00:00:27 | eigma | Dark_Apostrophe: that is awesome |
00:00:54 | Dark_Apostrophe | eigma: :D |
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00:01:14 | eigma | boo, they're gone |
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00:08:38 | amiconn | n1s: I didn't try that patch yet, but from reading I have to say I don't like the described changes in behaviour |
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00:09:44 | amiconn | (namely the shortened delays and the shutup) |
00:10:17 | n1s | amiconn: with the talk clips in the file browser? |
00:10:30 | amiconn | And also the continuous speech might be problematic, testing on Sansa is not representative as it is flash based |
00:10:34 | amiconn | n1s: yes |
00:11:49 | n1s | amiconn: I have never used that feature so I can't comment, but I think I will try it out before committing anything, could you add your comments to the FS entry? |
00:12:12 | amiconn | I found another voice related problem (or rather, quirk) |
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00:13:43 | amiconn | If menu voicing is enabled but initial screen is e.g. the file browser, the voice file is not loaded on boot but when first needed |
00:14:39 | amiconn | While on coldfire it's possible to move around the menu while the voice file is loaded in the background, PP targets appear frozen during this load operation |
00:15:52 | n1s | amiconn: I have experienced three different bugs when using voice, 1) it hangs on the "shutting down" splash about half the times I shut down and it appears something times out and there's an unclean poweroff with playlist position, changed settings etc, lost... |
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00:16:03 | amiconn | And another one - my H10 reproducably freezes on shutdown if menu voice is enabled. I always have to disconnect the battery. This may be related to the PP5020 specifc problems |
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00:16:31 | amiconn | n1s: On what target? |
00:16:45 | n1s | 2) "Loading" is spoken when auto change directory happens |
00:16:48 | n1s | amiconn: h300 |
00:17:07 | amiconn | Freezes became _very_ rare for me on coldfire since pondlife's (?) latest fix |
00:17:13 | amiconn | On H1x0, that is |
00:17:52 | amiconn | I had a total of 2 freezes in several weeks. Before, I sometimes had several freezes per day |
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00:18:09 | n1s | 3) one bug which is in the tracker, if i start up with autoresume the first menu item is not spoken when entering the menu, but I assume that is the same issue as your first. |
00:18:12 | amiconn | ..and my H1x0 most often runs with speech enabled for in-car use |
00:18:26 | RaZorbacK | please what does mean "stripping crs from patch"? i've just applied a patch, no errors but many of those "stripping crs" |
00:18:44 | n1s | amiconn: that hang only happends when shutting down while playing back, without stopping first |
00:18:51 | amiconn | ah |
00:19:02 | * | amiconn _always_ stops playback before shutting down |
00:19:02 | Zagor | what is the status on the usb front currently? who is (if anyone) working on it? |
00:19:11 | n1s | RaZorbacK: that the patch contains dos line endings |
00:19:19 | amiconn | ..and I wouldn't experience (2) because I also never use auto-change directory |
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00:19:38 | pixelma | haven't experienced such severe voice related bugs on M5 either, only that when playlist ends and I'm dropped back to the filebrowser it doesn't speak the selected item (spelling) - it only starts talking when I start browsing |
00:19:47 | amiconn | But the 'Loading..' splash has other effects - sometimes it's voiced twice when loading plugins |
00:20:20 | RaZorbacK | n1s: and does it mean the patch haven't been well applied? |
00:20:22 | pixelma | I meant that I have voice set to spell the filenames |
00:20:35 | petur | Zagor: austriancoder told me he had some code but no time, I asked him to put it online. I've been going through some tests and the code to fix stuff |
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00:21:42 | n1s | RaZorbacK: it only means that the patch command strippe dthose line endigns and used only unix ones, the patch should have applied fine if those are the only errors |
00:21:49 | amiconn | hmmm |
00:21:53 | Zagor | petur: ok. so what is the state of the code? does anything work at all? are the basic structure complete and/or sound? etc? |
00:22:16 | Zagor | I'm considering diving into that |
00:22:23 | RaZorbacK | N1S: thank you |
00:22:47 | petur | Zagor: the basics appear to work, the pc recognizes it as MSC. But the actual MSC driver isn't ready |
00:23:34 | petur | Some of the compliance tests also fail |
00:24:14 | amiconn | Even hardware bridges aren't always 100% compliant though |
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00:24:49 | * | bluebrother didn't want to turn down fm2 but just _had_ to comment on this menu reordering thing |
00:24:59 | amiconn | When I got my archos recorder and the usb controller for my amiga, it didn't want to connect first. Had to mail the usb stack's author and he had to implement a workaround |
00:25:02 | petur | the tests also run much slower with the H10 connected compared to an usb stick |
00:25:45 | amiconn | That stack isn't open source, unfortunately |
00:27:51 | * | petur walks around in the recording code and find things quite complicated |
00:27:52 | n1s | petur: how about with an h10 with OF? |
00:28:08 | petur | let me try |
00:28:08 | n1s | for comparing test speeds |
00:28:28 | amiconn | H10 OF usb is quite slow |
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00:29:39 | Zagor | petur: could you whip up a quick wiki page with some info? i.e. where to find the compliance tests, how you've tested etc? and of course as much other info you feel like jotting down. |
00:29:41 | petur | hmmm the compliance tests run way faster with OF... more work there too |
00:30:09 | petur | now? |
00:31:07 | Zagor | well, whenever you like. we have UsbSoftwareStack already, maybe it should be updated instead of writing a new. |
00:31:41 | petur | yes... I may have some time tomorrow... |
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00:59:00 | n1s | Does anyone know the playlist code? |
00:59:16 | * | n1s looks in MAINTAINERS |
00:59:44 | n1s | bah, noone knows it... |
00:59:55 | petur | hardeep? |
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01:00:18 | n1s | he isn't around very often :-/ |
01:00:40 | Zagor | he was here in may :) |
01:01:03 | petur | and recently on the ML |
01:01:23 | Zagor | yeah, I jumped when I saw that |
01:01:48 | n1s | then he probably won't remember tiny details as in which conditions a particular function may be called... |
01:02:14 | * | n1s digs in the code instead |
01:02:21 | Zagor | hardeep is not human, so I actually wouldn't be surprised if he remembered... |
01:02:36 | petur | eh? |
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01:03:03 | Zagor | heh, that sounded strange. it was meant as a joke. he's got a sharp mind. |
01:03:11 | petur | ah ok... |
01:03:30 | petur | the opposite of me then |
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01:07:39 | Zagor | heh, I'm scraping rust from him |
01:08:09 | petur | I thought he ran on the webserver... |
01:08:19 | Zagor | he does |
01:08:37 | petur | first thing I did was check if the site was still up ;) |
01:08:43 | Zagor | hehe |
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01:10:52 | n1s | Ok so the "Shuffling" splash doesn't seem to make sense anywherere, so anyone against me just kinning it? :-D |
01:10:58 | n1s | s/kinning/killing |
01:11:36 | Zagor | I don't mind |
01:13:13 | pixelma | doesn't it tell you when you reshuffle the playlist or something? |
01:13:51 | Zagor | even on my old archos with a 10000-file playlist it only shows for about one second. |
01:14:03 | Zagor | so I'd say it's mostly noise |
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01:15:24 | pixelma | can't remember seeing it myself but I use the shuffle options very seldem - either I use "insert shuffled" or just listen to it ordered |
01:15:38 | n1s | pixelma: it only splashes on automatic shuffles such as when auto changing dir or opening a new playlist file when shuffle is on but then it is only visible for a very short period as a "Loading" is displayed before it |
01:16:01 | n1s | ok, I'll kill it and see if anyone complains |
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01:22:36 | joecool | hey, anyone in here having luck running IPL's loader2 with rockbox? |
01:23:42 | scorche | loader2 is unsupported here |
01:24:21 | linuxstb_ | joecool: As long as you use the most recent version of loader2, it should be fine. But as scorche said, we can't really help with the details (we didn't write it). |
01:24:33 | joecool | figures, i'll bug someone at #ipodlinux then, i didn't "ask" if it was supported, i asked if it works |
01:25:10 | scorche | however, we "tell" you to read our guidelines before speaking ;) |
01:25:59 | joecool | well it might not be supported but it was rockbox related, so I figured I'd give it a go |
01:26:14 | joecool | it's ok though, I'll figure it out |
01:26:50 | scorche | (for future reference rockbox related means relating to rockbox...not getting other software to work with rockbox) |
01:27:29 | joecool | fine fine, lets not get too technical :P |
01:27:31 | joecool | thanks anyway |
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01:28:02 | scorche | just trying to clarify if anything is murky =) |
01:29:29 | joecool | in any case, screw dual booting it at the moment, i might as well just get rockbox on at the moment, used to mess around with ipodlinux quite a bit in the past and figured it was only natural to give your firmware a shot |
01:29:59 | scorche | well, triple booting |
01:30:08 | scorche | rockbox's bootloader can boot IPL as well |
01:30:47 | joecool | oh really, you guys actually have a more advanced bootloader now? |
01:31:01 | scorche | it has been able to boot IPL for a long time.. |
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01:31:11 | pixelma | what do you mean with more advanced? |
01:31:12 | linuxstb_ | It could boot IPL before it could boot Rockbox... |
01:31:35 | linuxstb_ | (as Rockbox didn't exist when the bootloader first worked) |
01:31:39 | joecool | can it boot stock too? |
01:31:47 | linuxstb_ | (I mean Rockbox on the ipod) |
01:31:58 | * | linuxstb_ should try and get things right first time... |
01:32:13 | pixelma | someone with more forum rights should have a look at the recent posts... |
01:32:34 | joecool | linuxstb_: i know, i used to play around with IPL when it first got on the 4G |
01:32:59 | joecool | pixelma: I had assumed rockbox used its own loader capable of loading ONLY rockbox and not stock or IPL |
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01:33:50 | scorche | well, the manual even tells you that it can boot the OF |
01:34:02 | pixelma | no it's able to triple boot and as already mentioned it has been this way for quite a while (you just don't get a fancy menu) |
01:34:08 | scorche | as for it's linux booting capabilities, i thinkk that is a bit hidden |
01:34:21 | scorche | (which is faster as well) |
01:34:40 | scorche | pixelma: done |
01:34:51 | petur | pixelma: don't you have mod rights? |
01:35:06 | pixelma | nope, I'm just an artist |
01:35:13 | joecool | yeah that works, it was my only concern before jumping to the firmware |
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01:35:35 | petur | scorche: what did you do, I just removed the link from the games post |
01:35:37 | linuxstb_ | joecool: The Rockbox bootloader can triple-boot, but we don't want to slow things down with a menu. But as you know, if you want a boot menu, you can use loader2. |
01:35:48 | scorche | petur: there was another post in another thread |
01:35:58 | petur | fine |
01:36:12 | joecool | linuxstb_: no that's perfectly fine, i'm good without a menu... thanks for the help |
01:36:20 | joecool | rather "clarification" |
01:37:30 | scorche | linuxstb_: i am off to the post office |
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01:40:03 | n1s | all green, I'm out too, gnight |
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01:46:03 | Budtard | hi, does anyone know where to get a gameboy emulator for ipod? |
01:46:56 | hcs | Budtard: rockbox comes with one, rockboy |
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02:08:56 | RenHere | Evening Folks - I received new Snasa E280 - intalled rockbox pretty much out of the box all fine. Went to dual boot to load some files and it hangs, same with connecting to USB port just hang with a small amount of text on the screen then fades out. Need some help |
02:09:16 | * | scorche sighs |
02:09:29 | chrisjs169 | RenHere, E280 or E280R? |
02:09:36 | RenHere | E280 no R |
02:09:54 | chrisjs169 | ok, how'd you install Rockbox? with sansapatcher? |
02:10:00 | RenHere | yes |
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02:10:22 | chrisjs169 | ok, what text appeared on the screen? |
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02:12:07 | RenHere | will take me a little time to get to that state and I have very little time with the info on the screen before it FADES out - this moment I have the unit in the Revovery screen (16MG) but did not want to precede since I'm not familuar with that proceddure |
02:12:19 | Dark_Apostrophe | markun: Are you around? |
02:12:55 | chrisjs169 | RenHere, ok, I'm starting to blame sansapatcher now... |
02:13:13 | chrisjs169 | RenHere, can you see what the last line says before it fades? |
02:13:30 | RenHere | chrisls do u have skype by any chance to chat on voice for a few minutes? |
02:13:40 | linuxstb_ | Dark_Apostrophe: Any luck with your GB? |
02:13:48 | chrisjs169 | RenHere, no, sorry |
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02:14:00 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb_: That's what I'm working on |
02:14:03 | chrisjs169 | RenHere, does it say "sansa key used" before fading? |
02:14:05 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb_: Just opened it up |
02:14:13 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb_: I got a question with regards to the guide |
02:14:30 | Dark_Apostrophe | # Re-attach the hard drive WITH THE GIGABEAT STILL TURNED ON! It's a usb drive so that kind of thing is ok. |
02:14:30 | Dark_Apostrophe | # Go to the Gigabeat drive in Windows Explorer and copy the GBSYSTEM folder to the Gigabeat as per the instructions in the manual. |
02:14:39 | Dark_Apostrophe | First: I use Debian |
02:14:46 | Dark_Apostrophe | Second: Where do I find GBSYSTEM? |
02:14:48 | RenHere | ok - I hope I can safely go back to the fail mode if I unplus ubs and just restart power normal I should come up in RB mode then I can try the dualboot and ctch info |
02:14:51 | Dark_Apostrophe | I don't see it on the included CD |
02:15:00 | Dark_Apostrophe | Third: Which manual? |
02:15:25 | linuxstb_ | Dark_Apostrophe: Your gigabeat should have a GBSYSTEM folder there already - you'll be able to see it with whatever you use to look at files in Debian. |
02:15:34 | chrisjs169 | RenHere, you shouldn't have any problems, but be sure to safely remove/unmount the Sansa if needed before disconnecting the USB cable |
02:15:35 | Dark_Apostrophe | Ah, ok |
02:15:42 | RenHere | I don't seem to recall that chris but it was very late like 2AM here when I found the dualboot issue so I will have to confirm |
02:15:50 | chrisjs169 | ok |
02:15:53 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb_: I thought it was meant that I copy the GBSYSTEM *to* the gigabeat |
02:16:14 | chrisjs169 | RenHere, I have an old copy of sansapatcher, so you may want to try that after seeing what the last line says |
02:16:32 | RenHere | sounds gud I will be back as soon as I can get back to the text mode with info to share |
02:16:55 | linuxstb_ | Inside GBSYSTEM is another directory called FWIMG, and inside there you should find a file called FWIMG01.DAT - that's the rockbox bootloader you need to replace with the newest version |
02:17:25 | linuxstb_ | At the same time, you should install the latest Rockbox build. |
02:17:36 | Dark_Apostrophe | Sounds good to me |
02:17:46 | chrisjs169 | RenHere, one possible problem - the copy of Sansapatcher that I have is Linux only - I'll see if I can find a Windows copy |
02:18:28 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb_: Okay, so I move the BATTERY switch back to On, turn it on then when it fubars, I connect the drive? |
02:18:29 | linuxstb_ | RenHere: http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/e200/v0.2/ |
02:19:14 | chrisjs169 | linuxstb_, barely beat me ;) |
02:19:40 | linuxstb_ | Dark_Apostrophe: Sounds right to me. |
02:19:57 | chrisjs169 | linuxstb_, is it possible that an SVN update messed up sansapatcher? |
02:21:27 | linuxstb_ | I'm not sure what you mean |
02:22:44 | chrisjs169 | I haven't tested sansapatcher recently, but now it seems that people with both the e200R and e200 are having trouble booting the OF (unless this time was just a user error) |
02:23:24 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb_: So where do I find the latest versions of these files? |
02:23:48 | linuxstb_ | Dark_Apostrophe: They're linked to in the manual. |
02:23:52 | Dark_Apostrophe | Ok |
02:24:18 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb_: Well, there is a link to GBSYSTEM |
02:24:22 | Dark_Apostrophe | But not anything else |
02:24:32 | Dark_Apostrophe | Except a splash screen |
02:25:46 | linuxstb_ | Are you reading the manual? |
02:26:09 | Dark_Apostrophe | partially |
02:26:13 | Dark_Apostrophe | I usually skim |
02:26:19 | linuxstb_ | Install chapter, 2.2.4, ... |
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02:27:32 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb_: Ooh |
02:27:35 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb_: Didn't see that |
02:34:53 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb_: It's not booting at all |
02:35:27 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb_: I hold the power button, but nothing happens |
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02:35:42 | linuxstb_ | Try toggling the battery switch. |
02:35:54 | Dark_Apostrophe | Ick. |
02:35:59 | Dark_Apostrophe | That might be a problem: |
02:36:02 | Dark_Apostrophe | It's not there :o |
02:36:10 | Dark_Apostrophe | must've fallen out |
02:36:18 | linuxstb_ | Oh yes, be careful of that... |
02:36:52 | Dark_Apostrophe | ok, it booted now |
02:38:50 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb_: http://paste.debian.net/37723 |
02:38:55 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb_: my dmesg output |
02:39:24 | Dark_Apostrophe | oh wait |
02:39:25 | Dark_Apostrophe | never mind |
02:39:30 | Dark_Apostrophe | That's my USB drive |
02:39:34 | Dark_Apostrophe | From earlier today |
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02:40:09 | Dark_Apostrophe | From line 544 is the gigabeat |
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03:04:14 | linuxstb_ | joecool: Yes, but ipodpatcher > ipod_fw |
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03:12:54 | jhMikeS | hmmm...there doesn't seem to be swp(b) problem on PP5020 after all but very odd stuff with IDE. |
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03:16:40 | psycho_maniac | is there a way to download the source tree to a different directory in vmware? |
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03:21:34 | ddalton | aliask: around? |
03:21:55 | aliask | Yep |
03:23:10 | ddalton | aliask: Does the c200 not support shortcuts.c |
03:24:01 | aliask | It should... |
03:24:16 | ddalton | I am looking at your commit (14806) |
03:24:30 | ddalton | you removed it I think |
03:24:52 | aliask | Yes, I made a mistake though. I removed it because shortcuts is now in SUBDIRS, not SOURCES |
03:24:56 | ddalton | from the sources file |
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03:25:07 | ddalton | ok then |
03:26:02 | * | AlexC lives in a house |
03:26:48 | * | XavierGr has a working alarm on his H300 :) |
03:27:42 | psycho_maniac | maybe like this? svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox_modified ? |
03:28:53 | aliask | psycho_maniac: The last argument that svn co takes is the directory to write to |
03:29:11 | psycho_maniac | so then the answer would be "yes" ? |
03:29:24 | aliask | If you say so |
03:29:40 | psycho_maniac | i was asking you? i want to download the source to a different folder. |
03:30:23 | aliask | Then yes |
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03:30:45 | psycho_maniac | thank you |
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03:32:54 | TMM | Bagder: hi! :) are you there? |
03:33:30 | TMM | Bagder: I need you for something quite specific, I'm not just being annoying :P |
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03:35:38 | psycho_maniac | TMM: just ask the question. |
03:36:04 | TMM | psycho_maniac: this wasn't a question :) |
03:40:00 | psycho_maniac | anybody ever test out the infoNES plugin? |
03:40:54 | joecool | mmm rockbox sounds damn good on my UM2's |
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03:44:56 | RaZorbacK | please is there a commandd to update my source to a particular revision number? |
03:45:47 | aliask | svn co -r 12345 |
03:45:55 | RaZorbacK | ok thanks |
03:46:44 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb_: Are you around? |
03:46:52 | linuxstb | Yes |
03:46:59 | Dark_Apostrophe | Ok, I need help. :) |
03:47:26 | Dark_Apostrophe | I tried replacing the files on the gigabeat with those downloaded from rockbox.org, but it's still not booting past the rockbox splash screen |
03:47:36 | Dark_Apostrophe | I must've f*cked up at some point :) |
03:47:46 | linuxstb | Have you checked the disk for errors? |
03:47:55 | RaZorbacK | aliask: no enough argument |
03:47:56 | Dark_Apostrophe | how? |
03:48:12 | Dark_Apostrophe | oh crap |
03:48:17 | Dark_Apostrophe | dmesg's gone insane |
03:48:20 | linuxstb | fsck.vfat ? |
03:49:00 | RenHere | Dual Boot failed on Sansa E280 without 'R' both startup and USB cable attached - Text Boot Up screen appears for ~ 1 second then fades - I know have all info from this fading screen and need some help - New RB user here |
03:49:25 | RenHere | know= now |
03:49:27 | aliask | RaZorbacK: Try svn co −−revision=12345 |
03:50:47 | RaZorbacK | k |
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03:54:32 | RenHere | Sansa Dual Boot Problem newbie needs help locks up |
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03:55:51 | Dark_Apostrophe | Ok, is there a way to just format my entire Gigabeat F-20 and install a whole new, fresh copy of Rockbox? |
03:57:15 | kkurbjun | there's a tool from toshiba you should use if you formaat |
03:57:23 | Dark_Apostrophe | I don't use windows |
03:57:27 | Dark_Apostrophe | Does it run under wine? |
03:57:33 | kkurbjun | never tried |
03:57:53 | kkurbjun | the gigabeat has a special way that sector 0 is written |
03:57:53 | linuxstb | Dark_Apostrophe: Just backup GBSYSTEM, format, then restore it... |
03:58:12 | linuxstb | kkurbjun: Mine doesn't... |
03:58:19 | Dark_Apostrophe | But that contains an old version of Rockbox, does it not? |
03:58:27 | kkurbjun | did you replace the hard drive in the gigabeat? |
03:58:36 | linuxstb | Dark_Apostrophe: Not if you updated it today. |
03:58:38 | linuxstb | kkurbjun: Yes. |
03:58:48 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb: I did, but I'm not sure I did it correctly |
03:59:16 | kkurbjun | I had a heck of a time getting an apple formatted drive to work, I had to do a low level format, and then use the toshiba tool to get it in a format that the gigabeat would boot from |
03:59:30 | Dark_Apostrophe | Low level format? :p |
03:59:32 | Dark_Apostrophe | :o * |
03:59:42 | Dark_Apostrophe | Now there's a return to the 90s if ever there was one |
03:59:47 | linuxstb | kkurbjun: I just partitioned it with a single FAT32 partition, formatted it, copied GBSYSTEM, and was good to go. |
03:59:53 | kkurbjun | hmm |
04:00 |
04:00:05 | linuxstb | I never tried the original firmware on it though, just Rockbox. |
04:00:19 | kkurbjun | do you know which version of the OF you have on the gigabeat? |
04:00:22 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb: Can I just use a brand new GBSYSTEM folder? |
04:00:30 | Dark_Apostrophe | kkurbjun: OF? |
04:00:49 | linuxstb | kkurbjun: Sorry, no. It's a F20 if that helps (but now an F80). |
04:01:15 | kkurbjun | how'd you fit an 80 gig HD in an F20? Did you replace the back? |
04:01:22 | kkurbjun | Original Firmware |
04:01:30 | linuxstb | Yes, it has the back from an F40 |
04:01:41 | Dark_Apostrophe | kkurbjun: I don't have the OF installed |
04:01:57 | kkurbjun | The OF is still used to boot rockbox |
04:01:59 | Dark_Apostrophe | kkurbjun: I bought it off eBay and it came with rockbox already on, but wouldn't boot past the rockbox splash screen |
04:02:05 | Dark_Apostrophe | oh |
04:02:07 | kkurbjun | at least the flash portion of it |
04:02:16 | Dark_Apostrophe | Well, I just got it today - I hardly know anything ;) |
04:02:27 | kkurbjun | :) |
04:02:56 | Dark_Apostrophe | So... now... what do I do? Please give me a step by step guide, other wise, I'm sure to f*ck up. :) |
04:03:10 | Dark_Apostrophe | I tried following the wiki, but the gigabeat still won't boot |
04:03:15 | kkurbjun | well, you might be fine formatting the hardrive normally |
04:03:31 | kkurbjun | from what linuxstb is saying it could be ok |
04:03:46 | kkurbjun | and I was replacing with a used apple formatted harddrive |
04:04:08 | kkurbjun | do you have a tool to check for bad sectors on the drive? |
04:04:11 | Dark_Apostrophe | Apple - what an insult to such a fine fruit |
04:04:20 | Dark_Apostrophe | kkurbjun: dmesg? |
04:04:29 | XavierGr | linuxstb: do you have any idea why the code in rtc_pcf50605 wasn't imported on rtc_pcf50606, it works like a charm |
04:04:29 | Dark_Apostrophe | scsi 4:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device |
04:04:29 | Dark_Apostrophe | FAT: Directory bread(block 526) failed |
04:04:34 | Dark_Apostrophe | dmesg is full of those |
04:04:37 | kkurbjun | hmm |
04:04:59 | kkurbjun | sounds like the drive might be failing |
04:05:04 | linuxstb | XavierGr: I think simply because preglow (who did the 50605 code) doesn't own a H300, and you're the first person to try |
04:05:12 | joecool | hit it on the desk a few times |
04:05:21 | Dark_Apostrophe | kkurbjun: Brilliant - I bought a b0rked drive. |
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04:05:38 | kkurbjun | well, try formatting it first |
04:05:43 | XavierGr | anyway I uploaded the patch to enable the alarm for H300, task 7814 if nayone is interested to commit it |
04:05:54 | kkurbjun | if you have trouble its possible to fix the format |
04:06:15 | kkurbjun | i don't remember all the steps, but I'm sure they are in a log somewhere on rockbox.org |
04:06:17 | Dark_Apostrophe | kkurbjun: Ok, mkfs.vfat? |
04:06:20 | XavierGr | linuxstb: also, do you have any idea why the alarm clock (on all targets) don't have date accuracy (like years, months) and only hours and minutes? |
04:06:56 | XavierGr | at least the pcf rtc can be triggered with an alarm set on a different month or year but currently the code will not permit it. |
04:07:01 | kkurbjun | seems right, I never did a fat format in linux |
04:07:08 | kkurbjun | or unix/ a derivative |
04:07:22 | linuxstb | XavierGr: No... Maybe the Archos devices only support hours/mins, so that's all the UI allows you to set, and preglow didn't want more. |
04:07:41 | psycho_maniac | anybody ever seen MikhailTkach from the wiki on here? |
04:07:55 | linuxstb | yes |
04:08:14 | psycho_maniac | what is his irc nick? |
04:08:23 | linuxstb | Same as his wiki name I think |
04:08:41 | XavierGr | linuxstb: I am writing a patch to unify the alarm screen with the time/date screen. It will vanish the alarm_screen.c file (maybe reduce the bin size too) and enable more accuracy on setting the alarm |
04:09:03 | XavierGr | although again the drivers will have to change to set the alarm on months, years etc |
04:09:30 | kkurbjun | Dark_Apostrophe, which size gigabeat do you have? |
04:09:36 | Dark_Apostrophe | 20g |
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04:10:26 | kkurbjun | if you have to replace the drive the mk3006gal is a good one to do that with |
04:10:38 | kkurbjun | it's lower power than the mk2004 and you get more space |
04:11:07 | kkurbjun | the gigabeat might have the mk2004 though.. |
04:11:12 | kkurbjun | I mean 2006 |
04:11:29 | Dark_Apostrophe | It says mk2006gal on mine |
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04:12:00 | Dark_Apostrophe | Ok, formatted it now. |
04:12:03 | Dark_Apostrophe | kkurbjun: Next step? |
04:12:03 | kkurbjun | ahh, then it's the same power consumption as the 3006 |
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04:12:16 | kkurbjun | you need to copy the GBSYSTEM folder on |
04:12:36 | Dark_Apostrophe | The original or a new one? |
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04:12:52 | kkurbjun | the original one |
04:13:48 | kkurbjun | then put in the FWIMG we give on rockbox.org |
04:13:58 | kkurbjun | FWIMG01.DAT that is |
04:14:19 | kkurbjun | jhMikeS, are you around? |
04:14:48 | kkurbjun | that commit I did on the M:Robe included some stuff for the gigabeat |
04:15:01 | Dark_Apostrophe | kkurbjun: k |
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04:15:34 | kkurbjun | and I was wondering if you still have a setup to measure power - there's a bit that's changed that /may/ reduce the power |
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04:16:03 | kkurbjun | ok, extract rockbox.zip or whatever it's named to the player |
04:16:30 | ddalton | RaZorbacK: Why don't you update to the latest rev? |
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04:17:12 | RaZorbacK | ddalton: cause i had a mail from stéphane who told me that is patch was broken by the 14750 |
04:17:20 | RaZorbacK | stephane |
04:17:26 | kkurbjun | jhMikeS, it requires that a new bootloader is built though before any difference should be seen |
04:17:35 | RaZorbacK | but anyway, i still have the 14740 |
04:17:48 | kkurbjun | Dark_Apostrophe, once you have that extracted, try booting the player |
04:17:51 | RaZorbacK | and the patch seems to have been applied successfully |
04:17:55 | ddalton | do you want a combined patch he sent me that should work on the latest rev? |
04:18:10 | Dark_Apostrophe | kkurbjun: What about .rockbox? |
04:18:19 | RaZorbacK | ddalton: thanks. He have sent it to me today |
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04:18:46 | kkurbjun | that should be in the rockbox.zip archive |
04:18:57 | Dark_Apostrophe | kkurbjun: I mean, do I copy that in too? |
04:19:08 | kkurbjun | yeah, everything in rockbox.zip |
04:19:13 | RaZorbacK | i have to translate and test. got to apply your learning now :) |
04:19:33 | jhMikeS | kkurnjun: regarding what? what did I say about bootloaders? |
04:20:01 | Dark_Apostrophe | kkurbjun: And I stick it into the root directory of the gigabeat? |
04:20:18 | kkurbjun | yep |
04:20:20 | Dark_Apostrophe | k |
04:20:43 | kkurbjun | jhMikeS, there is some new s3c... initialization code in SVN now |
04:21:10 | jhMikeS | I'm remeber now about that. I just wondered why an m:robe commit came with gigabeat code. |
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04:21:42 | kkurbjun | and there's a bit that I set that should save power on the gigabeats, I am pretty sure that it does, but I havn't done any power measurements |
04:21:43 | jhMikeS | what does it do for it anyway? |
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04:21:56 | jhMikeS | ah, meter time. :P |
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04:22:11 | kkurbjun | It seems like I get better battery life, but I may just be imagining things :) |
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04:22:46 | ddalton | hey sdoyon |
04:22:54 | jhMikeS | I still haven't any real clue why it boots with high current before playing pcm. just too weird. |
04:23:08 | sdoyon | hi |
04:23:11 | jhMikeS | maybe that's gone now. who knows. |
04:23:22 | ddalton | Your stephane right? |
04:23:25 | kkurbjun | yeah, I don't think my setting will effect that particular issue |
04:23:26 | RaZorbacK | hi sdoyon |
04:24:06 | kkurbjun | the bit is in the BANKSIZE register if your interested |
04:24:12 | ddalton | If you are I am about to try out your patches |
04:24:13 | sdoyon | Yes, I'm Stephane. |
04:24:25 | ddalton | thought so |
04:25:03 | kkurbjun | a bit that was marked reserved in the docs was set to 1, and the one that's supposed to suspend the clock to the ram when your not accessing it was set to 0 |
04:25:41 | kkurbjun | Dark_Apostrophe, any luck? |
04:25:59 | Dark_Apostrophe | Working on it |
04:26:03 | Dark_Apostrophe | Sorry, newb. :) |
04:26:11 | kkurbjun | no worries |
04:26:14 | XavierGr | let's see if my ISP will let me ask this |
04:26:16 | XavierGr | kkurbjun: any progress flashing Gigabeat? |
04:26:20 | ddalton | sdoyon: Did you get the spelling patch working? The one that will voice all the chars in the rename screen? |
04:26:25 | ddalton | and other screens like that |
04:26:33 | kkurbjun | XavierGR, I got distracted with a new port :) |
04:26:48 | XavierGr | yeah and I hear it is a good one too :P |
04:27:19 | sdoyon | ddalton: Yes, it should be working. |
04:27:32 | ddalton | ok good im going to try it |
04:27:33 | RaZorbacK | sdoyon: your patch seems to have been applied just have to test now |
04:27:33 | kkurbjun | :), it should be interesting adding a completely new way of interacting with the player |
04:27:44 | ddalton | but cygwin takes for ever to build |
04:27:47 | ddalton | rockbox |
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04:29:55 | XavierGr | we need someone to flash the H300 too, booting is so much slower than the H100 :( |
04:30:22 | linuxstb | XavierGr: Go, go, go... |
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04:30:57 | Kirby | Hi |
04:31:11 | Dark_Apostrophe | kkurbjun: YES |
04:31:15 | Dark_Apostrophe | kkurbjun: It seems to have booted :D |
04:31:21 | XavierGr | yeah like I could.... I will brick it on the first test. And I don't have a BDM wiggler |
04:31:46 | XavierGr | though Slasheri did it without one too, but he knew what he was doing |
04:31:49 | Dark_Apostrophe | I have no idea how to handle the touchpad though :/ |
04:32:07 | Doomed_ | i would love H300 flashed |
04:32:14 | jhMikeS | kkurbjun: wouldn't be the first time I saw reserved bits needing to be 1. the sanyo tuner requires it but that fact is in the docs. the ram thing...hmm...so just a new bl? |
04:32:27 | linuxstb | XavierGr: I think he did brick his h140 eventually though (LinusN recovered it)... |
04:32:38 | kkurbjun | Dark_Apostrophe, great to hear |
04:32:43 | kkurbjun | it booting that is |
04:33:02 | Dark_Apostrophe | Yeah |
04:33:04 | Dark_Apostrophe | I see the menu |
04:33:08 | Kirby | So when is Rockbox coming out for the iPod "Classic"? |
04:33:09 | Dark_Apostrophe | No idea how to use the touchpad though |
04:33:12 | kkurbjun | jhMikeS, yeah, just a new bootloader |
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04:33:23 | kkurbjun | it works fine without the bit set |
04:33:30 | kkurbjun | the reserved bit that is |
04:33:37 | kkurbjun | I've been using it that way for a while now |
04:33:47 | XavierGr | linuxstb: yes but he managed that after he finished the flashing code. (or right before he released the bootloader) |
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04:34:43 | ddalton | sdoyon: Can I test your patches with p7814 and p7682? |
04:34:46 | kkurbjun | I would have bricked the gigabeat many times over without a JTAG connector |
04:34:46 | XavierGr | well it is beyond my mind, today was the first time I fiddled with a datasheet and drivers |
04:34:53 | XavierGr | I must say it was very interesting and fun |
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04:38:53 | sdoyon | ddalton: possibly. |
04:39:04 | ddalton | Kirby: When a port is started and someone works on it |
04:39:11 | * | ddalton goes for lunch |
04:39:27 | Kirby | I hope that's soon |
04:39:58 | sdoyon | ddalton: r14750 broke playing-time however, so try with r14749. Fix is trivial, I'll upload it shortly. |
04:42:40 | RenHere | Sansa E280 can not dual boot back to OF screen fades out |
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04:56:36 | Dark_Apostrophe | kkurbjun: Mind helping me a little bit more? |
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04:56:48 | kkurbjun | what's the problem? |
04:57:09 | Dark_Apostrophe | kkurbjun: I can't figure out how to use the controls :p |
04:57:14 | ddalton | sdoyon: around? |
04:57:23 | sdoyon | ddalton: yes |
04:57:28 | kkurbjun | how do you mean? |
04:57:55 | Dark_Apostrophe | I mean, whatever direction I push on the touchpad, it seems to go into some directory or open some file or whatnot |
04:58:00 | Dark_Apostrophe | I just can't figure out how to work it |
04:58:03 | ddalton | sdoyon: for your playing time patch was there a compile error? Or is it another patch I have here? |
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04:58:21 | ddalton | but yours is the only one that touches onplay.c |
04:58:33 | sdoyon | ddalton: compile error. get_metadata lost its last arg. |
04:58:44 | kkurbjun | did you read this section of the manual: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-gigabeatf/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-170003 ? |
04:58:47 | ddalton | sdoyon: what should I do? |
04:58:51 | kkurbjun | on the baisc controls |
04:59:14 | Dark_Apostrophe | No, I did not |
04:59:15 | Dark_Apostrophe | thanks |
05:00 |
05:00:20 | kkurbjun | feel free to ask if you have questions though |
05:00:23 | ddalton | sdoyon? |
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05:01:21 | sdoyon | ddalton: edit onplay.c, search for get_metadata(, and delete the last parameter ", false". |
05:01:38 | ddalton | yep found it line 481 so remove false? |
05:01:58 | ddalton | and the , |
05:02:08 | sdoyon | ddalton: that's all. |
05:02:57 | ddalton | sdoyon: Did that I am now compiling |
05:03:36 | ToHellWithGA | do yall know how i could use rockbox to play tracker music? s3m, mod, stuff like that |
05:03:39 | ddalton | sdoyon: Also is there a way to tell if the voice is still talking? FS #7682 requires that for a syncsplash screen. |
05:04:01 | tumu | ToHellWithGA, yes, i'm in middle of porting such functionality to rockbox |
05:04:06 | ddalton | because if you have a slow voice it will just read the menu option and not finish reading the splash message |
05:04:25 | ddalton | because it is for an exit from a screen |
05:05:19 | ToHellWithGA | tumu: hero. if you need anybody to test on ipod video you could PM or email me |
05:06:03 | sdoyon | ddalton: It won't stop talking just because the splash goes away. Voicing for splashes forces enqueuing of the next utterance so shouldn't be interrupted either. |
05:06:25 | ddalton | does it? can you check that patch? LinusN said it did |
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05:06:47 | ddalton | sdoyon: Also have you tested the talking plugins patch? |
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05:07:07 | tumu | ToHellWithGA, have to see such when it is in more useable state |
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05:08:01 | sdoyon | ddalton: rep lugins: not yet, no time. |
05:08:25 | ddalton | sdoyon: ok then. |
05:10:04 | ddalton | sdoyon: Also regarding your track lock patch how do I use that? Should there be a setting in the wps context menu? |
05:11:14 | psycho_maniac | has anybody ran the infoNES plugin at all. just wondering how well it works |
05:12:13 | psycho_maniac | im thinking about compiling it in my build just to see how it works and to test it. |
05:12:27 | sdoyon | ddalton: re alarm patch: OK I see. |
05:13:08 | ddalton | sdoyon: Is it different? |
05:13:38 | sdoyon | ddalton: Just after talk_value(alarm_time_to_go, UNIT_MIN, true); simply call talk_force_enqueue_next();. And get rid of your two cases for the spash duration. |
05:13:50 | kkurbjun | jhMikeS: did you happen to see any difference with the new bootloader? |
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05:15:00 | sdoyon | ddalton: re tracklock: the setting is under playback, fast forward and and rewind. |
05:15:19 | ddalton | ok |
05:16:15 | sdoyon | ddalton: that's not very convenient of course, so if you use it much you'll want to make yourself a pair of .cfg for each setting and put it in a more accessible place. |
05:16:18 | ddalton | sdoyon: so its talk_force_enqueue_next () ? |
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05:17:41 | ddalton | sdoyon: what's the setting called? |
05:17:49 | psycho_maniac | how do i know what -p? a patch is? |
05:18:11 | ddalton | you can look at the patch file or just keep guessing up to 5 |
05:18:17 | ddalton | starting at 0 |
05:18:19 | psycho_maniac | where do i look in the file? |
05:18:50 | sdoyon | ddalton: re alarm: yes, that's a function in talk.c. |
05:19:08 | ddalton | where it has the path to the file it is going to edit. For example index: apps/lang/english.lang I think it looks something like that |
05:19:12 | aliask | psycho_maniac: It'll say "Index: ....". The -p option removes levels from it, eg -p1 would turn /path/to/files into /to/files |
05:19:29 | ddalton | so from your source tree that would be p0 |
05:19:44 | ddalton | only if you have just checked out the trunk |
05:20:00 | psycho_maniac | so this is what im looking for? "Index: apps/settings.c" |
05:20:10 | aliask | Yes, that's a -p0 patch |
05:20:25 | ddalton | yep so from your source tree that would be p0 (the root) |
05:20:37 | ddalton | and did you just check out the trunk? |
05:20:38 | sdoyon | ddalton: re tracklock: the setting is now "Study mode", and the secondary setting "Study Increment". |
05:20:55 | ddalton | sdoyon: Ok I am about to test it |
05:21:10 | ddalton | just copying my build |
05:21:15 | ddalton | actually extracting |
05:21:32 | sdoyon | Anyone can explain what the deal is with the alarm wakeup function, on Sansa and/or X5? The DeviceChart wiki page says the hardware supports it... |
05:21:33 | ddalton | o wait I need to build my voice file |
05:22:01 | sdoyon | ddalton: You need to remake your voice file of course. |
05:22:02 | ddalton | sdoyon: What do you mean |
05:22:44 | RaZorbacK | building also the voice file :) |
05:22:53 | ddalton | sdoyon: what were you saying about the alarm? |
05:22:56 | sdoyon | ddalton: what do I mean what? :-) |
05:23:03 | RaZorbacK | hours to wait again thanks to cygwin |
05:23:39 | ddalton | sdoyon: Well you said something about the wakeup alarm |
05:24:10 | psycho_maniac | anybody running the piezo patch? |
05:24:43 | sdoyon | ddalton: That wiki page says Sansa and X5 have the ability to turnon at a preset time, so they should be able to support an alarm feature, yet that's apparently not in the code. |
05:25:19 | ddalton | sdoyon: a task has just been open re alarm for h300 maybe it can be ported to x5. |
05:25:51 | RaZorbacK | good new |
05:25:54 | RaZorbacK | news |
05:25:56 | ddalton | It didn't look that hard |
05:26:27 | ddalton | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7814 |
05:26:37 | ddalton | that is the alarm thing I was talking about |
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05:27:33 | psycho_maniac | when i do the revert command. what does it actually do? revert to previous or just revert to normal ? |
05:29:37 | jhMikeS | kkurbjun: kinda busy here. I'll do the measuring soon enough. |
05:30:23 | kkurbjun | no worries, sorry to be pushy |
05:30:51 | saratoga | when creating a WPS, how do I know what the current working line is for an entry? |
05:31:04 | saratoga | for instance, this theme just says "%al %s%ac%?ia<%ia|Artist?>%ar " |
05:31:10 | saratoga | how do I know where that will get drawn |
05:31:22 | kkurbjun | jhMikeS, do you know where the crt0 files are linked to.. for example how does the apple builds choose crt0-pp.s? |
05:31:40 | kkurbjun | how do |
05:32:23 | kkurbjun | Dark_Apostrophe: did those directions help you out? |
05:32:36 | Dark_Apostrophe | Yes...sorta got it figured out |
05:32:48 | Dark_Apostrophe | Still can't get videos to play, but music seems to work |
05:33:05 | daurn|laptop | saratoga: first line |
05:33:20 | kkurbjun | you need to have video's in a particular format and properly sized |
05:33:34 | kkurbjun | (I think the sizing is required) |
05:33:54 | kkurbjun | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
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05:34:24 | aliask | kkurbjun: They get linked in with boot.lds |
05:34:48 | saratoga | daurn|laptop: how do I advance a line ? |
05:34:58 | kkurbjun | aliask, :) , thanks I don't know how I missed that |
05:35:15 | psycho_maniac | its so nice when you can compile your own build |
05:35:21 | aliask | :) |
05:35:41 | * | aliask hopes firefox doesn't die |
05:35:47 | ddalton | sdoyon: Do you think p6138 could be committed? |
05:36:30 | daurn|laptop | saratoga: read the wiki |
05:37:23 | saratoga | daurn|laptop: I am . . . |
05:38:34 | sdoyon | Ah! I think I got rid of the voice stuttering that was bothering me. |
05:40:00 | ddalton | I got 16: 42 for battery bench on my h300 |
05:41:56 | ddalton | sdoyon: I am not sure if you saw but I wrote a comment on p7653 about making voicebox say file extensions. So don't worry about my other comments |
05:42:10 | ddalton | because it now voices file extensions. |
05:44:36 | psycho_maniac | in case anybody is listening the piezo patch does not work on the ipod 80gig. well not on mine |
05:47:28 | Dark_Apostrophe | Whenever I try to do something, it says: Batt.Bench is currently running. Press OFF to cancel the test. Anything else will resume. |
05:47:32 | Dark_Apostrophe | Which button is off? |
05:48:26 | ddalton | what player |
05:48:34 | Dark_Apostrophe | gigabeat f20 |
05:48:44 | ddalton | sdoyon: Your patches are working good here. I just need to fix my one |
05:49:53 | ddalton | try stop or however you stop playback |
05:50:42 | sdoyon | Dark_Apostrophe: it's POWER. |
05:50:56 | Dark_Apostrophe | sdoyon: ok |
05:51:24 | sdoyon | ddalton: what about that quickscreen? |
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05:51:57 | stevenm | Hello. Debugging the Sim MIDI memory corruption bug. Again. |
05:52:14 | stevenm | Fixed this bugger before but couldn't commit... now all is lost, along with GDB knowledge. |
05:52:42 | stevenm | What is that GDB command that tells it to break and scream at you whenever a certain variable changes value? I thought it was a watchpoint, but not working here... |
05:53:20 | ddalton | sdoyon: that's working great as well |
05:54:55 | sdoyon | ddalton: Ah! Good then. |
05:56:40 | Dark_Apostrophe | sdoyon: Thanks :D |
05:56:52 | ddalton | sdoyon: Do you think p6138 should be committed? |
05:57:08 | ddalton | I think it is simple but very useful |
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05:58:54 | sdoyon | ddalton: well the battery estimated time it gives me is quite bogus. I like having the disk space spoken. No point pushing this version if I'm going to make the info screen into a list though. |
05:59:17 | RaZorbacK | wow my rockbox rocks now ! ... in english :) |
05:59:45 | sdoyon | At large: would it make a difference if the Rockbox Info screen was a list? For blind users, we could skip down to the info we want tohear, rather than wait for the voice to get there. |
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06:00:22 | RaZorbacK | yes it is a good idea. many infos to hear at the same time |
06:00:27 | RaZorbacK | too many |
06:00:32 | ddalton | sdoyon: I wanted to do this but didn't even know where to start apart from look in main_menu.c |
06:01:43 | ddalton | RaZorbacK: what player do you have? |
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06:01:55 | RaZorbacK | i've tried my patched build on a sansa |
06:01:57 | psycho_maniac | ran the scroll patch on a nano. works perfectly |
06:01:59 | RaZorbacK | e280 |
06:02:01 | DMJC | outside of lack of info, is there anything stopping rockbox from ipod classic? |
06:02:02 | sdoyon | RaZorbacK: sure but for sighted users, would that be good or bad, or make no difference? |
06:02:39 | sdoyon | And it's still a long wway to go just ot check the time... |
06:02:44 | kkurbjun | DMJC, that's a pretty big thing to neglect |
06:02:47 | ddalton | RaZorbacK: Do you want me to see if I can port the wakeup alarm to e200? |
06:02:56 | RaZorbacK | sdoyon: i don't think it will be bad, but maybe a sighted user could answer? |
06:03:14 | RaZorbacK | ddalton: why not! |
06:03:15 | alienbiker99 | god the sansas firmware is so annoying...usbstack will be amazing |
06:03:35 | ddalton | ok I will give it a shot if i get time |
06:03:54 | RaZorbacK | now got to start translating the whole stuff in french, everything is messed up obviously |
06:04:14 | RaZorbacK | k ddalton, when you have time of course |
06:04:50 | RaZorbacK | ALLIEN: your definetely right |
06:04:53 | RaZorbacK | :) |
06:04:59 | RaZorbacK | usb is a problem |
06:05:07 | * | ddalton knows why the alarm patch is voicing wrong information when exiting the wakeup screen |
06:05:21 | alienbiker99 | i hate waiting for the stupid refresh database to go away |
06:05:31 | RaZorbacK | :-) |
06:05:59 | ddalton | RaZorbacK: You are going to translate all of sdoyon's patches to french? |
06:06:08 | RaZorbacK | fortunately there're just 8 gig on mine lol |
06:06:10 | ddalton | (The lang entries) |
06:06:26 | RaZorbacK | can't imagine the same thing on my 30 gb player :) |
06:06:43 | RaZorbacK | ddalto: yes i'll try |
06:06:46 | RaZorbacK | ddalton |
06:07:08 | ddalton | ok I guess it will take a while :-) |
06:07:22 | RaZorbacK | yes i guess too |
06:07:35 | ddalton | also do you remember how to do it? Like I showed you last time? And you will need to add new entries |
06:07:35 | RaZorbacK | it's tricky, many lines :( |
06:07:52 | ddalton | of course because there have been new ones added to english.lang |
06:08:03 | RaZorbacK | new...... what ??? !! :) |
06:08:08 | RaZorbacK | argg |
06:08:09 | ddalton | lang entries |
06:08:16 | sdoyon | Anyone around familiar with the Sansa button hardware? |
06:08:45 | RaZorbacK | going to try to do that |
06:11:26 | alienbiker99 | sdoyon which sansa |
06:11:46 | RaZorbacK | ddalton: i just have to translate between the <voice> ... </voice> string right? |
06:12:12 | sdoyon | alienbiker99: E200 |
06:12:22 | RenHere | Need help with Sansa E280 serious problem with the dualboot dead in the water |
06:12:30 | sdoyon | alienbiker99: I'd like to know which button combinations are recognized. |
06:13:23 | stevenm | Aaaaargh caught ya! If I can't commit or forget, let it stay in the logs forever. In guspat.c, line 33: only 32 waveforms for MIDI is waaaay not enough. While there probably won't be over 32 patches, each patch can have multiple waveforms. Piano alone has like, 10. |
06:13:24 | alienbiker99 | sorry i don't know, i was just trying to clear it up. |
06:13:55 | ddalton | sdoyon: Do you know about hta ? |
06:14:23 | sdoyon | ddalton hta? No what's that? |
06:14:31 | stevenm | and writes to waveforms past this buffer wipes out parts of the voice structure (on the sim, anyway) and causes Badness. It's playing nicely now, though.. but need a more thorough fix, and a commit |
06:15:11 | saratoga | if anyone is interested, my port of the cabbie entry in the default theme thread to the ipod video: |
06:15:13 | saratoga | http://www.duke.edu/~mgg6/rockbox/defaulttheme/cabbie-ipodvideo.zip |
06:15:21 | ddalton | sdoyon hta is what voicebox on windows is written in. I think it is a bit of html and vb script. I don't know what it stands for. |
06:15:28 | ddalton | though |
06:16:00 | psycho_maniac | saratoga: thank you |
06:16:40 | RaZorbacK | ddalton, sdoyon: nothing is needed to be translated except in the english.lang sections? |
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06:17:38 | ddalton | RaZorbacK: If new strings have been added at the end of the file just copy them and rename them. Don't change the id: part from english to french because then it won't work |
06:18:18 | sdoyon | RaZorbacK: not sure what you mean there... |
06:18:38 | RaZorbacK | not sure too ... :) |
06:18:44 | ddalton | then you do the same as you did with my patch with strings needing the voice filled in just fill in the voice string in the french lang file |
06:18:58 | RaZorbacK | OK |
06:19:19 | ddalton | But combined.patch might come in handy because you can then see exactly what was added because there is a lot more strings |
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06:20:27 | ddalton | but you do realise there are a lot more strings with sdoyon's patches than my alarm one. That only had about 4 strings |
06:20:32 | ddalton | my one |
06:21:03 | ddalton | and I am guessing sdoyon's patches would have over 450 strings that were added or voice strings filled in |
06:21:08 | RaZorbacK | ddalton: i realize... it's really big. |
06:21:11 | ddalton | sdoyon: Is that sound right? |
06:21:18 | RaZorbacK | ho no ... |
06:21:22 | sdoyon | RaZorbacK: A I the only one who isn't always entirely sure that my player ha been turned off properly? Say I've been interrupted and had to yank my headphones off... |
06:21:39 | ddalton | yes well his combined patch is over 100 kb and mine was about 4. A big difference :-) |
06:21:43 | psycho_maniac | saratogaA: could you make a theme file? thats all that zip is missing really |
06:22:05 | ddalton | 50 I mean not 450 |
06:22:16 | RaZorbacK | Laughing Out Loud |
06:22:18 | psycho_maniac | for the cabbie theme for the ipods |
06:22:28 | RaZorbacK | ddalton: thank you for the correction :) |
06:22:36 | RaZorbacK | i feel better |
06:22:47 | ddalton | yes I am sure that would have been a shock :-) |
06:23:28 | RaZorbacK | so, let's have an example before going in trouble :) |
06:23:30 | sdoyon | RaZorbacK ddalton: Let's see... 74 new IDs. but a lot of those are for spelling funky chars. |
06:24:10 | RaZorbacK | funky chars? lol what are the funky chars? my english is kinda bad :) |
06:24:42 | RaZorbacK | OK for funky but ... |
06:24:54 | ddalton | wow that's a lot |
06:25:20 | RaZorbacK | arrg... I might have tried one patch at once :) |
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06:25:44 | ddalton | sdoyon: Now hearing all the different chars in the rename screen and where ever else that screen is used is really good. Especially the edit line and the blank |
06:26:18 | sdoyon | RaZorbacK ddalton: like ;:,!@$%?&*[_=<{ |
06:26:33 | RaZorbacK | .... :( |
06:26:34 | nikosapi | hello, what's the 'select' button mapping for the ipod in the rockboxui simulator? |
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06:26:44 | ddalton | sdoyon: always been wondering this: Do you type all the new ids in by hand or copy and paste them and then rename them? |
06:26:50 | XavierGr | ddalton: is the set time/date screen voiced currently? |
06:27:13 | ddalton | XavierGr: under system/time? |
06:27:16 | XavierGr | yes |
06:27:22 | ddalton | yes it is |
06:27:40 | ddalton | for english.lang <XavierGr> |
06:27:45 | XavierGr | nice, I have a local patch that unifies alarm screen with time/date screen |
06:27:54 | ddalton | sdoyon I mean |
06:28:08 | ddalton | XavierGr: do you use voice? |
06:28:11 | XavierGr | so alarm_menu.c will eventually be removed if I get this right |
06:28:31 | XavierGr | ddalton: I used it only once or twice to see how it is |
06:28:51 | ddalton | XavierGr: did you open the alarm thing for the h300? 7814 |
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06:29:43 | XavierGr | ddalton: yes |
06:30:10 | XavierGr | that is to enable the alarm on h300 |
06:30:21 | ddalton | well if you want you can use p7682 with it |
06:30:37 | sdoyon | ddalton: well usually copy an existing entry and modify it. |
06:30:38 | ddalton | it provides voice for the alarm wakeup (by me) |
06:30:47 | ddalton | so do I |
06:30:57 | XavierGr | ddalton yeah I noticed that |
06:31:39 | RaZorbacK | ddalton: but there're voices strings which seem not to have an ID associated. is it possible or a I wrong ? |
06:32:03 | XavierGr | what I am saying is that I am using another patch I made (not on flyspray) which gets rid of the current alarm screen and unifies it with the time/date screen (which is voiced) |
06:32:18 | sdoyon | RaZorbacK: possibly they're outside the diff context. |
06:32:20 | ddalton | now it first divides the alarm time to get the hours then it divides that number by 60 again to get minutes. So it is incorrect. It shouldn't change the value of the variable |
06:32:37 | ddalton | so to make it simple I should have done the calculation in the talk_value call |
06:33:22 | ddalton | each voice string has and id but it might not be filled in |
06:33:34 | ddalton | sdoyon is that correct? |
06:33:37 | sdoyon | RaZorbacK: diff doesn't handle the .lang files very well becuase of that. In fact sometimes patch doesn't have enough context and puts the changes in the wrong place. |
06:34:02 | sdoyon | RaZorbacK I can make you a diff of just english.lang with more context. Shall I do that? |
06:34:45 | RaZorbacK | sdoyon: if you have the time and if you think it could help me. sory, i'm really newbie in those stuff .... |
06:34:52 | ddalton | sdoyon: will quilt work on cygwin? Or does it depend on some linux library? |
06:34:56 | sdoyon | ddalton: No, they always must have an id:. |
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06:35:05 | ddalton | thought so |
06:35:41 | * | ddalton Waits for his build to compile |
06:36:25 | sdoyon | ddalton: Hmm I think it's written entirely in bash scripts. I imagine it should work. |
06:36:44 | ddalton | sdoyon: so I just type ./configure make make install to install? |
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06:37:24 | RaZorbacK | when i say with no id, i mean the recording stuff in the file. but dont know if it could help understanding what i mean |
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06:37:49 | RaZorbacK | for the id things, i think i could do the job but i'm lost with the others |
06:38:13 | ddalton | RaZorbacK: if you arrow up a few lines you should see id: otherwise your not in a lang file |
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06:39:12 | ddalton | ok so you first go through sdoyon's patch and fill in all the voice strings in the french lang file. |
06:39:33 | RaZorbacK | ddalton: i'm talking about stephane diff file... dunno how to explain ... |
06:39:56 | RaZorbacK | okay i'll do the IDs we'll see for the other stuff |
06:40:30 | ddalton | then you find where the new id strings start and you copy them and paste them at the bottom of your french lang file. Then you simpley change the voice string from english to french. That is where I am no help. I can't speak french :-) |
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06:41:11 | ddalton | remember that + means add a line and - means remove one |
06:41:40 | RaZorbacK | + id: VOICE_CHAR_SLASH: this, i can understand, but the strings before that, don't know how to put them :) |
06:42:46 | ddalton | sdoyon: can you talk french? |
06:43:21 | ddalton | that means a string has been added and you copy it from english.lang and then you change the voice part to french. But |
06:43:41 | ddalton | you don't change <voice> to french |
06:44:03 | ddalton | and that means it has been added as well a whole id string |
06:44:12 | RaZorbacK | yes ddalton it's ok for the + id: VOICE_CHAR_SLASH. but can you see the voice strings before that lines |
06:44:15 | sdoyon | ddalton: French is indeed my first language. |
06:44:16 | RaZorbacK | ? |
06:44:38 | RaZorbacK | i can't see any ID. just trying to understand :) |
06:44:54 | ddalton | I am working on the alarm not the patch can you tell me what they are (one of them) |
06:45:11 | ddalton | no id that means the voice string has been filled in |
06:45:23 | ddalton | since the id already exists |
06:45:43 | ddalton | needs to be filled in isn't currently |
06:46:23 | RaZorbacK | dDalton: OK... |
06:46:34 | ddalton | XavierGr: What should happen when the wakeup alarm is set on the h300? |
06:47:35 | ddalton | let us know if you have more questions |
06:47:40 | stevenm | Hey, can anyone here with SVN access please commit a one-liner for me real quick? |
06:48:04 | ddalton | sdoyon: Is it? You speak english very well |
06:48:09 | Soap_ | Take my wife...please. |
06:48:18 | Soap_ | (how is that for a one-liner?) |
06:48:23 | kkurbjun | stevenm, don't you have svn access? |
06:48:31 | ddalton | maybe you would be a better help to RaZorbacK since you can speak french and I can't |
06:48:32 | Soap_ | sorry - never again. |
06:48:37 | RaZorbacK | and, is there a special place to add the IDs in the .lang file or can I copy/paste/modify at the end of the lang file? |
06:48:45 | kkurbjun | I mean commit access |
06:48:47 | stevenm | kkurbjun, I had CVS access, but I don't think I ever got SVN. It would be great if I did, though... |
06:49:03 | kkurbjun | you should email bagder |
06:49:03 | ddalton | no all new lang entries must go at the end of the lang file |
06:49:12 | stevenm | kkurbjun, I must have been gone when the switch happened, so I never got an SVN pass |
06:49:32 | RaZorbacK | ddalton: yes, that what I was asking for |
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06:49:35 | RaZorbacK | thx |
06:49:36 | ddalton | so ones with id: but if you just apply the patch and then you copy the new lang entries from english.lang you won't need to remove the + signs |
06:49:43 | kkurbjun | I can commit for you in the meantime, but like I said, all you have to do is ask bagder |
06:49:54 | stevenm | kkurbjun, all right, thanks. |
06:49:57 | sdoyon | RaZorbacK: you don't see the ids because diff shows you only the parts that were modified, and the ids are far enough from the voice entries that they are not included in the context. I'll make you a patch with more context. |
06:50:00 | kkurbjun | as far as I know that is |
06:50:21 | ddalton | kkurbjun: could I get svn access? |
06:50:53 | ddalton | sdoyon: How can you do that? |
06:50:56 | RaZorbacK | sdoyon: thanks. |
06:51:06 | stevenm | kkurbjun, I need the array size in apps/plugins/midi/guspat.c:33 changed from 32 to 256 |
06:51:11 | RaZorbacK | i'm really lost with those damn stuff :) |
06:51:15 | kkurbjun | ddalton, did you have cvs access before? |
06:51:24 | ddalton | no |
06:51:54 | stevenm | kkurbjun, with comment of something like "fix midi patch loader corrupting memory" |
06:52:26 | kkurbjun | I don't handle who gets an offer, I just knew that stevenm had it before because of his midi work. |
06:52:43 | ddalton | Bagder: there? |
06:53:14 | RaZorbacK | but if i do all this work, I do hope it won't be lost in updating the source ... |
06:53:34 | RaZorbacK | if so, i prefer improving my english ... |
06:53:36 | ddalton | first create a diff |
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06:53:47 | ddalton | so you never lose your changes you just apply the patch |
06:54:00 | kkurbjun | ddalton, you can't just ask for because you want it, have you been contributing patches? |
06:54:17 | ddalton | I have written some and a few got committed |
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06:55:05 | kkurbjun | ahh, gotcha |
06:56:21 | kkurbjun | stevenm, haha, I don't know if that commit got a message, I pasted the wrong thing in the window and it happened to have a newline in it |
06:56:48 | stevenm | kkurbjun, well, as long as it made its way in... thanks! |
06:56:54 | kkurbjun | no problem |
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06:57:45 | stevenm | someone optimized the heck out of that code... only the waveform table wasn't big enough, so the loader wrote stuff over other things in iram... which may explain a lot |
06:59:07 | kkurbjun | I've had some part in the midi work, but so have a few other people, don't know which section was changed by who anymore |
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06:59:25 | XavierGr | ddalton: it should give a splash saying "Waking up in x hours y minutes" |
06:59:35 | stevenm | kkurbjun, well, whoever did it, did an amazing job. I can't believe it does 44100 in near realtime |
06:59:48 | stevenm | the original had about half that speed |
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07:00:13 | sdoyon | RaZorbacK: it should be in your mailbox. |
07:00:33 | RaZorbacK | sdoyon, thanks |
07:00:42 | stevenm | i'm thinking about reusing some of the synth/patch code to write a little drum machine/sequencer plugin for making beats, etc |
07:01:01 | stevenm | I'm no musician but at least it would be fun to play with |
07:01:07 | sdoyon | RaZorbacK: That being said, I don't know if translating all this is such a good idea. They have yet to be committed, things will surely change, you'll have to manage updates... |
07:01:30 | kkurbjun | looks like linusn did the optimizations you were looking at |
07:01:48 | stevenm | aah ok |
07:02:29 | RaZorbacK | luck??? yes, i guess i need it :) |
07:02:36 | sdoyon | Well, past my bed time. Good night. |
07:02:37 | ddalton | sdoyon: Won't a lot stay the same? And also couldn't you just split the translations up to get committed? |
07:02:37 | RaZorbacK | sdoyon: thx |
07:03:07 | RaZorbacK | bye |
07:03:10 | ddalton | Now ignoring Bagder -BOFHNet IRC Ignore- |
07:03:28 | kkurbjun | ddalton, he's probably asleap |
07:03:33 | ddalton | why does my irc say * You are now ignoring Bagder |
07:03:40 | RaZorbacK | Laughing Out Loud |
07:04:27 | stevenm | kkurbjun, with that structure in iram, i could probably go through and remove some of the unused fields in it, like tremolo, etc |
07:04:42 | sdoyon | ddalton: I don't mean committing his translations, I mean the patches he's translating. Just suppose we swap the order in which two of those are applied: then the ids are in a different order and he needs to swap them in his french.lang too. |
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07:05:02 | kkurbjun | what are the unused fileds there for? |
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07:05:12 | stevenm | i could shrink it by ~12 bytes |
07:05:28 | kkurbjun | per array entry? |
07:05:33 | stevenm | yep |
07:05:45 | kkurbjun | that's quite a bit for iram |
07:06:20 | stevenm | at least 6 bytes from vib/trem, the 'name' pointer, probably the tune/balance parameters as well.. I don't think they're used here |
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07:06:58 | RaZorbacK | sure, it's better with IDs |
07:07:09 | stevenm | lowFreq/highFreq are only used briefly by the loader to precompute another table, so it can be rewritten to keep them elsewhere |
07:08:15 | kkurbjun | If you make a patch I don't mind committing it |
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07:08:50 | stevenm | kkurbjun, I can sometime in the future, but right now i'm too beat to be coding. i'd probably screw it up |
07:09:00 | kkurbjun | :) |
07:09:06 | stevenm | soon will be sleeping off a week of compsci |
07:09:36 | SansaSandbagged | Looking for Snasa help with dualboot |
07:11:53 | kkurbjun | stevenm, a question was recently being asked aboutthe patchset that's suggested for rockbox |
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07:12:12 | kkurbjun | do you know what the license is of the patchset you provide? |
07:12:19 | kkurbjun | or who made it originally? |
07:12:34 | stevenm | kkurbjun, it is the patchset that comes with Timidity++ with a custom config file |
07:12:49 | stevenm | I'm pretty sure it is called eawpatches |
07:14:13 | ddalton | if you have a function that goes over two lines and the first line of the function is indent four spaces how far should the second line of the function be indented? |
07:14:17 | ddalton | function cal |
07:14:19 | ddalton | call |
07:14:25 | kkurbjun | so it's gpl also then? |
07:14:56 | stevenm | kkurbjun, almost positive that it is. just going to double check though |
07:15:46 | stevenm | kkurbjun, hmm... the package is present in Gentoo Linux, and the license just says 'as-is' |
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07:16:53 | kkurbjun | hmm |
07:17:06 | pmhaddad | so to install the fonts package, i can just unzip it to the root of the player correct? |
07:17:15 | pmhaddad | or does it have to placed somewhere specific? |
07:17:25 | ddalton | no in /.rockbox |
07:17:26 | pmhaddad | the manual and faqs don't indicate |
07:17:33 | pmhaddad | ok cool, thanks ddalton |
07:17:41 | ddalton | so the path to the fnt files should be: /.rockbox/fonts/ |
07:17:47 | pmhaddad | on the player |
07:17:58 | ddalton | yes .rockbox on the player. |
07:18:06 | pmhaddad | does the font package unzip to a fonts folder? |
07:18:15 | stevenm | kkurbjun, I'm going to re-download from the internet and check for a license file |
07:18:52 | stevenm | kkurbjun, even if they are not straight gpl, is licensing really a problem for Rockbox, given that the patches are an add-on? |
07:19:14 | ddalton | you might need to move the files so they are located at: /.rockbox/fonts |
07:19:28 | pmhaddad | ok cool, i should be able to handle it |
07:19:53 | aliask | stevenm: Yes, the license is still an issue in plugins, unfortunately |
07:20:08 | kkurbjun | yeah, but it's like a doom wad file though |
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07:20:31 | kkurbjun | you can use a non free wad file, it just can't be included withteh main dist of rockbox |
07:21:07 | kkurbjun | I don't think it's a big deal that it is/isn't gpl as long as it's free/semi free in some way |
07:21:15 | stevenm | kkurbjun, aliask, according to the readme, as far as the author knows, they are public domain. he said they are for non-commercial use and only one file is for strictly non-commercial use |
07:21:35 | aliask | Sounds good to me, but as kkurbjun says, it probably doesn't even matter |
07:21:51 | stevenm | (originally coming from old gravis ftp mirrors) |
07:22:12 | kkurbjun | stevenm, can you include that readme on the wiki for the midi player? |
07:22:15 | stevenm | I was hoping at some point someone could re-host the patchset on the rockbox site, in case I graduate and my university site goes away |
07:22:28 | stevenm | kkurbjun, I could, sure.. where exactly, though? |
07:23:11 | kkurbjun | here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMidiPlay |
07:24:06 | kkurbjun | If you can point to the original download too that can give a backup. |
07:24:27 | kkurbjun | I don't know what the policy is for hosting different license files.. |
07:24:46 | stevenm | kkurbjun, very well |
07:24:59 | stevenm | uh oh.. what IS my password ... ? :) |
07:25:05 | kkurbjun | :) |
07:25:22 | stevenm | what is my USER NAME ? |
07:26:59 | aliask | I don't think you're registered... |
07:27:01 | stevenm | kkurbjun, looks like I'm not on the wiki anymore, either |
07:27:10 | stevenm | I think it was re-done since then |
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07:27:54 | stevenm | anyway, if anyone is interested, the eawpatches copyright file is here: http://pastebin.com/m3b40ebe4 |
07:28:08 | kkurbjun | I'll put it in |
07:28:59 | stevenm | kkurbjun, thanks! |
07:29:12 | ddalton | RaZorbacK: around? |
07:31:09 | kkurbjun | hmm, doesn't look like I can attach files to that wiki page |
07:31:41 | kkurbjun | is a wiki admin around? |
07:31:44 | stevenm | kkurbjun, you could potentially just paste it on there as text |
07:32:01 | kkurbjun | yeah, I'll just do that for now |
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07:34:48 | stevenm | kkurbjun, thanks, that works. as for hosting, if my wam page ever has to be shut down, we can just post the custom config file and have people download the raw eawpatches and put the two together |
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07:39:20 | kkurbjun | how's it look?: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMidiPlay |
07:39:51 | stevenm | kkurbjun, that is good, i think |
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07:49:51 | aliask | How do I #include something into crt0.S? |
07:50:15 | kkurbjun | it's just an #include |
07:50:21 | kkurbjun | like what's done at the top |
07:50:29 | aliask | Well, I tried it and it didn't like it very much |
07:50:37 | aliask | Complained about C syntax |
07:50:58 | amiconn | Of course you can only #include stuff in .S files which the assembler understands |
07:51:20 | aliask | So how would I branch do a function stored in a c file? |
07:51:59 | aliask | At the moment I'm getting "target/arm/crt0.S:(.init.text+0x108): undefined reference to `memory_init'" - so it has trouble when linking |
07:52:03 | stevenm | anyways, although I have a hard time believing it, it is finally time for sleep |
07:52:07 | stevenm | good night everyone |
07:52:22 | amiconn | You have to declare that label in the .S file |
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07:53:22 | amiconn | Hmm, that doesn't seem to be necessary |
07:53:52 | aliask | It links fine if I build a bootloader, but not a normal build... odd |
07:54:31 | amiconn | Well, then memory_init isn't available when linking the normal build |
07:55:21 | aliask | The file is included in SOURCES and there's no #ifdef BOOTLOADER, am I missing anything else? |
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08:02:06 | amiconn | I don't know. |
08:03:13 | amiconn | I wonder why main rockbox should call memory_init though, unless the purpose of that memory_init is quite different from the other targets that have memory_init |
08:03:36 | aliask | Setting up TTBs etc? |
08:04:07 | amiconn | Setting up memory in general |
08:04:39 | amiconn | The bootloader has to set up memory, then loads main rockbox. If main rockbox sets up memory again, it would kill itself... |
08:05:15 | aliask | Hrm, I was just loading rockbox.gigabeats directly, I guess I can't do that? |
08:06:07 | kkurbjun | I thought rockbox was designed to run independent of the bootloader.. or rombox |
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08:07:10 | amiconn | If rockbox runs from rom, it can of course set up the ram without killing itself |
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08:08:06 | amiconn | But obviously you can't change the setup of the memory you're currently running from |
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08:08:29 | aliask | Ah, I see now. |
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08:09:27 | amiconn | That's e.g. the reason why the eprom type detection function in debug_menu.c is put in iram. If it would be in the normal .text section, and hence in rom, rockbox would crash when switching the eprom into command mode... |
08:09:42 | kkurbjun | mm, I see |
08:10:16 | amiconn | It would only be in rom for rombox of course (currently only possible for 3 targets - archos Player, Ondio SP, and iriver H1x0) |
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08:10:33 | kkurbjun | does the h100 have rombox? |
08:10:52 | amiconn | Yes, with an unofficial bootloader |
08:11:18 | * | amiconn doesn't dare to test that before Linus does and releases it |
08:11:43 | kkurbjun | what do you think of splitting all the crt0's up into their own targets? |
08:12:05 | amiconn | ? |
08:12:12 | amiconn | They already are split... |
08:12:28 | kkurbjun | not between different arm targets... or not all of them |
08:12:37 | kkurbjun | I just split out the m:robe one |
08:12:42 | kkurbjun | in my last commit |
08:12:46 | amiconn | I wouldn't split into single targets |
08:13:12 | kkurbjun | by chipset then? |
08:13:29 | amiconn | ...but it probably makes sense to split into chipsets / chipset families |
08:13:45 | amiconn | PP already has some extra code in crt0-pp.S |
08:13:58 | XavierGr | amiconn: many people have flashed their H120s with Slasheri's flashable bootloader without any failures... |
08:14:44 | XavierGr | or you mean that you need an md5checksum of the patched firmware file just to be sure? |
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08:16:52 | amiconn | I still won't do it before the bootloader goes official |
08:17:25 | aliask | So, how does the mr500i do it's memory stuff? Isn't it all running from ram? |
08:17:49 | kkurbjun | my thinking in splitting the m:robe one completely out for now was: it's the only device that's targeting the dm320, and if someone else starts targeting a dm320 also I don't want to deal with their changes for their target till the code is mature |
08:18:11 | kkurbjun | it's all running from ram and some stuff is being put in one of the IRAM blocks |
08:18:53 | kkurbjun | and I'm playing around with some different ways of placing the vector tables.. similar to the ifp, but I need them for the bootloader too |
08:20:15 | kkurbjun | so do you do the svn tags properly in svn? |
08:20:15 | aliask | So if we put a bootloader in IRAM, mess with the memory, then load rockbox, it'd be fine? |
08:20:26 | kkurbjun | that's what the ipods do |
08:21:26 | kkurbjun | it's also assuming that you don't remap the iram either, or you remap it taking that info account in your linker scripts |
08:22:08 | kkurbjun | with the gigabeats you can remap anything anywhere with the mmu.. we're trying to avoid turning it on on the M:robe |
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08:22:53 | kkurbjun | which I think will work fine since we have writable memory at 0x0, I don't think the gigabeat F has a way to remap other than the MMU |
08:22:59 | aliask | Well, do I even need to remap things? I think the OF remaps some stuff, but if I turn off the MMU, will that cancel it? |
08:23:16 | aliask | Ah, the S doesn't have writable memory at 0x0 |
08:23:33 | kkurbjun | you need to get your vectors there somehow |
08:23:52 | kkurbjun | if there's a different memory remap register then you should be able to get by without the mmu |
08:25:11 | aliask | Different memory remap register? |
08:26:04 | kkurbjun | some devices have a way to swap a chunk of memory with another by setting a register |
08:27:18 | kkurbjun | do you have a link to the gigabeat S datasheet? |
08:27:51 | kkurbjun | or the imx one i mean |
08:28:05 | aliask | Just a second |
08:28:21 | kkurbjun | think I found it |
08:28:58 | aliask | There are a couple, the "real" one is 2364 pages long |
08:29:06 | kkurbjun | yeah, I don't have that one |
08:30:18 | aliask | http://www.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/ref_manual/MCIMX31RM.pdf?fpsp=1 |
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08:42:59 | ddalton | can someone commit http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7682 |
08:43:13 | kkurbjun | so on the coldfire you can set what address the CS line is tied to with the CSAR reg |
08:43:28 | ddalton | kkurbjun: Can you commit it? |
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08:47:42 | kkurbjun | ddalton, I'm not really familiar with that code from what I can tell it looks like it's ok from all I can tell, but it would be better to find someone who knows the code |
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08:48:10 | oranges2 | 2nd gen nanos are supported? O-o |
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08:49:20 | Llorean | oranges2: Are not. Where do you see that they are? |
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08:49:32 | oranges2 | http://www.rockbox.org/ |
08:49:37 | oranges2 | Under project news |
08:49:44 | Llorean | That says 2nd gen iPods, not iPod Nanos |
08:49:50 | oranges2 | Ah. |
08:49:53 | oranges2 | I misread |
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08:51:21 | ddalton | Llorean: can you commit something for me? |
08:53:17 | kkurbjun | aliask: best be might be is if there's a way to swap the builtin rom/ram, that's how it works on the m:robe, it doesn't look like you have a choice where the external ram is mapped, the coldfires seem a bit more flexible in that manner, but someone else that has more experience with different chips might be able to point you in a better direction. I didn't see a way to do it without the mmu briefly looking through the datasheet. |
08:53:24 | kkurbjun | gotta sleep.. |
08:54:48 | aliask | Thanks |
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09:20:06 | Veganfreak | Hi everyone! |
09:20:28 | Veganfreak | Is there a way to get rockbox to show ID tags instead of file names? (like for podcasts) |
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09:28:36 | petur | hello & goodbye Veganfreaks, rtfm... |
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09:35:04 | petur | mornin' pixelma |
09:35:23 | pixelma | morning |
09:35:50 | ddalton | pixelma: Have you got svn access? |
09:37:56 | ddalton | petur: can you commit something? |
09:38:05 | petur | what? |
09:38:22 | ddalton | fs#7682 (My last comment) |
09:41:17 | pixelma | ddalton: yes but usually I do only manual commits or only simple code changes (graphics, plugins). Also, I'm not fully awake yet... :) |
09:41:48 | ddalton | pixelma: It isn't a very big change could you have a look? |
09:44:25 | petur | ddalton: why did you change alarm,ipod*="" into two lines? |
09:44:58 | pixelma | I wanted to stay away from voice and leave it to the experts. And I would want to test something like this on a real target but I have none that has a wake up alarm (yet) |
09:45:09 | ddalton | I didn't mean to do that could you fix it? |
09:45:37 | pixelma | I meant "stay away from code changes there" |
09:46:22 | petur | there's also unneeded (and wrong) indentation change but I guess that is pretty hard for you to notice |
09:46:44 | ddalton | yep and a string was added and removed |
09:47:01 | * | petur checks availability of alarm on his h300 |
09:47:19 | XavierGr | petur: I was just righting a nag about it :P |
09:47:30 | XavierGr | please inform me if you see something wrong |
09:47:53 | ddalton | XavierGr: How do I use your patch (7814)? Should I set the alarm and turn off the player? |
09:48:10 | XavierGr | ddalton: yes |
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09:48:39 | XavierGr | s/righting/writing |
09:49:10 | ddalton | petur: check line 37 of the diff. Is something wrong? |
09:49:31 | ddalton | XavierGr: So it should wake the player up? |
09:49:40 | XavierGr | yes on the time you've selected |
09:49:50 | ddalton | so I one go to wake up alarm set it press navi shutdown the player and wait? |
09:50:13 | petur | so I would first need 7814 to be able to test |
09:50:15 | ddalton | so if I select 0 hours 5 minutes will it wake up in 5 minutes? |
09:50:15 | XavierGr | yes and make sure that you've set the alarm 2-3 minutes ahead of the current time |
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09:51:52 | XavierGr | also it seems that there is a bug in the alarm code (in general) that will not make your player start if you 1)set the alarm 2)turn off 3) turn on (mannually) 4) turn off again |
09:52:24 | petur | brb |
09:52:34 | XavierGr | I am going to investigate that at some point |
09:53:13 | XavierGr | also another annoying thing is that alarm screen (and drivers) doesn't give you the ability to set the alarm on a specific date. |
09:53:30 | XavierGr | at least on pcf5060x it is possible |
09:53:58 | XavierGr | something I will try to expand |
09:54:46 | ddalton | XavierGr: If I want it to wake up at 3 pm I set it to 15 hours and 0 minutes? |
09:55:42 | XavierGr | ddalton: yes |
09:56:06 | ddalton | before you said that if I select 0 hours 5 minutes it will wake up in 5 minutes from now |
09:56:59 | XavierGr | ddalton: I am sorry if what I said was confusing, I meant that if you want to test it first (before utilizing it) you have to set a time ahead of current time |
09:57:20 | XavierGr | so if you want to wake up at 15:05 and the time is 15:00 you set it at 15:05 |
09:57:48 | XavierGr | it is exactly like the clock, you don't set the interval but the exact time that you want to awake |
09:58:02 | ddalton | XavierGr: It does display on the screen " waking up in hours minuts) So should that be "Waking up at hours minutes"? |
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09:58:57 | XavierGr | yeah I guess, the splash is there to tell you in how many minutes the alarm will go off |
09:59:25 | XavierGr | it will just calculate alarm_time - current_time |
09:59:31 | Veganfreak | Hi everyone! |
09:59:39 | XavierGr | HI |
09:59:57 | Veganfreak | How do you make rockbox show ID tags (I think that's what theyre called) for podcasts instead of file names? |
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10:00:11 | Veganfreak | like the podcast name, but not the actual file name |
10:00:34 | XavierGr | podcasts? what is that? audio, video and what format? |
10:00:40 | ddalton | XavierGr: It is now 6 06 pm. I set the alarm to 18 hours and 10 minutes. So will it go off in 4 minutes? |
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10:01:03 | XavierGr | ddalton: hopefully yes |
10:01:14 | XavierGr | don't forget to turn off the player |
10:01:22 | ddalton | did you test on the h300? |
10:01:26 | ddalton | 20 gb |
10:01:27 | XavierGr | yes |
10:01:54 | ddalton | so it actually turned itself on from been shutdown. And no power plug in |
10:02:02 | ddalton | plugged |
10:02:06 | XavierGr | yes |
10:02:09 | Veganfreak | XavierGR, it's audio (cant get rockbox to support video podcasts) and mp3 |
10:02:18 | XavierGr | that's what the alarm does |
10:02:25 | scorche | Veganfreak: have you read teh manual? |
10:02:31 | ddalton | so and what should it do when it wakes up? |
10:02:38 | XavierGr | then if the mp3 file has id3v2 tags they should be visible |
10:03:08 | Veganfreak | They are in amarok, but not on the ipod |
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10:03:27 | XavierGr | ddalton: after the alarm setting item in the system menu there is another option to choose what you want to do |
10:03:33 | scorche | that doesnt answer my question... |
10:03:48 | XavierGr | ddalton: 3 settings: radio, playback, recording |
10:04:09 | Veganfreak | In amarok it says "podcast#12 -blahblahblah" in ipod it says "blahblah.mp3" |
10:04:14 | XavierGr | ddalton: you choose one of those and it will do the following upon restarting (by the alarm) |
10:04:16 | ddalton | XavierGr: When does it say "alarm set" |
10:04:24 | Veganfreak | Its kinda hard to tell them apart :\ |
10:04:26 | ddalton | there is a string in english.lang for it |
10:04:30 | scorche | Veganfreak: please read the manual... |
10:05:09 | Veganfreak | Ok sorry ill have a look at the manual again |
10:05:30 | XavierGr | ddalton: hmm I am not sure... |
10:06:23 | XavierGr | ddalton: does it work for you? |
10:06:35 | XavierGr | for me on every test I did it will work as expected |
10:06:48 | ddalton | I need to wait 3 minutes for it to wakeup |
10:07:21 | XavierGr | ah okay, tell me if you have any problems with it |
10:07:27 | ddalton | ok |
10:08:03 | petur | XavierGr: I'll try it here too |
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10:08:33 | XavierGr | petur: yeah that would be nice |
10:09:09 | XavierGr | the actuall code is imported from rtc_pcf50605.c, pretty silly that all this time the code was there but not utilized for the H300 |
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10:16:28 | * | petur is waiting for his h380 to wake up... |
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10:18:09 | pixelma | petur: and miepchen sleeps... ;) |
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10:18:41 | petur | will never wake up I fear (and so does my h380) |
10:18:42 | XavierGr | hmm petur: which bootloader do you have again, I am not sure if Linus alarm work on the bootloader is on the official one :\ |
10:18:54 | petur | it seems it isn't |
10:18:54 | ddalton | XavierGr: It didn't work last time. I set it to 18 hours 35 minutes and then pressed navi then I held down stop and shut down the player. |
10:19:05 | XavierGr | so the patch has no reason without a new bootloader damn |
10:19:11 | XavierGr | I should have thought of that first |
10:19:21 | ddalton | o yeah I select radio in the alarm thing |
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10:19:34 | ddalton | so what did you do to get it working/ |
10:19:40 | ddalton | ? |
10:19:46 | XavierGr | ddalton: you need a newer bootloader |
10:20:00 | ddalton | can I build one or is that risky? |
10:20:07 | XavierGr | the current one doesn't have the alarm code that will autopower on the unit |
10:20:12 | XavierGr | ddalton: quite risky |
10:20:20 | ddalton | do I need another patch? |
10:20:39 | ddalton | why is it risky? |
10:20:59 | XavierGr | ddalton: I builed one my self and works for me but the revision that works is 12547 |
10:21:05 | XavierGr | ^built |
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10:21:17 | ddalton | the other revs don't work? |
10:21:35 | petur | XavierGr: one of these days I'll have a look at why that bootloader refuses to work correctly here |
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10:21:55 | XavierGr | ddalton last time I tried with a latest revision it refused to boot rockbox |
10:21:56 | ddalton | XavierGr: Can you send me your one? |
10:22:06 | petur | here it only boots 50% of the time |
10:22:16 | XavierGr | fortunately: I could still boot to the OF to reflash |
10:22:33 | XavierGr | petur: I have r12547 ready, did you tried with that revision? |
10:22:41 | petur | no |
10:22:59 | ddalton | so if I used your boot loader I couldn't use the latest revision? |
10:23:01 | petur | I don't know which one I tried, LinusN made me one |
10:23:05 | XavierGr | ddalton: sure I can send it to you, (still on my unit) but are you sure? If something goes wrong it might brick your player |
10:23:25 | * | petur now has a second H320 as backup |
10:23:26 | ddalton | how can it brick my player? |
10:23:49 | petur | ddalton: if the bootloader doesn't work, the player is dead |
10:24:08 | petur | there's no emergency boot stuff |
10:24:17 | ddalton | petur: So can you take out the hard drive and fix it that way? |
10:24:25 | XavierGr | ddalton: nope |
10:24:33 | petur | no, the bootloader is in flash |
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10:24:45 | ddalton | XavierGr: What about hard drive replacements? |
10:24:50 | XavierGr | ddalton: basically every time you flash the unit there is a slight danger of a brick |
10:24:57 | petur | LinusN can attach a JTAG connector and reflash it that way |
10:25:04 | XavierGr | hard drive has nothing to do with the flash ddalton |
10:25:21 | ddalton | are they expensive if i needed one? |
10:25:30 | petur | why? |
10:25:45 | ddalton | if I bricked my player? |
10:26:08 | petur | ddalton: if you brick it, the problem is _not_ on the harddrive |
10:26:35 | ddalton | I thought you said LinusN could flash a bricked player |
10:26:56 | petur | yes, but he has to open it up and solder a connector on the board |
10:27:13 | ddalton | so how much would it cost to do that? |
10:27:23 | petur | so it costs him time and it costs you shipping |
10:27:35 | ddalton | a lot of money? |
10:27:42 | ddalton | for what ever you need |
10:27:52 | XavierGr | ddalton: let's say that you can't do it without the proper knowledge |
10:28:20 | ddalton | XavierGr: So if your using it why isn't your player bricked? |
10:28:27 | XavierGr | even if you have the jtag connector/bdm wiggler, it is quite difficult to reflash it |
10:28:45 | XavierGr | ddalton: because the firmware file I flashed was alright |
10:28:53 | XavierGr | and the process went without problems |
10:29:02 | ddalton | so yours isn't at any risk? |
10:29:10 | Veganfreak | I dont get it :( So if you wanna see the tags you have to write them yourself? |
10:29:39 | petur | Veganfreak: use the database feature |
10:29:44 | ddalton | now? |
10:29:49 | XavierGr | if I give you my firmware file, it might go as well as mine, but "maybe" the file gets corrupted and your player bricked |
10:29:59 | XavierGr | ddalton: for now yes :P |
10:29:59 | Veganfreak | ooo i seee |
10:30:26 | petur | Veganfreak: and in the WPS, the tags are shown anyway |
10:30:27 | ddalton | XavierGr: So your player isn't at any risk now? It is only when you flashed it? |
10:30:42 | Veganfreak | not for podcasts though |
10:30:46 | XavierGr | only when you flash |
10:30:55 | XavierGr | if the flashing goes bad, then you brick your player |
10:30:56 | Veganfreak | I only see the file name |
10:31:01 | XavierGr | brb will explain later |
10:31:13 | ddalton | XavierGr: And how does it get corrupted? |
10:31:21 | petur | Veganfreak: does the WPS show the tags for normal songs? |
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10:32:54 | Veganfreak | yeah for some of them |
10:33:15 | Veganfreak | yeah it does |
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10:33:43 | petur | then the files aren't correctly tagged |
10:33:48 | * | ddalton Gets out his book |
10:34:13 | Veganfreak | They showed up when I used iTunes and the original firmware though |
10:34:20 | Veganfreak | but now im on Ubuntu and I use Amarok |
10:34:30 | Veganfreak | and rockbox |
10:34:38 | petur | got one online somewhere? |
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10:35:34 | Veganfreak | Get what online somewhere? |
10:35:45 | petur | a file... for me to check? |
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10:36:37 | Veganfreak | ok |
10:37:27 | petur | rasher: that commit is indeed strange |
10:37:58 | Veganfreak | http://veganfreakradio.com/audio/veganfreak-2007-09-13-77450.mp3 |
10:38:07 | Veganfreak | lol |
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10:38:58 | Veganfreak | on my ipod it says: veganfreak-2007-09-13-77450.mp3 |
10:39:13 | Veganfreak | but in amarok it says: #78- We're Back! |
10:40:12 | Veganfreak | Same with other podcasts |
10:40:28 | petur | big file, slow link.. hold on |
10:41:28 | Veganfreak | ahhh sry ill try to find a smaller file |
10:41:46 | petur | nah, halfway already |
10:42:26 | Veganfreak | okay :D |
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10:44:00 | Bagder | amiconn: I'm here now for a few mins, anything important? |
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10:45:18 | amiconn | Bagder: The column for the Sansa C200 in the binsize table is in a really odd place... |
10:45:33 | Bagder | yeah, its a bug in the script |
10:45:52 | Bagder | it's supposed to be next to the e200 |
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10:47:05 | amiconn | That's where I would expect it... |
10:47:17 | petur | Veganfreak: there's albumart inside the tags, I'm quite sure we do not handle that well |
10:47:42 | amiconn | Hmm, and C200 is missing from daily builds and manuals |
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10:48:18 | Veganfreak | ahhh sorry im back, firefox crashed |
10:48:27 | petur | [10:47] <petur> Veganfreak: there's albumart inside the tags, I'm quite sure we do not handle that well |
10:48:42 | Bagder | yeah, c200 manual added now |
10:49:20 | Bagder | starting daily c200 builds tomorrow |
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10:51:10 | Veganfreak | ahh sorry firefox crashed |
10:51:46 | petur | Veganfreak: check the IRC log for my answer |
10:52:28 | Veganfreak | ok, how do I access the IRC log? :\ |
10:52:37 | Veganfreak | (sorry i'm a complete noob) |
10:52:45 | petur | the irc link on rockbox.org |
10:52:54 | Veganfreak | ok |
10:55:08 | Veganfreak | thanks |
10:55:17 | Veganfreak | But is there a way to get the podcast name to show? |
10:56:08 | pixelma | Bagder: voice files too? |
10:56:23 | petur | Veganfreak: not now... one we get metadata on buffer implemented, this will work. For the moment we have a limited buffer to load the tags and yours do not fit |
10:56:34 | petur | s/one/once |
10:56:55 | Veganfreak | Ok, thanks for the help! :-) |
10:57:00 | Veganfreak | I needa go now cya everyone |
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11:03:54 | ddalton | XavierGr: around? |
11:04:48 | XavierGr | one moment |
11:04:51 | XavierGr | removeing things |
11:05:08 | ddalton | removing what? |
11:06:46 | ddalton | just a quick c question: does a long only hold a number above 0 and it takes up 2 bites of memory unlike an int that takes four and can handle negative numbers? |
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11:07:30 | petur | long and int are the same in 32bit |
11:07:46 | ddalton | so i am getting confused with short? |
11:08:01 | ddalton | is short what I described above? |
11:08:08 | petur | use 'unsigned' in front if you want only positive numbers |
11:08:21 | ddalton | will that make it use less memory? |
11:08:43 | stripwax | memset(&G_TransientRatio, 0, sizeof(G_TransientRatio)); .. how does that work? Isn't G_TransientRatio already the pointer? and in any case wouldn't you need to multiply by sizeof(real)? |
11:08:56 | petur | if you want to use less memory, use 'short' or 'char' if the data fits it |
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11:09:12 | stripwax | that's from latest /trunk/apps/codecs/libfaad/ps_dec.c diff |
11:09:16 | ddalton | so what is the point of using unsigned then? |
11:09:38 | stripwax | ddalton - unsigned has a greater positive range than signed |
11:09:38 | petur | ddalton: if you use unsigned it will use all bits for the positive number, so it can be twice as big |
11:10:46 | stripwax | http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/codecs/libfaad/ps_dec.c?r1=14806;r2=14807 |
11:10:55 | petur | unsigned is also sometimes used if you want the value to become zero again if it overflows |
11:11:12 | ddalton | petur: got it. I just had a quick look in my c book and it told me all of this. Sorry... |
11:11:41 | ddalton | so int is the same as signed short? |
11:11:50 | petur | nooo |
11:12:09 | petur | short = 2 bytes, regardless of signed or unsigned |
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11:13:11 | stripwax | signed short has a range of -32768 to +32767. int is platform-dependent but is commonly 4 bytes so has a range of -2billion to +2billion |
11:13:21 | ddalton | so signed short is a signed int? |
11:13:26 | stripwax | what I said |
11:13:41 | ddalton | ok sorry didn't see that |
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11:18:28 | MikhailTkach | I'm trying to create a patch but "svn diff" doesn't include my new directory. hmmm |
11:18:48 | petur | "svn add" it first |
11:18:52 | MikhailTkach | oh |
11:19:57 | ddalton | you need to svn add it |
11:20:06 | ddalton | XavierGr: around? |
11:20:26 | ddalton | petur: Was my patch not able to be committed? |
11:20:36 | MikhailTkach | it worked :) |
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11:21:21 | petur | ddalton: I can't test on a real target so I keep out, and I need a new bootloader to first enable alarm. Too much to look at 'in between' |
11:22:12 | ddalton | you can test it if you apply 7814 (Just set it and make it say errors) You don't need to see it wake the player up |
11:22:59 | petur | well maybe later, I'm writing other stuff now |
11:23:00 | ddalton | and it has nothing to do with waking up the player apart from voicing the options in the alarm. It basically speaks a few strings from the voice and hen just talks the value of variables |
11:23:06 | ddalton | ok |
11:23:45 | petur | gtg anyway |
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11:37:21 | stripwax | anyone know more about that libfaad patch? |
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11:39:27 | amiconn | stripwax: G_TransientRatio isn't a pointer, it's an array |
11:39:58 | amiconn | The & in the memset call can be left out, as writing the array name without idices gives its address, but it doesn't hurt either |
11:40:26 | amiconn | The sizeof works properly for arrays |
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11:42:26 | stripwax | amiconn - for some reason I thought sizeof just returned the number of elements not the number of bytes? |
11:42:26 | * | amiconn wonders about a completely different thing though - why is libfaad using floating point?? |
11:42:51 | linuxstb_ | MikhailTkach: I've just looked at your NES emulator patch - are all the files you've included necessary? I see various .cpp files, many Makefiles, some .a files etc |
11:43:54 | * | stripwax is evidently very rusty |
11:45:24 | linuxstb_ | MikhailTkach: Also, a short "README.rockbox" file would be useful - describing the original project the emulator is based on, where you got the source code from, license information etc. |
11:45:54 | MikhailTkach | no, not all the files are nessecery... |
11:45:57 | stripwax | amiconn - thanks. I must be having one of those not-enough-coffee days |
11:46:12 | MikhailTkach | I included them for reference, but I will remove them |
11:48:05 | linuxstb_ | MikhailTkach: It's just that it will be harder for someone to review your patch if they stay there - and we wouldn't want to add them to svn anyway. |
11:48:23 | MikhailTkach | okay |
11:49:23 | linuxstb_ | Does your emulator have any benchmarking facilities? i.e. a display of the current speed relative to a real NES, so we can measure optimisations? |
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11:49:33 | MikhailTkach | nope |
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12:07:59 | XavierGr | petur: are you interested on my patched firmware with revision 12547? |
12:08:27 | XavierGr | (the one that I patched my H340 and Genre9mp3's back when I was in Lemnos) |
12:12:01 | linuxstb_ | MikhailTkach: It seems your LoadFrame function can be optimised a lot - by modifying the framebuffer directly, rather than calling lcd_drawpixel for every pixel... |
12:12:25 | amiconn | ! |
12:18:27 | Genre9mp3 | ? |
12:18:54 | XavierGr | ; |
12:19:02 | stripwax | 8~0 |
12:19:16 | pixelma | . |
12:20:02 | homielowe | \o/ |
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12:20:22 | linuxstb_ | Please spell out your words... |
12:20:35 | stripwax | so the rockbox.org homepage says 1st and 2nd gen ipods are supported as of 19 sep in the News panel. But the project news page doesn't say that? |
12:21:38 | stripwax | or does that only show the older news? |
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12:27:26 | petur | XavierGr: sure, but I don't think it will work any better than the version LinusN gave me right after devcon |
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12:29:44 | linuxstb_ | MikhailTkach: Another comment, you should use the BUTTON_* defines from button-target.h instead of hard-coding the values. Ideally you should create platform-specific #defines - see the other plugins for what I mean (e.g. the SOL_* defines solitaire.c). |
12:30:44 | MikhailTkach | okay, I'll look into that |
12:32:40 | linuxstb_ | MikhailTkach: Does the name "ines" mean you've based it on the ipodlinux port with that name? |
12:33:05 | MikhailTkach | no, thats just a temporary name. I'll change it |
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12:43:06 | XavierGr | ddalton: you wanted me something? |
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12:44:59 | ddalton | XavierGr: could you help me with this bootloader thing we were talking about earlier? |
12:45:59 | ddalton | XavierGr: So what would happen if you sent it to me? |
12:46:17 | XavierGr | ddalton: do you know how to flash a new firmware file on your H300 (I guess so, you are using rockbox after all) |
12:46:27 | XavierGr | you should know the risks involved |
12:46:28 | amiconn | The '!' was related to the usage of lcd_drawpixel() in the nes emulator |
12:46:30 | ddalton | yes |
12:46:36 | ddalton | using the of |
12:46:52 | XavierGr | if the file gets corrupted or the flash procedure is interrupted you might brick the unit do you understand that? |
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12:47:20 | XavierGr | If you feel sure enough I will provide you the .hex file and an md5 sum |
12:47:30 | ddalton | XavierGr: yes but is that the same with any firmware file or just this one you have? |
12:47:48 | XavierGr | with any |
12:47:57 | XavierGr | in fact even with iriver firmware files |
12:48:24 | ddalton | XavierGr: so would it get corrupted if you send it to me through email? |
12:48:56 | ddalton | how do I except it? |
12:48:59 | XavierGr | dcc maybe? |
12:49:21 | ddalton | dcc |
12:49:27 | XavierGr | did you got my pm? |
12:49:59 | ddalton | yes what is it about the pm? |
12:50:05 | XavierGr | ok let's continue it there |
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12:57:25 | ddalton | XavierGr: How do I check the md5 checksum |
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13:04:27 | Bagder | pixelma: c200 voice files added for tomorrow as well |
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13:10:05 | XavierGr | petur: and the fact that the same happens with H100 is even more frightful |
13:10:29 | XavierGr | probably linus will be much of help on this |
13:10:39 | petur | no, it points to a common cause |
13:10:48 | petur | and it has to be IDE related |
13:11:36 | petur | (for the other channel members, XavierGr and I resume some PM talk here as it became on topic again) |
13:11:42 | ddalton | XavierGr: Where does it install to? |
13:14:21 | amiconn | XavierGr: What happens with H100 (and H300 I presume)? |
13:14:56 | petur | XavierGr: another thing to try is to attach my 80GB disk to the h320 and see if that still boots |
13:15:15 | petur | amiconn: FS #7533 |
13:15:47 | petur | plus the fact that it doesn't boot rockbox at all on my h380 |
13:16:21 | petur | the one from LinusN booted 50% of the time, the last known good one from XavierGr does not |
13:16:58 | amiconn | SET_REG is a macro that expands to a simple register write on coldfire |
13:17:09 | petur | btw, do you remember all that talk from jungti1234 about the h3x0 LCD? He was right, my h320 has a _much_ better LCD |
13:17:35 | amiconn | There are 2 types of H300 LCDs. That's long known |
13:18:12 | amiconn | LinusN has that older type where angle dependency is high in horizontal direction and low in vertical direction |
13:18:21 | * | petur is back on official bootloader for now |
13:18:22 | amiconn | The newer LCd is the opposite |
13:18:50 | petur | so the newer ones are worse |
13:19:15 | amiconn | No, the newer ones are better |
13:19:51 | amiconn | The high horizontal angle dependency of the older type makes the 2 eyes see somewhat different colours, creating a strange effect |
13:20:02 | petur | ah |
13:20:26 | petur | I'm thinking of swapping hardware :) |
13:20:54 | amiconn | But the panels also seem to have individual differences in colour representaion |
13:21:21 | amiconn | My H340 has a new type LCD, but the rockbox blue is too bright on it and tends towards green |
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14:14:52 | dnanar | hi all ! |
14:16:57 | dnanar | i'm trying to use the alarm function on a Cowon iAudio X5(L 20GB) with rockbox installed on it. AFAIK there is no such function in rockbox firmware, so i'm trying to use the alarm of the original firmware (using dual boot). But, when i put on the alarm, that does not work (player does not power on by itself). Does anyone has a solution please ? |
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14:26:36 | hcs | dnanar: do you shut down from the original firmware or from rockbox? |
14:27:00 | hcs | the OF may put the player in a state from which it can be awakened by the alarm while rockbox does not |
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14:34:14 | petur | dnanar: according to FS #7814 it works on X5 |
14:34:14 | ddalton | dnanar: I am guessing it is something to do with the rockbox bootloader |
14:34:38 | ddalton | dnanar: Why don't you apply p7814? and then you can use the alarm in rockbox? |
14:35:10 | ddalton | dnanar: are you using FS #7814? |
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14:40:51 | dnanar | hcs: yes i'm shutting down it with the cowon firmware |
14:41:09 | dnanar | ddalton: what is p7814 please ? |
14:41:27 | dnanar | i would be really interested in using alarm with rockbox :) |
14:41:42 | dnanar | and what us FS #7814 also please ? |
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14:42:38 | dnanar | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7814 ? |
14:42:59 | petur | yes |
14:44:12 | dnanar | ok so i should download rockbox sources, apply patch, recompile it and then install new firmware. but shall i still use the dual boot or i will be able to use alarm only with rockbox please ? |
14:46:45 | XavierGr_ | x5 has the same pcf chip as the H300? |
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14:47:15 | ddalton | dnanar: You can probably use the afficial bootloader with FS #7814. |
14:47:44 | dnanar | ok :) |
14:47:55 | ddalton | XavierGr_: I think so |
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14:48:53 | dnanar | so i'm trying to compile rockbox but i do not find the right compiler (m68k-elf-gcc according to the configure script). Does anyone know where to find it (i'm under GNU/Linux Debian) |
14:48:54 | XavierGr_ | well sure the patch works, but I am not sure if the x5 bootloader has the alarm capabilities to wake it up. (just like the H300 which the latest official bootloader doesn't have the alarm code) |
14:48:55 | ddalton | XavierGr_: working now thank you very much I really appreciate it. |
14:49:14 | XavierGr_ | ddalton: no problem, enjoy it as I do on my H100 |
14:49:22 | XavierGr_ | I have the best alarm now :D |
14:49:50 | ddalton | XavierGr_: When I get around to it I want to make it shutdown the player with the sleep timer and then wake the player up. |
14:49:57 | ddalton | or can it do this already? |
14:50:08 | XavierGr_ | you can do it manually |
14:50:39 | XavierGr_ | set the alarm set and then the sleep timer under the system menu (the first system menu) |
14:51:03 | ddalton | and it will work so it will shut down and then start up when it is that time |
14:51:09 | XavierGr_ | yes |
14:51:12 | ddalton | (what the alarm is set to) |
14:51:18 | XavierGr_ | exactly |
14:51:27 | XavierGr_ | haven't tested it, but I can't find a reason why not to |
14:51:41 | ddalton | see p7814 the last comment. "Now tested, it works on my X5 with default bootloader." |
14:51:43 | dnanar | XavierGr_: i don't understand.will the patch work ? |
14:52:01 | XavierGr_ | ddalton: you own an X5 too? |
14:52:18 | ddalton | no but look at the last comment |
14:52:23 | ddalton | "Now tested, it works on my X5 with default bootloader." |
14:52:36 | XavierGr_ | ah didn't see those comments |
14:52:40 | XavierGr_ | nice then |
14:53:08 | ddalton | so I am guessing they use the same rtc code |
14:53:16 | XavierGr_ | yes it seems so |
14:53:35 | ddalton | XavierGr_: The good thing is I didn't brick my player :-) |
14:53:37 | XavierGr_ | the same pmu (pcf50606) which has the rtc |
14:53:38 | dnanar | does anyone know how to compile rockbox under linux please ? |
14:53:49 | ddalton | it says on the wiki |
14:53:54 | ddalton | how to compile |
14:54:13 | ddalton | but you run configure from your build dir then follow the on screen instructions. |
14:54:17 | ddalton | o yeah and then maek |
14:54:19 | ddalton | make |
14:54:21 | dnanar | yes, but configure script use m68k-elf-gcc compiler which i do not find (debianà |
14:54:29 | ddalton | you need it |
14:54:34 | dnanar | sure |
14:54:34 | ddalton | run rockbox.sh |
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14:55:11 | dnanar | ddalton: ah ok thanks :-) |
14:55:23 | ddalton | XavierGr_: What other players could we get this working on? |
14:55:37 | XavierGr_ | I am not sure |
14:57:20 | XavierGr_ | hmm the patch as it is on the wiki shouldn't work on x5, the person who says that works must have changed a line in the patch in order to make it work |
14:57:34 | dnanar | why ? |
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14:59:08 | XavierGr_ | because the patch changes config-h300.h instead of config-iaudiox5.h |
14:59:23 | XavierGr_ | I will update it |
14:59:48 | dnanar | ok thanks for the info :) |
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15:01:04 | ddalton | XavierGr_: What needs to be updated? |
15:01:29 | dnanar | and still another question please: for setting the hour of the alarm, i should boot on cowon firmware ? |
15:01:47 | dnanar | ddalton: |
15:01:48 | dnanar | −−- firmware/export/config-h300.h(revision 14811) |
15:01:49 | dnanar | +++ firmware/export/config-h300.h(working copy) |
15:01:57 | ddalton | dnanar: if you use XavierGr_'s patch then set it in rockbox |
15:02:11 | dnanar | ok |
15:02:33 | ddalton | o I see |
15:02:34 | dnanar | so there will be a menu in rockbox where i can do this ? cool :-) |
15:02:57 | ddalton | yes /seetings/general settings/system/alarm what ever it is called |
15:02:58 | XavierGr_ | aply the patch and just add "#define HAVE_RTC_ALARM" on config-iaudiox5.h |
15:03:01 | ddalton | settings |
15:03:48 | ddalton | XavierGr_: so it will be able to wake up the player with the original bootloader? |
15:03:51 | dnanar | ok, so when compiler checks if this define exist, if yes, it adds an item to a menu ? |
15:04:12 | ddalton | it just tells it that it can use the alarm |
15:04:30 | ddalton | and uses all the alarm code which involves a menu somewhere |
15:04:33 | XavierGr_ | dnanar: somewhat |
15:04:38 | XavierGr_ | yeah |
15:05:11 | dnanar | ok :) |
15:06:04 | dnanar | compiling the compiler is longer than compiling rockbox ;s |
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15:08:20 | XavierGr_ | dnanar: I coudln't imagine the opposite |
15:08:37 | XavierGr_ | dnanar: patch updated for x5 |
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15:11:52 | amiconn | XavierGr: If it works on X5 it should also work on M5 |
15:11:59 | XavierGr | gah! |
15:12:12 | XavierGr | then I will update it again |
15:12:17 | XavierGr | (and compile just to be sure) |
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15:14:18 | Genre9mp3 | XavierGr: hehe... your patch is growing :) |
15:15:34 | XavierGr | well thank preglow for that too :P |
15:18:01 | ddalton | dnanar: did you run rockbox.sh like I said? |
15:18:51 | dnanar | ddalton: yes rockbox is compiling ;-) |
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15:19:44 | ddalton | XavierGr: How do you change a task? |
15:21:07 | ddalton | dnanar: did you run the rockbox.sh script? |
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15:21:24 | dnanar | yes yes |
15:21:25 | ddalton | how did you get the compilers? |
15:21:42 | dnanar | the script installed the compiler, and now i'm compiling rockbox :) |
15:21:52 | XavierGr | ddalton: normal users can't, I think you need a permission for that |
15:21:54 | dnanar | (with the installed compiler) |
15:22:06 | XavierGr | wow you compiled the crosscompilers so fast? |
15:22:08 | XavierGr | what pc? |
15:22:10 | ddalton | XavierGr: ok |
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15:22:22 | ddalton | can you get all the compilers with rockbox.sh? |
15:22:24 | dnanar | XavierGr: huh... athlon xp 2200+ Oo |
15:22:41 | dnanar | ddalton: maybe not all, but the needed with configure script |
15:22:58 | ddalton | what else would you need? |
15:23:15 | dnanar | i don't know maybe some other tools :) |
15:23:25 | XavierGr | dnanar: on my 3Ghz pentium 3 I think it takes 30 minutes to build them |
15:23:32 | dnanar | Oo |
15:23:56 | ddalton | XavierGr: yep the sleep timer works good with the alarm |
15:23:57 | XavierGr | make that pentium 4 |
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15:24:36 | dnanar | and what should i upload to the player when the compilation of rockbox is finished please ? |
15:25:08 | XavierGr | after make, run make zip |
15:25:20 | XavierGr | then unzip the file to your player and you are ready |
15:25:38 | dnanar | oops sorry i didn't read the whole wiki page :) |
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15:26:35 | XavierGr | yeah that can make a difference :P |
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15:29:04 | ddalton | ok its getting late here I better go |
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15:29:07 | dnanar | we will see in exactly 3 minutes if the patch does works :) |
15:29:26 | dnanar | good night ddalton and thanks :) |
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15:31:45 | dnanar | yeah, it does works :)) |
15:32:34 | dnanar | but with dual boot it boots on cowon firmware. no problem i will erase this moron firmware |
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15:37:11 | dnanar | let's see what funny patch i could also apply héhé |
15:39:00 | dnanar | anyway thanks a lot everybody :) |
15:39:30 | JdGordon | whats a good way to shorten "status" to something simple for a #define? |
15:41:42 | petur | stat? |
15:46:48 | dnanar | #define statux a |
15:46:56 | dnanar | #define statux2 b |
15:47:00 | dnanar | etc... |
15:47:05 | dnanar | that's the best way ;-p |
15:47:16 | dnanar | status* |
15:47:29 | JdGordon | dnanar: missed what i was asking... /me uses STAT |
15:51:10 | * | petur plans to ask royalties for using that :p |
15:52:17 | JdGordon | ok, you can have 0.001% of my share of the rockbox royalties |
15:52:23 | dnanar | JdGordon: ok =) |
15:52:31 | petur | <g> |
15:52:36 | dnanar | petur: rockbox is not gpl'ed ? ;-) |
15:52:59 | JdGordon | you can still get paid for gpl'd code |
15:53:07 | petur | I didn't release that 'stat' tip under gpl ;) |
15:53:20 | petur | better remove it from the source ;) |
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15:54:09 | petur | in there a way in langv2 to define stuff only for swcodec? |
15:54:36 | petur | nm, found it |
15:54:37 | JdGordon | in the .lang? |
15:55:05 | * | petur uses 'recording_swcodec' |
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16:06:25 | dnanar | does anyone know how to "undo" a patch please ? |
16:07:15 | krazykit | patch -R |
16:08:44 | dnanar | krazykit: ok thanks =) |
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16:14:11 | zooook | hi |
16:14:23 | petur | hi |
16:15:44 | dnanar | hi |
16:16:03 | dnanar | anyone knows some cool patch/plugin for cowon iaudio X5L please ? ;) |
16:16:46 | zooook | i'm working on the creative firmware and was asked to add some info to the wiki, but I don't have permissions for it |
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16:17:35 | KwenTeen | bonzour |
16:17:57 | dnanar | francais ? ;) |
16:18:01 | faelnor | salut :) |
16:18:07 | KwenTeen | bien la peine de critiquer mirc faelnor ah si tu parles |
16:18:08 | zooook | is there anyone around who can grant me those? |
16:18:10 | obo | zooook: what is your wikiname? |
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16:18:43 | petur | KwenTeen: english please |
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16:19:03 | KwenTeen | yeah :/ hello and see u later |
16:19:05 | KwenTeen | ^^ |
16:19:11 | zooook | RasmusRy |
16:19:18 | dnanar | haem |
16:19:26 | zooook | (i'm a bit lagged here) |
16:20:03 | dnanar | and i were wondering: is there any tutorial/help/reference of rockbox functions to create a plugin please ? |
16:20:29 | petur | dnanar: look at the wiki and the helloworld plugin |
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16:21:12 | petur | dnanar: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowtoWritePlugins |
16:21:17 | obo | zooook: done |
16:23:44 | dnanar | petur: thanks a lot =) |
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16:25:07 | zooook | obo: thanks |
16:26:05 | dnanar | and... i do not understand how to "set up" a plugin: after writing the source code and adding it to apps/, what should i do to "add" the plugin to the makefile please ? |
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16:26:20 | kugel | hello |
16:26:24 | petur | add it to SOURCES |
16:26:31 | petur | and FILES |
16:27:13 | kugel | can someone tell me how to automate building a build? |
16:27:24 | kugel | on ubuntu |
16:27:31 | dnanar | petur: ok thanks a lot =) |
16:28:13 | petur | dnanar: fyi, that info was in that wiki page too :p |
16:28:32 | petur | kugel: the scrips used for the site are in svn too iirc |
16:28:55 | dnanar | kugel: svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox;mkdir build;cd build;sh ../tools/rockboxdev.sh |
16:29:14 | dnanar | ado wahat you want to do and then "make" |
16:29:23 | dnanar | and do what* |
16:29:36 | dnanar | petur: arf sorry i must be blind Oo |
16:29:44 | kugel | when I loaded the svn and apllied all the patches |
16:30:17 | kugel | i want the script to do everthing, so that i have the complete zip file |
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16:30:53 | petur | kugel: make and make zip are all you need |
16:30:57 | petur | see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile |
16:31:02 | sr | if my iaudio x5 isn't charging anymore (both by usb and ac adaptator) |
16:31:12 | sr | does that mean I have to sent it back to cowon? |
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16:31:28 | petur | sr: sounds like it |
16:31:45 | sr | ok |
16:31:46 | kugel | but when i do ../tools/configure i need to type my target and the build type |
16:31:59 | kugel | how to tell the script so that it does that |
16:32:00 | sr | petur, do you known how long it usualy take? |
16:32:10 | petur | sr: no idea |
16:32:43 | dnanar | kugel: use unix pipe |
16:33:11 | kugel | how? |
16:33:21 | dnanar | for exemple, iaudio X5 normal build : script < 30 \n M |
16:33:24 | dnanar | i think |
16:33:30 | JesseDeisinger | Hello, I signed up for the wiki and would like write permission |
16:34:05 | dnanar | kugel: ../tools/configure <<< 30 N i meant |
16:34:09 | dnanar | ../tools/configure <<< 30 N |
16:34:27 | dnanar | for bash version > 3 i think |
16:34:29 | kugel | ../tools/configure; <30 \n M \n;make ?? |
16:34:34 | dnanar | no |
16:34:36 | obo | JesseDeisinger: done |
16:34:39 | kugel | ok |
16:34:42 | JesseDeisinger | thanks |
16:34:47 | dnanar | ../tools/configure <<< 30 N;make;make zip |
16:34:55 | kugel | ok cool |
16:35:01 | dnanar | =) |
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16:36:03 | Domonoky | better would be: ../tools/configure << 30 N && make && make zip, so it stops when it errors.. :-) |
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16:36:39 | kugel | and how do i make a script file? |
16:36:51 | dnanar | Domonoky: yes =) |
16:36:57 | Domonoky | ask google.. :-) |
16:36:57 | dnanar | kugel: script file ? |
16:37:17 | acgla | Hey, i think i bricked my sansa, could someone help me? |
16:37:24 | kugel | i want just to run a script to do all this things |
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16:38:03 | krazykit | acgla, your sansa is not bricked, you just need to go through the recovery procedure |
16:38:12 | dnanar | kugel: follows Domonoky idea ;-p |
16:39:03 | dnanar | does anyone knows where to find original .wad file for doom ? ;) |
16:39:27 | petur | dnanar: buy it? |
16:39:52 | faelnor | ok since this is newbie question time, is two or multiple fonts for one wps something planned ? ;) |
16:39:58 | dnanar | we can still buy doom ? isn't too old ? Oo |
16:40:01 | kugel | ah ok got it |
16:40:16 | petur | dnanar: this is off-topic anyway |
16:40:25 | acgla | krazykit: i've tried a couple, like replacing the bootloader with the original one, so it would boot the r firmware but now it wont boot past the SanDisk logo |
16:40:39 | webguest57 | Hello. i was using cygwin and was having some trouble. i was at the stage that you identify the player your compiling for. it says the command was invalid. any help? |
16:40:53 | dnanar | petur: ah i thought that like there exist a doom plugin ;-) |
16:41:06 | Domonoky | faelnor: there are no plans.. but we would like to support multiple fonts.. but someone has to code it the right way.. :-) |
16:41:22 | faelnor | thanks Domonoky |
16:41:22 | krazykit | acgla, if you're on a windows machine, you can probably use sansa's tool, whatever it might be |
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16:41:23 | petur | dnanar: doom plugin, yes, getting wad's, no |
16:41:30 | kugel | thanks dnanar and Domonoky |
16:41:32 | dnanar | ok :) |
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16:41:56 | faelnor | i have no time to work on rockbox right now (except making my own theme) but i'd be interested in joining the team one day |
16:41:59 | webguest57 | ? |
16:42:01 | obo | webguest57: what command? |
16:42:07 | acgla | krazykit: im on linux (ubuntu), you mean the e200tool? |
16:42:27 | krazykit | acgla, no, i meant whatever sansa's official tool was, but since you're not on windows, it's a moot point |
16:42:55 | webguest57 | ../tools/configure |
16:43:00 | acgla | krazykit:i could use my other pc though |
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16:43:58 | krazykit | acgla, might be easier. |
16:44:00 | obo | webguest57: you're running that from within a build folder, which itself is within the rockbox source folder? |
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16:46:47 | acgla | krazykit: i found an updater tool from Sandisk, but nothing about a recovery tool |
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16:47:08 | webguest57 | Anybody |
16:47:10 | krazykit | the updater might fix it, otherwise, we'll have to figure out how to get e200tool workign for you |
16:47:36 | webguest57 | ? |
16:48:04 | Domonoky | webguest57: answer obos question... |
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16:48:12 | webguest57 | ../tools/configure |
16:48:12 | acgla | krazykit: i dont think the updater would work, because when i plug it into my pc, it doesnt mount, and lsusb doesnt see it |
16:48:24 | acgla | krazykit: i doubt windows would |
16:48:33 | krazykit | i suppose that's true. |
16:49:05 | petur | webguest57: look at the question obo asked: where are you running that command from? |
16:49:15 | acgla | krazykit: i can boot into both recovery and manufacturer mode, so i don't think it's completely bricked |
16:49:39 | webguest57 | oh... um... Dos... |
16:50:43 | webguest57 | i click on cygwin and dos comes up. i enter all that stuff but i dosent work, ../tools/configure |
16:50:53 | krazykit | acgla, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Unbrick |
16:51:17 | Domonoky | webguest57: thats the cygwin command promt and not dos... |
16:51:36 | acgla | krazykit: i tried that, but i cant seem to find the binary-patched e200r bootloader |
16:51:42 | Domonoky | and we want to know in which folder you aren in cygwin when you enter the command.. |
16:52:11 | krazykit | acgla, well, let's get it back to how it was. do you have the unpatched bootloader? |
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16:53:52 | acgla | krazykit: i have the ones i downloaded from http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200RBootloaderPatching |
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16:56:40 | webguest57 | sorry my keyboard is malfunctioning |
16:56:51 | MBaller20 | any news on the development of the e200r auto-instaler. Just wondering. |
16:57:12 | webguest57 | sorry |
16:57:57 | krazykit | acgla, i'm pretty sure there's an unpatched e200r bootloader somewhere |
16:57:58 | webguest57 | any help? anyone? |
16:58:15 | krazykit | webguest57, have some patience, really. |
16:58:56 | petur | webguest57: how do you expect to get help when you do not answer the questions you're asked? |
16:59:28 | krazykit | acgla, really, i don't have an e200r, just the vanilla. |
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16:59:37 | krazykit | acgla, http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200/BL_SD_boardSupportSD.btl |
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17:00:04 | krazykit | that appears to be the e200r bootloader |
17:00:18 | acgla | krazykit: should i try recovering with e200tool? |
17:00:38 | acgla | krazykit: like e200tool recover <link you gave me> |
17:00:52 | webguest57 | IM TRYING I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION!!! plz repeeat them. i am stresed out right now |
17:01:00 | krazykit | acgla, yep |
17:01:09 | petur | webguest57: stop shouting |
17:01:20 | acgla | krazykit: ok, ill try that, thanks for your help |
17:01:26 | petur | webguest57: [16:51] <Domonoky> and we want to know in which folder you aren in cygwin when you enter the command.. |
17:02:23 | webguest57 | build. in the wiki, it says that they used build as the folder |
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17:02:25 | acgla | krazykit: oh, i forgot, in which mode should i put the sansa in? recovery or manufactury? |
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17:03:24 | krazykit | acgla, manufacturing for the bootloader. |
17:03:39 | dnanar | goodnight everybody ! |
17:03:45 | MBaller20 | anyone know a great site to help a noob on linux, like me, learn how to use a livecd because i'm having problems booting it up. Thanks. |
17:03:50 | acgla | krazykit:thanks, i'll do that right now |
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17:05:00 | acgla | mballer20: try entering the bios when you boot and then change the boot order, make sure you put CD-ROM first |
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17:06:33 | MBaller20 | i've done that and got to the menu where it says start or install or something like that but when i selected it a peach or tan colored blank screen came up and only a cursor showwed. |
17:06:55 | krazykit | MBaller20, sounds like it's ubuntu. go ask #ubuntu |
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17:07:11 | MBaller20 | yeah, it is ubuntu |
17:07:37 | webguest57 | in the build folder, where they tell u |
17:07:45 | acgla | mballer: or you could try another distro, because it sound like ubuntu doesnt like your video card |
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17:09:11 | MBaller20 | i'm going to wait for another week to see if any progress on the auto-installer for the e200r but if not, i'll try to learn everyhting i need to to do it manually. Thank for your replies. |
17:09:33 | petur | webguest57: and where did you create this build folder? |
17:10:37 | webguest57 | i dont real;ly know. it only said "cd folder" where folder is the foler name is |
17:11:54 | petur | from your build folder, do "cd .." and tell me if you see directories called app and tools (and others) |
17:12:27 | petur | errr do "dir" to see the list of files and dirs of course |
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17:13:55 | krazykit | petur, er, dir isn't a valid command. he should be seeing a bash prompt. |
17:14:11 | krazykit | unless dir is aliased to ls. |
17:14:33 | petur | I can even dir on my ubuntu :p |
17:14:39 | webguest57 | i do get lots of bash prompts |
17:14:48 | webguest57 | ;) |
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17:15:26 | webguest57 | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?p=577788#post577788 |
17:16:45 | petur | webguest57: so it works? |
17:16:58 | webguest57 | no |
17:17:05 | webguest57 | i see nothing |
17:17:42 | petur | you can't see nothing... start telling what you really see and not what you think you see |
17:18:27 | petur | do dir (or ls), select the output and copy it to a site like pastebin please |
17:18:44 | webguest57 | After entering dir it goes down a line but nothing happens |
17:19:03 | krazykit | webguest57, what's the output of pwd |
17:19:13 | krazykit | petur, it can if he's in an empty directory. |
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17:19:46 | petur | krazykit: no. If he was in his build dir and did "cd .." it cannot be empty |
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17:20:10 | webguest57 | " home/compaq_owner/build "to pwf |
17:20:32 | webguest57 | Pwd |
17:20:46 | petur | not type "cd .." without the quotes |
17:20:51 | petur | *now |
17:21:44 | webguest57 | same outcome as above |
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17:22:29 | petur | webguest57: no. pwd should now say "home/compaq_owner" |
17:23:19 | webguest57 | yea... it does.. |
17:23:32 | petur | now type "dir" |
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17:24:25 | webguest57 | Is says build under the prompt |
17:24:36 | petur | and nothing else? |
17:24:45 | webguest57 | no |
17:24:59 | petur | did you even checkout the code from svn? |
17:25:34 | webguest57 | i downloaded it from the site manualy |
17:25:45 | webguest57 | its on my desktop |
17:26:26 | petur | webguest57: well you have to unzip it to the place where cygwin has your home dir, and create the build dir there |
17:26:58 | webguest57 | so drag it into the build folder? |
17:28:23 | petur | webguest57: maybe you should consider that this will be nothing for you |
17:28:49 | petur | did you install or build the crosscompilers? |
17:29:10 | webguest57 | it said that they installed automaticly |
17:29:30 | petur | whatever |
17:29:31 | acgla | krazykit: i did it, now it's on recovery mode, anything else i should do? |
17:29:58 | krazykit | acgla, maybe put the unpatched r firmware there. i dunno that it's necessary, but it won't hurt |
17:30:46 | acgla | krazykit: i should download it from sandisk, right? |
17:30:56 | acgla | krazykit: the mi4 |
17:31:21 | webguest57 | plz help me i want to learn plz dont give up i will do evrything you say PLZ |
17:31:57 | krazykit | webguest57, the follow the instructions on the wiki. they tell you EVERYTHIGN on how to set up the cygwin environment correctly. |
17:32:19 | krazykit | acgla, mmm, not sure. i know daniel.haxx.se has it somewhere |
17:32:30 | krazykit | acgla, http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200/rhapsody/rhapsody-1.0.2.31.zip |
17:32:57 | acgla | krazykit: thanks |
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17:41:38 | acgla | krazykit: it worked, thank you very much |
17:42:26 | krazykit | acgla, now that you know the recovery procedure, you can try rockboxing it again without worry :P |
17:42:49 | acgla | krazykit: i will : ) |
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19:19:22 | Psycoshot | Hey |
19:19:53 | Psycoshot | is there a way to add vieos on rockbox? I have a 5G 30GB video |
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19:20:38 | Psycoshot | ? |
19:20:49 | daurn|laptop | rockbox doesn't do video |
19:20:58 | Psycoshot | Oh ok. |
19:21:18 | Psycoshot | So I'd have to use a bootloader? |
19:21:50 | daurn|laptop | yeppers |
19:22:02 | Nico_P | daurn|laptop, Psycoshot; actually rockbox does video: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginMpegplayer |
19:22:24 | Nico_P | it can't play the files the OFplays, though |
19:22:24 | Psycoshot | Oh thats good |
19:22:43 | daurn|laptop | ooo |
19:23:55 | Nico_P | keep in mind it's still kinda experimental |
19:24:19 | obo | and pretty slow on the ipod video, ~10fps |
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19:25:05 | * | daurn|laptop swears he read 43fps |
19:25:27 | daurn|laptop | ah, that was for 128x96 |
19:27:12 | Psycoshot | heh |
19:27:53 | Psycoshot | Does it play mp4, I thnk mped is the same? |
19:27:58 | Psycoshot | *mpeg |
19:28:11 | Nico_P | Psycoshot: no it doesn't |
19:28:20 | Psycoshot | Oh damn |
19:28:29 | Psycoshot | I have all my vids in mp4 >.> |
19:28:36 | Nico_P | and mp4 is different from mpeg... that's what I meant earlier |
19:29:37 | Nico_P | Psycoshot: you can still boot the OF to watch your vids, or convert them... or figure out how to use the video decoding chip the iPod has |
19:29:49 | Psycoshot | Anyone tried encoding a mp4 to mpeg, how long it takes? |
19:30:17 | Psycoshot | I don't have a bootloader, is iit hard to install? |
19:30:21 | Nico_P | Psycoshot: it's not too long... http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer#How_to_encode_files |
19:30:26 | iamben | encoding to mpeg is very fast |
19:30:50 | Psycoshot | Ok Ill just do that then. |
19:30:52 | Psycoshot | Thanks. |
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19:51:45 | joecool | the hardware EQ on ipod does seem to make a MAJOR difference |
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19:52:25 | webguest91 | is there anyway someone could give me the patched files so i won't have to use linux? |
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19:54:10 | webguest91 | i'm using sansa e200r |
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19:58:38 | kugel | wow the change to apps/screen_access.c and .h confused so many patches |
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19:59:26 | webguest91 | does anyone know if i can get these patched files somehow without using linux? |
19:59:56 | kugel | what do you mean? |
19:59:56 | linuxstb_ | webguest91: If there was a way, the instructions wouldn't say you must use Linux... |
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20:00:19 | webguest91 | h, sorry for the stupid question |
20:00:23 | webguest91 | oh* |
20:00:32 | linuxstb_ | webguest91: Getting the patched files isn't the issue - they're available for download, the issue is installing them on your e200r. |
20:00:53 | kugel | just use a live cd webguest |
20:00:58 | kugel | you dont need to install linux |
20:01:15 | webguest91 | i have one but my computer is way to old to use it |
20:01:27 | kugel | download f.e. ubuntu 7.04 |
20:01:30 | kugel | and boot from cd |
20:01:57 | webguest91 | will ubuntu 7.04 work on an old computer |
20:02:24 | Psycoshot | hom old |
20:02:31 | Psycoshot | how* |
20:02:34 | Psycoshot | :P |
20:02:40 | webguest91 | i'm not very sure |
20:03:00 | Psycoshot | It shold |
20:03:00 | webguest91 | i'll look for the model number |
20:04:26 | kugel | how many ram? |
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20:04:33 | kugel | thats most important part |
20:04:43 | webguest91 | 64MB i think |
20:04:51 | kugel | lol |
20:05:07 | kugel | it must be over 10 years old |
20:05:27 | webguest91 | i think more than hat. : ) |
20:05:29 | kugel | not sure if any actual OS will run on it |
20:05:40 | kugel | try vista |
20:05:42 | kugel | lol joke |
20:05:48 | webguest91 | i have windows xp on it but it runs slow |
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20:06:18 | kugel | the problem is, that a live cs needs way more ram than an installed version |
20:06:46 | kugel | if you install linux it might run, but from a live cd most likely not |
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20:07:03 | webguest91 | will linux remove windows? |
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20:08:43 | Soap_ | webguest91: No, a LiveCD will boot off of the CD, and run /from/ the CD, it will not remove windows unless you choose to explicitly install Linux, and even then (depending on the distro CD you choose to boot) it will have a variety of ways for you to install, including dual-boot, and full replacement. |
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20:09:39 | kugel | you should really buy a new comp |
20:09:43 | sunjun | hey, what does the %t10 wps tag do? its not in the manual |
20:09:48 | webguest91 | what if i don't choose to install it with a cd? will i still be able to dual-boot |
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20:10:05 | webguest91 | kugel: If only money grew on trees |
20:10:09 | kugel | when you choose to boot as live cd |
20:10:26 | kugel | you will allways have dual boot |
20:10:45 | kugel | since linux isnt installed, but booted from the disc |
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20:13:08 | webguest91 | should i get the server install cd or the alternate install cd? |
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20:13:29 | Nico_P | sunjun: the %t tag is used to define the alternation time of sublines |
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20:14:32 | webguest91 | alternate cd says it install on computers with less than 256MB so i think i'll go with that |
20:14:36 | rvvs89 | webguest91: If you want to run a server then get the server install CD, if you don't then don't |
20:14:44 | webguest91 | ok |
20:15:15 | sunjun | Nico_P: i dont quite get it, could you explain it using an example? |
20:15:27 | webguest91 | well, i don't want to permenantly install it on my computer. |
20:16:17 | Nico_P | sunjun: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS#Alternating_Sublines |
20:17:20 | sunjun | Nico_P: thanks |
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20:29:39 | webguest07 | Hello. i am having diffuculties on getting cywin to do what i want. i always get bash prompts when i try to do as the wiki tells me. any help would be grateful. |
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20:43:38 | kugel | wow |
20:43:45 | kugel | i've done mass syncing... |
20:44:40 | Psycoshot | Hey I installed WinFF on my linux system, and I have to change the xml but I don't know where it is, anyone have a clue? |
20:46:34 | Nico_P | Psycoshot: my guess would be ~/.winff |
20:46:50 | Psycoshot | Awesome |
20:46:52 | Psycoshot | Thanks |
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20:50:59 | Psycoshot | Yay it worked, thanks everyone |
20:51:22 | kugel | nice, i just need to run 1 script with 3 parameters to load svn, apply all my patches and compile at once |
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21:12:25 | ryanpg | hi all... I'm having a hard time figuring out exactly what sandisk models are supported |
21:12:45 | ryanpg | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Port does this mean any e200 series? i.e. e250? |
21:12:45 | Zagor | ryanpg: c200 and e200 series |
21:12:50 | Zagor | yes |
21:13:52 | ryanpg | ok cool |
21:14:00 | ryanpg | I'm getting ready to buy a birthday gift |
21:14:01 | ryanpg | http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8316574&type=product&id=1174693782337 |
21:14:14 | Zagor | the number after '2' just indicates the flash size |
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21:14:48 | ryanpg | ok so the c250 sansa (2gb) should work fine with a daily build of rockbox? |
21:14:56 | Zagor | yes |
21:15:03 | ryanpg | thanks Zagor :) |
21:15:08 | ryanpg | do you have this model? |
21:15:29 | Zagor | I do. there are a few buts though, since the c200 series is a very recent port |
21:16:12 | ryanpg | hrm... well it's for my gf |
21:16:15 | Zagor | 1: usb connect does not work. you currently have to connect usb while the device is off, so it boots the original firmware and runs usb from there |
21:16:28 | ryanpg | k |
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21:17:09 | Zagor | also some plugins are still not fully adapted, so minor things like game play speed or button assignments can be a little off |
21:17:50 | ryanpg | k |
21:18:09 | Zagor | I noticed for example "chopper" is quite fast and "jackpot" is veery slow |
21:18:27 | ryanpg | hrm... |
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21:28:37 | sdoyon | Would a dev be willing to review one or two of my patches? |
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21:33:04 | kugel | can someone tell me why "../tools/confirgure <<< 50 N" doesnt work with a ruby script? |
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21:36:34 | sdoyon | kugel: well I don't know ruby, but FWIW here with bash, the following seems to work: echo -e "30\nN" |../tools/configure |
21:37:00 | Bagder | it's probably the newline that is the key |
21:37:38 | kugel | ok im gonna try |
21:38:31 | kugel | i had "system('../tools/configure <<< 50 N)" which sends the phrase to the shell |
21:38:36 | kugel | ") |
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21:39:10 | Bagder | but there's no newline |
21:39:16 | kugel | jup |
21:39:18 | Bagder | 50 newline N newline |
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21:39:30 | Bagder | so it worked+ |
21:39:32 | Bagder | ? |
21:39:58 | kugel | '../tools/configure <<< 50\nN\n' |
21:40:02 | kugel | didnt work |
21:40:04 | Dark_Apostrophe | Can anyone help me encode videos so they can be played on my gigabeatf20? |
21:40:14 | Bagder | I don't know what the <<< operator is so I can't comment on that |
21:40:23 | Bagder | I use echo -e in very many scripts just fine |
21:40:32 | Dark_Apostrophe | I tried using the mencoder command, but the video freezes the gigabeat |
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21:41:38 | kugel | the <<< sends the target number and the build type to configure |
21:41:41 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb / linuxstb_ |
21:41:45 | Dark_Apostrophe | Are you around? :) |
21:41:58 | Bagder | kugel: but if it doesn't work, it doesn't send it the right way... |
21:41:59 | linuxstb | yes |
21:42:30 | Dark_Apostrophe | linuxstb: Can you help me with encoding videos so they'll play on the gigabeat? |
21:42:46 | sdoyon | kugel: Presumably it doesn't expand \n into a newline character. |
21:42:51 | Dark_Apostrophe | I tried encoding an episode of 'Allo 'Allo! with the mencoder command, but it crashes the gigabeat |
21:42:55 | kugel | it works when i type it in the terminal |
21:43:04 | kugel | just not when using the ruby script |
21:43:13 | kugel | "echo -e "30\nN" |../tools/configure" didnt work either |
21:43:34 | Bagder | no echo -e '30\nN' works |
21:43:49 | Bagder | with " you need to use double backslashes |
21:44:01 | kugel | i didnt use " |
21:44:08 | kugel | 'echo -e 30\nN |../tools/configure' |
21:44:14 | kugel | and 'echo -e "30\nN" |../tools/configure' |
21:44:16 | Bagder | I doubt that works either |
21:44:27 | Bagder | echo -e '30\nN' | ../tools/configure |
21:44:33 | kugel | i dont need double backslash with ruby |
21:44:41 | Bagder | that's not ruby, that's shell |
21:44:58 | linuxstb | Dark_Apostrophe: I can't say anything apart from what's on the PluginMpegplayer wiki page - winff seems to work well for people (it's available for windows and Linux) |
21:45:11 | Dark_Apostrophe | Yes, I know |
21:45:19 | Dark_Apostrophe | but there is a problem with that: |
21:45:26 | Dark_Apostrophe | the binary is only for i386 |
21:45:29 | Dark_Apostrophe | I'm on AMD64 |
21:45:36 | Dark_Apostrophe | and I have no fucking clue how to compile Pascal apps |
21:46:00 | kugel | well, i get a different error now |
21:46:27 | kugel | now its "just" "../tools/configure: not found" |
21:48:21 | kugel | Dark_Apostrophe: do you use a 64-bit OS? |
21:48:27 | Dark_Apostrophe | Yes |
21:48:29 | Dark_Apostrophe | Debian Sid |
21:48:30 | kugel | or just the CPU |
21:48:32 | kugel | ok |
21:50:31 | kugel | well, with "cd ~/rockbox"+ARGV[1]+"/sim;echo -e 50 N |../tools/configure" he runs configure, but doesnt enter 50 or N |
21:50:48 | kugel | "echo -e 50 N |../tools/configure" |
21:50:56 | kugel | forget the things before that |
21:50:57 | Bagder | echo -e 50 N makes no sense |
21:51:15 | kugel | ahh, sorry, i tried that too |
21:51:33 | Bagder | tried what ? |
21:51:37 | kugel | but echo -e '50\nN\n' |../tools/configure didnt work either |
21:51:46 | Bagder | why not? |
21:51:51 | kugel | i dont know |
21:52:07 | Bagder | that's the method we all use |
21:52:16 | Zagor | Dark_Apostrophe: amd64 runs i386 binaries. |
21:52:35 | Dark_Apostrophe | Yes, but dpkg refuses to install i386 debs :p |
21:52:45 | Zagor | aha |
21:53:01 | kugel | i think im just gonna run a shell script |
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21:54:09 | Zagor | kugel: are you running an exotic shell? |
21:54:15 | kugel | yes |
21:54:17 | kugel | i got it |
21:54:26 | kugel | no need for a extra shell script |
21:54:33 | kugel | no, bash |
21:54:46 | kugel | i found the mistake |
21:56:17 | kugel | great, thank you Badger |
21:56:42 | sdoyon | Could a dev look P7563 over: it speaks the simple and advanced eq settings menus. |
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22:00:06 | BDS | are there any rockbox groups using voice i.e. Skype? |
22:00:38 | Bagder | I've seen some people mention that in mails on the list |
22:00:57 | BDS | Tnx I will search |
22:02:13 | kugel | ok, it does not work |
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22:02:36 | kugel | sim dir wasnt empty that why he started to compile |
22:07:01 | Zagor | can an e200 user check #7792? It doesn't happen on my c250 |
22:07:59 | Zagor | however the fade-on-pause is horribly slow. on my archos it's ~500ms fade. on the c200 it feels like about two seconds. |
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22:08:48 | Zagor | how is it on other targets? |
22:11:54 | kugel | what fade is meant? when i press pause? |
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22:12:23 | Zagor | kugel: yes |
22:13:18 | kugel | i have an e200 |
22:13:23 | kugel | but i dont use this patch |
22:13:41 | kugel | opps |
22:13:46 | kugel | its no patch^ |
22:13:50 | Zagor | no :) |
22:14:13 | kugel | whats the issue now? |
22:14:33 | Zagor | try and see if your playback stops when you toggle the "fade on pause" setting |
22:14:58 | Zagor | (found in settings->general->playback) |
22:15:09 | kugel | no |
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22:15:12 | kugel | it doesnt stop |
22:15:55 | Zagor | ok, thanks |
22:17:23 | Zagor | nggh, I'm silly. that was the wrong feature... |
22:18:01 | kugel | lol :D |
22:18:16 | kugel | is someone familiar with the multifont patch? |
22:19:05 | Dark_Apostrophe | Zagor: Never mind, using the windows version under wine |
22:19:09 | Dark_Apostrophe | It seems to do the job |
22:19:16 | Zagor | hehe, nice workaround |
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22:24:32 | kugel | anyone? |
22:24:32 | kugel | its out-of-sync, and i cant sync it |
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22:34:23 | Zagor | grr, H140 has the slow fade too. who the heck wants a slow fade?? |
22:34:27 | Zagor | now I understand why people think this function is useless. it IS when it is this slow. |
22:34:33 | Zagor | the purpose of it is to avoid the nasty "click" from sudden abort/resume. it's not a friggin sleep timer! |
22:34:55 | linuxstb | ;) The first thing I do is disable it... |
22:35:18 | Bagder | that teaches you to not pause! ;-) |
22:36:12 | Zagor | I can understand that. I love it in my car. it simply is a softer pause/resume than normal, you can barely tell it's fading. |
22:36:31 | Zagor | this multi-second nonsense is rubbish |
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22:47:32 | tumu | needs moar seconds |
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22:56:52 | Zagor | also, will anyone be very upset if I change the "cd" disk access icon to a more classic "storage cylinder"? It took me a while to understand what the current icon was supposed to be. |
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23:00:54 | Zagor | and while I'm digging, why are we mi4-encoding the rockbox binary on sansa? |
23:01:59 | Bagder | to make rolo etc do the same |
23:02:10 | Bagder | we don't encrypt it, we just use the mi4 format |
23:02:18 | Zagor | ah, ok |
23:02:19 | Bagder | which allows all plain text |
23:05:08 | Zagor | 5 steps instead of 30 makes the fade sound a lot better |
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23:13:35 | linuxstb | Could someone put a new sansapatcher (0.4) release on the download server? http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/sansapatcher.zip |
23:13:57 | linuxstb | We should probably move it out of the e200 directory now... |
23:14:35 | Zagor | heh, I made a c200 dir a few days ago |
23:14:49 | Bagder | Zagor: do you take care of it? |
23:14:53 | Zagor | sure |
23:15:35 | linuxstb | The c200 bootloader (v2.0) I embedded is this one - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/firmware.mi4 (I've just tagged it in SVN as well) |
23:16:44 | Zagor | are any of the player-specific files necessary to keep? |
23:16:58 | Zagor | i mean the ones currently on the download server |
23:17:08 | Bagder | yes, keep the bootloader mi4s there |
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23:17:37 | Zagor | ok |
23:17:45 | linuxstb | Given the current broken state of the e200 bootloader, it's worth keeping the old sansapatcher (v0.2) there. |
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23:23:11 | Zagor | ok, now I've sansapatcher is in bootloader/sandisk-sansa/sansapatcher, which also contains an 'old' directory with the 0.2 and 0.3 versions |
23:23:15 | Zagor | my strange very language today is |
23:24:44 | linuxstb | OK, I'll update the links in the manual |
23:30:06 | linuxstb | Zagor: Did you rename the old sansapatcher.dmg file in the macosx directory to sansapatcher-0.2.dmg? It seems it was named wrongly (sansapatcher.dmg should always be the latest version). |
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23:32:46 | Zagor | no but it's now in the /bootloader/sandisk-sansa/sansapatcher/old/v0.2/macosx directory. should I still rename it? |
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23:35:03 | linuxstb | No, that's fine - I just wanted to check the right one went to the right place. |
23:35:14 | Zagor | ok |
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23:50:23 | fm2 | How can I do the following? I have a global array. I'd like to define a macro that, upon each usage, would assign a value to the next element of the array. |
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23:51:11 | fm2 | First, I define the symbol for the current index (#define CUR_IDX 0). But how can I advance the index in a macro? |
23:51:26 | linuxstb | fm2: Why hide that in a macro, instead of just doing something like a[i++]=x; ? |
23:52:01 | Zagor | we generally want to avoid macros |
23:52:03 | fm2 | linuxstb: because all this is done with macros, not with C code. |
23:52:17 | Zagor | macros are C code, just more obfuscated |
23:52:35 | * | petur points Zagor to the settings code :p |
23:52:41 | fm2 | linuxstb: I try to automatically populate an array with menu call stats (FS #7809, if you're interested) |
23:53:01 | Zagor | petur: yeah I know. I'm _not_ happy about that. |
23:53:25 | Nico_P | fm2: I don't really see how you're going to be able to increment your current index |
23:54:06 | Nico_P | fm2: do you want the preprocessor to generate initialisation code for your array ? |
23:54:52 | fm2 | Nico_P: yes, if that's possible. Or is there another way? I want to somehow create a "list" of all defined menu items. |
23:56:10 | fm2 | With a macro (STATS_STRUCT in my case) I want to declare a static struct and put its address to the next free element in the array. |
23:58:23 | fm2 | What I have so far is at http://www.pastebin.ca/707410 But I'm afraid this won't work. |