AC adapter
10:31:09Nimdaei kinda have my eye on the gigabeat right now
10:31:25pondlifeDoes the H300 hardware allow for USB charging and usage as a drive at the same time?
10:31:40DeefNow I wonder what kind of hostel I would have to camp at to leave an mp3 player plugged into a PC all night
10:31:52Deefsafely, that is
10:32:32LinusNpondlife: i believe you will charge very, very slowly if the drive is spinning
10:32:55LinusNassuming you can draw 500mA from the usb port
10:33:12pondlifeJust wondered why the RetailOS has a USB charge on/off setting - just to limit current draw I suppose.
10:33:20LinusNyes
10:33:31LinusNso it doesn't spin up the drive
10:33:38DeefEven the sync+charge adapters you can buy actually plug into the USB + the AC ports
10:33:51pondlifeAs does the iRiver cradle
10:34:00LinusNand it also has a usb hub setting, to select between 100mA or 500mA current draw
10:34:23DeefBut the cradle doesn't try to pretend its supplying a charge
10:34:57pondlifeNo, it's just a dumb adapter.
10:35:47pondlifeLinusN: I also wondered what the "hub" setting did. Not likely to have any impact on the bootloader-not-USB mode then. :(
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10:36:52LinusNwell, it can have an impact, if the usb port can't deliver
10:37:13pondlifeI assume hub is the 500mA mode?
10:38:01peturpondlife: it does affect something: disconnecting from bootloader made the bootloader crash in one of the two settings. But only when connected to my DELL LCD at work.
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10:38:55pondlifeDoes that indicate that the bootloader USB mode isn't initialising something? It's not actually reading the iRiver settings is it?
10:39:26peturno, but the iriver changes something in hardware that we don't
10:39:36pondlifeThat's what I meant.
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10:41:42DeefPerhaps it is really a hardware thing
10:42:12Deefie, it just won't allow drawing power while sync
10:42:13Deefd
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10:42:22Deef*sync'd
10:42:42BuG56hello
10:43:28markunNimdae: which one?
10:43:50Nimdaethe newest one, maybe the 60gb if i can afford it
10:44:08markunok, but be warned that rockbox will not run on it for a long time
10:44:13*petur doesn't know what to think about being greeted by a bug in the morning ;)
10:44:21BuG56hehe
10:44:29BuG56I have rockbox on an iriver h10 20g the music folder is on the root directory and sorted by artist then album, but on the original iriver firmware you were able to select ALL artists or all albums etc. Is there anyway to do this on rockbox?
10:44:40Nimdaei understand
10:44:47Nimdaebut i also understand it's being worked on, heh
10:44:56peturyes, create a playlist and use recursive
10:45:00LinusNBuG56: you have to create a playlist
10:45:03BuG56recursive?
10:45:34peturI think it asks if you want to add all files in all subdirs
10:45:36Nimdaedon't worry, i'm not one to pester people and whine because everyone is ignoring it ;)
10:45:48Nimdaei'll still have my ipod
10:46:38BuG56what is recursive?
10:47:01peturyou'll see it getting asked on the playlist menu when you select insert
10:47:31peturget the context menu for your music folder and select playlist
10:49:26BuG56strange
10:49:34BuG56i get an error but it flies by too quickly for me to read it
10:49:46BuG56i think it says something about having 0 tracks...
10:49:55BuG56which is strange because i do have plenty of music
10:50:57daurn|laptoplol
10:51:06daurn|laptopall my 12 channels look the same
10:51:25peturBug56: just checked here, it starts at 0 and starts counting up while adding them
10:51:30daurn|laptopeach have mostly 2 people talking, starting with N or B
10:52:39BuG56how fast does it count?
10:52:46Nimdaei haven't really said much lately though
10:52:56peturBuG56: there's also an option under menu -> playlist options ->recursively insert directories
10:53:17peturthe normal menu, that is
10:53:29BuG56ohh
10:53:29LinusNBuG56: Menu->Playlist Settings->Recursively Insert Directories - set it to "on" or "ask"
10:53:33BuG56now its working
10:53:54LinusNgreat
10:55:01BuG56So I access that playlist through playlist options > view current playlist...but its not under the playlist catalog...
10:55:18Nimdaeinteresting, if i terminate a line for a timer in the wps, it resets everything, even the %ac
10:55:30Nimdaeguess that's logical
10:55:51Nimdaei don't want it to
10:57:14BuG56but even if i have created a playlist...its still not what i wanted (sorry for being a bother) i just wanted to add the option of "All" in my album folders and artist so if i select an artist im not confined to one album, is there a way to do this without having to actually make an all folder for each artist?
10:58:14peturLinusN: if you ever get the time, I'm interested in where the usbotg ID (pin 4) and VBUS (pin 1) from the mini-A connector are connected. Is ID connected at all and how is the chargepump operated.
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10:59:37LinusNi believe the id pin goes to a gpio
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11:01:20peturthere's an ID pin on the isp1362 and normally it should go to the connector, I think it goes to a GPIO. So I wondered what's connected to the ID of the connector. Another GPIO or did you confuse the two? ;)
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11:04:13BuG56anybody?
11:04:25amiconnpetur: Vbus is already handled (truned off) in isp1362.c ...
11:05:48peturI guess I'll have to measure VBUS to be sure :/
11:07:07amiconnpondlife: In terms of code simplicity and compactness, Aug 2005 clearly was better by far :\
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11:12:01pondlifeamiconn: I will try the current CVS on my AJR and see if it's slower.
11:12:44amiconnIf you're currently running an old rombox, current cvs will be faster because of no rombox available
11:13:12pondlifeApart from boot time, is rombox slower because it's running from ROM?
11:13:21amiconnyes
11:13:35amiconnIt's almost unnoticeable most of the time
11:13:45amiconn...but e.g. tagcache shows it clearly
11:13:46pondlifeWell the Romboxed AJR is much faster feeling than the H340.
11:14:01pondlifeJust browsing directories etc.
11:14:19pondlifeWith voice enabled too.
11:14:22amiconnYes, and that's with only an 11MHz CPU, no dircache etc
11:14:35pondlifeIndeed. It surprised me.
11:15:19pondlifeI finally got round to fixing my loose connection and charged up the AJR for the first time in a year.
11:17:35amiconnI'm not that surprised...
11:18:00*amiconn uses all of his targets more or less regularly
11:18:14amiconn...and guess why I often prefer one of the archoses...
11:19:06scorchesize! =)
11:19:13scorchewell, space
11:19:24amiconnThat's no reason for me
11:19:35scorcheit is for me =)
11:19:43amiconnMy whole collection fits on a 20GB disk
11:20:00pondlifeI think an 80GB AJR would be pretty ideal for me, if only it were physically a little smaller.
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11:21:29JdGordonslighty old, very OT, and its not like we needed a survey to show.. but top 5 countries to live in..Norway, Iceland, Australia, Ireland and Sweden <- notice the order :D http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=160726
11:22:04*petur starts dreaming of iceland again
11:23:57JdGordonamiconn: have you had a chance to look at the actions in plugins patch?
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11:32:01DeefYou from Australia Jd?
11:32:08JdGordonyep
11:32:50voyeurtime for me to change of country :\
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11:33:36DeefAs expected as it is, I still find it funny that they say Africa ranks low because of AIDS
11:34:04Deef"Can't have good sex there"
11:34:07Deef"Lets put it last"
11:35:07Kasperleuhm. maybe it's due to the fact that a very large percentage of the population has AIDS (as compared to other countries/continents) and that makes _their_ lives quite miserable?
11:35:32DeefYes yes
11:35:55DeefI was putting my little spin on it
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11:54:23JdGordonsweet... i think actions for plugins could actually be done very painlessly
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12:01:57JdGordonwhat do I do about remote buttons?
12:02:35LinusNsame thing i guess, but i think we can leave them for now
12:03:03JdGordonmetronome was simple to convert
12:03:21JdGordonjust needed 2 custom keymap lists which are a breeze to add
12:03:31JdGordonill put the patch up in a few min
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12:13:26ravonAnyone using an X5 version compiled from CVS?
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12:18:40JdGordonwhich apt package has cvsdo?
12:19:38Genre9mp3"Backdrop support for greyscale targets. WPS backdrop is untested." −−-> WPS backdrop works fine (at least on the sim)
12:20:45wehnJdGordon, http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=cvsdo tells me it's cvsutils.
12:21:13JdGordondamn, no package on ubuntu!
12:21:56daurn|laptopJdGordon: any chance to get that SD card soon?
12:22:22JdGordonsoon as in tonight? no, tommorw most probably
12:22:32daurn|laptoptomorrow of course
12:22:34daurn|laptop;)
12:26:04JdGordonis it stupid buying a ps2 or xbox now? i dont have the money for any new gen (unless the wii's are gonna be cheap), and i want to get some gaming in..
12:27:01daurn|laptopget a psp
12:27:19JdGordondont really want a portable thing
12:27:20daurn|laptopplaying consoles on tv is overrated
12:27:22JdGordoni _think_
12:27:34daurn|laptopmuch better playing on computer than TV
12:27:59JdGordonfor $250 i can get an xbox/ps2 and a few games and 4 controllers... or a psp with no games,
12:28:07ravonGet a chipped xbox
12:28:25ravonThe games are horrible, but it's versatile.
12:28:58daurn|laptopseriously, you have a computer
12:29:03daurn|laptopjust download some games
12:29:08daurn|laptopmaybe pay for 1 or 2
12:29:11JdGordoncomp is a POS
12:29:25JdGordoncelly 2.4, 512mb ram, radeaon 9250
12:29:28daurn|laptopthen upgrade it - you always will need to sooner or later
12:29:59JdGordonnot enough $$$ to do it properyl
12:30:21blue_lizardhello all
12:30:34blue_lizardwhich rockbox hardware has HAVE_MULTIVOLUME?
12:30:43blue_lizard#ifdef HAVE_MULTIVOLUME
12:31:08JdGordonondios by the looks of it
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12:32:13Pumaim new to this
12:32:38blue_lizardwhy do things at the begining lokk so simple and get so complicate over timr...
12:32:43JdGordondoes anyone have a ifp?
12:32:50JdGordonblue_lizard: its fun that way
12:33:16amiconnGenre9mp3: So... will backdrop support be helpful for iCatcher?
12:34:01amiconnblue_lizard: Multivolume is primarily used on ondios, but you can compile it for other targets as well
12:34:26amiconnSome people used that on nano to get a little extra space w/o resizing the main partition
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12:36:37ehirdHi. I added rockbox+ipodlinux and loads of other carp when I still used windows and wanted to start anew and redo everything today, but I use linux now. Nevertheless, I found the backup and wrote it to the ipod. Predictably, I get the notice telling me to go to the support site to restore it - great. But... its only for windows/mac and doesn't work on linux. Ideas on how to restore it to apple os?
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12:47:09JdGordonamiconn: i know im being annoying, but have you looked at fs 6320? i tinhk its good to go unless someone comes up with a better way
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12:59:05Genre9mp3amiconn: I think it won't be helpful, I loaded X5 iCatcher on H100 (same size), I expected a nice effect on up/bottom bars but it seems that 4gray is not enough (excluding one pixel-line within the upper bar, everything else is white)
12:59:10pondlifelostlogic: around?
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13:00:05Genre9mp31) most chances are to have a worse result (icons will be harder to read)
13:00:29Genre9mp32) unnecessary bmp size for no reason (most part of the backdrop in iCatcher is white)
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13:36:01linium, are there any known problems with the recent CVS updates and battery status?
13:36:13JdGordonyes
13:36:18linioh ok
13:36:42linithat explains why my ipod has been showing 10% for the last 2 hours :)
13:41:31ehirdhaha
13:54:08Aveweird stuff
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15:00:37theoneHello, does anyone know where I can purchase a replacement battery for the H340? With some preliminary searches, it seems I need: IONITY LiP385585 but am unable to locatea source to buy from. The relation this has to RB is that the player randomly cuts off and shows a very low battery level when in fact it could have just come from a full charge & 30 minutes of playing.
15:03:13theoneRespond at any time if you have input; I'll just check the logs if I'm not here, thanks.
15:04:33n1s./ro
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15:20:22Genre9mp3theone: I _think_ that Ionity batteries are out of stock and not produced anymore
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15:20:30Genre9mp3argh :/
15:20:44Genre9mp3bad timing
15:23:20Genre9mp3theone: anyway... you can try purchase a Cameron Sino though
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15:31:07webguest50theone: go to mistic river and check out the forums, battery mod FAQ's are available for the H340 as wellas tons of other info http://www.misticriver.net/forums.php
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17:01:18nistnesushello
17:01:28nistnesuscan someone help me out?
17:01:43nistnesusi just installed rockbox on an ipod nano 1st gen
17:02:03nistnesusproblem is I dont have the entire diskspace available anymore
17:02:42nistnesusmy ipod now only shows less than a gig of disk space
17:02:46nistnesuswhich should be 2 gig
17:03:00nistnesusmaybe fdisk related?
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17:04:07nistnesusrockbox is working fine besides the issue of having only half the diskspace I used to have
17:04:20nistnesus(using linux)
17:04:29nistnesusany help would be appreciated
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17:04:58mrfatcatti need the 129 firware for iriver h340
17:05:02mrfatcattbut the link goes to korean and i cant read korean
17:05:22rashermrfatcatt: I have it on rasher.dk/rockbox/iriver-firmwares/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/iriver-firmwares/
17:05:58nistnesuscan I paste my fdisk list here?
17:06:24nistnesusi'm guessing the problem is caused by the partioning
17:06:40rashernistnesus: If it's many lines, please use something like http://pastebin.ca
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17:09:05nistnesusok my fdisk is on http://pastebin.ca/247501
17:09:14nistnesuscan anyone see something wrong with that?
17:09:45nistnesusit seems correct to me
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17:10:06nistnesusI wonder where I lost the remaining diskspace
17:12:05nistnesusfdisk is showing the right capacity of volume
17:12:20rasherWhat does Rockbox say? "Info -> Debug -> harddisk something"
17:12:20nistnesusbut the drive only shows half of what it should be
17:12:26nistnesusi'll try
17:14:26nistnesusthere's no harddisk option
17:14:33rasherHang on
17:15:08rasher"view disk info"?
17:15:21Mmmminfo->rockbox info
17:15:32nistnesusyes
17:15:35nistnesusi'm checking partitions
17:15:37nistnesusit says
17:16:55nistnesusp0: s:3f
17:17:05nistnesust:0 78 mb
17:17:27rasherthat's the first
17:17:32nistnesusp1: s:27390
17:17:33rasherscroll and it should show p1
17:17:47nistnesust:b 1866 mb
17:17:51rasherlooks right
17:17:52markunlooks ok to me
17:17:54nistnesusyup
17:18:09rasherare you sure you don't have music in that Ipod weird hidden directory?
17:18:22nistnesuswell i did an ls -a
17:18:37nistnesusand didn't find anything weird outside the regular dirs
17:18:46nistnesusbut I deleted some files and dirs earlier
17:18:59rasherWhat does info -> rockbox info say?
17:18:59nistnesuscreated by itunes (ipod_control) etc
17:19:24nistnesusbuffer 29,852 mb
17:19:31markunnistnesus: then where did you see that the driver is only 1gb now?
17:19:36nistnesus87% 7u 50m
17:19:39nistnesusin gnome
17:19:58nistnesusdisk: 1,81 gb
17:20:08nistnesusavailable: 736 mb
17:20:15nistnesusthat seems right
17:20:36nistnesusbut i'm not using 1 gb
17:20:43nistnesusso some files must be hanging around somewhere still
17:20:59rasherMaybe you need to recalculate the free diskspace thing
17:21:37markunnistnesus: what does "du -h" show you?
17:22:07nistnesusi'll check
17:22:32mrfatcattthank
17:23:01nistnesusi'll use pastebin again
17:23:27nistnesushttp://pastebin.ca/247517
17:24:48rasherYeah, looks like you need to recalculate the free diskspace info... now if I could only remember how
17:24:57rasherit's in the debug menu somewhere
17:25:16nistnesusi'll give it a shot
17:25:23Mmmmjust press select in info->rockbox info
17:25:37markunMmmm: why?
17:25:41markunwhat are you trying to do?
17:25:51Mmmmrecalculate diskspace
17:25:53rasherAh, that's it
17:25:54nistnesustrying to recalculate free diskspace
17:26:02rasherI could have sworn it was under debug
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17:28:55rasher Ah! "1.147 - Moved the free diskspace scan into 'Rockbox Info'. Idea based on patch #4800 by Manuel Dejonghe."
17:29:06nistnesusit reset to original firmware
17:29:10nistnesusgrmbl
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17:29:17nistnesussame issue though
17:30:13rasherIt reset to original firmware? When you pressed select?
17:30:52nistnesusyes when I unmounted and reset
17:31:18nistnesusmaybe it'd better format the drive
17:31:25nistnesus*I'd
17:31:30rasherNono, just Go into Info -> Rockbox info and press select?
17:31:38nistnesusrockbox is gone from my ipod
17:31:48rasherIt... is? What did you do?
17:32:04nistnesuslike I said it switched to default firmware
17:32:09rasherSo just reboot
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17:32:10nistnesusbecause of a rockbox error
17:33:05rasherJust reboot back into Rockbox
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17:33:30rasherand go into info -> rockbox info and press select
17:34:10nistnesuswait
17:34:58nistnesusit refuses to boot in rockbox
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17:36:05rasherWhat happens?
17:37:02nistnesusrockbox got messed up unmounting unproperly
17:37:07nistnesusnow it boots in rockbox again
17:37:10nistnesusreinstalled it
17:37:16nistnesuslemme check info rockbox
17:37:44nistnesusstill giving wrong free diskspace
17:37:50rasherPress select
17:38:12nistnesuspressing select doesnt do anything
17:38:34nistnesusok
17:38:35rasherHang on then... try pressing a couple of buttons..
17:38:38Mmmmmaybe it's another button on the ipod
17:38:42nistnesusit searched the disk
17:38:49nistnesusdisk is being searched
17:38:51nistnesusbut no change
17:39:07rasherThen it did do something didn't it?
17:39:11rasherexit and enter again
17:39:15nistnesusyes
17:39:31nistnesusno change
17:39:58rasherMaybe you should run fsck.vfat on it
17:40:07nistnesuslemme try
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17:41:59nistnesusfsck.vfat /mnt/ipoddosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFNRead 512 bytes at 0:Is a directory
17:42:16rasherYeah, that's not how you run fsck
17:42:28rasherunmount and run fsck.vfat /dev/sdXX
17:42:31rasherwhatever the device is
17:42:47theonedoes anyone know the default battery capacity for the iRiver H340? I think I may have discovered a problem that may _not_ be a bad battery but software-related (haven't tested a lot though)
17:42:49nistnesusfsck.vfat /dev/sda1dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFNCurrently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 123.
17:43:28n1shteone 1300 mAh
17:43:44nistnesusfsck.vfat /dev/sda2dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFNopen /dev/sda2:No such file or directory
17:44:03theonen1s, thanks
17:44:26nistnesushm i checked my fstab
17:44:32nistnesusmy mistake it's /dev/ipod
17:44:35nistnesuslemme try again
17:44:44markuntheone: which software problem did you find?
17:45:39nistnesuschecking second fat ...
17:45:48theonenot sure but it might be the battery capacity setting
17:46:45theone& using stored settings
17:47:11nistnesusit's normal this takes a while?
17:48:13theoneI used to have an X5, and the config01.cfg had a battery capacity of 950mAh; Using those settings, if I go into battery capacity, 950mAh isn't even listed, but 3200mAh is selected, so I don't know if it's using 3200mAh or 950mAh
17:48:32theoneUsing those settings ^on my H340^
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17:48:54theoneeither way 3200 & 950 mAh are wrong
17:49:00n1stheone: the capacity setting should only affect estimated time left.
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17:49:37n1smaybe something changed with the recent batterylevel-thing-commit?
17:49:42theonen1s, that's the _only_ thing battery capacity is for?
17:50:00theonehas nothing to do with voltage readings?
17:50:20theonereadings/calculations I shoudl say
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17:51:59n1stheone: Im not 100% sure but that is the way it used to be
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17:57:28nistnesusaha!
17:57:31nistnesusit found a bad cluster
17:58:04nistnesuscluster summary wrong
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17:58:56nistnesusFree cluster summary wrong (188489 vs. really 450657)
17:59:04nistnesuswhich explains a lot
17:59:29nistnesusstrange thing is it didn't accept my choice to correct it so I'm running it again
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18:18:10Davide-NYCjhMikeS: morning
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18:18:45Davide-NYCdid you get the email I sent regarding the optical out turning on and off in an unwanted manner?
18:18:59Davide-NYCsomeone else found that (embarassed)
18:19:15jhMikeShaven't looked yet, but as I said, it was the next thing I was going to fix up
18:19:28jhMikeSworking on it now btw
18:19:31Davide-NYCcool, just wanted to make sure it was on your radar.
18:19:35Davide-NYCthanks
18:20:33jhMikeSI was aware of it the first time I tested the unit optically
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18:29:52nistnesusproblem solved
18:30:07nistnesusthank you very much for your help, rasher
18:30:12nistnesusyou're the man! ;-)
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18:38:18defecthello :I
18:39:17webguest77anyone help me? I can't get Rockbox to work correctly for me.
18:41:07n1splease be a little more specific
18:41:34webguest77I have freezing issues much worse than I've seen described on several forums.
18:42:06n1sipod 4g/photo/color ?
18:42:39webguest77yes Ipod 4G greyscale, HP+Ipod to be exact 40GB
18:42:53rashernistnesus: you're welcome
18:44:16webguest77It freezes 10-14 times in a row on bootup and when I do get the menuI can't load a song until another ** number of tries it just freezes.
18:44:29n1sthe freezing is a known issue, there are a couple of patches here http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6095 but I don't know if any of them really fixes it, the only "solution" for now is to set the cpu to full boost all the time.
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18:44:58n1shmm sounds worse than ive heard before
18:45:02nistnesusbye
18:45:38webguest77Yes and to be sure its not a fluke I did another one same exact type but it is a refurb instead if new and it does the exact same thing
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18:47:15webguest77If a song does play then it goes about 1/4 of the somg then freezes, I did manage to get toa few songs aending with two or three seconds left and then it freezes
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18:50:46webguest77any help is appreciated
18:51:45n1swebguest77: sorry I don't have an ipod so I can't really help you further than direct you to the tracker task I posted here earlier or the forum.
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19:02:07jhMikeSIs the IEC958 specification something you have to purchase? Info isn't too forthcoming on Google about it.
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19:02:51leftrightany playback gurus here ?
19:02:55maquishas anybody here had problems with saturday's build for ipod mini1g?
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19:04:09maquisi installed the build on saturday, and was able to play a short game of doom on it for testing purposes
19:04:29maquislast night, it gave some sort of low battery warning when i tried to turn it on
19:04:53maquistoday, even though it's plugged in to power, i can't get it to respond at all
19:05:45jhMikeShrm...I'm having troubles running a battery bench down to 3.3V and wonder if the latest power update may have something to do with it. :-\
19:06:04jhMikeSeven though I disabled the low batter shutdown
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19:07:00leftrightlostlogic, pondlife, lowlight, slasheri, preglow : gapless appears borked, there's a "bump" or artifact at track transitions with recent builds, no crossfade, no voice, no auto change directory. all music encoded with LAME 3.90.3 −−alt-preset standard
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19:07:25preglowreally now
19:07:34leftrightreally really ;-)
19:07:47preglowwell, we'll see about that!
19:07:49preglowi'll do a quick test
19:08:03leftrightfull steam ahead
19:09:13leftrightand albums/music were left to play without seeking
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19:11:37preglowi can't hear anything
19:11:42pregloweven when seeking
19:11:52leftrighterr, you must hear music at least
19:12:00preglow?
19:12:08preglowno gap
19:12:17amiconnjhMikeS: I have a question regarding dithering
19:12:17preglowi hear music, but it's gapless
19:12:34leftrightits not a gap, but an artifact
19:12:44jhMikeSamiconn: yeah?
19:12:49amiconnIt looks like the dithering you added for 16bit is regular. Is that correct? How did you compute the matrix?
19:13:01amiconn(or rather, the matrices)
19:13:13preglowleftright: i can't hear gap nor artifact
19:13:16XavierGrhmm strange! MisticRiver advertises that it can repair old iriver models (H100 and H300) included. Cases, windows buttons and even pcb damages!
19:13:17leftrightpreglow: well, let it play across a few tracks
19:13:33preglowleftright: just mp3s?
19:13:35jhMikeSI did it years ago and can't remember exactly but I've got the code I did around somewhere.
19:13:48leftrightpreglow, yes just mp3's
19:14:15leftrightLAME 3.90.3 −−alt-preset standard
19:14:16preglowhaven't got any big mp3 albums
19:14:24preglowbut my gapless test tracks play perfectly
19:14:27jhMikeSI'll give a look for it or figure it out again.
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19:14:50leftrighthrmph, try a whole album if you can
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19:15:01preglowhaven't got any mp3 albums that are gapless
19:15:02preglowi think
19:15:05preglowi mostly use vorbis
19:15:15jhMikeSamiconn: are you needing dithering for something since you added the bg support for grayscale targets?
19:15:22amiconnjhMikeS: I would need a matrix for 6 bit -> 2 bit
19:15:41amiconnErm, 8 bit -> 2 bit, i.e. reduction by 6 bit
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19:17:14*leftright thinks preglow should at least get DSOTM in mp3 as gapless test or some classical music
19:18:06jhMikeS24bit color to 2bit grayscale? Should convert to Y first then dither the luma.
19:18:19amiconnyes
19:18:33amiconnHence 8 bit (luma) -> 2 bit
19:18:50jhMikeScourse you could use error diffusion if you don't like the pattern thing
19:20:33amiconnI will probably fiddle with the bmp loader a bit
19:21:18jhMikeSfound the code
19:21:30jhMikeSIt generates 16x16 but just take one repetition
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19:23:31jhMikeSNow I don't even understand my own code looking at it now :P
19:23:34preglowleftright: mp3 playback code hasn't been touched significantly for ages
19:24:10leftrightuhuh, i think i'm going to stab my ears with a sharp object
19:24:17preglowyou've got replaygain enabled, i see
19:24:21leftrightyes
19:24:26preglowalbum gain mode, i gope?
19:24:28preglowhope
19:24:36leftrightyep album
19:25:12leftrightonly use track mode if shuffling
19:25:39preglowwell, i've tried with all my gapless test tracks, and none have any noticable artifact/gap, apart from the sine one, which always had (and always will have) a small thump
19:25:57markunamiconn: would you like floyd-steinberg dithering?
19:26:04leftrightaha, its that sine wave thingy :->
19:26:32amiconnmarkun: Depends... I'd want to see the result with regular dithering first
19:26:44amiconnMy experience is that f-s is incredibly slow
19:26:52jhMikeSamiconn: I'll have a pastebin in a moment
19:27:03amiconn...and often doesn't look better than regular, just different
19:27:13markunamiconn: but it would only have to be done 1 time while loading the backdrop
19:27:22amiconnyes
19:27:32amiconnBut bitmap loading is already teh slowness
19:27:37leftrightpreglow: do you have any music encoded with LAME 3.90.3 −−a-p s
19:28:03amiconnThat's why I will most likely never actually use it myself other than for testing
19:28:33preglowleftright: all of the test tracks
19:28:39preglowsome version not too far from that, at least
19:28:45amiconnjhMikeS: Hmm, one thing I noticed is that the dither matrix elements are all positive. Is that on purpose?
19:28:48leftrightok
19:30:22jhMikeSyes
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19:30:47jhMikeSthey should be
19:31:24preglowleftright: i'll just wait for further reports from other people, i can't be bothered to encode a bunch of mp3 albums right now
19:31:35preglowand i don't really have the time for any lengthy tests
19:31:36leftrightsure
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19:33:31maquisso, nobody's had brickage from 20061111?
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19:34:15jhMikeSamiconn: http://pastebin.ca/247620
19:34:40*maquis tries not to think too hard as to whether or not it's a good thing that other people aren't experiencing the same problem
19:35:14leftrightbrickage ?
19:35:24jhMikeSFrom a windows program...basically kept a full matrix and rescaled it.
19:36:03markunmaquis: If rockbox bricked your player I think you are the very first one
19:36:04maquisleftright: brickage as in the ipod won't turn on, and won't do anything
19:36:25leftrightah, have a H140 and its working fine :-)
19:36:26barrywardellmaquis: how much charge does your battery have?
19:36:49maquisbarrywardell: it's been plugged in for the past 3 hours
19:37:15maquisit was empty last night...
19:37:23barrywardellpreviously, did your battery read the right level as soon as you turned it on?
19:37:39barrywardellor did it start at 0 and climb up gradually?
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19:37:46maquisthe last thing it told me was that it was out of battery as soon as it was turned on
19:38:00maquisand i haven't been able to turn it on since, even though it's now plugged in and has been for a whle
19:39:14maquisbarrywardell: any idea what could cause that?
19:39:23maquisit didn't seem like it ought to be out of battery last night
19:39:34maquisbecause i hadn't really used it much since saturday
19:39:37maquiswhen i put the firmware on
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19:40:22amiconn??:?:?::??:??
19:40:29amiconnHmmmmmm
19:40:40*amiconn doesn't understand that code snippet :/
19:41:00barrywardellthe changes made on saturday were to have it power off when the battery got below a certain level
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19:41:16maquisbarrywardell: ah... interesting
19:41:24barrywardellmaquis: can you try a build from before saturday and go into the debug screen
19:41:25maquisso, maybe it's not seeing the battery level correctly...
19:41:36barrywardelland tell me what voltage it says for the battery
19:41:43*jhMikeS has to stare at it a bit to remember what he was thinking too
19:41:56maquisbarrywardell: i can try that tonight... i don't have the ability to do that until i get home from work
19:42:26barrywardellit looks like rockbox isn't calibrated for the ipod anyway
19:42:33barrywardellthe ipod battery
19:42:35maquisi had never had problems previously with the battery monitor
19:42:50jhMikeSpMatrix is a pointer to one of the dither matrices...just pick the first one
19:43:30dan_abarrywardell: Any luck with the Sansa?
19:43:36maquisbarrywardell: if you want me to email you the info, you can /msg me your address... otherwise i'll just try to find someone on here who's available to help with it
19:43:54barrywardellmaquis: that's because previously rockbox just kept running when the battery got dangerously low
19:44:09jhMikeScColors was the number of colors in the result, so it would be 4
19:44:13barrywardelldan_a: i have made a few more changes
19:44:20maquisbarrywardell: true... but it also had the little thing claiming how full/empty the battery was, and it appeared generally correct
19:44:26maquisor at least not obviously incorrect
19:44:39barrywardellyour calculation for block_size was a little incorrect
19:45:26barrywardelldan_a: what you calculated for block_size was the max read block size
19:45:38dan_aOoops.
19:45:42jhMikeSamiconn: FODM_MINDIVCOLORS should be 256
19:46:20barrywardellit's all a bit confusing. i'm currently getting a very weird freeze in sd_select_bank()
19:47:15jhMikeSamiconn: It calculated an array that gave the quantized result in a lookup table instead of performing the division on the fly for any arbitrary number of colors out.
19:47:41jhMikeSamiconn: But you don't need it with powers of two
19:47:57barrywardelldan_a:it freezes unless i put a lcd_puts(...);lcd_update(); before the if(). very strange
19:47:59dan_abarrywardell: It's possible that I've got copy_write_sectors totally wrong (I think I copy and pasted that into sd_select_bank to read the data from the card)
19:49:18dan_aOh, that's what I was getting with the reading code. It probably means that the FIFO is being used before it is ready.
19:49:45barrywardelldan_a: i was thinking it must be a timing issue of some sort
19:49:58barrywardelland the lcd_update() delays it long enough.
19:51:25dan_aHang on... it needs a delay before the if()? That doesn't make much sense!
19:51:43barrywardelli know...
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19:54:56dan_aAfter one of the registers had been read, yes, inside the for() loop, definitely. But there, I cannot understand
19:55:30barrywardelldan_a: http://pastebin.ca/247638 gives me test8 on line 11
19:55:54barrywardellwithout the lcd_puts before the if i get nothing on line 11
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19:57:22barrywardelldan_a and having the lcd_puts just inside the if {
19:57:31barrywardellgives nothing on line 11 either
19:58:25barrywardellie. this: http://pastebin.ca/247639 gives me nothing on line 11
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20:00:58barrywardelldan_a: any ideas? it has me totally puzzled
20:01:22dan_aWhat if you have 2 lcd_puts()/lcd_update()s inside the if? I think it must be some kind of timing issue
20:01:53barrywardelli'll try that now...
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20:03:24dan_aOr if you get rid of the if altogether?
20:05:08barrywardellwithout the if it's ok
20:05:46barrywardellwith the if and 8 lcd_puts inside the start of the if it still doesn't work
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20:06:39dan_aWait... what's the inequality operator in C?
20:07:32barrywardellit's !=
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20:16:53dan_aThat's not it then. I'm stumped. I've checked the disassembly (without the puts()) and can't see any obvious problem.
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20:30:02barrywardelldan_a: i've sent you my latest version of the code with the new numblocks calculations
20:30:13barrywardelli gotta go now, but i'll experiment more later
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21:45:41webguest30hi @ all
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21:57:00spugHello! I've been trying to register to the Rockbox forums for a while now, but I never get the activation e-mail.
21:57:58spugOn the "resend activation e-mail" screen, I've also tried to write an alternate e-mail address (a gmail one, as opposed to one on my own domain), but the page just refreshes when I press the button.
21:58:08spugAny ideas? I've checked the spam filter :/
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22:01:18netmasta10btyou have javascript turned on ?
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22:02:08spugyes
22:02:29netmasta10btare you using a funny browser
22:02:48spugI've tried Firefox and Opera
22:03:37netmasta10btweird
22:03:45spugAn Error Has Occurred!
22:03:46spugA new activation email has successfully been sent.
22:03:55netmasta10btheh
22:03:59spugthat's what i get when i try to resend it. i'm confused by that message.
22:04:01netmasta10btthat sounds goofy
22:04:39netmasta10bttry to login and have it send you your password ?
22:04:46netmasta10bti mean reset
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22:06:43spugIt says I have to activate the account first
22:06:57netmasta10btwell you should do that then
22:07:03netmasta10bt:)
22:07:22spugI would, if I had gotten the e-mail that I've tried to resend several times!
22:07:31spugthat's the initial problem, you know
22:07:32spug;)
22:07:34netmasta10btbut an error has occured!
22:07:56spugI'm trapped forever
22:07:58blue_lizardrofl
22:08:36blue_lizardsome conversations here can lead to psychotherapy
22:08:44spughehe
22:09:01spugbut not to an account on the Rockbox forums :(
22:09:09blue_lizardseems so
22:09:17spugmaybe I should mail an admin, maybe they can manually activate
22:10:08peturspug: I don't think any admin is online right now, most devs are just mods
22:10:24spughmm, ok
22:10:50netmasta10btman those visual verification codes on the forum are murder
22:10:54netmasta10bthows anyone read those
22:11:44hcsrely on the statistical certainty that if you enter random strings at some point you will get it right
22:11:58hcsI think the universe should be around long enough for that to work.
22:12:22netmasta10btheheh, i've reloaded the page a dozen times −− it appears the letters stay the same
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22:13:18netmasta10btYou are now registered with an account at Rockbox Community Forums, rockout!
22:13:22netmasta10bthey it works for me
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22:13:37spugnetmasta10bt: :(
22:13:46netmasta10btcheck your cookie filter
22:13:54spugall open
22:14:09spugcan you try to log out and resend the activation e-mail for the user "Spug"?
22:16:59netmasta10btdidja get it?
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22:17:30spugnot yet
22:17:33spug:/
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22:46:55lowlightpreglow: another report of broken gapless...http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6326
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23:00:53*petur looks at spug and points to Paul_the_Nerd
23:02:34spug:o
23:02:48spugPaul_the_Nerd is Llorean?
23:02:54peturhe is
23:03:05peturthe great allmighty ;)
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23:04:24spugdo i dare to query him?
23:04:57peturwhere do you get in life without trying? :p
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23:05:41Paul_the_Nerdspug: What's the question?
23:05:48Paul_the_NerdSorry, was only half-here for a few moments.
23:08:12rasherPaul_the_Nerd: log starting at 21:57
23:08:26rasherIn short, registration problems
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23:08:59*petur kicks spug awake
23:09:21spugouch
23:09:47Paul_the_Nerdpetur: We were in PM
23:09:51Paul_the_NerdHis problem's solved (sorta)
23:09:53peturah ok
23:10:12Paul_the_NerdSometimes the forums refuse to send emails to certain addresses.
23:10:15Paul_the_NerdI'm not sure if there's a pattern.
23:10:25Paul_the_NerdFortunately I can manually activate accounts or register people
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23:10:49spugcouldn't you disable mandatory activation?
23:10:57peturno way
23:11:12peturand get a boatload of spammers on board
23:11:28spugthe captcha'd still be there though
23:11:35spugbut i have no idea how many spammers you used to have ;)
23:11:44peturthey don't stop everything
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23:12:34spugtrue
23:12:50Paul_the_NerdWe used to have quite a few spammers, even with the email system.
23:12:54Paul_the_NerdI'm not wholly sure what happened to them.
23:13:18tim66hmm, I'm guessing tag 'cache' progress should go past 100%?? I got to over 200% this evening
23:13:34rasherIt does that sometimes
23:13:43preglowlowlight: another? isn't that the same?
23:13:58preglowi've heard of no further reports than that one, at least
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23:18:25lowlightpreglow: *shrug*...Is leftright on irc = dunno on fs?
23:18:44preglowseemed so
23:19:35lowlightseems like a false alarm too
23:21:12preglowindeed
23:21:25preglowi used what test tracks i have and could find no gaps/artifacts
23:24:35lowlightlater
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