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#rockbox log for 2007-04-28

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00:14:18toffe82scorche: where?
00:14:33scorchetoffe82: signature at mgm grand
00:14:37scorchei am writing a mail
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00:36:20Rob24Are there any onther games in developement for rock box?
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00:38:23markunRob24: not that I know of
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00:41:50scorcheRob24: you can check flyspray
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00:43:28SoapThis issue being, Rob24, that games aren't core developement, and tend to be lovingly crafted by individuals on their own with little discussion until they are close(r) to finished.
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00:44:14SoapSo someone might be working on a Frogger clone right now, but not talking about it.
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00:48:18scorche***New mail sent concerning Devcon-W...please read and comment if you have one***
00:50:37Soap14kB/s?
00:50:43SoapI've never had speeds below 200
00:50:45Soapdang
00:50:52scorchekeep reading
00:51:00scorcheothers were fine, but you have another mirror ;)
00:51:11scorcheand some suggestions for the wiki page
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00:52:12Soapyea, It's still a hybrid of jd's and my work.
00:53:24SoapI'd like more concrete suggestions, as it is a more complicated install than VMware, and unless we get redistribution permission for all the linked files, they can't be all packaged together.
00:54:08scorchei was thinking a "you will need:" section
00:54:25Soaphmm
00:54:37SoapWill work on that tomorrow morning.
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01:08:48toffe82scorche: where is the mail ?
01:09:09scorchehttp://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2007-04/0097.shtml
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02:25:23haxahoy hoy
02:26:22haxis there any particular reason why rockbox shouldn't work on my 5.5G 80gb ipod?
02:26:36haxthe site says it shouldn't, but i'm wondering why
02:30:32Nico_Phax it has to do with the hard drive controller or something like that
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03:45:37Soul-SlayerI swear there is nowhere in the UK to buy a Gigabeat F series :p
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04:09:25crazy_busI don't really listen to music so I'm wondering what is the cheapest player that is capable of playing ogg vorbis on rockbox
04:10:12scorcheprobably a 1st gen 1 gig nano
04:10:33scorchebut, you could find one of the older devices on ebay for cheaper
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04:23:12crazy_busthanks for the reply. If I get an older device off ebay is there a chance that rockbox will stop supporting it since its older?
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04:28:20Soul-SlayerI highly, highly doubt it.
04:28:55Soul-SlayerIf a new feature can't be used on a certain target, then it's usually just not included on it and will run as usual.
04:32:21Soul-SlayerWhich target has the best battery life?
04:32:32Soul-Slayer*Is still looking to buy a new one*
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04:38:51chrisjs169i don't use svn much, but just to confirm, checking out the first time downloads everything, but after that it only downloads modified files, correct?
04:39:30Soul-SlayerYep.
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04:40:06chrisjs169ok, guess i'll be using that from now on instead of downloading everything over again
04:40:08chrisjs169Thanks
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04:40:58scorcheSoul-Slayer: iaudio m5
04:43:25scorchewithout backlight, i believe amiconn got >50 hours on it
04:44:45Soul-Slayer?!
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04:44:52Soul-SlayerThat's insane
04:44:55chrisjs169>50 hours?!?
04:45:10Soul-SlayerDid he strap a car battery to it or something?
04:45:51myndziwell i decided to try and compile rockbox for myself, was following along with the wiki page "SimpleGuideToCompiling" −− found some typos and other errors (make isn't listed as a package to install, lols), registered an account to fix this, and the damn wiki tells me access denied? isn't that sort of the opposite of what a wiki is about?
04:45:52scorcheyeah...it is quite the little power horse
04:45:58myndzianyway: somebody else can fix it, i am just pointing it out
04:46:20scorchemyndzi: we have had spam problems
04:46:44scorchewhen you registered, did you not see the red text? ;)
04:46:54myndzii only skimmed stuff
04:46:58myndzi:P
04:47:03scorchehttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/TWiki/TWikiRegistration
04:47:10scorchewe even made it red! =P
04:47:11myndziclicked the activate link etc. my goal wasn't to be a wiki "person", just fix some mistakes i noticed
04:47:20myndzioic
04:47:25myndzionly the important was red! ;D
04:47:41myndzii actually just skipped right ahead to the form </noob>
04:47:49myndziand here i yell at fools for not reading the topic in my channels :(
04:48:40scorcheSimpleGuideblahblah doesnt list make as needed because that isnt part of that..you should already ahve the environment set up
04:48:59myndzimaybe it was a different page... one sec
04:49:08myndziit rather listed everything else, including gcc
04:49:20scorcheCygwinDevelopment?
04:49:31myndziah, twas cygwindevelopment
04:49:32myndziya
04:49:38myndziit says it right there
04:49:40scorche"Devel - make"
04:49:42myndzii guess i am just a failure at life
04:49:48myndziI CAN STILL FIX TYPOS :D
04:49:52*scorche gently pats myndzi
04:49:54*myndzi gently pats scorche
04:50:12myndzii'm gonna cry now.. i lookin like a huge noob! :P
04:50:16scorchehehe
04:50:20scorchewhat is your name?
04:50:28myndzi(which, when it comes to this, is quite true)
04:50:44myndzieh, KrisReeves
04:51:31scorcheyou can now edit pages
04:51:42myndzithanks
04:51:46scorche(although i dont know if i should have let you =P)
04:51:50myndzihaha
04:51:54myndzii know better than to edit things i don't know :)
04:52:02scorchealright =)
04:52:04myndzii will make a monster revision as my first edit!
04:52:15myndzi"encorporate" -> "incorporate"
04:52:18*myndzi whistles innocently
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04:52:46myndziand while i'm at it.. enviroment -> environment :)
04:52:54scorchewell, keep in mind that not everyone here has english as a first language ;)
04:53:19scorchethen again, many of those have much better english than those that do
04:54:19Soul-SlayerI swear most rockboxed targets are highly unavailable within England o.0 All the gigabeats I can find would be shipped from the USA
04:54:29myndzioh, i realize.. i can't contribute much but hey :)
04:54:58myndziif i figure out how to mess with the menus and controls i may attempt to patch the interface to not be confusing as hell (at least on my h300 :P)
04:55:02Soul-SlayerYou mean, realise :P Careful with these typo's you plan on correcting :p.
04:55:23myndzii previewed
04:55:27myndzihaven't saved anything yet
04:55:28myndziand:
04:55:36myndzihttp://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=realize
04:55:44myndzihttp://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=realise
04:55:52scorchemyndzi: you might want to talk to jdgordon when he comes around here if you cnat figure it out
04:56:07scorcheoh now...dont bring up that discussion again!
04:56:09Soul-SlayerAh, sorry, my fault for being British :p.
04:56:24myndzii noticed :) i'll leave it be.. just looked like a typo
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04:56:32myndzi(most of those words tend to just be extra u's ya know?)
04:56:48scorcheit adds flavour!
04:57:06myndzimhmm
04:57:27myndziit's not highlighted as a typo now so i can't find where it is D:
04:58:23myndzioh, meh
04:58:39myndzii changed an s->z somewhere, i didn't realize (hurr) you were poking fun at my irc text
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05:35:05General_CrespinG'morning all; Is there a way to modify the default Rockbox WPS?
05:35:09General_CrespinAll I want is to add a background image.
05:36:13scorcheGeneral_Crespin: yes...there is typically a rockbox_default theme packaged that you can edit
05:37:03General_CrespinThe rockbox_default wps and rwps files just have a line that says:
05:37:03General_Crespin# Dummy file to allow Rockbox to reset to the default WPS config.
05:37:03General_Crespin# Do not edit this file. It's never actually loaded by Rockbox.
05:37:45scorcheyou can edit it, but you just have to specify to load that one
05:38:18General_CrespinHow do I edit it?
05:38:19scorchealternatively, you can copy everything in it besides that, rename it, and set a background if you are uncomfortable with simply editing that one
05:38:22General_CrespinI think I'm missing something. =\
05:38:25scorchewith a text editor
05:38:36General_CrespinI open up any other WPS or RWPS file, there is code to edit.
05:38:42scorcheah...that
05:38:55General_CrespinCorrect.
05:38:56scorchethe default wps code is in the wiki
05:39:02General_CrespinOkay, thanks.
05:39:48General_CrespinGot it.
05:39:58chrisjs169when running make a second time after checking out the svn version, I always get "redeclaration of enumerator 'LANG_VIDEOS'" (i'm using the video menu patch) any ideas?
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05:40:55scorchei would ask the patch maker
05:41:00LeetlandonHey guys,.
05:41:13*scorche hides
05:41:17Leetlandon...
05:42:38General_CrespinThanks for your help, scorche.
05:42:40LeetlandonI have Rockbox on 2 sansa's, and the top 3 pixels are like.. Dead?
05:42:55scorcheit is a common issue...search the forums
05:43:01chrisjs169scorche: i think the patch is alright, because it's only after the first time i run make do I get that error
05:43:07LeetlandonOh alright.
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05:43:21LeetlandonAnd how could I modify Brikemania for the scroll wheel?
05:43:31chrisjs169and before starting to use svn, I didn't have a problem
05:43:59chrisjs169Leetlandon: I tried that i little bit once before, but it wasn't very responsive
05:44:27scorchechrisjs169: i dont know what to tell you atm, and i am doing a few other things atm and really cant help you in great detail...sorry
05:44:52chrisjs169scorche: ok, thanks though
05:45:25LeetlandonChris: So, I shouldn't bother (I am very basic with c)
05:46:10chrisjs169Leetlandon: it might be worth trying, but in the 15 minutes that I spend messing around with it, it didn't seem very responsive, but I think I probably missed something
05:46:14scorcheLeetlandon: well, it is a projet where you could learn a bit...basically, look at other plugins that use the scrollwheel and adapt the code
05:46:41chrisjs169sent you a link to the patch I did if you want to modify it
05:48:07General_CrespinMm.
05:48:08General_CrespinThe default code listed on the Wiki isn't the same as rockbox_default.wps.
05:48:54LeetlandonYeah, thats the same as the doom kinda patch, but that's also very un responsive.
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05:59:41*General_Crespin gives up.
05:59:56General_CrespinI just wanted to set a picture of a friend of mine as the backdrop but I wanted to keep the default WPS.
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06:23:49scorchehcs: how is the date for you?
06:24:29chrisjs169My sansa just completely crashed (no lcd, scrollwheel, or audio) and when going to resume playback, it says 'error accessing playlist control file'
06:24:45chrisjs169i'm guessing it's just because of the crash?
06:25:25hcsscorche: I don't see a date anywhere yet
06:25:35scorchehcs: latest mail
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06:26:35hcsoh, I only get the digests, let's ee
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06:29:51hcsscorche: well, the date is ok, but it remains to be seen if I'll be able to get there
06:30:01scorchework?
06:30:27hcsgetting off work I don't worry about, travelling I do
06:30:50scorcheah..so the flight?
06:31:09hcsit'd probably have to be
06:31:21hcsI'll be in Austin, TX at the timer
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06:31:43hcsIn any case, I'm far from essential
06:32:17scorchetechnically, IRC is enough...this whole conference isnt essential
06:32:25scorcheso quit thinking that ;)
06:32:32scorchethe more, the merrier
06:32:35hcstrue
06:33:00scorchewell, i would love to have you there, so just let me know...when do you think you would know if you can come or not?
06:34:49hcsprobably not until latish may
06:35:40scorchehrm...flights will be more expensive if you wait that long, but alright
06:37:46scorchei suppose, if you can find a cheap, refundable ticket...hotels seem to not get that expensive unless you book with less than a week left, but you can make arrangements with others for a room though
06:38:58[steveo]hey is there a place that tells us whats been updated on rockbox since we last downloaded it?
06:39:48scorche[steveo]: MajorChanges
06:39:58scorcheotherwise, there is the changelog on the bottom of the site
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06:56:53samamanjarohello
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07:01:30samamanjaroi got a problem with my gigabeat f40 running rockbox
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07:19:05amiconnscorche: The M5L is the target with the longest battery runtime. The test without backlight and 192kbps mp3 ran for almost 52 hours (51:57)
07:19:56scorcheaye...that is what i said...
07:20:06amiconnNo, you said M5
07:20:20amiconnThe M5L relates to the M5 like the X5L to the X5
07:20:34scorcheyeah...the L must have ran off....sorry
07:21:05amiconnThe L means a secondary battery so the L models have like 2.5x the battery capacity
07:21:21scorchei know what it means, and thought L...just must not have typed it
07:23:13amiconnSo the next-longest running target is the X5L, but due to the extra hardware it only achieves ~75% of the M5L runtime
07:23:41amiconnHmm...
07:24:15scorcheyes...i know all that....as i said, i thought M5L and knew that.....the "L" just escaped my fingers..im sure everyone in here knows about my typos
07:24:19BHSPitMonkeyamiconn, that battery life seems ridiculous
07:24:33scorcheBHSPitMonkey: but it is true
07:24:57BHSPitMonkeyI didn't say I was skeptical of his honesty -.-
07:26:39*amiconn wonders whether we put the fm radio chip to sleep on the X5 when not in use...
07:26:59amiconnIt may be one of the causes why runtime is shorter on X5
07:28:29amiconnIt typically draws a total of 11.5mA when operating, but only 0.06mA in standby
07:29:09amiconnThis is for the philips TEA5767, but since the DA202 is command compatible I would expect similar values for it
07:31:59amiconnThis would explain half of the difference in current consumption between X5 and M5...
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11:42:42PaulJam_Slasheri: are you there?
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11:52:48PaulJam_Slasheri: If you read the logs: it seems as if the fix you committed on 31 Mar 06:49 for the runtimeinfo to not be updated on manual stopping doen't always work. it seems as if "playlist_end" returns true as soon as the last track is fully buffered. So when you stop playback manually near the end of the playlist it still increases the playcount leading to a wrong autoscore.
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12:07:07scorcheI just read through the Plugins/Viewers forum...i think my IQ just dropped 10 points...
12:12:16pixelmawhy??? ;)
12:14:01SlasheriPaulJam_: oh
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13:04:48amiconnSlasheri: Hmm, I thought some more about metronome, the sim, timers, and swcodec/pcm
13:05:26amiconnI now tend to think that using the pcm clock for metronome timing on swcodec might be a better idea
13:06:07amiconn...and keep the timer on hwcodec. In fact the timer should be used in a different way on them.
13:06:28amiconnCurrently the timer is just used to generate 1024Hz "miniticks"
13:07:59amiconnI think we can do better than that
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14:42:51JdGordonNico_P: the iconset filename in the cfg is the same rules as the wps and background filenames... i.e they should have the full path
14:44:59Nico_PJdGordon: ?
14:45:18JdGordonThemeGuidelines
14:45:35JdGordonhmm... sorry.. i just checked the diff
14:45:41JdGordonit was redbreva, not you
14:51:57Nico_PJdGordon: why not changes the builtin icons to something a bit fancier on color targets ?
14:52:21JdGordonbecause noone has uploaded a great 6x8x16 iconset yet
14:52:26JdGordonor even 8x8
14:54:26Nico_Pok
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15:17:12JdGordonzzzzZZZZzzzzz bored
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16:06:53JdGordonwell that was odd.... the backlight turned itself off before duruing playback (as expected), but moving the wheel (e200) didnt wake up the backlight (known bug).... but after the playlist stopped it all started working again@
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16:37:31JdGordoncan ttf fonts be converted to rockbox font format?
16:38:02linuxstbYes. But don't ask any follow-up questions...
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16:52:47JdGordonthat was fairly easy :p
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18:07:34markunlinuxstb: maybe the old button layout was not so bad afterall if we made A shutdown..
18:07:43markundamn
18:07:54markunlets see howmany people complain
18:08:01markunmaybe we should make a poll
18:10:10*Soap never used power / a normally. D
18:10:21SoapDon't know what I am missing.
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18:14:49TrueJournals_Would it be possible to use a viewer icon in the root menu?
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18:17:40PzsdIs it possible to make your own rockbox splash screen?
18:17:55vertic23pah!
18:17:57vertic23go to hell :P
18:18:12markunvertic23: wrong window?
18:18:37vertic23markun: right time?
18:18:38markunPzsd: no, but it might be possible again in future
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18:19:04Pzsdmarkun, doh :P I wanted to replace the startup w/ a picture of my son
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18:19:18markunPzsd: well, it's possible if you compile your own bootloader
18:19:20vertic23that's cute
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18:19:40Dimedowhere can i get an up-to-date tagdb generator
18:19:41Pzsdmarkun, is the source available?
18:19:41Dimedo?
18:19:59TrueJournalsDimedo: There isn't one as far as I'm aware
18:20:20markunPzsd: but on some targets that's a bit dangerous as you might brick your player if you make any mistakes to the bootloader..
18:20:31Dimedomy problem is, that the internal routine hangs up after about 2000 found entries
18:20:56PaulJamisn't the splash part of the firmware (not the bootloader)?
18:21:46Dimedois there a way to see the entry icons if black background and white foreground is set?
18:22:53markunPaulJam: oops, you are right
18:23:02markunPzsd: so I was wrong :)
18:23:30Pzsdmarkun, where can i get the firmware source?
18:24:03markunPzsd: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DocsIndex#For_Developers
18:24:11Pzsddank je
18:24:15Pzsd:D
18:24:39markunyou need to change the bmp for your player in apps/bitmaps/native/
18:25:22markunand could you please not change your nick all the time?
18:25:31Pzsdi cant help it
18:25:33markunok
18:25:37Pzsdi get banned on another nicks :(
18:25:53markunwhat are you doing to get banned?
18:26:16PzsdNot here... other channels, but mostly ignoring the rules
18:26:25markunaha
18:26:39markunwell, I guess after a while you will know their rules and stick to 1 nick, right?
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18:27:06mooshola !
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18:27:13PimpdaddyPayneThere
18:27:38markunPimpdaddyPayne: so that's the final one?
18:27:51PimpdaddyPayneYes
18:27:59PimpdaddyPaynemarkun, is source not available to be built for nano?
18:28:21markunsure it is, the source is the same for all players
18:28:30PimpdaddyPayneBut it doesn't give ipods as a target
18:28:37markunwhat do you mean?
18:29:10markundid you download the source with svn?
18:29:22PimpdaddyPayneno, i downloaded the tarball
18:29:27markunah, ok
18:29:45markunand now you are trying to compile?
18:29:47PimpdaddyPaynehttp://rafb.net/p/lEGQkL63.html
18:29:55PimpdaddyPayneThis is a list of targets that the configure script will accept
18:30:17markunI have a very different list
18:30:27markunwhere did you download this tarball?
18:30:42markunit looks like and ancient version
18:30:50markuns/and/an/
18:31:32PimpdaddyPaynehttp://www.rockbox.org/download/rockbox-2.5.tar.gz
18:31:52markunwhat about http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-source/rockbox-bleeding.tar.bz2
18:32:00markun2.5 is very old
18:32:06PimpdaddyPayneHmm, that wasn't listed on this page.. thanks
18:32:24markunah, it was on a wiki?
18:32:36markunwhich one? (so I can fix)
18:32:36PimpdaddyPaynehttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide#Get_The_Source
18:32:48markunthanks
18:32:50PimpdaddyPaynen/p
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18:36:26markunPimpdaddyPayne: ok, fixed I think
18:36:42PimpdaddyPayne:D
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18:42:24PimpdaddyPaynemarkun, eep! the only rpm of arm-elf-gcc arm-elf-binutils are really outdated
18:42:26PimpdaddyPaynecpp0: config.h: No such file or directory
18:42:48markunPimpdaddyPayne: try the tools/rockboxdev.sh script
18:43:19markunit downloads and builds the cross compiler for you
18:43:35PimpdaddyPayneah, sweet :D
18:44:20markunbtw, would you like to work on rockbox?
18:44:37PimpdaddyPayneto be honest, i dont have any skills
18:49:47Dimedoare Matroska/MP4 conatainers playable on rockbox?
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18:55:23PimpdaddyPaynemarkun, http://rafb.net/p/2SyPDa83.html
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18:57:21markunPimpdaddyPayne: bizar, it used to work fine here at least
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18:57:45markunif you can't find out what's wrong maybe you can talk to Bagder about it (he made the script)
18:58:01PimpdaddyPayneah ok
18:58:10linuxstb_Dimedo: Matroska isn't supported. MP4 is supported for AAC and Apple Lossless audio.
18:58:39Dimedoare there plans to support Matroska and more mp3 in MP4?
18:58:55Dimedoforget the "more"
18:59:23markunDimedo: no plans, but it's an open source project so you never know
18:59:26linuxstb_Dimedo: There are not really plans for anything - people implement things and submit patches.
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19:00:12Dimedoyesyes, i was impressed, i didn't update rockbox since end of 2006
19:00:22Dimedoand it's amazing what has been done since then
19:02:19linuxstb_What advantages would there be for putting mp3 in MP4, or supporting anything in Matroska (as opposed to the format's native container).
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19:04:59myndzii just updated my build yesterday.. but i can't seem to find the setting to resume playback on startup? can anyone point me in the right direction?
19:05:15linuxstb_PimpdaddyPayne: Is that all the output of the rockboxdev script?
19:05:19markunlinuxstb_: It would be useful if some native containers lack some features (like replaygain or unicode) but maybe that's not the case for any of the codecs we use
19:06:03linuxstb_myndzi: It's now the more flexible "Startup Screen" option. I think it's somewhere like Settings -> General Settings -> System
19:06:10PaulJammyndzi: it's now under general settings - system - startup screen
19:06:21myndzimmk
19:06:35myndzisure is counterintuitive-er now :P (I don't associate "screen" with "playing music" :)
19:06:47myndzibut that's fine, long as i don't have to futz with it every time
19:06:54markunlinuxstb_: can you store replaygain tags in a wma file for example? (if we even support that)
19:06:58PimpdaddyPaynelinuxstb, no, there was more, but i didnt see anything odd... most of it is out of my buffer
19:06:58myndzithanks
19:07:46linuxstb_markun: Just stick an id3v2 tag at the start of the .asf - that's what everyone seems to do with every codec... :)
19:08:15markun:)
19:08:24markunpretty bad
19:08:26PimpdaddyPaynelinuxstb, gonna >> it to a file, and post it
19:09:12linuxstb_PimpdaddyPayne: The first thing to check would be the directories listed at the top of the script - make sure you have write access to them.
19:09:59linuxstb_markun: Better seeking in VBR MP3 files could be a valid reason for using a container...
19:11:44markunit would be nice if codecs wouldn't so tightly coupled to containers (like the case of vorbis + ogg)
19:12:33Nico_Pdoes someone have an idea how much I could sell an H320 with brand new batt and HDD from iriver ?
19:12:39PimpdaddyPaynelinuxstb, ok, rerunning the script again... checked permissions, they are fine...
19:12:46Nico_PI originally bought it for 323 €
19:13:09PimpdaddyPaynelinuxstb, it extracts everything fine... but i noticed that it never generated an arm-elf-gcc exec... but it did general other arm-elf-* executables
19:13:16BHSPitMonkeyNico_P, I bet you could sell it for more with rockbox on it -.-
19:13:30Nico_P:)
19:13:49linuxstb_PimpdaddyPayne: The other arm-elf-* executables will be the binutils. So it seems the binutils is working, but gcc isn't. What OS are you using?
19:14:01PimpdaddyPayneFedora , linux
19:15:54linuxstb_PimpdaddyPayne: And there are no obvious errors in the log?
19:16:16linuxstb_And you have plenty of free disk space?
19:16:23PimpdaddyPaynenone... except 'nothing to do for all'
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19:19:33chrisjs169wow....it took me 15 mins to brick my sansa, yet only 5 to unbrick it
19:20:00linuxstb_Then you didn't brick it...
19:20:12chrisjs169yeah i did...i purposely tried to
19:20:17chrisjs169to see what would happen :P
19:21:05chrisjs169well, not a 'full' brick, but enough to kill the BL
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19:22:18linuxstb_PimpdaddyPayne: You could try installing gcc manually - see the CrossCompiler wiki page. Make sure to use the same −−prefix that the rockboxdev.sh script used for the binutils, and add the location of the arm-elf-* files to your PATH before compiling and installing gcc.
19:22:37PimpdaddyPaynei have gcc
19:22:53PimpdaddyPaynebut i guess the version i have doesn't allow crosscompiling...
19:23:12linuxstb_I meant arm-elf-gcc
19:23:18PimpdaddyPayneoh
19:23:51PimpdaddyPayneattempting a rebuild...looks like it's wrapping up
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19:25:07PimpdaddyPayneThe rpm package available for Fedora is like 2.9.5... old
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19:26:33linuxstbThat won't build Rockbox.
19:27:21PimpdaddyPayneyeah, i saw like 4.0 + on the wiki
19:27:31PimpdaddyPaynelooking for the arm-elf-gcc source now
19:27:31linuxstbFor most people, rockboxdev.sh runs smoothly. So I don't know why it's failing for you.
19:27:44linuxstbSee the CrossCompiler wiki page - that has the links you need.
19:27:56linuxstbThere is only one version of the gcc source.
19:28:55Dimedolinuxstb_: about your Matroksa/MP4 question
19:29:04Dimedoi don't know it exactly
19:29:20Dimedoi have seen some mp3 in mp4 already
19:30:32Dimedoi think it may be a good idea to standardize meta data and addon features, which are quite different between OGG and MP3
19:31:15Dimedosuch as lyrics as text-subtitles
19:31:36Dimedowhich isn't supported by MP3 nor OGG as far as i know
19:31:44PimpdaddyPayneSeems to be going a lot longer this time around
19:31:58PimpdaddyPayneI think what happened was the $PATH didn't get set in the first go around
19:32:06Dimedolinuxstb:
19:32:58linuxstbDimedo: That doesn't seem enough of an advantage to persuade a developer to work on it. But you never know...
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19:33:53linuxstbBut I would like to see Rockbox support as many codecs/containers as possible - people should be able to drag and drop whatever weird formats they have on their disk to a Rockbox'd DAP and play them.
19:34:44*petur has a bunch or .rm files he hasn't played for a while :)
19:34:47Dimedosure, a good plan
19:34:48PimpdaddyPayneheh
19:34:56PimpdaddyPaynethis is gonna be awhile, only generating combine.o now
19:36:25linuxstbpetur: There's a fixed-point Realaudio Cook decoder in ffmpeg waiting to be ported...
19:37:23petur:)
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20:25:44SliMMhello
20:26:01SliMMis there a circle drawing function in the plugin api?
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20:30:09Strykrallo
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20:34:59SliMMstrykr: hi
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20:35:48Strykrno1 else on? or they just silent..
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20:36:07Strykrno1 else on or they just silent?
20:36:08SliMMi think no one else is on
20:36:15SliMMmaybe PaulJam
20:36:25Strykroops double post
20:36:55SliMMmay i try to help yiu, or r u dev?
20:37:00SliMMyou*
20:38:27Strykrnah dont need n e help
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20:38:38SliMMok
20:38:48Strykrim a programmer i already kno enough to be able to help myself
20:39:06SliMMdo you know if there is a circle function in the plugin api?
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20:39:43Strykruh dunno i just started workin on Rb today..
20:39:51Strykrill look tho
20:39:57SliMMok
20:40:14SliMMi've found a very nice fixed point one on wikipedia
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20:41:15SliMMi've also been looking for a while now at wu's algorithm for aa lines
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20:41:22SliMMbut i'm just too lazy :))
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20:50:00*ender` yawns
20:51:23*lex yawns too
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21:47:44intgrAre the different m68k subarchitectures assembly-compatible?
21:48:14Bagderno
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23:27:38senabhas anyone had any problems when loading wps's?
23:29:07PaulJamwhat kind of problem?does it show the default wps?
23:29:14senabyep
23:29:45senabive just compiled a new build, now it only shows the default wps with peakemeters
23:31:08PaulJamrun a simulator with −−debugwps and load the wps there, this should give some info where the wps pharser fails.
23:31:32senabwill do, thanks
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23:46:13senabpauljam: is there anything in particular i should look for
23:46:29senabbecause everything looks ok to me
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23:48:14PaulJamdoen't it show "failed to load wps" or something in the console output?
23:48:23senabnope
23:48:35senabinfact, this log looks to be the default wps
23:48:48senabyes it is, it's got a peakmeter at the bottom
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23:49:29chrisjs169is there any way to make the scrollwhell less bright? (sansa)
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23:50:15PaulJamsenab: do you use the uisim in windows?
23:50:25senabim on linux
23:51:04PaulJami meant the output in the console window, not the simulator window.
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23:51:21senabso do i
23:51:32senabthe console output is the default wps
23:51:54senabi've even loaded the wps up via the menu and it's still crap
23:53:07PaulJamhmm, then i have no idea.
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23:54:19PaulJamwhat patches do you use that add/modify wps tags?
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