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#rockbox log for 2006-11-21

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00:47:09antistatichi all
00:48:35antistaticabout to install rockbox on a 1st gen nano, do i need to downgrade the firmware as it's currently 1.3
00:48:47JdGordonno
00:50:07antistaticthanks
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01:20:31TerinjokesOK, who the member of the rockbox-users group on last.fm that listens to all this hard rock?
01:22:14JdGordonthere is a rockbox-users group?
01:22:33*JdGordon joins
01:22:54Terinjokesthere's two, which on did you join?
01:23:03JdGordonneither yet
01:23:31Terinjokeshttp://www.last.fm/group/Rockbox+Users
01:23:55JdGordonwhats the other one?
01:24:43Terinjokesnvm, the other one is a song, not a group (LOL) http://www.last.fm/music/Run-D.M.C./_/Rockbox
01:29:42oboTerinjokes: that'll be me (amongst others)
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01:30:55Terinjokesi think radiohead, but not much else that has played
01:31:24JdGordoni just joined.. hopefully it wont take long for some good music to get onto the group chart now :D
01:31:40TerinjokesJdGordon, I second that :)
01:32:04JdGordon<Terinjokes> OK, who the member of the rockbox-users group on last.fm that listens to all this hard rock? <- for some reason i doubt youll like my music
01:32:18JdGordonhttp://www.last.fm/user/JdGordy/
01:32:33TerinjokesJdGordon, is it indie rock from UK/Australia?
01:32:39JdGordonhell no
01:32:42obolol
01:33:38oboJdGordon: did you run a early version of the rb logging patch?
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01:34:15JdGordonno, im not useing it from rb now anyway...
01:34:31*JdGordon logging from amorak
01:34:43TerinjokesHrm, I don't a drop of blood, let alone 3 inches of it...
01:34:43Terinjokesand my interesting list....http://www.last.fm/user/terinjokes
01:34:43Terinjokesyou probably don't like any of that, but hey, I got weird tastes
01:35:02JdGordon3 inches of blood is awesome
01:35:16JdGordonmelodic death meatl
01:35:20JdGordonmetal
01:37:27*Terinjokes likes Anti-flag
01:38:26Terinjokesany suggestions for good WPS on the nano (because everyone loves Dark Geek ::wink:: ::wink::)
01:38:48Terinjokeshttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpodNano#Dark_Geek BTW
01:38:55JdGordonthe nano screen is too bloody small for a decent wps
01:39:30JdGordondark geek looks good
01:39:42Terinjokesthanks :)
01:39:55JdGordonblue dream looks better tho
01:39:58*Terinjokes ported Dark Geek from the Video
01:40:29Terinjokesyeah, but Dark Geek gets more information across (and the picture is out of date....need to update it...)
01:40:32JdGordonmy sister is using the jack white wps on her nano
01:41:03Terinjokeshttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpodNano#Clix_Nano looks pretty cool
01:41:39JdGordonthere arnt enough nice themes for the h300
01:41:45Terinjokeshttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpodNano#Jack does look pretty cool
01:41:59JdGordoni want http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/WpsIpod5g?rev=1;filename=Theme_X_Glow.png for the h300
01:42:04TerinjokesJdGordon, any suggestions for improving the Dark Geek skin?
01:42:19JdGordonnup
01:44:02Terinjokeshttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIriverH300#Crossbones_for_iPod_Photo_Color whould be a cool nano port
01:44:23JdGordonnano screen is too small for it
01:44:24Terinjokesand JdGordon, the screen is pretty big :)
01:44:40JdGordonthe nano screen is tiny...
01:44:49JdGordonits like 1/4 the size of the h300
01:44:54TerinjokesFU
01:44:59JdGordonhaha
01:45:12Terinjokesyou make me feel insecure :(
01:45:35JdGordonjust think how much more insecure youd feel if we started comparing other stuff :D
01:45:49Terinjokeslike what?
01:46:15JdGordonanything?
01:46:16SUSaiyanpencils
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01:47:38*JdGordon has to finish retagging all his music
01:47:40Terinjokesmechinical. Good 'le BIC #2 (0.7mm)
01:48:00*jhMikeS sees the sophisticated conversation
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01:48:48TerinjokesChannel: any tips on compiling?
01:49:25jhMikeSJdGordon: when I'm done with changin over those menus as best I can you want a diff just posted up or sent to you?
01:51:58jhMikeSJdGordon: it's back on the slow cursor trip again too btw. can't figure why atm.
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01:54:21crashdbeing at work at 1am is the lamest thing
01:56:23JdGordonjhMikeS: whatever...
01:56:42JdGordonif i get a chance today i tihnk im going to rewrite the menu code to work better
01:58:45jhMikeSthe problem seemsed to just disappear after I added one setting in and then reappear after adding the rest :-\
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02:12:10Terinjokesah! all the themes for the nano suck!
02:17:52Soapthen make new ones.
02:17:59Soap:P
02:18:07TerinjokesSoap: I did :)
02:18:13Terinjokesbut even mine sucks
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02:49:12z0dehi
02:49:42z0deanyone here go the font helvR10.fnt on hand its no longer in the fonts pack and its required by the skin im using
02:50:32rasherI'm pretty sure it's from my site
02:50:37rasherrasher.dk/rockbox/fonts/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/fonts/
02:50:57rasherEither under 100dpi or 75dpi
02:50:59z0dethanks ill have a look
02:51:06rasherIt's anyone's guess which one it is, try both
02:52:04z0deits in 75
02:52:06z0dethanks :)
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02:53:01rasherIt's in both
02:53:15rasherBut they're different, so if the 75 one isn't what the skin requires, it'll look off
02:53:53z0deyea i saw that im checking now
02:54:09z0dethe 75 looks right
02:55:19Caliban_:se noai
02:55:19Caliban_an:se ai
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02:56:33z0dethanks rasher
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03:07:48*scorche smacks Soap
03:07:59Soapgood
03:08:16scorcheyou dont just CTCP ping me and dont get my wrath
03:08:48scorcheand no i will not fix my horrible grammar for the above sentence
03:10:10*scorche smacks jhMikeS for being a sheep
03:10:26jhMikeS:D
03:18:03jhMikeSI think triggering should be out of SWCODEC for a bit (or at least for the menu update) since it doesn't function properly. It's currently enabled. Some needed functionality is missing. Any objections?
03:21:40SoapI object to my lack of understanding.
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03:44:46Captain_Apathyhey guys, quick question
03:45:06Captain_ApathyI downloaded a patch, now what do I do with it, just drag it in to the rockbox folder?
03:47:48Soapyou need to patch the source files and recompile
03:48:36Captain_Apathydoh, any how to links?
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03:54:01SoapCaptain_Apathy: there is a simple guide to compiling in the wiki, and a whole forum dedicated to it.
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04:02:11Captain_ApathyI'm on the main wiki page, what section is it?
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04:17:24JdGordonany electronic gurus herE?
04:19:34scorcheJdGordon: you should know better than to ask questions like that =P
04:19:41JdGordonbah
04:19:58JdGordonthis damn keyboard i just bought doesnt have caps/num lock LED's and i wanna hack them in
04:22:18*scorche contributes to the silence
04:24:26scorcheif the keyboard has pads for them, then fine...if it doesnt, then it isnt worth doing
04:24:52scorchewith any luck, it will because the manufacturer is too lazy and cheap to make different boards
04:24:54scorche;)
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04:52:33martian67my capslock is disabled and remapped to printscreen
04:52:40martian67its in a really annoying place
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04:56:42AlbinoTuxHey there, anyone here taking a look at the ZUne?
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05:01:18goffathere's people working on the gigabeat
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05:01:27goffabut not the zune yet
05:01:34goffaas far as i know anyway
05:01:45AlbinoTuxHmm
05:02:08goffai think it will be supported eventually
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05:04:08JdGordonnot any time soon tho most probably
05:04:28goffayeah.. i guess i don't mean to give that impression
05:04:43goffagigabeat will probably be a while in itself
05:06:38AlbinoTuxWell, how do I go about disassembling the Zune's firmware?
05:07:04AlbinoTuxOr rather, what is the process for getting Rockbox running?
05:09:34JdGordonis the firmware encrypted?
05:10:02JdGordoni tihnk the first thing that needs doin is identify the hardware, make sure there is actually a gcc which can compile for it..
05:10:19JdGordonthen you need to decrypt the firmware and figure out how to run your own code on it
05:10:23JdGordonthen its "simple" :p
05:12:57AlbinoTuxHow do you tell if the firmware is encrypted?
05:13:05JdGordonI dont know..
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05:13:14JdGordontry to dissasemble it?
05:13:24AlbinoTuxI need an ARM dissasbler
05:13:37JdGordonyou need to know arm assembly then to see if it is encrytped
05:13:49AlbinoTuxcouldn't find one that'll run on windows :(
05:13:59AlbinoTuxWell I guess I need to disassemble it first :)
05:14:07AlbinoTuxthen most assemly is similar
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05:14:34AlbinoTuxI mean, it'll either look like assembly or not right. Then I get a data sheet to determine the instruction set
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05:16:12goffawell.. i'm not a programmer.. but from what i gather.. certain chipsets use certain compilers
05:16:29goffaif it uses an existing chip (i'm thinking similar to the gigabeat).. that compiler could probably be used
05:16:42goffajust thinking that since i heard rumor that toshiba makes both
05:17:37JdGordonthe zune is a rebranded toshiba S series isnt it?
05:18:04JdGordonthe questio is weather they use a proprietry DSP which there is no free compiler for..
05:18:13JdGordonthe cpu being arm is no problem
05:18:21goffaah
05:19:17goffawell i think the s and f use a wolfson ..
05:19:21goffamaybe that's the dac
05:19:50JdGordonmight be the same chip as in the ipods.. which are bein used in rb
05:19:54goffathe people in #gigabeat know far more than i
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05:23:38*JdGordon so hungry
05:24:27daurnimatorJdGordon: what beer do you drink?
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05:39:18t0dk0nhmm, turning off translucency and sound on Doom gives you more playtime on the Battery
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06:00:27webguest70hello everyone
06:00:49webguest70my question is how to set a backdrop
06:01:53webguest70this is because the filebrowser referenced in 9.1.4 doesnt work for browsing .rockbox folder on my ipod
06:05:43SoulDeaDi think you currently cannot set manually backdrops
06:06:09SoulDeaDwps themes can set it
06:06:34webguest70for all menus
06:07:00webguest70hmmmm
06:07:31webguest70it says you can do it though..... but the way it tells you to is incorrect or im just incompitent
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06:11:20SoulDeaDyou cannot browse .rockbox folder
06:11:50SoulDeaDput them somewhere else
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06:12:28webguest70ok thanks
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06:12:37rasherSet file view to display all files
06:12:39rasherAnd you can.
06:13:06rasherAnd backdrops should be in the .rockbox folder I believe
06:13:20webguest70how do you do that
06:13:48webguest70yea .rockbox/backdrops
06:13:51SoulDeaDgeneral settings -> display
06:13:56rasherMenu > General Settings > File view
06:14:12rasherShow files > All
06:14:14SoulDeaDright
06:14:47webguest70THANKS SOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!
06:14:51webguest70sorry
06:14:54SoulDeaDnp
06:14:57webguest70im excited lol
06:15:14webguest70cus i hate that boring white
06:16:42SoulDeaDhow do you set backdrops
06:16:52SoulDeaDi cannot find anything in the menu
06:16:56webguest70huh?
06:17:01theoneanyone with an h[13]40 have an opinion about 1600mAh batteries vs. 2200mAh batteries? Ordered a 2200mAh but received a 1600mAh...trying to see if I wanna wait to get it resolved or just stick with the 1600
06:17:08webguest70http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch9.html#x12-1890009
06:17:39webguest70its there 9.1.4 i beleive
06:17:48theoneof course a 2200 will last longer but by how much
06:17:52webguest70k i m out ttyl
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08:58:14webguest72good morning
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09:14:49*dan_a loads Rockbox :D
09:14:57*wehn gazes in wonderment at 113 users, and the 3 hours that passed so quietly. Rockboxers are nice crew.
09:15:24Bagderdan_a: !!
09:15:39dan_aMrH is a genius
09:16:00Bagderwe need to come up with more words to describe him, this gets repetetive :-P
09:17:52merbananI guess the sansa port is progressing nicely ?
09:18:05dan_aI think so
09:18:07dan_a:D
09:18:42scorchehurrah!
09:20:11dan_aI think I might have a committing spree tonight, especially if I can get the bank switching in the flash driver fixed, so 6 and 8Gb models are supported
09:22:47Bagderyay
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09:51:24webguest40I'm trying to find a guide for flashing H140, so far all I see is 'How to flash Archos', nothing for H140, anyone know where the h140 guide is buried, tried a search as well and that pints to mailing list
09:52:01markunwebguest40: how hard did you search? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFlashing
09:52:09webguest40thanks
09:55:34webguest40how hard did i search, several times, but obviously me key words weren't as good, but is it really neccessary to be so precise with key words and should it be so well hidden
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09:57:22markunwebguest40: No, you are right
09:57:23LinusNwebguest40: i agree - it wasn't *that* easy to find
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09:59:17webguest40:-)
09:59:22rasherIriver flashing isn't officially supported though, is it (ie. using an experimental bootloader)?
09:59:44hasibuzihi everyone
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10:00:06JdGordonhe LinusN, did you ever get a chance to test the remote lcd enabled bootloader?
10:00:12hasibuzido you know a way to get rockbox working on an archos Jukebox Multimedia 120?
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10:00:51LinusNJdGordon: no, sorry - i've been swamped with work lately
10:01:09JdGordonis there any real danger it would brick it?
10:01:28LinusNhasibuzi: nobody has ported it to that platform, and i don't think it will happen soon - or ever
10:02:18LinusNJdGordon: the h100 is pretty well protected from bricking - the h300 is a little more sensitive
10:02:49LinusNrasher: no - it's not yet supported by the official bootloaders
10:03:11hasibuziokay, thanks anyway :/
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10:06:36SlasheriJdGordon: what kind of bootloader patch are you trying to test?
10:06:55JdGordonenable some logging to the remote lcd fr the hxxx
10:07:07Slasheriok, can you send a diff?
10:07:26JdGordonok
10:07:44JdGordonoh LinusN, is there any reason why the bootloader draws the the lcd twice for every update?
10:07:55LinusNit does?
10:08:28JdGordonyah
10:08:44LinusNaha, i see now - totally unnecessary
10:10:29LinusNi forgot to remove the lcd_update() calls when i added the printf() function
10:13:17JdGordonSlasheri: youve got the reflasher tool if the bootloader doesnt wrk?
10:14:02SlasheriJdGordon: nope, but so far it has always worked just enough :)
10:14:23JdGordonSlasheri: oh, dont try that.. i just relaised i put the remote_lcd_init in the wrong place
10:14:39JdGordonits in the x5 part.. not iriver
10:15:01Slasheriwell, unless original firmware is removed, there is the reset cookie check
10:15:05JdGordonno sorry, its there.. the patch put it in
10:15:14Slasheriso it doesn't matter if bootloader crashes
10:15:16JdGordonshuold be safe..
10:15:19Slasherionly crt0 must succeed
10:15:25JdGordonim too chicken to flash it
10:15:42JdGordonso if the bootloader crashes you can stll get ito OF ?
10:15:48Slasheriyes
10:15:52Slasherijust hitting the reset button
10:16:02JdGordoncool, so maybe i shhuoldnt be such a chicken :p
10:16:19Slasheriyou could still show the patch :)
10:16:27JdGordondidnt you get it?
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10:16:32JdGordoni sent it over irc
10:16:39Slasherioh, i didn't notice :)
10:16:43Slasherijust a moment
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10:20:57SlasheriJdGordon: i think that should be safe to try
10:21:03Slasheribut i am worried about one thing..
10:21:31JdGordon.... being.. ?
10:21:32Slasheriadding new features to the bootloader, such as remote lcd support, can make the bootloader too big for the 64k section
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10:21:53Slasherii wonder if it even compiles now
10:21:56JdGordon-rw-r−−r−− 1 jonno jonno 62552 2006-11-21 20:19 rockbox.iriver
10:21:59JdGordondoes compile
10:22:08Slasheriyep.. but it's very near of that limit
10:22:39JdGordonLinusN: what do you think? still safe?
10:24:17SlasheriJdGordon: i don't think the remote lcd support is any problem, but the real cause of crash might be other rockbox development
10:24:37Slasheriand the only thing to find out is to try
10:24:42JdGordon$ ../tools/scramble -iriver new.bin new.hex
10:24:43JdGordonModel H300 series
10:24:43JdGordonThis doesn't look like a valid decoded iHP firmware - reason: file 'length' data
10:26:09Slasheriso you first descrambled h300.hex h300.bin, then patched it with the bootloader/iriver/bootloader.bin?
10:26:15JdGordonyes
10:26:25JdGordonfollowing the instructio in IriverBoot
10:27:25JdGordon... side not, what in the patching causes the 64kb bootloader.bin to increase h300.hex to nearly 4mb from 2?
10:27:41Slasherieh, that is not right
10:27:45Slasherihow did you patch it?
10:28:04Slasheriand how is ls -la bootloader.bin?
10:28:08JdGordondescramble, then mkboot
10:28:17Slasheriplease give exact commands
10:28:46JdGordoni foloowed IriverBoot excalty
10:28:56Slasheristill, copy paste what you did
10:29:07Slasheriand how did you get the bootloader.bin file?
10:29:07JdGordonoh, bootloader.elf is 3mb, so it makes snese..
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10:29:18JdGordoncompiled it
10:29:18Slasherihow did you do it?
10:29:28Slasheriok, and then copied it from what directory?
10:29:39LinusNi have a patch to extend the h300 bootloader to 128k
10:30:11JdGordonleft it were it was... then ran tool/descramble on the origioal h300.hex, then mkboot,. then scramble again
10:30:14Slasheribut that doesn't help for h100 bootloader, unless original fw is dumped
10:30:26SlasheriJdGordon: ok, where it was?
10:30:47JdGordonwhere was which?
10:30:55JdGordonno, im h300
10:31:14Slasheriyes, but where was the compiled h300 bootloader?
10:31:18Slasheriand how did you compile it?
10:31:33JdGordonthe usual way... target 11, bootloader comile
10:31:43JdGordonits in h300-boot/bootloader/bootloader.bin
10:31:58Slasherii just compiled it myself and seems to be ok.. .bin file 62k
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10:42:16JdGordonLinusN: any idea why we are getting the "This doesn't look like a valid decoded iHP firmware - reason: file 'length' data" error?
10:42:48LinusNyes - the image is corrupt :-/
10:43:31LinusNor too big
10:43:51JdGordonafter adding a few calls? :'(
10:44:52amiconnLinusN: Btw, do you know whether bootloaders from current cvs will work ok?
10:45:02LinusNno i don't
10:45:05amiconn(thinking of e.g. dma lcd update for H300)
10:50:18JdGordon ok, Im getting that length error with cvs also
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11:30:36JdGordonok, off topic, but any electronic gurus in here?
11:31:04JdGordonim after a very simple circuit, but im a software person.. not hardware
11:33:03jhMikeSJdGordon: circuit for what?
11:33:29JdGordoni need a circuit which will toggle an led on and off using a momentary switch
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11:42:55jhMikeSflip-flop
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11:43:45woodensoulIs anyone up and about?
11:44:41woodensoulWell regardless, someone will see this eventually I guess. I could make a bug report as well, but I wanted to see what was said here first.
11:45:13SlasheriJdGordon: i would recommend a programmable microcontroller, for example atmel avr's. Those are really simple and very efficient to program with C
11:46:02woodensoulI've found a bug with the text editor feature that causes a total freeze that can only be recovered by a hard reset. All I can say is that it's happened several times while I'm attempting to edit a long line in .wps file.
11:47:15amiconnSlasheri: Hehe, I think an c is severe overkill for such a task
11:47:46woodensoulThe last time, the freeze occured when I just selected the line to edit. But there were times where the freeze didn't occur until I tried to save the changes I had made to the line.
11:48:36Slasheriamiconn: for me that would be easier to do, than to start finding a bunch of resistors, capasitors, calibrating timing etc.. compared that you could do everything by software with only few lines of code :)
11:48:55amiconnTiming? For a flip-flop
11:48:57amiconn?
11:49:27jhMikeSnot to mention the investment in programming hardware, even if you make it yourself
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11:49:43Slasheriok, maybe for a flip-flop that might be little overkill.. but it would be easier to add features, such as automatic swhitch off etc :)
11:49:48pondlifewoodensoul: Can you reproduce this with a particular text file?
11:49:56amiconnA very simple standard logic chip should do
11:50:00jhMikeSJust buy a flip flop ic and maybe you'll need an open collector power transistor at most
11:50:29amiconnYes, and a pullup resistor for the button, and perhaps a small capacitor for debouncing
11:50:38woodensoulpondlife: The file I was editing was the the iCatcher.wps file. I could tell you what lines in the file caused to the crash too, if that would help.
11:51:33pondlifewoodensoul: Please open a Flyspray bug report and note down a "recipe" that will repro the crash. Maybe attac your iCatcher.wps file too (in case the standard one gets changed in the future).
11:51:46pondlifes/attac/attach
11:52:48amiconnA 4027 should do (dual JK flip flop)
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11:56:07Roy_Rogerhello?
11:56:16jhMikeSno ;)
11:57:01woodensoulpondlife: Will do.
11:57:03Roy_Rogeri got a question, well two actually
11:58:32Roy_Rogerhow much space does rockbox take up in the ipod?
11:58:50woodensoulabout 2 inches I think
11:58:56Roy_Rogercause me ipod is saying its takeing like 13 gigs
11:58:59markunmaybe 5MB?
11:59:11Roy_Rogerwhich seems a lil high, could i just be getting false reading?
11:59:26ender`run a chkdsk on it
11:59:37Roy_Rogeractually, i think i know what it is
11:59:46Roy_Rogeris there a way i can play mp4's
11:59:58Roy_Rogeri forgot i added my intunes library, so its in there twice
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12:00:41jhMikeSJdGordon: I guess the old sound_menu.c can just be removed
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13:41:00lilkidwondering if someone could help me sorry if it's a bit unrelated to rockbox, how can i disable ipod disk mode without itunes? theres something you hold while you plug in the usb wire to the ipod but i can't remember, i read it in a rockbox manual but i can't find that page again
13:43:36lilkidanyone?
13:43:44markunsorry, don't have an ipod
13:44:03lilkidokie thanks anyway
13:44:05bluebrotherno idea. Maybe searching the ipl website / wiki / forum helps
13:44:35Galoispress menu??
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13:59:58jhMikeSJdGordon: I attached the revision to the wiki page
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14:18:01jhMikeSamiconn: I just tried loading a wrong sized backdrop and it said "Backdrop Failed" as expected but it left garbage from the failed bitmap in the backdrop buffer.
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14:23:49amiconnjhMikeS: That's not easily avoidable. The backdrop code should clear the backdrop in such a case
14:24:48amiconnIf the bmp itself isn't defective and not too big for the buffer, the bmp loader will load it fine, even if it isn't the right size for a backdrop
14:24:59jhMikeSamiconn: personally, I'd try to reload the previous image and if that fails then clear it.
14:25:36amiconnYou can't reload the previous image, unless it was stored in /.rockbox/backdrops
14:26:21jhMikeSwell, if it was then you can attempt it otherwise not.
14:26:42amiconnYou don't know whether it was
14:27:10amiconnglobal_settings.backdrop_image (?) stores the last permanent backdrop image
14:27:29amiconnPossible temporary backdrop filenames are stored nowhere
14:27:30jhMikeSah, I get it
14:28:27jhMikeSJust fail if the dimensions don't match and not even try loading?
14:28:42amiconnYou only know the dimensions _after_ loading
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14:29:43amiconnA related question is how to handle backdrops on X5.
14:29:48jhMikeSCan do something to check the header and abort it.
14:30:01jhMikeSWhat's wrong with them on x5?
14:30:14amiconnHave only one "Set as backdrop" option and let the loader decide whether it's for main or remote?
14:30:32amiconnWhat if we have a target with 2 lcd with identical resolution?
14:30:36jhMikeSGuess you'll have to check the size and depth :P
14:30:43amiconn???
14:30:48jhMikeSGuess not the depth
14:30:50amiconnThe depth is irrelevant
14:31:17amiconnOr have 2 optios "Set as backdrop" and "Set as remote backdrop"?
14:32:46jhMikeShmmm
14:34:07jhMikeSIf you don't want to check anything automatically then I guess that's the only way
14:34:53jhMikeSprobably the way with the fewest suprises too
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14:38:28webmindhmm, hello, anyone know if it's possible with rockbox on the ipod to listen and charge at the same time ?
14:38:31bluebrotherbtw, is there a reason there is no "browse backdrops" menu entry?
14:39:29webmindnm
14:40:46amiconnbluebrother: It would be slightly confusing, because "set as backdrop" is not the default action for BMP files
14:41:23bluebrotherhmm. What is the default action on bmp files? Haven't seen any other.
14:44:38jhMikeSIt should just view it like a jpeg does. If in Browse Backdrops, special handle it and set it as a backdrop.
14:44:45amiconnThere isn't one yet. There should be a bmp viewer
14:46:13jhMikeSshould be viewers for maybe gif and png
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14:47:33amiconnThe problem with bmp, gif, png, ... is that downscaling is way more difficult than for jpeg
14:48:09amiconn...so it's quite challenging to make a viewer that works well with restricted memory
14:48:30jhMikeShow's that the case?
14:48:35preglowyou need to interpolate
14:48:39preglowand scale
14:48:58jhMikeSyeah. why's that easier for jpeg?
14:50:21preglowyou just skip using the high freq coefficients and scale in the same operation as resynthesising
14:50:55preglowit even yields a better quality picture, since frequency components that would alias are not used in the first place
14:53:35jhMikeSSo you low pass filter it
14:53:40preglowin essence
14:53:42preglowperfect lowpass
14:54:40preglowbut the trick is only using the frequency coefficients which are applicable, and then using them to synthesise a lower resolution picture tile
14:54:43*jhMikeS still awaits the chorus/flanger
14:55:16preglowdo you, now
14:55:21jhMikeS;)
14:55:23preglowi might put in a further stab either today or tomorrow
14:55:35jhMikeScool
14:55:38preglowdepends what i'm doing this afternoon
14:56:05preglowmajor coding lies in just getting playback/recording going, the effect itself should be fairly straight forward
14:56:47jhMikeShad a feeling that would be a stick point to coordinate that. sounds like reusable lib material ones it's worked out.
14:56:55preglowindeed
14:57:33preglownot really sure how to do it yet either
14:57:40pregloweasiest would probably be some kind of double buffering scheme
14:58:15preglowwould be easier if i could count on playback and recording being synchronised :>
14:58:40preglowi guess it might even be possible to hook that up
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15:00:09jhMikeSthey should stay in sync once started if they never break. guess you have to allow for a little relative slop
15:03:04jhMikeSI might try the four circular buffer pointers myself and see
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15:05:03preglowwhich ?
15:09:01jhMikeSHave a queue that get written at one end with data in and the other end gets read out to playback put your changes in between them.
15:10:30jhMikeSleaves room for variations in startup too
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15:32:00preglowerhm, queue? that sounds very non-array-ish
15:32:05preglowunless you want to do a lot of copying
15:34:53jhMikeSnon-arrayish? why? could be done as an array with fixed sized block
15:36:21preglowhmm, yeah
15:36:24preglowi misunderstood
15:38:12preglowwell, yeah, that might work well
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15:38:16preglowno idea how to pull that off, though
15:38:19preglowneed to read up some more on the api
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16:10:50jhMikeShmmm...look like I'll have a little debugging to do
16:13:05preglowoh?
16:21:25jhMikeSlockup trying to record data which is weird. maybe just a dumb mistake or something
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16:25:16jhMikeSalignment :P
16:25:35jhMikeSShould use DMA_AA flag for recording
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16:40:55preglowjhMikeS: trying out playback/recording? :>
16:42:15PaulPositionWhat exactly are Hunks? I'm trying to apply a patch and 7 of them fails, seemingly when they try to change bmp.c file.. But looking at the .patch, I see only 4 lines which are supposed to get added and none removed.. Going to try adding 'em by hand but still I'd like to know..
16:42:35jhMikeSpreglow: yes
16:43:05jhMikeSjust trying to record something and play it right back out with a delay
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16:51:07jhMikeSyea it's working \o/
16:51:24jhMikeSmore of an echo with the mic feedback
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17:00:48preglowwoot!
17:01:13preglowpost the code somewhere when done? i'm gonne have a look after catching a flick later
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17:02:20jhMikeSwas just gonna pastebin it for you
17:02:53jhMikeSis that ok or should I put it on flyspray?
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17:07:10jhMikeSa little quirk with starting playback...doesn't start the first time after boot
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17:07:34jhMikeShave to stop it and run it again then it works
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17:13:15preglowheh
17:13:33preglowjhMikeS: pastebin sounds nice
17:13:54jhMikeSok gimma a sec
17:16:57preglowooh, mpegplayer patch
17:17:37jhMikeShttp://pastebin.ca/254185
17:18:00preglowany idea what causes the quirk?
17:18:36jhMikeSnot yet...still thinking
17:21:16preglowwoah, this does allocate quite a few chunks
17:21:50jhMikeSjust used the numbers from recording. adjust it to needs
17:21:54preglowah, yes, but that's just part of the delay functionality
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17:23:23jhMikeSwatch your ears if you try it. it sets all the volumes to zero :P
17:23:38jhMikeSor 0 and +20
17:24:21preglowheh, always do when it comes to sound programming, so don't worry
17:24:25preglowhad too many white noise sessions
17:24:54preglowthis mic needs a bad ass amount of amp anyway
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17:27:10preglowwhat player did you try this on?
17:28:51preglowdoesn't work very well here
17:28:53preglowh120
17:29:47jhMikeSx5
17:29:53preglowjust locks up my player
17:29:57jhMikeShmm
17:30:00preglownothing on screen, lcd stays
17:30:03preglowbacklight, i mean
17:30:31jhMikeSdifferent codec chip so maybe needs some adjustments
17:30:49jhMikeSI'll try it on the 120
17:30:52preglowapparently, heh
17:32:58jhMikeSdid you do a CVS update? there's a change I committed that you must have
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17:33:43fnord__hi
17:34:01fnord__i've got a g5 ipod and tried yesterdays build
17:34:05fnord__but it does not boot
17:34:15n1swhen did you get it?
17:34:20fnord__last thing i see on the screen is "loading rockbox..."
17:34:35n1sdid you install rockbox?
17:34:49fnord__i did as described in the manual
17:34:56fnord__partitions are there
17:34:57linuxstbfnord__: Has it worked in the past?
17:35:00fnord__no
17:35:04fnord__it was my first try
17:35:34n1sbut did you unzip rockbox (.rockbox folder and rockbox.ipod file)
17:35:34linuxstbIs it a 30GB or 60GB 5g?
17:35:39fnord__30
17:36:04fnord__partition table seems to be ok
17:36:22preglowjhMikeS: you know, i didn't. ....
17:36:22fnord__i have a vfat on the second partition
17:36:27linuxstbDid you convert your ipod from HFS to FAT32?
17:36:41fnord__its fat32
17:36:52preglowsorry about that, going at it again now
17:36:56fnord__i trashed my original firmware
17:36:57linuxstbfnord__: Yes, but did you convert it?
17:37:16fnord__i dont think so
17:37:24linuxstbWas it working with the Apple firmware before you tried to install Rockbox?
17:37:29preglowi wonder if this is the bug i had when i last gave it a try
17:37:51fnord__yes, it worked. but the applefirmware seems to be gone
17:37:57fnord__there is no bootmenu
17:38:05jhMikeSI added DMA auto alignment to recording transfers
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17:38:18preglowjhMikeS: even works the first time around here, no need to start again
17:38:27preglowworks like a charm
17:38:28bluebrotherfnord__, which bootloader are you using? The Rockbox one doesn't have a menu
17:38:40fnord__so it's the rockbox one
17:38:45fnord__i tried ipodlinux before
17:38:50fnord__which had one
17:39:04bluebrotherso it's the Rockbox one because you installed that or because you don't get a menu?
17:39:10jhMikeSexcellent
17:39:21fnord__i guess
17:39:35fnord__yes, it says "rockbox bootloader"
17:40:26preglowjhMikeS: does seem like an abundance of chunks, heh, takes ages to traverse through them
17:41:27jhMikeSpreglow: true, but I just needed something working not tuned :)
17:41:40linuxstbfnord__: Does your ipod freeze with the message "loading Rockbox..." or does something else happen?
17:41:50fnord__it freezes after that
17:42:07preglowjhMikeS: but sure as hell, i'll see what i can do with this thing
17:42:17preglowwhen i come back
17:43:13preglowhaha, so it's the internal mic being used
17:43:17preglowthe quality isn't as sucky as it seemed
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17:43:32jhMikeSpreglow: shouldn't be any worse than normal
17:43:39preglowi just thought it sounded really bnad
17:43:43preglowturns out it doesn't
17:45:04fnord__linuxstb: maybe that merging step went wrong
17:45:24fnord__is it important to have a proper apple-firmware to run rockbox?
17:46:19preglowhah
17:46:26preglowthe usb logo looks really messed up here
17:47:00jhMikeShaven't seen it on 2 bit yet
17:47:18preglowit's just a jumble
17:47:23jhMikeSfor me too
17:47:23preglowperhaps something messed up during update here
17:47:33preglowmok
17:48:22jhMikeSI only updated one line of one file so don't look at me
17:49:21preglowsure, no
17:49:27preglowit probably didn't work when they got replaced
17:49:31preglowpixelma: any ideas?
17:49:42jhMikeSit loads backdrops allright
17:50:42jhMikeSthere's a contrast setting and lcd driver adjustment that gives a more even grayscale
17:51:22jhMikeS...for h120 but never committed it. Don't know if others would find it more pleasing like I do.
17:51:59preglowi'd be glad to try it out
17:52:39jhMikeSthe grays are all very, very light on H120
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17:54:51pixelmapreglow: did you do a make clean before - I experience these garbled bitmaps when there was one which is then replaced by another in a different size
17:55:13PaulPositionOne question guys.. : cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@www.rockbox.org:/cvsroot/rockbox co -D '2006-11-20 23:30' rockbox −− Is that relative to MY timezone or something or is there some 'official cvs time' or something?
17:55:31pabsrelative to the server
17:55:35linuxstbPaulPosition: I would guess it's the time on the CVS server
17:56:24jhMikeSpreglow: change line 131 of lcd-h100.c to lcd_write_command_ex(LCD_CNTL_GRAY_SCALE_PATTERN, 0x43, -1) and set contrast to 27. Try a gradient image, is almost perfectly linear.
17:56:41PaulPositionHmm, thanks... Now to find why that patch wouldn't apply.. Oh well. :P Another occasion to start learning some more.
17:56:55preglowpixelma: will try
17:57:07linuxstbMmm... From the cvs man page: "The date is interpreted as being in the local timezone, unless a specific timezone is specified."
17:57:31PaulPositionowww, do I get man pages through vmware (silly me should have tried. duh.)
17:57:32PaulPositionthanks.
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18:01:04n1spixelma: New usb logo works fine here on H300 (with make clean) looks nice :-)
18:02:22preglowpixelma: yeah, that was it, looks, smooth as hell now :)
18:03:05jhMikeSyes, they look beautiful
18:03:23pixelmamany thanks :)
18:03:33jhMikeShave to try the H120 with a make clean
18:05:04jhMikeSok, that's better. it's not showing as transparent though or is that yet to be implemented?
18:05:47preglowjhMikeS: think i agree with you
18:05:48pixelmaon greyscale? there is no transparency yet
18:05:53jhMikeSah
18:06:09jhMikeSpreglow: about the gray level adjustment?
18:06:19preglowyea
18:06:52jhMikeSI have a corner to corner gradient and it's perfectly balanced with that. Should I commit the one liner?
18:07:24preglowwell, i can't imagine why a linear grayscale palette would not be needed
18:07:28preglowso it's definitely fine by me
18:07:48jhMikeSI guess I'd set the default contrast to 27. Is that what you set? 28 is too dark then.
18:08:05preglowset it to 27, yes
18:08:06preglowfrom 29
18:08:16preglowwhich is default, i guess
18:10:24fnord__ok
18:10:29fnord__i am a step further
18:10:31fnord__i guess
18:10:43fnord__i installed ipodlinux-bootloader
18:10:49fnord__and loaded rockbox
18:11:09fnord__i get the logo, and a menu, which lets me select rockbox
18:11:21fnord__then, there's some text about rolo
18:11:29fnord__and then there is the menu again
18:11:38thegeekanyone know if there has been any progress with the 5.5G 80gb ipod and those disk controller/block problems?
18:11:50n1sfnord__ that's the file browser
18:12:12fnord__:-)
18:12:16fnord__i figured out
18:12:18preglowi'm oute, back later tonight
18:12:27fnord__after pressing menu, i got some stuff to select
18:12:35fnord__... now, where's doom ;-)
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18:22:22amiconnjhMikeS: Default contrast 27 is too bright on my h140
18:22:29amiconnI use 28 all the time
18:23:38amiconnIf you change the default contrast, you need to recalibrate the grayscale library's gamma table as well
18:24:13HazerI recently acquired a iPod Photo, installed Rockbox and everything is running fine.... just one small question. I've tried looking for a "playlist creator" with no success so far. Is there an automated utility that can be used? I'd rather not tag 10gb of MP3's by hand if I can avoid it. ;)
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18:27:38jhMikeSamiconn: that's what I did. they're each one darker
18:28:58oboHazer: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsefulTools#MP3_Tagging_Organization
18:30:55Hazerobo: I found that list and grabbed Tag&Rename (most of my MP3 collection was self-ripped back in the late 90's without ID3 tagging) but I don't see that any of those would actually create a .m3u file that I can drop on the Pod that will have all the music in the playlist....
18:31:21amiconnjhMikeS: What 'each one'?
18:31:28pixelmaslasheri's new server (?) is causing red builds...
18:31:42amiconnThe grayscale lib gamma table is a mapping table for all 256 possible source levels
18:31:56jhMikeSeach gray scale pattern
18:32:12amiconn_grayscale library_
18:32:21jhMikeSdidn't mess with the lib
18:32:31Slasheriah, the path must be incorrect..
18:32:32Slasherichecking
18:32:38amiconnYou need to if you change the default contrast
18:32:57amiconnBesides, a contrast of 27 doesn't yield clear black for me
18:33:52Slasherieh, m68k-elf-gcc is really missing.. rockboxdev.sh must have failed then, because there are all the other files..
18:33:55Slasherii will check soon
18:34:00oboHazer: if you just want a giant list containing everything, you can enable the option to "Recursively insert directories" and insert the folder containing your music, directly on your ipod
18:34:04jhMikeSgive it a test and see what it looks like maybe should be a little different on 140?
18:34:13amiconnIt's the same LCD
18:34:41amiconnThe individual panels are all a little different, that's normal
18:35:27HazerHrm... I'll have to check that when I finish charging it. After everything has been edited I can hand edit the file to create additional 'sub-lists' from there.... but getting the master list of a couple of thousand songs was going to be a pain.
18:36:12jhMikeSlooked excellent here and for preglow
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19:25:34fnord__hmm
19:25:47fnord__i copied doom1.wad to /games/doom/
19:25:53fnord__but the plugin does not find it
19:25:57fnord__whats wrong?
19:27:29fnord__rockdoom.wad, i guess
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19:40:32Gnelikdan_a: Hi!
19:40:46n1swow... iriver released a new firmware for the h300 with minesweeper and some sort of limited otf playlist (!) (and this player has been out of production for about a year...)
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19:41:28dan_aGnelik: Hello
19:42:06Gnelikdan_a: You rock!
19:42:22Gnelik;)
19:42:46dan_aMrH rocks. I just test the things he suggests!
19:42:58netmasta10btwhats news from mrh?
19:43:37dan_anetmasta10bt: He found out why we couldn't boot a normal build of Rockbox on the Sansa (amongst other things)
19:43:55netmasta10btah very good
19:43:58Gnelikdan_a: What is our first point for now
19:44:05Gnelik???
19:44:21GnelikUsb, power?
19:45:25netmasta10btthat was the e200_5 patch?
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19:45:53dan_aGnelik: USB would be very useful - it would mean we didn't have to go to the original firmware to copy files over. Working out how to dual-boot would be good. Sound would make Rockbox do what it is meant to ;) Dual-booting would make going back to the OF easy.
19:46:07dan_aThere's lots of work to be done cleaning up the code for the drivers
19:46:31dan_anetmasta10bt: It's e200_6, which I've not added to the tracker yet
19:46:53dan_a(I'm tempted to commit it without putting it in Flyspray)
19:47:11dan_aOh, and I've got to get 6/8Gb disk access working
19:47:15netmasta10btoh so its in good shape already, can't wait to take a look at it
19:49:22dan_aIt's not brilliant - the scroll wheel doesn't work yet, so you can't go up and down in menus, and it tells you that the battery is empty after a minute's use
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19:52:33dan_anetmasta10bt: What Sansa do you have?
19:52:45netmasta10bt4gig
19:53:31dan_aOK, then e200_6 should work for you. It's going on the tracker as we speak...
19:53:56netmasta10btcool, i'll give it a whirl
19:55:47fnord__hmm, the ipodrockbox themes look weired
19:56:01dan_aFor some reason the full build isn't compiling for me - but "make bin" works.
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19:58:15netmasta10btapplied cleanly −− building now
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19:58:29dan_aOh, and I must remember to add ATA callbacks to the NAND driver
19:58:34netmasta10btwell a slight offset in configure
19:59:15dan_aI think I'm probably working against about a 2 day old CVS
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20:00:46Chain`Hello can someone help me ? my english isnt that good.
20:02:32dan_aChain`: Tell us your problem, and someone who knows how to help will
20:02:44netmasta10btdan_a: make bin works, but im having a hangup on the ogg codec −− prolly something on my system
20:03:16dan_anetmasta10bt: No, I have that too. Something to do with IRAM which I haven't figured out yet.
20:03:32Chain`i installed rockbox on my ipod Foto (20GB Edition) all the nice extras works fine even doom, but it lags on playing mp3s...
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20:05:49dan_aChain`: That is a known problem on the iPods. Change your theme to one which doesn't have the volume level meters
20:08:26Slasherihmm, it seems i can't compile m68k-elf support for the new xen.ihme.org build server
20:08:29Slasheri../../gcc-3.4.6/gcc/libgcc2.c:1277: internal compiler error: in do_SUBST, at combine.c:447
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20:08:37Slashericompiler fails with an internal error..
20:09:23Chain`thanks but where do i do that ?
20:10:11amiconnSlasheri: Ooooolld problem :)
20:10:21Slasheriamiconn: hmm, do you know a fix? =)
20:10:27Slasherishould i try with older compiler?
20:10:30Slasherigcc 4.1 fails
20:10:57dan_aChain`: Go to the main menu (by pressing "menu",) then select "browse themes"
20:10:57amiconnhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler
20:11:04amiconnScroll all the way down
20:11:15amiconnm68k-elf-gcc should be 3.4.6 and nothing else
20:11:25amiconn4.x makes worse code
20:11:31Chain`Thanx :P found allready, i just didnt imagined that it could be that easy .
20:11:43Slasheriamiconn: yes, but that is compiling the m68k-elf compiler
20:11:54Slasheriand i though rockboxdev.sh should do it correctly
20:12:06amiconnIt obviously doesn't
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20:12:19amiconnI wouldn't know, I've built all my crosscompilers manually
20:13:05amiconnBtw, that failure isn't in the host gcc. It's in the intermediate cross-compiler (xgcc) that is used to build the full one
20:14:15LearSlasheri: On 64-bit Linux?
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20:14:47LearI'm pretty sure I've seen that error, don't quite remember when though...
20:15:00SlasheriLear: yep, athlon 64 dual core
20:15:03amiconnSlasheri: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler , last appended file
20:15:20Slasheriamiconn: ah, nice =)
20:15:21amiconnI am running an amd64 build server myself...
20:15:28Slasherithen i will try it
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20:16:51Quelsarukhi all
20:20:01amiconnhola
20:21:11Slasheri|This patch will fix the m68k-elf builds on AMD64 machines. But don't use it,
20:21:11Slasheri|because it is unclear if the assertion or the code calling do_SUBST is at
20:21:11Slasheri|fault. You have been warned.
20:21:20Slasherihehe, well i don't have an option :)
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20:22:29Slasheriamiconn: do you think it should work correctly?
20:22:45n1sSlasheri: I use it and it works fine
20:23:13Slasheriok, great
20:23:14n1sOn 64 bit ubuntu edy eft (Pentium D dual core)
20:23:22amiconn[20:15:20] <amiconn> I am running an amd64 build server myself...
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20:23:53amiconnI compared several coldfire builds built-on-amd64 vs. built-on-x86
20:23:59amiconnThey were binary identical
20:24:11netmasta10bthmm I disabled the tremor build and got everything to compile
20:25:02dan_anetmasta10bt: It sounds like you're about to say "but..."
20:25:18netmasta10bti prefixed a but :)
20:25:24netmasta10btno tremor
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20:26:10dan_aI wouldn't worry too much about Tremor not working yet.
20:26:30dan_aAfter all, *sound* doesn't work at the moment!
20:26:46netmasta10btyeah −− no doubts −− just a weird error though
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20:28:09dan_aI know. Hopefully I'll work it out soon. After all, how hard can it be?
20:28:19n1s:-D
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20:29:49corynthehi , proud members of the rockbox academy !
20:30:27netmasta10bt:) −− bootloader doesn't compile now :-/
20:31:14dan_aOops. I'll fix that when I've finished my tea
20:31:22dan_aHi, corynthe!
20:35:09corynthecongrat to mrH, dan_a for sansa :)
20:35:37dan_aThank you
20:36:32corynthedumb question: if a rom as nemesis for zx80 works on the simulatior, it should work on the real beast ?
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20:37:36corynthei went crazy when discovering http://www.worldofspectrum.org/games/ for oooooooold games i loved :)
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20:38:38Slasheriamiconn: hmm, patch didn't help.. compiler still failing with that internal error
20:39:02amiconnClean rebuild? It worked here...
20:39:10Slasherioh, i patched it wrong
20:39:28Slasheri(needed to manually apply the patch and forget to comment the abort())
20:39:54Slasheriok, now it seems to compile better :)
20:39:57amiconnWhy manually?
20:40:43Slasheripatch didn't apply cleanly, there were some minimal syntax changes
20:40:58amiconnUh? The patch is for 3.4.6 sources...
20:40:59Slasheribut now it compiled.. :)
20:41:10Slasheriyep, i have 3.4.6 too
20:41:13Slasheriinteresting
20:41:17amiconnodd...
20:42:02amiconnBtw, it should be easy to fix the (one-time) warning your box threw (regarding sh2d)
20:42:09amiconnI am looking into that
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20:43:12Slasheriamiconn: i am not sure why it throw the .rej file, probably identation issue
20:43:35amiconnsh2d.c:444: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size
20:43:35amiconnsh2d.c:444: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
20:43:47amiconnCasting a pointer to int won't work properly on amd64...
20:43:57Slasherihmm
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20:44:30amiconnHmm, does inttypes.h exist in a standard (host-) gcc install?
20:44:44Slasherichecking
20:45:07Slasheri/usr/include/inttypes.h
20:45:12Slasheriyep, it should exist
20:45:16amiconngoodie
20:45:36amiconnThen I'll use the correct integer type for pointers
20:47:25mirakhello !
20:47:55amiconnHmm, it's stdint.h
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20:58:43dan_anetmasta10bt: I've fixed both of those problems
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21:00:35netmasta10bthey cool −− i was trying to figure out the define thing in kernel.c
21:01:28dan_aThat line should read: #if !defined(CPU_PP) || !defined(BOOTLOADER)
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21:08:51*z0de is so sexy
21:09:22*z0de 's elitness brings all the nerds to the yard
21:13:44netmasta10btyou got tremor working too ?
21:15:45dan_anetmasta10bt: Edit firmware/export/config-e200.h and add the line "#define ICODE_ATTR_TREMOR_NOT_MDCT
21:15:48dan_a"
21:19:08netmasta10btahh −− thx 4 u'r help
21:19:29dan_aNo problem :D
21:23:21corynthewhat choice to build the sansa ? Build (N)ormal, (D)evel, (S)imulator, (B)ootloader, (M)anual, (V)oice? (N)
21:23:41coryntheN D ?
21:24:55dan_acorynthe: Remembering that it's in development at the moment, and lots of things don't work - either B or (with the patch in Flyspray) N
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21:25:43corynthethanks, i know bould like too see the logo by myself :)
21:25:56netmasta10btmi4code isnt in cvs is it ?
21:26:03netmasta10btrequired for the build i think
21:26:26coryntheknow bould = know but would like
21:27:05coryntheah, ver my knowledge
21:27:11coryntheover
21:28:17dan_anetmasta10bt: I hadn't realised that it wasn't. It's at http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html
21:28:52netmasta10btyeah i have it −− just letting crynthe know
21:30:44coryntheis it needed to install the firmare ?
21:31:30netmasta10btyou need it to sign the firmware
21:31:31corynthebtw i have warnings with configure
21:31:42corynthenetmasta10bt: ok
21:35:57corynthe:( cant find a arm-elf-gcc
21:36:05corynthefor ubuntu
21:36:22netmasta10bttheres a script in the tools dir called rockbox-dev
21:36:24hcsthe build script works well
21:36:42netmasta10bter rockboxdev −− it will download and compile the compiler for u
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22:12:57Davide-NYCjhMikeS: what's that patch v27.1 on the wiki?
22:13:07Davide-NYCthe menu recoding one
22:16:15Davide-NYCmy man where you at?
22:16:17Davide-NYC:-)
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22:24:12preglowamiconn: a proper bugfix has been checked in the gcc 4.2 (for 64 bit m68k)
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22:34:41pregloww00t, realtime effects!
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22:39:42Goldeyeheya. anyone familliar with rockbox on the h10?
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22:55:58netmasta10btso I got rockbox built for the sansa... I'm guessing I need to copy the .rockbox dir over b4 I flash and then it will work?
22:56:27netmasta10btgranted w/o sound and everything
22:56:37dan_aTry it and see!
22:56:47netmasta10btok I'll have to wait till i get home :)
22:56:54netmasta10btno cable here
22:57:13dan_aYou'll get to the menus, but up/down doesn't work.
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22:58:29netmasta10btwell thats cool enough −− i haven't got to play w/ rockbox at all yet
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23:00:28fnord__is rockboy already in the distro, or do i have to get it from another source
23:00:29fnord__?
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23:04:19linuxstb_fnord__: It's included - just select a .gb or .gbc file in the file browser to start it.
23:04:54sansadictmecdrole: hahahaha
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23:08:29Terinjokesah, that explains all the weird jpop and nature songs that i've last.fm has been recommonding me
23:09:21TerinjokesAt the top of my dashboard it says they are having problems today...kinda sucls
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23:12:04t0dk0nIf I do 'initialize now' accidentally a second time, all it does is rewrite the tagcache, right?
23:12:09t0dk0nor will it mess anything up? :P
23:13:02Terinjokesit rewrites the tagcache (sorta like update)
23:13:17t0dk0nah okay
23:13:24|Rincewind|but you lose your playcount data
23:13:29t0dk0naww, damn
23:13:31t0dk0nthanks ^_^
23:14:28preglowlinuxstb_: tried out the mpegplayer patch?
23:15:09amiconnpreglow: I know that there was a fix checked in to gcc cvs at some point, but we don't want gcc 4.x for coldfire yet, do we?
23:15:11Terinjokesi tried mpegplayer, froze up my 'pod
23:15:19preglowamiconn: just thought about backporting the fix
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23:17:19dan_aThe cube plugin is all flickery on the Sansa - it looks like I need to do more work on the LCD driver. But for now I'm going to bask in the happy glow of having run a plugin.
23:17:33sansadict:)
23:18:24amiconndan_a: I'm a bit late, but congrats for your Sansa progress! :)
23:18:39dan_aamiconn: Thank you!
23:18:44amiconnDid you get the bank switching right meanwhile?
23:18:44linuxstb_preglow: I've read it, but haven't tried it. The patch doesn't seem to do very much at the moment, but it's good that someone else is working on it.
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23:19:20dan_aI don't know. It works switching from bank 0 to bank 0, but I can't test any more than that.
23:20:44dan_aShould I commit drivers which still need lots of work (e.g. error handling)? Or hold off until that work has been done?
23:21:29amiconnI guess it's up to you
23:21:47preglowlinuxstb_: well, it doesn't require you to create raw streams anymore
23:21:49amiconncvs is mean for collaborative work
23:22:12amiconn...but then many parts of rockbox tend to be the area of only a few, if not one, developer
23:22:16preglowdan_a: commit often
23:22:25preglowi'd say just put it in
23:22:29amiconn*is meant, of course
23:22:59amiconnThe first version of the Ondio mmc driver was also far from perfect
23:23:08sansadictbuildzip.pl gives me errors with a file missing "autoconf.h" on the script execution. Can it be an error due to the cvs ?
23:23:14amiconnIirc it couldn't even write at all
23:23:29dan_aI think I'll go for it :)
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23:24:28amiconnhttp://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/firmware/drivers/ata_mmc.c Check the commit messages for version 1.7 ff
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23:29:04zivan56dan_a, congrats on getting rockbox to boot on the sansa :)
23:29:13dan_aThank you!
23:33:15zivan56I tried getting it to boot on my 2gb sansa, but it stops in disk.c at "No partition found, trying to mount sector 0." I probably need to debug fat.c to see why (returns mounted = 0)
23:33:36zivan56cygwin is acting up so I can't do a debug build, heh
23:33:45dan_azivan56: Which version of the patch are you using?
23:34:03zivan56the latest _6
23:35:47dan_aI can send you some pre-built .mi4s, if you want to test?
23:35:51zivan56sure
23:36:51sansadicti feel lost. Could someone give me the few lines needed to build a fresh B from cvs downloader dir ?
23:37:10sansadictdownloaded dir
23:38:32sansadict"I can send you some pre-built .mi4s" could you for me too ?
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23:41:20dan_asansadict: What model Sansa do you have?
23:42:03sansadictdan_a : 6gb
23:42:06dan_azivan56: I've sent you a whole rockbox.zip - it has an mi4 file in it.
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23:44:38sansadictim toooo dumb, dont manage to build
23:44:40dan_asansadict: Can you let me know your email address? PM me on the forum if you don't want to put it on here
23:44:46zivan56dan_a: didn't get it. How big was it approx?
23:45:14dan_azivan56: 3Mb
23:45:21sansadictbistouri at geeeemêêêêêl
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23:46:18sansadictbut, to reverse to older firmware (official one) ?
23:46:21zivan56ah, god it
23:46:27zivan56*got
23:47:04midgey34pixelma: have you had a chance to look at the newest version of blackjack on the ondio?
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23:48:12zivan56dan_a: Still the same result unfortunately. I don't see any error messages, just the logo and nothing else.
23:48:31zivan56dan_a: the only reason I saw that message was due to me putting lcd_puts everywhere...
23:49:57Goldeyeanyone awake familliar with rockbox on the h10?
23:50:03dan_asansadict: You will need a copy of the original firmware, which is an .mi4 file.
23:51:26dan_azivan56: The problem is very likely to be in ata-e200.c - you could try seeing if ata_read_sectors is running correctly
23:52:40zivan56dan_a: any way to stop rockbox execution eaasily? panic()?
23:53:05sansadictdan_a : god, ive seen on a recent link here the european .mi4 so no trouble.
23:53:16dan_azivan56: I just use "while(1) {}"
23:53:21zivan56dan_a: I put a lcd_puts under that function, but never actually see it
23:53:30zivan56dan_a: good idea :)
23:53:34dan_asansadict: OK - there's an email on its way to you
23:54:08sansadictWhere do i have to put the file to change the firmware (im on linux with sansa mounted)
23:54:24sansadictdan_a : thanks a lot
23:54:26pixelmamidgey34: yes I did even on target :) I like it much better now, but the evaluation of the round is a bit strangely aligned still (meaning "You have xx" is left aligned the rest is centered)
23:54:28dan_azivan56: Does ata_init() work correctly?
23:54:41dan_asansadict: In the root of the Sansa
23:54:56midgey34pixelma: you think that should be center aligned?
23:55:35sansadictok
23:57:03pixelmamidgey34: that's hard to say because it also refers to "dealer" and "player"...
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23:57:19zivan56dan_a: it gets through ata_init
23:57:53midgey34hmm
23:58:31pixelmaI have no idea about it atm but it looks a bit strange

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