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#rockbox log for 2007-05-21

00:00:14Zagorbluebrother: apparently it's a dupe protection thing in flyspray. only in your case it wasn't a dupe...
00:00:44bluebrotherok. Good it wasn't a new issue :)
00:01:47 Quit zobo (Client Quit)
00:01:50Nico_PZagor: what is the dupe thing in the related tasks tab ?
00:02:29ZagorI don't know :-)
00:02:34 Quit sergey (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
00:03:14bluebrotheryou can now mark tasks as duplicates and they get linked :)
00:03:42Zagorbluebrother: but how do you mark that?
00:04:14*jhMikeS has to make dinner for everyone and will check the table again soon
00:04:14bluebrotherno idea −− maybe it automatically extracts it when you close a task as duplicate and add FS#xyz in the closing comment?
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00:07:21austriancoderjhMikeS: nice work on bitmasks for inputs.. will adapt my "AudioAPIProposal"
00:10:05 Quit moos ("Glory to Rockbox")
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00:10:19 Quit barrywardell ()
00:11:23peturBagder: fyi, my h380 turned out to have trailing spaces in the root dir (or so chkdsk /f told me) - only the cmdline chkdsk seemed to fix that
00:12:30Bagder!
00:12:40bluebrotheris trailing spaces a problem with vfat?
00:12:58peturthe last dir entry is supposed to be NULL
00:13:15 Quit robin0800 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!")
00:13:19peturso it was displaying the garbage behind it as entries
00:13:35Zagorbluebrother: you were right about closing comments and duplicates.
00:13:36bluebrotherah, that type of trailing spaces.
00:13:43peturwindows was ok with that (garbage likes garbage?) but linex didn't
00:13:44bluebrotherZagor, cool :)
00:13:53peturlinux :)
00:14:06bluebrotherisn't linux more tolerant against the fat specs at all? ;-)
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00:25:55Zagori'm off to bed. bye all.
00:25:56 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting")
00:27:13Bagderhttp://daniel.haxx.se/devcon2007/Devcon_team.jpg
00:27:46bluebrotherwho's hiding behind LinusN?
00:27:58*amiconn summons LinusN
00:28:06scorcheanders
00:28:10Bagderbluebrother: Anders, a local non-developer guy
00:28:28bluebrotherah. I was already wondering who this Anders is ;-)
00:28:37a1titudehaha
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00:29:50*Bagder restores the ordinary logo
00:29:59bluebrotherin german anderst = different :D
00:30:14amiconnt?
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00:30:58cablesIs there any support on iPods for remote controls, or controls that use the dock port?
00:30:59bluebrotherremove t from anderst :)
00:31:07bluebrothercables, not yet.
00:31:25*petur did a final update of his devcon2007 pictures and ends his post-devcon-session in the hotel room
00:31:28cablesbluebrother, ok :(
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00:32:53scorchepetur: are you staying in sweden for a little bit or something?
00:33:16peturyes, until tomorrow 7am ;)
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00:34:34bluebrotherso you have 7 hours left for sightseeing
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00:35:39*petur watches a 10 minute recording of part of a devcon meeting... strange talk about bags of shit all the time ;)
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00:36:04a1titude A question to the people who were at the devcon, how do you feel it went?
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00:36:06Bagder:-)
00:36:23Bagdera1titude: we had fun, we had some good talks
00:36:38peturI feel it was productive...
00:36:38Bagderand we handed out some nice shirts and cups!
00:36:41a1titude:)
00:37:04bluebrotherhand me out a cup too! ;-)
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00:37:19bluebrotherbtw, how much webcam images were saved?
00:37:27Bagderevery picture
00:37:48BagderLinus has them all
00:37:54bluebrothercool. So someone can make a time compressed movie out of it
00:38:04Bagderexactly, that's the plan
00:38:08bluebrother:D
00:38:17bluebrotherthe new demo videos for mpegplayer?
00:38:24a1titudehaha I wanna see that
00:38:25XcQhalo any onw can help me with use .avi files in a rockbox ipod
00:38:27Bagdershould be very easy to compress since not much is moving ;-)
00:38:38bluebrotherXcQ, you can't use avi files in Rockbox.
00:38:45XcQok
00:38:46*Bagder heads to bed
00:38:52bluebrotheryou need to use mpeg2
00:38:57XcQok
00:39:04bluebrothersee the wiki −− PluginMpegplayer page
00:39:10XcQok
00:39:24a1titudehttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer#Using_WinFF_Windows_Linux.
00:39:29peturhahahahaha it seems the username 'bagofshit' is not available on youtube
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00:39:46peturthere goes a fine nickname
00:39:48XcQthx 1 more how i go to the normal ipod without uninstall rockbox
00:39:49a1titudethis dousn't supprise me
00:40:08scorcheXcQ: read the FAQ
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00:41:38bluebrotherenable hold while booting
00:41:48bluebrotherand please read the manual. It answers a lot of questions
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00:43:11XcQi have hold it down i have read the faq before but i come to rockbox
00:43:30austriancoderfor what is SOUND_LEFT_GAIN, SOUND_RIGHT_GAIN used in rockbox?
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00:45:28bluebrotherdo you get a "cleared" splash when booting?
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00:49:47peturfun devcon2007 movie coming up on youtube as soon as they've processed it
00:51:57a1titudehaha ok
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00:53:03cableswhat is "Caption Backlight" in LCD settings?
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00:54:35JdGordoncables: the backlight turns on at the start/end of every track for a fwe sec
00:55:02cablesJdGordon, thanks
00:56:15LloreanIt could readily be renamed "Excessive Battery Drain"
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00:58:00JdGordondoes anyone know if only devs can vote in the tracker?
00:58:32bluebrotherI think everyone can.
00:59:15JdGordonI dont know if I like the voting or not :p
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01:00:57bluebrotheroh, we could simply ignore it but users think they could change something by voting :)
01:01:01Llorean Where do people vote?
01:01:33bluebrotherthe left pane of the task has a "votes" item, and a "add vote" link
01:01:43LloreanAaah
01:01:48LloreanI was looking for a full button
01:01:57LloreanI do like the "Roadmap" feature.
01:02:15cablesWhat is "dithering"?
01:02:27bluebrotherwe just need to add more tasks so we're not almost at 3.0 :)
01:02:30Lloreancables: Is that not covered in the manual yet?
01:02:39cablesLlorean, I don't think so... I'll search.
01:02:44Lloreanbluebrother: A task entitled "Fix Everything" perhaps?
01:02:53cablesDo I install a theme by unzipping it to my iPod's root dir?
01:02:53midkaycables: it is.
01:03:03bluebrotherand, (saw this at the fs bts) maybe add "todo" items with things we want to have in the next release
01:03:09scorchecables: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dithering
01:03:23cablesthanks
01:04:43bluebrotherthat improved search is really great. Much better than before.
01:05:34cablesHow do I turn off the eq?
01:05:59cablesdo i have to manually roll all the sliders down, or is there a "flat" preset?
01:06:20badsheepytheres an 'off' isnt there?
01:06:34badsheepyor there was last time i looked..
01:06:52cablesnot on mine
01:06:53cablesweird
01:06:55cablesin presets?
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01:07:12midkayno, in the equalizer menu.
01:07:19cablesoh ok
01:07:20cablesthanks
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01:09:33bluebrotherhow's the youtube thingy processing?
01:11:11peturstill nothing
01:11:32peturcould have stayed longer in the shower
01:11:33JdGordonhow long does it suually take t get a vid online?
01:11:34midkayprocessing? what exactly is that? are they reviewing it, or re-encoding it, or what?
01:11:37a1titudeit does take a while sometimes! :(
01:11:48a1titudehow long is the video?
01:12:02peturshort
01:12:37a1titudehaha, I would expect it to be done by now! lol
01:14:09Nico_Ppetur: what's the link ?
01:14:16peturI'm off to bed, got to get up at 5 for a flight at 7..... if it ever gets done, it should be here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VILQZz-RrtU (unless the uploading screwed up but that looked ok)
01:14:51peturI created a new user for this: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=peturbox
01:15:05Nico_Ppetur: any luck with your H300 ?
01:15:10amiconnhehe
01:15:58peturno, but it behaves different now, needs much more debugging
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01:16:10peturthe waiting for vbus rise is gone though
01:16:26amiconnWhat was the problem?
01:16:28peturand the led on the stick flashed briefly when plugging
01:16:31a1titudeamiconn: hows the 80 dooing?
01:17:03peturamiconn: me silly forgot to actually call the enable power function I wrote
01:17:21amiconnuh oh
01:17:27Nico_Ppetur: I was referring to it not mounting in linux
01:17:59peturand I was testing on the h300 of Linus, which he later told me was a US moddel - no wonder that fix didn work
01:18:38peturNico_P: root dir had 'trailing spaces'
01:18:47Nico_Pah
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01:19:17cablesIs there any work done on getting iPod remotes working?
01:19:44peturoff to bed, if all goes right I'm back noon tomorrow (at work)
01:19:56a1titudenight
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01:24:02bluebrothercables, nope
01:24:31bluebrotherI was considering to get one any play around with it. Just waiting for some more time to arrive.
01:24:45cablesbluebrother, it seems like the codes should be pretty standard
01:25:28bluebrotherwhat codes are you talking about? From reading the ipl wiki it looks like it uses the serial port of the Ipod
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01:27:37bluebrotherif that works it shoudn't be too hard
01:28:20bluebrotheranyway, I'm out for sleep. See you tomorrow
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01:36:37*Cassandra is back home from Devcon and Still Not Dead Yet.
01:36:49amiconnwb :)
01:37:08CassandraYou too. :)
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01:38:30amiconnhmm
01:39:06Cassandrahmmm?
01:39:14amiconnWhen I want to commit 80GB/5.5 support, I need to provide a new bootloader, an that also means a new set of ipodpatcher and rbutil binaries
01:40:37CassandraWell, rbutil is still in flux at the moment anyway.
01:41:02CassandraDon't worry about getting that up to date. We'll sort it next time we update it.
01:41:32CassandraIpod 80GB owners who are desperate to try it out will just have to wait.
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01:41:47n1samiconn: will the 80BG have a seperate build?
01:41:52amiconnnope
01:42:01CassandraOr install by hand. Maybe it's not such a bad thing that there's an obstacle.
01:42:02cablesIs there any way to change the scroll sensitivity?
01:42:31cablesah, found it
01:42:37DerPapstand as long as the bootloader isn'T built into ipodpatcher one can still use ./ipodpatcher -a bootloader.ipod ;)
01:42:41CassandraIs there a separate 5.5G bootloader?
01:42:59n1samiconn: and the bootloader, will it be the same for all (80gb and others) too?
01:43:00amiconnHmm, that reminds me. I need testers on ipod video other than 80GB
01:43:05amiconnn1s: yes
01:43:26Cassandraamiconn: I'll take a look tomorrow.
01:43:27n1sah, very nice, no complication of installation instructions
01:43:29*DerPapst only has 3G and 5.5G 80GB here
01:44:12DerPapstamiconn: out of curiosity... where are you from? you were back so early from devcon
01:44:23amiconnBerlin
01:44:32DerPapsto.O
01:44:35DerPapstcool
01:44:39DerPapstme too :D
01:44:53n1sgnightt everyone
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01:45:13*DerPapst waves a hello from Buch (Pankow)
01:45:56krazykitthe pope works on rockbox? :-O
01:46:32DerPapstwell.. more uses than works ;)
01:47:05krazykitwell, still
01:47:14krazykithatte keine ahnung.
01:47:19DerPapsthehe
01:47:43DerPapstdid i mention that the real pope has a nano (1G)?
01:48:15krazykitit'd be sweet if he listened to herbert groenemeyer or something.
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01:49:00CassandraI think he's more of a System of a Down man.
01:49:09krazykitgodsmack, perhaps
01:49:39CassandraEither that or Marilyn Manson.
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01:52:14SoapBlack Sabbath?
01:52:23DerPapsthehe
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01:58:10DerPapstamiconn: Do you live near U Cottbusser Platz?
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02:02:06cablesIs there any way to set how fast Rockbox scrolls in response to the scroll wheel?
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02:04:49CassandraNo.
02:06:52cablesWhat does disktidy do?
02:08:09*jhMikeS wonders why we're back to good ol' ld segmentation faults :\
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02:08:35cablesIs there a way to set a default OS to boot into?
02:09:12jhMikeSin rb, no
02:09:40maxkelleyyou must instead program your mind.
02:10:07maxkelley(I suggest using the jtag interface on the medulla oblongata)
02:10:15*jhMikeS wonder's why one would install rockbox and want the OF by default
02:10:47badsheepyshared mp3 player?
02:11:14*jhMikeS doesn't share :)
02:11:30badsheepywell i dont have an iriver
02:11:35badsheepydont think they should be removed though :)
02:12:38badsheepyim not sure what i just said made as much sense as it should have
02:13:01austriancoderplease review and test this patch http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7138?getfile=13950 - I want to commit it the following week
02:14:55safetydancables, the manual will answer your question about disktidy. And no you can't set a different default OS
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02:16:00*jhMikeS wonders where the settings for address 70002808 were found since the emu never shows it. anyone with a nicely formatted fw disasm is invited to share it...gratitude in advance :)
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02:16:33*amiconn just updated FS #6549 for those eager to test
02:16:51amiconnI'd like to see this tested on non-80GB ipod videos before committing
02:17:47jhMikeSfinally /target for sound.c? sounds like a good idea.
02:18:11cablessafetydan, the manual doesn't have anything about disktidy, I just searched it.
02:18:38cablessafetydan, I'm not stupid, I RTFM before I asked.
02:19:15austriancoderjhMikeS: Yes.. I also want to bring in an api for audiohw_* functions - look in the wiki, where I have the proposal
02:21:07*austriancoder has an updateded patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7138?getfile=13952 - missed audiohw.h
02:21:21jhMikeSI saw that, yes. There's still suprisingly much code hanging around not moved to the /target tree in general too.
02:21:52austriancoderjhMikeS: ineeded.. there is a lot of stuff to move
02:21:58safetydancables, http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-h100/rockbox-buildch9.html#x12-2000009.4.5
02:26:25jhMikeSwhere are the people involved in initially getting the e200 port working been? I have many questions and need of any additional info they might have.
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02:28:53austriancoderjhMikeS: barrywardell is one of them... mail him or wait until he is in irc
02:29:34jhMikeSaustriancoder: I never see him here. I haven't seen dan_a either.
02:29:37schulabtw. when i do make clean the app and the firmware folder are removed, is this by intention?
02:30:40austriancoderjhMikeS: I think I have saw them last week - if I where you, I would mail them
02:30:52Lloreanschula: What do you expect to happen?
02:31:19schulaLlorean: remove the .o files, remove the .rockbox directory, etc
02:31:34schulajust remove the compiled/generated stuff
02:31:40alienbiker99jhMikeS barry was in here today
02:31:53alienbiker99or in the gigabeat channel
02:34:36austriancodertime to go to bed... see ya
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02:35:13Lloreanschula: Its purpose is to restore the build directory to the state after running configure, I believe. What exactly do you feel it shouldn't be deleting that it is/
02:35:14Llorean?
02:35:17LloreanIn terms of files, that is.
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02:37:24schulaLlorean: the app and the firmware folder
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02:38:11Lloreanschula: Which files in there aren't generated?
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02:40:28schulaLlorean: *.c? or how it is supposed to clean the working directory? i just run make clean and then make again and it doesnt work, because the app folder doesnt exist, so i have to update the sources again.
02:40:45LloreanYou're not following directions properly then
02:40:50schulaoh ok
02:40:59LloreanYou need to make a separate build directory
02:41:02LloreanAnd run configure in it
02:41:13schulaah
02:41:16LloreanIf you have /rockboxsource/ you make /rockboxsource/build and then in that run ../tools/configure
02:41:36schulaok, sorry :( shame on me
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02:42:47wwalkerCan I dual boot my iPod (nano, 1st gen) with both iPod's OS and RockBox?
02:42:54DerPapstyes
02:43:15amiconnLlorean: Hmm, actually configure should complain if someone tries to configure in the source root
02:44:02*amiconn wonders why that didn't work as intended for schula
02:44:16badsheepyit doesnt complain for me either
02:45:06amiconnamiconn->sleep();
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02:49:48wwalkerDerPapst: was that answer for me?
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02:51:10schulawwalker: yes :)
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02:52:41DerPapstduh.../me is always clicking the wron butt
02:52:45DerPapstons :-/
02:52:58*DerPapst gives up
02:53:08schulals
02:55:11wwalkerwhere do I find what hte numbers (0 thru 5) mean on the build matrix?
02:55:39LloreanThey're the number of errors, or warnings
02:56:49wwalkerLlorean: thx
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03:20:38wwalkerwhen I double click on the ipodpatcher, it opens in textmate instead of running as an executable...?
03:22:23wwalkerweird. It works from the command line, so never mind.
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04:08:29wwalkerthanks to all who support rock box! Looks sweet! off to load my content again (had to convert from hfs to fat32
04:11:26saratogais there someway to get gcc to spit out assmebly and c line by line in one file?
04:11:35saratogai think i remember seeing that, but I can't remember how
04:14:51midkayamiconn: any expectation when you'll commit the iPod 80gig stuff?
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04:42:06chrisjs169Bagder - I'm working on getting rbclient back up - I reinstalled the OS
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04:57:12zivan56new sansa fm tuner patch is up, should act like other radios now
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05:15:35wwalkerIs there a specific location in the filesystem where I should upload my content for the Database to parse it? Or will it just parse every file on the disk?
05:16:30LloreanEvery file
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06:28:14wwalkerare there any alternate fonts for the nano? I'd like a larger font. the faq says "They're too big for a Nano" a little vague, but in conjunction with finding no fonts on my nano...
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06:30:13LloreanWhat FAQ says that?
06:30:57LloreanI know the manual clearly explains how to get and use the fonts extras. What FAQ are you referring to?
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06:43:43wwalkerhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ#It_doesn_t_look_very_pretty
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06:47:09kdoggyo can someone help me out?
06:47:40kdogganyone?
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06:48:25kdoggim tryin to load up the rockbox and im gettin an error
06:48:33webguest76radio for sansa e200 is ready?
06:48:34kdoggi have the ipod 20gb
06:49:02webguest76Anyone know about the rockbox radio support for sansa e200?
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06:50:47kdoggcan u help wwalker?
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06:52:22webguest76hi zivan56
06:52:28webguest76what's the status for radio on sansa e200?
06:52:40webguest76can it works now?
06:53:12kdoggcan anyone help ?
06:53:18wwalkerkdogg: /topic then read the next to last bullet item on the page. then read it again. had you asked a question I'd've helped, but I'm going to bed now. maybe someone else wants to play 20 questions with you
06:53:58kdoggwhat does that mean sorry
06:54:14zivan56webguest76: yes, it can, still have accuracy issues
06:54:28wwalkeron any channel, you should read and heed the Topic info. if you don't see it, type "/topic"
06:54:37wwalkerg'night all
06:54:58webguest76where can i get a build with radio support ?
06:55:29zivan56don't know, you probably have to compile it yourself or get someone to include it
06:55:49webguest76ic. thanks
06:56:06zivan56I don't know what is needed to get it into SVN, but probably other devs have to test it
06:56:12webguest76zivan56: thanks for your working
06:56:43zivan56np, was an interesting project to say the least...
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06:57:25webguest76hope we can get it with offical release soon
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06:58:26zivan56hopefully at least one core dev has a sansa with fm support, still needs quite a bit of fine tuning
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06:59:41kdoggcan someone help out i keep gettin the cannot load ipod.rockbox
06:59:42kdogg?
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07:00:36webguest76zivan56: I have a sansa with FM support. But i don't know how to compile the source
07:00:39webguest76zivan56: I will help to testing
07:01:50zivan56not much to test, tune to frequency and see if it does it...
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07:03:18webguest76I don't know how to compile the source
07:03:20webguest76can you help upload a build to some place i can download
07:05:39Joelyheh, i can build, just send me a patch
07:06:53zivan56http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7178 last file on there
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07:07:23Joelyok
07:12:04kdogganyone know how to change themes on the ipod help me please
07:12:17kdogg???
07:12:32webguest76Joely: Can you upload to some place for downloading ? thx
07:12:49webguest76Joely: After you compile the patch
07:13:03ptw419i've managed to find out a better way to get code working on the S. I was able to get a custom nk.exe file working
07:13:35kdoggso can anyone help out?
07:13:40Joelywebguest76, sure thing ;) , also i'm compiling with debug and profiling...
07:13:43Joelyjust in case
07:13:53Joelybut heh, let's hope the radio just works (tm)
07:13:56kdoggjoely u know how to do the themes on an ipod
07:14:00kdogg?
07:14:15Joelysearch `WPS' on the wiki
07:14:41kdoggthanks
07:15:28Joelywebguest76...you want the zip file or just rockbox.e200?
07:15:32kdoggjoely nothin came up have u done this before
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07:15:59webguest76just rockbox.e200
07:16:41Joelyhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS <−− that's how you make them
07:16:54kdoggno i dont want to make them
07:17:01kdoggi just dont know how to get them to load on the ipod
07:17:10Joelyhttp://www.rockbox-themes.org/
07:17:13Joelyoh
07:18:43Joelyjust download the wps file....and browse for it, it's in the man
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07:19:29kdoggya and it says its loaded but nothin is commin up
07:20:42kdogg?
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07:24:00webguest76Joely: I think it should be rockbox.mi4 file. not rockbox.e200 file
07:24:34Joelyhaha yeah, sorry my bad, i was thinking you needed the bootloader as well, d'oh
07:25:45kdoggjoely can u help out?
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07:25:55webguest76Joely: ok. send me the zip file of the .rockbox folder .
07:25:57webguest76Joely: have you finished. I cannot wait to tune the radio
07:26:03Joelyi have it
07:26:05Joelypm?
07:26:11Joelywhere should i post it?
07:26:44webguest76oh
07:26:55webguest76can you mail it to me?
07:27:03Joelysure, give me your address in pm
07:27:15kdogganyone done the themes on an ipod please help
07:27:57kdogg???
07:28:39pearldiverkdogg what seems to be the problem?
07:29:40kdoggpearl thanks
07:30:05kdoggi have downloaded the theme from rockbox.org/themes and i have no clue how to apply them to my ipod
07:30:12pearldiverare you using the official build?
07:30:21pearldiverno patched included?
07:30:26pearldiverpatches*
07:30:30kdoggman i have no clue
07:30:42Joely(it's scanning...)
07:30:49pearldiverhow did you get rockbox on your ipod?
07:30:50kdoggi know i get rockbox up and then i go to browse themes
07:30:58kdoggthrough the website
07:31:01pearldiverok
07:31:12Joelyzivan56
07:31:15Joelylmfao
07:31:23Joelyit tuned to this alleluia song
07:31:26Joelyon the radio!!
07:31:41pearldivernow download some basic WPS that doesn't require any custom build
07:31:42Joely`let all things their creator bless!!'
07:32:45pearldiveryou'll have a .zip file that you need to unzip to your .rockbox folder on your player
07:32:46kdoggi got the ajant orange
07:33:17pearldiver(that's 3 folders: backdrops, themes, wps_
07:33:24pearldiver)*
07:33:56Joelyzivan56, what all do you need me to do? it autoscanned perfectly
07:33:59pearldiverdid you go through this step already?
07:34:08kdoggwhich step
07:34:18pearldiverunzipping the downloaed archive
07:34:23pearldiverdownloaded*
07:35:04kdoggyea so i have the rar file open on my desktop then i extract to g:/ipod or clcik on the g dierectory and put it in the .rockbox folder?
07:35:50pearldiverkdogg i think you're better off to unarchive it first somwhere on your hard drive
07:36:17pearldiverlet's say c:\rockbox\wps\ajant
07:36:34pearldivernow inside ajant folder you should have 3 folders
07:36:38kdoggok
07:36:39pearldiverbackdrops, themes, wps
07:36:48pearldiverlet me know if you see them
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07:37:24kdoggyes i have those folders
07:37:30pearldiverok, good
07:37:50pearldivernow you have to copy those 3 folders on your player inside the .rockbox folder
07:38:17kdoggok hang on
07:39:13kdoggok they r now there
07:39:18pearldiverok very good
07:39:44kdoggnow what
07:39:58pearldivernow you might try to load it through settings/browse themes
07:40:07pearldiver(on your player of course)
07:40:11kdoggso startup the rockbox
07:40:17pearldiveryep
07:40:29pearldiverdisconnect the player and start up rockbox
07:41:24kdoggok so i browse themes
07:41:26kdogg?
07:41:33pearldiveryep
07:41:38pearldiverdo you see it there?
07:42:15kdoggyep
07:42:27pearldivergo on and select it
07:42:27kdoggajant orange
07:42:44kdoggok says setings loaded
07:43:15pearldiverok browse around / pick a song to play
07:43:21pearldiverdoes it look like it's screenshot?
07:43:35kdoggno nothin is happening im still in settings
07:45:14pearldiverso the menu still looks the same?
07:45:31pearldiverno different background/font were loaded?
07:45:49kdoggyea
07:46:01kdoggdoes is it matter that i dont have a color ipod?
07:46:34Joelysomebody with real standing check that radio patch into svn! it's working amazingly!
07:46:51pearldiverkdogg oh what kind of ipod do you have?
07:46:57kdogg20gig
07:47:02pearldiverwhich gen?
07:47:19webguest76yes. It FM autoscan working.
07:47:31kdogg4th i think how can i tell
07:48:08Joelyfor me, if even works _exactly_ the best on the frequency it's supposed to be on! so there's a plus
07:49:45pearldiverkdogg well that explains it
07:50:37webguest76radio works
07:50:37webguest76on sansa now.
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07:51:28kdoggwat?
07:52:34pearldiveryou can't use those wps on your ipod
07:53:07kdoggyea i see that now lol
07:53:13kdoggwoops thanks man im sorry to bother u again
07:53:28pearldiverjust download something for your ipod
07:53:36pearldiverand go through the same procedure
07:54:01pearldiverhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIriverH100
07:54:02pearldiverhere
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07:56:49kdoggwhat is that
07:56:53Joelyhmm I still have my JTAG wiggler ready....anyone care to use it for helping out on the pp5024 emulator? My hands shake, so when I tried soldering it last year, the jtag header kinda - well now it just isn't there. If anyone is willing to solder a pin header to a sansa jtag...I'd be very much in their debt! (i'm willing to pay)
07:58:58pearldiverkdogg thats custom wps page for your ipod
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08:02:25Joelyhehe it's fun that rockbox lets you listen to music while listening to the radio ;)
08:03:17zivan56yes, the chip supports mixing, the mic input could be thrown in as well
08:03:17kdoggbut pearl i dont have an i river
08:04:02pearldiveri know but they share the wps :P
08:04:16pearldiversame type of screen
08:04:26kdoggohh ok lol
08:04:46kdoggso does the them auto apply when i restart it without the rockbox
08:04:53Joelyzivan56, yeah, i noticed that before, it gave me the inspiration for making an IR module out of my sansa
08:05:18pearldiverkdogg once the theme is applied you'll see it everytime you start the rockbox
08:06:27kdogghmm stil not wokring then cause rockbox looks the same
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08:07:40Joelyok, i should probably know this, but the `audio thread' (as stated in the debugging menu) is the total buffer going to the DAC right?
08:08:05pearldiverkdogg which one did you get?
08:09:31kdoggthe message and nothin is going on
08:10:09pearldiverno i mean which theme
08:10:18kdoggthemessage
08:11:45pearldivertry to play a song
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08:12:38kdogghow do i do that through rockbox or do i uinstall the rockbox then play the song?
08:14:23pearldivertry to play a song while in rockbox
08:15:07kdoggok it changed now if i uninstall rockbox will the themes still be active?
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08:17:08pearldiverwell if you remove all the files than of course no
08:18:44kdoggwell thats gay so the rockbox has to be open to see the difference
08:19:03kdogghey real quick im tryin to just drag and drop albums to my ipod whats the quickest way?
08:19:11pearldiverwhat kind of difference?
08:19:27kdogglike my themes are not saved to the ipod
08:20:35pearldiverif you applied a theme and leave all the rockbox files in tact on your player, the theme wont go anywhere
08:20:55pearldiveryou will see it everytime you start up your player
08:21:04kdoggbut rockbox will start too
08:21:05kdogg?
08:21:33pearldiveri don't really understand the question
08:22:38kdoggwell i guess i thought that my ipod would look different but i have to be running the rockbox for it to do that
08:23:14pearldiverah yes, of course
08:23:26kdoggdo u have rockboc
08:23:29kdogg?
08:23:41Joelykdogg, rockbox is a replacement firmware...not a patch for the original firmware..
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08:23:53pearldiverwhat Joely said
08:24:21kdoggdo u use it/
08:24:53pearldiveri have a different player altogether but yes i do use rockbox
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08:26:34Joelykdogg, if you read the front page of the website...it'll tell you this and more, such as what features it offers (more codecs, more customability, open source, equalizer support, etc)
08:27:00kdogghey pearl how do i drag and drop files
08:27:39pearldiveryou just...drag and drop them in the file explorer
08:29:00kdoggyea but for some reason doesnt show up on my ipod
08:29:47badsheepyare you looking in the original firmware
08:30:03badsheepycause they wont show up there :o
08:31:21*amiconn is a bit confused
08:31:41Joelyhttp://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml kdogg, not to be rude, but you seriously need to read this
08:32:06kdoggok no more rockbox now im on my ipod and its connected to the computer how do i drag files to the ipod
08:32:17amiconnAfaik several people reported performance problems with peakmeters on the ipod video, but I have them running with no problem (just using the default wps with a larger font)
08:32:36amiconnThis is with 320kbps mp3...
08:36:30kdoggpearl u still there
08:37:28kdogg?
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08:40:49kdogghey pearl i dragged and nothing is showing up on the ipod
08:52:29midkayamiconn: i think it used to be a bigger problem than it is now.. we've since had libmad optimizations, LCD driver optimizations, scheduler optimizations...
08:52:53midkaymany such improvements.
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09:01:00JdGordonin http://pastebin.ca/499761 the denominator is constant, so it can be moved to after the loop right? just do val =/ (total*...) and I'll get the same answer?
09:03:29amiconnThe answer might differ slightly, due to rounding
09:04:20amiconnAnd if val overflows when not dividing immediately, the result can be very different...
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09:05:01JdGordonok, thanks
09:05:24JdGordongetting the same value either way, so ill do it after the loop to make it look better :p
09:05:31JdGordon(for an assignment)
09:05:33amiconnBut if it doesn't overflow, dividing after the loop would be a good idea
09:06:57JdGordonI'm expecting values around 0.03 to 0.09 .. so not really worried there
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09:17:29Joelyit's the B4gder!
09:17:44*B4gder says mooo
09:18:47Joelydo you know how the JTAGing of the sansa went? i can't find anything yet...
09:19:08B4gdernobody ever tried the jtag interface of it afaik
09:19:17Joely=-O
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09:20:39Joelycan you solder a pin header block to my sansa if i pay for postage and a little `handling fee'? :)
09:20:54Joelyi have to find _someone_ to do it!
09:20:59B4gdermy soldering skills are really crappy so I'm not the one to ask
09:21:04Joelyah
09:21:07midkayamiconn: so any plans to commit your 80gig work soon?
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09:29:43JdGordonspeaking of which... was there any talk about adding a disk cache for large mem targets?
09:29:51JdGordoninstead of just readin 1 secotr at a time
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09:33:04B4gdermidkay: I figure he wants it tested on a few videos first
09:33:28B4gderwe agreed a bigger fat cache would be a good benefit
09:33:56midkayB4gder: ah, seems likely.. cool. i hope it makes SVN soon.. might be stuck with one of those 80GB models instead of my old 5G 60GB in a few days. :)
09:34:36B4gdermidkay: you can help by testing a patched version on your 5g and verify that nothing breaks
09:34:47midkayi'd be glad to..
09:37:04midkayi'm going to bed in just a few moments though... so tomorrow perhaps? or whenever such a build is produced..
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09:45:16JdGordonhey Zagor, can you make the rockbox logo at the top of the flyspray pages point to rockbox.org instead of /tracker?
09:46:11ZagorI'll take a look
09:47:57B4gderis there an actual functional improvement in FS #7138 ?
09:48:06B4gderother than code restructuring I mean
09:50:16JdGordonthere shjuoldnt be
09:50:30JdGordonjust making the code simpler, iirc
09:51:12JdGordonhmm... actually.. no, maybe there is
09:51:46GodEaterewww - the html layout on flyspray appears to have gone all over the place
09:52:15B4gderGodEater: reload the css
09:54:12GodEaterah - Ctrl-F5 to the rescue
09:54:38*GodEater curses his lack of internet access at home. No connection to svn :(
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09:56:06XavierGrZagor: Are you sure that the clip icon on attachments is meant to be cropped, it seems weird to me
09:56:54B4gderXavierGr: either way, I would say its a flyspray problem and not Zagor's
09:57:01XavierGrah okay then
09:57:10ZagorI simply assume so, since it's clipped by the box. having an image show both inside and outside the box requires lots of html and css trickery that I would expect the flyspray devs don't think is necessary
09:57:11B4gderbut yes, it looks wrong
09:57:59Zagor(at least according to my somewhat limited css skills)
09:58:28B4gdermeeting time
09:58:47ZagorI think it's good. I wouldn't want it completely inside the box. That would make it look like a second icon.
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09:58:59ZagorAnd I wouldn't want it covering text on the outside of the box either.
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10:00:17XavierGrI would just expected to see the clipper inside the box without being clipped... but if that's the way it is by default then I don't know if you can do anything about it
10:00:22XavierGr-ed
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10:05:31*GodEater applauds amiconn's 80GB work
10:06:40sneakumsvorbis doesn't seem to work for me
10:06:45*sneakums looks for some mp3s to try
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10:09:26sneakumsyep, mp3 works
10:10:48ZagorJdGordon: icon link fixed
10:11:12JdGordoncheers :)
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10:15:01ZagorXavierGr: I think it's safe to say that the clipping is intentional since it looks the same on their own tracker: http://bugs.flyspray.org/task/937
10:15:36sneakumshmm, it works now. weird.
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10:16:52sneakumsi must have hit select and pause at the same time or something, i never had a chance to get used to the clickwheel
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10:30:27GodEaterhmm
10:30:43GodEatershould the "hold menu whilst plugging in USB" trick work on the iPod ? So as not to trigger disk access mode ?
10:34:59badsheepyshould do
10:35:08badsheepyi find its a bit.. temperamental though
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10:53:20JdGordoncan anyone help me with Makefiles? I need a simple one which will compile a list of .c seperatly to .o's and then link them all.. just like rockbox's except 100x simpler...
10:55:01intgr%o : %c
10:55:01intgr$(CC) -c $(CPFLAGS) $(INCFIRST) -I$(INCDIR) $(INCLAST) $< -o $@
10:55:42intgrYou can remove most of the variables there.
10:55:45intgrThat will make .o's out of your .c files.
10:56:12JdGordonwhere do I put my .c list?
10:56:51intgrSRCS = x.c y.c z.c
10:57:05intgrOBJS = $(SRCS:.c=.o)
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10:57:24intgrAnd then hmm
10:58:18intgrexecutable_name: $(OBJS)
10:59:01intgr$(CC) $(OBJS) -o $@
10:59:14intgrAnd that should be all, in theory.
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11:00:23JdGordonis cc -c $< -o $@ enough for the %o :%c ones?
11:00:45JdGordondont need any extra include dirs...
11:00:46intgrYep.
11:01:04intgrI took that from an existing Makefile.
11:01:19JdGordonno rule to make cipher.c
11:01:26JdGordoncipher.c is in $SCRS though
11:01:35intgrSRCS?
11:01:43intgrDoes cipher.c even exist?
11:02:01intgr"no rule to make" means make can't find the source file, and cannot figure out how to create it.
11:02:13intgr(Since it's not an output file)
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11:04:05JdGordon:= is concat isnt it?
11:05:15*JdGordon bbs
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11:06:49intgrDunno.
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11:27:21JdGordondoesnt seem to like my lon list for SRCS
11:28:16Nico_PJdGordon: have you abandoned FS #6798 ?
11:29:04JdGordonNico_P: no, and it appears its wanted... just need to make it not work for scroll wheel targets and it could be commited
11:29:24Nico_Pwould you have time to sync it to SVN ?
11:29:35JdGordonif you want to finish it, please, go ahead :) gotta finish assignements before i can keep playing
11:29:50Nico_PI'll have a look
11:35:38JdGordonintgr: cheers, your file worked, apparently my .c was missing
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11:41:19intgrJdGordon: Ok, good. :)
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11:51:11bluebrotherin Makefiles, := is a non-expanding assignment
11:51:27bluebrotherto add something to a variable use +=
11:54:25JdGordonta
11:54:34*JdGordon has 3 nicely working Makedfiles now :)
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11:57:10JdGordonalmost...
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12:02:05Nico_PJdGordon: I've sync'ed your patch... works nice on my gigabeat
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12:02:26JdGordongreat :)
12:02:43bluebrotherdon't we already have some sort of accelleration in lists?
12:02:59Nico_PJdGordon: is it supposed to be the same speed as before when disabled ?
12:03:14JdGordonyeah, it shuold
12:03:24JdGordonbluebrother: only repeat actins being spat out faster...
12:03:36JdGordondinner....bbs
12:03:41bluebrotherah. ok.
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12:04:03Nico_Pbluebrother: maybe you'd like to toest the patch ?
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12:05:23bluebrotherNico_P: why not, I just can't test right now. Will have access to my dev environment in a couple of hours again
12:05:32Jetoni'm getting a static sound on my Sansa ever since the new audio API
12:05:38Nico_PI can make a build for you if you want
12:05:50Jetonwhen the LCD is on the sound is there, when the LCD is off, there's no static sound.
12:05:54bluebrotherwon't work, player not around :o
12:05:56Nico_Pok
12:06:00Jetonhas this been reported or confirmed?
12:06:00bluebrotherbut thanks, I'll try later myself
12:06:13bluebrotherJeton: what new audio API?
12:06:45Jetonaudio improvement i meant.
12:06:47Jetonfor the Sansa
12:07:16bluebrotherdo you know the revision when it changed?
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12:08:12Jetonhmm
12:08:16Jetoni think this http://www.rockbox.org/daily/changelogs/changes-20070518.html
12:08:39Jetonwhen these changes were applied the static began to appear.
12:09:21webguest43is it worth re-opening the New Ports thread for the 80GB iPod to let people know the patch needs testing ?
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12:09:42bluebrotherah. A webguest reveals his face ;-)
12:09:59GodEatersorry - was lazy when logging in ;)
12:10:14bluebrotherhehe
12:10:26GodEateralso had a sandwich in one hand - I blame that entirely
12:10:39bluebrotherJeton: you should ask jhMikeS about that −− if that is the cause he should know best
12:10:52Jetonokay
12:10:58Jetonthanks bluebrother
12:11:00bluebrotherthat poor sandwich. It can't even defend itself
12:11:12GodEaterbluebrother: it's in a better place now.
12:11:13Jetoni also posted a bug about it on flyspray.
12:11:18GodEateri.e. my stomach
12:12:09bluebrotherGodEater: should I unlock the topic so you can write about the patch?
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12:13:20bluebrotherok, unlocked.
12:14:38JdGordonNico_P: have you uploaded your fixed version?
12:14:39GodEaterupdating...
12:14:58Nico_PJdGordon: yes, it's on the tracker entry
12:16:23GodEaterupdated
12:17:24bluebrotherok −− I locked it again, discussion about the patch should go to the tracker anyway
12:17:27jhMikeSJeton: The radio inputs were enabled on the 14th and iirc others had static problems afterwards. You're certain about the date?
12:17:42Jetonnope.
12:17:47JdGordonNico_P: cool :) If the accel stuff is ifdeffed out for ipod and sansa you can commit if you want
12:17:48Jetoni might be wrong about the date.
12:17:56JdGordonunless more testers are wanted?
12:18:01Jetonbut it's not more that a week.
12:18:09Jeton*than a week
12:18:13amiconnGodEater: I don't know whether that would help. What is needed is testing the patch on ipod videos other than the 80GB
12:18:54Jetonoh and btw JdGordon : when i switch some themes they show less static sound that others.
12:18:58Jetonmight serve as an info.
12:19:01GodEateramiconn: I made that clear in the post
12:19:13ZagorI'm removing the page counter from daily.shtml and manual.shtml. it's too slow.
12:19:15*JdGordon thinks Jeton was talking to jhMikeS..
12:19:16*amiconn didn't check the forum today yet
12:19:41Jetonooops
12:19:45Jetonyes. :)
12:20:03Nico_PJdGordon: don't you want me to leave the committing to you ?
12:20:06bluebrotherI think it also gives the 80GB some "hope" ;-)
12:20:12GodEaterbluebrother: cool. I was going to add a note saying to people that compile / build their own version to test the patch that they shouldn't supply it to people who are unable to do so on their own. But never mind.
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12:20:51bluebrotherZagor: were these values computed on-the-fly?
12:21:45bluebrotheroh, and another problem with FS: Fatal error: main(): Failed opening required '/usr/share/flyspray/htdocs/lang/en.php'
12:22:14JdGordonNico_P: I dont care really.... ive got to work on uni work.. + its better if you get the blame for red delta :D
12:22:46Nico_Paha
12:23:01bluebrotherJdGordon: oh, I bet quite some will remember who the initial work^Wdelta did :D
12:23:24DerPapstcygwin is slow... it took about 1h30min to finish rockboxdev.sh (felt time) ;)
12:23:29JdGordonbluebrother: ?
12:23:44GodEaterDerPapst: keen to try the patch out heh ?
12:23:55bluebrotheron that patch I mean
12:24:13JdGordonoh well..
12:24:18JdGordonill say Nico_P hacked my fs account
12:24:24bluebrotherhehe
12:24:24GodEaterhahaha
12:24:58jhMikeSJeton: Confirm the date by trying a build just before that one. I don't get static at all though.
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12:25:24Jetonokay.
12:25:34Jetoni will report if there's a difference.
12:26:52jhMikeSIf the 17th one doesn't do it, check the 13th since the line1 enable was on the 14th.
12:28:00bluebrotherbbl
12:28:11jhMikeS"doesn't do it" = "doesn't stop the static"
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12:28:55DerPapstGodEater: done that already about 5am today :P
12:28:59Jungti1234hey
12:29:07Jungti1234tracker is down all day?
12:32:00aliaskHi Jungti1234
12:32:28DerPapstand youtube is even slower. i bet they're using cygwin too. petur's devcon movie is still not up :-/
12:32:58aliaskJungti1234: Yes, we are using a new version of Flyspray, and it has a lot of problems :)
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12:35:16peturphew... had serious delay on the flight home :(
12:36:55Nico_PZagor: are you making changes on the tracker ?
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12:40:43Nico_PJdGordon: your accel patch makes pages scrolling a bit weird ^^
12:40:45peturbah it seems the video I upped to youtube didn't make it at all :( wonder if that's because of the encoding (mjpeg) or the fact that it contains a monthy python song :(
12:41:05B4gder:-/
12:41:55GodEaterdon't they limit the length too ?
12:41:55DerPapstdoesn't youtube give a reason when they reject a video?
12:42:13peturit was quite short and small
12:42:19Nico_Ppetur: can't you upload it elsewhere ?
12:42:50DerPapstgoogle video :P
12:42:56peturI'll have another go at it tonight - left all my stuff home as I dashed to work
12:43:04GodEaterdailymotion or google video spring to mind
12:43:20peturI did youtube so I could get it online quickly before going to bed
12:43:24Nico_Pdailymotion is nice
12:43:27Nico_P... and french too :)
12:44:11GodEater:)
12:45:38*DerPapst hopes that this page is in english, because his french sucks....
12:47:09Nico_Phttp://www.dailymotion.com/gb
12:47:41B4gderwhoa, it tries to speak "native"
12:47:47DerPapstwhee...
12:48:00DerPapstit's available in german too :D
12:50:03Jungti1234finish when?
12:50:58JdGordonNico_P: yeah, I tihk it needs to disable scrolling if doing a page scroll
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12:52:28Nico_PJdGordon: I don't have much time right now but I might try to finish it up later
12:52:57JdGordonok
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12:59:54*DerPapst wonders what BUTTON_REL is...
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13:00:00B4gderrelease
13:00:09DerPapstahh
13:00:10DerPapst:)
13:00:56DerPapstso (BUTTON_LEFT | BUTTON_REL) means that the event is fired when i release button_left.
13:01:03B4gderyes
13:01:12DerPapstthanks :)
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13:05:45chrisjs169B4gder: I just reinstalled Ubuntu - can you check to confirm that the ssh key is working?
13:07:31ZagorNico_P: I made some changes. anything in particular you're thinking about?
13:07:49B4gderchrisjs169: works fine
13:08:12chrisjs169B4gder: Yay, thanks for confirming.
13:08:16Nico_PZagor: I just thought that moght be why it's not working
13:08:16B4gderchrisjs169: we actually have your server disabled, but I'll reenable it again now
13:08:28ZagorI just noticed...
13:08:33chrisjs169chrisjs169: I'm guessing it was disabled due to it being down?
13:08:53B4gderno, actually due some craziness
13:09:04chrisjs169ok...
13:09:12*chrisjs169 wonders why I said chrisjs169...
13:09:27B4gderI'm not sure exactly, I didn't see (LinusN took care of it) but it somehow played tricks on the build
13:09:29ZagorNico_P: working again. yes, that was my fault :-)
13:09:38*DerPapst bets chrisjs169 likes to talk to himslef :P
13:10:09ZagorI renamed the "operating system" field to "player type". but with a slight mistake. then I took lunch :)
13:10:38chrisjs169B4gder: weird...hopefully using Ubuntu instead of Kanotix will fix the craziness
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13:10:50B4gderchrisjs169: yeps
13:11:24B4gdernow if debian unstable could fix the binutils
13:11:27*petur starts to like ubuntu more and more (did I get pulled over to the dark side or out of the dark side?)
13:11:29B4gdergrrr
13:13:11ZagorB4gder: you can grab the old binutils from testing and install that in unstable without any side effects. I'll do that on www now.
13:13:51DerPapstgood bye at all
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13:16:37ZagorI've uploaded the binutils.deb into http://download.rockbox.org/useful/
13:16:51Zagorinstall it with "dpkg -i <pkg>"
13:17:12B4gderwill it upgrade that on dist-upgrade when there's an update?
13:17:16Zagoryes
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13:17:48peturB4gder: are we going to have a link to the 'user-saved' webcam images now that the webcam link is gone?
13:17:58B4gderah, we should...
13:18:53B4gderand I should generate thumbnails for them to make it easier to get an overview
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13:19:40peturheh... looking at the log of what happened on friday I see the log of drinking the first beer and then this wicked tower of rockbox only 10 minutes later - I wonder if there was any relation or inspiration :p
13:19:41Zagorwe should clear out the uninteresting "test clicks" too
13:20:28*petur should really start doing some payed work (tm)
13:21:07Zagorpetur: on a monday?? ;)
13:21:41peturyea, this ain't Sweden, you know :p
13:22:38peturZagor: on flyspray, if I hover my login name there's this pop-up with permissions: why is 'edit own comments' set to no?
13:24:17peturhmm I thought you had added that last modified date too
13:24:27JetonjhMikeS: the 17-th build
13:24:37Jetonit doesn't make any static sound.
13:24:49ZagorI had to take away the last-edited column. it is what caused the massive bogdown yesterday.
13:24:59peturah
13:25:02peturtoo bad
13:25:03jhMikeSJeton: ok. I wonder what's up with that.
13:25:04Zagora known flyspray bug, fixed in their svn
13:25:20CassandraHmmm. GaryLight has put a third party executable on the wiki which changes the Rockbox boot logo.
13:25:27ZagorI plan to pull their svn soon. they have various other changes we want, too.
13:25:48CassandraWhile I have no problem with this is principle, I'm not sure if it belongs on the official wiki.
13:25:57peturwe should ban putting exe's in the wiki
13:26:09JetonjhMikeS: "Change i2c config on e200" - could that be a reason?
13:26:11Zagorpetur: edit own comments now enabled.
13:26:28ZagorI'm not sure it was ever disabled, since you had the more blanked "edit comments" enabled. but this looks better anyway.
13:26:35Zagors/blanked/blanket
13:26:36Cassandrapetur: that's one potential solution.
13:26:59CassandraWhich reminds me, someone (yeah, him again) needs to give me write access to download.rockbox.org
13:27:01peturZagor: thanks, I can feel the power flowing to me already ;)
13:27:22ZagorCassandra: what do you need to do there?
13:27:29jhMikeSJeton: possibly but that's the setting from the original firmware. Anything in particular that makes it show up? Is there any part of RB where you don't hear it?
13:28:03CassandraZagor: Ah, you missed that bit. The proposed autoupdate engine for rbutil needs iit.
13:28:41*Zagor scrolls back a bit
13:28:45peturhttp://www.flyspray.org/about actually mentions the fact that it comes from the PSI guys.... They really should be working on their IM client, like adding voice conferencing to it
13:28:49*petur ducks
13:29:00CassandraZagor: Can you scroll bacl reality? Cool.
13:29:09*Cassandra meant at Devcon. ;)
13:29:13ZagorCassandra: a that was discussed this weekend? heh, ok
13:29:22*petur scrolls back to friday night and is happy with it
13:29:27*Zagor is spoiled with his pvr
13:29:33Jetonnope
13:30:00Jetonwhen playig music it's hard to notice it, because of the music.
13:30:05Jungti1234good, tracker is now working
13:30:10Jetonwhen in standby it's clearly audible.
13:30:26JdGordonanyone know how to replace \n with a space in a simple script?
13:30:31CassandraI love pvrs. Most because Douglas Adams' vision of video players so smart they work out what television you might like and watch it so you don't have to came to pass.
13:30:34*JdGordon failing miserably
13:30:43jhMikeSJeton: I really don't want to go back to the old i2c settings, they're quite slow. :\ Could be the reset. I have noticed a sound when buffering but one play starts it's gone.
13:30:43CassandraBut he never lived to see it, which is sad.
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13:31:07Jetonhmm
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13:31:15basscade1JdGordon: if you mean shell script, use | tr '\n' ' '
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13:31:21Cassandraperl -e "s/ /\n/g"
13:31:28Jetoni don't know . i think it was reported by some others on the ABI forums as well.
13:31:36CassandraErm, perl -ne, I think.
13:31:38Jetonbut i hope at least it gets fixed.
13:31:46JdGordoncheers sneakums, nice n simple
13:31:54CassandraStupid perl syntax. Go look up it on the perl man page.
13:32:07Cassandrased'd probably work too.
13:32:33CassandraOh, except I got the regexp the wrong way round too.
13:32:48CassandraNot too bright this afternoon, am I?
13:33:38jhMikeSJeton: So it's any time you have no audio...even just paused? It's hard to fix something I can't test.
13:34:24Jetonyep
13:34:39Jetonwhen there's no audio, there's static.
13:34:46Jetoneven paused
13:34:52Jetonwith the LCD on only.
13:35:39jhMikeSok, so no backlight = no static?
13:36:06Jetonyep
13:36:27jhMikeSif you move about in the menus, you hear it more?
13:36:40Jetonno
13:37:14Jetonwhen i switch themes, some themes cause it to increase, some cause a reduction of the static, but still there.
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13:38:38B4gderZagor: that binutils package doesn't work for me
13:38:43B4gder/usr/bin/ld: unrecognized option '−−hash-style=both'
13:38:56ZagorB4gder: !
13:39:17B4gderwhen I build a rockbox sim
13:39:36B4gderit would seem gcc is built for a newer/different binutils or something
13:40:08jhMikeSJeton: which theme makes it the worst?
13:40:11Zagorbleh
13:40:30JetonDockPod Aqua.
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13:40:37Jetonmy fav. theme ;)
13:41:14B4gderZagor: yeah, gcc-4.1 depends on binutils (>= 2.17cvs20070426
13:42:04Zagorok
13:42:24preglowso, you guys had fun, eh?
13:42:29*preglow wants tripel karmeliet
13:42:31preglow:/
13:42:47peturpreglow: missed you there
13:42:53B4gderyou can soon buy our signed bottle from petur! ;-)
13:43:18GodEaterB4gder: is it going up on ebay? :)
13:43:48B4gderpetur is in charge, but the plan is yes!
13:44:03pixelmaZagor: maybe it's already been fixed but the two notification mails I got from flyspray (about changes in the task) were missing the topic - though the last one was of yesterday)
13:44:17Zagorpixelma: that's fixed now
13:44:24pixelmaah ok
13:48:07B4gderFS #7197
13:48:10*B4gder faints
13:48:43Zagor"This is the first time I write to this forum. "
13:49:00B4gderit feels like the whole post should be moved to the goldenquotes page
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13:49:24B4gderit is so out in the blue
13:50:33*JdGordon wonders if a mandatory IQ test before allowing any registration would help
13:50:39JdGordonon FS, the wiki and the forums
13:50:52B4gder"please fill in the missing number: 2 + 2 = ...."
13:51:30DomonokyCassandra: you plan on building an autoupdate function for rbutil ? an other nice things planned for rbutil ?
13:51:31JdGordonmore interesting... whats the next number... "1, 3, 4, 65, 87, .."
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13:51:47Nico_Phaha I just saw this entry and was about to close it... then I thought "this is so dumb they're probably talking about it on the channel" :D
13:52:03B4gderhahaha
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13:52:44peturB4gder: look at http://www.demens.be/gastenboek/gastenboek_posten.php - we actually have the calc question on our page for guestbook posts
13:53:07B4gderhehe
13:53:18Nico_Pthat's a nice anti-spam measure
13:53:23peturand it works to keep out those spammers
13:53:31peturkissssss
13:53:37B4gderand it even works for the blinds, contrary to those image things
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13:54:31Nico_PJdGordon: I don't get your "1, 3, 4, 65, 87, .." thing... :(
13:54:56JdGordonthere is no pattern.... thats the buety about it :D
13:55:00JdGordonno more new users :D
13:55:20Nico_Phaha ok I'm reassured
13:55:44Zagoris someone here _not_ a developer in flyspray? I need to test a change in the "add new task" form
13:55:55Zagorbut it's only visible to non-developers
13:56:14peturcreate a test user?
13:56:21Zagorthat's too simple! ;)
13:56:29peturok, sorry
13:57:22scorchei am not...i dont go into flyspray much
13:57:43scorchewhat did you need to test?
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13:58:33Zagorscorche: log in and create a new task. you won't be able to select severity, but your task should still get one
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13:59:04Zagor(tasks without severity show the "Undefined index: 0" php error)
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14:14:14pixelmaa bit off-topic but I found it slightly amusing to see someone carrying his instrument in one of these http://www.rockbag.de on my way home yesterday...
14:14:40peturrockbagofshit ?
14:15:27B4gderI like how only the german flag is clickable ;-)
14:15:32JdGordonpetur: you get that vid uploaded anywhere yet?
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14:16:05peturnope it somehow failed without giving an error - work for tonight I guess
14:16:22JdGordonbittorrent it
14:17:18peturB4gder: come to think of it, we should have all signed one of the t-shirts and e-bayed it too
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14:17:43B4gderI wish we would be better at using our brains!
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14:18:01B4gderhey
14:18:15*B4gder noticed the flyspray mails now show what actually changed
14:18:27petur\o/
14:18:28B4gderlike "Severity: Medium -> Low"
14:19:57scorcheZagor: sorry...had a few things to do...some now
14:20:10scorcheerrr...done
14:21:25Zagorscorche: excellent, thanks
14:22:04scorcheZagor: also, if it isnt too much trouble, can you delete both scorche and scorchee so i can make a clean registration as scorche again? (flyspray didnt like me_
14:23:13ZagorI only found (and deleted) scorchee
14:23:46scorchescorche never got his confirmation code, yet it will not let me re-register as him
14:23:57Zagoraha. i'll look in the database.
14:24:23GodEateris there any word on how our GSoC people are progressing ?
14:25:01peturmy student is very quiet
14:25:31peturaustriancoder: I've resumed work on h300 usbotg stack ;)
14:26:02scorcheGodEater: technically, the coding isnt supposed to start yet (although ou can)...they should be communicating and getting to know the community atm
14:26:13austriancoderpetur: interesting.. any source?
14:26:26peturaustriancoder: he who gets his usb stack working first gets the money, ok? :p
14:26:34B4gderhaha
14:26:46austriancoderhmmm...
14:26:50peturhow's that for some pressure
14:26:53*B4gder starts downloading usb stacks... ;-P
14:26:58peturoh oh
14:27:06peturdamn competition
14:27:36B4gderwell, strictly speaking mrh already did a "usb stack"
14:27:48scorcheGodEater: google's date for the official time to start coding is listed as May 28th
14:27:48B4gderalthough dead simple
14:28:01GodEaterah ha
14:28:17austriancoderpetur: i will start a wiki page on it at thursday..
14:28:27peturgood
14:28:52peturfirst set out the target before even evaluating stacks
14:29:09*petur loves small and simple code
14:29:17*austriancoder too
14:29:31peturgood, so no problems on that front
14:29:34Zagorscorche: registrations deleted. try again now.
14:29:59*JdGordon hopes someone will be able to get a ftdi usb-serial port driver going in rockbox
14:30:25B4gderyou mean for debugging etc?
14:30:44*petur minimizes webclient and gets productive (but not for rockbox :( )
14:30:57scorcheZagor: it worked...thank you
14:30:57austriancoderwould be cool
14:31:06JdGordonno, I have a usb char lcd display I want to hook up to the h300
14:32:02B4gderI think a USB/serial driver allowing gdb on target would rock
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14:33:11peturwell the philips stack I'm porting to h300 doesn't have a serial class driver but that shouldn't be the most dificult part of the port I think
14:33:45petur(link/file is at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsbOnTheGoSupport )
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14:34:28JdGordonwhat about a HID class?
14:34:42JdGordonusb keyboard/ homebrew remoes would be fun
14:35:02peturhid class driver is in it ;)
14:35:27peturas well as printer (pcl I think), sound and storage
14:35:40peturhook up that laserjet :)
14:36:00B4gderyay, at last!
14:36:02B4gder:-P
14:36:09peturprintbox!
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14:39:03BartounetHi
14:39:07JdGordonthe video lcd driver isnt fast enough for the peakmeters... how is a inkjet priner goin to keep up?
14:39:39BartounetI have a question... When I install a theme, i havnt the same thing like screenshot in "now playing"
14:39:54lexyou mean the font?
14:40:14BartounetAll
14:40:19BartounetColors are changed
14:40:35BartounetBut i always have basical theme in now playing
14:40:39lextoo old rockbox or wrong version of the theme? ;o
14:40:48petur1) make sure you unzip it completely 2) make sure you have the fontpackage installed
14:41:06BartounetThese 2 things are ok =)
14:41:17petur3) browse theme and not wps
14:41:32BartounetThat's ok too
14:41:51*petur wants only easy issues today
14:42:34BartounetDaily fonts or rockbox fonts ?
14:42:41scorche4) make sure there are no errors in the theme you downloaded
14:42:50Bartouneti tried with many themes
14:43:11scorchedoes it always look like the default WPS?
14:43:35BartounetIt's just on now playing's screen
14:44:37GodEaterBartounet: where are you unzipping them to ?
14:44:43BartounetOn the root
14:44:55peturexample theme that fails?
14:45:29BartounetI don't understand
14:45:35GodEaterBartounet: can you tell us what folder structure it has unzipped ?
14:45:44peturgtg
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14:45:59GodEaterBartounet: also tell us a theme you have tried which does not work
14:46:07BartounetMany...
14:46:28BartounetCurrently on dockpod aqua
14:46:46GodEaterwhere did you download it from ?
14:46:54Bartounetrockbox themes
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14:49:36GodEaterThe theme appears to be broken
14:50:33GodEaterhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g#DockPod_GeoffStokes_s_Fixed_Vers <−− Try that version
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14:51:19w1ll14m|workhi all :)
14:51:38GodEaterBartou: The version of DockpodAqua at rockbox-themes.org is broken
14:51:48BartouArf >_<
14:52:00B4gderredbrava should have a button to report broken themes with
14:52:04w1ll14m|workdoes any one still has this pdf doc ? http://portalplayer.com/products/documents/5020_Brief_0108_Public.pdf
14:52:15w1ll14m|workit looks like nvidia took over portalplayer
14:52:24B4gdernvidia has a few of them around
14:52:55B4gderor they used to at least
14:53:03w1ll14m|workhmmm i check again, but i couldn't find it there.... they have some info of the pp5024
14:53:40w1ll14m|workbut even then, there are no technical specs in there :|
14:53:43B4gderyes, I don't seem to be able to find it now either
14:54:00B4gderright, those briefs are rather useless
14:54:29GodEaterBartou: download the fixed version from the rockbox wiki WPS pages
14:54:30w1ll14m|workhmmm i should made a copy back then ....
14:54:53BartouOk i'll try
14:55:04GodEaterI've just downloaded it and it works perfectly well
14:55:21BartouOk
14:55:31BartouBut the problem is the same with all the themes :s
14:55:51B4gdereh, not if that one works
14:56:15B4gderthen it is just a problem with all the themes that are broken!
14:56:20BartouxD
14:56:21w1ll14m|worklol i'm searching through 700Gbytes of data (to find the pp502x docs)
14:56:31GodEatereither fix them yourself, or ask the person that created them to do it
14:56:36w1ll14m|workthat could take a while....
14:56:39BartouOk, i'll try :)
14:56:40BartouThx
14:56:53B4gderw1ll14m|work: calling it "docs" is surely to appreciate that piece of nothing a bit too much ;-)
14:57:01GodEaterbut the specific one you mentioned DOES work if you get it from our WPS pages
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14:57:50w1ll14m|workb4gder: hehehe :) do you have a better name... i can't call it a piece of paper (as it's not some sort of paper)
14:57:59JdGordonZagor: you changed 7191(e200 bl bug) from medium to low, was that a test? or...? imo its not a low proi bug....
14:58:47*w1ll14m|work hates his iSCSI drive
14:58:58w1ll14m|workdarn, it's corrupt again :|
14:59:02w1ll14m|workso here the search stops
14:59:03ZagorJdGordon: I changed severity, not priority
14:59:29ZagorI changed all new entries, because the severity field was not limited
14:59:35BartouB4gder ! Thx that works =)
14:59:59Zagorafaik we don't use the severity field, so setting it to a nonstandard value is just confusing
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15:00:07BartouGodEater too thx =)
15:00:23JdGordonk
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15:20:50Nico_PI've reimplemented FS #6393... is it wanted ? to I need to credit "ipodfoo" ? does anyone know his real name ?
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15:25:05B4gderpersonally, I don't care either way
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15:34:31Nico_PB4gder: what do you mean ? no need to credit ?
15:35:00JdGordonB4gder: you really want t get as many devs in one plce for 08?
15:35:02B4gderI mean I don't care for the feature
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15:35:33B4gderJdGordon: yes, i think a single devcon is better than separate ones
15:35:45Nico_PI'll just post my version on the entry and see later
15:35:51ZagorNico_P: for such a small patch it is not necessary to waste a lot of time with detective work
15:36:05B4gderespecially when Nico_P rewrote the code
15:36:10Zagorexactly
15:36:11JdGordonbut with the dev team split so much? a 16hour flight for a few days event is worth it?
15:36:24B4gderJdGordon: most people won't have 16 hour flights
15:36:26*JdGordon talking usa<->eu
15:36:40B4gderand of course the "worth" part is up to each and everyone
15:36:54*JdGordon is suddenly motivated to get a job :p
15:37:46Nico_PB4gder: the plane ticket funding should probably depend on the flight's cost
15:37:50ZagorJdGordon: not even west-costers get 16 hours flying time
15:38:04B4gderand I didn't even say we need to have it in eu
15:38:07Nico_Pabout the patch, I think I'll just commit then
15:38:55Zagorhere's a fun flight distance page: http://www.etn.nl/distanc4.htm
15:39:12scorcheJdGordon: i wouldnt mind going just for a weekend, but i would likely see about making it a bit longer with a few others and explore a bit
15:40:29*JdGordon thinks webcam + skype is so much simpler :p
15:40:54B4gderand IRC is simpler than that
15:41:00*scorche thinks face-to-face is more fun
15:41:01JdGordontyping is annoying though
15:41:14JdGordonbut yeah...
15:41:24B4gderthere's a big diff to seeing people for real
15:41:52Zagorthe devcon meetings are really way beyond any irc or skype meeting
15:42:14*aliask finally got around to donating to rockbox - hope it makes a difference :)
15:42:22amiconnJdGordon: The video lcd driver *is* fast enough for peakmeters, I've now verified that myself
15:42:44JdGordonoh cool :)
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15:44:10*JdGordon goes searching for when he big metal concerts in europe are and figures ou how to set dates for devcon08 around them :D
15:44:42amiconnIt could be better (it's a bit jerky) but playback doesn't stutter, at least without eq and stuff (but playing 320kbps mp3)
15:44:44B4gderwe can provide a big metal pile for you otherwise
15:45:43Nico_Pwow oscilloscope is much better than before on the gigabeat... I suppose it's the LCD driver speedup
15:46:01Nico_PI think the peakmeter benifited from it too, that's what made me think of it
15:46:25JdGordonamiconn: you said viewports was disucssed at the con... what was talked bout?
15:47:41scorcheJdGordon: a shame there isnt SAMA anymore...i would have liked to go to one of those
15:48:24JdGordoncould 2147483634 be an address on a pc? friends got this odd value and thinks it is, but I rekon it couldnt be
15:49:09B4gdera physical?
15:49:19B4gderthen sure, a "pc" can have lots of mem
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15:49:34B4gderbut an ordinary process hardly has that much mem
15:49:46ender`i'm back - finally
15:50:01ZagorJdGordon: 2147483634 is 7FFFFFF2
15:50:03B4gder7FFFFFF2 looks more like -14
15:50:04JdGordonB4gder: thats why i figured it wasnt... but its a crash, so who knows :p
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15:52:11ender`B4gder: i upgraded gcc to 4.1.2 on my server, so you can reactivate simulator builds
15:52:23B4gdergoodie
15:53:01ender`(and hopefully i won't have such downtime again)
15:54:06B4gderno worries, that's one of the benefits of the amount of servers we have now
15:54:17B4gderwe can deal with occational ones dropping off
15:54:50B4gderZagor: the www.rockbox.org builds are even more broken now ;-O
15:55:35ZagorI'll put back the newer binutils
15:55:50B4gderI've disabled sdl on that host now
15:56:07B4gderp a i n
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15:58:12ender`i know i will have another downtime in about a month, when i switch to FTTH, but that one should be a few hours
15:58:38B4gderthe script deals with "dead" servers automatically anyway
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16:00:24cropNico_P: here?
16:00:28Nico_Pcrop: yes
16:00:57cropNico_P: Fk should be dynamic, no?
16:01:29Nico_Pno, it depends on the file
16:02:03cropNico_P: why is Ff dynamic then?
16:02:07*amiconn wants ftth :(
16:02:20cropNico_P: I mean, Ff and Fk should be the same
16:02:34Nico_PAh I see what you mean... stupid mistake on my part... thanks
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16:08:55StygianHiho all. I've a question.
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16:10:01StygianTo install RB on an 80GB iPod (g5.5), I apparently need to install both rockbox and a custom bootloader with a patch applied.
16:10:10StygianHow would I go about applying the patch to a bootloader?
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16:10:21B4gderStygian: you apply the patch the source code
16:10:23B4gderthen build
16:10:31B4gderuh, to source code
16:12:22StygianAh, now I see. Just found the appropriate wiki page. Ta
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16:18:21Stygianbah. Tired. I'll do this tomorrow.
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16:25:40JdGordonyay :) xmas tree build table again
16:25:47JdGordonmuch more interesting than green
16:25:53lex:D
16:26:10B4gderxmas is fun!
16:28:53Cassandra*sigh* Someone didn't get the message re copyrighted WPSes.
16:29:06CassandraNow I wonder if I can find some kittens to drown for an encore.
16:29:56daurnimatorJoshHulst around?
16:34:03B4gderhe's usually "jhulst" iirc
16:37:41daurnimatoriirc = in internet relay chat
16:37:43daurnimator;)
16:38:17B4gderno as in "iirc is really confusing" ;-)
16:38:36B4gderrecursive ones are more fun
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16:39:15bluebrotherwas that the guy who posted the other rockamp themes as well?
16:39:44CassandraNo idea.
16:41:01bluebrothermaybe a moderated theme site would be better.
16:41:05*ender` yawns
16:42:17CassandraPossibly.
16:42:31pondlifeWho runs rockbox-themes?
16:42:52pondlifehttp://www.rockbox-themes.org/ I mean
16:43:02daurnimatoryamum
16:43:08*daurnimator is out: cyas
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16:44:08pondlifeHmm, I suppose that's stuffed full of copyright problems.
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16:44:38pondlifeI see several 20th Centiry Fox-ish graphics.
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16:44:56Cassandrapondlife: I believe so.
16:45:48CassandraBut since it's not run by Rockbox, it's not our problem.
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17:33:43bluebrothera non-sweden devcon? Hmm ... liked the idea of sweden next year pretty much
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17:34:06nardulGood afternoon
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17:35:02nardulAnyone feel like telling me a bit about rockbox?
17:35:15bluebrotherwhat do you mean with "telling a bit"?
17:35:39nardulhehe, well, i'm considering buying an ipod, and i want to know how rockbox works on it.
17:36:00bluebrotherit works.
17:36:01nardulNot i read the "faq", and under one unit it said "it works as well as on any other ipod"
17:36:21nardulbluebrother, But are there any downsides? Apart from battery life. 10 hours is enough for me.
17:36:22bluebrotherIpods still have have a major power consuption issue
17:36:27nardulThat i heard
17:36:52nardulAnd can i make it work as a removeable harddrive?
17:36:54bluebrotherwell, it depends on what exactly you want. AppleOS doesn't turn of the Ipod but uses a deep sleep state
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17:37:08bluebrotherRockbox currently doesn't do this, so startup is somewhat slower
17:37:19nardulokay
17:37:45bluebrotheralso, as it hasn't been released yet (for Ipods) it's still somewhat glitchy.
17:38:02bluebrotherit basically works, and I prefer Rockbox on my mini :)
17:38:10nardulhehe
17:38:18david1is there a place where i can buy a new gigabeat f40?
17:38:27bluebrotheraccessories also don't work.
17:38:39nardulbluebrother, I need a bigger one though, but can i plug it in through USb and use it as a harddrive?
17:38:49nardulNot an issue. Only music and podcasts.
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17:39:38toffe82david1: where are you from ? normally you can find them on Ebay US
17:39:40bluebrotherCurrently there isn't a usb mode in Rockbox, so you need to reboot the Apple's disk mode.
17:39:52nardulbluebrother, Does that require anything?
17:39:54david1austria
17:39:59bluebrotherbut in that mode you can access it as external hard drive.
17:40:10cablesThis is the only CGI web IRC client I can find, is there one with which I can connect to other channels?
17:40:18bluebrotherdavid1: that player isn't in production anymore. Check http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide
17:40:26nardulbluebrother, Awesome, do audiofiles have any index, or do i just drag and drop?
17:40:29peturcables: ircatwork
17:40:39toffe82david1: I don't think you can find it in Europ, you have to find a seller on Ebay US who shipp international
17:40:49peturcables: http://ircatwork.com/
17:40:59bluebrothernardul: you can simply drag and drop (but AppleOS won't work with them, unless you sync with itunes)
17:41:12cablespetur, thanks, the Java client at java.freenode.net doesn't work on this machine :)
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17:41:40nardulbluebrother, Thank god for rockbox. You wouldn't happen to be a dev or summat would you?
17:41:41*petur has more of a firewallatwork problem
17:41:57bluebrotherhehe ... firewallatwork.com?
17:42:27bluebrothernardul: I did some work on the manual, haven't found the time to dig into Rockbox coding yet. But it's planned :)
17:43:07*amiconn wonders whether petur will come up with a bagof..., rock... or ...box combination :P
17:43:13*petur had to look up 'summat'
17:43:28peturfirewallbox?
17:43:36nardulbluebrother, I was just wondering what i was gonna do with all my spare time, and it seemed like rockbox seemed like a good idea.
17:44:40*bluebrother failed to find out the exact meaning of "summat"
17:44:46peturnardul: you're a programmer?
17:44:51bluebrothernardul: feel free to join the fun :)
17:44:55nardul"something"
17:45:16nardulpetur, No, only very basically, but my english is excellent, and danish i, well, native language.
17:45:16*petur followed the first link google provided: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=summat
17:45:18david1<xy
17:46:02*bluebrother tried reference.com (after the translator) only
17:47:57bluebrothernardul: then you might want to read the "For Developers" section at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DocsIndex to get an idea
17:48:22nardulOkay, thank you. I will. Looks like i'm buying an ipod on your advice then :)
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17:49:40bluebrotheryou might also want to check the device comparisons on the wiki to help your decision ;-)
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17:50:31nardulYeah, i'm gonna go hunt for an ipod video, not the late version
17:50:40nardulLooks like rthte best support, with good battery, of 10 hours
17:51:37bluebrotherRockbox runs much better on the Coldfire devices −− iriver h100 and h300 series, and iaudio
17:51:44amiconnThe 80GB will soon be supported
17:51:46bluebrotherunfortunately they are out of production
17:52:01*simmel mumbles something about his X5L's 35hrs of battery time *
17:52:04nardulbluebrother, hmm,what sizes are they?
17:52:09simmelAccording to specs that is though.
17:52:17*nardul curses simmel.
17:52:18peturwasn't that M5 ?
17:52:19*amiconn wonders when LinusN and linuxstb will show up
17:52:32simmelI've never mesured it. But I charge it about once a month.
17:52:54peturheh, I uses my player more I think
17:53:19bluebrotherI think the biggest x5 is 60GB
17:53:31amiconnyup
17:53:44amiconnBut the X5L only goes up to 30GB
17:53:55peturpfff my iriver 340 now has 80GB :p
17:54:12nardulpetur, And the rockbox support is good?
17:54:20peturperfect, what else
17:54:24nardulhehe
17:54:25petur;)
17:54:35nardulWhat do you mean "now" has 80gb?
17:54:46peturdisk and battery upgrade
17:54:52peturby me
17:54:55nardulokay, expensive?
17:55:02peturit is yes
17:55:32nardulVery?
17:55:44nardulbtw, is there radio on it? And does it work in RB?
17:55:56peturso ipod 80GB would be cheaper unless you found an h340 with dead disk/battery for almost no money
17:56:04peturh3x0 has radio
17:56:15nardulThat works in rockbox?
17:57:21petursure
17:57:23nardulhmm, can't find any 3x0 series apparently
17:57:32peturhard to find, yes
17:57:39peturunfortunately
17:57:45peturI like it very much
17:57:46nardulIRiver U10 (2 GB) i found though.
17:57:51nardulWhat did yyou pay?
17:58:10petur400 euro I think (2 years ago almost)
17:58:28nardulhmm, it works in disk mode right?
17:58:33peturyes
17:58:52nardulSounds like what i want. How did you get it to 80gb's ?
17:59:25peturbuy an mk8007gah disk for it, also becoming hard to find :(
17:59:36narduldamn, okay
17:59:48nardulSounds like i might buy a 30/60 gb ipod
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18:00:18peturyou're at least half a year too late for an h380
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18:01:24nardulokay, i'll be back with fruther talk about things i assume, now, food!
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18:08:20CelticSoulguys, what's the largest capacity mp3 player now?
18:08:41bluebrotherI guess a modded archos device with 160GB hard disk
18:08:57CelticSoulmy ipod 60b is running out of disk space
18:09:00bluebrotherbut if you mean available for purchase, I think the Ipod 80GB
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18:09:48CelticSoulany idea about the sound quality of archos?
18:11:06bluebrotherarchos is old, you will only get them used, and they only play mp3
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18:19:33mpeccoriniI'm getting an error when #including "pluginlib_actions.h" to a new .c file I added to chessbox. Make says it doesn't have a rule to make target "pluginlib_actions.h". Any idea why this could be?
18:19:34mpeccoriniof course I'm #including other .h files without problems
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18:21:30Joelympeccorini, you have to play with makefiles and SOURCES file in order to compile
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18:32:12mpeccoriniJoely: I'm not exactly a makefile guru. But since the ".h" file is #include'd I wouldn't expect it to be compiled by itself, it should be added to the file I'm including it in and then the whole thing should be compiled
18:32:28mpeccoriniright?
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18:34:00towliebanive got a 1st gen ipod mini that i want to put rockbox on. is rockbox stable on this ipod ?
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18:35:44bluebrothermostly.
18:35:48bluebrothercheck the IpodFAQ
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18:36:42towliebanok im reading it now
18:37:21towliebanbut just to be sure, if i use rockbox, can i add files using my own own structure with a folder for the artist name, then album name etc...
18:37:38preglowyes
18:37:45towliebanok cool
18:40:16towliebanare any creative mp3 players supported ?
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18:41:01towliebani have an ipod mini and a creative nomad jukebox 2. id prefer to install rockbox on the nomad jukebox cause its got a 40GB hard drive in it
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18:43:33bluebrothertowlieban: only the players listed at the front page are supported −− so no creative players yet
18:43:34desowintowlieban: there's no port to creative players yet
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18:52:17nardulI wonder how i can order a specific ipod. Best write someone an email
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18:52:51towliebanoh too bad... my ipod mini is only 4GB but my creative has a 40GB hard drive in it
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18:54:29webguest33Where do i get Roms from
18:54:34webguest33for rockboy
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18:55:08towliebanwebguest33
18:55:17webguest33wat
18:55:18towliebanwhere do you get the emulators from
18:55:25webguest33i dont know
18:55:32bluebrotherwebguest33: we do not support the distributon of game files
18:55:37webguest33ok
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18:55:44bluebrotheras they are usually copyright protected.
18:56:00webguest48lo
18:56:02bluebrotherwell ... wanted to say that he might look for homebrew roms
18:56:06towliebanbluebrother where can i get the gameboy emulator for rockbox from ?
18:56:15bluebrotherit's part of the build
18:56:31towliebanoh it s built in ?
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18:56:54bluebrotherit's a viewer plugin. It's not part of Rockbox as of the core, but it's part of the distribution
18:57:19bluebrothercheck the manual −− everything that's described in the manual is part of the official build.
18:57:26towliebansorry but what do you mean a viewer plugin ? is it a fully functional gameboy emulator ?
18:57:58krazykitmore or less, yes. the controls can be kind of crummy, depending on the player
18:58:03bluebrother"viewer" in that context means that it works differently: you don't start the plugin itself, but "open" a rom file
18:58:17bluebrothersimilar to opening a jpg file for viewing −− the viewer itself is also a plugin
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19:01:40webguest48do u guys know of any websites with addons for rockdoom
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19:03:37webguest48wad files for prboom (ROCKDOOM)?
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19:09:26bluebrotherwebguest48: search the web −− I prefer playing music :)
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19:09:28The-CompilerHi
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19:16:56peturwebguest48: stop that
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19:18:52a1titudeI know this will be somewhere in the manual or the wiki, but I can but how do I compile a patched version of rockbox
19:19:13Bagderthe same way you build a normal rockbox
19:19:21peturhahaha
19:19:25a1titudeahh I was still going thourgh proff reading that I hit enter too soon! haha
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19:20:01peturhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DocsIndex#For_Developers
19:20:11*Bagder goes to put kids to bed
19:20:17a1titudethanks, I coulden't find it on site...
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19:20:25webguest49you people are sooo cool
19:20:27webguest49like omg
19:20:31webguest49i love u
19:20:35peturjust add 'working with patches' to the reading list ;)
19:20:41webguest49ok i will
19:20:43webguest49petur
19:20:49webguest49i hate you
19:20:56webguest49your a dumb peace or mother fuckin shit ass hole
19:21:04a1titudepot says to the kettle...
19:21:11webguest49fuck you
19:21:15*petur is not a kettle
19:21:18Bagderwebguest49: what's your problem?
19:21:20webguest49aaron richman says fuck you
19:21:24Mode"#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
19:21:24badsheepybut i bet you make a nice cup of tea :)
19:21:42webguest49you are my problem
19:21:43webguest49bitch
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19:21:47webguest49hore
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19:22:13Mode"#rockbox +b #rockbox!*@* " by Bagder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder)
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19:22:19Bagderoops
19:22:34Mode"#rockbox -b #rockbox!*@* " by Bagder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder)
19:22:36*petur polishes boots of Bagder
19:22:49Mode"#rockbox -b Fogles!*@* " by Bagder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder)
19:23:07Mode"#rockbox -o Bagder " by Bagder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder)
19:23:16Bagderbut now I'm leaving
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19:36:11a1titudepetur: the youtube hasn't finished prosessing yet! ? haha it should be long done by now
19:36:29peturI know
19:36:52a1titudethats really wierd...
19:36:55peturI hope to try again in an hour or so, first got some other stuff to do
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19:41:05mpeccoriniFellows, I'm getting an error when #including "pluginlib_actions.h" to a new .c file I added to chessbox. Make says it doesn't have a rule to make target "pluginlib_actions.h". Any idea why this could be?
19:42:20bluebrotheris that file in the include path?
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19:44:41FOADMy H340 keeps recharging, then when it's full and I change to rockbox mode it'll claim the battery's empty
19:44:44FOAD:/
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19:50:06peturnah, he's dead
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19:55:05peturFOAD: and if you just reconnect in OF, it charges again?
19:55:30peturor charge in rockbox and look at the level when connecting/disconnecting the charger
19:56:19peturdid you do something recently or has this been starting for some time
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20:00:51FOADpetur: I updated rockbox.
20:01:07peturthat's it?
20:01:13FOADYeah.
20:01:15peturjust unzipped a new version?
20:01:28FOADAnd updated the boot thing.
20:01:43peturversion 5?
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20:02:27FOADUhm, it was a few days ago, the daily build.
20:02:44peturI mean the bootloader version
20:03:25FOADI don't know.
20:04:36FOADI got it fresh, too.
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20:06:45peturmaybe try flashing it again
20:07:03FOADOk...
20:07:26peturwith charger connected!
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20:13:50mpeccorinibluebrother: thanks buddy, that solved the problem. I can't believe I was so stupid not to think about that
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20:40:32Nico_Pbluebrother: I ='m thinking about committing your zezayer RWPS (FS #5098)
20:42:57bluebrotherNico_P: have you checked the look? I somewhat remember that I wanted to do a small change before committing
20:43:27Nico_Pthere was a small syntax error on line 4 I had to correct
20:43:41bluebrotherbut I'm not sure what exactly was it −− no time to look into it yet
20:44:13bluebrotherbut feel free to commit, I can change it later (if it's still an issue)
20:44:23Nico_POK
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20:44:59bluebrothermain problem is that I'm *still* busy with my thesis at uni. Hopefully not much longer.
20:45:13bluebrotherlots of stuff on my todo for rockbox :o
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20:48:02Buschelhi guys, what about some discussion about power saving with ipod video (5g)
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20:49:11element_ghi, do you have some suggetions, or you asking about what you as a user can do?
20:49:49Buschelquestions for a home-programmer :)
20:50:19element_gah, cool, but I can't help I don't know the code :(
20:50:46Buschele.g. in PP0520.h there are defined several components (ATA, LCD, FIREWIRE). i cannot see there are any of these components switched off
20:51:42element_gYou're on the right track, I know the dev's think that there is a leak somewhere, meaning that something is left on.
20:52:39Buschelfor Sansa E200 there was a patch (#7036) which switched off ATA between accesses and also switched off LCD when backlight is off
20:53:17element_gyup heard of those,
20:53:31element_ghttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IrcNicks
20:53:31element_ghttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/KnowledgeMap
20:53:41element_gshould give you some idea who to talk to
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20:54:37Buschelgotta ping one of them
20:55:57element_gI suppose either Bagder, LinusN, (core) linuxstb, barrywardell(iPod) are the people you're most interested in
20:57:04Buschelbarry doesnt seem to be online right now
20:58:34*barrywardell is here
20:58:41*petur kicks youtube
20:59:02Nico_Ppetur: dailymoton ! :)
20:59:32peturI'll give it some more time before using your suggestion, maybe it comes up this time
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21:01:14a1titudepetur: still no luck with youtube I take it
21:01:20bluebrotherstill no video up yet?
21:01:59peturit does seem to know about it now so maybe it's still processing
21:02:13*petur is doing some e-bay stuff right now :)
21:02:47linihey guys, I am trying to test FS #6549. I made a rockbox build and a bootloader build.
21:03:06lininow, to put it on my 5g 30gb ipod.. do I use the normal ipodpatcher.exe?
21:03:52bluebrotheryes.
21:04:02liniok
21:04:13bluebrotheryou can tell ipodpatcher to install a custom bootloader
21:04:16bluebrothertry −−help
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21:06:19bluebrotherBagder: around?
21:07:32peturhe's still reading stories to the kids, it doesn't get dark over there early these days... ;)
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21:20:55*bluebrother wonders if there is any news regarding that youtube video
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21:23:17peturyes
21:23:37peturI hereby officially declare that youtube is a bagofshit
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21:24:21peturI found a status on both my trials and it just says 'failed'
21:24:51bluebrothergreat :)
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21:26:40peturtrying dailymotion now
21:27:20*petur retrieves registration mail from his spamfilter :)
21:28:41peturuploading...
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21:35:23peturoh crap
21:35:53peturI think I'll first re-encode them, upload is failing here as well :(
21:36:24bluebrothercan't you just put it online somewhere?
21:38:13peturthese mjpegs are just too big, must make 'm smaller
21:39:20amiconnmjpeg isn't really suitable for distribution.
21:40:05amiconnNot sure what these video services support though, never used one so far
21:40:53peturI think I've uploaded mjpeg to youtube before... not 100% sure though
21:42:41markunI made it!
21:42:45markun:)
21:42:51peturwow
21:43:13XavierGrmade what markun?
21:43:33peturhomebox
21:43:34markunI gave my keys to someone else to bring in the mail, but was not there when I came home
21:43:38markunrockhome
21:43:46peturlol
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21:44:41fairwaygood evening
21:44:54fairwaywhich player does support wav recording ? (44khz uncompressed 16bit)
21:45:15XavierGrwell welcome home then markun :D
21:45:38bluebrotherall players that support recording with rockbox.
21:46:06fairwaybluebrother: in particular?
21:46:14fairwaythe cowon ones?
21:46:23bluebrotherI think so.
21:46:30fairwaymy iaudio u3 does only support wma
21:46:40markunfairway: we love WMA!
21:46:50peturfairway: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide
21:47:06fairwayreally`?
21:47:07bluebrotherRockbox doesn't support the u3.
21:47:38bluebrothersure. We are absolutely convinced of that format and eagerly await supporting it *g*
21:47:39fairwaywhat means (via subpack) ?
21:49:33fairwaycould I record to wav from linein or radio?
21:49:40fairwaywih the iaudio x5
21:49:50Bagderyes, line-in via subpack
21:50:39bluebrotherhmm. That page has an error.
21:50:50bluebrotherh100 and h300 don't need additional hardware for recording.
21:51:10BagderI don't see it claim that
21:51:21bluebrotherBagder: I created a small JavaScript to "correct" the value of the FS entry box.
21:51:26peturI see it
21:51:34bluebrotherhttp://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/fssearchbox-strip.diff
21:51:39Bagderah now I see
21:52:00bluebrotherIt hardcodes the items to change, but I think it's sufficient
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21:52:49Bagdergreat
21:53:04BagderI'll try it tomorrow, I'm having an early night tonight
21:53:16bluebrotherI tried with a local page and it worked fine. You can now even type FS#xyz :)
21:53:29bluebrothercool
21:53:35peturh10 also has line-in?
21:54:13bluebrothermaybe that line regarding the recording input should be split up ...
21:54:56peturah well, quick fix for now
21:55:23fairwayi think the original firmware of the iaudio x5 only supports wma recording, is this correct?
21:55:40Bagderfairway: we don't care much for original firmwares here
21:56:52fairwayi was just wondering
21:58:01BagderI'm just explaining that you're not too likely to get an answer
21:58:55amiconnX5 OF only records to mp3 iirc
21:59:21fairwaythank you amiconn
21:59:35Bagderrecording to wma sounds like an unusual feature actually
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22:07:47*amiconn now knows why the irc reader script fails in IE
22:08:32amiconnUnfortunately Zagor isn't around
22:09:01bluebrotherthe script fails in ie? How good I don't use it ;-)
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22:13:44XavierGrrockbox reference on dig
22:13:53XavierGrhttp://www.wired.com/software/coolapps/news/2007/05/playogg
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22:17:10bluebrotheroh, one can add ogg support to itunes? Nice.
22:17:16bluebrothermight interest some users ;-)
22:19:56FOADShame it's a bit inaccurate about Rockbox on the Nano.
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22:21:11bluebrotheryeah, but anybody reading up that far should be able reading thr Rockbox homepage as well ;-)
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22:21:43FOADWell yes. But wrong is wrong.
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22:34:53ghostrunner87are there any plans to make rockbox workable on 2nd gen ipod nanos?
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22:37:59Nico_PBagder: have you seen the build table ?
22:38:22ghostrunner87yes.
22:38:39p3turfollowing link should soon list 6 devcon collectibles: http://search-desc.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&catref=C6&from=R10&_trksid=m37&satitle=devcon2007&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&fts=2&floc=1&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1&fsoo=1
22:38:50Nico_Pghostrunner87: there is no way of planning when someone will find the solution for the nano 2G
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22:39:39Nico_Pp3tur: haha these empty bottle beers will soon become relics :)
22:39:58Ganeshcan someone help me, i think i messed up my ipod
22:40:14DerPapstshipping is $72.49? whoo
22:40:23*petur imagines preglow will not like it
22:40:42peturyeah, unless somebody tells me how to ship cheaper....
22:41:03Nico_Pp3tur != petur ?
22:41:03peturI failed to find anything better but I'm open to suggestions
22:41:03Ganeshcan someone help me remove rockbox from my 3rd gen IPOD
22:41:18peturp3tur is on my laptop
22:41:21Nico_Pok
22:41:30petursorry, split personality
22:41:45DerPapsti bet shipping to europe is cheaper..
22:41:52peturyes
22:42:02peturmust find a better way
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22:42:09p3turaye
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22:42:33TrueJournalsWow... you could REALLY confuse someone with that...
22:42:41DerPapstgood night p3tur :P
22:42:58petur'night
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22:45:43Ganeshim guessing no one in here can help me fix my ipod
22:46:54PaulJamdoesn't the manual describe the unistall process?
22:48:01PaulJamoh, i didn't read you first comment. what did you do that messed up your ipod?
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22:52:41Ganeshi think i fixed it
22:52:56bluebrotherwhoa? 30EUR for shipping to germany? :(
22:53:05Ganeshfor some reason the patcher program wasnt recognizing my ipod
22:53:28Ganeshi think i was also trying to hit select play instead of select menu to enter disk mode
22:53:51Ganeshbut its better now
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22:53:53DerPapstbluebrother: you could make a small trip to belgiuM ;)
22:54:45DerPapstGanesh: Menu + Slelect = Reset, Select + >|| = DiskMode.
22:55:25DerPapstAnd << + Select is DiagnosticMode ;)
22:56:45element_g" Each bottle comes with the smell of beer still inside!" hilarious !
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22:58:34bluebrotherDerPapst: in that case I could have made the trip to devcon in the first case. Only ... no time and no money. A month later it could have worked :(
22:58:46peturlast try: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1SJrLYtCh4 - maybe it'll be online soon
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22:59:39DerPapstah.
22:59:57bluebrotherworked. Cooooool :)
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23:00:38DerPapstthe video is soo coool
23:01:12TrueJournalsgreat....
23:01:17DerPapstbut the qualitiy...
23:01:22*DerPapst blames youtube
23:01:36*TrueJournals blames the camera/resizing
23:04:26*DerPapst remebers kissyoutube.com...
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23:24:40Nico_Pthe vid is awesome :)
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23:32:10XavierGrlol Linus and Cassandra in action! :)
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23:32:33TrueJournalsI'm looking at FS #6705 and linuxstb seems to have great improvement "With the two .S files and the synth_full function removed from IRAM"... Can anyone help me figure out how to do this?
23:33:29saratogaanyone here who can answer an ARM question for me?
23:34:45Joely1saratoga, what's your question? you want specific arm assembly, knowledge of which core, etc
23:35:49saratogai'm trying to understand what this does
23:35:59saratogamvnr0, #-2147483648
23:36:18saratogasorry, should be a space between mvn and r0
23:38:29saratogaI guess it sets a status flag if r0 != -2147483648 ?
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23:40:00homieloweawsome devcon video posted on youtube by petur, You guys a little goosy loosy by that pile of empty bottles http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=peturbox
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23:56:11TrueJournalsWould putting something in IRAM have something to do with ".section .icode,"ax",%progbits"?
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