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#rockbox log for 2007-06-22

00:00:47 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net)
00:01:08sjust1216I have a ipod nano clone will rockbox work on it?
00:01:26Bagdermost likely not
00:01:54 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc4-brig8-0-0-cust949.brig.cable.ntl.com)
00:02:18sjust1216ok thanks looked nice wished it would
00:02:48peturhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TargetStatus
00:03:07Bagderhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort ! ;-)
00:03:17peturhaha
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00:04:36 Quit sjust1216 ("Have a nice day")
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00:07:29markunBagder: you scared him away by suggesting him to do actual work!
00:07:34 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
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00:08:43Lars_Git's worse than actual work
00:08:59Lars_Gmost of these clones are just a hyper simplistic mcu wired to a dedicated decoder chip
00:09:08Aloneawow. been ages since I have been on IRC. Hello folks. Anything new these days?
00:09:13Lars_Gtry to get rockbox to work on a 8bit 10Mhz mcu
00:10:09Bagderit is a challenge indeed ;-)
00:10:42Lars_Gwell it'd be partly possible but it'd be the port job of the century
00:10:52Lars_Git's easier to write a rockbox clone from scratch
00:10:58markunAlonea: some pregress with the Gigabeat S is being made
00:11:04markunprogress even
00:11:09Lars_Grun "I can't beleive it's not rockbox" in your "I can't beleive it's not an ipod"
00:11:28Lars_GAnyone got a tip/suggestion for my hal headache?
00:12:19*Bagder walks off to try staying horizontal until morning
00:12:44Aloneamarkun: lol. thats good. I saw the thing for the puzzle mode for jewels. it was interesting. I like how the screen resets if you save, and then come back, but yet score is same. Is the screen supposed to reset?
00:15:05markunI don't know
00:15:12markunnever tried the puzzle mode
00:17:18bluebrotherLars_G: I tried that dcop command, the ipod shows up for me
00:17:53Lars_Gbluebrother: great for you!
00:17:57*Lars_G weeps
00:18:09Lars_GAnd dmesg shows the ipod being recognized
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00:18:42bluebrotherstrange. Maybe it's working because I'm still on dbus 0.62?
00:19:03Aloneamarkun: its interesting. was very confused at first, but I figured out what I was supposed to do.
00:19:05*bluebrother should upgrade his machine in the not-so-far future ...
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00:19:21bluebrotherAlonea: how does the puzzle mode work?
00:19:24Aloneamarkun: whats really funny is how long it took me to figure out what button I was supposed to press for chopper
00:19:36markunAlonea: same here!
00:20:31Aloneabluebrother: there are these special blocks that are either horizontal or vertical. At first there is either 2 or 3. You have to get rid of your jewels as normal until the special blocks line up to go to the next level
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00:21:09bluebrotherah. I should try that later ...
00:21:29pixelmabluebrother: because you worked on the makefile... the error message at the end of building a pdf manual occured with the introduction of the rockboxinfo.txt - any ideas?
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00:22:40bluebrotherpixelma: I found the problem: if you simply "make" you get that message, because the default target "all" triggers the target "info".
00:23:00Aloneabluebrother: but yeah, if you do what I did, and the special blocks end up at the very bottom, just save and come back and it will reset the level without loosing your score
00:23:05bluebrotherif you run "make manual-pdf" instead you don't get that error (as the target "info" won't get triggered)
00:23:05pixelmaah
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00:23:39bluebrotherand the manual makefile tricks the build system a bit to not build the tools folder
00:23:58bluebrotherwhich makes the default target look in the wrong folder.
00:26:07DerPapstthen go and fix the #define(s)
00:26:19DerPapst^ ign
00:27:47bluebrotherI was wondering about that configuration stuff a bit anyway. You can run "make manual" from a (N)ormal configuration ...
00:28:19bluebrotherbut I haven't digged too much into that yet.
00:28:46pixelmayup, I knew that and I think that could be handy (though I don't use it myself)
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00:30:53Robin0800is make tools broken?
00:32:17bluebrotherno −− is it supposed to?
00:32:55bluebrotherpixelma: btw, I'm planning to rename the output file from rockbox-build.pdf to rockbox-<device>.pdf or manual-<device>.pdf
00:33:09bluebrotherdo you think it would be better to use rockbox-* or manual-*?
00:34:24Robin0800bluebrother,tried to build tools to get the new ipod patcher didn't seem to build one i could use
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00:35:25bluebrotherRobin0800: ipodpatcher is now in rbutil/ipodpatcher
00:35:33Konfuzius_Penghello
00:35:49bluebrotherjust cd to that folder and type "make"
00:36:32pixelmabluebrother: hmm... my first thought was "manual-<device>.pdf" could be mistaken for a manual of the OF or a hardware - but didn't think it through
00:37:15bluebrotherwell, I'm somewhat unsure. One could argue that rockbox-*.pdf is clear because of the file type. OTOH, manual-* is somewhat clearer.
00:37:17 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)")
00:37:55bluebrothercurrently, the manual download page uses rockbox-*, so renaming to rockbox-* would go in line with that page.
00:38:27Konfuzius_PengSorry for my bad english. Maybe someone can help me? I have an Ipod Video 80 GB with Rockbox on it. Some Themes dont look correctly, especially in the playing screen. Anyone an idea?
00:38:41bluebrotherKonfuzius_Peng: installed the fonts package?
00:39:17Konfuzius_Pengbluebrother: only the bootloader and rockbox
00:39:23Konfuzius_Pengand a few themes
00:39:31bluebrotherwell, you need to install the fonts package separately.
00:39:34pixelmabluebrother: "rockbox-manual" is probably too long then?
00:39:44Konfuzius_Pengthat could it be, thank you
00:39:59Konfuzius_Pengi will try it now
00:40:08Konfuzius_Pengshuld be on the rockbox website?
00:40:09bluebrotherpixelma: it's a bit lengish, but it shouldn't be a problem.
00:40:20bluebrotherKonfuzius_Peng: follow the "Extras" link on the website
00:40:36bluebrotherand btw, I can really recommend the manual. It tells this, too ;-)
00:40:38pixelmamanualbox.. ;)
00:41:00peturbag of manual
00:41:05bluebrotherpixelma: sounds like "you need to use this box manually" ;-)
00:41:25bluebrotherbom? I know bom as short cut, but not for bag of manual
00:41:37bluebrotheror even "rtfm"? *g*
00:41:47bluebrother"Rockbox −− the fine manual"
00:42:05pixelmartfrbm
00:42:15bluebrotherhehe
00:43:12*DerPapst votes for "rtfm-<device>.pdf"
00:44:14peturI think most of our users do read the manual, so calling rtfm may be a bit hard ;)
00:44:38bluebrotherpetur: the "r" stands for "Rockbox" of course ;-)
00:45:02peturand f for fine... yea yea, sure
00:45:10bluebrother:)
00:45:21Konfuzius_Peng(a manual for surfing on the rockbox website would be nice, too *gg*)
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00:47:00*DerPapst agrees
00:47:23bluebrotherKonfuzius_Peng: well, then you need to browse the website to find that manual in the first place
00:47:27pixelmaKonfuzius_Peng: if explain what trouble you have with it could help making it better
00:47:29Konfuzius_Pengi really like rockbox but i have hd problems finding the software at first time
00:47:30peturcertainly the wiki could use some reorganising
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00:47:34Konfuzius_Penghad
00:47:56bluebrotherwell, the only thing that's a bit troublesome is the wiki IMO
00:48:15bluebrotherthe "download" link could be a bit confusing, though.
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00:48:34Lars_GOk the problem seems to eb in HAL
00:50:05Konfuzius_Peng(i really love rockbox now. First tried on my iRIver ihp-120, but dont need it really. now 3 days ago, ive buyed an ipod. and i was really near suicide. the origiginal ipod software is horrible. have thousands of files and audiobooks and dont want spend 3 years of time for making id3 tags and send it through itunes. and at the end it would be not at the right place, too ;-) )
00:50:23Konfuzius_Peng(you have saved my live with rockbox ;-) )
00:50:39*DerPapst thinks the rb site should use more bold and red (maybe blinking?) text.. and CAPITALS too :P
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00:51:00*bluebrother deleted the OF on his h120 because it is so horrible
00:51:33Konfuzius_Pengi loved the original iriver firmware
00:51:51bluebrotherI hated it that moment I started to use ogg files.
00:51:52Konfuzius_Pengdont wanted rockbox on my iriver
00:52:03Konfuzius_Pengbut on ipod, its completely different.
00:52:13bluebrotherogg support of the iriver fw is really crappy.
00:52:25Konfuzius_Pengi would say, ipod is not useable without Rockbox.
00:52:28bluebrotheryou're aware that Rockbox runs _much_ better on the h120 compared to the Ipod?
00:52:38Konfuzius_Pengespecially the 80 GB version i have
00:52:41peturKonfuzius_Peng: I assume you're not using your h120 for recording?
00:53:00Konfuzius_Pengi want to have files and folders instead of crappy playlists
00:53:29DerPapstKonfuzius_Peng: i like the OF of the iPod pretty much. but i have my mp3s well tagged ;)
00:53:50bluebrotherthe navigation of AppleOS is ... strange ;-)
00:54:09Konfuzius_Pengpetur: no, only a few times. 2 problems. 1st one: recording time is not enough. 2nd: you can hear the harddisk on recordings
00:54:13*DerPapst thinks the same about rockbox sometimes too
00:54:48DerPapstthat's why i'm making some patches for some plugins :P
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00:57:47Konfuzius_Pengand now i cant use my iriver anymore, because i have cracked the lcd ;-((((
00:57:55Konfuzius_Pengthe hardware is stil ok... horrible
00:58:07bluebrotherKonfuzius_Peng: use the voice menus of RB ;-)
00:59:05DerPapstheh true
00:59:24bluebrotheror get someone replace the broken display.
00:59:54bluebrotherthe h100 is really great in terms of hardware.
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01:00:06Konfuzius_Pengi try dto replace it.
01:00:10DerPapstbuy one with a broken hdd from ebay
01:01:35bluebrotherbtw, had anyone success connecting a JTAG to an Ipod?
01:01:39Konfuzius_Pengi have planed to get old with the iriver ( diplay have a very bad resolution but the rest is absolutely 1st class)... but now i have had to buy a new one ...:-( iriver dont answer question regarding a new LCD
01:01:54bluebrotherI was thinking about that for a while, I just don't have the money to get the needed stuff yet
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01:02:22Robin0800bluebrother,made ipodpatcher ok but can't make rbutil like that loads of errors
01:02:41bluebrotherRobin0800: you need wx 2.8 installed
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01:05:07Konfuzius_Peng(wonderful. now my ipod plays the mp3 and i cant stop it or do anything lol)
01:05:37bluebrotheron the Ipod you stop playback by holding the Play / Pause button
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01:05:57pixelmaand that's covered in the fine manual ;)
01:06:22bluebrotherand you can always reset the Ipod by holding Menu + Select (as that is a hardware function)
01:06:31*Llorean still isn't quite able to make a manual
01:06:40Konfuzius_Penghave load the COBALT theme (which dont look correctly, even with fonts), and now the display has freezed and it plays the song and i cant stop it or do anything
01:07:05bluebrotherif you see the default wps then that theme is broken
01:07:08pixelmaah weird that
01:07:36Konfuzius_Pengyou know a website i can load a picture of my screen ?
01:07:53Konfuzius_Pengthen you can se what i mean
01:07:56pixelmathere are a few people reporting the same thing in the forum (especially for the 80GBs)
01:08:08Konfuzius_Pengohoh
01:08:12pixelmathe freezing that is
01:08:13Konfuzius_Pengwith all themes?
01:08:20Konfuzius_Pengis that a rockbox problem?
01:08:26bluebrotherhmm, haven't followed that threads.
01:08:26DerPapstKonfuzius_Peng: imageshack.us
01:09:04Lloreanbluebrother: Do you know what's the story with all these warnings? http://pastebin.com/933716 . I get a rockbox-build.pdf that's about 200k smaller than the .pdf at the manual page (for gigabeat), and it seems to lack at least the table of contents.
01:09:07pixelmait's not known yet what causes it - because none of the developers experienced it yet
01:10:34Konfuzius_Pengi hope on some day it will get fixed
01:10:40bluebrotherLlorean: that warnings are normal −− on the first LaTeX run the labels are unknown.
01:10:49 Quit ender` (" Engineers think that equations approximate the real world. Scientists think that the real world approximates equations. Ma)
01:11:01DerPapstKonfuzius_Peng: wps'es aren't that difficult. try to fix it yourself.
01:11:04DerPapstthat will be fster
01:11:06bluebrotherbut the Makefile re-runs LaTeX until those references are right, and your build breaks after the first run
01:11:08Lloreanbluebrother: Okay, I *thought* the warnings were normal, but I do get that error at the end, and there's no table of contents in my pdf.
01:11:16Konfuzius_Pengbecause rockbox is the only alternative. and i dont want to use ipod not even one single day with original software (i NEED Folder structure)
01:11:20bluebrotherwhich explains that the TOC is missing
01:11:24LloreanAlright
01:11:37LloreanNow I wish I knew what line the syntax error was on.
01:11:54DerPapstKonfuzius_Peng: maybe you should have bought another DAP then ;)
01:12:07bluebrotherwhat system are you building on?
01:12:08Konfuzius_Penghttp://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ipodproblemnm6.jpg
01:12:36Konfuzius_Pengcobalt screen doas not look correctly
01:12:49Lloreanbluebrother: I'm on Ubuntu w/ Dash. I mentioned this error 2 in regards to Linuxstb's patch when he first posted it.
01:12:50bluebrotherKonfuzius_Peng: well, that's the default wps
01:13:03DerPapstwheee german music :D
01:13:14pixelmaKonfuzius_Peng: that is an album art wps, right?
01:13:16Konfuzius_PengDerPapst yeah
01:13:17*bluebrother notices quite a couple of german people in here ;-)
01:13:32bluebrotherLlorean: then I assume we have another dash issue :(
01:13:35Konfuzius_Pengpixelma: soory dont understand what you mean
01:13:59bluebrotherKonfuzius_Peng: some themes use album art (i.e. display the cover of the album). Those require a patched build
01:14:06Konfuzius_Pengpixelma i hve copied all files out of the theme .zip file into the ipod
01:14:14DerPapstthe wps normally shoudl display Album art too? (aka CD cover)
01:14:18bluebrotherwhich means running such a theme on a current build won't work
01:14:26pixelmathe cobalt.wps uses an album art pic?
01:14:37***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
01:14:40bluebrotherthe wps only shows album art if you patched your build ...
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01:15:30Konfuzius_Pengfor example, BLUE RAYS, ESCAPE POD and CROSSPOD are working. iRocker, jBlack Glass and cobald look crappy
01:16:05bluebrotherLlorean: you could of course symlink bash to /bin/sh instead of dash. Then building should work
01:16:30Konfuzius_Pengmaybe i have to invest a little bit more time into this :-)
01:16:39Lloreanbluebrother: I've done that in the past when I actually wanted to build the manual.
01:16:59Konfuzius_Pengits not an "1-click-installation" ;-)
01:17:55*bluebrother has a suspicion
01:18:02Konfuzius_Peng(i'll bet some pople at Aplle wouldnt sleep anymore if these software would be easy to install for all peopl in minutes)
01:18:56Konfuzius_Pengpixelma one moment
01:19:23pixelmaKonfuzius_Peng: the none working ones you mentioned all show album art (the CD cover) - this feature is not supported by an official build which is why these don't work (the short story)
01:19:39bluebrotherKonfuzius_Peng: I bet most people don't care about using anything different than the AppleOS ...
01:20:34Konfuzius_Pengpixelma yes ii uses album art. thank you :-)
01:21:13bluebrotherLlorean: does this patch fix your issue? http://pastebin.com/933719
01:21:28Konfuzius_Penghave thought that if there is no album art it keeps the place empty and the rest will look correctly
01:23:35DerPapstgood night at all
01:23:37DerPapstgcc o sleep.c sleep && sleep -r DerPapst
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01:25:35Lloreanbluebrother: No.
01:25:50bluebrothertoo bad. But it was only a quick guess.
01:26:04bluebrotherI'll look into this tomorrow. It's quite late here.
01:26:05Konfuzius_Pengbluebrother i wouldnt cary of using anything than apple software, too. if the software would allow to use files and folders structure. i dont understend how people can use this original software if they use mp3 from outside itunes. if you download a few audiobooks from elsewhere and try to upload it with itunes or another softare, all files will be in one big screen window
01:26:56Konfuzius_Peng(and completely chaos, if the id3 tags are not correct. then you here 20 audiobooks at one time, every few minutes an other file ;-) )
01:27:18Lloreanbluebrother: Oddly enough, it looks like it happens after it starts trying to re-make
01:27:58LloreanIt successfully remakes rockbox-build.aux, puts rockbox-build.pdf on the chain, then has its syntax error.
01:28:13Konfuzius_Pengor maybe i am not smart enough to learn how to use apple software correctly. anyway, it sucks
01:29:25Konfuzius_Pengok, thank you all for helping :-)
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01:32:48Robin0800bluebrother,is wx 2.8 python?
01:35:33peturholy shit, I just fried my h340
01:35:44Konfuzius_Peng^^
01:36:54pixelmapetur: oh?
01:36:55peturcrap, I think the hdd is dead
01:36:56XavierGrpetur: really?
01:37:09bluebrotherRobin0800: no. http://www.wxwidgets.org
01:37:11XavierGrhow did you managed to fry it?
01:37:16petursounded like a turbine
01:37:34peturit was charging and I connectet the usb to my laptop
01:37:43peturconnected
01:38:16XavierGroh man that sucks :(
01:38:23XavierGrso now it doesn't respond at all?
01:38:36peturdisplay stops after batt reading
01:39:00peturaaargh
01:39:39markunfuck
01:39:40XavierGrwith what error?
01:39:47peturnone
01:39:50XavierGrdamn
01:40:01XavierGrwell if it turns on that's good
01:40:01peturjust hangs after displaying batt voltage
01:40:10Konfuzius_Penghm... have had such problem sometimes on my ihp-120 too
01:40:11XavierGropen it and put your older drive
01:40:25peturit made a horrible noise, I'll never forget that :/
01:40:46peturXavierGr: I'm busy opening it
01:40:47XavierGrlet's hope it is only the HDD that died (though even then the loss is great) :\
01:40:57peturyes 80GB disk
01:41:04XavierGralso check if the battery ballooned
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01:41:20Konfuzius_Pengshure it is the hd?
01:41:21XavierGryou got one of those iPod 21000 mAh right?
01:41:25peturyes
01:42:34Konfuzius_Peng(have had similar problem. player doesnt start anymore, shows only backlight and not much more. reset button doesnt help.)
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01:45:51Konfuzius_Peng(could get it started again with connecting it on a pc ith ub and after disconnecting it, it boots correctly again...weird)
01:46:02Konfuzius_Peng(nothing else helped)
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01:46:21Konfuzius_Pengwith usb
01:49:14peturyep, it's the battery that caused it :(
01:50:04XavierGr:( damn cheap 2100 mah batteries
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01:50:24XavierGrI am happy that my batter is from the old newtech and 1900mAh
01:50:29XavierGr^battery
01:50:45XavierGrpetur: so what's the picture?
01:51:05XavierGrpetur: any leakage or broken stuff?
01:51:34peturbattery is leaking (nothing spilled thank god), going to replace that first, then try the hdd
01:51:56XavierGrstrange that it managed to turn on with a broken battery
01:53:50peturbah, got to disassemlbe completely... will take some time
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01:59:07Konfuzius_Penganyone know which tool is the best to load the bootloader into ipod video? some people on a german chat asked me because they now want to use it too
01:59:25Konfuzius_Pengdont want to say something wrong ^^
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02:09:42peturwooooooooooooot! my 80gb boots with the old battery
02:09:48peturphew
02:10:01XavierGrnice one!
02:10:10XavierGrI am really happy that only your battery was to blame
02:10:18peturI can't believe it, after the horrible noise it made
02:10:32peturI was sure the hdd was gone
02:10:37XavierGryou stand lucky in your bad luck
02:10:54peturdamn cheap batteries
02:11:08XavierGrI guess the turbine sound came from the balloned battery that needed to output the pressured gas
02:11:12pixelmacongrats :)
02:11:27XavierGryeah I can't manage petur without his H300 :P
02:11:56pixelmaI didn't know that petur needed a manager :P
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02:12:43*XavierGr wonders if petur is going to order another battery for his H300... :P
02:12:51peturthe strange coincidence is, I came across a h340 for sale for only 190 euro (includes shipping) and was thinking about a backup unit
02:12:56XavierGroops /s manage/imagine
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02:13:34*petur starts assembling again
02:13:37XavierGrpetur: I have 2 backups for reasons like this. (an H140 and H115)
02:14:17LloreanThere was an H320 for sale for us $75 on craigslist but it seems to have been bought already. :(
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02:25:49markunworking??
02:25:59markundid you put the old HDD back?
02:26:21peturthe 80gb is ok
02:26:36markunthen what was the problem?
02:26:50peturthe battery leaking gas must have made the noise (it was loud)
02:27:04peturso one crap cheap and now dead battery
02:30:32markunsick, I just downloaded from video.google.com at 10MB/s!!
02:30:47markuna 300MB file in just half a minute
02:32:01Konfuzius_Pengfirefox?
02:32:25markunyes, why?
02:32:43Konfuzius_Pengthen maybe it has loaded already pieces of the file before you decide to download it
02:33:46markunno, just a very fast connection :)
02:34:22Konfuzius_PengMB or MBIT?
02:34:29markununiversity network connected to the dutch backbone
02:34:34Konfuzius_Pengouh
02:34:38markunmega byte
02:34:45Konfuzius_Peng...and i have thought i have a fast connection
02:34:54Konfuzius_PengVDSL with 50 MBIT per second
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02:35:27chrisjs169|afkwhat's that icon in the top right corner of the now playing screen on the Sansa?
02:35:55markunwell, it's not common for me to get these speeds on the internet
02:36:05bagawkmarkun: I can also get that at times where I work :)
02:36:07markunonly on our local net or from another university
02:36:25markunmaybe google has a mirror here in the netherlands
02:36:33chrisjs169|afkactually it's just not on the now playing screen - is it some sort of hdd led thing?
02:37:07markunchrisjs169|afk: yes, disk activity
02:37:09bagawkmarkun: The OSU OSL is here, has a good hunk of bandwidth
02:37:35markunbagawk: I have no clue what that means
02:37:46chrisjs169|afkmarkun: ok
02:37:56markunanyway, time for sleep
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02:38:48bagawkmarkun: fairly big open source project hoster, hosts boxes for mozilla, apache, openoffice, phpbb and lots of others
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02:46:06Konfuzius_Penghave a private 50 MBit dsl connection and a usenet flatrate from giganews.com... all i need ;-)
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03:50:56Soapor as in Oregon?
03:52:07Soapdang, google suggests you ment Oregon.
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04:04:11saratogaif I declare a variable static, can I still pass a reference pointing to it to a different file?
04:05:41JdGordonlostlogic: ?
04:05:53JdGordonsaratoga: yeah
04:08:35daurnJdGordon: yo
04:08:39JdGordonhey
04:08:54daurnsup
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04:09:42JdGordonnm
04:09:46JdGordonfreeking freezing
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04:11:40daurnha
04:11:42daurnnot that bad
04:11:45daurncompared to other days lately
04:17:50saratogaanother question
04:18:07saratogacan I call sizeof on a struct when statically allocating it
04:18:13saratogasomething like:
04:18:29saratogachar *buffer[sizeof(CodecContext)];
04:21:54saratogahmm, seems to work, so I guess so!
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04:29:16webguest65how do i update to the current build without deleting anything
04:29:19webguest65?
04:30:26webguest65how do i update to the current build without deleting anything?
04:31:36webguest65Llorean
04:32:01Soapsimply extract the current build zip overtop of your present directory structure.
04:32:02scorchewebguest65: it is considered rude to highlight people like that...have some patience
04:32:22scorchewhen you extract over, it should ask if you want to overwrite the files
04:32:39Soapall the things you don't want deleted (.cfg files, music, playlists, themes) are not part of the .zip file and so won't get touched.
04:32:55webguest65ahhh... gracias senors
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04:36:12JdGordonsaratoga: why are you doing that? why not just create a temp variable of that struct?
04:39:30saratogaJdGordon: didn't think of doing that, but yes that would make more sense
04:41:09saratogahas anyone noticed that the sansa doesn't seem to be able to mount in disk mode if the hold switch is on?
04:42:42JdGordonby disk mode you mean the OF?
04:46:59saratogayes, sorry
04:47:05LloreanThe OF shouldn't boot if the hold switch is on, I thought
04:47:19saratogaI'd expect it to if I plug in the USB though
04:47:36saratogaunless theres some utility in having it not mount?
04:48:24LloreanI can't read Sandisk's minds.
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04:50:24saratogaI assumed that was us handling it, but you're probably right
04:50:44saratogaactually you must be right since rockbox hand't loaded
04:50:51saratoganever mind, back to ffmpeg
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04:53:29JdGordonLlorean: I think your scrolling colour lines bug is an easy fix :)
04:53:41LloreanJdGordon: It wasn't obvious to me at least.
04:53:52LloreanSince scrolling makes use of putsxy too, I think
04:54:06JdGordon:) lunch time, back soon
04:54:23JdGordonI've added a bit of code to the scrolling thread which hopefully will work,
04:54:27JdGordonbbs
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05:08:22JdGordonanyone know what the setting name for the .colours file is?
05:10:23JdGordongrr! didnt work :'(
05:12:01LloreanJdGordon: What'd you add?
05:12:43JdGordonsilly stuff coz im an idiot and didnt really check how its all used first :p
05:12:53LloreanHahaha.
05:14:09*JdGordon doing it properly this time...
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05:15:07JdGordonalmost got it :) i now have a green line selector bar
05:15:14LloreanI managed that one.
05:15:29LloreanIt turned white again when it scrolled, though. :-P
05:15:45JdGordonmine stays green while scrolling... which looks horrible
05:16:06JdGordonworks correctly with the cursor though
05:16:21LloreanSo, now to just get the selection highlight back to white?
05:16:36LloreanCan you check for not inverse?
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05:16:55JdGordondoing that now
05:20:03lostlogicJdGordon: see, still my hero, because you picked up the quick chunk of code I threew together and are making it a feature.
05:20:20JdGordon:)
05:20:44JdGordonI havnt got round to playing with it on my sansa yet so I still have no idea what it looks like on the actual device
05:20:48JdGordonits fun in the sim though
05:21:00JdGordonlike the gui I put together in 15 min ?
05:21:33LloreanIf scrolling works, it really *will* be trivial to add it to the WPS.
05:21:44LloreanScrolling lines were the only place it didn't work already, basically.
05:21:53LloreanOr rather, the only place it wasn't obvious how to add it.
05:22:51JdGordonfortunatly the lcd_set_colour functions are nice and cheap
05:22:57JdGordonotherwise this wouldnt work so well
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05:26:30*JdGordon rules :D
05:26:54JdGordonthe onlly problem is there is a bit of a wait before the text goes the correct colour after being selected
05:27:34LloreanHm?
05:28:11JdGordonthe time between selecting the item and it scrolling the colours are wrong, the text is the current background oclour instead of the reuqested colour
05:28:29JdGordonthats problably a bug in the list though, so should be simple fix
05:28:47LloreanWhen the text is highlighted with inverse, right now it's always background color.
05:29:13LloreanIs that what you're saying?
05:29:36JdGordonsort of, with the fix once scrolling starts the text goes the requested colour
05:29:51JdGordonwhich the selection is shown in the usually foreground colour
05:30:02JdGordonbut there is half a sec when the text is the wrong colour
05:30:34LloreanProbably because lcd_puts_style_offset still draws inverted text with the text being the background color rather than the text color
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05:39:39JdGordonhang on... do we want the selection shown in its colour? or the usual bg colour?
05:39:46JdGordons/usual/current
05:40:41LloreanThe most logical at first thought is the bg colour, as it always has been.
05:40:57LloreanBut in some cases where there's only one file in the folder, whatever color you've set it might make more sense.
05:41:55LloreanI almost think that if it's STYLE_COLORED, then show the text color, otherwise show the background color or image?
05:43:32JdGordonthats waht I tinhk also
05:43:58JdGordonexcept.... black selection with brown text doesnt work so well...
05:44:06JdGordonguess thats up to the person though
05:44:11LloreanYep, they pick their own colors.
05:44:28LloreanBrown FG with a brown image for backdrop doesn't work very well either. ;)
05:45:35daurnJdGordon: what are you doing now/today
05:46:25JdGordonabout to commit a fix, then got shit to do :p
05:48:54JdGordongrr.... 1 bug to fix first though
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05:55:38*JdGordon getting bloody dark green lines
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05:58:37JdGordonactually, I cant tell if its dark green or black... either way its not inverting colours for non-coloured lines anymore :'(
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07:35:24Splosh123Good Evening all...
07:36:47alienbiker99evening
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08:03:53amiconnJdGordon: Strange fix...
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08:07:03JdGordonoh?
08:07:36JdGordoncant talk now... ill read logs though..
08:08:00amiconnWhat I am wondering about is why you need to touch the bg colour at all
08:08:44amiconnInverted text is supposed to swap fg and bg colour, but this is already handled by the text output itself when drawmode has the INVERSEVID flag set
08:10:18LloreanIt doesn't make as much sense to swap them when the text is colored, because then you can no longer tell information from the color of the text (a problem when entering a single file folder). Though I'd kinda expected him to post that part as a patch, since maybe it deserves a new style denotation.
08:10:53amiconnWhy doesn't it make sense?
08:11:09LloreanWell, the highlight bar uses the FG color of the UI, not the text color.
08:11:23amiconnWhy does it do that?
08:11:34amiconnIt should of course take the colour of the text
08:11:57LloreanHonestly, that ends up looking really silly comparatively.
08:12:21LloreanBut the thing is, the text is no longer the same as the foreground.
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08:12:29amiconnThat's how it's intended to work
08:12:34rageaholdid the battery life just do a huge quantum jump?
08:12:46LloreanThe scrollbar on the left, statusbar and folder name, and the line selector end up being foreground color.
08:12:58rageaholmy h10 20gig went for 3 hours when i left it on, and it was only at 47% when i got back
08:13:10rageaholnormally, like 2.5 hours and its dead
08:13:17amiconnIf the text keeps its own colour and the bar uses the ui colour and colours are no longer swapped, how do you read text when bar colour and text colour is the same?
08:13:30Lloreanrageahol: Technically speaking, quantum would indicate the smallest possible increase.
08:13:45rageaholi said huge quantum jump
08:13:54rageaholmeaning, discrete jump
08:14:01Lloreanamiconn: This only happens if they've set a color in the .colors file to the same as the foreground color, which is pointless. If you don't set a color, the text is the same as the foreground color and gets properly inverted
08:14:16Lloreanrageahol: Yes, but quantum means the smallest discrete unit.
08:14:23amiconnIt's not pointless and can happen very easily
08:14:25midkayLlorean: like the term "quantum leap"?
08:14:27rageaholright, thats why i used "huge"
08:14:29midkayseems appropriate.
08:14:48amiconnJust set the foreground colour to something non-black after having added a .colours file
08:14:52Lloreanmidkay: The term quantum leap is a gross misuse of the word quantum.
08:15:01midkayLlorean: it's still a popular term :)
08:15:47Lloreanamiconn: If you set the foreground color to something non-black, then what? Unless you set it exactly the same as a color you've already used for text, it won't cause a problem.
08:16:00LloreanAnd you already can use a backdrop image or background color in conflict with your foreground.
08:16:37amiconnSetting fg and bg colours to identical values is prevented by the colour chooser
08:16:52LloreanYes, but not when loading a .cfg, and there's no way to do so for loading a backdrop .bmp
08:17:19LloreanThe color chooser is actually the least likely place for it to happen since if they do manage to do it, they're highlighting the exact right place to fix it already.
08:17:55LloreanAnyway, as I said, I don't think it's the right way for style inverse. A style highlight should be added to handle this case
08:17:57amiconnI'm just saying that not keeping the colour swapping both causes an additional problem and makes it look odd, since you have lines which invert and lines which don't
08:19:20Lloreanamiconn: The only lines that invert, assuming blah.colors does not contain the foreground color, are lines where the text is the same color as the highlight bar. I think for an actual "highlight" that makes sense, but either way, inverse is currently broken in the context of "inverse"
08:21:42amiconnYes, another nasty thing
08:22:03amiconnIt makes the lcd driver behave different from what is specified
08:23:09LloreanI believe it only does so if the colored style is set.
08:23:16LloreanOr at least, last time I looked, it looked that way
08:23:26amiconnyes
08:23:30LloreanStill, it shouldn't even in that case.
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08:24:14Lloreanamiconn: Would you object to an added highlight style that functions the way it does now, and then restoration of the proper inverse?
08:24:22amiconnSo even if this odd behaviour is desired in the ui, the implementation is broken.
08:25:12amiconnThe scroll structure needs to store fg and bg colour, and the ui needs to set them instead of using this odd style magic
08:26:07amiconnPerhaps it would make sense to make the selector bar colour settable on colour targets, instead of just inverting the text
08:26:17LloreanThat's essentially what I planned to do.
08:26:33LloreanFirst lock it to the UI / Foreground color and get inverse fixed, then add its own color afterward.
08:27:47amiconnStoring the colours in the scroll struct (or rather, a cloned sub-viewport) is necessary anyway with viewports
08:28:08amiconnIt will even have to store some more attributes
08:28:27JdGordonjust quickly, why isnt the style variable copied for the scroll struct instead of it being split up?
08:29:21*JdGordon will read logs tomoro night, cyaz
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08:42:14amiconnI just realized that the inversevid stuff could probably be removed for anything else than mono targets
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08:42:32amiconnSetting fg and bg colour accordingly has the same effect
08:43:05webguest59hi
08:43:49amiconnAnd I guess that as the ui will start using more and more colour, the need for pure inversion will be reduced
08:44:07webguest59i need help with my rockbox, i've installed it onto my ipod nano but i can't play any of the .rvf files...what's wrong??
08:44:15LloreanI'm not actually familiar with anywhere it is used other than the highlight line, though I'll admit to having done no research at all before saying this.
08:44:31amiconnEven on greyscale target I can imagine the selector bar to not invert the text, but leave the text in black and draw the selector in light grey
08:44:36Lloreanwebguest59: You aren't supposed to be playing rvf files.
08:45:18Lloreanamiconn: I think that might actually look quite nice.
08:45:19amiconnThe only displays where we need inversion are the mono ones(that includes the iriver remotes of course)
08:46:24webguest59i got the files from a website that was linked to thr rockbox page, it says that i can play the .rvf file if i have rockbox on my player...did i missunderstood something? how can i play the .rvf files then?
08:47:00Lloreanwebguest59: Where did the Rockbox page say to use RVF files on a Nano? Have you tried simply reading the rockbox manual for the Nano?
08:47:01amiconnLlorean: So for the selector, it would actually be the job of the ui to set colours properly. Set bg to the ui foreground colour (or preferably a separate selector colour), and set fg to the text colour
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08:47:46Lloreanamiconn: And if they match, perhaps allow the option to set a fallback color for the text, rather than straight inverse?
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08:48:28LloreanOr just inverse if they match?
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08:50:20amiconnInverse, I'd say (i.e. set the ui bg colour as fg)
08:50:24webguest59http://rockboxvideo.redbreva.co.uk/ <__ i got the videos from here...
08:51:05Lloreanwebguest59: An entirely unofficial site.
08:52:36webguest59oh..ok...but it was linked to the rockbox page, here.... http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VideoTutorial ..... under "Sample Clips"
08:52:39Lloreanwebguest59: RVF files only play on certain grayscale players. Please try reading the manual.
08:52:50webguest59ok
08:52:53webguest59thanks..
08:53:07webguest59i have, but i guess i missed that part..
08:53:10webguest59thanks again..
08:53:16LloreanWiki pages are also community maintained.
08:53:47LloreanThe manual is where you should look, carefully, first.
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08:54:07Lloreanamiconn: So when text color == fgcolor, draw the text in bgcolor instead when highlighted?
08:54:12amiconnLlorean: Hmm. Regarding the manual and rockbox' file formats - not all formats are supported on all targets
08:54:26Lloreanamiconn: Honestly, I was assuming he'd just look up video.
08:54:45amiconnBut the manual only explains those which are supported by the respective target.
08:55:36amiconnMaybe the appendix could have a list of *all* rockbox supported file formats, saying "not supported on <target name>" accordingly?
08:55:48LloreanThat would be quite beneficial I think. Reduce some confusion.
08:56:05LloreanEven just a table of extensions, with columns by player?
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08:56:41amiconnHmm, so you can see which other targets support this format?
08:56:51LloreanExactly.
08:57:20amiconnThe question is how much information about other targets should be put in our target specific manuals
08:57:55amiconnLlorean: No, when text colour == selector colour, use bg colour for the text instead
08:58:10Lloreanamiconn: That's what I meant, though I perhaps didn't phrase it properly.
08:59:31*GodEater feels sorry for the man with the Zune in our forums
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09:00:19amiconnPerhaps the standard selector colour should be orange...
09:00:34amiconn...complementing the rockbox look
09:00:47LloreanRockbox orange selector, black text, rockbox blue background.
09:01:00LloreanAnd we have a "real" UI
09:01:01Llorean:-P
09:01:18amiconnyup
09:01:25scorche"For the past five months, I've been monitoring the Zune-Linux forum daily" eek..
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09:03:09GodEaterpoor bloke
09:03:23GodEaterwhat a waste of his time
09:03:28daurno.o
09:03:29daurnwhy
09:03:48LloreanStill it's an expensive piece of hardware, and it's hard to replace a gift with something else without giving offense in many cases.
09:04:10GodEaterLlorean: yes - but I agree that he might have spent his time better looking for support for accessing it from linux
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09:04:17GodEaterrather than running linux *on* it
09:04:23LloreanGodEater: Definitely true
09:04:37GodEateresp. given those jokers over there
09:04:43GodEaterI'm just glad he didn't send them any money
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09:06:57GodEaterone day I shall have to give iPL a try - to see if I can understand why running linux on a DAP makes any sort of sense
09:07:08GodEaterbecause I don't get it at all at the moment
09:07:48LloreanI tried iPL for about half an hour.
09:07:55LloreanThough it was over a year ago
09:08:14GodEaterI never get the impression from the iPL site that there's much dev. work actually happening
09:08:24GodEaterso a year seems pretty recent to me :)
09:08:50GodEaterI guess your impression wasn't so positive then if you didn't bother keeping it
09:09:05LloreanActually, I really only booted it to verify that the (then) brand new Rockbox bootloader could load it.
09:09:16LloreanSince we'd been having some strange issues with getting it to load the retail OS on the Nano
09:09:48LloreanNothing I saw caught my attention though
09:09:58LloreanI think the major draws are either PDA like features, or games
09:10:12*scorche motions to his treo
09:10:16GodEaterI'm fairly certain I'd prefer a PDA to do PDA like functions
09:10:17GodEater:)
09:10:19scorchelet my DAP be a DAP
09:10:23GodEateryep
09:10:33*GodEater has an hp4150 for that
09:10:39GodEaternot that I use it much
09:10:44scorchemuch better screen too
09:10:45GodEaterand it does have linux on it ;)
09:11:05GodEaternone of this windows CE rubbish
09:11:21daurnsee
09:11:26daurnI'd rather my pda to be a laptop
09:11:42*GodEater has one of those too
09:12:47GodEaternot that it's that portable - it's one of those Dell XPS "BoogieBoards" :)
09:14:09amiconnPDA and DAP are the same letters ...
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09:15:12amiconnGodEater: The Dell XPS reminds me - I still don't understand why the norebook manufacturers decided to put these glare displays into consumer notebooks...
09:15:32amiconnThese displays are a nightmare
09:15:46peturindeed
09:16:00LloreanGlare displays?
09:16:20scorchethey have an extra shiny layer of plastic that seems to pick up glare from nowhere
09:16:21peturI'm so happy I found a 1920x1024 non-reflective
09:16:26LloreanAh, yeah
09:16:38amiconnIf I'd want a mirror, I'd buy a mirror. Also much cheaper than a notebook
09:16:44petur:)
09:17:14*nls would like that standard test-track now...
09:17:42scorchebug Soap in a few hours
09:17:59nlspreliminary tests with vorbis when building rockbox with gcc 4.1 are very dissapointing...
09:18:07nlsscorche: :-)
09:19:30GodEaterpetur: what did you buy then ?
09:19:44peturdell lattitude d820
09:19:51nlsTremor built with -O2 in gcc 4.1 is _slower_ than when built with -O1 in gcc 3.4 :-/
09:20:11GodEaterround of applause for the gcc team then
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09:29:19linuxstbGood morning
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10:04:01The-CompilerMoin
10:04:05The-Compileroops, sorry, wrong tab :)
10:04:22peturoh thanks, so no good morning for us?
10:07:07The-CompilerHehe :) DerPapst has telled me, that greetings here not usual are (I'm sorry for my bad English :D)
10:07:27The-Compiler*has told me
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10:07:47GodEaterwow - we come across as a soulless bunch don't we ?
10:07:58markunThe-Compiler: people greet from time to time
10:08:08*GodEater waves to everyone to prove it
10:09:51markunperphaps people think that because they got yelled at while asking about something off topic (like ipl) while we can talk about beer all we went..
10:10:15petur:D
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10:10:30markunregering to "soulless bunch"
10:10:32GodEaterI think that's the same as any IRC channel I've ever sat it. You have to earn your right to wander off topic
10:10:39markun-typos
10:10:41scorchemarkun: well, how i see it, is there are certain perks to being entrenched in the community and/or being a dev
10:10:50peturhmmm beer time in 7 hours....
10:11:55markunpetur: I have a bottle of vodka and a bottle of whiskey in my desk drawer :)
10:12:15*petur wonders what quality a 7,5 euro 2200mAh battery will be :/
10:13:39markunbtw, for people who only know me as an old, wild, bearded guy at devcon: http://130.89.160.166/no_more_beard.jpg
10:13:40*GodEater wonders what *shape* it'll be
10:14:09peturaaaaaaaaaaahh *runs away sccreaming*
10:14:26scorchemarkun: wow....huge difference!
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10:14:47markunyes, took me a while to get used to my face in the mirror
10:14:58markun:)
10:15:00*petur discovers markun has a mouth :p
10:15:13markunpetur: where did you think all that indian food went?
10:15:25scorcheyou guys had indian food as well?
10:15:26markunin the beard?
10:15:31peturI only saw that little device on your plate
10:15:46markunscorche: you too?
10:15:55markunpetur: yes, crazy swedes :)
10:15:57scorchewell, i didnt, but everyone else did...
10:16:10markunyou don't like it?
10:16:11scorche"14:46 Found an Indian buffet to eat at"
10:16:42*GodEater works a stone's throw from Brick Lane.
10:16:53GodEaterSoooooo much Indian food to choose from....
10:17:10*scorche isnt a fan of indian food
10:17:21markunscorche: what about thai?
10:17:28*scorche is a picky eater
10:17:54*GodEater used to be a picky eater, then discovered he was missing out on a whole lot of stuff
10:18:13scorchei still laugh at this picture... scorche.cleansoap.org/rockbox/images/HPIM0547e.jpg">http://scorche.cleansoap.org/rockbox/images/HPIM0547e.jpg
10:18:31scorchewe all find some little snack food as dinner, and he pulls that out..
10:18:50scorcheit was good cheese though =)
10:19:19markunyes, doesn't look bad
10:19:56markunthe amount of beer that petur pulled out of his bag was also quite amazing
10:20:05peturyou're supposed to remove that white stuff from around the sausage before cutting it
10:20:35scorchepetur: it was easy to peel off in tiny bits
10:20:39markunpetur: those barbarian french guys :)
10:20:57markunat least I assume it was toffe
10:21:09scorcheand red chimay > blue chimay...agreed?
10:21:15scorchemarkun: aye
10:21:26markunscorche: does he have a french accent?
10:21:33scorchequite strong
10:22:30peturscorche: I don't know... I'm not that much a chimay fan... but yes, a bit
10:23:08*GodEater had Banana Bread Beer last weekend
10:23:12GodEaterthat was damn nice
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10:24:58scorchemarkun: about the accent, all of us have decided to call them jiggabeats after the devcon
10:25:13markun;)
10:25:46GodEaterafter watching "Back to the Future" I always assumed that's how "Giga" was pronounced in the USA anyway
10:26:07scorchewell, i cant really type with a french accent
10:26:21GodEater:)
10:26:23scorchezhiggabeat might be a better way
10:26:31GodEaterah - yes
10:26:38GodEaterthat sounds more french in my head
10:26:42peturáéîòù
10:28:23scorchetoo much fun...i cant wait till next year =)
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10:49:05amiconnpetur: I wouldn't really trust LiIon batteries which aren't made for the specific device
10:49:29amiconnCharging characteristics might be different, and LiIon batteries are very sensitive to overcharging
10:49:42peturit was a typical ipod 1/2gen battery, a bit thicker than the original
10:50:23peturthe trouble is finding a good quality 2200mAh-ish battery
10:50:26amiconnYes, and ipod batteries aren't made for the iriver. They're made for ipods
10:50:36peturrealy? :p
10:50:55amiconnI'd rather stick with the stock battery than risk my player for a bit more runtime
10:51:11amiconnI think the nasty noise might have actually been caused by the hdd, because the battery pressed on it
10:51:54peturwell it survived, so I'm happy
10:52:16petur80GB don't come cheap ;)
10:52:38GodEater2200maH I bought for my iriver seemed to fit ok
10:53:04peturwas it sold as ipod batt or iriver?
10:53:11amiconnGodEater: Yes, it will fit, but it might break like petur's
10:53:31amiconnBallooning because of overcharge
10:53:51peturbtw, there's an h340 for sale for 190 euro (shipping included) on mr
10:54:59peturI saw it just before mine started acting up
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12:27:52bluebrothernow for some food ...
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12:47:17GodEaterstill stumped by these 80GB freezing reports
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13:00:40markunGodEater: do you think it can be much else than the ata driver?
13:00:42DerPapst"10:07 <The-Compiler>: Hehe :) DerPapst has telled me, that greetings here not usual are (I'm sorry for my bad English :D)"
13:00:48*DerPapst is absolutely rejecting this statement.
13:00:52DerPapstcan't remember saying that.
13:00:56markun:)
13:01:00DerPapstgood morining at all :D
13:01:01markunhi DerPapst anyway :)
13:01:13markunwell, a bit past morning..
13:01:20The-CompilerDerPapst: Maybe it wasn't you... But I think so.
13:01:27DerPapsthehe
13:01:53DerPapstnvm ;-)
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13:03:29The-CompilerNow I know it: It was bluebrother
13:03:41*DerPapst doesn't have any issues with his 80GB 'Pod either... yet.
13:04:28DerPapstbluebrother... as usual :-P
13:05:00GodEatermarkun: I don't believe it's anything to do with the ata driver
13:05:09GodEatermy 80GB ipod is absolutely fine
13:05:19markunwhat else is different in the 80GB ipods?
13:05:34GodEaternothing AFAIK
13:06:00GodEaterI'm convinced it's a user issue
13:06:03GodEaterI just don't know what ;)
13:06:05linuxstbmarkun: Regarding your edit to HardDriveReplacement - is a "CE-ATA" interface the one most Rockbox targets have (called "pins" on that page)?
13:08:23linuxstbA description of the different 1.8" connectors would be useful if anyone knows enough about them to add a description to that page...
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13:10:26DerPapstGodEater: and the 5.5G has a different battery + backlight LEDs... but rockbox doesn't care about that ;)
13:10:39markunlinuxstb: no, CE-ATA is 18 pins
13:10:49markunamiconn knows something about it
13:11:09markunI'll put some info in the wiki
13:11:10linuxstbSo we could call them 18-pin and 50-pin interfaces? (am I right in thinking the standard ones are 50?)
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13:11:18linuxstbOr is it 44...
13:11:51*linuxstb loves having lots of standards to choose from...
13:12:07DerPapsthehe
13:12:19markunI think there are now 18, 40, 44 and 50 pin 1.8" HDD's :)
13:12:32linuxstbPlus a few variations of ZIP?
13:12:35markunlinuxstb: CE-ATA is MMC compatible
13:12:35linuxstb^AIF
13:12:42*linuxstb gives up typing
13:12:42DerPapstdon't forget the zif's
13:12:55markunZIF == 40, no?
13:13:05DerPapsterrmm
13:13:21markunCE-ATA is also called ZIP-18 on span.com I think
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13:13:28linuxstbDon't some drives have the pins along the long edge?
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13:13:59markunlinuxstb: yes, the Hitachi drives I believe
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13:15:06linuxstbmarkun: So 18 and 40 are ZIF, and 44 and 50 are pins?
13:15:18markunZIP != ZIF I think
13:15:30linuxstbZIP was a typo by me
13:15:32markunactually, I'm not sure what ZIP-18 means
13:15:41linuxstbI meant to say ZIF
13:15:42markunI can't find anything about it
13:16:21markunlinuxstb: well, they use it on span.com too http://www.span.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23_504_1803&products_id=13926&osCsid=f0c279e22b7c2f053030444630f69197
13:16:33markun"ZIP-18 CE-ATA"
13:17:05linuxstb;)
13:17:05linuxstbI know more than I thought I did...
13:17:52markunI can't find any info about it
13:18:22linuxstbMaybe that's just a typo as well
13:18:51markunlinuxstb: http://www.ce-ata.org/specifications.asp
13:19:09markunthere are 2 connectors for CE-ATA: 12 pin and 18 pin
13:21:02markunand here: http://www.seagate-asia.com/anz/ecatalog/
13:21:22markunType of Connector: Seagate ZIP (18-pin)
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13:22:32markunlinuxstb: maybe we should remove the CE-ATA part in the wiki until there are DAPs which actually use it?
13:26:19amiconnlinuxstb: There are 5 possible interfaces for 1.8" hdds
13:26:35amiconn(1) 44-pin ATA (like 2.5" hdds, long side)
13:26:55amiconn(2) 50-pin ATA (the one used by most of our targets)
13:27:06amiconn(3) PC-Card
13:27:16peturamiconn: why not put that in the wiki? ;)
13:27:25amiconn(4) 40-pin ZIF (the one used in the ipod video)
13:27:44amiconn(5) 18-pin CE-ATA (serial connection based on the MMC standard)
13:29:48markunamiconn: PC-Card is 68 pins?
13:30:29amiconnyes
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13:34:22DerPapstgood night everyone
13:34:30DerPapst:)
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14:36:46KRolfeHello
14:37:07KRolfeIs there anybody around that could help me?
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14:40:36linuxstb_KRolfe: There probably is - ask your question and you'll find out.
14:45:50KRolfeAh, thanks.
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14:47:12markunlinuxstb: with 120GB drives from Seagate and Samsung it looks like we will be able to upgrade our DAPs for quite some while
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14:47:37peturyes, but thay will all be ZIF :(
14:47:42petur*they
14:47:54markunpetur: then we'll just have to make a converter
14:48:10KRolfeWhen rockbox is loaded and i connect it to my PC it doesnt recognise the device. So i cant update my music. Does anybody know a fix?
14:48:15peturmass-product :)
14:48:30linuxstb_KRolfe: Which device?
14:48:31markunKRolfe: which player?
14:48:38KRolfeipod 3g
14:48:56markunit doesn't who up in explorer?
14:48:57*petur managed not to press enter after typing the same question :)
14:49:05markunshow up
14:49:08linuxstb_Rockbox doesn't have USB or firewire detection on the 3G - you need to manually reboot into either the Apple firmware or the emergency disk mode
14:49:19markunah :)
14:49:30KRolfeexplorer gives me an unrecognised device balloon
14:49:40KRolfeah ok
14:50:00KRolfethanks alot guys i thought i was in trouble ha!
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14:50:45linuxstb_Apart from that, how is it working? There have been reports recently that the 3G port is quite unstable.
14:51:45KRolfewell i just installed it for the first time and was wondering how to load some music to try it out.
14:51:46linuxstb_(and there are not currently any active developers with 3Gs)
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14:55:47antgelhello all, problem with my iriver h340 - upgrading to latest version didn't fix...
14:56:22markunantgel: what is the problem?
14:57:10antgel... basically clicking a song to play, it doesn't play - display shows a different song in the same directory - rm'd .rockbox, no joy. works with factory firmware (eugh). is there a database not in .rockbox that might have become corrupt?
14:57:29antgelor alternatively, what can i do to get a debug log for you guys?
14:57:53linuxstbDid you chkdsk /f your filesystem?
14:57:58antgelmarkun: hi, i was coming to that - just wanted to say hi before flooding the channel :)
14:58:04markunok :)
14:58:39markunantgel: well, we have a database, but if you click on files in the file browser it has nothing to do with the db
14:58:54antgellinuxstb: well, i thought of that - i don't have a windows box around so i tried dosfsck - reported little - just free space was out slightly
14:59:08antgelmarkun: yeah, i thought maybe something lower-level
14:59:32antgellinuxstb: if dosfsck is crap, i'll try and locate a windows box
14:59:45linuxstbYou could try a reformat.
14:59:57antgelit could well be that, i drop the thing more often than i hold it
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15:00:27antgelbut - is it not strange that factory firmware works fine, and if i mount it in linux, i can play songs from it using xmms or whatever?
15:00:36markunit is
15:00:45linuxstbI was about to ask about playing the files from Linux...
15:00:57antgelworks fine
15:01:08antgelthere is one other thing
15:01:48antgelan error crept into my sync script, and i think i ran unix2dos on a bunch of oggs (it should just run on m3us)
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15:02:04linuxstbThat would cause issues...
15:02:08antgelhmm
15:02:29antgelokay, interesting. so why does factory firmware and xmms not give a toss?
15:02:32linuxstbI'm not sure how robust Rockbox is with corrupt files - it wouldn't surprise me if that could cause crashes.
15:03:04antgelhere's a plan - if i make one such file available, could you download it and try it on your player?
15:03:34linuxstbSure.
15:03:43antgel*thinks*
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15:03:57linuxstbWhat if you create a new folder with known good files? Do they play?
15:03:57antgelyou got an ftp or scp server i can copy it to? :)
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15:04:24linuxstbNo, I don't.
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15:04:54markunantgel: maybe you can host it on a webserver?
15:05:44webguest15antgel: just an idea, could it be that you have "play selected first" disabled and "shuffle" enabled?
15:06:32antgeluploading now
15:06:55markunwebguest15: I didn't even know about the "play selected first" option :)
15:07:23*linuxstb reads about the BBC's Glastonbury festival coverage, and sees it will be live on up to 8 TV channels simultaneously, plus radio, plus online....
15:08:30antgellinuxstb: a new folder with known good files works. :( what a doofus.
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15:08:54antgelluckily most of my music is on my mythtv box. i think :>
15:08:58antgel:| even
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15:09:52antgelalthough that still doesn't explain why rockbox chokes and the others don't
15:10:24antgela non-working file is at antgel.co.uk/01-in_the_presence_of_enemies__part_i.ogg/view">http://www.antgel.co.uk/01-in_the_presence_of_enemies__part_i.ogg/view if anyone is interested
15:10:40antgelit will not be there for long :)
15:11:02webguest15antgel: nice music taste.
15:11:24antgelwebguest15: oh yeah. you know irc's gonna be full of prog geeks :)
15:12:12linuxstbantgel: My first test (using oggdec) decodes it fine...
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15:13:14linuxstbBut trying it in a Rockbox sim, it doesn't work and displays "No file!" in the WPS.
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15:14:59Slasherihmm, eclipse editor seems to integrate quite well with rockbox :)
15:15:07antgeli have to go out now but i'll be interested to read any further comments - i don't know if this qualifies for bug status as i may have run unix2dos on the file
15:15:22*antgel reads above
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15:15:36antgelokay, i know it /doesn't/ ;)
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15:16:43linuxstbantgel: Rockbox should fail gracefully with bad input, not freeze. So technically I would say it's a bug...
15:17:11peturSlasheri: it does? I gave up on it and went with anjuta
15:19:35Slasheripetur: just tried it, and even compiling works and it detects all syntax errors :)
15:19:53Slasherijust needed to change the default build command from "make" to "make -f iriver/Makefile"
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15:24:53*petur will try that in anjuta then :)
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15:25:54Slasherihehe
15:29:07PaulJamSlasheri: doe your last commit mean that i can now use entrys from the tagnavi.config even if i use a custom entry as rootentry?
15:33:44SlasheriPaulJam: menus, yes
15:36:12PaulJamcool
15:36:39Slasheri:)
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16:19:11PaulJamhmm, i just noticed that i have a track with a user rating of "-2". how is that possible?
16:22:57petur#define REAL_CRAP -2
16:23:29LloreanMaybe Rockbox just disagrees with your personal tastes in music.
16:24:05peturmaybe the rating overflows (and the track was overrated anyway)?
16:24:22LloreanI'm surprised the ratings aren't unsigned.
16:27:05PaulJamnevermind, i guess i shouldn't have mentioned this in the first place since i'm not usingan official build.
16:29:26bluebrotherpetur: not #define BAG_OF_SHIT?
16:29:48peturno that's 0
16:30:07peturbecause by default, rockbox sounds like a bag of shit ;)
16:30:18bluebrotherLlorean: seen my last commit? Building on Ubuntu worked for me when I tried in my virtual box
16:30:38bluebrotherso hopefully all dash issues are solved, at least for the manual
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16:33:41Lloreanbluebrother: It looks like it works
16:33:53bluebrothergreat :)
16:34:04LloreanThough there's an error relating to mkinfo.pl at the end.
16:34:10LloreanIs that relating to the version file?
16:35:05Bagdermkinfo.pl makes the info text file
16:35:22pixelmathat's normal if you do a "make" only ATM... try "make manual" - bluebrother explained that here to me yesterday
16:35:37pixelmamust be in the logs
16:35:46LloreanAh, yes no message with make manual
16:35:58bluebrotherbtw, I also changed the latex run mode to nonstopmode (but forgot to mention it in the commit message)
16:36:19bluebrotherthis means that tex-ing won't stop if an error occurs and wait for user input but just fail.
16:36:20pixelmaah, already in today's log
16:36:45bluebrotheryou can always check the log file for the exact place of the error anyway (lines starting with !)
16:36:56Lloreanbluebrother: I prefer that. When it waits for user input, it's very confusing for users like me who don't know what it's wanting.
16:37:29bluebrotheryeah, that was the idea. Plus, when I'm batch-building all manuals it's easier to cancel.
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16:46:53H3g3m0nMy database view has 4 entries for individual each file, anyone know why its happening? Using latest build, ipodnano1g
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16:49:42austriancoderpetur: need help - http://rafb.net/p/kyDGI867.html
16:50:00petursorry, busy right now
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16:51:44austriancoder@all: need help - http://rafb.net/p/kyDGI867.html
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16:53:57petursorry, I was debugging E1 signals, needs a bit of attention
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16:55:19peturso the struct must be aligned on a 2K boundary?
16:55:31austriancoderseems so
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16:56:36peturhmmm can't we get rid of that requirement, maybe that's because the mem is shared by user and kernel in linux?
16:56:56peturso maybe we don't need it (ie it's a linux thing?)
16:57:50austriancoderpetur: I will do some tests the next hour..
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17:00:02Bagderotherwise aligned (alignment) is what you want
17:00:17Bagderan attribute for gcc
17:00:26Bagderexample "struct S { short f[3]; } __attribute__ ((aligned (8)));"
17:02:17austriancoderBagder: thanks
17:03:20lostlogicHmm, other than the H1x0 and H3x0 is there any rockboxable player that supports recording on both an internal and an external microphone?
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17:04:24peturI don't know if the X5 has an internal mic
17:04:26PaulJamlostlogic: x5 i think
17:04:45lostlogicnot the m5 though?
17:07:31peturask pixelma or amiconn
17:08:19PaulJamaccording to BuyersGuide wiki the m5 has an internal mic, but the subpack for the external mic use isnt included
17:09:05lostlogicPaulJam: thanks :) I totally forgot about that wiki page and I helped write it ;)
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17:09:35pixelmathe M5 and the X5 have both internal mics and line-in through the subpack. OndioFM (and I guess the other Archos recorders too) also have a line-in and internal mic
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17:18:35godzirraHey folks.
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17:30:18markunhi godzirra!
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17:50:01*austriancoder read the first recived usb packet
17:50:33webguest64hey if anyone is intresested in buying a gigabeat s60 email me at rockbox_rules@yahoo.com (i want to help with the port of rockbox to it but idk crap. so ill just sell it)
17:50:49markunaustriancoder: is that a breakthrough?
17:50:53PaulJamWould it be possible to make attachments on flyspray open a download dialog insead of showing the file?
17:51:20austriancodermarkun: maybe.. I needed about 1.5 hours to find an never ending loop
17:51:43linuxstbPaulJam: I think it works by sending back the mime-type the user's browser sent when uploading the file.
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17:54:07*austriancoder eats a winner cake now *verygood*
17:54:37aliaskCongrats austriancoder!
17:55:45alienbiker99webguest64 how much
17:56:47webguest64idk depends on how much the person wants to offer i wus think around a hundred or sumthing
17:57:21alienbiker99webguest64 join #gigabeat and tell them
17:57:31webguest64idk how to do that
17:57:34markunwebguest64: USD?
17:57:39webguest64yes
17:57:51markunalienbiker99: it's not possible with the webclient
17:57:56alienbiker99oh ok
17:58:17webguest64i was hoping somebody over here could tell them for me
17:58:42alienbiker99just told em
17:58:49webguest64thanks a lot
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18:00:51webguest64do u think 100USD is to low, i was really thinking of 150-200USD but i did not want to sound selfish
18:01:09markunit's not very high no
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18:01:56alienbiker99brand new in box? unopened?
18:02:04webguest64no. its used
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18:13:24webguest64....hope i dont get ripped off, anyway thats all i wanted to say. thx for your help alienbiker99
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18:21:38KongKHelp please? The IPN-TWD-00-theme has no cursor/marker on my iPod Nano. Read FAQ and soforth, tried editing the theme, but can't figure our what to edit..
18:21:41pixieMy ipod is failing..
18:21:52pixieI have to format it but fdisk, cfdisk etc cannot open it
18:24:23markunKongK: do you mean the progress bar?
18:24:37markunpixie: what does fdisk say when you try to open it?
18:26:03KongKno, the marker in the menus, for navigating around. The wps is OK
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18:27:13markunKongK: I don't even think you can disable that marker. Maybe a problem with the colours or something
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18:29:04PaulJamKongK: does the theme have a black backdrop/background in the menus?
18:29:14KongKI think so as well, but do you now how/what to edit? I noticed that some themes
18:29:23KongKsorry...
18:29:34KongKPaul:Yes
18:31:20PaulJamKongK: then i guess the problem is that you are using the little arrow marker instead of the inverted bar as selector, which is black if you use the default icons
18:32:53markunanother good reason to remove it :)
18:33:13KongKThat makes sense. Marun: Hoeto?
18:33:13PaulJamKongK: to solve this you could either use a custom iconset which doesn't have a black cursor. or you could use the inverse bar selector (remove the line "invert cursor: off" fron the file .rockbox/config.cfg)
18:33:34KongKnice! will try. thanks!
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18:33:59markunKongK: well, it was removed because we all thought nobody used it, but then people started complaining and we put it back :)
18:34:44PaulJammarkun: i think it is planned for the future that the monochrome icons are drawn in foreground colour.
18:35:06markunPaulJam: sounds like a good plan
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18:36:35KongKEveryone: Thanks, works now!
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18:37:12markunKongK: you're welcome
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18:39:19KongKThis is an excellent project! Ipod without Ogg-support? Pah! Thanks again! I love this OSS-community feeling!
18:39:54markunand help is always welcome
18:40:20markunso if you think you can contribute in any way, feel free to do so
18:41:17KongKI would love to, but I'm not nearly competent enough...
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18:42:05bluebrotherKongK: well, there are quite a couple of options besides coding. Like supporting new users in the forums, or helping with the manual.
18:42:26Domonoky_or donating.. *hint* ..*hehe* :-)
18:43:05KongKI'm sort of a new user myself. Day three...
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18:44:20KongKBut I'm learning... ;-)
18:44:34alienbiker99gah im so stupid, the positive wire pulled out of my battery
18:45:11KongKDo you have a translations-team?
18:45:26markunnot really a team
18:45:36markunbut a lot of tranlations
18:46:07Domonoky_most of the translations are in the need of updates i think..
18:46:09markunKongK: any translation you are interested in?
18:46:25bluebrothertranslations are contributed by users
18:46:28KongKwell, I'm norwegian, so thats a start...
18:46:44KongKsmall language, though..
18:46:55markunwe have a norsk and nynorsk translation (but I guess you knew that)
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18:48:46nobutada55Can anyone help me with my Sansa E270?
18:48:52Domonoky_KongK: info about translations: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LangFiles
18:49:12markunnobutada55: probably not me, but what's wrong?
18:49:34nobutada55I want to figure out why my rockboy doesn't work.
18:50:08nobutada55I have heard other people playing gameboy games on theirs but mine doesn't load when I choose the game
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18:50:31alienbiker99nobutada55 did you see if it is supported on the sansa yet
18:50:57nobutada55Where can I find this information?
18:51:38Domonoky_http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebSearch?topic=PluginRockboy
18:52:05Domonoky_wiki says no sansa at moment, but it could be out of date..
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18:52:37markunnobutada55: do you have .rockbox/viewers/rockboy.rock on your sansa?
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18:53:18alienbiker99there might be a patch on flyspray for it
18:53:25nobutada55I'm pretty sure
18:54:32nobutada55Wrong firmware loaded now I have to wait...
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18:54:47PaulJamnobutada55: what happens if you select a .gb or .gbc file?
18:55:08nobutada55It shows the screen as if it was a music file
18:55:37markunnobutada55: can you "hold select" and then "open with" and then "rockboy"
18:55:45PaulJamare you using an official build?
18:56:09nobutada55Now it doesn't even load
18:56:21nobutada55I'll format it and reinstall
18:56:45markunok
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18:57:05PaulJamnobutada55: just to be sure. the files you are trying to open have the extension .gb or .gbc ?
18:57:31nobutada55.gb
18:57:41nobutada55pokemon blue to be exact
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19:00:41nobutada55Now that I formatted it, it trys to boot rockbox and turns off
19:01:05alienbiker99yeah, stick your usb cable in and put on the .rockbox folder
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19:01:18nobutada55It won't stay on
19:04:22alienbiker99put the cable in before you turn it on
19:04:30alienbiker99it should go into bootloader usb or soemthing
19:05:52nobutada55it was trying to load the bootloader for rockbox
19:06:11nobutada55I'm gonna do recovery mode with clean fw
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19:11:30nobutada55should I risk trying this install again?
19:11:56alienbiker99why wouldnt you
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19:15:34nobutada55okay it's installed
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19:18:28nobutada55Is there a way to change what firmware boots first?
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19:49:11amiconnjhMikeS: Wow, that was a quick fix :)
19:49:34amiconnGoing to try it now...
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20:07:44jhMikeSamiconn: on hwcodec it should probably check the number again in case the recording directory was changed. for swcodec it always rechecks since a format change or dir change will require a number reset.
20:08:26amiconnIt's working nicely...
20:08:37jhMikeSon which player?
20:08:40amiconnOn hdd units I never change the recording dir
20:08:43amiconnH180
20:10:55amiconnI'll now try the core lock patch on mini g1 w/o cpu scaling
20:11:14jhMikeSget the one off the page, the link posted had the bug
20:11:25amiconnyes I remember
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20:21:22amiconnjhMikeS: Anything special I should check with the core locking patch?
20:21:45jhMikeSif it gets past the splash, mpegplayer for sure
20:21:54amiconnok
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20:22:05amiconnmpegplayer is nasty on greyscale ipods though
20:22:27jhMikeSso long as it keeps running :)
20:22:46amiconn...because audio stutters like hell (libmad can't keep up b/c the greyscale lib is eating a lot of cpu)
20:24:18amiconnThis is only because we don't know how to handle the pp's lcd controller interface properly... another thing I wanted to find out by disassembling...
20:24:23jhMikeSgetting stuck at the splash seems to mean the cores are both permanently asleep. the very first patch actually run up to the mpegplayer test and the only difference was constantly setting cpsr |= 0x40
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20:25:04jhMikeSor 0x80 or whatever to disable IRQs (don't remember which bit) :P
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20:26:54amiconnBit 7 disables IRQ
20:26:57amiconnBit 6 is FIQ
20:27:37amiconnBut why would disabling IRQs make it work? I'd expect the opposite...
20:28:10jhMikeSjust turning them off when switching tasks and reenabling them
20:29:01amiconnBut that's not needed on other PPs... so why the 5020?
20:29:12amiconnBtw, is the patch tested on PP5002 already?
20:29:28jhMikeSso the first did that to prevent the core that owns the lock from having it's own interrupt try to lock the core lock again
20:29:54jhMikeSno, it's not and I can't without a cable
20:31:09jhMikeSthe patch you're trying removes interrupt interaction with the scheduler entirely and a system queue takes posts from interrupt handlers, then they're dispatch to the destination queue on the next task switch
20:31:22amiconnThe ipod connector is proprietary, but there's one good thing: all ipods use the same connector
20:31:48amiconnI also have just one cable here, but 3 ipods...
20:33:01*GodEater_ has about 4 cables, one of which is a firewire one
20:33:20lostlogicdamn, I can't find any m5 40gig available for sale
20:33:46amiconnjhMikeS: It hangs at the splash...
20:34:05amiconnThere are also some garbage pixels on the screen
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20:34:53jhMikeSsame ol, same ol
20:35:53jhMikeSI'm wondering if explicitly making sure interrupts for both cores are enabled just before sleeping would change things...hrm
20:35:55amiconnGarbage pixels vary between boot attempts
20:36:26amiconnBacklight stays on
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20:37:16jhMikeSwith no interrupts running I imagine it would :) ... I think it's just snoozing ... 'till I determine otherwise
20:38:01pixelmalostlogic: the only store I found that sales M5s at all was this one: http://stores.ebay.de/MP3-DIRECT - but only seen 20GB ones and the M5L (which is also 20 gig)
20:38:10CCCPI need some help with Rockbox.
20:38:29CCCPI am wondering how to synch. I tried using WMP
20:38:52peturCCCP: rockbox is just drag and drop
20:39:07CCCPHow do I delete?
20:39:09jhMikeSthis is the point where things get too tedious to ask someone to test every possible idea where I could check in minutes what would take all day to go through
20:39:24peturCCCP: most keyboards have a DEL key ;)
20:39:49CCCPI am wondering how to delete files from the player.
20:39:54peturin rockbox, select the file/dir and go to the conext menu
20:40:02petur*context
20:40:07CCCPThanks for the help.
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20:41:15*petur congratulates austriancoder on his first packet
20:43:14*jhMikeS thinks autriancoder must have removed all /me's code and _then_ it received a packet :P
20:43:15amiconnjhMikeS: I don't think it's just sleeping forever. The garbage pixels meanm something is running a wrong path...
20:43:55*petur is still trying to receive his first packet :(
20:44:46jhMikeSe200 runs all day with it as did one with a 5021 or 5022
20:45:31amiconnIs there something that is in iram for pp5021+ but not for pp5020?
20:46:14jhMikeSnot that I"m aware of and nothing that patch adds
20:46:18amiconnpp5020 has less iram, and dram will cause cache inconsistencies between the cores
20:46:52jhMikeSany shared data is in IRAM
20:47:32jhMikeSbut you said that player is pretty finicky anyway so something might be hiding out
20:48:19amiconnIt's both obvious and known that we're doing something wrong on pp5020
20:48:30lostlogicpixelma: tanks
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20:49:05amiconnThe "only" question is _what_
20:49:28dk2hi all
20:49:58dk2does somebody have this file on his harddrive rockbox-jbuild-20060726-ipodvideo.zip
20:50:05dk2it's because the link is dead at the moment..
20:50:14dk2? :-)
20:50:36*amiconn doubts that someone in here has that
20:50:54amiconn(1) it's almost 11 months old (2) it's an unsupported build
20:51:25markunis that from before the menu change?
20:51:45dk2puhh i don't know i have my ipod for 2 days :-)
20:52:12peturdk2: use more recent version...
20:52:43jhMikeSso how to explain the difference when always changing cpsr? and how a simple locking mechanism would change things so radically? so odd.
20:52:46dk2could you tell me a good one? :)
20:53:07dk2i have the ipod video 30gb
20:53:07peturwhy don't you run the current official build?
20:53:31dk2because i had trouble with the themes...
20:54:07Domonoky_someone with Linux and the ability to build and test rbutil here ??
20:54:23dk2i want to use the jclix theme
20:54:30*petur curses the fact that there are themes on rockbox.org that require unsupported builds
20:54:37*Domonoky_ reworked the device detection of rbutl..
20:55:12markundk2: do you know which patches are required for that theme?
20:55:28lostlogicpixelma: what thickness is the M5 20's drive? 5mm?
20:55:33markunmaybe you can find some builds in the 'unsupported builds' forum which use the same patches
20:55:53peturhttp://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?board=36.0
20:58:00pixelmalostlogic: it's a single platter, that's all I know, the "normal" M5 is thinner than the M5L (more info here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DeviceChart#Cowon_units)
20:58:21amiconnlostlogic: Yes, standard single platter 1.8"
20:59:02dk2thx for help petur
20:59:14oboDomonoky_: yes
20:59:37lostlogicjust lookin' if I read this correctly, toshiba makes a mk4007gal which could be used in that configuration
20:59:45lostlogichttp://sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx?Path=HardDrivesOpticalDrives/1.8-inchHardDiskDrives/MK4007GAL
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21:00:32pixelmayes, think so too
21:00:50Domonoky_obo: would be nice if you test the detection of the device on linux.. :-)
21:00:51peturlostlogic: as with all those drives, check that you can actually buy them ;)
21:01:03lostlogicpetur: looks like it's available at least in the UK :-P
21:01:22peturDomonoky_: I could give it a try, what needs to be build?
21:01:24Domonoky_it would also be good if someone could test on Mac.. linuxstb ??
21:01:37Domonoky_rbutil..
21:01:54amiconnlostlogic: The MK4007GAL would definitely fit
21:02:15Domonoky_petur: it needs wx2.8 to build rbutil...
21:02:37peturDomonoky_: reallife interrupt, back in 30
21:02:53Domonoky_petur: int ack :-)
21:03:14oboDomonoky_: fails to build here: http://www.pastebin.ca/584403
21:03:58Domonoky_obo: ups.. :-)
21:05:29Domonoky_obo: please try again, i commited a fix :-)
21:06:23oboDomonoky_: still has the error at autodetection.cpp:210
21:06:49markunlostlogic: did you see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement
21:07:03Domonoky_arg.. i should learn to read.. :-/
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21:09:14pixelmamarkun: this site is missing some cowon info... *asking myself what "ins" are* ;)
21:09:16Domonoky_obo: and again please..
21:09:38markunpixelma: it's a wiki.. :)
21:09:38Domonoky_i hope its working now.. or will stop coding for today.. :-/
21:09:39pixelmamarkun: that just changed now...
21:09:42markunok
21:10:54oboDomonoky_: [INFO] Ipod found - Video (aka 5th Generation) ("winpod") - /dev/sde
21:11:04markunpixelma: do you think the tables should be sorted by thickness?
21:11:09obois that what you're after?
21:11:33Domonoky_obo: ah you have an ipod, so it does a shortcut :-)
21:11:53oboah, oops
21:12:04amiconnmarkun: So the gigabeat X series also has ZIF?
21:12:08markunyes
21:12:10Domonoky_because for ipods and sansa we have the patchers..
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21:12:39Domonoky_obo: but thanxs, we killed a bad issue at least :-)
21:12:50markunamiconn: ah, I see where I've forgotten that..
21:12:52oboyup, at least it will compile now :)
21:13:25pixelmamarkun: I think sorting by device (as is) is fine - especially since that is in the first column
21:13:55amiconnmarkun: It's on the page... I just thought that only the ipod video used zif
21:14:12amiconnBut then the gigabeat X is a rare beast iirc...
21:14:19pixelmaor do you mean the table with the possible replacements ?
21:14:26markunwell, it's a smaller lighter F with a bigger screen
21:14:45markunand no button leds
21:14:57*amiconn wonders why so many manufacturers forget to add a radio...
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21:15:18amiconnOf course it would be even better to have a dab tuner
21:15:38markunyes, I would prefer a DAB tuner indeed
21:15:50alienbiker99yo
21:16:18amiconnIs there _any_ DAP with a DAB tuner?
21:16:30markunamiconn: but the Gigabeat S includes a radio
21:16:49*amiconn wonders what the heck the manufacturers are doing...
21:17:11markunamiconn: http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2005/09/first_dab_radio.html
21:17:14pixelmaI believe linuxstb once mentioned a dap with DAB
21:17:38amiconnThere's this goal in europe to have radio and tv broadcast fully digital by the end of 2010... not very much time left
21:18:13markunamiconn: http://www.mpio.com/product/productview_pd100.html
21:18:57amiconnHmm, only small-capacity flash players
21:21:23peturDomonoky_: rfi
21:21:56Domonoky_petur: which player(s) do you have ?
21:21:58markunamiconn: we should build one :)
21:22:07peturh380
21:22:24Domonoky_petur: thats good, would be nice if you could test rbutil :-)
21:23:09Domonoky_it should now detect your player (if you click on the button) (but only if you have already rockbox installed) :-)
21:23:55peturDomonoky_: err... how do you build rbutil... any links?
21:24:34Domonoky_petur: you must have wxwidgets 2.8 installed. the you can you "make" in the rbutil dir..
21:25:50amiconnHmm. Albrecht makes several dab/mp3 devices: http://www.albrecht-online.de/dab/dabuebersicht.php3 (german)
21:26:12amiconnThe DR306 has an sd/mmc slot supporting up to 2GB
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21:28:32EZ64ey all
21:28:34EZ64hey all
21:28:36EZ64anyone therE?
21:29:06peturno
21:29:10EZ64^&^
21:29:15EZ64anyone got rock the box installed?
21:29:17petur110 bots
21:29:21peturno
21:29:32EZ64ive got it on my video 30gb ipod
21:29:37*petur hands prize for stupid questions
21:29:41EZ64and want to use doom 95 and others on therE?
21:29:59Domonoky_we should really remove doom :-)
21:30:15EZ64so can it be done with this kernal?
21:30:35*scorche facepalms
21:30:44Domonoky_EZ64: read the webpage or the manual or the wiki...
21:30:51markunEZ64: sorry, I think the people in here know very little about Doom
21:30:52EZ64nothign on there
21:31:00EZ64i was tlaking abotu rock the box
21:31:04EZ64this is the irc
21:31:21scorcheit is explained in the manual
21:31:41EZ64thanks for the help douches
21:31:43markunEZ64: does it give you an error when you try to use doom 95?
21:31:47EZ64why are you even in this irc?
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21:32:07markunyes, why..
21:32:32markunwell, we could have been a bit friendlier
21:32:57scorchehe would have reacted the same way when we told him to read the manual
21:33:23markunstill, I wouldn't have minded holding his hand a little
21:33:49*scorche just facepalmed....which most people of that sort dont understand
21:34:08markunhe was of the doom playing sort?
21:34:25scorchehe was of the rock the box sort
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21:39:26egandtHello I have a problem with bookmarks, I can not create one
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21:39:45peturDomonoky_: I'm not managing to install wxwidgets. the "curl ..." step gives an error here (no writable keyring found)
21:40:13peturfollowing http://www.wxwidgets.org/downloads/ to install on Feisty
21:41:03Domonoky_petur: try without the keys..
21:41:46markunegandt: are you using the database?
21:41:53peturI did, gives an error about signatures (maybe it did install - must check)
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21:42:09egandtno just a playlist from a filesystem directory
21:42:31egandtI think that perhaps I need a directory in which to create the bookmakr, but I'm not sure
21:43:10egandtThe code seems to indecate that bookmarks are created in a directory, but I do not know where this directory is?
21:43:53markunegandt: the are created in the directory above the current one
21:44:22egandtso then if I just create one for a playlist since playlists are store in /playlists then it should be created in /
21:44:39markunhm, not sure what happens if you play from a playlist
21:45:07egandtok, thanks, its weird as it worked previously
21:45:26Domonoky_petur: if it doesnt work, dont worry, others will test rbutil :-)
21:46:04*petur swears a bit at the user-unfriendlyness of linux
21:47:01Domonoky_somehow most distros dont seem to like wx .. :-/
21:47:08markunegandt: maybe ask again here later when there are people who know
21:47:27peturI also had to install curl, Bagder will be happy ;)
21:48:02Domonoky_:-)
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21:53:45peturoh wow, looking up the wxwidgets install error I get gives 5 links, most in Italian
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21:55:38peturseems it has to do with 64bit, but I run a normal x86 ubuntu :(
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21:56:02egandtI got part of it working, since bookmarks are stored in <current/.. if the playlist is in / then you can not bookmark it
21:56:29egandtthe real question is how to set where playlists are created since it should be /playlists and not / by default
21:56:37egandtThanks,
21:56:38egandtERIC
21:58:37Domonoky_egandt: where the playlist are stored, depends on where and how there are created..
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21:59:24amiconnBut rockbox failing to bookmark when the playlist is stored in the root sounds like a bug
21:59:51amiconnFor dynamic directory playlists it already handles this case
21:59:57amiconnHmm, or maybe not?
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22:00:09*amiconn might confuse this w/ playlist creation
22:00:35Domonoky_playlist creation handels this.. ie the root.m3u..
22:00:51Domonoky_but the bookmark code, i dont know...
22:01:22amiconnMe neither
22:01:46*amiconn uses bookmarks once a year or so
22:02:15amiconn...and virtually never in conjunction with a file based playlist
22:02:44*markun uses it for audiobooks
22:03:09*amiconn has no audio books
22:03:12markun(including ebooks read with eSpeak :)
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22:03:37Domonoky_there is bookmark code for this case, but there could be bugs..
22:04:45AceNik_hey guys what does this update do ? "Allow forward references of menus in tagnavi.config." does this mean i can "point a particular directory" in database view?
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22:07:05markunAceNik_: it probably means you can refer to items which are further down the tagnavi file (but I don't know how to use tagnavi.config)
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22:07:47AceNik_markun : is it possible to point a menu on the player in the tagnavi.config please gimme the structure if you know
22:08:14markun"I don't know how to use tagnavi.config"
22:08:35AceNik_markun: ok thanks
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22:10:39peturDomonoky_: I solved the issue (yuck), what should I apt-get to install? There's so much wxwidgets files
22:11:24AceNik_anyone her kno how to point a directory in the database view?
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22:12:44SlasheriAceNik_: that is not yet possible to do
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22:12:50webguest53hello, I would like to contribute a file (FMpresets) and I don't have write permission to do it, my TWiki username is GermanGatica
22:13:14AceNik_slasheri: ok ? but any idea where to start if i want to try ?
22:13:17Domonoky_petur: if i could remember it... hm..
22:13:31SlasheriAceNik_: check the apps/tagtree.c code
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22:14:24peturDomonoky_: nm, found it in our wiki
22:16:49Domonoky_petur: ah .. thats new..
22:17:39peturhmmm still doesn't buidl, complains about wx-config not found
22:17:45petur*build
22:18:08Domonoky_hm, apt-get should have installed it..
22:18:25Domonoky_what happens if you type wx-config in the console ?
22:19:16peturit tells me where tio get it :)
22:19:38peturI'm adding some stuff to the wiki for later ubuntu devs...
22:19:53Domonoky_wx-config is used by the make file to find the wx headers and libs..
22:20:04Domonoky_petur: thats good..
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22:28:58XbooXDoes anyone know how to revert to the default Display settings? changing the icons made the icons and text disapear. iPod 80GB
22:29:53Domonoky_XbooX: if you switch on hold directly after boot, all settings will be cleared..
22:30:24Domonoky_or you could edit the config.cfg file on the PC with a texteditor..
22:30:46pixelmawebguest53: promise not to spam? ;)
22:31:11pixelmawebguest53: but you should be able to edit the wiki now
22:31:11webguest53yes, i promise
22:31:29pixelma:)
22:31:44webguest53thank you very much
22:31:53*petur runs rbutil
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22:32:36*Domonoky_ awaits peturs comments :-)
22:32:59*petur does svn update to get the correct version ;)
22:33:16XbooXDomonoky_ i tried hold but that didnt seem to do anything
22:34:02dionoeaBagder: ping.
22:34:08Domonoky_XbooX: if done right it should display a "cleared" splash..
22:34:12Bagderyes?
22:34:39Domonoky_XbooX: you switch the hold switch to late, i think..
22:34:41dionoeaBagder: did the rsync download issue happen aga in?
22:34:54Bagderlemme check...
22:35:06XbooXDomonoky_: im editing the config.cfg
22:35:10peturDomonoky_: iriver H320,H340 detected
22:35:42Domonoky_petur: nice.. :-)
22:35:56XbooXdo you know what the default values are?
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22:36:47Bagderdionoea: yes it did, this morning several hours
22:36:48markunDomonoky_: could you also detect the disk size to display H380?
22:36:59peturDomonoky_: autodetection.h:47:1: warning: "/*" within comment
22:37:39dionoeaBagder: but you have the file list this time ? (so we can try to see what's happening)
22:37:43Domonoky_petur: thanx will fix, with the next bigger commit :-) its not a problem..
22:38:23Domonoky_markun: i just check the .rockbox/rockbox-info.txt file..
22:38:28peturDomonoky_: browsing themes does a lot of anoying window flashing
22:38:39Bagderdionoea: I thought I would but I don't see any such (it was Bjorn who changed that)
22:38:46dionoeaerf
22:38:53Domonoky_petur: yeah, but it works :-)
22:38:57Bagderyeah :-/
22:39:09dionoeaI'll enable it on my side so we get it tomorrow
22:39:25Bagdergoodie
22:39:46dionoeacould it be a timezone issue ? like timestamps don't match because of that
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22:39:57*Domonoky_ will now take a look at bacon_boys patch for nicer buttons in rbutil :-)
22:40:26Bagderdionoea: hang on, I think I was wrong just now...
22:42:40Bagderyeah I was, false alarm
22:42:49Bagderyour rsync is doing fine
22:43:02BagderI didn't properly align the sizes with the hosts
22:43:06dionoeaah, cool :)
22:43:17*dionoea can now enjoy a nice week end
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22:59:36thebean69how stable is the current svn version of the iriver h120/140 bootloder?
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23:00:06thebean69i want to test it out, but I don't want to brick my player
23:00:22Domonoky_thats not recommended.. :-)
23:00:51Domonoky_if you screw up, you would need a BDM device to recover.. or you need LinusN :-)
23:01:16thebean69I found some bugs with 7-pre3 and want to see if they got fixed before I submit a bug report
23:01:34thebean69what's LinusN?
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23:01:49Domonoky_i think the official version is 6 ?
23:02:21thebean69but with 7-pre3 you can totally eliminate the factory firmware
23:02:24Domonoky_LinusN is a person, one of the founders of rockbox, and he has a bdm... :-)
23:02:33thebean69I see :)
23:02:48Domonoky_ah, thats the version with flash support ?
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23:02:55thebean69yep
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23:03:05Domonoky_i think Slasheri is the person for this :-)
23:03:21thebean692 images - one boots directly from ROM and one is loaded into RAM first
23:03:28Domonoky_hes "Mr. Flasherei" :-)
23:03:34Domonoky_hes = he is
23:03:38Slasherithebean69: i don't think the svn version is stable, it had some serious issued reported some time ago..
23:03:51SlasheriLinusN should try it first
23:04:08thebean69I won't risk it then. I like mine too much
23:04:17Slasherieven i am afraid of trying that because i don't have a bdm either :)
23:04:41thebean69I do use multiple types at work, though. Maybe one of them would work
23:04:46Xerionthe one that is in the iriver boot flashing or something article worked completely fine before, but when i recently updated, i can't set default boot option anymore
23:04:50Xerionwhich is a bit annoying :p
23:04:50thebean69types of BDMs
23:04:52Slasheriand i already bricked my iriver once while developing the bootloader, fortunately it got fixed then :)
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23:05:35SlasheriXerion: do you have the latest version of rockbox?
23:05:44Slasheriand what do you mean that you cannot set it?
23:05:46thebean69Xerion - I saw that bug too. It got fixed in the latest svn version of rockbox
23:05:57Xerionwell it's from a week ago or so
23:06:02Xerionnot quite sure
23:06:05thebean69something to do with the display loops getting optimized away
23:06:07Slasheriah, then you need to update
23:06:16Xerionand i hadn't updated for quite a while before that :p
23:06:25Xerionok, i will then soon :p
23:06:41thebean69what kind of BDM would I need?
23:07:15Bagderhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBDM
23:08:01thebean69ahh
23:08:39thebean69I use a wiggler BDM at work, but it only has 10 pins or so
23:09:22Bagderwigglers can sometimes get connected using a varying set of pins
23:09:34Bagderusing different connectors
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23:13:05thebean69does anyone here know if the text bug for the iriver remote got fixed in the latest bootloader?
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23:13:45thebean69the 7-pre3 version's boot menu repeats itself (on the remote, that is)
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23:17:39DerPapstGood evening :)
23:17:50thebean69hello
23:18:26thebean69DerPapst, do you know anything about the iriver 120/140 bootloader?
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23:21:05DerPapstsorry... only iPod ones
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23:28:17PaulJamhi, i noticed something srange with the filetypecolours. when you don't use a backdrop then the text of the selected item is drawn in the custom colour instead of the backgroundcolour and if the ustom colour is only slightly different from the foregroundcolour it is hard to read.
23:28:31PaulJami was wondering if this is a bug or intended
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23:30:45SoapGodEater_: do you use the software EQ?
23:31:17SoapDerPapst: do we know the 5.5g has a different battery? I was running under the belief it didn't.
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23:34:15*Domonoky_ thinks about embedding png images into rbutil.. would it be bad to include *.cpp files with a struct with the data in it ? ( generated of course)
23:35:24Domonoky_because normally you shouldnt include .cpp files.. but xpm isnt better..
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23:36:36linuxstbDo you mean #include them, or link them?
23:37:01Domonoky_#include them..
23:37:34linuxstbWhy not just compile and link them?
23:37:45Domonoky_perhaps i should modify the generator to also generate .h files..
23:38:25Domonoky_then i could compile them seperatly..
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23:43:22menthi
23:44:15mentI have some problem with my ipod mini (2nd), I installed rockbox on it about 3 months ago
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23:44:59mentand yesterday when i turned it on it freezed in the apple screen, reset didn't help
23:45:29Soapment: barring a hardware failure Reset (Menu + Select) will always work if done properly.
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23:47:25mentwhen I press menu + select for ~6secs it resets, but then it freezes in apple screen again
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23:49:16mentand connected to usb it infinitely loops in power on -> apple screen -> backlight on -> power off
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23:51:51PaulJamment: can you force it into disk mode by holding play+select immediately when it boots after resetting?
23:53:36Soapcan you now (could you ever) hear the microdrive spin?
23:53:43mentwow, this works
23:53:55mentPaulJam: thanks
23:54:15mentSoap: flash based
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23:54:34Soapyou swapped out the MD in your mini?
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23:58:13mentsoap: ah, sorry, i thought that ipod mini is flash based
23:58:55Soapif you are able to mount the mini while in disk mode, and manipulate files on it, my theory of a dying microdrive is weak.

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