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00:01:55 | * | DerPapst wonders how many target amiconn already has |
00:02:01 | DerPapst | *targets |
00:02:14 | * | Llorean wants to shake people in the forums sometimes. |
00:02:19 | amiconn | DerPapst: 10 |
00:02:34 | * | Llorean only has 5 :(\ |
00:02:44 | * | krazykit only has 1 :-O |
00:02:45 | DerPapst | wow o.O |
00:03:00 | * | DerPapst has at least 2 different :P |
00:03:19 | amiconn | Well 9 working and 1 to-be-ported |
00:03:28 | amiconn | My targets are all different |
00:04:02 | * | pixelma has also 2 :\ |
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00:05:55 | * | DerPapst doesn't have enough money to have more ;) |
00:06:04 | amiconn | bah |
00:06:08 | * | DerPapst says "moo" |
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00:08:10 | fluxam | The 036 rbutil did not autodetect my Sansa e280. I'm in 64bit Gutsy Gibbon now; you have no amd64 rbutil. |
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00:08:35 | * | DerPapst notes that today more /me's are used than normal... errm.. thingys |
00:08:58 | amiconn | actions |
00:09:26 | fluxam | I plugged in via USB and icons appear on desktop, which I can browse, but the player say "Disconnected." |
00:09:30 | DerPapst | i thought /me is the action |
00:09:36 | pixelma | speaking in first person |
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00:09:47 | DerPapst | ^ exactly :D |
00:10:03 | fluxam | I'll go home to my Macbook and see if rbutil will work on that. |
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00:24:53 | klbostee | I've got a sansa e260 and all of a sudden I am not able to make a USB connection to it from linux (ubuntu) |
00:25:15 | klbostee | anyone who experienced the same problem (and knows a solution)? |
00:25:49 | Llorean | klbostee: It's not exactly a Rockbox concern, is it? Since we don't have any USB mode. |
00:26:20 | klbostee | I know |
00:26:28 | amiconn | G1/g2 have no RTC... |
00:26:33 | klbostee | just thought that maybe someone knew a solution... |
00:27:06 | iamben | klbostee: check dmesg for errors, check to see the device node was created, try mounting it by hand |
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00:27:57 | klbostee | iamben: do you the command I should use to mount it by hand? |
00:28:53 | iamben | did dmesg show a device node being added? for example mine shows a line like sd 29:0:0:0: [sdd] Assuming drive cache: write through |
00:29:14 | iamben | meaning /dev/sdd is the sansa, and /dev/sdd1 is the partition we are interested in |
00:29:26 | klbostee | [ 78.576000] usb 5-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3 |
00:29:26 | klbostee | [ 79.688000] usb 5-5: device descriptor read/64, error -71 |
00:29:41 | iamben | that would be a problem |
00:29:58 | iamben | are you in the default fw, or rockbox atm? |
00:29:58 | klbostee | hmm.. did the filesystem get corrupted somehow or so? |
00:30:17 | iamben | thats a usb issue, not filesystem |
00:30:17 | klbostee | default now |
00:31:05 | iamben | and if you unplug & replug the sansa, all that shows in dmesg are errors like that? |
00:31:05 | klbostee | I connected it a few times while rockbox was still running by mistake though |
00:31:13 | klbostee | yeah |
00:31:25 | klbostee | it used to work great, and it still works in windows |
00:31:49 | iamben | well thats the error i get when rockbox is running rather than the default firmware when i plug it in |
00:31:51 | bluebrother | nice. New wps tag added and already it's buggy :o |
00:33:53 | klbostee | hmm, could that error still be there from the time I plugged it in when running rockbox maybe? |
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00:34:23 | klbostee | it might also not give any errors at all now |
00:34:28 | iamben | well on mine, i just unplug it, boot the normal fw, and plug it in again and it goes back to normal |
00:34:51 | klbostee | i;e. the sansa says "connected", but nothing seems to happen |
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00:36:04 | DerPapst | bluebrother: do you mean %px? |
00:37:33 | klbostee | iamben: do you think it is possible that these troubles are caused by a corrupted filesystem? |
00:37:37 | iamben | klbostee: if you are for sure are in the default sandisk firmware, and plugging it in doesnt say ANYTHING about a sansa attached, something is wrong w/ your usb system |
00:38:22 | iamben | it would have to successfully detect a usb storage device before it could even think about looking for a filesystem |
00:38:49 | iamben | if you have it modularized, try unloading/reloading all of your usb modules... or *gasp* reboot |
00:39:06 | * | DerPapst wonders how one could mix up rockbox and the OF |
00:39:15 | klbostee | well, I am quite sure |
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00:39:50 | klbostee | I have experienced this problem between multiple reboots though :( |
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00:41:30 | pixelma | bluebrother: do you mean that progress thing? |
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00:42:03 | klbostee | hmm.. tryed another USB port, and now it works... |
00:42:10 | * | DerPapst hates randomly crashing apps :-/ |
00:42:43 | Arathis | amiconn: just saw your recent commits (80MHz and LCD speedup). Are they tested and stable? In this case I'd update now, but otherwise I won't cause I need my player to run 6-7h tomorrow .. |
00:42:59 | amiconn | They are stable for me |
00:43:23 | klbostee | weird.. but thanks for helping me out iamben |
00:44:03 | klbostee | thanks to you I didn't do an unnessary reformat :) |
00:45:36 | Arathis | amiconn: I'll just make a backup of my .rockbox on the player so I can easily exchange the builds :) |
00:47:07 | Arathis | well .. on the other hand it might be somehow difficult to delete .rockbox while it's running .. |
00:48:13 | amiconn | It's not, as long as you aren't playing music |
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00:54:33 | klbostee | iambem: btw, it works again using the other port now.. really weird |
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00:55:45 | iamben | i've had such an issue before, not w/ a sansa but w/ another device where i could enable/disable usb mass storage support on the fly |
00:56:10 | iamben | it got the idea that this usb device did NOT function properly, and even after i set it back to UMS mode it would continue throwing the same error |
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00:58:10 | DerPapst | heh "* This config file is for the Apple iPod 3g" from firmware/export/config-ipod1g2g.h :P |
00:58:54 | amiconn | frrrm |
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01:02:10 | DerPapst | sry ;) |
01:04:28 | amiconn | Hmm, it does have an rtc... |
01:05:37 | amiconn | Ah, no |
01:05:53 | amiconn | There is a clock in the OF, but no rtc |
01:06:26 | amiconn | Resetting the ipod resets the time. |
01:06:36 | DerPapst | yep... |
01:07:21 | amiconn | Somehow it manages to read the time from the PC via the firewire connection... |
01:07:39 | DerPapst | wow o.O |
01:07:45 | DerPapst | didn't know that |
01:08:06 | amiconn | Just connecting and disconnecting is enough to set the time |
01:08:24 | DerPapst | wonder how it's doing that |
01:08:49 | amiconn | magic ;) |
01:08:53 | DerPapst | hehe |
01:08:56 | amiconn | Btw, check my latest commit ;) |
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01:09:40 | * | DerPapst is happy now ;) |
01:10:14 | amiconn | umm? |
01:10:28 | amiconn | bygg.haxx.se segfaulted while building the H10 bootloader... |
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01:10:34 | * | Llorean had just noticed that too |
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01:17:19 | Arathis | amiconn: new bootloader? |
01:17:47 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: Are you sure the Apple updater didn't install an ipodservice.exe or similar? (thinking about how the time was set...) |
01:19:03 | amiconn | gah! |
01:19:27 | DerPapst | i guess that means yes |
01:19:30 | DerPapst | :D |
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01:20:03 | amiconn | I won't install the updater right now, because I might need it again for the G1 |
01:20:46 | amiconn | *UNinstall |
01:21:08 | * | linuxstb_ should add conversion to ipodpatcher - the formatting code is already there, it just needs the partition table writing |
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01:22:03 | DerPapst | i thought formatting didn't work as expected (esp. on 5.5G iPods) |
01:22:30 | Arathis | amiconn: why a new bootloader for the H10s? |
01:22:46 | amiconn | No new bootloader... |
01:23:14 | linuxstb_ | DerPapst: AFAIK, it works fine for 512-byte sectors. Someone who knows more about FAT than me will need to add 2048-byte support. |
01:23:15 | amiconn | Bootloaders are built from svn on every commit, in order to check whether a commit breaks them |
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01:23:23 | saratoga | linuxstb: I just sample per sample compared a 320CBR Mp3 with adn without the MAD ASM patch and the files were identical |
01:23:24 | Arathis | ah, okay |
01:23:28 | saratoga | linuxstb_: you too :) |
01:23:45 | amiconn | That doesn't mean you should use them (and they aren't provided for download either) |
01:23:48 | DefineByte | when compiling rockbox is there any way to specifiy the target platform in a script (with bash)? |
01:24:44 | linuxstb_ | DefineByte: You can use echo or printf to pipe the responses to tools/configure |
01:24:45 | DefineByte | does tools/configure accept any arguments? |
01:25:08 | linuxstb_ | e.g. printf "20\nN\n" | ../tools/configure |
01:25:13 | DefineByte | really? thanks. only used bash for a day. xD |
01:25:36 | amiconn | acbuild.pl does that afaik |
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01:30:54 | DefineByte | o it works (suprise). I'm a linux virgin, >.> |
01:31:38 | DefineByte | surprise (sp) |
01:31:50 | DefineByte | anyway, thanks again |
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01:35:53 | nekura42 | test |
01:36:23 | nekura42 | can't even read my own text... guess I reboot Colloquy |
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01:36:54 | nekura42 | better |
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03:06:10 | krylon | What's the easiest way to create a playlist of everything on your drive |
03:07:45 | Llorean | If it's in a Music folder, just insert that folder |
03:08:02 | Llorean | If not, while in the root, use the option to create a playlist in the menus. |
03:08:09 | Llorean | Make sure that recursive insertion is enabled. |
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03:08:19 | Llorean | There's plenty of info on these options in the manual. |
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03:21:49 | d4rkmonkey | Hey, i have a 30GB 5.5G iPod Video and it just stopped turning on today, I put it in the charger but it doesn't seem to be charging, could this be because of rockbox? |
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03:26:08 | d4rkmonkey | anyone? |
03:27:56 | Llorean | Have you tried the full reset procedure? |
03:30:55 | krylon | Llorean thanks for the help. I tried searching for it but was unsuccessful |
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04:26:50 | JdGordon | ::) |
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06:14:23 | webguest74 | how do you boot into the apple firmware using a ipod video |
06:14:38 | Llorean | webguest74: It's in the manual, in the Quick Start chapter. |
06:15:32 | webguest74 | tnaks |
06:15:40 | webguest74 | thanks* |
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06:20:12 | rocko | hi |
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06:20:36 | rocko | how to increase the size of the font |
06:22:03 | scorche | change the font |
06:22:11 | scorche | this is explained in the manual |
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06:22:38 | rocko | ok |
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06:33:36 | jhMikeS | what is this jumpscroll thing? I don't see the settings used anywhere at all but just as a setting in the menus. It's charmode btw. |
06:34:26 | Llorean | Jumpscroll? |
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06:34:45 | jhMikeS | yeah. jump_scroll, jump_scroll_delay. |
06:35:16 | Llorean | Is that the scroll acceleration jdgordon added? |
06:35:30 | jhMikeS | I don't think so. |
06:35:33 | Llorean | Or "list acceleration" |
06:35:36 | * | JdGordon doesnt either |
06:35:37 | Llorean | It jumps entries |
06:35:41 | * | Llorean shrugs |
06:35:44 | Llorean | Dunno then |
06:35:53 | jhMikeS | lcd-charcell.c has functions to set variables in the driver, but no use of it. |
06:35:58 | Llorean | By the way, finally got to try the new sansa scrolling. That's *nice* |
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06:36:50 | jhMikeS | so it works? :) good to hear. I hope noone demands a setting since I tried to pick values that seem comfortable. |
06:37:04 | JdGordon | yeah, dont tihnk it needs |
06:37:20 | Llorean | Yeah, I don't think a setting would be appropriate. |
06:37:32 | Llorean | Very long lists still take a bit to get through, but I think they always will |
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06:38:19 | Llorean | Only about 10 seconds for a 640 entry list, so not too bad. |
06:38:34 | Llorean | And it feels quite natural |
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06:41:12 | jhMikeS | try flicking the wheel fast a few times. it should get through it in a few. |
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06:42:17 | jhMikeS | seems a bit resistant to flicking at low clock speed :\ |
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06:43:23 | Llorean | Yeah, I can't *quite* move it fast enough, regularly enough I think. |
06:43:49 | jhMikeS | If the CPU speed is 80MHz it works right. I wonder what the deal is. |
06:44:19 | Llorean | How do I add boost. |
06:44:25 | Llorean | I can't figure out what button in the CPU freq screen |
06:44:35 | alienbiker99 | up? |
06:44:40 | jhMikeS | Debug|CPU Frequency. Turn the wheel left. |
06:44:48 | Llorean | Ah |
06:44:56 | Llorean | That didn't work after I accidentally set it to 24mhz |
06:45:27 | jhMikeS | should go back to 80 with a wheel turn. it's working here. |
06:45:34 | Llorean | Ah well, I have it 80 now |
06:45:47 | Llorean | Feels about the same at 80 to me, but I didn't have music playing while unboosted. |
06:45:56 | Llorean | But I have a bit of a hard time with the wheel on the Sansa. |
06:46:18 | Llorean | It works well enough though. I'd like to see the iPods work the same, at least. |
06:47:44 | jhMikeS | about the only preference it might need is to change the speed scale |
06:48:10 | Llorean | How fast "fast" is? |
06:49:12 | jhMikeS | well it's c*v^2 basically. so changing c would change the feel of the fast speeds more than the slower ones. |
06:50:14 | jhMikeS | absolute is 7*v^2 on sansa v = click/uS in 0.24 fixed point |
06:51:34 | Llorean | Might as well try adding a menu option to control c then, right? People like scroll speed settings. |
06:51:56 | amiconn | mo0ning |
06:52:17 | * | amiconn was reminded that jump scroll is still waiting to be fixed :\ |
06:52:19 | jhMikeS | I was thinking so |
06:52:40 | jhMikeS | amiconn: so it's not dead, just unborn? |
06:52:55 | alienbiker99 | is there anybody working on the trackpad on the H10? |
06:53:05 | amiconn | It is broken since my player lcd driver rework |
06:53:46 | amiconn | I was planning to fix it but then forgot about it |
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06:54:16 | amiconn | In fact I wanted to make it work on bitmap targets as well |
06:54:33 | jhMikeS | amiconn: but what is it for? |
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07:00:49 | * | jhMikeS found the reference to it |
07:04:26 | * | JdGordon wonders what it is also |
07:05:07 | JdGordon | oh, thats not the scroll horizontally by chars instead of pixels is it? |
07:05:25 | amiconn | Jump scroll is for scrolling text lines a screen width at a time |
07:05:29 | jhMikeS | It's basically moves the test over one full screen at a time instead of by pixel increments |
07:05:52 | amiconn | (minus some so that the line starts with a word boundary in the next step |
07:07:09 | amiconn | It was possible to set how often this happens when the text line was changed until it switches to standard scrolling |
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07:10:59 | amiconn | It's a useful feature if the text is very long compared to screen width (very common on the player, but can happen on any target with a large enough font) |
07:11:06 | amiconn | You get a quick overview |
07:11:27 | amiconn | It might also be more pleasant on the slow H1x0 LCD |
07:11:33 | Llorean | Probably |
07:15:51 | alienbiker99 | will the h3x0 ever get a flashed bootloader like the h1x0 has? |
07:16:17 | Llorean | Um, the H3x0 already has a flashed bootloader |
07:16:22 | Llorean | Do you mean running Rockbox from flash? |
07:17:04 | alienbiker99 | yes |
07:17:17 | Llorean | Well, someone with an H300 needs to do the work |
07:17:29 | Llorean | It should be as possible as it was for the H100 |
07:17:34 | alienbiker99 | ah ok |
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08:06:58 | aliask | linuxstb__: Around? |
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08:22:09 | bahahah | Undefined instruction at 400163A4 this is all my Ipod says after installing rockbox... I get the splash and that is all, Ipod photo 20 GB just formatted |
08:22:26 | bahahah | anyone have any Idea what is going on with this thing? |
08:23:36 | Llorean | You downloaded from the "current build" link? |
08:24:23 | bahahah | current build about 4 days ago, I had issues getting itunes to reformat the Ipod itself |
08:24:33 | Llorean | Please be using an actual current build. |
08:24:51 | bahahah | so that it would accept the Ipod patcher |
08:25:05 | bahahah | ok I'll give that a shot and come back |
08:25:06 | Llorean | It's really not helpful if you're reporting problems in a 4-day old version that might've been fixed. |
08:25:30 | GodEater | morning all |
08:25:41 | bahahah | very true. sorry. sleep deprvation seems to skew logic |
08:26:01 | Llorean | In fact, I believe this problem (the frequency scaling bug) should specifically be fixed now. |
08:26:24 | bahahah | Good night mister eater |
08:26:30 | bahahah | bbl |
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08:36:09 | GodEater | bad night on the forums Llorean ? |
08:36:30 | Llorean | GodEater: I've been sick for the last week, eating about a meal a day. I think I'm just cranky |
08:36:48 | GodEater | it shows :) Hope you feel better soon! |
08:37:01 | Llorean | Then again, trying to explain that A) My nano works, B) The link to the manual works, and C) the guidelines aren't ambiguous on the subject of 'feature requests' has perhaps also put me on edge. |
08:37:08 | * | GodEater sends Llorean virtual chicken soup |
08:37:23 | GodEater | it can't help |
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08:38:04 | GodEater | I appear to have arrived once more in time for Jeff to unplug the network cable from forums.rockbox.org |
08:38:06 | * | amiconn is somewhat lost in the ipl sources :( |
08:38:23 | Llorean | I spent a good 30 minutes trying to talk someone into clicking the "Online" link to the manual, because his PDF reader kept freezing and he wanted the manual emailed to him. |
08:38:24 | GodEater | amiconn: I know what you mean - they're a maze |
08:38:36 | amiconn | I can't seem to find the hardware shutdown |
08:38:44 | GodEater | Llorean: maybe it would have been quicker to email it to him? :) |
08:38:48 | Llorean | And I'm curious about these two people experiencing Nano problems. Both sound like disk corruption, and my Nano's working perfectly. |
08:39:15 | Llorean | GodEater: I always thought I was like, one message from being done, or I think I would've. |
08:39:17 | GodEater | yes they both read oddly |
08:39:43 | GodEater | yeah - I guess it's easy to say "you should have done X" *after* you've read thirty messages of a thread |
08:39:50 | Llorean | Well, one of them had strange results when they checked the partition layout in Rockbox. |
08:40:04 | GodEater | one of them is an old iPL user isn't he ? |
08:40:06 | Llorean | Yeah |
08:40:23 | Llorean | Said he'd restored since then, but I'm not too trustful of the iTunes restore anymore. |
08:40:39 | GodEater | I'm more distrustful of users who say they've done something |
08:41:30 | Llorean | I'm distrustful of ones who claim to have checked with "an" official build, because then I'm wondering "which" and "are you checking with one now, or simply saying you are" |
08:41:53 | GodEater | indeed |
08:41:55 | Llorean | Then again, the only time I've ever accused a user of lying, they admitted to it. |
08:42:04 | GodEater | hahaha |
08:42:17 | GodEater | was that before or after you'd tied them to a chair and shone a torch in their eyes ? |
08:42:27 | Llorean | Well it was quite clear he was, so I said "Look, I know you're lying to me. You said this, it contradicts this." His response was "LOL, you're right" or some such. |
08:43:15 | GodEater | that LOL response infuriates me beyond all reason |
08:43:36 | Llorean | Yeah, he knew he was lying, and he thought it was funny. |
08:43:44 | Llorean | I'm pretty sure this was before I had a hammer though |
08:43:54 | GodEater | hehehe |
08:44:21 | Llorean | I'm really curious what's going on with those Nanos, but the responses are always very minimalistic. |
08:44:51 | GodEater | that fluxam guy who was on here last night was annoying too |
08:44:57 | GodEater | about 3 minutes between each response |
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08:47:31 | amiconn | The bootloader works... at least it boots OF |
08:47:41 | amiconn | Buttons don't seem to work yet |
08:48:31 | amiconn | It's a hw ver. 0x20000, disk is Toshiba MK2003GAH |
08:48:40 | Llorean | Does RoLo work reliably on iPods yet? |
08:49:04 | * | amiconn doesn't know |
08:49:07 | GodEater | don't think it works at all does it ? |
08:49:10 | Llorean | It worked somewhat |
08:49:19 | amiconn | I rarely use it as usb reboots into diskmode anyway |
08:49:21 | GodEater | it's been a while since I tried it |
08:49:24 | Llorean | You could RoLo the same build of Rockbox, and the diskmode image. |
08:49:44 | amiconn | RoLoing diskmode or diagmode never worked for me |
08:49:48 | GodEater | ah |
08:50:14 | Llorean | I mean, when it's working, we should be able to RoLo an apple_os.ipod even, right? |
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08:51:13 | * | GodEater can't imagine why he'd want to ;) |
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08:52:20 | Llorean | I'd get rid of Apple_OS in the firmware partition for faster boot. |
08:52:35 | linuxstb | You can do that anyway - the bootloader can load it from a file without issues. |
08:52:37 | * | amiconn wonders what that has to do with rolo |
08:52:49 | aliask | amiconn: Are you familiar at all with the ARM bootloader? |
08:52:50 | Llorean | linuxstb: Y'know, I forgot about that entirely for some reason. |
08:53:11 | aliask | Or linuxstb. |
08:53:17 | linuxstb | aliask: There are 3 ARM bootloader - generic portalplayer (Sansa and H10), ipod and Gigabeat F/X. |
08:53:45 | aliask | Well, I noticed that interrupts are disabled in most (all?) |
08:53:57 | aliask | Why is this? |
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08:54:26 | aliask | I'm actually talking about crt0.S, sorry. |
08:55:03 | linuxstb | I can only talk about the ipod bootloader - it's simply because the bootloader was written before we wrote interrupt handling code for the ipods, and as it worked, there was no desire for anyone to go back and change it. |
08:55:03 | amiconn | We won't touch anything more than necessary, as that might confuse the OF |
08:57:11 | aliask | Aha. Fair enough. The tick timer relies on interrupts, doesn't it? So all the init stuff works fine without it? |
08:57:35 | linuxstb | On PortalPlayer we fake the current_tick variable with a hardware usec timer. |
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09:02:43 | linuxstb | aliask: I'm assuming your bootloader will be most similar to the Gigabeat F/X, so maybe talk to markun about it. |
09:06:20 | amiconn | do we? |
09:06:58 | linuxstb | It's a #define somewhere. |
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09:16:28 | amiconn | haha |
09:16:46 | amiconn | ipod G1 and G2 has inverse hold switch logic to all other ipods |
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09:17:58 | * | GodEater is starting to think that getting a plugin to exit into the file browser is not as trivial as he originally imagined |
09:19:10 | amiconn | A plugin always exits into a file browser, as that's where it is started from |
09:19:33 | GodEater | well I'm getting a blank screen from mine |
09:19:46 | GodEater | which is disturbing |
09:20:18 | * | amiconn would expect such things when messing with the context behind the app's back |
09:20:35 | GodEater | perhaps so |
09:20:58 | GodEater | it would seem I need to force a redraw |
09:21:07 | GodEater | but I'm not sure how to do that |
09:22:03 | amiconn | Well, you change the filebrowser context. Expect a load of variables to get out of sync and the file browser no longer working until reboot |
09:22:30 | amiconn | Just a redraw is surely not the problem, as the browser does always redraw after return |
09:22:48 | GodEater | the filebrowser doesnt' require a reboot |
09:22:49 | amiconn | How else would it display the files? (if nobody is messing with the context) |
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09:22:54 | GodEater | you can exit back to the top menu |
09:22:59 | GodEater | and then it works again as expected |
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09:23:50 | amiconn | Yes, as you leave the sub-browser |
09:23:51 | GodEater | the number of key presses to get back to the top menu is consistent with where I've left the filebrowser in the filesystem too |
09:24:00 | GodEater | it just doesn't redraw |
09:25:42 | * | GodEater thought that the fact set_current_file() was declared static was for a good reason |
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09:25:54 | linuxstb | amiconn: I assume you know about this page? http://ipodlinux.org/GPIO |
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09:26:15 | amiconn | GodEater: In fact it might even work, just you don't notice |
09:26:24 | amiconn | How do you run the plugin? |
09:26:29 | GodEater | from the plugins menu |
09:26:36 | amiconn | Do you browse to it in the main browser? |
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09:26:47 | GodEater | via the file browser you mean ? |
09:26:53 | amiconn | The plugins "menu" isn't a menu, it's a sub-browser |
09:27:05 | amiconn | And it is set to only display .rock files |
09:27:13 | GodEater | ahha! |
09:27:17 | GodEater | I see what you mean |
09:27:22 | amiconn | Not even dirs iirxc |
09:27:25 | GodEater | I just launched it from the real file browser |
09:27:29 | GodEater | and it works as expected |
09:27:34 | GodEater | thanks amiconn ;) |
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09:28:09 | GodEater | is it possible to change the plugin browsers filter ? |
09:29:37 | amiconn | linuxstb: Bootloader works now, at least what I can test without rockbox in place |
09:30:18 | amiconn | The hold thing was puzzling, because the button read also checked hold for the G3, which is unused and unnecessary |
09:30:34 | amiconn | There's a separate function for hold checking |
09:34:38 | linuxstb | I assume the new ipodpatcher is working fine? |
09:34:38 | amiconn | yup :) |
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09:34:38 | amiconn | The lcd driver has some quirks. Need to check with a G3 owner if it has the same effect |
09:34:38 | amiconn | LCD is inverted for some reason (white text on black) |
09:34:38 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK amiconn |
09:34:38 | amiconn | s/quirks/qirk/ |
09:34:38 | amiconn | bah |
09:34:39 | linuxstb | Everywhere? |
09:34:59 | amiconn | Yes, "everywhere" in the bootloader |
09:35:11 | amiconn | ipl has some special case for the lcd init, need to compare |
09:36:07 | amiconn | The OF corrects than during its own init |
09:36:49 | amiconn | It seems the display is inverted when the backlight is on |
09:37:10 | amiconn | YOu can see that when switching the backlight in the OF |
09:37:34 | amiconn | Switching off does a short fade, and during that fade, the lcd is inverted |
09:38:13 | amiconn | Fun, eh? |
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09:39:49 | Llorean | amiconn: Some people seem to think your frequency scaling changes have broken Rockbox on the Nano (I can't reproduce on my Nano, but two people are reporting it) |
09:39:53 | Llorean | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=11504.msg89080;topicseen#msg89080 |
09:48:19 | amiconn | Hmm, always those targets I cannot test |
09:48:49 | amiconn | I had no problems on video & mini G2, and the nano also has PP5021 (handled as PP5022) like the video |
09:49:10 | Llorean | The Nano works perfectly for me, too. |
09:49:29 | Llorean | At least one of those looks like disk corruption, but that other one's strange. |
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09:52:15 | amiconn | linuxstb: The GPIO page doesn't help me. I am looking for the hardware shutdown |
09:52:33 | amiconn | ipods >= G3 do this via the PCF |
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09:57:58 | linuxstb | amiconn: I was just pointing out that GPIO page for general interest. |
09:59:24 | linuxstb | poweroff could be in podzilla or podzilla2 - have you looked there? |
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10:00:36 | linuxstb | Argh, seems podzilla and podzilla2 both call /bin/poweroff to do the shutdown... |
10:00:41 | amiconn | The ipl pcf50605 installs a powermanagement handler - I need to find the equivalent for g1/g2 |
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10:03:06 | amiconn | pm_power_off - does that ring a bell? |
10:03:28 | Torin | hi there. |
10:04:36 | linuxstb | amiconn: Maybe IPL don't know how to power-off the 1G/2G - at least they didn't in 2003 - http://marc.info/?l=ipodlinux-devel&m=108399874527638&w=1 |
10:04:48 | Torin | i want to ask about themes in iaudio x5, becouse when i unpack anyone for example boeselhack_v1 |
10:05:09 | Torin | it doesn't look like on screenshoot, but some things are from default theme, and some from that on that screenshot |
10:06:17 | Torin | any suggestions what might be wrong ? |
10:06:35 | amiconn | eurgh |
10:07:31 | linuxstb | amiconn: Does the diagnostics mode have a poweroff option? On my Color, there are two options under Power->Sleep - SleepShort (which is an Apple-style sleep) and SleepForever which appears to be the full power-off |
10:08:46 | amiconn | There is a sleep option |
10:08:51 | linuxstb | Torin: Most likely cause is that the theme requires an unofficial (modified) version of Rockbox. The page you downloaded the theme from should indicate that. |
10:09:32 | amiconn | When executing that it will show the low bat symbol for a few seconds, then blank the display |
10:09:55 | amiconn | Pushing a button brings up the low bat icon for a few seconds again |
10:10:16 | Torin | linuxstb: themes are from the wiki |
10:11:45 | pixelma | Torin: that theme probably needs a patch to run (e.g. all the album art ones do) - or it has broken syntax that wasn't a problem until Rockbox got stricter with parsing them a while ago |
10:12:02 | Torin | hm |
10:12:04 | pixelma | s/patch/patched build |
10:12:23 | Torin | so i should search for the album art patch right now ? |
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10:12:37 | * | amiconn wonders what "5 in 1" does |
10:12:46 | amiconn | It blanks the display... |
10:13:16 | amiconn | Ah, you have to press a button to continue... |
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10:14:00 | pixelma | Torin: maybe you can find premade patched builds in the "unsupported builds" subforum that has it applied but be aware they are called unsupportd for a reason |
10:15:26 | pixelma | of course you could also try to find the patch, apply it and compile yourself |
10:16:06 | Torin | pixelma: yeah i see it |
10:16:25 | Torin | pixelma: compiling is no problem for me, i'm working as an sysadmin every day :) |
10:16:37 | Torin | pixelma: just didn't knew about that patch :) |
10:16:49 | Torin | pixelma: thanks for informing me, i'm just downloading svn |
10:19:25 | pixelma | heh :) but mentioning me once if no-one spoke to someone else in the meantime would have been enough ;) |
10:23:29 | amiconn | Seems like we have to figure out sleep mode, if only for the G1 and G2 |
10:24:57 | * | amiconn will make shutdown == reboot for now |
10:27:53 | linuxstb | amiconn: Do you think a single build for Rockbox itself is feasible? |
10:28:16 | amiconn | yes |
10:28:22 | amiconn | The differences are minimal |
10:28:29 | amiconn | Just some inits |
10:29:44 | linuxstb | That's good - will make the installation straightforward. |
10:30:34 | amiconn | We already know how to set the clock to 32kHz, but we need to get several other hardware settings right in order to no make it just crash |
10:31:30 | Lynx_ | Does anyone know if something like those psychoacoustic bass enhancement algorithms like the Archos and the H300 have are available for PC mp3 playback software? |
10:33:22 | amiconn | AH, rockbox now links :) |
10:33:36 | amiconn | ADC is not yet implemented, it's just a dummy |
10:34:24 | amiconn | linuxstb: Do you know where the diskmode reboot stuff is located in ipl? |
10:34:39 | * | amiconn wants to check whether it's the same for 1st/2nd gen |
10:36:59 | linuxstb | loader2 is probably the best source - it seems to be the most actively developed piece of IPL. |
10:37:21 | linuxstb | And is completely standalone (it doesn't use the linux kernel) |
10:37:35 | amiconn | hmm |
10:38:11 | * | amiconn wonders why the various ipl source codec pieces are scattered around the whole planet :/ |
10:38:25 | amiconn | ...and where the loader2 sources are |
10:38:31 | linuxstb | In SVN |
10:38:36 | linuxstb | (tools/ipodloader2) |
10:41:05 | linuxstb | Hmm, it seems loader2 calls the pcf functions for every target (IIUC)... |
10:41:18 | * | amiconn cannot seem to browse ipl svn |
10:41:30 | amiconn | Still down, I presume |
10:41:39 | linuxstb | I checked it out from a link DerPapst mentioned yesterday. |
10:42:34 | amiconn | ok |
10:42:43 | * | amiconn will check that soon |
10:43:17 | linuxstb | It was Wednesday - http://opensvn.csie.org/courtc/ |
10:43:33 | linuxstb | Just "svn co" and that URL worked for me IIRC. |
10:44:06 | * | linuxstb leaves, back later |
10:44:08 | * | amiconn currently tries to get rockbox to compile fully, so he can install his first build |
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10:44:30 | amiconn | Lots of places to fix the keymap |
10:49:45 | amiconn | eh? |
10:50:04 | amiconn | Seems like the video has some problems with latest rockbox.... |
10:50:18 | amiconn | It continues playing, but buttons don't react |
10:50:50 | GodEater | amiconn: another problem which has been reported a LOT in the forums recently |
10:51:02 | amiconn | Since when? |
10:51:37 | pixelma | I believe ever since 80GB support |
10:51:54 | GodEater | yep |
10:51:58 | pixelma | (could remember wrong though) |
10:52:02 | GodEater | although I've not been able to reproduce it myself |
10:52:09 | amiconn | hmm |
10:52:14 | GodEater | but there are two threads with people who've been complaining about it ever since then |
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10:55:58 | pixelma | GodEater: a "dodge usb cable" can't work, IIUC ;) |
10:57:59 | * | GodEater corrects his spelling |
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11:03:13 | * | bluebrother remembers the greyscale work he did on Rockboxed |
11:03:36 | bluebrother | but no response from JustJohnny in the forums thread :( |
11:04:45 | pixelma | amiconn: btw. I don't know if it helps any but the freezing problem on Ipod Video was also reported by 30GB owners |
11:05:11 | amiconn | Well, it doesn't freeze, otherwise music would stop |
11:06:15 | pixelma | the ui freezes |
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11:08:10 | pixelma | some reports here http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=11500.0 |
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11:10:44 | * | dionoea already had the UI freezes on ipod 30G too ... most of the time it unfreezeses 30 seconds later though (that's a rough estimate) |
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11:12:12 | digiboxer | any help on how to make 16bit bmp's look as goos as some of the downloadable themes |
11:12:21 | digiboxer | tgood* |
11:15:51 | digiboxer | no |
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11:45:10 | amiconn | Rockbox boots, but complains about empty battery and tries to shutdown (which is mapped to reboot) |
11:46:10 | Kasperle | is this the most current WPS documentation: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS ? |
11:48:24 | pixelma | Kasperle: yes, I think that's the must up-to-date one |
11:48:29 | pixelma | *most |
11:49:33 | Kasperle | are the %XX tags case-sensitive? |
11:49:46 | linuxstb | All tags are case-sensitive afaik. |
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11:49:50 | Kasperle | okay |
11:50:37 | Kasperle | any ideas what "%Cl" or "%C" might be (note the capitalized C). they're in a wps that, according to the ipod5g wps gallery, doesn't need any patches, but i cannot find %C in the WPS docs |
11:50:47 | Kasperle | also, the wps doesn't work |
11:51:03 | pixelma | I believe that has to do with album art |
11:53:02 | pixelma | which is unofficial and only documented in the patch tracker (I think) and the official wps rejects wps that uses them |
11:53:20 | pixelma | +parser (where it fits) ;) |
11:56:23 | pixelma | before the wps tokenizer work, rockbox ignored these tags - maybe that's why the description says that this wps doesn't need patches |
11:56:24 | Kasperle | hrm. turns out _that_ wps even requires AA. debugged the wrong one |
11:57:03 | pixelma | (the official version I mean) |
11:59:37 | Kasperle | ah. was it formerly ok to just have a "|" character in wps files? |
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12:00:18 | Kasperle | the ui simulator complained about lines like "%ac%fc (%?fb<%fbkbps| >) | %?fs<%fsKB|>" and " %ac%ig | %iy" |
12:00:23 | pixelma | it was not ok (should have been escaped with a '%' before too) but it worked |
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12:00:55 | pixelma | use '%|" if it's only used as letter |
12:00:56 | Kasperle | ah, so i assume the author wanted to output a pipe, and i'll just escape it |
12:01:29 | Kasperle | might even make sense in that theme. cheers :) |
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12:02:15 | pixelma | yes, otherwise it's a seperator in conditionals - and there it would be outside of a conditional... |
12:02:37 | GodEater | I don't get it. "rocks_browser" is only mentioned twice in the whole source tree - both times in root_menu.c - but I can't see where it's defined!! |
12:06:12 | * | amiconn wonders what's up with bygg.haxx.se |
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12:07:17 | DerPapst | Good morning :) |
12:07:25 | bluebrother | morning! |
12:07:43 | * | amiconn looks at the time and ntices it's already afternoon |
12:08:11 | bluebrother | s/morning/moin/ |
12:08:16 | bluebrother | better now? ;-) |
12:08:26 | DerPapst | no worries... i'm already up a few hours... |
12:08:32 | DerPapst | (2 at least :P) |
12:08:47 | bluebrother | more than 2 here :) |
12:09:14 | * | DerPapst likes to sleep a little longer |
12:09:56 | dionoea | GodEater: it's defined by the MENU_RETURN_VALUE macro call |
12:10:25 | DerPapst | amiconn: you wanted someone with a G3 ~09:30? |
12:11:04 | amiconn | Just to verify something: does the LCD look inverted when backlight is on vs. when backlight is off? |
12:11:12 | amiconn | In rockbox of course |
12:11:14 | DerPapst | no |
12:11:17 | amiconn | ok |
12:11:29 | amiconn | Then this is 1st/2nd gen special effect only |
12:11:44 | DerPapst | heh |
12:12:01 | DerPapst | the first screenies of iPL had these effect too :D |
12:12:27 | amiconn | Yes. I saw that ipl has special code for handling this |
12:12:41 | amiconn | I just don't care right now, as this is cosmetic |
12:13:08 | GodEater | dionoea: thanks - I'll see if I can follow that |
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12:14:41 | GodEater | good god - that looks like a complete nightmare. My C syntax skills aren't up to having half a clue what's going on there :( |
12:15:01 | DerPapst | heh |
12:15:13 | DerPapst | which file? |
12:15:20 | * | DerPapst wants to be scared too |
12:15:24 | dionoea | GodEater: it's defining two vars as far as i can tell |
12:15:58 | GodEater | all I want to know if how to change the dirfilters setting of the plugin browser tree context |
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12:16:47 | * | GodEater curses JdGordon |
12:17:13 | Nico_P | what did he do to deserve this ? |
12:17:38 | GodEater | his menu macros |
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12:17:43 | GodEater | I don't understand them at all |
12:17:48 | amiconn | Mister macroman |
12:18:07 | Nico_P | GodEater: you've looked at the definitions, have you ? |
12:18:23 | GodEater | yes - and they might as well be written in greek |
12:19:54 | Nico_P | what about the existing code ? |
12:20:45 | GodEater | that's what I was trying to decipher |
12:21:23 | GodEater | I was trying to find out which bit of code is launched when you select the plugin browser |
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12:23:08 | DerPapst | would it be a good idea to somehow categorize pluging in directories (with a plugin browser that is able to display dirs)? |
12:23:59 | pixelma | bluebrother already made a patch that does this, IIRC... |
12:24:22 | DerPapst | oh... |
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12:26:00 | * | DerPapst found it |
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12:27:12 | amiconn | DerPapst: If you have a suggestion how to localise the sub-dir names.... |
12:27:35 | * | GodEater finally finds what he wants |
12:28:18 | GodEater | not that it helps |
12:30:29 | DerPapst | amiconn: i actually don't even know what is meant by that (might be a lack of english skills or a lack of rockbox knowledge.... probably both) |
12:33:35 | Nico_P | GodEater: do you still have a git mirror of the rockbox svn ? |
12:34:27 | GodEater | not a complete one |
12:35:22 | amiconn | Hmmm |
12:35:28 | Nico_P | it doesn't start at r1 ? |
12:35:45 | amiconn | I can now boot rockbox, browse the menu, run plugins etc |
12:36:11 | amiconn | But buttons are glitchy, and it rebbots out of nowhere after some time |
12:36:25 | GodEater | Nico_P: No |
12:36:31 | Nico_P | ok |
12:36:40 | GodEater | Nico_P: I broke my r1 one whilst trying to get it exported |
12:36:46 | GodEater | and couldn't be bothered to get it again |
12:36:53 | Nico_P | I'm doing one now |
12:37:13 | amiconn | The inverted lcd during backlight is due to how the backlight works |
12:37:30 | amiconn | If there is bright light in front of the lcd it doesn't invert even with backlight on |
12:37:33 | Nico_P | I'm going to be on a vacation without internet access but with time to work so I'm getting ready for some offline commits |
12:38:55 | DerPapst | amiconn: nice :) |
12:39:13 | Nico_P | maybe I could post the reop on a public hosting site |
12:39:22 | * | amiconn will put on some music now |
12:40:19 | GodEater | Nibbier: repo.or.cz ? |
12:41:05 | Nico_P | GodEater: I don't know any other ::) |
12:42:23 | GodEater | is the global_settings struct visible to plugins ? |
12:43:22 | Nico_P | GodEater: you might want push access ? |
12:43:40 | GodEater | Nico_P: maybe :) |
12:47:52 | Nico_P | GodEater: got a username at that site ? |
12:48:02 | GodEater | don't think so |
12:48:06 | GodEater | let me go create one |
12:49:08 | GodEater | done |
12:49:16 | GodEater | I'll let you guess the username ;) |
12:49:36 | Nico_P | done :) |
12:49:44 | Nico_P | http://repo.or.cz/w/Rockbox.git |
12:50:08 | Nico_P | The code won't be up for a while though... I'm approching r3000 |
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12:51:37 | GodEater | no problem |
12:52:09 | Nico_P | shouldn't rockbox's "Open Source Jukebox Firmware" be "Open Source Digital Jukebox Firmware" or something ? |
12:52:53 | DerPapst | Open Source DAP Firmware :P |
12:54:18 | markun | DerPapst: sounds good |
12:54:34 | markun | although many people don't know what DAP means |
12:54:38 | DerPapst | markun: thanks :) |
12:54:49 | DerPapst | true... |
12:55:17 | DerPapst | add <sub>Digital Audio Player</sub> then :P |
12:55:49 | Nico_P | why not "Open Source Digital Audio Player Firmware" ? |
12:56:25 | markun | yes, typical OSDAPF project |
12:57:14 | pixelma | no-one will know what it is because they'll probably loose interest after "Audio" ;) |
12:57:25 | pixelma | when reading that |
12:57:31 | Nico_P | hehe :) |
12:57:49 | DerPapst | amiconn: i wonder.. the G1/G2 buttonlayout is pretty similar to the G4 layout hardware wise. couldn't one use the #define CONFIG_KEYPAD IPOD_4G_PAD in config-ipod1g2g.h to keep the code simpler/smaller |
12:57:58 | markun | Open Audio Player Firmware? |
12:58:25 | amiconn | The 4g can detect wheel positions (most of them) |
12:58:26 | markun | although Open DAP Firmware sounds better I think |
12:58:42 | markun | Maybe with "The" in front of it |
12:58:47 | amiconn | And the 1g/2g pad allows to press opposite buttons at once, unlike the 4g pad |
12:59:12 | amiconn | That's probably why apple had to change the reset & diskmode combos |
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12:59:44 | DerPapst | ah ok |
12:59:51 | DerPapst | haven't thought on that |
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13:01:16 | amiconn | You can also press a button _and_ use the wheel at the same time |
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13:01:45 | DerPapst | that will introduce a lot of fun keycombos then ^^ |
13:01:48 | amiconn | (very tricky if you try that with one hand though) |
13:02:00 | DerPapst | heh |
13:03:00 | * | DerPapst imagines a plugin that uses Scroll_fwd and button_menu as combination :-/ |
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13:05:42 | amiconn | BUTTON_LEFT + scrolling is easy 2-handed |
13:06:48 | DerPapst | but the keycombo ansich (<−− german) is a litte strange ;) |
13:08:23 | * | amiconn now fakes a battery voltage of 4.00V to silence the low voltage shutdown :/ |
13:10:03 | pixelma | DerPapst: "ansich" - what word is that? :P |
13:10:35 | DerPapst | maybe "an sich" |
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13:19:25 | webguest26 | hello, i get an error : prefetch abort at C6459E26, how can i fix it? |
13:20:54 | DerPapst | which DAP, which build? |
13:21:20 | webguest26 | ipod video 30gb, i am now installing the last build to see if the error continues |
13:21:34 | Nick_Brackley | what were you doing at the time? |
13:21:43 | webguest26 | audio playback |
13:21:49 | webguest26 | any track |
13:22:05 | DerPapst | there have been made some stabillity fixes a few days ago |
13:22:14 | webguest26 | seems to work fine now |
13:22:23 | webguest26 | at least past the crashing point so far |
13:22:36 | webguest26 | note to self : next time first update, then ask :P |
13:23:41 | DerPapst | hehe |
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13:27:27 | amiconn | Interesting... |
13:27:41 | DerPapst | indeed |
13:27:47 | amiconn | The 2nd gen for windows didn't come with iTunes, but with MusicMatch jukebox |
13:28:19 | DerPapst | yep.. they haven't ported iTunes to windows |
13:28:27 | DerPapst | when the 2G came out |
13:28:36 | DerPapst | s/2G/G2 |
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13:54:44 | bluebrother | hmm, wasn't there a plan to have an official git mirror of svn? |
13:55:17 | GodEater | don't think it ever got further than "a plan" |
13:55:51 | bluebrother | does the or.cz repo sync with svn? I assume it does not? |
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14:03:18 | DerPapst | with a scipt running on rockbox.org... |
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14:03:58 | Nico_P | bluebrother: it doesn't |
14:04:10 | GodEater | it could be made to |
14:04:20 | GodEater | or rather, rockbox's svn could be made to push to it |
14:04:22 | Nico_P | I still hope one day bagder will get round to setting up a git mirror |
14:04:38 | bluebrother | DerPapst: well, if there is a script running at rockbox.org, why not host it at rockbox.org in the first place? |
14:05:01 | bluebrother | while I don't think we should move to git a mirror would be nice. |
14:05:06 | Nico_P | btw, I'll soon have reached the latest rev |
14:05:15 | GodEater | hurray |
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14:05:44 | Nico_P | thing is I didn't get all branches, only trunk/ |
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14:07:13 | GodEater | Nico_P: so you're missing the Gigabeat S branch ? |
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14:07:25 | Nico_P | sadly I am |
14:07:31 | GodEater | I don't think the others were important - they were just created as part of the cvs import |
14:07:34 | GodEater | from what I recall |
14:07:43 | GodEater | the Gigabeat S is the only important branch |
14:12:33 | Nico_P | finished |
14:12:41 | Nico_P | after repacking, the repo is 65 MB |
14:13:25 | GodEater | hehe |
14:23:19 | Nico_P | I'm being asked for a password.... |
14:24:40 | DerPapst | bagofshit |
14:25:43 | GodEater | even using their push url? |
14:25:54 | GodEater | git+ssh://repo.or.cz/srv/git/Rockbox.git |
14:25:58 | amiconn | Now to find out why playback doesn't work yet... |
14:26:00 | Nico_P | yes, but it might be related to my username |
14:26:11 | GodEater | ah |
14:26:16 | GodEater | bbl - lunch! |
14:27:57 | DerPapst | pff instead to power down after a certain time beeing ilde the 3G iPod decides to simply freeze (in the wps - the default one). |
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14:28:58 | amiconn | ? |
14:29:07 | amiconn | In wps it's never idle |
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14:29:21 | DerPapst | ah ok. |
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14:30:01 | DerPapst | but if i leave it alone in the wps without playing music it frezes after a short time |
14:30:51 | DerPapst | just froze again while loading music... ah well :) |
14:34:16 | * | amiconn wonders how DerPapst can leave it in the wps without playing music |
14:34:22 | amiconn | That's impossible in rockbox |
14:34:51 | DerPapst | well.. all i do is hitting pause |
14:35:02 | DerPapst | and it says in that screen frozen |
14:35:22 | amiconn | hmm |
14:35:41 | DerPapst | but the cool thing is when backlight is off and i press a button light goes on and stays on forever |
14:35:59 | DerPapst | clock doesn't update either |
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14:55:16 | Nico_P | http://repo.or.cz/w/Rockbox.git |
14:56:09 | bluebrother | Domonoky: for the logs, I'm out for the weekend. If I find time I might try looking in bootloader installation. |
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15:07:21 | brad | hiya gents i got a problem with rockbox |
15:09:08 | brad | my nano 4GB has been using rockbox for quite some time now perfectly, but for some reason, its 'stuck'; on a rockbox screen where theres a big tick symbol and it says 'Disk Mode' on the top and 'OK to Disconnnect' on the bottom |
15:09:49 | brad | i can't turn the ipod off. ive tried all the buttons and nothing seems to work. anyone got any ideas? |
15:10:03 | crashd_ | brad: that's an ipod disk mode screen |
15:10:13 | crashd_ | have you tried holding down menu+select |
15:10:27 | crashd_ | or holding down play |
15:10:40 | brad | oh yes. |
15:10:46 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
15:11:06 | brad | crashd, i did the menu+select thing and rock box is back up and running |
15:11:22 | brad | i love yu and want to have your babies |
15:11:26 | brad | (joke) |
15:11:29 | crashd_ | clearly |
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15:11:36 | crashd_ | :) |
15:11:59 | brad | no but seriously, thanks for that as it was like that a few days. |
15:12:07 | crashd_ | no problems dude |
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15:12:15 | amiconn | hmpf |
15:12:21 | brad | Cheers. so the menu+select is a 'reset/refresh' ? |
15:12:21 | crashd_ | if something breaks, menu+select usually fixes it, it's a hardware reboot so even if rockbox is fuxed it should work |
15:12:29 | DerPapst | ^ doesnt souund good |
15:12:45 | crashd_ | it's the hardware reboot interrupt |
15:12:51 | * | amiconn applied the single place where the 1st/2nd gen audio init is different form the 3rd gen |
15:12:54 | crashd_ | whereas holding down play is the software shutdown/restart |
15:13:08 | TickyTacky5 | hi im new to all this, i would like to know if i installed rockbox on my ipod, is there a way i can make it boot in apple by default? |
15:13:10 | DerPapst | amiconn: doesn't work? |
15:13:21 | amiconn | Now instead of hanging in the wps (and still possible to leave it) it hangs before showing the wps |
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15:13:55 | DerPapst | bummer |
15:14:00 | brad | crashd: again thanks for your help mate |
15:14:06 | crashd_ | as i say, no problems |
15:14:11 | DerPapst | no way to test audio without the wps screen? |
15:14:28 | amiconn | No audio at all |
15:14:52 | amiconn | Either something is wrong with this init, or I missed another place |
15:16:09 | TickyTacky5 | so can you boot with the apple firmware by default? |
15:16:20 | DerPapst | wps seems to be buggy on all pp5002 targets then ;) |
15:16:37 | DerPapst | TickyTacky5: not with the official bootloader |
15:16:55 | TickyTacky5 | how then? |
15:17:16 | DerPapst | you have to compile an own bootloader for that tast |
15:17:19 | DerPapst | *task |
15:17:49 | TickyTacky5 | well that might be a problem considering i have no idea what a bootloader is |
15:17:50 | amiconn | DerPapst: With the 3rd gen i2s init in place, the wps shows up fine, and as long as I don't fiddle with playback controls like play/pause or skip, I can even leave it |
15:18:25 | DerPapst | mhh. |
15:19:32 | TickyTacky5 | despapst, can you have apple firmware, rockbox, and ipodlinux all at the same time? |
15:20:05 | DerPapst | yes |
15:20:17 | TickyTacky5 | neat |
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15:25:05 | TickyTacky5 | where do i download plugins for rockbox, all i see is plugin index |
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15:25:32 | DerPapst | you have them already |
15:25:47 | DerPapst | they are preinstalled |
15:25:59 | TickyTacky5 | all of them? |
15:26:08 | DerPapst | yes. |
15:26:11 | DerPapst | 95% |
15:26:16 | TickyTacky5 | snaaaap..thats awesome |
15:26:41 | TickyTacky5 | i think im liking rockbox for that ipodlinux |
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15:28:44 | AceNik | hey guys i cant compile suddenly today , i get awarning " elf-gcc" should be in your path , this will allow us to make the necessary checks? |
15:28:51 | AceNik | i used to compile before fine |
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15:30:33 | DerPapst | are you sure the toolchain is in your PATH? |
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15:31:32 | AceNik | DerPapst: i compiled my last build 5 days a go, do you think i need to check something them i will , please tell me, im compiling from a different folder |
15:32:19 | DerPapst | for what target are you compiling? |
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15:35:43 | AceNik | DerPapst: h10[20GB] |
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15:37:40 | AceNik | DerPapst: do i compile a build n c if i get a error |
15:38:19 | DerPapst | do: export PATH=/usr/local/arm-elf/bin:$PATH |
15:38:27 | DerPapst | before you compile |
15:42:02 | Nico_P | GodEater: I've pushed the whole svn history to http://repo.or.cz/w/Rockbox.git and I've found the way to allow anyone to clone that and turn it into a git-svn repo :) |
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15:54:13 | Nico_P | GodEater: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GitVersionControl#The_public_Rockbox_git_repositor |
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15:55:01 | AceNik__ | hey gusy i cant compile today im attaching a error link |
15:57:06 | AceNik__ | http://paste.lisp.org/display/45207 |
15:57:09 | AceNik__ | please help |
15:57:50 | Nico_P | AceNik__: the important line is "WARNING: The compiler you must use (arm-elf-gcc) is not in your path!" |
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15:58:16 | Nico_P | AceNik___: did you run rockboxdev.sh ? |
15:58:36 | AceNik___ | Nico_P: i compiled 5 days a go it all worked fine , i havent changed anythin |
15:59:03 | Nico_P | apparently your PATH has changed |
15:59:11 | AceNik___ | how? |
15:59:16 | GodEater | you didn't save it ? |
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15:59:30 | Nico_P | no idea but the configure script can't find the amr-elf-gcc executable |
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15:59:53 | GodEater | what does "echo $PATH" say AceNik ? |
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16:00:31 | GodEater | Nico_P: cloning now ;) |
16:00:51 | Nico_P | GodEater: have you seen my edit on the wiki page ? |
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16:01:18 | GodEater | not yet |
16:01:24 | * | GodEater goes to look |
16:01:36 | {AceNik}_ | GodEater: it gives some path |
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16:02:28 | Nico_P | {AceNik}_: do you know where arm-elf-gcc is on your system ? ("which arm-elf-gcc" could tell you but it probably won't work in this case) |
16:02:59 | GodEater | {AceNik}_: if you want help, you kind of need to be explicit. I already KNOW it gives "some kind of path" I need to know what it specifically says for you. |
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16:05:22 | GodEater | Nico_P: nice tips on the wiki page |
16:05:44 | Nico_P | :) |
16:05:58 | GodEater | Nico_P: does it rely on us doing regular pushes to it to keep it up to date ? |
16:06:08 | Nico_P | yes |
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16:06:33 | Nico_P | that's why I still hope for Bagder to set us up with an official mirror |
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16:06:47 | Nico_P | ...that would be updated by a script on each SVN commit |
16:07:12 | {AceNik}_ | Godeater: http://paste.lisp.org/display/45208 |
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16:07:34 | GodEater | would be nice |
16:08:33 | GodEater | is /opt/arm/bin where you arm-elf-gcc is ? |
16:10:02 | AceNik | GodEater: that folder contains a file named arm-elf-gcc |
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16:10:55 | GodEater | so what does typing "which arm-elf-gcc" tell you ?? |
16:10:58 | AceNik | & D:\cygwin\opt\arm has both a folder named "arm-elf" & "bin" |
16:13:13 | AceNik | it says /opt/arm/bin/arm-elf-gcc |
16:15:05 | GodEater | AceNik: in that case try deleting your build directory wherever it is, create it again, and re-run configure |
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16:15:52 | DerPapst | afaik the toolchain doesn't install to opt |
16:16:17 | DerPapst | maybe run export PATH=/usr/local/arm-elf/bin:$PATH and look if it works again? :P |
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16:16:39 | AceNik | ok guys gimme 2 minutes ill check |
16:16:43 | AceNik | thanks |
16:17:36 | GodEater | DerPapst: that's true on most POSIX operating systems where you've used rockboxdev.sh - but not if you've used the cygwin installer |
16:18:45 | GodEater | Nico_P: successfully cloned :) |
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16:19:10 | linuxstb | Did anyone ever write a "using git with Rockbox" wiki page? |
16:19:35 | AceNik | guys both the things dont work, listen it worked fine 5 days ago |
16:19:44 | DerPapst | one can use the cygwin installer to install the rb toolchain? |
16:19:46 | AceNik | i jus did svn up all the rest of the days |
16:20:08 | DerPapst | i used rockboxdev.sh on cygwin |
16:20:09 | linuxstb | DerPapst: rockbox.org hosts cygwin packages for the compilers (or at least it used to) |
16:20:25 | linuxstb | One of the many "how to compile" wiki pages gives the info. |
16:20:36 | DerPapst | wow.. didn't know that :D |
16:20:48 | GodEater | linuxstb: I'm using my own git-svn repo |
16:20:53 | * | DerPapst still preferes rockboxdev.sh ;) |
16:21:07 | linuxstb | DerPapst: I bet it took a while to run though... |
16:21:16 | * | GodEater shudders to think |
16:21:19 | Domonoky | or use the prepared Vm image :-) |
16:21:26 | GodEater | quicker still ;) |
16:21:35 | AceNik | guys what can i do ? |
16:21:37 | DerPapst | about 2 or more hours just for arm ;) |
16:21:57 | linuxstb | AceNik: If arm-elf-gcc is in /opt/arm/bin/ then add /opt/arm/bin to your path. |
16:22:07 | GodEater | linuxstb: it's already in his path |
16:22:18 | linuxstb | So what's the problem? |
16:22:23 | GodEater | configure doesn't think it is |
16:22:30 | GodEater | which arm-elf-gcc finds it |
16:22:36 | AceNik | i have a folder called If arm-elf in that path |
16:22:40 | GodEater | but not the rockbox configure script |
16:22:49 | linuxstb | AceNik: Do you have more than one cygwin window open? |
16:23:12 | AceNik | nope |
16:23:22 | linuxstb | What happens if you type "arm-elf-gcc -v" ? |
16:23:27 | GodEater | linuxstb: also - Nico_P wrote his quick guide to using git with the rockbox svn tree on the GitVersionControl page |
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16:24:05 | AceNik | nothin happens |
16:24:21 | linuxstb | Nothing at all? |
16:24:30 | AceNik | nothin at all |
16:24:33 | GodEater | AceNik: how about "/opt/arm/bin/arm-elf-gcc -v" |
16:24:41 | AceNik | which arm-elf-gcc shows the right path |
16:24:58 | AceNik | nothin |
16:25:13 | GodEater | sounds like a broken arm-elf-gcc then |
16:25:20 | GodEater | or a broken cygwin |
16:26:00 | DerPapst | you can have multiple cygwin windows open |
16:26:22 | AceNik | guys how does one revert to a custom date |
16:26:24 | DerPapst | without problem |
16:26:40 | linuxstb | DerPapst: I was ruling out that AceNik had different PATHs in different shells |
16:26:49 | * | DerPapst compiles the sim and the targetbuild side by side :) |
16:26:59 | DerPapst | ah. ok |
16:27:02 | DerPapst | then nvm |
16:27:06 | GodEater | AceNik: it's nothing to do with date your source code is from |
16:27:10 | * | DerPapst shuts up |
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16:27:13 | AceNik | linuxstb: i have been compiling since long how come this has started suddenly |
16:27:32 | * | GodEater is tempted by the windows favourite "reboot" |
16:27:33 | GodEater | :) |
16:27:34 | linuxstb | AceNik: I've no idea - I don't use cygwin |
16:27:45 | GodEater | cygwin is bloody horrible |
16:28:02 | DerPapst | it shouldn't even happen in cygwin |
16:28:09 | AceNik | hehe, then uys what o i use? |
16:28:16 | GodEater | linux |
16:28:24 | AceNik | should i try reinstalling the cygwin installer stuff |
16:28:36 | GodEater | AceNik: I'd be more tempted to advise you to use the vmware image |
16:28:40 | * | DerPapst wonders if XavierGr or amiconn vm images are up somewhere |
16:28:43 | GodEater | it's faster than the cygwin one by a lot |
16:28:49 | AceNik | well unfortunately im cluless with linux never used, & to top it all , im using XP |
16:29:01 | GodEater | AceNik: that's why use the vmware image |
16:29:43 | GodEater | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform |
16:29:45 | AceNik | can i use the same setup files as cygwin packaes for vmware |
16:29:58 | GodEater | AceNik: you don't need to - it comes with everything you need already set up |
16:30:07 | GodEater | you only need to download the vmware player |
16:30:12 | GodEater | and "run" our image |
16:30:36 | AceNik | ok ill check 2 mins |
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16:30:50 | * | GodEater will be impressed if anyone can download it all in 2 minutes |
16:31:19 | AceNik | no i know ill be terrible at downloading it , im just checking the info |
16:31:21 | DerPapst | 6000Gbit :P |
16:31:37 | GodEater | linuxstb: would you mind taking my plugin for a spin in it's current state (it will require you create a favourites.link in the /.rockbox/rocks/ directory with a few paths in it) ? |
16:32:29 | * | GodEater is still writing the bits to create the file in the plugin |
16:33:08 | AceNik | DerPapst: cant i use the same cygwin packages, they 7z too ? |
16:33:15 | linuxstb | GodEater: I'm working now, but can try this evening. |
16:33:17 | AceNik | downloading 217MB will be a pain |
16:33:22 | GodEater | linuxstb: oh ok - no problem |
16:33:51 | GodEater | AceNik: using the cygwin packages means using cygwin |
16:33:57 | GodEater | they don't work for anything else |
16:34:47 | AceNik | should i try reinstalling cygwin n packages itself |
16:34:52 | Nico_P | GodEater: did you do the git-svn conversion bit ? |
16:34:57 | GodEater | Nico_P: yep |
16:35:01 | GodEater | seemed to work ok |
16:35:28 | Nico_P | normally it displays all the revs from last to first with the associated SHA-1 commit IDs |
16:35:37 | GodEater | ye |
16:35:39 | GodEater | s |
16:35:40 | GodEater | :) |
16:35:43 | GodEater | I got all those |
16:36:13 | Nico_P | so maybe I should let you push he next svn commit to the repo :) |
16:36:15 | GodEater | I appear to have two branches already |
16:36:22 | GodEater | one called "master" and one called "origin" |
16:36:36 | GodEater | where did origin come from ? |
16:37:35 | GodEater | Nico_P: is that simply a case of a rebase (once there's a change to get from svn) followed by a push ? |
16:37:43 | Nico_P | no idea... does it show in "git branch" output ? |
16:37:50 | GodEater | yes it does |
16:37:51 | Nico_P | yes |
16:37:56 | Nico_P | strange |
16:38:02 | GodEater | master is the one which is selected though |
16:38:37 | GodEater | and there's no difference between the two |
16:38:44 | GodEater | git diff master..HEAD shows no output |
16:38:56 | Nico_P | you can probably just remove the origin branch then |
16:39:03 | GodEater | fingers crossed |
16:39:08 | AceNik | guys reinstalling cygwin itself worked |
16:39:08 | GodEater | I take it you don't have it then |
16:39:15 | AceNik | ill switch to VMware later |
16:39:17 | Nico_P | no I don't |
16:39:26 | Nico_P | I'll try cloning the public repo though |
16:39:27 | GodEater | branch deleted! |
16:39:33 | GodEater | hmm |
16:39:38 | GodEater | wonder if it's because I used cogito |
16:39:54 | * | GodEater did "cg clone" instead of "git clone" |
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16:42:13 | GodEater | no more coding for me this afternoon - feeling too sleepy. Don't want "Friday afternoon code" syndrome |
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16:51:49 | AceNik | guys do we have backlight constantly on in the plugins, or it goes off, after a while? |
16:51:57 | AceNik | like for example mpegplayer? |
16:52:22 | Domonoky | AceNik: you can control this in the plugins code.. |
16:52:48 | linuxstb | Yes, the plugin author decides if the backlight should be on permanently. But most plugins just use the normal Rockbox settings. |
16:53:01 | AceNik | no cause i'll patch my build for it otherwise, just thought if the patch had been included |
16:53:09 | linuxstb | So mpegplayer for example turns the backlight on permanently (or should do...) |
16:53:41 | Nico_P | GodEater: I just tried the procedure I added to the wiki and I didn't get the "origin" brancg |
16:53:57 | GodEater | Nico_P: must be a cogito thing then |
16:54:06 | Nico_P | probably |
16:54:12 | GodEater | won't use it again then |
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16:57:48 | GodEater | if you do "void blah(unsigned waffle)" in C - what type is waffle assumed to be? An int ? |
16:58:19 | dionoea | unsigned int |
16:58:39 | GodEater | thanks |
16:58:50 | GodEater | didn't know you could shorthand it like that till now |
16:59:10 | Domonoky | GodEater: you can, but its not good .-) |
16:59:18 | dionoea | +1 |
16:59:25 | * | GodEater looks at linuxstb |
16:59:29 | GodEater | his code... |
17:00 |
17:00:10 | * | Domonoky remindes linuxstb, to write human readable C :-) |
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17:03:49 | * | GodEater corrects the bit of code he nicked from linuxstb |
17:06:29 | * | linuxstb wonders what Domonoky and GodEater are talking about |
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17:09:41 | lontra | anyone know why after updating rockbox kde no longer prompts me to mount it ... or is this a kde issue |
17:10:45 | Nico_P | lontra: KDE issue |
17:10:48 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
17:11:26 | lontra | Nico_P: ok |
17:12:08 | TiMiD[FD] | works here |
17:12:18 | lontra | TiMiD[FD]: what distro? |
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17:12:24 | TiMiD[FD] | gentoo |
17:12:35 | Nico_P | it works for me too on kubuntu |
17:12:37 | lontra | worked here on debian sid until i updated the software |
17:12:55 | lontra | it's probably a debian issue ... |
17:13:00 | TiMiD[FD] | I updated 2 minutes ago with my own build |
17:13:15 | TiMiD[FD] | maybe you fried your player ? :p |
17:13:20 | lontra | TiMiD[FD]: :) |
17:13:31 | lontra | nah it works fine ... pmount /dev/sdb2 works |
17:14:01 | GodEater | linuxstb: your "void * mpeg2_malloc (unsigned size, mpeg2_alloc_t reason)" code |
17:14:14 | TiMiD[FD] | so it's probably your computer ! |
17:14:25 | linuxstb | GodEater: That's not mine - it's from libmpeg2 |
17:14:39 | linuxstb | But I probably changed the implementation of it. |
17:14:47 | GodEater | I would imagine you did |
17:14:49 | GodEater | :) |
17:15:07 | linuxstb | I never use "unsigned"... |
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17:15:53 | dionoea | anyone know why the ipod piezo patch isn't getting applied to trunk? (If no one objects I'd like to apply it) |
17:16:24 | AceNik | guys is VMware version 2.0 ok ? |
17:16:35 | AceNik | its 145MB |
17:16:58 | dionoea | vmware player 2.0.0 for windows is ok. |
17:17:05 | lontra | so to update my software with rockbox all i need to do is d/l the latest snapshot and run unzip rockbox.zip? |
17:17:15 | AceNik | i changed the direct download link in the wiki page for VMware to 2.0 |
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17:18:46 | w1ll14m | does some know how to reroute the lineout |
17:19:06 | DerPapst | lontra: exactly |
17:19:11 | w1ll14m | because i want to have my lineout exactly the same as my phones out |
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17:25:22 | linuxstb | dionoea: I haven't looked at it, but it is 1) Clean; 2) bug-free ? |
17:26:41 | dionoea | The code looks clean. And it's bug-free as far as I can tell |
17:26:57 | dionoea | I'm not rockbox core expert so I might be overlooking stuff though |
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17:28:06 | amiconn | GodEater, Domonoky: Imo short-handing 'unsigned int' to 'unsigned' makes the code more readable, as it is shorter |
17:28:16 | * | amiconn always does this |
17:28:29 | amiconn | It's perfectly legal |
17:28:54 | GodEater | I don't like it, it's less clear to me |
17:29:27 | amiconn | The general rule is that everything is of type int unless stated otherwise |
17:30:00 | TiMiD[FD] | you should try code obfuscation contests ^^ |
17:30:19 | amiconn | huh? |
17:30:20 | TiMiD[FD] | it's recommended to write it explicitely though |
17:31:18 | Nico_P | amiconn: so you can write "void foo(bar)" instead of "void foo(int bar)" ? |
17:31:38 | amiconn | In theory this should work |
17:31:41 | GodEater | or indeed "foo(bar)" instead of "int foo(int bar)" |
17:31:52 | TiMiD[FD] | you could ommit the return type of all function returning an int then |
17:31:54 | dionoea | gcc prints a warning if you use foo(bar) AFAIK |
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17:32:10 | amiconn | At least that is what gcc does when a forward declaration is missing - it assumes all arguments and the return value to be of type int |
17:32:12 | TiMiD[FD] | it would make the code easier to read |
17:32:58 | amiconn | You will get a warning as there is no type specifier at all then. But 'unsigned' is a type specifier in itself |
17:33:36 | TiMiD[FD] | indeed but it's not explicit |
17:33:55 | amiconn | It is.... |
17:33:59 | TiMiD[FD] | it's some C rules that not everyone knows about |
17:35:14 | TiMiD[FD] | I personally try to avoid that kind of tricks |
17:36:05 | amiconn | Imo this isn't a trick, it's legal C, gives no warning, shortens the code while improving readability |
17:36:52 | GodEater | didn't improve it for me |
17:36:55 | GodEater | which is why I had to ask |
17:37:02 | DerPapst | ^ this is why project have coding guildlines.. :P |
17:37:05 | amiconn | (unlike other methods to shorten the code, like leaving out white space, or using too few linefeeds) |
17:38:41 | * | amiconn has used plain 'unsigned' in a lot of places |
17:39:02 | linuxstb | GodEater: But now you know all about it ;) |
17:39:18 | TiMiD[FD] | unsigned is not really a type, it's a type modifier, like signed |
17:39:27 | GodEater | yes, but makes me wonder what other shorthand I'm missing |
17:39:52 | amiconn | DerPapst: around? |
17:40:26 | * | amiconn decided to do something easier than digging for the i2s problem first |
17:45:11 | w1ll14m | someone here with some knownledge about wm drivers? |
17:45:48 | linuxstb | w1ll14m: You should ask a specific question. |
17:46:25 | w1ll14m | well ok |
17:46:43 | DerPapst | amiconn: yes |
17:47:01 | amiconn | DerPapst: Could you test something for me? |
17:47:07 | DerPapst | sure |
17:47:11 | amiconn | It seems the grayscale lib isn't properly tuned |
17:47:18 | w1ll14m | is the wm8758 driver i see LOUT1VOL and LOUT2VOL points to a different register |
17:47:37 | w1ll14m | i would like to get my lineout give the same output as phonesout |
17:47:38 | amiconn | Make a build with test_scanrate.rock |
17:47:45 | DerPapst | ok |
17:48:10 | amiconn | ...then run it and try to make the black-and-white stripe stand still |
17:48:27 | amiconn | It must be pure black & white then, not some blurry intermediate |
17:48:37 | w1ll14m | i was wondering if lout1vol is phones and lout2vol is lineout |
17:48:38 | amiconn | Then tell me what scanrate is displayed |
17:49:05 | amiconn | We used 80Hz for the fullsize grescale LCDs, but I need 95Hz on the 2nd gen to make it work right |
17:50:05 | DerPapst | building... |
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17:53:53 | amiconn | The LCD is strange. It almost seems the internal blacklevel varies with display content |
17:54:14 | amiconn | Maybe It's run with a too low voltage divider current |
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17:54:29 | amiconn | Since it's HD66753 this should be fixable |
17:55:35 | amiconn | And the gamma curve in the grayscale lib isn't correct, but that's just a matter of calibration |
17:57:18 | amiconn | DerPapst: Does the scroll wheel on 3rd gen also work rather bad? |
17:57:35 | DerPapst | amiconn: that is a known problem of G1-G3 iPods. Even the apple fw suffers from it |
17:57:36 | amiconn | As in, if you're trying to scroll faster, it goes slower or stops instead? |
17:58:07 | DerPapst | talking about the lcd |
17:58:54 | DerPapst | e.g. if you launch the maze plugin the backlevel drops a lot. |
17:59:23 | amiconn | I think it's a matter of setup. Maybe we can change that |
18:00 |
18:00:42 | DerPapst | dunno about scrolling. will test when the build is finished |
18:01:14 | amiconn | Iiuc we don't use button interrupts on the 1st-3rd gen yet. That would explain the jerky wheel |
18:01:52 | amiconn | If it changes more than one phase per tick, the driver cannot interpret it correctly anymore |
18:02:17 | amiconn | The driver almost looks like the mini 1st gen wheel driver, so I think we can borrow code from there |
18:02:55 | * | amiconn discovered a sleep mode setting in the OF and tests that now |
18:03:05 | amiconn | Shortest setting is 15 minutes, unfortunately |
18:03:29 | amiconn | If that's suspend-to-disk, it means the 2nd gen can be powered off |
18:03:34 | DerPapst | looking at disassembly again? ;) |
18:03:55 | DerPapst | ^ ign. |
18:04:06 | * | DerPapst is confused once again |
18:04:08 | amiconn | Not yet, but I will for sure |
18:04:35 | DerPapst | still building plugins... |
18:04:55 | DerPapst | ah :) building zip now :) |
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18:12:21 | linuxstb | w1ll14m: Yes, LOUT1/ROUT1 are headphone out (left and right), and LOUT2/ROUT2 are line-out. |
18:13:39 | linuxstb | w1ll14m: But you shouldn't need to touch the drivers - just change the call to audiohw_set_lineout_vol() in firmware/sound.c to use the user's value, rather than 0dB. |
18:15:20 | DerPapst | amiconn: 87.0Hz still moving very very slowly. adding +/- 0.1Hz makes it scrolling faster |
18:15:34 | amiconn | Is it clear b&w? |
18:15:40 | DerPapst | yes. |
18:15:50 | amiconn | Okay, so it's 87Hz for the 3rd gen |
18:16:03 | amiconn | Odd, they're all a bit different |
18:16:16 | DerPapst | and scrolling is indeed jerky on 3G. |
18:16:31 | DerPapst | it took me a while to get to this plugin :P |
18:17:32 | DerPapst | this is od... still 87Hz.. first it moved very slowly downwards and now it moves very slowly upwards... |
18:17:42 | amiconn | That's not odd |
18:18:03 | DerPapst | the warmer it gets the faster it scrolls |
18:18:07 | DerPapst | not? |
18:18:11 | amiconn | The lcd controllers use an RC oscillator, and those don't produce very stable frequencies |
18:18:44 | amiconn | On the archos it's extreme, 20°C temperature difference mean a 4Hz frequency difference |
18:18:57 | DerPapst | wow |
18:19:17 | DerPapst | so it is between 86,9 and 87,1 |
18:19:22 | DerPapst | *Hz |
18:19:45 | amiconn | I don't care about the .x, for the reason I mentioned |
18:19:53 | amiconn | I will set 87Hz for the 3rd gen then |
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18:20:59 | DerPapst | i think 87Hz is the closest anyways |
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18:24:38 | amiconn | DerPapst: Does ipl suffer from the same scrollwheel sluggishness on the 3rd gen? |
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18:28:16 | DerPapst | amiconn: can't remember. Have to install loader 2 fist for testing (running an rockbox bootloader atm) |
18:28:16 | BobShield | anyone know if any development for the Sansa e200R series has gone anywhere? |
18:28:33 | amiconn | Well, the rockbox bootloader can boot ipl... |
18:28:52 | DerPapst | where has the linuxkernel to be placed inorder to launch it with rockbox? |
18:29:06 | amiconn | Just put the kernel as 'linux.bin' onto the fat32 partition |
18:29:17 | amiconn | Then hold Play at boot |
18:29:18 | DerPapst | k. |
18:30:30 | DerPapst | bleh.. my linux.bin is on the ext partition... |
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18:32:53 | * | DerPapst writes a ext2/3 driver for rockbox... |
18:33:07 | DerPapst | er... /me puts linux.bin on fat32 partition |
18:36:21 | DerPapst | scroling in podzilla2 isn't nice either. but at least it doesn't stop at all. |
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18:36:42 | DerPapst | and feels a little faster than rockbox |
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18:37:41 | amiconn | ok |
18:38:11 | amiconn | Does ipl run the PP5002 at >66MHz now? Or is that fix still not ported back? |
18:38:47 | DerPapst | i doubt it will be ported until cristmas 2010 |
18:39:09 | DerPapst | wired politics by the iPL devs |
18:39:32 | DerPapst | no one but leachbj is touching the kernel at all |
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18:39:56 | DerPapst | they have commitacces but they refuse to |
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18:40:18 | amiconn | odd |
18:40:55 | shiftplusone | Hey, can someone help me restore my ipod (Using dd commands if I don't have anything backed up... are there any disk images online?) |
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18:42:41 | DerPapst | there is a page in the wiki somewhere... |
18:43:20 | shiftplusone | I looked through the wiki... could only find steps if you had the disk backed up. |
18:45:13 | scorche | the MBRs are in the wiki |
18:45:18 | scorche | then just forat your drive |
18:45:20 | scorche | format |
18:45:46 | shiftplusone | ok... i'll scan through the wikis again. |
18:46:08 | scorche | it is on the conversion to fat32 page...i forgot the exact name of it |
18:46:56 | DerPapst | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodConversionToFAT32 |
18:46:59 | DerPapst | tadaaaa |
18:47:17 | scorche | yes....i was too lazy to fetch it =) |
18:47:34 | shiftplusone | ah perfect |
18:47:35 | shiftplusone | thanks |
18:47:59 | shiftplusone | rockbox only works on fat32 right? |
18:48:08 | scorche | yes |
18:48:38 | shiftplusone | ok thanks. |
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18:51:53 | shiftplusone | newfs_msdos... hmm.. don't have that command... what does it come with or what are the alternatives? |
18:52:15 | DerPapst | mkdosfs |
18:52:27 | DerPapst | mkfs.vfat |
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18:54:42 | shiftplusone | those steps don't restore the firmware though do they? |
18:54:49 | * | DerPapst thinks s.o. should add them to the wiki |
18:54:55 | DerPapst | nope |
18:55:11 | DerPapst | if you want to restore i can give you another link |
18:55:22 | shiftplusone | are there any firmware images online? |
18:55:27 | DerPapst | yes |
18:55:34 | DerPapst | directly from apple |
18:56:15 | shiftplusone | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodManualRestore |
18:56:16 | shiftplusone | sorry |
18:56:19 | shiftplusone | that was pretty obvious |
18:56:23 | DerPapst | http://www.ipodlinux.org/Restore_without_iTunes#Restore_the_Firmware |
18:56:26 | DerPapst | ah. |
18:56:38 | DerPapst | didn't know something like that is on the rb wiki too ;) |
18:57:10 | Ave | how would I go about to stop rb (ipod nano build) from entering the disk mode when I insert the usb cable? |
18:57:20 | shiftplusone | hold menu? |
18:57:27 | Ave | doesnt work, it used to |
18:57:45 | Ave | or maybe something changed with linux internals but it soon retries and there it goes into disk mode |
18:57:53 | Ave | I see usb timeouts in the logs |
18:57:58 | shiftplusone | ah... I thought it stopped working 'cause I switched to linux and it handles usb devices differently or something.... |
18:58:15 | shiftplusone | then... I don't know. |
18:58:22 | Ave | see, I'd want to continue listening while the device is charging |
18:58:43 | shiftplusone | how about... just open the files and listen from the computer? |
18:58:45 | Ave | yeah the queston is, what do I need to change in the source |
18:59:00 | Ave | nah.. computer has crappy audio in comparison |
18:59:08 | Ave | and clumsier ui and ... |
18:59:10 | shiftplusone | ok someone who knows should be able to answer that. |
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18:59:45 | scorche | i dont have my cable around, but it should work... |
18:59:56 | scorche | are you using an unsupported build? |
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19:00:11 | DerPapst | maybe hold menu longer |
19:00:17 | DerPapst | e.g. 20secs + |
19:01:29 | scorche | yes...you should be holding it before inserting and holding it for a time after....although 20 secs is a bit much |
19:02:22 | Ave | doesnt matter |
19:02:30 | Ave | the kernel keeps trying and somehow resets the bus or whatnot |
19:02:54 | Ave | I'm not going to sit on th emenu button ad nauseam |
19:02:55 | scorche | it has worked on linux for me.. |
19:03:07 | DerPapst | have heared that too |
19:03:25 | DerPapst | maybe cut the data cables :P |
19:03:32 | Ave | ok I'll give it a whirl, and yes, I'm using my own svn builds |
19:03:50 | scorche | try it on an official build first... |
19:03:54 | Ave | hah funny you should mention that |
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19:04:15 | Ave | I thought that my cable was faulty so I did cut it because I thought its been "worn out" |
19:04:24 | Ave | then remove a piece and solder it back together |
19:04:48 | Ave | I kept repeating this until I had something like 10 cm left, then I thought ok, the cable is broken at the connector boundary |
19:05:01 | DerPapst | hehe |
19:05:04 | Ave | then I got a spanking new cable and well, it exhibited the very same phenomane.. |
19:05:23 | scorche | i take it you dont have a multimeter? |
19:05:24 | Ave | oh well, so I have a new cable and the old one works too.. |
19:05:44 | Ave | I do, but you never know about intermittent problems |
19:06:02 | Ave | and the ipod-side connector osnt the easiest to measure |
19:08:04 | Ave | well, what do you know |
19:08:13 | Ave | after 4 retries (about 30 seconds) it gives up |
19:08:25 | Ave | Jul 27 20:07:11 Vaio kernel: [178262.636000] usb 5-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5 |
19:08:28 | Ave | Jul 27 20:07:13 Vaio kernel: [178263.748000] usb 5-3: device descriptor read/64, error -71 |
19:08:31 | Ave | like so |
19:08:36 | Ave | and finally: Jul 27 20:07:35 Vaio kernel: [178286.652000] usb 5-3: device not accepting address 8, error -71 |
19:08:57 | Ave | thanks :P so I just need little more patience |
19:09:17 | DerPapst | hehe.. like i said.. 20secs + :P |
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19:14:16 | Ave | yep |
19:15:34 | amiconn | eh? |
19:15:45 | amiconn | The 2nd gen is now playing :D |
19:15:50 | DerPapst | woohooo |
19:15:55 | amiconn | But I don't know why yet... |
19:16:07 | DerPapst | "Gentlemen, We have sound!" |
19:16:22 | Ave | wow thats something |
19:16:33 | Ave | 2nd gen nano? |
19:16:38 | amiconn | nah |
19:16:39 | scorche | heh... |
19:16:42 | DerPapst | 2ng gen Ipod |
19:16:48 | DerPapst | the old and big one |
19:16:55 | Ave | that makes panda sad |
19:16:56 | scorche | i was waiting for someone to come forard and ask if it was the nano =P |
19:17:28 | Ave | my friend been trying to score 1st gen used nano but they are pretty rare |
19:17:36 | Ave | I wouldnt mind 2nd gen nano myself for more space.. |
19:17:45 | DerPapst | imagine the confusion it well lead to when it is released on the fronpage :P |
19:17:49 | scorche | rare?...wow...where have you been looking? |
19:17:55 | Ave | in finland? |
19:18:02 | amiconn | I added a debug hack to the C fiq function and used that instead of the asm version. The hack doesn't work but it plays ?!?!? |
19:18:05 | DerPapst | they all stop reading after 2nd Gen and come here. |
19:18:16 | Ave | <g> poor people, someone might actually buy 2g nano and then be bummed |
19:18:37 | DerPapst | and start whining... "ipodpatcher dosn't find my ipod..." |
19:18:39 | scorche | their own fault then... |
19:19:00 | amiconn | Boost ratio is pretty high, but it plays ~200kbps vbr mp3 just fine |
19:19:09 | amiconn | ~88% boost |
19:19:39 | DerPapst | wow. |
19:19:51 | DerPapst | that sounds better than on 3G |
19:20:03 | amiconn | It should be the same... |
19:20:12 | amiconn | As soon as I have it working reliably, I'll try higher clock frequencies |
19:20:15 | DerPapst | 128kbpps have little skips in them |
19:20:20 | amiconn | I am aiming at the full 90 |
19:20:25 | amiconn | With latest svn?? |
19:20:37 | amiconn | Remember that old builds only ran at 66MHz boosted |
19:20:47 | DerPapst | hmmm. |
19:20:51 | DerPapst | tries now |
19:21:05 | * | amiconn thinks we should also raise the unboosted clock a little on the 5002 |
19:21:10 | amiconn | Maybe 33 or 35MHz |
19:21:12 | DerPapst | could be that my build was a bit older |
19:21:39 | * | amiconn will listen up to the end of this album, then send the l&g mail |
19:22:13 | DerPapst | hrmm... frozen on loading the mp3 :-/ |
19:22:30 | amiconn | uh? |
19:22:43 | amiconn | That means something is fishy with the fiq, I'd say |
19:23:15 | amiconn | The fun thing is that it doesn't skip even with the default wps |
19:23:23 | amiconn | (i.e. including peakmeters) |
19:23:53 | * | amiconn will disassemble what he created |
19:23:53 | DerPapst | frozen again.. ftw |
19:24:36 | * | DerPapst is not using the "Resume playback" option now |
19:26:16 | DerPapst | i can't get the music palying at all. |
19:26:25 | DerPapst | maybe the same problem that you have. |
19:26:43 | DerPapst | btw. that is also descibed on the forums. |
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19:27:51 | DerPapst | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=11792.msg88993#msg88993 |
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19:29:25 | shiftplusone | which of the voice files is actually slow enough to understand? ( my screen is broken so I have to go without one)= |
19:29:34 | amiconn | Then it does indeed look like an fiq problem (as that is the same for all PP5002 targets) |
19:29:49 | shiftplusone | I just downloaded a few voice files but... they're barely comprehendable. |
19:29:59 | amiconn | DerPapst: Do you remember what version your old build was? |
19:30:08 | amiconn | nm |
19:30:15 | * | amiconn should read more carefully |
19:30:21 | DerPapst | a pretty old one... |
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19:31:33 | amiconn | 13844 the forum post says... |
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19:32:01 | amiconn | That was from immediately before the >66MHz unlock |
19:32:45 | pixelma | shiftplusone: what player do you have? |
19:33:05 | shiftplusone | pixelma, ipod mini (2g) |
19:33:41 | DerPapst | amiconn: i'm trying othis build now: http://www.rockbox.org/daily/changelogs/changes-20070711.html |
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19:33:55 | pixelma | shiftplusone: ok... then you have free choice with the voice files - generally the larger file size ones are either slower or have better quality |
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19:34:34 | shiftplusone | pixelma, ok thanks, just found a decent one. |
19:35:39 | * | DerPapst wonders what happent to the TTS project... |
19:35:44 | DerPapst | *happend |
19:35:54 | DerPapst | (germish :)) |
19:36:27 | pixelma | shiftplusone: but unfortunately there is a bug atm that let's the processor stay boosted during playback with voice enabled (even if it wouldn't need to) - so batterylife will be even a bit worse (can't give you numbers) |
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19:36:42 | GodEater | DerPapst: markun says it's still happening |
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19:37:30 | shiftplusone | pixelma, should make up for it with my lack of a screen =/ |
19:37:54 | DerPapst | amiconn: ipod3g-20070711 is definitely broken |
19:38:09 | pixelma | shiftplusone: ah, ok... I overlooked that in the logs =) |
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19:39:50 | amiconn | Hmm, rebuffering plus peakmeters is obviously too much, it skipped |
19:42:25 | pixelma | barrywardell: I wanted to ask you about your wiki entry... did you really do the tests a year ago :P |
19:42:40 | linuxstb | amiconn: The uncommitted libmad patch should help - DerPapst reported that it increased his test track from about 118% to about 154% realtime on his 3G. |
19:42:49 | amiconn | linuxstb: I know |
19:43:07 | amiconn | I first need to find out why the C fiq works while the asm fiq does not |
19:43:21 | DerPapst | mmh... so 13844 is fine and some commit between 13844 and 13848 broke it. |
19:43:23 | linuxstb | In fact, I may have a look at that this evening - saratoga mentioned he tested the accuracy and it seemed fine. I may do a couple of similar tests and clean it up. |
19:43:59 | amiconn | I suspect a timing problem. Perhaps the increased clock frequency leads to the asm fiq trying to reset the interrupt source while it's still active |
19:44:17 | amiconn | ...so that it doesn't get reset after all, and hence doesn't fire again |
19:44:32 | DerPapst | i think it was 13845. the pretend-we-know-what-we-do commit |
19:44:37 | shiftplusone | is it just me or is the "Pause on headphone unplug." option missing in general settings? |
19:44:39 | amiconn | I wonder where the fiq registers are preloaded (for the asm) |
19:44:44 | shiftplusone | (latest build) |
19:44:45 | amiconn | linuxstb: Do you know that? |
19:44:59 | linuxstb | In crt0-pp.S I think |
19:45:02 | amiconn | DerPapst: Yes. Hence 'pretend' ;) |
19:45:15 | shiftplusone | sorry, it's there. |
19:45:19 | amiconn | I checked there already... maybe I overlooked it |
19:45:27 | amiconn | Too bad preglow isn't around :( |
19:45:48 | linuxstb | No, it's there. |
19:45:57 | linuxstb | e.g. search for IIS_CONFIG |
19:46:05 | DerPapst | where is the C fiq? so i can try it too.... |
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19:46:22 | amiconn | ummmmm |
19:46:47 | amiconn | DerPapst: change line 55 in pcm-pp.c from #if1 to #if 0 |
19:46:54 | DerPapst | ok |
19:47:08 | amiconn | Note: this switches to C fiq for _all_ PP targets, i.e. also later ipods |
19:47:32 | amiconn | You could also change it to #ifdef CPU_PP502x to avoid that |
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19:48:26 | DerPapst | i revert it once build. |
19:48:29 | DerPapst | but thanks :) |
19:48:58 | pixelma | shiftplusone: if you don't have a screen at all, maybe you could use a simulator to choose all the settings and the copy the config.cfg file to your Mini - I think that could work |
19:49:08 | pixelma | (a working screen) |
19:50:04 | shiftplusone | pixelma, yeah... no screen at all... but I am done with the setting... only had to change a few things. |
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19:52:31 | * | amiconn tries something |
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19:53:21 | DerPapst | wired internet... |
19:54:28 | DerPapst | bleh.... |
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19:54:34 | DerPapst | still frezing :( |
19:55:51 | DerPapst | shiftplusone: also better use a wps without peakmeters to save some cpu cycles and hence saving battery. |
19:56:29 | pixelma | you could even make a blank wps, I guess |
19:56:36 | DerPapst | using the c fiq doesn't change anything for me |
19:56:59 | DerPapst | are any parts of the wps spoken? |
19:57:07 | shiftplusone | DerPapst, I like your thinking. |
19:57:10 | DerPapst | e.g. some id3 tags |
19:57:10 | pixelma | no |
19:57:13 | DerPapst | ok |
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19:58:10 | DerPapst | any svn guru knows if it is possible to revert one commit (e.g. 138445) |
19:58:44 | amiconn | Why would you want that? |
19:58:53 | pixelma | wow... that wouldn't be reverting :P |
19:59:22 | DerPapst | to try out if r138445 broke loading music on 3G iPods |
19:59:57 | DerPapst | well.. i could do that manually |
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20:00:06 | DerPapst | it's only removing one line... |
20:00:27 | * | pixelma thought current revision is "only" at some 14000 |
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20:00:44 | GodEater | pixelma it is ;) |
20:00:56 | GodEater | DerPapst: is doing the same typo over and over ;) |
20:01:20 | pixelma | how many years in the future is 138445 theb ;P |
20:01:24 | pixelma | *then |
20:01:35 | GodEater | about 10 :) |
20:01:51 | DerPapst | GodEater: sry... which ONe? |
20:02:18 | GodEater | DerPapst: we don't have 130,000+ commits |
20:02:31 | GodEater | you keep typing 138,445 |
20:02:32 | pixelma | DerPapst: 138445 > 14000 |
20:02:44 | DerPapst | er.. i meant 13845 |
20:02:45 | DerPapst | :P |
20:02:48 | GodEater | hehe |
20:03:14 | _jz | Rockbox "Cassette" theme is the perfect theme for me and my Sansa e2xx !! |
20:04:14 | shiftplusone | is it possible to use ipodpatcher to add a different bootloader? (eg Loader2) |
20:04:27 | DerPapst | yes |
20:04:42 | DerPapst | ipodpatcher -ab loader2.bin |
20:04:54 | shiftplusone | ah thanks |
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20:10:36 | DerPapst | ok. it's the 'we (pretend to) know what we're doing so please let us' magic value for sure (r13845) that is breaking loading music on 3G iPods. |
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20:10:54 | amiconn | It's not, at least not only |
20:11:11 | amiconn | It freezes even without that, it's just less likely |
20:13:12 | DerPapst | true it happens from time to time. but with it it happens always. |
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20:15:11 | DerPapst | where do i have to look for the real cpu clock? Debug-> View Audio thread and Debug->CPU freq both pretend to run at 78MHz |
20:15:28 | amiconn | Looks like I have to dive into disassemblies and check what the OF does to keep it working |
20:15:37 | DerPapst | nvm |
20:15:40 | amiconn | DerPapst: View I/O ports |
20:15:40 | DerPapst | found it |
20:15:51 | DerPapst | yep.. 66MHz :-/ |
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20:16:10 | amiconn | This will be moved to View HW info once I fixed that (should display the hw version then as well) |
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20:17:26 | lontra | after i upgraded my software on rockbox it no longer auto-mounts in kde ... any ideas why? |
20:17:38 | DerPapst | can't even open 'View HW Info' right now... |
20:17:58 | amiconn | yes, as it's a null function |
20:18:04 | amiconn | Returns immediately |
20:18:34 | DerPapst | ah.. tat explains it :) |
20:18:41 | amiconn | yup |
20:19:09 | saratoga | preglow: you around? |
20:20:21 | amiconn | We could run the PP at a lower clock during fiq (using one of the divider modes) |
20:20:22 | GodEater | lontra: that's not really a rockbox question, although it may be as a result of rockbox being on your player. You need to read up on hald to debug it. |
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20:22:04 | lontra | GodEater: do you know how i'd reinstall the original apple software? maybe i'll start over again from stratch |
20:22:38 | amiconn | Looks like bygg.haxx.se is running debian _unstable_ |
20:23:34 | linuxstb | lontra: The manual has uninstall instructions. |
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20:25:11 | pili | HI there any program to control the ipod from linux? |
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20:25:23 | pili | *is there |
20:25:28 | linuxstb | pili: What do you mean? |
20:25:39 | linuxstb | And this is #rockbox... |
20:25:49 | pili | To make it reboot, load new firmware... |
20:25:54 | pili | I know |
20:26:04 | GodEater | linuxstb: I like how you always point that out AFTER you've half answered the question ;) |
20:26:13 | amiconn | Looks like the PP5002 is a less than half-baked chip |
20:26:23 | amiconn | (and the 5020 is just half baked) |
20:26:27 | GodEater | pili: you can't make it reboot from an external program on any OS - let alone linux |
20:26:28 | _jz | Oh my ! RockBox rox so much !!! =~))) |
20:26:28 | linuxstb | GodEater: That's because I'm half-nice and half-channel-police... |
20:26:56 | GodEater | pili: but ipodpatcher will let you do things with the firmware |
20:27:14 | linuxstb | Or even "dd"... |
20:27:26 | GodEater | linuxstb: if you're hardcore :) |
20:27:35 | pili | it's just that it seems to be hang |
20:27:39 | pili | k.o. |
20:27:53 | linuxstb | MENU+SELECT to reboot, then SELECT+PLAY for disk mode... |
20:28:08 | pili | thanx, i'll try |
20:28:12 | linuxstb | If that doesn't work, either your battery is empty or your ipod is broke... |
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20:29:08 | pili | maybe i unpluuged it wrong, but the screen is on, and showing a menu of songs. And this silly thing has got no buttons |
20:29:32 | * | amiconn wonders whether the timing registers have to do with the observed behaviour |
20:32:01 | linuxstb | amiconn: IIUC, the evolution was PP5002 (broken cache) -> PP5003 (fixed cache) -> PP5020 (fubar) -> PP5022 (works) |
20:32:11 | pili | Thanx a lot, linuxstb, I have to give the ipod back to my aunt. Unfortunatelly, I readed that is not possible to install rockbox on it |
20:32:28 | amiconn | Wasn't there a PP5004 as well? |
20:33:25 | DerPapst | fubar? that worse :D |
20:34:39 | GodEater | amiconn: yes there was |
20:34:44 | GodEater | think that's what the karma used |
20:35:02 | amiconn | And there seems to be a PP5026 as well |
20:35:16 | amiconn | At least the video OF checks for that |
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20:36:23 | GodEater | my mistake, the karma used the 5003 |
20:36:35 | * | linuxstb was about to say that... |
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20:36:57 | amiconn | Maybe it only exists as a prototype |
20:37:08 | GodEater | yeah, can't find anything on google about a pp5004 |
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20:38:49 | lxx | hi i copy Black_Glass_AA |
20:38:54 | lxx | wps to my ipod |
20:39:11 | linuxstb | Did you install the patches it needs? |
20:39:27 | lxx | but when mp3 file playing i dont see new buttons |
20:39:43 | lxx | what pathes? |
20:40:08 | lxx | what patches? |
20:40:37 | linuxstb | Where did you download it from? That should describe what unsupported features it needs. |
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20:41:41 | GodEater | lxx: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g#Chris_Banes_Senab |
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20:41:50 | GodEater | that says exactly what patches it requires |
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20:54:22 | lxx | i down know where i can download pathc for black glass |
20:54:36 | saratoga | linuxstb: regarding the MPA optimziation patch, how much testing do you think is required? |
20:55:01 | saratoga | i've looked at a few tracks and foudn almost no difference, and apparently its been standard in various custom builds for a while with no problems reported |
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20:56:00 | linuxstb | saratoga; What do you mean by "almost no difference" ? |
20:56:07 | saratoga | it basically just seems to change maybe 1 sample in 100 by a single bit |
20:56:25 | linuxstb | I guess we can live with that. |
20:56:32 | saratoga | i'm assuming it flips the order of a multiply somewhere and thus the rounding error is slightly different |
20:57:08 | saratoga | i could test more tracks if you think theres enough reason to do so |
20:57:46 | linuxstb | But you would be happy to commit it? |
20:58:07 | GodEater | lxx: you download them from flyspray |
20:58:14 | saratoga | yes I'm happy to commit it, but then I generally prefer to commit things and see if people complain :) |
20:58:37 | lxx | what is it flyspray? |
20:58:56 | GodEater | lxx: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=4 |
20:59:46 | linuxstb | saratoga: I think it's rotted on the tracker for long enough - I'll try and commit it later this evening. |
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21:00:19 | saratoga | linuxstb: good |
21:00:31 | saratoga | theres one warning about an unused variable still |
21:00:40 | saratoga | want me to kill that ? |
21:00:56 | DerPapst | poor unused variable :( |
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21:01:01 | linuxstb | lxx: A "patch" is a set of changes to the Rockbox source code. So you need to apply those changes to the Rockbox source code and compile your own build. Or use a build that someone else has made - you can find them in the "unsupported builds" forum. |
21:01:38 | linuxstb | saratoga: If it's obvious, then don't worry - I'll fix it when I test it. |
21:02:26 | saratoga | yeah looks pretty obvious |
21:02:49 | saratoga | anyway this should make MP3 faster then WMA again, so it'll be good to have it |
21:03:21 | linuxstb | That's a challenge for you then... |
21:03:58 | saratoga | yeah it is |
21:04:08 | linuxstb | Speaking of which, does anyone know if there's a difference in the battery life of most original firmwares comparing MP3 with WMA? |
21:04:20 | GodEater | hahahaha |
21:04:29 | GodEater | we all have a clue remember |
21:05:20 | saratoga | most of the product briefs i've seen on google for wma and mp3 decoders give the same MIPS requirements, so probably not much |
21:05:29 | lxx | so where i can download patch ? |
21:05:36 | Llorean | linuxstb: I believe the battery life in the H100's firmware was supposed to be longer with WMA, but they compared 64kbps wma to 128kbps MP3 for that |
21:06:08 | GodEater | lxx: just download an unsupported build, that link I gave you earlier tells you some recommended ones |
21:06:19 | DerPapst | whod |
21:06:25 | DerPapst | ^ ignore |
21:06:30 | GodEater | lxx: it even gives you links to the forum threads to get them from |
21:07:05 | DerPapst | 2nd try... who'd have thought that today is the "System Administrator Appreciation Day"? http://sysadminday.com/ |
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21:18:13 | lxx | what different betwen unsupported build and supported? |
21:18:39 | GodEater | lxx: once you start using unsupported, any issues you have, we get to ignore you ;) |
21:19:34 | linuxstb | lxx: Or put differently, unsupported builds are versions of rockbox that other people (not the official developers) have modified in some way - so we can't help you with problems, you'll need to ask the person providing the build. |
21:20:07 | GodEater | linuxstb: spoilsport ;) |
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21:20:43 | lxx | except wps support pluses they have ? and how much this unuported builds for ipod80gb? |
21:22:53 | saratoga | how is the MOB project proceeding anyway? |
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21:23:28 | Llorean | linuxstb: Have you seen this http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7487 ? |
21:23:59 | Llorean | saratoga: There's an SVN with work-in-progress code (a test/sample plugin as well as a diff toward merging) |
21:24:22 | Llorean | There's a stumbling block dealing with very large files (larger than the buffer) still, I believe. |
21:25:16 | saratoga | Llorean: is Nicolas expecting to finish before the end of the summer? |
21:25:56 | Llorean | I don't know at this very moment, but I think it's still reasonable that he will. |
21:26:04 | linuxstb | Llorean: No, I hadn't seen that mpegplayer patch. But as jhMikeS has been talking about the buffering/seeking code in mpegplayer, hopefully he can look at it, and give the authors feedback. |
21:26:47 | Llorean | saratoga: The new code already successfully buffers and releases series of files, the problem is now specifically in the metadata handling I believe. |
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21:27:45 | lxx | what Unsupported Builds better? |
21:31:20 | lxx | ? |
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21:33:08 | Llorean | lxx: That's something you have to decide for yourself. |
21:34:55 | lxx | how i can understand exist only two usupported builds for ipod 80gb its Senab and EvilG build or any others exist? |
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21:39:12 | Llorean | lxx: They're unsupported. We don't keep track of them. If that's all you find, then okay. |
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21:49:47 | lontra | my ipod is formatted in mac format and i am trying to install rockbox on it via linux ... however it's not letting me cause i am not getting permissions to write on it ... is there a way to install rockbox on it from linux when it's the mac os file format? |
21:52:09 | saratoga | lontra: sure, I don't remember how it works, but I believe you convert it to fat32 and then install rockbox |
21:52:24 | saratoga | there should be intructions somewhere on rockbox.org or the manual |
21:53:13 | lontra | saratoga: you mean with fdisk? |
21:54:43 | GodEater | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodConversionToFAT32 |
21:54:58 | GodEater | lontra: you said earlier though you'd already installed rockbox |
21:55:00 | GodEater | so I'm confused |
21:56:30 | lontra | GodEater: i did but i reinstall it to factory default but i only have a mac os computer here ... now it's working right but i want to put rockbox back on cause i borked it somehow |
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22:00:03 | GodEater | Domonoky: was fat32 conversion something that was going to get built into RButil ? |
22:00:24 | lontra | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodConversionToFAT32 ... i have a 1GB nano not a 2GB |
22:00:54 | Domonoky | GodEater_: if ipodpatcher supports it, i will integrate it :-) |
22:01:03 | GodEater | ipodpatcher doesn't |
22:01:06 | GodEater | it's a manual process |
22:01:30 | saratoga | lontra: I think you'll need to use a Windows pc or find someone to upload a 1 GB nano image |
22:01:36 | Domonoky | GodEater: yeah, but linuxstb planned something for ipodpatcher, i think ... |
22:01:47 | GodEater | lontra: yes, saratoga is right |
22:02:04 | linuxstb | GodEater: I'm working on it now... |
22:02:12 | lontra | crap |
22:02:15 | GodEater | must have missed you mentioning that |
22:03:18 | GodEater | lontra: sorry - we've only got images for those players, and we can only get others as people who own the hardware give them to us |
22:03:42 | * | Domonoky is rebuilding the bootloader installations for rbutilQt :-) and hopes for bluebrother to build the Ui :-) |
22:04:03 | lontra | oh well thanks for the help guys ... i think i'll reset it to factory defaults in a windows computer and then reformat it for rockbox |
22:04:20 | lontra | GodEater: could i help there? i am going to go track down a windows computer ... |
22:04:30 | GodEater | lontra: once you've done the factory defaults, the reformat is not necessary |
22:04:42 | lontra | GodEater: ok ... thanks for the help |
22:04:49 | GodEater | lontra: certainly, once you've done the restore, we can tell you how to get the image for us |
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22:06:18 | * | linuxstb just lost a beta-tester... |
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22:08:15 | GodEater | linuxstb: maybe he'll be back |
22:10:45 | pixelma | but maybe he'll also will have converted it to a winpod... |
22:10:57 | pixelma | already |
22:11:01 | GodEater | yes, but he's capable of converting it back again |
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22:20:27 | DerPapst | you can even convert it to a winpod without having a mbr from a winpod... |
22:23:22 | GodEater | DerPapst: perhaps you could change our wiki page to reflect this method ? |
22:23:22 | lxx | can someone say rockbox working with this fm trasmitter http://us.kensington.com/html/6402.html ???? |
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22:24:44 | DerPapst | GodEater: shoudl be possible with fdisk and dd. |
22:27:45 | GodEater | if you know the partition sizes... |
22:27:52 | saratoga | i like this whole low bitrate coding thing WMA does |
22:28:01 | saratoga | since it treats each frequency band as basically its own codec |
22:28:16 | saratoga | when I hear a problem, I just fft the results and it immediately tells me where the bug is |
22:28:50 | DerPapst | I've collected a few... |
22:29:03 | DerPapst | but with guessing it might work too ;) |
22:29:49 | * | GodEater would prefer not to guess |
22:30:55 | DerPapst | Here are some partiiton tables and instructions. http://www.ipodlinux.org/Restore_without_ITunes |
22:34:29 | lxx | who have kensington Digital FM Transmitter/Auto Charger for iPod ? |
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22:40:55 | * | linuxstb successfully runs "ipodpatcher −−convert" |
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22:45:02 | Llorean | Aha. I now know why WinFF fails completely on ubuntu. |
22:45:10 | Llorean | The ubuntu ffmpeg is built without MP3 support. |
22:45:11 | DerPapst | linuxstb: w00t :D |
22:45:19 | * | Llorean sighs |
22:45:45 | amiconn | mmmrhm |
22:45:54 | linuxstb | DerPapst: Sadly not for 5.5gs though - only 512-byte sectors. |
22:46:06 | Llorean | Still, it's a significant step. |
22:46:09 | amiconn | The 2nd gen OF has a ton of partial fiq routines which write to the i2s fifo |
22:46:23 | Llorean | linuxstb: Is 5.5G going to be a significant amount more work? |
22:46:35 | amiconn | But I can't find the first part |
22:47:03 | linuxstb | Llorean: The partition table should be trivial, the problem is the formatting - someone who knows more about FAT than me needs to adapt ipodpatcher's formatting feature to 2048-byte sectors. |
22:47:24 | Llorean | Ah |
22:48:26 | DerPapst | linuxstb: better than nothing :) |
22:49:33 | amiconn | Looks like the OF supports a whole bunch of different data formats in its pcm buffer, and there's one fiq routine per format |
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22:51:04 | GodEater | linuxstb: isn't that windows formatfat32 utility open source ? |
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22:51:50 | linuxstb | GodEater: That's exactly what's already in ipodpatcher... |
22:51:57 | linuxstb | But it doesn't support 2048-byte disks. |
22:52:12 | GodEater | oh really - I didn't realise - thought it did |
22:52:41 | * | amiconn counts 12 different routines |
22:52:50 | linuxstb | fat32format is the (GPL'd) tool I copied - I assume that's what you meant. |
22:52:58 | GodEater | that's the one |
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22:54:58 | GodEater | shame the mtools code base is such a convoluted mess |
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23:10:43 | DerPapst | linuxstb: where do you get the information from how big the firmware partition is and how big the fat32 one is? |
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23:11:03 | DerPapst | from the apple partition map? |
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23:22:55 | linuxstb | DerPapst: Yes - ipodpatcher has been parsing the apple partition map for a while. |
23:23:34 | linuxstb | So it just writes that info to a DOS partition table, changes the type of the second partition to FAT32, and formats it. |
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23:27:35 | amiconn | hi Bagder |
23:27:44 | amiconn | What's up with bygg.haxx.se? |
23:27:47 | Bagder | hey, nice work on the ipods |
23:27:59 | Bagder | bygg is Zagor's child |
23:28:04 | amiconn | ok |
23:28:24 | amiconn | It segfaults its way through the builds... |
23:28:25 | DerPapst | linuxstb: ah ok... |
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23:28:59 | Bagder | weird |
23:30:24 | DerPapst | linuxstb: is ipodpatcher detecting a drive as ipod when the (DOS) partition table seems to be correct? so it can be used to resore an iPod in linux? |
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23:32:52 | linuxstb | DerPapst: I'm not sure what you mean. But basically ipodpatcher requires a working ipod. |
23:34:49 | * | amiconn didn't find what he was looking for yet, but sth else |
23:35:10 | amiconn | I found a bunch of cache setup functions |
23:35:35 | amiconn | Now if I can find the equivalent in a PP5020 firmware, that should allow some conclusions |
23:36:44 | Bagder | I don't get the segfault now when I build manually ;-/ |
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23:39:19 | DerPapst | linuxstb: i mean maybe someone has screwed up his ipod (e.g. corruped filesystem and accidently overwritten mbr) and only has linux and wants to restore his ipod. (S)He could use fdisk to recreate the iPods mbr (fist partition type 0 in a sufficient and second type b or c). Would ipodpatcher detect the iPod and an iPod and let the user format it and write the firmare on the first partition? |
23:40:03 | linuxstb | A Linux user doesn't need ipodpatcher for that... |
23:40:32 | linuxstb | But yes, it could do - -wf to write the firmware, and −−format to format the main partition. |
23:40:46 | linuxstb | I mean -w to write the firmware... |
23:40:49 | DerPapst | ;) |
23:41:26 | DerPapst | so it would detect it even without the apple stop sign or some other magic... |
23:41:29 | linuxstb | In fact, it wouldn't work - ipodpatcher needs a valid firmware partition. So the user would need to dd it. |
23:41:55 | DerPapst | aha... |
23:42:11 | linuxstb | It only seems to be IPL users who break their ipod's partition layout anyway... ;) |
23:42:29 | DerPapst | correct :P |
23:42:38 | amiconn | Couldn't ipodpatcher try to recreate a firmware partition as well |
23:43:04 | amiconn | Like the ipod updater, only open, portable, and not installing annoying system services |
23:43:35 | DerPapst | i was hoping for something like that ^ |
23:43:44 | linuxstb | Yes, it could... |
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23:45:13 | DerPapst | it would help a lot to cut down support requests from people who are messing up their ipod every day... |
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23:47:04 | DerPapst | but i guess your opinion about ipodpatcher not being a restore utility hasn't changed :P |
23:48:14 | linuxstb | I've no objection to anyone else doing it, but no, it's still not something I'm that interested in. (although you're breaking be down slowly...) |
23:48:35 | Llorean | Isn't that also dangerous? If an iPod is badly enough messed up that it needs a restore, often it's hardly recognizable as an iPod. Won't they have to point the tool at a device and say "Yes, I assure you this is an iPod?" |
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23:49:09 | DerPapst | Llorean: yes. that would be necessary, |
23:49:39 | Llorean | How does the Apple restore utility detect that a formatted NTFS drive used to be an iPod then? |
23:49:55 | linuxstb | Llorean: That's been the main thing stopping me. Although for the PP5020 ipods, there's the scsi inquiry method of detection. |
23:50:21 | linuxstb | ^PP502x |
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23:50:58 | DerPapst | which is even available as open source. |
23:51:06 | * | DerPapst stops beeing annoying now ;) |
23:51:32 | Llorean | I mean, I see the value in giving people a tool that can brute force make their iPod usable, but with what some of our users do I'm sure somebody will point it at their main disk. |
23:51:55 | Llorean | How much rope do you give 'em? ;) |
23:52:17 | DerPapst | their own fault i would say... |
23:52:28 | linuxstb | Llorean: http://ipodlinux.org/Device_Information |
23:52:34 | Insectoid | check for windos dirs, mayhaps? |
23:52:38 | DerPapst | they could do the same mistakw with dd either |
23:52:51 | amiconn | I'd think a utility that e.g. checks the scsi enquiry is less dangerous than the powerful dd |
23:53:16 | DerPapst | ifact... i have seen already 2 in #ipodlinux doing that :D |
23:53:24 | Llorean | DerPapst: Yeah, but with DD they don't expect the degree of safety that iPodPatcher shows. |
23:53:46 | DerPapst | use more UPPERCASE warning then maybe ;) |
23:53:52 | Llorean | But that scsi thing might be good though |
23:54:49 | amiconn | Iirc there is a function in windows that tells you whether a volume is the system volume |
23:55:27 | amiconn | I don't know whether and how this is available in linux, but the device name might also give a hint |
23:55:28 | Llorean | Maybe any time there's any uncertainty a message saying "WE CANNOT DETERMINE IF THIS DEVICE IS AN IPOD. Run again with the −−force command if you are sure." or something similar. |
23:55:41 | amiconn | (the name that appears in the windows device manager) |
23:57:06 | amiconn | DerPapst: Regarding the hangs, it seems that the audio stuff doesn't like when the cpu clock changes while it's being initialised |
23:57:31 | amiconn | If I boost manually so that it's running at 78MHz all the time, it always starts playing |
23:58:16 | amiconn | Yes, even with asm fiq |
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