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| 00:49:13 | * | preglow sips de koninck |
| 00:49:25 | petur | aka 'bolleke' |
| 00:49:29 | preglow | heh, yeah |
| 00:49:57 | preglow | it's not bad |
| 00:49:57 | * | petur discovers he has no beer in the house... |
| 00:49:58 | preglow | like all belgian beer |
| 00:49:59 | petur | hahaha |
| 00:49:59 | * | preglow has a delirium tremens |
| 00:50:07 | petur | oh, the pink elephants |
| 00:50:10 | preglow | indeed |
| 00:50:12 | preglow | i hear it's good |
| 00:50:35 | petur | it's a very small artisanal brewery not so far from where I live |
| 00:50:48 | * | pixelma asks herself if petur gets triggered on sorts of beer too (maybe only belgian ones) ;) |
| 00:51:00 | pearldiver | what are the KBD_MODES ? |
| 00:51:15 | petur | hey, stay on topic! |
| 00:51:20 | preglow | :P |
| 00:52:02 | preglow | smaller breweries are fun |
| 00:52:04 | pearldiver | japanese beer for me |
| 00:52:08 | preglow | looking forward to that |
| 00:52:14 | * | petur is sure he'll miss being on devcon if customs don't get the beer out of his luggage |
| 00:52:19 | pearldiver | but anyway, KBD_MODES |
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| 00:53:02 | preglow | i heard some rumours tripel karmeliet will be available soon |
| 00:53:12 | preglow | would make me smile |
| 00:53:33 | markun | me too |
| 00:53:50 | petur | oh I've got a 75cl of that in the house... bit much to drink now |
| 00:54:01 | preglow | curses and curses |
| 00:54:17 | petur | I'll bring that and take orders for other brands :) |
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| 00:54:41 | preglow | westvleteren would be a good choice... |
| 00:54:45 | preglow | i hear de dolle makes good stuff too |
| 00:54:59 | petur | westvleteren is hard to get, even for us |
| 00:55:05 | preglow | i know :) |
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| 00:57:32 | toffe82 | talking about beer, I think everybody now this : http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-assembler-(arm)-799.html |
| 00:57:53 | preglow | ahahaha |
| 00:58:05 | toffe82 | somebody want to put it in rockbox :) |
| 00:58:30 | toffe82 | like a easter egg ;) |
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| 01:01:31 | preglow | yes, and we'll incorporate a huuuuge beer list for variety! |
| 01:01:39 | toffe82 | ;) |
| 01:01:43 | preglow | beer.rocks |
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| 01:02:17 | preglow | petur: why "bolleke", btw? does it mean anything, or is it just a name? |
| 01:02:38 | moos | or anonymous alcoholic.rock instead ;p |
| 01:02:51 | preglow | heh |
| 01:03:12 | petur | preglow: because of the glass which is almost like a sphere |
| 01:04:47 | preglow | right |
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| 01:06:27 | * | p3tur edited devcon wiki page :) |
| 01:08:17 | amiconn | petur: It's called Bromma afaik |
| 01:08:40 | amiconn | Oh, and btw, some beers are available in PET bottles here |
| 01:08:48 | amiconn | (regarding the weight of glass) |
| 01:08:50 | petur | fixed |
| 01:09:12 | petur | bah, beer in plastic |
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| 01:09:32 | amiconn | I know, not ideal, but much easier to carry around |
| 01:10:01 | petur | rather bring one glass bottle than two plastic ones |
| 01:10:39 | petur | anyway, 20kg luggage will get me far :) |
| 01:11:12 | * | moos add petur to his alcohlic list ;) |
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| 01:11:30 | * | petur needs some sleep, tomorrow it house painting again |
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| 01:12:15 | fagin | Where can I find info on how to make album art work? I understand that you need a build with the right patch, but what format should the album art itself have? |
| 01:12:16 | preglow | hmm |
| 01:12:23 | toffe82 | moos: for alcohol addiction how much is the consultation |
| 01:12:23 | preglow | also, plastic doesn't break in the suitcase... |
| 01:13:00 | moos | toffe82: like we are in rockbox, I can make an little effort for the price ;-) |
| 01:13:25 | fagin | I have a 24bit 100x100 pixel bitmap image in the folder I am playing the files from now, but I don't see any album art. |
| 01:13:28 | toffe82 | so for buying too much player and drinking too much, I got a price ;) |
| 01:13:38 | moos | hahaha :D |
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| 01:14:19 | moos | toffe82: that just preglow case that could be more expensive ;p |
| 01:14:30 | toffe82 | ;) |
| 01:14:32 | Rincewind^moep | fagin: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AlbumArt |
| 01:15:00 | fagin | Rincewind^moep, Thanks. I'll go and read up. :) |
| 01:15:07 | moos | fagin: album art isn't supported by official builds |
| 01:15:13 | fagin | I know |
| 01:15:31 | fagin | I am trying out some experimental builds just to see if I can get it to work |
| 01:15:46 | Rincewind^moep | I'm suprised you installed the album art patch without reading the wiki page first |
| 01:15:58 | moos | there are some forums around, arent' they? |
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| 01:16:15 | moos | about album art I mean |
| 01:16:24 | fagin | That could be because I found references to album art in the themes page, but not anything about album art itself |
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| 01:26:15 | fagin | Cool! Now Album Art is working for me. Thanks for the link. |
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| 01:40:28 | czxcedas | hello |
| 01:40:39 | czxcedas | can anyone help me |
| 01:41:26 | czxcedas | anyone |
| 01:41:38 | hcs | what with? |
| 01:41:50 | Alonea | czxcedas: you have to ask an actual question first |
| 01:42:16 | czxcedas | i want to get doom on my iriverh10 20gb how do i do that iam a real noob |
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| 01:43:46 | moos | read this first: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginDoom |
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| 01:49:39 | moos | good night europeans |
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| 01:51:57 | axlgreasetires | hello???? any1 here |
| 01:52:22 | axlgreasetires | nvmd i guess so |
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| 01:57:47 | Alonea | axlgreasetires: ask a question |
| 01:58:21 | axlgreasetires | i don't have any questions |
| 01:58:41 | Alonea | axlgreasetires: ah, ok. well, hello then! |
| 01:58:55 | axlgreasetires | bonjour |
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| 02:02:47 | Alonea | konnichiwa! |
| 02:08:22 | billsville | nihao |
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| 02:09:32 | SirGiggles | i am SirGiggles |
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| 02:14:20 | markun | SirGiggles: welcome Sir |
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| 02:18:23 | pearldiver | what are the KBD_MODES ? |
| 02:18:29 | pearldiver | hey markun |
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| 02:21:29 | markun | hi pearldiver |
| 02:21:35 | markun | I don't know what it does |
| 02:21:40 | pearldiver | ha |
| 02:21:41 | pearldiver | really? |
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| 02:23:30 | earHertz | what's teh rockbox standard for a function to tell its caller it's been called with out of range parameters? |
| 02:23:34 | pearldiver | "Enter things any way you like" |
| 02:23:45 | pearldiver | kinda intriguing |
| 02:23:46 | pearldiver | :P |
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| 02:32:28 | HellDragon | lol |
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| 02:46:55 | pearldiver | well |
| 02:47:03 | pearldiver | i guess i'll just try it |
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| 03:10:43 | pearldiver | umm |
| 03:10:48 | pearldiver | i dont see any changes |
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| 03:22:37 | earHertz | senab? |
| 03:22:42 | earHertz | is senab here? |
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| 04:14:25 | sethjohnson | hi I just register on the TWiKi, I'd like write permission as I've created a Rockbox extension for MediaCoder |
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| 04:16:00 | Soap | are you an evil spammer trying to sell penis pills? |
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| 04:16:31 | TrueJournals | Nice |
| 04:16:37 | sethjohnson | hahah nope... |
| 04:16:52 | TrueJournals | Has anyone ever said yes to that? ;-) |
| 04:16:53 | sethjohnson | is there good money in that? |
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| 04:17:22 | Soap | you're in |
| 04:18:05 | Soap | I would have been willing to pay $5 a pill for H3rbAl Vi Agra |
| 04:18:18 | scorche | what exactly does this extension do? |
| 04:18:22 | sethjohnson | cool, Im just headed out the door but Ill add the extension when I get a chance |
| 04:19:40 | sethjohnson | MediaCoder has extensions for different devices(PSP, iPod and other media players) just gives you a popup window with your presets and a cool preview on the video in your player |
| 04:20:33 | Soap | are you looking for hosting - or adding details about it to the PluginMpegplayer page? |
| 04:21:12 | sethjohnson | see this- http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/device.htm I can host it if need be, but whatever works |
| 04:21:24 | sethjohnson | best for you guys |
| 04:21:32 | scorche | what were you planning on editing? |
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| 04:22:33 | sethjohnson | well I thought it would be good to include it with the other methods of encoding on the PluginMpegplayer page. what do you think? |
| 04:22:44 | Soap | yea |
| 04:22:50 | scorche | yes..that is best |
| 04:25:17 | sethjohnson | cool |
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| 05:55:28 | Cyber_wolf | hi, i'm having a problem installing rockbox on my iriver |
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| 05:59:13 | Cyber_wolf | hi |
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| 06:00:08 | Cyber_wolf | can't load rockbox.mi4 file not found and rockbox.h10 same thing |
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| 06:02:17 | webguest60 | hi all |
| 06:03:39 | Cyber_wolf | can someone help? |
| 06:04:22 | webguest60 | wassup cyberwolf? |
| 06:04:27 | webguest60 | (i'm a noob) |
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| 06:06:36 | webguest60 | lol |
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| 06:09:33 | scorche | "lol" |
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| 06:27:02 | avenged_one | Any progress on the Sansa Rhapsody recently? |
| 06:27:39 | scorche | no |
| 06:28:04 | avenged_one | Well that sucks. |
| 06:28:08 | avenged_one | Thanks anyways |
| 06:28:10 | avenged_one | :) |
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| 09:16:56 | My_Sic | hi everybody |
| 09:17:04 | amiconn | lo |
| 09:17:05 | My_Sic | i have a problème with the database |
| 09:17:22 | My_Sic | when i start i have a "database not ready" |
| 09:17:33 | My_Sic | i can use it, but its never updated |
| 09:17:53 | My_Sic | for playing stats and for new files or del files |
| 09:20:20 | amiconn | Hmm, I don't really understand. If it says 'database not ready' you cannot enter it. Instead it should offer you to initialise it, and after the next boot it should be available |
| 09:20:44 | My_Sic | it say when start rockbox "database is not ready" and i can use it |
| 09:21:02 | My_Sic | and it's already initialise |
| 09:21:06 | My_Sic | i have all the file |
| 09:21:27 | amiconn | Then I honestly don't know what happens... never had that behaviour |
| 09:21:38 | My_Sic | database_0.tcd ... database_7.tcd and database_idx.tcd |
| 09:21:53 | My_Sic | it's not the first time for me |
| 09:22:16 | Slasheri | it just briefly displays database not ready on boot? |
| 09:22:31 | My_Sic | and alla the time I have to del the databse and initialise them after. But i loose all the stats |
| 09:22:32 | My_Sic | yes |
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| 09:22:53 | * | amiconn always does a full rebuild instead of a database update |
| 09:22:56 | Slasheri | in that case it's normal because browser tries to enter database sooner it has been checked |
| 09:23:01 | My_Sic | seems to be the database update who say that message |
| 09:23:01 | Slasheri | and then it becomes ready |
| 09:23:31 | Slasheri | My_Sic: and for the song stats, are you sure you have enabled the gather runtime data option? |
| 09:23:32 | amiconn | Slasheri: Hmm, never seen that. Under what conditions would that happen? |
| 09:23:41 | My_Sic | yes it's enable |
| 09:23:52 | Slasheri | amiconn: i am not sure, i have seen that very rarely |
| 09:23:53 | My_Sic | since I have this message, never updated |
| 09:24:16 | Slasheri | amiconn: it happened on boot when browser automatically tries to open the db view |
| 09:24:34 | amiconn | Maybe it only happens when you've set your start screen to db browser? |
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| 09:24:47 | Slasheri | indeed, or resume to the last screen |
| 09:25:06 | amiconn | That explains why I've never seen that happen |
| 09:25:44 | My_Sic | yes it was this |
| 09:26:05 | My_Sic | i change the start screen, and i haven't the message |
| 09:26:25 | amiconn | Slasheri: Btw, I have another database related question myself |
| 09:26:41 | My_Sic | th |
| 09:27:22 | amiconn | If you start an album/whatever from the db browser and let it play, when the playlist ends, rockbox drops back to the db browser as it should |
| 09:27:48 | amiconn | However, in that case it performs 2 database seacrhes before it displays your last folder. Do you know why that happens? |
| 09:28:28 | Slasheri | hmm, interesting.. i rarely use playlists that end so i have never seen that |
| 09:28:48 | amiconn | It seems to me that this behaviour started with the introduction of the root menu |
| 09:29:07 | amiconn | Hehe, and I rarely use repeat, i.e. my playlists (nearly) always end |
| 09:29:17 | Slasheri | :) |
| 09:29:46 | Slasheri | but that sounds weird, what would the db need to search for |
| 09:30:01 | amiconn | Te only purpose I use repeat for is doing runtime tests |
| 09:30:31 | amiconn | Well, if you enter a database 'folder', it needs to gather the entries for display |
| 09:30:48 | amiconn | It indicates that by popping the 'search.... xxxx found' splash |
| 09:31:09 | amiconn | This splash appears twice when dumping back to the db browser after end of playlist |
| 09:31:31 | Slasheri | true, but if that folder is already loaded, it shouldn't be necessary to reload it twice |
| 09:32:01 | Slasheri | probably a problem with the menu system, at least it sounds like that |
| 09:32:04 | amiconn | I don't know whether it's the same folder... |
| 09:32:12 | amiconn | It also happens when stopping, btw |
| 09:32:40 | amiconn | This is without anything 'in ram', i.e. on archos |
| 09:32:49 | Slasheri | ah, i have db in ram so i haven't seen that.. trying soon |
| 09:33:07 | Slasheri | probably it just reloads the current folder content (twice) |
| 09:33:42 | amiconn | Once would be enough.... |
| 09:35:31 | amiconn | Oh, and speaking about things in RAM: you fixed the uniniterruptable dircache scan a while ago, but now there is a related problem. |
| 09:36:12 | amiconn | If you shut down the unit now while a dircache scan is running, dircache will do its scan in the foreground on next boot. I don't think this is intended.... |
| 09:40:35 | My_Sic | juste to say that now the database updating, is working. so never use the database at start screen |
| 09:40:51 | Slasheri | hmm, this is weird.. the unit does the db search always twice when you enter the db view from the root menu. After first search you can even scroll one item down on the list, but if you do that, after the second search is done nothing happens until you press the menu key |
| 09:41:08 | amiconn | odd.... |
| 09:41:11 | Slasheri | My_Sic: hmm, i have had no problems with that |
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| 09:41:24 | amiconn | My_Sic: On what target, btw? |
| 09:41:59 | My_Sic | ipod 60Go 5.0 under "evil ice" build |
| 09:42:04 | My_Sic | whats mean btw ? |
| 09:42:49 | pixelma | btw = by the way |
| 09:43:02 | My_Sic | ok thanks |
| 09:43:04 | My_Sic | hum |
| 09:43:07 | My_Sic | no working |
| 09:43:10 | My_Sic | not working |
| 09:43:17 | My_Sic | i have another problem |
| 09:43:51 | My_Sic | when rockbox have updating the database, it have deleting from the dabase all the old file and now i have only the new |
| 09:47:22 | Slasheri | My_Sic: please try with official build |
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| 09:57:52 | My_Sic | it's the same |
| 09:59:51 | My_Sic | when i restart the player after "update the databse", the player fail at step 1/8. i have to restard again to have all the step |
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| 10:25:26 | dodo1 | hello |
| 10:25:58 | dodo1 | ive got freaky question about rockbox plugins |
| 10:26:14 | dodo1 | do u remember the one named xobox? this game? |
| 10:31:07 | midkay | it still exists. |
| 10:34:20 | dodo1 | yes |
| 10:34:28 | dodo1 | i would like to have this game on my pc |
| 10:34:46 | dodo1 | for winxp |
| 10:34:53 | dodo1 | or similar game |
| 10:34:56 | midkay | it's a clone of "qix". |
| 10:35:04 | midkay | or "xonix". |
| 10:35:14 | dodo1 | qix? thanks midkay thats what i was looking for |
| 10:35:19 | midkay | sure thing. |
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| 10:47:38 | JdGordon | hey all |
| 10:47:48 | HellDragon | hey |
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| 11:09:52 | pixelma | JdGordon: the comment you put in your mail was already mentioned here in IRC |
| 11:10:03 | JdGordon | ah ok |
| 11:10:19 | JdGordon | serves me right for not reading logs then :p |
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| 11:19:05 | amiconn | oops... |
| 11:19:26 | markun | morning amiconn |
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| 11:35:51 | amiconn | markun: morning... but heh, it's almost noon! :) |
| 11:36:28 | JdGordon | still morning then :) |
| 11:36:28 | markun | yes, almost, and I still didn't have breakfast.. |
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| 11:52:07 | webguest93 | hello everybody |
| 11:52:27 | webguest93 | i've got a question about flashing the firmware of the iriver h320.... |
| 11:53:04 | webguest93 | is it possible to downgrade it? i mean i have the version k1.31 but i need the 1.29 so that i can install the rockbox loader.... |
| 11:53:08 | webguest93 | is this possible? |
| 11:53:20 | JdGordon | yes |
| 11:53:50 | webguest93 | so i just have to put an older firmware version on the player's hdd and select the firmware upgrade option? |
| 11:54:03 | JdGordon | yes |
| 11:54:09 | webguest93 | oh cool :) thanks |
| 11:55:08 | webguest93 | can't wait to try rockbox... heard many interesting facts... |
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| 11:59:56 | daurnimator | JdGordon: gday |
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| 12:00:53 | JdGordon | hey |
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| 12:02:24 | daurnimator | how bout tomorrow |
| 12:04:34 | JdGordon | maybe... got soo much work to do tonight and tomrow... maybe when i need a break |
| 12:06:48 | daurnimator | work is for people that aren;t you |
| 12:06:49 | daurnimator | :P |
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| 12:25:55 | obo | amiconn: ping |
| 12:27:04 | amiconn | pong |
| 12:27:33 | obo | hi - was reading your comments in the logs about audioscrobbler |
| 12:28:25 | obo | there are 3 seperate issues, there is a patch for one (6213) |
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| 12:29:16 | obo | One needs a change to playback.c that I can't get to work - and the archos issues seem to stem from a bug in mpeg.c |
| 12:29:42 | obo | oh, and a few bytes can be saved by wrapping mktime() in timefuncs.c in a #ifdef CONFIG_RTC |
| 12:35:02 | amiconn | But why does this thing work _sometimes_ on archos (in a non-predictable manner)? |
| 12:35:14 | amiconn | Almost looks like a race condition on init to me... |
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| 12:36:56 | obo | From patches I had users run (FS #6639) it seems like it's an issue with audio_track_changed_event |
| 12:37:00 | amiconn | I don't have enough time to test atm. |
| 12:37:30 | amiconn | I would like to get some hints what exactly to look for in the log files, as I don't have a last.fm account and won't get one either |
| 12:37:42 | amiconn | Or is it just a simple yes/no issue? |
| 12:38:02 | obo | it should add a line for every track that is played |
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| 13:09:47 | AceNik___ | hey guys im maintaining a patched verison on the source , i wanted to ask is it possible that the patches in the source get replaced n get redundant at any time |
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| 13:13:26 | linuxstb | AceNik___: I'm not sure what you're asking. Patches may get committed to SVN, or the same or similar features may get implemented in a different way, or patches simply go out of sync over time as Rockbox changes. |
| 13:14:11 | AceNik___ | i am maintining a patched version of the svn , i include a few patches n makes builds for myself |
| 13:14:47 | AceNik___ | now the question i have is , at any point of time will the patch code get replaced by updating the source |
| 13:15:22 | desowin | subversion will tell you when there's conflict |
| 13:16:47 | AceNik___ | secondly , suppose i want to create a sync'ed version of a particular patch , but i have multiple patches to the source , how can i produce the latest patch file for a particular patch, svn diff wont do this |
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| 13:21:30 | AceNik___ | anyone ? |
| 13:21:40 | z0de | hi |
| 13:21:41 | linuxstb | AceNik___: One option would be to reverse (i.e. apply them again with patch -R) all the other patches. |
| 13:24:51 | AceNik___ | but then wouldnt that make the patch stop working later , since it worked with the svn update , but removing it would cause some changes to the source that might not be possible to patch again right? |
| 13:25:28 | Lear | Anyone tried adding a radio channel recently? I get an illegal instruction on my H140 build... |
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| 13:26:46 | linuxstb | AceNik___: If patch -R works to reverse the patch, then you will be able to apply it again. |
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| 13:27:56 | AceNik___ | ok , so is there a chnace some of the patches get committed to the svn itself, like for instantance, sokoban improvements? |
| 13:27:58 | Lear | Ah, works on official builds... |
| 13:28:42 | AceNik___ | the sokoban.levels, needs to be copied & renamed to sokobanlevels.sok & then proceed with the patch |
| 13:28:48 | linuxstb | AceNik___: Yes, if someone promotes them to the developers and they are of good enough quality. |
| 13:30:15 | AceNik___ | well the y do seem efficent & derease size & use better coding , i dont see a reason , why , anyways the reason im talking about this is also , if some developer reads the logs & proceeds with it , i ot 2 patches commited earlier this way only , calculator tan & starfield pulse |
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| 13:35:49 | AceNik___ | i wanted to ask is there a way possible where a person could choose stuff he wants in the rockbox build & everything gets compiled into one build or zip & get downloaded |
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| 13:36:57 | AceNik___ | i know if the custom builds cant be made , like the compiling stuff , might be hard to do ,but , atleast we cant start with the option of providing themes , wps. selected plugins , fonts, dictionary |
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| 13:37:21 | * | bluebrother doesn't understand this question |
| 13:37:38 | AceNik___ | i know all this is available through rockbox util , but still it lacks the system to fully cutomise a rockbox build to the users benefit |
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| 13:38:53 | AceNik___ | im talking of somethin like , you just tick the options you wish to have in your build & even select the type of database's , or so , & the custom files would be downlaoded as a custom build together , rather than doin everything yourself |
| 13:39:35 | bluebrother | there are a couple of options that are simply not wanted. For example there was already some discussion about removing themes completely from the builds. |
| 13:39:37 | linuxstb | AceNik___: Are you talking about a system for removing features from Rockbox? |
| 13:40:14 | bluebrother | there is not "I create my customized build on the fly" thing around and I don't believe this is even wanted. |
| 13:40:43 | AceNik___ | no im talkin bout a newbie entering a pae where he can just tick a few options & he gets whatever he wants in his build (zip) & he just needs to place it in his root |
| 13:40:43 | bluebrother | If you want your customized build you'll need to make it yourself. |
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| 13:41:10 | linuxstb | AceNik___: I don't understand then - what would the user not select? |
| 13:41:14 | bluebrother | IMO this is not a feature that is wanted. |
| 13:41:36 | bluebrother | linuxstb, as far as I understood he wants a customizable download |
| 13:42:05 | bluebrother | including the setting of build options |
| 13:42:16 | linuxstb | What build options? There aren't any... |
| 13:42:25 | bluebrother | right ... |
| 13:42:54 | bluebrother | that's the strange part of that question |
| 13:43:01 | AceNik___ | i know that , i make my own builds , but im only trying to see a way possible to make the website interact with the way people want their builds & not , like suppose custom themes can be added , custm fonts can be added , custom config files made there & then & added, cutom database's , tagnavi file |
| 13:43:13 | bluebrother | but anyway, I don't think some on-the-fly customizable zip downloads are feasible at all |
| 13:43:37 | bluebrother | the user can always download that stuff himself |
| 13:43:39 | markun | I'm pretty sure I've seen such a website before |
| 13:43:42 | linuxstb | AceNik___: That is much better handled by Rockbox Utility - we don't want to make the web server do all that work. |
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| 13:43:46 | amiconn | First of all it would be a support nightmare |
| 13:43:51 | bluebrother | and rbutil will integrate taht. |
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| 13:44:02 | markun | where you could select which patches you want to include for your custom rockbox build |
| 13:44:04 | AceNik___ | every option would have their screenshots & decribtion to make the user understand |
| 13:44:21 | * | bluebrother even fears of supporting such a website −− loads of users will be confused to even download Rockbox |
| 13:44:27 | amiconn | Right now we have exactly one set of official builds with exactly one set of features. |
| 13:44:35 | markun | AceNik___: maybe it's better to spend energy in solving the problems why these patches can't be committed.. |
| 13:44:38 | AceNik___ | yup markun patches was on my mind but then i thought of how the compiling on the server would be a problem |
| 13:44:39 | bluebrother | JdGordon had a patch-your-build site up for some time. |
| 13:44:44 | amiconn | If something doesn't work as intended there, it needs to be fixed |
| 13:45:18 | * | JdGordon wonders if I still have the code for that site anywhere |
| 13:45:27 | AceNik___ | well im not denying rockbox utility is a good effor , but it still has loads of options to be included |
| 13:45:47 | amiconn | I know that there are custom builds out there, but these aren't official. So if there's a problem with them, the publisher of these patched builds is your first (and only) contact if there are problems |
| 13:45:54 | bluebrother | then go and create a patch to include that "loads of options" |
| 13:45:58 | AceNik___ | can there be options in rockbox utility to , do the customising in the computer for the user |
| 13:46:14 | linuxstb | AceNik___: By "customising" do you mean applying patches? |
| 13:46:48 | AceNik___ | linuxstb: patching,thats just another part of it |
| 13:46:58 | bluebrother | we have only one set of official binaries |
| 13:47:12 | bluebrother | patching is done against sources, and rbutil is an installer tool, not a compiler |
| 13:47:40 | bluebrother | plus, supporting a user-customized-build beyond the official settings would be a real PITA |
| 13:47:55 | linuxstb | AceNik___: I still don't understand what you want... Rockbox Utility allows you to install themes. Settings can be set in Rockbox itself. There's nothing else for a user to choose. |
| 13:47:59 | AceNik___ | first atleast setting all the configs riight , including cutom themes , wps's , can the rockbox util be made to delete files from the build n include custom files int he zip , all on the computer |
| 13:48:05 | bluebrother | it would also be impossible creating a consistent manual for that. |
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| 13:50:06 | AceNik___ | well , people ( newbie's) dont know how to modify database views , probably they could just select which database they want , & that gets included int he build , i mean screenshots be provided with 4-5 database's |
| 13:50:13 | markun | AceNik___: people in here (like me) are mostly boring conservative rockbox hackers :) Maybe try writing in the forums about your ideas, there are some people who are crazy about customizing there I think |
| 13:50:19 | amiconn | AceNik___: Regarding patches, there is a whole bunch of possible reasons why a patch isn't included in svn yet. |
| 13:50:43 | bluebrother | people who don't know how to customize Rockbox should read the manual |
| 13:50:50 | AceNik___ | at the same time , they would prefer having screenshots of fonts be shown to them , inorder to keep it or delete it , |
| 13:50:57 | bluebrother | that's the reason we write it (and put quite some effort into it) |
| 13:51:19 | markun | bluebrother: I think the manual could do with some restructuring btw |
| 13:51:27 | preglow | markun: it's being talked about |
| 13:51:51 | bluebrother | what _might_ be an option would be to allow the user to select between a couple of default settings, like "apple-like", "default", etc |
| 13:52:01 | markun | when I use the manual to look up something I mostly find it because I know rockbox well already |
| 13:52:06 | AceNik___ | well , i can gaurantee , one thing ,making rockbox more user friendly like this is better & you would see a leap in people using this software more , since it works out easy & customisable very well |
| 13:52:14 | bluebrother | markun, I agree. Still, someone needs to do it ;-) |
| 13:52:25 | markun | yes.. |
| 13:52:30 | bluebrother | but hopefully I'll find more time for working on it in a couple of weeks |
| 13:52:41 | * | linuxstb wonders what "apple-like" means,,, Disable the file browser and limit support to AAC and MP3? |
| 13:52:48 | markun | bluebrother: do you have some good ideas on how to improve it? |
| 13:52:49 | bluebrother | hehe ... |
| 13:53:09 | amiconn | (1) There might be issues with the code itself (e.g. too large/complicated for what it does, coding style etc) (2) There might be problems regarding the multi-platformness of rockbox. The fact that it "appears to work" on one target simply isn't enough (except if it deals with a feature that is only possible on this target, but such features are rare) |
| 13:53:11 | markun | I want Gigabeat OF like! |
| 13:53:18 | bluebrother | linuxstb, like have the database enabled and loaded to RAM initially |
| 13:53:25 | markun | no UMS support, no more games/video |
| 13:53:34 | markun | flashing bubbles in the WPS |
| 13:53:49 | AceNik___ | well im talking about how , you could possibly make rockbox utility show the user stuff , screenshots & desription like the manual & let the user decide what he wants , files can be downlaoded earlier viewed & changes can be made & a final zip can be made on the comp |
| 13:53:51 | bluebrother | so it's more suited for the average ipod user. And choose an apple-like theme ;-) |
| 13:53:54 | amiconn | (3) The simplest one - no developer has looked into the patch yet, for several reasons (lack of interest / time etc) |
| 13:54:29 | bluebrother | markun, tucoz ideas on the ML sound good to me |
| 13:55:03 | bluebrother | rbutil already shows screenshots of the themes to install |
| 13:55:08 | bluebrother | at least afaik. |
| 13:55:47 | * | bluebrother wants a coffee maker plugin |
| 13:55:54 | AceNik___ | \i think its too much work to start a project , bu i beleive its worth it |
| 13:56:19 | amiconn | That's a self-contradiction... |
| 13:56:52 | bluebrother | I don't even understand what's the "project" |
| 13:57:13 | bluebrother | or what it should be, to be exact |
| 13:57:54 | markun | amiconn: a project worth of not starting it? :) |
| 13:58:12 | bluebrother | then let's ... not start it! :) |
| 13:58:31 | amiconn | If it's worth it, it can't be too much work at the same time. Being too much work implies it's not worth it |
| 13:59:15 | AceNik___ | well i obviously feel there have to be ways around to this , makin it work on the individuals computer, the project : a more user friendly descriptive like the manual , rockbox utility , providing the user options to downlaod the daily build to his computer , viewthe contents with screenshots from the manual , delete what he doesnt need, and download custom files , fonts , themes wps, databse views , & zip on the computer a custom build |
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| 14:00:02 | bluebrother | a manual that can install Rockbox? What a nonsense. |
| 14:00:40 | AceNik___ | cant you read , i said rockbos utility , combined to provide information with the help of the manual , rewad properly |
| 14:01:00 | AceNik___ | rockbox utility , read |
| 14:01:26 | bluebrother | yes, but then it becomes a new manual |
| 14:01:37 | bluebrother | which can install Rockbox. And this is nonsense IMO |
| 14:01:51 | bluebrother | btw, I can read. Just to make it clear |
| 14:01:52 | AceNik___ | im out of here , thanks a lot |
| 14:02:26 | markun | AceNik___: have a nice weekend man |
| 14:02:32 | markun | don't take it personally :) |
| 14:02:43 | AceNik___ | blue brother , knows how to make real stupid comments without following the whole conversation |
| 14:03:25 | AceNik___ | bluebrother go make ur maual , ill work on rockbox utility |
| 14:03:33 | AceNik___ | manual |
| 14:03:33 | markun | so, who wants ice cream? |
| 14:03:42 | bluebrother | I followed the conversation. Now you start getting personally. |
| 14:05:18 | bluebrother | rbutil could offer to download (and open) the manual at the first installation page ... |
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| 14:06:21 | AceNik___ | all im trying to point out is this is very well possible & a nice feature to start with, if companies can provide downlaoding .exe to your computer & installin it to your computer , even we can provide , to download the usual files on the computer , modify it , n re-zip to install on the player |
| 14:07:03 | amiconn | Well, what problem you're trying to solve? |
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| 14:07:45 | amiconn | Rockbox can be installed by simply downloading and extracting a .zip (after installing the bootloader on targets where it's needed) |
| 14:07:49 | AceNik___ | no i mean everyfile have a link to the maual by default , so just clicking on viewing the zip , of the daily build n the utility causes it t show you the various files, as i click on a file , right beside in the utility it shows the screenshot & description, if i like it , i keep the file in the zip , or else i delete |
| 14:07:54 | bluebrother | AceNik___, it would also _really_ helpful if you would write short, clear sentences instead of multiple line worms |
| 14:08:09 | bluebrother | most devs are non-native english |
| 14:08:13 | amiconn | If you want further fonts, wps'es, icons - just copy them and select them |
| 14:08:35 | * | bluebrother agrees that there is no problem with the current install |
| 14:08:56 | AceNik___ | amiconn: i know that buddy , but i was thinkin to make it more userfriendly , which is the aimof rockbox utility |
| 14:09:14 | amiconn | There's a manual explaining the possibilities (I'm aware that it needs some work especially regarding the latest features) |
| 14:10:01 | AceNik___ | bluebrother yes there is no problem , its just that making your product more appealing & functional , instead of people reading so much to get it right , they can go step by step with everything |
| 14:10:15 | amiconn | Well afaik the rockbox utility just tries to simplify the first-time install (bootloader installation etc), nothing more |
| 14:10:25 | bluebrother | *sic* |
| 14:10:30 | bluebrother | Rockbox is no product. |
| 14:10:56 | AceNik___ | well its a brand name which will grow ever to be on every possible player |
| 14:11:11 | markun | AceNik___: we're doing this for fun |
| 14:11:13 | bluebrother | amiconn, as far as I understood rbutil also can install themes lateron |
| 14:11:21 | AceNik___ | & its only possible if its made simple for even a 10 yr old to do various things on it |
| 14:11:22 | bluebrother | Rockbox is a project. Not a product. |
| 14:11:32 | amiconn | In some sense rockbox is a product. But at the same time it's an open source coding project and as such it's a moving target |
| 14:12:05 | bluebrother | it's not needed 10 years olds understand it. That's not the target of the project. |
| 14:12:07 | AceNik___ | bluebrother: as always bluebrother you like to drift off , to stupid thins , rather than understanding the point & making an effort to laugh |
| 14:12:07 | amiconn | Keep in mind that there is *no release version* for any other target than the old archoses yet |
| 14:12:31 | bluebrother | oh, getting personal again? |
| 14:12:42 | amiconn | If you're using rockbox on ipod / iriver / iaudio, this can be considered beta testing |
| 14:12:45 | bluebrother | I rather think *you* don't get *my* point |
| 14:13:16 | AceNik___ | amiconn:im aware of that , it shall all happen in due course of time , so does this feature require time,a ll we can do is make stuff towards perfection |
| 14:13:47 | bluebrother | a 10 year old won't be able installing windows too. So why is that needed for Rockbox? |
| 14:14:12 | bluebrother | s/too/anyway/ |
| 14:14:23 | AceNik___ | bluebrother: do you follow up the progress of all children int he world |
| 14:14:58 | bluebrother | do you do it? |
| 14:15:04 | AceNik___ | just all of you givbe your comments finally , do yu think my idea is worth it or no , n ill stop |
| 14:15:34 | markun | AceNik___: the most important think is if *you* think it's work it |
| 14:15:42 | markun | just go for it if you do |
| 14:15:55 | bluebrother | I don't think there is a problem in that field that needs to be solved. |
| 14:15:59 | AceNik___ | bluebrother: no but i han on a possiblitity that , since something like google exists , & todays exposure ,its enough for most of them to be doin wonders already |
| 14:16:22 | bluebrother | it's like usual in open source projects: create a patch ... |
| 14:16:54 | markun | bluebrother: or convice others that it's fun to create one :) |
| 14:16:56 | bluebrother | I don't understand this sentence |
| 14:17:04 | AceNik___ | markuni prefer givin respect to people who are here before me & all i think of doing is coming up as team , but people here grow arrogant , with progree it seems |
| 14:17:22 | bluebrother | markun, yes, but to me even the concept isn't clear at all |
| 14:18:11 | AceNik___ | my whole point of suggesting such a thing was for people to better it or start work on it , but bluebrother keeps interupting drifting away fromt he topic all the time |
| 14:18:52 | bluebrother | AceNik___, first: write clear sentences. Second: stop bitching around. Third: accept that there are people that may have strong objections against your idea(s) |
| 14:19:53 | AceNik___ | bluebrother: im waitin for them to voice it out then , & let a opposite person finish stuff , when he talks , & about my bitching , you were the one who started acting smart |
| 14:20:26 | bluebrother | yeah yeah. |
| 14:20:58 | bluebrother | so calling an idea "nonsense" is "acting smart" now? |
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| 14:21:27 | AceNik___ | well one person saying is not enough , you see |
| 14:22:05 | bluebrother | enough for what? It's my opinion. Simple as is. |
| 14:22:21 | AceNik___ | since you still dont obviously have a clue what i mean , might as well you dont comment on it , cause its a hinderance |
| 14:22:47 | AceNik___ | then its your opinion in the wrong direction towards making thins o right |
| 14:23:06 | bluebrother | you don't need to like my opinion, but by bringing up my objections I'm definitely not drifting away |
| 14:23:19 | bluebrother | oh, but you have a clue what I mean? |
| 14:23:39 | markun | AceNik___: I think you made it pretty clear what you want: a install util where you can select which files get installed based on screenshots and info about it, right? |
| 14:23:40 | bluebrother | and why don't you try to make your idea clear to me? |
| 14:24:01 | bluebrother | if you think I got your idea wrong? |
| 14:24:07 | AceNik___ | & how is makin my idea of extending support to a software , sound like making a manual ? i thing both are way different terms in terms of functionality n need |
| 14:24:50 | Soap | AceNik___: you've been typing angry since 8:00, twenty two minutes ago. I think it would be in the best interest of all if this conversation were shelved for at least an hour for all parties to calm down. If it is a good idea it will be a good idea later. |
| 14:25:40 | AceNik___ | & who are you to decide the scope of rockbox by saying that , its limited to a few select people , it can appeal to everyone , it just needs to be promoted well & made functional well , doesnt the ipods appeal & work out well for a 10yr old ? |
| 14:26:07 | markun | AceNik___: if you just want to argue with bluebrother and ignore all the rest of us please do it in PM |
| 14:26:36 | AceNik___ | im sorry for hamperin progress , please proceed , im no longer to talk |
| 14:26:42 | markun | ok |
| 14:26:53 | bluebrother | I will now follow Soap's advice and stop responding. But to my understanding you definitely haven't got my point at all. |
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| 14:37:23 | markun | amiconn: 64-bit problems? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10308.0 |
| 14:38:34 | amiconn | yes, 100% |
| 14:38:52 | amiconn | A rockbox specific libmad optimisation isn't 64 bit clean |
| 14:39:22 | amiconn | It's a known issue |
| 14:39:37 | amiconn | Other formats work fine, just mpa doesn't |
| 14:42:06 | * | amiconn 's first forum post after a loong time... |
| 14:43:10 | markun | amiconn: I'll try to point you to interesting posts then :) |
| 14:44:09 | amiconn | I have an idea how to fix the problem, but I need to find a proper way to check for sizeof(int) at compile time |
| 14:44:22 | amiconn | I mean in the preprocessor |
| 14:45:20 | preglow | is that even possible? |
| 14:45:56 | amiconn | Not exactly. It'd be possible to check INT_MAX (or MAX_INT? - I always confuse that) |
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| 14:46:13 | amiconn | Perhaps it's something for the configure script to put into autoconf.h |
| 14:46:29 | preglow | INT_MAX |
| 14:46:35 | amiconn | Iirc the configure script runs a tiny program to figure out endianess |
| 14:46:44 | amiconn | (for sim builds) |
| 14:46:46 | preglow | then that's the spot for it, for sure |
| 14:47:29 | amiconn | It could as well spit out sizeof(int), sizeof(long) and whatever else might be interesting information of that type |
| 14:48:33 | amiconn | gtg |
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| 15:21:50 | maffe | :O |
| 15:21:52 | maffe | Hm |
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| 15:51:20 | JdGordon | anyone got any static-X ? |
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| 15:54:39 | * | Domonoky sees talk about rbutil in the logs.. :-) |
| 15:58:23 | Domonoky | has anyone tested rbutil on sansa ? |
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| 16:02:50 | JdGordon | Domonoky: not yet.. have you got a linuxx86 build I can try it with? |
| 16:03:38 | Domonoky | i could build one.. |
| 16:08:43 | Domonoky | hm.. where to but the binary.. |
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| 16:11:19 | Domonoky | JdGordon: http://rapidshare.com/files/29623856/rbutil.tar.gz.html |
| 16:12:29 | JdGordon | ok, having a quick play |
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| 16:13:37 | maffe | . |
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| 16:16:19 | JdGordon | .... once wxgtk2 is installed |
| 16:16:53 | JdGordon | autodetect works |
| 16:17:07 | Domonoky | ah, good news :-) |
| 16:17:50 | JdGordon | bootloader screen was blank..? was that because i didnt run it sudo? |
| 16:18:48 | Domonoky | no, its empty, because no need for more info.. :-) |
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| 16:19:12 | Domonoky | there should be some text in the future, like "are you sure ?" |
| 16:19:28 | JdGordon | oh... it doesnt prompt to install a bl? it just does it? |
| 16:19:37 | Domonoky | yes :-) |
| 16:19:44 | JdGordon | :O ! |
| 16:19:48 | * | JdGordon no likey |
| 16:19:54 | Domonoky | if you selekt ok, in the empty Dialog |
| 16:20:27 | JdGordon | ok, it works fine :) |
| 16:20:35 | * | JdGordon loves the rockbox-themes.org integration |
| 16:20:41 | JdGordon | why is downloading so slow in it though? |
| 16:21:13 | Domonoky | i dont know, it shouldnt be slower than anything else.. |
| 16:21:27 | Domonoky | could be rockbox-themes.org is slow.. |
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| 16:23:54 | JdGordon | no, for some reason doing any downloading from rbutil seems alot slower than normal... |
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| 16:24:29 | Domonoky | hm.. then its the downloading in wxwidgets.. i dont know.. |
| 16:29:01 | XavierGr | bluebrother: on a side note, while I don't agree with AceNick's idea (from what I understood), characterizing someone's idea as "nonsense" in front of him doesn't sound kind to me :P |
| 16:30:38 | * | JdGordon reads the log to find out what the fuss was about! |
| 16:30:47 | JdGordon | XavierGr got my curiosity going :p |
| 16:31:09 | XavierGr | of course his way of describing that idea was rather confusing... and also his babbling was very aggresive IMHO |
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| 16:35:04 | JdGordon | zzzz... logs were boring :p |
| 16:35:07 | JdGordon | back to uni work |
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| 16:38:52 | oblib | Anyone familiar with playlist.c here? |
| 16:39:29 | JdGordon | im familiar with how much of a mess it is.. :) |
| 16:39:40 | oblib | indeed :) |
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| 16:40:01 | oblib | I've been messing around with some stuff, and I'm now getting a segmentation fault if I load a playlist twice. |
| 16:40:27 | oblib | It doesn't have to be the same playlist, just the second time I load a playlist, it crashes |
| 16:40:42 | oblib | Any ideas what function I've broken? |
| 16:40:43 | JdGordon | get the sim going and play in gdb |
| 16:41:09 | oblib | I haven't used gdb for years, and then it was following directions in class |
| 16:41:09 | JdGordon | probably not reinitialising the playlist struct correctly before you load a new one |
| 16:41:33 | oblib | Do you know where it reinitialises? |
| 16:41:41 | JdGordon | not of the top of my head... |
| 16:41:46 | JdGordon | get it going in gdb... |
| 16:41:50 | JdGordon | bt - backtrace |
| 16:41:53 | JdGordon | l - list |
| 16:42:03 | oblib | how do I use gdb and the simulator? |
| 16:42:06 | JdGordon | p <var> - print the <var> variable |
| 16:42:18 | JdGordon | on linux? |
| 16:42:22 | oblib | yeah |
| 16:42:36 | JdGordon | compile a sim build |
| 16:42:48 | JdGordon | then $gdb rockboxui |
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| 16:46:56 | * | aliask thanks JdGordon for getting him onto GDB |
| 16:47:03 | oblib | okay, I did 'start' and then 'continue' and got it to just before the crashing point |
| 16:47:18 | oblib | How do I stop it and get useful info? |
| 16:47:19 | bluebrother | oblib, you might want to google for the gdb cheat sheet or quick reference |
| 16:47:31 | bluebrother | ctrl-c stops execution |
| 16:47:40 | oblib | bluebrother, that's a good idea, thanks |
| 16:48:02 | JdGordon | oblib: easiest thing is get it to crash... then use the 3 instructions i gave you before to figure out why |
| 16:48:19 | JdGordon | or you breakpoints... "$b <file>:<line>" |
| 16:48:33 | JdGordon | s/$/(gdb) |
| 16:48:54 | vayde | howdy folks. Can anybody tell me if rockbox will handle an ext3 filesystem? |
| 16:49:03 | bluebrother | vayde, it doesn't |
| 16:49:03 | aliask | vayde: It won't. |
| 16:49:12 | bluebrother | you need FAT32 |
| 16:49:52 | vayde | bummer. Oh well. Thanks. |
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| 16:52:04 | oblib | JdGordon, thanks for the help. I still can't see what's making it crash, but at least I can figure it out now |
| 16:52:17 | JdGordon | good luck |
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| 16:53:51 | oblib | If someone has a simluator ready, built off the lastest svn, could you open it and then try to open two playlists in a row? I'd like to know whether this is a bug I introduced or not. |
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| 17:00:10 | oblib | I'm away, I'll be back... |
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| 17:20:41 | JdGordon | :'( i have some code working fine in the unit test... but when i hook it into the rest of the program it crashes |
| 17:21:43 | Domonoky | bad unit test :-) you should not code against the unit -test :-) something will be missing... |
| 17:22:18 | aliask | unit test? |
| 17:22:40 | JdGordon | testing the module seperatly to make sure it works |
| 17:23:05 | aliask | hrm |
| 17:26:33 | JdGordon | missing '\0' :'( |
| 17:26:50 | JdGordon | hmm... no thats not it :'( |
| 17:27:16 | aliask | want an extra pair of eyes on it? |
| 17:28:59 | JdGordon | you dont want to look :p |
| 17:29:01 | JdGordon | its horrible |
| 17:29:11 | * | JdGordon 's cse3301 assignment |
| 17:29:18 | JdGordon | worth 100% of the semester mark! |
| 17:29:24 | aliask | Holy crap |
| 17:29:35 | aliask | What does it do? |
| 17:29:42 | aliask | Or what is it supposed to do? |
| 17:29:56 | JdGordon | en/decode using a dozen different ciphers |
| 17:30:09 | JdGordon | and eventually help the user to crack a simple code |
| 17:30:25 | aliask | Sounds like a lot of maths to me :) |
| 17:31:20 | JdGordon | surprisingly little actually.. |
| 17:31:25 | JdGordon | the ciphers are fairly simple |
| 17:31:36 | * | JdGordon made a working ww2 engima machine! |
| 17:31:59 | aliask | Just iterate over data with a fixed function? |
| 17:32:35 | JdGordon | pretty much |
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| 17:43:55 | JdGordon | w00t ! got it working |
| 17:44:07 | JdGordon | stupid thing was skipping over the \0 if it was after \n :'( |
| 17:44:10 | aliask | Grats! |
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| 17:58:18 | xaiki | hey boys and girls ! |
| 17:59:29 | xaiki | I got an ipod that's not booting into rockbox anymore, and not being reconized by the comp when pluging it in. my friend told me that a guy touched 'something' I guess he must have somehow removed the firmware (ROLO loads but can't boot) you know any way to get the ipod to appear on usb ? |
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| 18:00:05 | spiorf | xaiki, hold select and play while booting |
| 18:03:28 | xaiki | spiorf: it looks like the ipod is not charging even when plugged to an usb ... |
| 18:03:42 | xaiki | and hence I can't reboot it =/ |
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| 18:04:45 | xaiki | (btw I found that keys on the ipodilinux wiki, and it could be usefull to have it in the rockbox ipod doc) |
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| 18:39:23 | Topy44 | hi there |
| 18:39:36 | Topy44 | i just wanted to give some status on my AGC testing: |
| 18:39:53 | Topy44 | i have reactivated AGC (and with it the histogram) on my X5 build |
| 18:40:16 | Topy44 | and tested it both at home and in real live situations, recording live concerts and band rehearsals |
| 18:40:25 | Topy44 | and it is perfectly usable |
| 18:41:04 | Topy44 | true, the steps (1.5db) are a little harsh, but really, they are pretty inaudible |
| 18:41:23 | Topy44 | i recommend eighter permanently reactivating AGC (but leaving it "off" by default) |
| 18:41:33 | Topy44 | or at least make it a menu option in the configure script |
| 18:41:37 | Domonoky | sounds nice, make patch for flyspray and nag the devs to commit it :-) |
| 18:41:38 | Topy44 | btw, the histogram is GREAT |
| 18:41:40 | Topy44 | hehe |
| 18:41:45 | Topy44 | i havent done anything |
| 18:42:03 | Topy44 | i just told the make script to include the AGC |
| 18:42:28 | Topy44 | and did some minor changes to get it work with the current version |
| 18:42:40 | Topy44 | well, meaby i'll do it anyway :) |
| 18:42:55 | Domonoky | make a patch, its easy and the it doesnt get lost.. |
| 18:43:06 | Topy44 | i will |
| 18:43:18 | Topy44 | and once i get some time on my hands i will add some improvements to the AGC |
| 18:43:27 | Domonoky | :-) |
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| 18:52:43 | tHEkIND | Hello |
| 18:53:06 | bluebrother | Domonoky, what do you think about a "manual" tab in rbutil that downloads and opens the manual for the selected device? |
| 18:56:12 | Domonoky | would be nice, either downloading the pdf page, or opening a browser with the html version.. |
| 18:57:30 | bluebrother | embed the pdf viewer into rbutil ;-) |
| 18:57:56 | bluebrother | But I guess this isn't possible −− but how about the html? Can wx render basic html pages? |
| 18:58:33 | Domonoky | html could be possible, will have a look at the possibilitys in wx |
| 18:59:45 | bluebrother | that way a tab could have a link to the pdf and html download and render the manual below |
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| 19:00:10 | bluebrother | don't know how good that would be for reading −− there isn't too much space |
| 19:00:32 | bluebrother | but it could motivate clicking the pdf manual link |
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| 19:00:43 | Domonoky | hm, there is wxHtmlWindow .. |
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| 19:48:58 | Domonoky | why is the manual for h120 named h100 ? |
| 19:49:27 | Domonoky | damn different namings, makes it difficult for rbutil.. |
| 19:52:31 | Domonoky | but integrated manual looks really nice.. |
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| 19:54:56 | Domonoky | now, how to deal with this damn misnaming.. :-/ |
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| 20:19:47 | buleeahn | Is anyone here familiar with installing rockbox using the bootloader of an old ipodlinux install? |
| 20:20:36 | Domonoky | the ipl bootloader needs to be new enough.. so irs probably better to use the rockbox bootloader.. |
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| 20:21:37 | HellDragon | hey |
| 20:21:51 | HellDragon | buleeahn: I never managed to get rockbox and ipodlinux working at the same time |
| 20:21:59 | HellDragon | rockbox kept saying it couldn't find .rockbox |
| 20:22:22 | Domonoky | the rockbox bootloader can also load ipl.. |
| 20:22:32 | HellDragon | :o |
| 20:22:34 | buleeahn | Hrm... |
| 20:22:41 | buleeahn | Well, I may need some advice then... |
| 20:22:44 | HellDragon | i still have ipl on an ext3 partition on my ipod i'll try to boot it |
| 20:22:51 | buleeahn | I've got an old installation of ipodlinux from a while back... |
| 20:23:08 | Domonoky | if anyone wants to rbutil v0.3.2.2, now with integrated manual: domonoky/rbutil-v0.3.2.2.zip">http://b23.org/~domonoky/rbutil-v0.3.2.2.zip |
| 20:23:09 | buleeahn | I tried rockbox on top of that but found the battery life wasn't to my liking... |
| 20:23:16 | Domonoky | + test :-) |
| 20:23:16 | buleeahn | so I just deleted the .rockbox directory. |
| 20:23:25 | HellDragon | batterylife is ok |
| 20:23:33 | buleeahn | Right, it's ok *now*. |
| 20:23:36 | buleeahn | Which is why I'm here. |
| 20:23:41 | buleeahn | I want to try rockbox again. |
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| 20:23:50 | HellDragon | :) |
| 20:23:51 | buleeahn | But I don't want to have to reset my ipod and lose everything onit. |
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| 20:24:04 | buleeahn | So I just want to use the old bootloader from ipodlinux - which still works. |
| 20:24:17 | HellDragon | Loader2 ? |
| 20:24:27 | buleeahn | I think it's an older verison of loader2. |
| 20:24:32 | buleeahn | Which may or may not work. |
| 20:24:33 | Domonoky | but probably the ipl bootloader is too old for rockbox.. |
| 20:24:37 | HellDragon | ah the old one |
| 20:24:43 | HellDragon | i dont think it will work with rockbox |
| 20:24:45 | Domonoky | the it doesnt work ! |
| 20:24:45 | buleeahn | Well it worked with an older version of rockbox... |
| 20:25:01 | buleeahn | so will it work with the latest? |
| 20:25:02 | Domonoky | rockbox evolves fast.. |
| 20:25:37 | HellDragon | yeah |
| 20:25:40 | HellDragon | buleeahn: probably not |
| 20:25:42 | Domonoky | if you install the latest ipl loader, then it should work, but it should be easier to install the rockbox loader ..:-) |
| 20:25:46 | HellDragon | but you could still try |
| 20:25:54 | buleeahn | hrm |
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| 20:26:16 | buleeahn | Cool, thanks guys! |
| 20:26:24 | buleeahn | Now to see if I can install the latest loader without bricking my ipod or losing the existing data on it. |
| 20:26:46 | bluebrother | Domonoky, just ask Bagder to symlink the h100 to the h120 manual ;-) |
| 20:27:09 | HellDragon | buleeahn: if you mess up the bootloader you can still boot into diskmode, backup your stuff, then format it/try to reinstall the bootloader |
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| 20:27:28 | Domonoky | bluebrother: i have now hacked it into rbutil, so it treats the h120 the same as h100 for the manual.. |
| 20:27:45 | bluebrother | it is the same for the manual ;-) |
| 20:27:48 | Domonoky | i will now commit the manual support.. it looks nice :-) |
| 20:27:55 | bluebrother | great |
| 20:28:05 | bluebrother | just wanted to ask how far you got ;-) |
| 20:28:15 | buleeahn | Domonoky: I have no clue what you're talking about. What's rbutil? |
| 20:28:22 | buleeahn | And what's the h120 and h100? |
| 20:28:34 | bluebrother | rockbox utility −− our installer (when it's finished) |
| 20:28:39 | buleeahn | HellDragon: good to know about messing up the bootloader. |
| 20:28:43 | buleeahn | Ah, ok. |
| 20:28:48 | bluebrother | h120 and h100 are targets −− iriver players |
| 20:28:52 | Domonoky | yeah, and h100, h120 are mp3 players |
| 20:28:53 | buleeahn | Ah, ok. |
| 20:29:02 | Domonoky | bluebrother you type to fast :-) |
| 20:29:19 | bluebrother | h100 and h120 differ only slightly, and they are identical regarding their features |
| 20:29:23 | buleeahn | Wow....so I can get my ipod into disk mode *even* if I brick the firmware. I never knew that before. |
| 20:29:26 | bluebrother | so the manual for both of them is identical |
| 20:29:47 | HellDragon | buleeahn: it happened to me 2 days ag |
| 20:29:49 | HellDragon | ago* |
| 20:29:49 | bluebrother | Domonoky, hehe. Learned touch-typing a while ago. It definitely paid off the time ;-) |
| 20:30:00 | Domonoky | :-) |
| 20:30:03 | HellDragon | i messed up my bootloader and it would be stuck at the apple logo |
| 20:30:38 | bluebrother | "a while" already being something like 3 years or so ... |
| 20:30:41 | bluebrother | time flies |
| 20:31:13 | buleeahn | HellDragon: so even though you were stuck at the ipod logo you could still force it into disk mode? |
| 20:31:32 | bluebrother | buleeahn, you can always go into emergency disk mode |
| 20:31:46 | bluebrother | you probably need to reset the ipod first though |
| 20:32:24 | HellDragon | buleeahn: yes, by rebooting it (select+menu) then i hit select+play before i see the apple logo |
| 20:33:24 | bluebrother | Domonoky, looks nice. I just don't see the html because of the proxy issue :( |
| 20:34:02 | Domonoky | bluebrother: there is a possibility to solve this, but i dont know how to test it.. |
| 20:34:21 | bluebrother | I could test it. |
| 20:34:31 | bluebrother | at least, try if it works for me ;-) |
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| 20:36:05 | bluebrother | on linux, reading http_proxy would be nice |
| 20:36:52 | Domonoky | hm.. for the normal downloads wxwidgets provides a function to set a proxy, but for the Html window.. hmm. |
| 20:37:16 | Domonoky | is there a standard way to include the proxy into the URL ? |
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| 20:39:08 | bluebrother | no. |
| 20:43:56 | oblib | any ideas why this would segfault? queue_send (q=0x8196940, id=2, data=1) at kernel.c:185 |
| 20:44:09 | bluebrother | hmm, hard coding the proxy for the download works fine. |
| 20:45:30 | Domonoky | bluebrother: you just put an in_http->setProxy(...) into the DownloadURL function ? |
| 20:45:40 | bluebrother | yes. |
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| 20:46:08 | bluebrother | it segfaulted after installation, but that might be caused by me installing not on a real player. Downloading worked fine at least. |
| 20:46:28 | Domonoky | good to know, i can easly make a menu entry to set this.. |
| 20:46:41 | bluebrother | on windows you could try to use IE5's settings, on linux the environment variable http_proxy |
| 20:47:08 | bluebrother | or use that to pre-fill the options. Would at least be nice for the average user ;) |
| 20:47:11 | Domonoky | i will first make a menü entry, we can extend this later.. |
| 20:47:46 | bluebrother | sure. |
| 20:48:07 | bluebrother | btw, I'd prefer Ctrl-Q as acceleration key for exit −− it's kinda standard on linux |
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| 20:51:35 | oblib | locate kernel.c | grep rockbox |
| 20:51:40 | oblib | sorry... |
| 20:51:45 | oblib | wrong promt |
| 20:52:59 | oblib | How different is kernel.c used in firmware and kernel.c in the simulator? |
| 20:53:22 | Ave | I'm getting a lot of "data aborts" with late cvs builds, is this normal? |
| 20:53:29 | bluebrother | Ave, what player? |
| 20:53:40 | Ave | never had this much crashes with .. well svn actually, builds |
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| 20:53:44 | Ave | ipod nano |
| 20:53:51 | bluebrother | how old is your bootloader? |
| 20:54:02 | Ave | vorbis and mp3 playback crash after ~3 seconds |
| 20:54:17 | Ave | hmm it boots ok, but its probably very old, like year or so |
| 20:54:28 | bluebrother | update the bootloader |
| 20:54:55 | Ave | I'm guessing there is howto on it somewhere in wiki? |
| 20:55:01 | bluebrother | that's wayyy to old. There was an incompatible change a while ago, and using an old bootloader will result in data aborts |
| 20:55:11 | bluebrother | no −− just install the bootloader like explained in the manual |
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| 20:55:27 | Ave | ah ic ok thanks a lot |
| 20:56:16 | bluebrother | the current bootloaders also check the hold key for booting to appleOS now. |
| 20:59:37 | Ave | I think my data cable or connector is broken, it only works sporadically |
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| 21:00:08 | Ave | I lose the disk mode and get lots of [688203.120000] attempt to access beyond end of device |
| 21:00:14 | Ave | [691181.776000] usb 4-3: device descriptor read/64, error -71 |
| 21:00:17 | Ave | meh.. |
| 21:01:04 | Viljar | Why my iPod nano can't play .mpg videos over 12 fps? Wiki says that it should be around 28fps. Any suggestioons? |
| 21:02:58 | bluebrother | correct video size? |
| 21:03:42 | linuxstb | Viljar: How have you encoded them? i.e. what resolution, bitrate, format etc? |
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| 21:06:39 | Viljar | I encode with WinFF.. music videos, as the come, to 4:3, it should be 176x128 then. The settings are default. |
| 21:07:26 | Viljar | I should use some special settings i think? |
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| 21:09:18 | Viljar | linuxstb, do you have any ideas? |
| 21:09:21 | AceNik___ | guys how do i build a rbutil? |
| 21:09:38 | Domonoky | AceNik___ : you need wxWidgets 2.8 |
| 21:10:02 | AceNik___ | i cant build it with the cygwin compiler thin? |
| 21:10:12 | Domonoky | you can.. |
| 21:10:35 | Domonoky | but you need wxWidgets 2.8, which you have to comile your self for cygwin |
| 21:11:00 | AceNik___ | what do i type , & is there a page for downloading cvs ready rbutil |
| 21:11:02 | Domonoky | for linux there is a package ( i thin ubuntu package, but it works also in Debian) |
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| 21:11:54 | Domonoky | AceNik___: read the wxWidgets page for how to get wx in Cygwin.. |
| 21:12:14 | AceNik___ | ya but isnt there a ready utility ? |
| 21:12:25 | AceNik___ | for the current cvs update ? |
| 21:12:57 | Domonoky | we use svn.. and there is a binary for rbutil aviable.. |
| 21:13:12 | Domonoky | newest version: domonoky/rbutil-v0.3.2.2.zip">http://b23.org/~domonoky/rbutil-v0.3.2.2.zip |
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| 21:14:43 | AceNik___ | weill thsi have the latest commit to the rockbox util to it? |
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| 21:14:56 | linuxstb | Viljar: Most problems with video are due to framerates I think - for the Nano you should always keep the same framerate as the original source. I'm not sure how to tell winff to do that though. |
| 21:15:00 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: what did you say happened with the very last core lock thing you tested? the conversation all happened during a logging blackout apparently. iirc something about hanging at the logo? |
| 21:15:37 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: I think the only thing I tried was changing the swpb to swp - and I'm pretty sure that made no difference. |
| 21:16:12 | Domonoky | AceNik___: yes, its build by me, and work on rbutil at moment :-) |
| 21:16:15 | oblib | I'm getting loads of these: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness |
| 21:16:21 | bluebrother | Domonoky, what do you think about this small change? http://www.pastebin.ca/472678 |
| 21:16:26 | oblib | Is that my fault, or did something go weird in the svn? |
| 21:16:40 | Domonoky | oblib: in rbutil ? |
| 21:16:42 | Viljar | linuxstb, well, i can find out the default fps for the source and then tell WinFF to keep it same. Thanks. |
| 21:16:44 | linuxstb | oblib: Which gcc version are you using? |
| 21:17:08 | oblib | Domonoky, rbutil? I don't know what that is. |
| 21:17:15 | Domonoky | bluebrother: good |
| 21:17:37 | oblib | linuxstb, arm-elf |
| 21:17:47 | oblib | the target is nano |
| 21:17:58 | linuxstb | oblib: Which version of arm-elf-gcc? 4.0.3 is the recommended version. |
| 21:18:05 | bluebrother | the wxHtmlWindow issue seems to be rare −− google doesn't help :( |
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| 21:18:27 | Domonoky | jeah, to bad.. |
| 21:19:07 | oblib | linuxstb, what's the easiest way to find that? |
| 21:19:35 | AceNik___ | Domonoky:check my msg |
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| 21:19:58 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: yes, I know that. but you're first experience after charging it. |
| 21:19:59 | oblib | linuxstb, in my bin dir I have arm-elf-gcc and arm-elf-gcc-4.0.3 |
| 21:20:15 | Domonoky | AceNik___: sorry, i dont see any msg, you need to register ? |
| 21:20:26 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: Yes, it just froze at the logo |
| 21:20:36 | jhMikeS | bam |
| 21:20:44 | AceNik___ | Domonoky:cant you recieve a pvt window? |
| 21:20:50 | bluebrother | I was wondering if there is a way to set a default proxy −− like with SetDefaultProxy(), but that doesn't seem to have any effect for HtmlWindow :( |
| 21:21:11 | jhMikeS | sansa does that if interrupts are disabled outright, I think I know what's going on |
| 21:21:27 | linuxstb | oblib: What does "arm-elf-gcc −−version" display? |
| 21:21:48 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: The general misbehaviour of the PP5020 does seem related to interrupts... |
| 21:21:51 | oblib | arm-elf-gcc (GCC) 4.0.3 |
| 21:22:07 | linuxstb | oblib: And you're compiling plain SVN Rockbox, or you've patched it? |
| 21:22:22 | oblib | linuxstb, several patches |
| 21:22:31 | jhMikeS | well, if you get a chance, remove the core sleep in thread.c, and just put a udelay(100) or something and test the last patch |
| 21:22:31 | Domonoky | bluebrother: SetDefaultProxy works only on this URL object, unfortuanlyl wxHtmlWindow uses its own URL object internally.. :-/ |
| 21:22:38 | linuxstb | oblib: Can you tell if the errors are in the patched code? |
| 21:22:53 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: OK, I can try that now. |
| 21:22:55 | oblib | linuxstb, no, they are all over |
| 21:23:28 | linuxstb | oblib: Then I can't explain them - no-one else gets them... |
| 21:23:45 | linuxstb | Rockbox compiles warning-free. |
| 21:23:56 | linuxstb | (apart from the single #warning...) |
| 21:24:04 | Domonoky | AceNik___: join #rockbox-dom we can use this channel instead of messages.. :-) |
| 21:24:04 | oblib | yeah it did for me until just recently |
| 21:24:35 | Viljar | linuxstb: is the performance influenced by free space on ipod? |
| 21:25:43 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: Do you mean replace both CPU_CTL = PROC_SLEEP; and COP_CTL = PROC_SLEEP; by a short udelay() in sleep_core() ? |
| 21:26:27 | linuxstb | Viljar: It shouldn't make much difference, especially on the Nano. |
| 21:27:37 | Viljar | Video, with defaul framerate (29.x), DislayFPS on, LimidFPS on and Skip frames on gives me 12.x fps on rockbox |
| 21:28:16 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: yes, to keep the cores awake |
| 21:28:32 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: Compiling now... |
| 21:29:04 | linuxstb | Viljar: That almost sounds as if mpegplayer isn't using the second CPU core on your Nano. Either that, or you've encoded with an extremely high bitrate. |
| 21:29:33 | jhMikeS | it's just the fact that it booted and ran with the version that always fiddled with irq level |
| 21:29:53 | Viljar | linuxstb: bitrate is ~350 |
| 21:30:18 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: It booted... Now to test some things. |
| 21:31:11 | jhMikeS | :D ... well, this ain't a real solution but a call to set the reg correctly |
| 21:32:06 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: Hmm.. I started and stopped mpegplayer a few times, and it worked. But now mpegplayer is failing to respond to any keypresses. |
| 21:32:27 | linuxstb | And the FPS is being shown as 0.0 |
| 21:32:45 | linuxstb | It seems to be playing video but no audio. |
| 21:33:03 | jhMikeS | that's progres...it means the irqs got disabled on the main core |
| 21:33:14 | Viljar | linuxstb: I'm going to try to encode with VLC, what bitrate i should use for video? |
| 21:33:57 | jhMikeS | that's what happened on sansa till I fixed the irq level setting in the second version, so right on track |
| 21:34:48 | linuxstb | Viljar: About 300kbps should be OK I think. Are you also encoding with 44.1KHz audio? |
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| 21:35:50 | Viljar | linuxstb: Yes. |
| 21:36:31 | jhMikeS | that means a race condition exists in remembering oldlevel, there's probabaly a tie up with the two cores and cpsr |
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| 21:39:15 | testdasi | hello |
| 21:39:25 | testdasi | is there anyone there? |
| 21:39:39 | Viljar | testdasi: Hey |
| 21:40:01 | jhMikeS | there's obviously no tie up on 5021 and after...so, something has to change in a register setting or the way things are handles on that |
| 21:41:47 | testdasi | I'll keep it short. I am trying to write a patch to recalibrate the battery readings for Sansa e200 based on the new battery test data. However, I am completely puzzled by "battery_status_update" function (which I believe would return a time value for battery level). |
| 21:42:04 | testdasi | I posted my questions at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10299.0 |
| 21:43:00 | testdasi | If anyone has some clues, please help me. I basically don't know how the function turns battery percentage level into time. Thank you very much. |
| 21:44:10 | oblib | linuxstb, the warning seems valid. For example, iso_decode() is declared in plugin.h with the following first two parameters: const unsigned char *iso, unsigned char *utf8,. When called in playlist.c, it passes char arrays that are not declared unsigned |
| 21:44:46 | Viljar | linuxstb: Encoded with VLC with 300kbits/sec bitrate, 176x128, 128kbits/sec, 44.1KHz - result 9.9FPS |
| 21:44:57 | oblib | linuxstb, thus the warning "pointer targets in passing argument 1 differ in signedness" seems to make sense |
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| 21:46:57 | kkurbjun | who's familiar with adding new settings to rockbox? I need to add a new option under Settings->General Settings->Display for the gigabeat buttonlights, but I'm not sure which files need to be edited or where the changes should be placed. |
| 21:47:40 | markun | kkurbjun: can you come to #gigabeat? |
| 21:48:05 | markun | sorry, you are already there :) |
| 21:48:14 | kkurbjun | no worries |
| 21:48:55 | cyphatron | my ipod nano can only get to the battery charge screen when i connect it to the computer. and when i try to boot it up without the usb cable i get a battery image that i guess means theres low battery. should i throw it out my window or is it worth bothering fixing this shit? :) |
| 21:49:04 | linuxstb | Viljar: Which bootloader are you using to load Rockbox? |
| 21:49:16 | Viljar | linuxstb: Loader 2.4 |
| 21:49:18 | testdasi | I believe there must be a max time constant or variable defined somewhere for each type of battery. Then we just get the battery % multiply by the max time to get the remaining time. However, looking through the code, I can't pinpoint where this max time value is stored. I am also clueless about what does the "runcurrent" and its effect on time. |
| 21:49:49 | linuxstb | Viljar: That could be your problem then. Does music play in Rockbox? |
| 21:50:02 | Viljar | linuxstb: It plays well |
| 21:51:03 | linuxstb | Viljar: v2.4 of the ipodlinux loader doesn't start Rockbox correctly for COP (coprocessor) usage. I'm surprised music plays, but it sounds like mpegplayer is only using a single core. |
| 21:51:15 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: so it was definitely version 3 with the system queue you tested? it's behaving like version 1 did for reasons cited. |
| 21:51:21 | linuxstb | Viljar: Try upgrading to either the Rockbox bootloader, or the very latest ipodloader version |
| 21:52:05 | Viljar | linuxstb: You mean ipodloader 2.5 right? |
| 21:52:21 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: The md5sum of the patch I'm using is d8e101754a81277005bef9010b3959f5 |
| 21:52:53 | linuxstb | Viljar: If that's the latest, then yes. Anything newer than around January 2007. |
| 21:53:01 | Viljar | linuxstb: It plays well |
| 21:53:06 | Viljar | fck |
| 21:53:21 | Viljar | linuxstb: I'll try it then, thanks for help |
| 21:54:57 | cyphatron | when at the battery charge screen, is it possible to load rockbox by some command? |
| 21:55:44 | linuxstb | oblib: That does sound wrong... But looking at the Makefile (in my ipod build directory), -Wno-pointer-sign is included, which I assume should suppress those warnings. |
| 21:56:01 | jhMikeS | bugger, I did more changes and then overwrote it and removed it to do other work :\ |
| 21:56:15 | linuxstb | cyphatron: The battery charge screen is in Apple's bootloader in flash ROM. That's before Rockbox is started. |
| 21:56:18 | Soap | grr: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5900#comment14993 |
| 21:56:41 | linuxstb | cyphatron: Just keep charging, and keep trying to reset (hold MENU+SELECT for up to 30 seconds) |
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| 21:57:00 | oblib | linuxstb, hmm doesn't seem to be in mine. what line is it on in your Makefile? |
| 21:57:02 | bluebrother | Soap: maybe we should reject much more patches ... |
| 21:57:11 | Viljar | linuxstb: Will i lose my iPL installation with installing newer loader? |
| 21:57:33 | cyphatron | k, but this battery screen i see when i connect it doesnt look like the apple one |
| 21:57:33 | Soap | one "sync please" is bad enough. Three in a row is pathetic. You'd think some of these patches were oxyegen. |
| 21:57:34 | cyphatron | linuxstb, thanks... will give it a shot |
| 21:57:59 | oblib | linuxstb, I'm guessing line 58? |
| 21:58:01 | bluebrother | right ... I think I'm now on the reject patches line |
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| 21:59:05 | linuxstb | oblib: Yes. |
| 21:59:21 | oblib | linuxstb, I added it and now I don't get the warnings. Any idea why it would configure without that flag? |
| 21:59:26 | linuxstb | Soap: What's the problem? Just ignore it... |
| 21:59:47 | Soap | true enough |
| 22:00 |
| 22:00:11 | * | jhMikeS wonder if anyone with a 5020 based device is interested in actually tracking down some things and setting it up correctly since the issue is not "seems to be" but definitely is IRQ related. |
| 22:00:27 | linuxstb | oblib: Looking at tools/configure, it's only added for gcc > v4.0 - did you perhaps run configure when you had an earlier gcc installed? |
| 22:00:54 | oblib | linuxstb, oh, I think I ran it without the arm gcc in the path. That'd explain it. |
| 22:01:13 | oblib | linuxstb, thanks. |
| 22:01:30 | oblib | Now I just need to figure out why my filelist icons went away |
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| 22:02:41 | TrueJournals | jhMikeS: Would this person need to know about coding? |
| 22:02:46 | the_eye | hmm am I seeing this correctly, there is only a windows-version of the rockbox firmware patcher for iRiver devices? no Linux-support _at_ _all_? |
| 22:03:00 | jhMikeS | TrueJournals: for sure |
| 22:03:07 | linuxstb | the_eye: Yes, we all hate Linux... |
| 22:03:10 | TrueJournals | not I then :-\ |
| 22:03:45 | Bagder | svn/build master server planned 10 hour down time starts in two hours |
| 22:03:49 | linuxstb | the_eye: There are three ways to patch on Linux - 1) Use fwpatcher with Wine; 2) Use Rockbox Utility (see the RockboxUtility wiki page); 3) Use the mkboot utility (see the IriverBoot wiki page) |
| 22:03:52 | jhMikeS | we can all have dual core on pp if this little nasty thing is worked out |
| 22:04:10 | bluebrother | hmm, do we have fwpatcher integration in rbutil? |
| 22:04:23 | the_eye | linuxstb: ah thanks .. a link to that from the iriver-related manual would be very cool ... |
| 22:04:26 | linuxstb | bluebrother: I think it's been there for a while now. I've never tried it though. |
| 22:04:35 | bluebrother | would also be a chance of creating a command line fwpatcher |
| 22:04:54 | linuxstb | bluebrother: There's no real need - mkboot does the same thing. |
| 22:05:47 | bluebrother | the_eye, that need will hopefully be superfluous once rbutil is finished. But yes, it could be mentioned. |
| 22:05:53 | bluebrother | linuxstb, wasn't aware of that :) |
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| 22:06:35 | buleeahn | I just installed rockbox onto my ipod after a long stint of being away from rockbox. |
| 22:06:49 | buleeahn | What's the best way to make the fonts bigger and more readable? A theme and the fonts release? |
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| 22:07:25 | linuxstb | buleeahn: Settings -> Browse Themes and choose a theme using a larger font. |
| 22:07:41 | bluebrother | choose a theme with a larger font. iCatcher for example |
| 22:07:56 | buleeahn | Cool. |
| 22:07:57 | buleeahn | Thanks. |
| 22:08:24 | buleeahn | The downloadable font *.bmp files just get dropped into the themes directory it looks. This right? |
| 22:08:27 | bluebrother | buleeahn, have you updated your bootloader as well? If not you might experience data aborts. |
| 22:08:47 | bluebrother | font bmp? Fonts have the extension fnt |
| 22:08:51 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: If you can point me in the right direction (I'm completely unfamiliar with the Rockbox kernel), then I'll try and debug things. |
| 22:08:53 | the_eye | linuxstb: hmm and where would I find this "tools"-directory the wiki speaketh of? |
| 22:09:03 | linuxstb | the_eye: In the Rockbox source code. |
| 22:09:25 | linuxstb | the_eye: Which you can get via SVN (see UsingSVN) or from the Current Builds download page. |
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| 22:10:33 | the_eye | linuxstb: 'ta muchly |
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| 22:13:51 | buleeahn | Yes, I updated the bootloader. It seems to be working fine. |
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| 22:14:53 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: right now I'm just searching for where this stuff is setup |
| 22:17:04 | the_eye | linuxstb: and now how do I just build the tools to run on my computer and not the bootloader and everything? that (expectedly) breaks because I don't have a compiler for the target-platform .. |
| 22:17:55 | linuxstb | the_eye: Yes, you just need to compile the tools - it's not recommended to compile your own bootloader anyway, even if you could. (I didn't) |
| 22:18:24 | buleeahn | bluebrother: When I was talking about bmp files I meant to say icons, not fonts, my bad. |
| 22:18:36 | buleeahn | But the icons just get dropped in the icons directory, plain and simple? |
| 22:18:50 | bluebrother | ah. yes, that's how it's supposed to work ;-) |
| 22:18:59 | the_eye | linuxstb: exactly .. but how do I do that? I can't seem to find the correct option in that configure-dialogue .. |
| 22:19:01 | bluebrother | you also need a cfg file to load the icons |
| 22:19:41 | buleeahn | Shesh, I found the directions to load the themes. |
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| 22:20:06 | bluebrother | the_eye, cd tools && make mkboot scramble should do it |
| 22:20:24 | the_eye | ah .. without the whole configure thingamajig |
| 22:21:12 | the_eye | _that_ worked |
| 22:21:18 | jhMikeS | I find it interesting that CPU_INT_EN is just = in two places and not |= |
| 22:21:45 | Viljar | linuxstb: Thank you SOO much!! It works well now. 24fps :) THANKS! |
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| 22:22:54 | jhMikeS | and not with the same value hrm |
| 22:23:56 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: That does seem odd... |
| 22:24:21 | jhMikeS | this only happens in button-clickwheel.c |
| 22:24:40 | jhMikeS | my guess it's wrong, but that's a guess |
| 22:24:44 | Domonoky | bluebrother: you can now enter a proxy in rbutil in svn :-) |
| 22:24:54 | bluebrother | great :D |
| 22:26:57 | linuxstb | Domonoky: Stop changing rbutil - you don't give me chance to build any binaries... :) |
| 22:27:12 | Domonoky | :-) |
| 22:27:24 | * | Bagder waits for people to ask for weird auth support for the proxíes ;-) |
| 22:27:49 | Bagder | weird == ntlm |
| 22:28:09 | * | Domonoky waits for people with proxy to claim the html manual view is not working.. :-) |
| 22:28:23 | Bagder | ;-) |
| 22:28:35 | * | bluebrother notices Domonoky added the small not found info to the html view |
| 22:28:45 | oblib | My icons stopped working (the pictures next to menu options). What could I have done to make them go away? The setting is currently on as far as I can tell. |
| 22:28:56 | Domonoky | yes, stolen form bluebrother :-) |
| 22:29:53 | bluebrother | hmm. It doesn't want to play nicely with my mini :o |
| 22:29:55 | jhMikeS | well, the button init comes after so maybe CPU_INT_EN |= 0x40000000 would be right |
| 22:30:05 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: Looking at the code, I would expect the timer1 interrupt to be disabled by the clickwheel code. But that obviously isn't happening... |
| 22:30:34 | oblib | I should specify that I'm building my own code, and the simulation does have icons still |
| 22:30:45 | bluebrother | hmm. "Something seriously odd has happened" :( |
| 22:30:55 | Domonoky | bluebrother: stop mentioning any problems with rbutil, linuxstb doesnt like new versions :-) |
| 22:31:07 | linuxstb | Domonoky: It's OK, I've just given up building binaries... |
| 22:31:12 | bluebrother | sorry for that |
| 22:31:19 | bluebrother | it's just ... *g* |
| 22:31:33 | Domonoky | it really say this message ? |
| 22:31:41 | jhMikeS | guess: it's not happening because the audio thread is constantly timing out and changing the register |
| 22:31:51 | jhMikeS | cpsr, that is |
| 22:32:22 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: So I should try changing them to |= and re-enable the sleep? |
| 22:32:24 | jhMikeS | is my patch, it ceases that |
| 22:32:29 | jhMikeS | why not? |
| 22:32:34 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: Indeed... |
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| 22:34:44 | bluebrother | yes, it really says this message. |
| 22:35:00 | bluebrother | theme preview doesn't seem to know about the proxy |
| 22:36:29 | the_eye | linuxstb: hmm what if the .hex I made via mkboot doesn't match the checksums given on the wiki-page? |
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| 22:37:49 | obo | Bagder: will the IP of the build server change? |
| 22:37:55 | bluebrother | the_eye, I believe you need to run unscramble on that hex file first |
| 22:38:10 | bluebrother | and re-scramble it afterwards. |
| 22:38:19 | Bagder | obo: nope, just its physical location |
| 22:38:42 | obo | okay, thanks |
| 22:38:45 | bluebrother | haven't tried myself, though |
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| 22:39:57 | Domonoky | bluebrother: for the strange message, somehow you did manage to not set a build type.. strange |
| 22:40:48 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: It booted and seems happy... |
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| 22:41:46 | the_eye | bluebrother: false alarm .. tried it again and now the checksum is correct |
| 22:42:00 | Domonoky | bluebrother: and the theme window should also use the proxy, it uses the same download function, but perhaps wx has problems with this.. ( reguesting a php file) |
| 22:42:30 | bluebrother | possibly −− I was just digging through the code |
| 22:42:50 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: hehe...I'm psyched |
| 22:43:53 | Domonoky | mini1g and mini2g also share the manual ? |
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| 22:44:15 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: Me too... I don't understand what you were saying about the audio thread timing out though and how that could affect the PP interrupt registers. |
| 22:45:13 | linuxstb | Domonoky: Yes - just to annoy you. |
| 22:45:16 | jhMikeS | bacause it enters queue_wait_w_tmo which enables/disables interrupts |
| 22:45:38 | jhMikeS | it does this all the time...it's never put in plain old queue_wait |
| 22:45:54 | Domonoky | :-) |
| 22:46:10 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 22:46:28 | Domonoky | another hack for rbutil.. there are so many different names for the same thing.. its annoying.. :-) |
| 22:47:04 | jhMikeS | my patch puts in a system queue which makes normal queues no longer have to deal with locking out interrupts |
| 22:48:00 | bluebrother | linuxstb, I get a "implicit declaration of lseek64" warning when building sansapatcher |
| 22:48:04 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: OK. I'll test this build for a while and see how it goes... |
| 22:48:10 | bluebrother | this change seems to fix it: http://pastebin.ca/472821 |
| 22:48:25 | jhMikeS | this makes the scheduler never get touched by them, which resolves the double entry problem |
| 22:48:55 | bluebrother | looks like _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE needs to be defined before the includes |
| 22:49:02 | linuxstb | bluebrother: I thought that flag set in the Makefile? |
| 22:49:11 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: so, you tried running mpegplayer already? |
| 22:49:19 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: Yes, I couldn't crash it... |
| 22:49:29 | bluebrother | hmm. Right, but why do I get this warning? |
| 22:49:33 | jhMikeS | so we got whipped it |
| 22:49:52 | jhMikeS | we whipped it even :P |
| 22:49:59 | bluebrother | ah −− seems like this is missing in the rbutil Makefile |
| 22:50:59 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: Let's hope so. |
| 22:51:10 | bluebrother | ok, that was it. Thanks. |
| 22:51:25 | jhMikeS | my experiece was if there's even one minor error, mpegplayer doesn't last long |
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| 22:57:55 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: don't forget to mash a lot of buttons when playing videos :) that'll blast the system queue with lots of traffic |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:15 | jhMikeS | It looks like CPU_INT_EN is just assigned in several spots |
| 23:01:34 | linuxstb | I found it in kernel.c and button-clickwheel.c |
| 23:01:47 | linuxstb | Ah, and timer.c... |
| 23:01:51 | jhMikeS | button-mini1g.c too |
| 23:02:06 | jhMikeS | timer.c is ok, since that's the kernel init |
| 23:02:29 | linuxstb | Isn't it the user timer init - so it can be called at any time? |
| 23:03:28 | jhMikeS | no, that's just start the tick tasks at startup |
| 23:04:01 | jhMikeS | they probabaly should all be |= x and &= ~x since it starts out masked anyway |
| 23:05:15 | jhMikeS | pcm-pp.c ... bah, no wonder the sansa problem changes ... |
| 23:05:24 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: Are you sure? It's enabling TIMER2, which I thought was the user timer on PP. tick_start() in kernel.c uses TIMER1 |
| 23:05:42 | jhMikeS | TIMER2 is the user timer |
| 23:06:38 | linuxstb | Yes, so that needs |= ? |
| 23:07:04 | jhMikeS | kernel_init calls tick_start |
| 23:07:19 | jhMikeS | but I think that's the first setting since the kernel is where it first happens |
| 23:07:52 | jhMikeS | |= should be ok anyway since I think it's 0 from the bootloader |
| 23:08:17 | * | jhMikeS want's to test sansa audio with all this cleared up |
| 23:08:23 | linuxstb | Yes, but you said that "timer.c is ok because that's the kernel init" ? |
| 23:09:07 | jhMikeS | oh, no...I meant kernel.c :P |
| 23:09:16 | linuxstb | OK, we agree then :) |
| 23:10:09 | jhMikeS | otherwise, this is all not right and no wonder these things are having trouble |
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| 23:13:08 | MikeF | yo |
| 23:13:10 | MikeF | is anyone |
| 23:13:11 | MikeF | here |
| 23:13:47 | Bagder | MikeF: your irc client probably showed you about 140 nicks |
| 23:13:58 | MikeF | yeh |
| 23:13:59 | MikeF | i mean |
| 23:14:00 | MikeF | activ |
| 23:14:06 | MikeF | activee |
| 23:14:17 | MikeF | rofl...i cant spell right now |
| 23:14:31 | MikeF | ok is anyone here active who can answer a question i haave about rockbox |
| 23:14:34 | MikeF | have |
| 23:14:40 | Bagder | just ask |
| 23:14:44 | MikeF | yeah |
| 23:14:50 | MikeF | well i have a sansa e-260 |
| 23:14:51 | Bagder | and you'll find out |
| 23:14:54 | MikeF | and im using rockbox |
| 23:14:57 | linuxstb | MikeF: And please write more than one word on a line.... |
| 23:15:03 | jhMikeS | you should wear a condom when being active :) |
| 23:15:21 | MikeF | and that player has a fm radio, and a recorder, both which i cant use in rockbox. |
| 23:15:37 | MikeF | and by active, i mean around, sitting at there compyter, not afk |
| 23:15:42 | MikeF | computer* |
| 23:16:04 | linuxstb | MikeF: Is your question "When will Rockbox support radio and recording on the Sansa?" ? |
| 23:16:09 | MikeF | yes |
| 23:16:09 | jhMikeS | just kidding around...haha? |
| 23:16:11 | MikeF | or does it |
| 23:16:42 | MikeF | yes when will it, or does it, if it does, what am i doing rong? |
| 23:16:47 | linuxstb | MikeF: It doesn't yet, and will happen when somebody does it. Everyone works on Rockbox as a hobby in their spare time. |
| 23:16:53 | MikeF | ah |
| 23:18:03 | preglow | have we got any docs on the radio part? |
| 23:18:21 | MikeF | what kind of docs |
| 23:18:28 | preglow | programming specifications |
| 23:18:31 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/tuner_interface.txt |
| 23:18:32 | MikeF | ah |
| 23:18:34 | MikeF | no I don't |
| 23:18:37 | MikeF | I don't program |
| 23:18:42 | MikeF | not in rockbox anyway |
| 23:18:44 | preglow | that mrh... |
| 23:18:51 | Bagder | yeps |
| 23:19:13 | preglow | that looks fairly complete to me... |
| 23:19:19 | preglow | so, someone just get me a sansa! |
| 23:19:43 | Bagder | I sent one to dan_a as he was about to poke on the fm stuff |
| 23:19:51 | linuxstb | preglow: One portalplayer device isn't enough for you? |
| 23:19:59 | preglow | linuxstb: i suddenly wanted one with radio :P |
| 23:20:11 | MikeF | lol |
| 23:20:14 | preglow | also, i'm a masochist |
| 23:20:27 | MikeF | well I hope it gets added soon, since I'm blind and i use the .voice files |
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| 23:20:40 | MikeF | so thats the only way to access the radio at all cant use the orriginal firmware |
| 23:20:52 | MikeF | and recording |
| 23:20:59 | preglow | well, if dan_a said he'd poke on it, i expect something will come of it |
| 23:21:04 | preglow | haven't seen him much lately, though |
| 23:21:11 | MikeF | ah |
| 23:21:12 | Bagder | apparently he's been ill |
| 23:21:17 | preglow | oh, is that so |
| 23:21:33 | MikeF | so should I just download the new daily build every once in a while? |
| 23:21:46 | preglow | MikeF: not the worst of ideas anyway |
| 23:21:51 | preglow | perhaps follow the commit logs |
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| 23:22:09 | SaLoMoN | mh |
| 23:22:13 | linuxstb | MikeF: This page is also useful - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MajorChanges |
| 23:22:23 | SaLoMoN | the eurpoean sansa has no radio support at all? |
| 23:22:29 | Bagder | nope |
| 23:22:37 | preglow | what? |
| 23:22:40 | preglow | that's lousy |
| 23:22:48 | Bagder | you need a US model sansa for radio |
| 23:22:48 | linuxstb | I think it's cheaper to import from the US anyway. |
| 23:23:07 | preglow | hrmr, i have a sudden craving for a new target |
| 23:23:09 | Bagder | or an R model... but then rockbox doesn't run on the R |
| 23:23:09 | SaLoMoN | i have the european one... |
| 23:23:16 | preglow | but NOT buying a gigabeat sounds kind of silly :P |
| 23:23:31 | markun | ;) |
| 23:23:33 | Bagder | preglow: gigabeat has no radio! ;-) |
| 23:23:34 | MikeF | have the US one |
| 23:23:35 | linuxstb | preglow: You could join markun in the hunt for a nice blackfin DAP... |
| 23:23:44 | SaLoMoN | mhmh |
| 23:23:48 | SaLoMoN | oh |
| 23:23:51 | preglow | i'd rather have a sharc based dap |
| 23:23:52 | markun | I'm starting to think they don't exist.. |
| 23:23:55 | preglow | but i suspect those don't exist |
| 23:23:57 | SaLoMoN | rockbox is stable for sansa now?^^ |
| 23:24:00 | MikeF | nah |
| 23:24:02 | SaLoMoN | i should upgrade |
| 23:24:06 | MikeF | no release version i dont think |
| 23:24:09 | preglow | stable and stable... |
| 23:24:10 | markun | preglow: sharc is even nicer? |
| 23:24:17 | MikeF | daily build works fine for me |
| 23:24:20 | SaLoMoN | ah okay |
| 23:24:26 | preglow | markun: it's more like a traditional dsp platform |
| 23:24:30 | SaLoMoN | i thought because its on the mainpage |
| 23:24:32 | preglow | markun: as a matter of fact, it's a pure dsp, heh |
| 23:24:34 | * | jhMikeS thinks it should be more so in a few minutes |
| 23:24:40 | preglow | markun: does both fixed point and floating point |
| 23:25:00 | preglow | but don't expect to find it in a dap |
| 23:25:05 | Bagder | SaLoMoN: sansa is "supported" in the way that it runs Rockbox and we provide packages for it, binaries and manuals etc |
| 23:25:20 | Bagder | in the same way we do for ~20 other players |
| 23:25:54 | markun | preglow: so blackfin would be the next best thing? :) |
| 23:25:59 | preglow | linuxstb: it'd have to be pretty cheap to be cheaper to import from the us, at least from here. an import fee of around 20$ plus 25% of the retail price will be added :/ |
| 23:26:11 | SaLoMoN | but f.e. usb still doenst work^^ |
| 23:26:24 | markun | preglow: or do you really want to use floating point for a change? |
| 23:26:30 | preglow | markun: sweet lord, yes |
| 23:26:35 | Bagder | SaLoMoN: there are several things that still don't work, yes |
| 23:26:44 | markun | the i.mx31 in the zune and Gigabeat S can do floating point vector operations |
| 23:26:46 | SaLoMoN | but the most important thing works |
| 23:26:50 | SaLoMoN | mussiic |
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| 23:26:54 | SaLoMoN | do videos work? |
| 23:26:58 | preglow | markun: which is why i'm hoping they'll be cracked soon |
| 23:27:43 | markun | I don't know.. buying a Zune just doesn't feel right to me |
| 23:27:59 | linuxstb | preglow: I looked at the E280 a couple of months ago, and it was a lot cheaper in the US. I'm not sure what the current status it. |
| 23:28:19 | SaLoMoN | I payed 90€ for my sansa e250.. |
| 23:28:38 | SaLoMoN | last december |
| 23:28:43 | Bagder | the e280 is available for like less than 160USD in the US |
| 23:28:52 | preglow | and with the current dollar rate |
| 23:29:29 | preglow | bah, i can't justify even that amount for something i've already practically got in a nano, though |
| 23:30:04 | linuxstb | preglow: More storage, FM radio.... :) |
| 23:30:20 | Bagder | and a glowing wheel! |
| 23:30:21 | linuxstb | A wheel with lights on... |
| 23:30:23 | linuxstb | :) |
| 23:30:23 | preglow | it does sd cards too, yes? |
| 23:30:28 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:30:29 | Bagder | microsd |
| 23:30:33 | preglow | so it is kind of nifty |
| 23:30:33 | preglow | haha |
| 23:31:05 | markun | if you want a player with an sdslot, I know an evil chinese blackfin powered dap :) |
| 23:31:10 | preglow | hahaha |
| 23:31:11 | preglow | evil? |
| 23:31:13 | Bagder | hahaha |
| 23:31:52 | markun | well, they mix gpl, with closed source stuff (wmv code) and things with other licenses (mame I think and snes9x) |
| 23:31:56 | preglow | how nice |
| 23:32:10 | markun | look for Ainol V1000 |
| 23:33:19 | linuxstb | markun: It's cheap though - only 50UKP |
| 23:33:33 | preglow | how's battery time on sansas compared to retailso? |
| 23:33:35 | linuxstb | (including shipping from Hong Kong) |
| 23:33:42 | markun | yes, that's true |
| 23:33:54 | markun | but only 1GB internal |
| 23:34:04 | markun | maybe I'll buy one after all |
| 23:34:32 | linuxstb | Ah yes, 1GB + a 1GB SD card. |
| 23:35:02 | markun | is the SD card included? |
| 23:35:11 | linuxstb | It seems to be - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ainol-V1000-2GB-MP3-MP4-Video-Game-Player-Birthday-Gift_W0QQitemZ260114850434QQihZ016QQcategoryZ73839QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 23:35:19 | Bagder | full size SD? |
| 23:35:43 | Bagder | ah no micro |
| 23:35:56 | preglow | arhghg |
| 23:36:01 | preglow | sometimes it's bloody hard to find a page in the wiki |
| 23:36:33 | Bagder | "We cannot send item to Italy. We do not accept buyers from Italy." ;-) |
| 23:36:53 | linuxstb | Bagder: I noticed that - I wonder what Italy did to upset them... |
| 23:37:03 | Bagder | yeah, the whole world except for italy... |
| 23:37:29 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: system-pp502x.c, line 166 .. the comment :) |
| 23:38:05 | preglow | and no one has come up with any theories as to why portalplayer sucks so much power while i haven't been paying attention? :/ |
| 23:38:11 | preglow | i'd really, really like to fix that issue now |
| 23:38:33 | jhMikeS | maybe cause interrupts were screwed up? |
| 23:38:40 | preglow | were? |
| 23:38:42 | Bagder | preglow: I have high hopes on Toni's emulator |
| 23:38:57 | preglow | Bagder: it's already aided me a couple of times |
| 23:39:17 | jhMikeS | well, I'm fixing all the "CPU_INT_STAT =" that should be "CPU_INT_STAT |=" |
| 23:39:40 | jhMikeS | CPU_IN_EN rather...whatever |
| 23:40:00 | preglow | i doubt that alone can suck several hours of juice out of it |
| 23:40:26 | perldiver | could anyone please explain what KBD_CURSOR_KEYS and KBD_MODES are? |
| 23:40:30 | Bagder | http://stores.ebay.co.uk/tradeeasy1201 seems to be a good source for weird cheapo chinese dap clones |
| 23:40:36 | jhMikeS | I'm suprised this stuff kept running at all frankly |
| 23:41:18 | jhMikeS | perldiver: KBD_CURSOR_KEYS uses buttons to move the cursor on the input line. KBD_MODES is the ability to select the edit line. |
| 23:41:45 | perldiver | but what was the problem with them on gigabeat? |
| 23:42:07 | jhMikeS | Only KBD_MORSE_INPUT was enabled |
| 23:42:37 | jhMikeS | Not defining KBD_MODE makes KBD_CURSOR_KEYS the default, but I like having the line edit too |
| 23:42:49 | jhMikeS | Defining both lets you have both ways |
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| 23:43:33 | perldiver | but the ability of moving the cursor and editing the line were present before |
| 23:44:40 | jhMikeS | no, it wasn't. I couldn't select the line itself before since the was no KBD_MODES defined |
| 23:44:47 | ender` | Bagder: are you in need of any more build servers? |
| 23:44:56 | Bagder | the more the merrier! |
| 23:44:58 | jhMikeS | defining KBD_MODE and not KBD_CURSOR_KEYS only enables line edit by selection |
| 23:45:05 | perldiver | jhMikeS aha |
| 23:45:08 | Bagder | ender`: if you have a fast one, certainly |
| 23:45:16 | ender` | Core2 Duo E4400 |
| 23:45:28 | Bagder | that's fast enough! |
| 23:45:30 | preglow | qualifies! |
| 23:45:45 | perldiver | jhMikeS thanks, i got it now |
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| 23:46:23 | Bagder | ender`: as you might've noticed the build server moves in ... 15 minutes, so if you just get things sorted in your end we can have it added tomorrow or so |
| 23:46:50 | ender` | i think i have everything ready |
| 23:47:06 | Bagder | do you have the public key for rbclient? |
| 23:47:17 | ender` | not yet |
| 23:47:32 | Bagder | I'll PM it to you |
| 23:47:38 | ender` | oh, does it matter that my ssh is running on a non-standard port? |
| 23:48:26 | Bagder | nope, the script can deal with that fine |
| 23:48:31 | ender` | ok |
| 23:49:13 | ender` | where do i get the script? |
| 23:49:39 | Bagder | hang on |
| 23:50:00 | markun | Bagder: he also sells the Meizu 8GB player, not bad |
| 23:50:19 | Bagder | yeah, he seemed to have loads |
| 23:50:24 | ender` | oh, and what IPs can i expect the connections from (or are they dynamic)? |
| 23:50:43 | Bagder | ender`: they only come from build.rockbox.org |
| 23:50:45 | Bagder | fixed |
| 23:50:48 | ender` | ok |
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| 23:51:10 | Bagder | this is the acbuild.pl script => http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/acbuild.txt |
| 23:51:32 | Bagder | put it in rbclient's home dir with the name acbuild.pl with +x flag for rbclient |
| 23:51:58 | Bagder | you might need/want to edit the path and make -j option |
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| 23:53:02 | jhMikeS | it would seem the evaluation of the operation of the interrupt bits isn't quite right :\ |
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| 23:55:21 | ender` | PATH is needed just for the compilers? (gentoo puts them all in /usr/bin) |
| 23:55:29 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:55:53 | ender` | ok, no need to modify the path then |
| 23:56:06 | Bagder | gentoo... then you don't have the sh compiler I take it? |
| 23:56:37 | preglow | jhMikeS: how? |
| 23:56:47 | ender` | i have, why? |
| 23:57:00 | ender` | (i added the patches from the wiki) |
| 23:57:12 | Bagder | ah, ok, then I'm fine |
| 23:57:21 | ender` | sh-elf-gcc (GCC) 4.0.4 (Gentoo 4.0.4, pie-8.7.8, rockbox patch #1) |
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| 23:58:57 | jhMikeS | preglow: the |= stuff keeps the interrupts enabled and things moving along, but CPU_INT_CLR is being used as a way to stop interrupts but I'm guessing it just clears the stat and doesn't remask it |
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