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| 00:01:05 | billenium | is rockbox.org working for anyone? |
| 00:01:17 | Llorean | Works fine for me |
| 00:01:31 | billenium | weird |
| 00:01:49 | billenium | could i ask you a small favor? |
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| 00:15:51 | markun | happy new year guys!! (and girls :) |
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| 00:17:43 | JdGordon|w | ditto markun |
| 00:17:51 | J-23 | Heppy new year! (17 minutes after in my country) |
| 00:18:17 | billenium | hehe |
| 00:18:27 | billenium | still another 6 hours - 17 minutes here |
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| 00:18:36 | * | scorche|w wonders if we are going to do this for each time zone |
| 00:18:56 | billenium | ever hour on the hour im going to say happy new years |
| 00:19:09 | billenium | i guess i can setup a timer script for that... |
| 00:19:45 | * | scorche|w readies the kick button |
| 00:20:32 | billenium | scorche has kicking privalleges? |
| 00:20:37 | billenium | its not like im spamming anyways =P |
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| 00:32:11 | AceDaPig | how do i get out of a game? |
| 00:32:30 | Llorean | Depends an awful lot on what game, and what player. I'd suggest The Manual for a good starting piont |
| 00:32:44 | AceDaPig | where can i look for in the manual; |
| 00:33:00 | Llorean | In the section for that plugin... |
| 00:33:02 | AceDaPig | none of the chapters seem to cover games |
| 00:33:37 | Llorean | Open the PDF manual in a PDF viewer, search, and type in the name of the plugin you're using? |
| 00:33:45 | AceDaPig | ah |
| 00:33:46 | AceDaPig | thanks |
| 00:34:14 | AceDaPig | rockbox > ipl |
| 00:34:20 | AceDaPig | so simple |
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| 00:35:39 | billenium | hehe |
| 00:35:51 | billenium | im happy i "suggested" for him use rockbox |
| 00:39:23 | JdGordon|w | so, i want to run this by the channel hoipefully while the others are asleep.... who thinks a HAVE_FLUFFY_GUI option would be a good thing, with viewports we have more flexibility with the screen but i know some stuff will be pointless on the small screen / b+w screen targets... would keeping two gui's going be impossible? |
| 00:40:05 | scorche|w | would viewports not be able to look the same as the old one? |
| 00:40:23 | JdGordon|w | it would |
| 00:40:33 | scorche|w | then why? |
| 00:40:52 | Llorean | I'm confused as to what you're suggesting. |
| 00:40:55 | JdGordon|w | but its the extra stuff which we havnt got yet which would be a big red delta on the "crap" targets |
| 00:41:56 | JdGordon|w | stuff like allowing wps+menu on the same screen, almost useless on the smaller targets, but i already know the code for that is going to be complicated and wated on say the archos |
| 00:41:58 | J-23 | Where can I download precompiled apps for Sansa c240? |
| 00:42:23 | Llorean | J-23: Rockbox includes all the official plugins. Beyond that, there isn't really anyone providing precompiled "apps" |
| 00:42:33 | Llorean | There are occasionally unsupported builds, but that's a whole Rockbox replacement |
| 00:43:02 | Llorean | JdGordon|w: I think that'd end up being more a feature-by-feature #ifdef than #ifdef HAVE_GUI_ADVANCED |
| 00:44:15 | Llorean | For example large icons might work on the c200 (the default firmware is basically a one item per screen list version of the e200 firmware) while menu-in-WPS would be unsuitable just because of the tiny, tiny screen size |
| 00:46:20 | JdGordon|w | true |
| 00:46:25 | JdGordon|w | that was the other option |
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| 00:46:36 | scorche|w | if you are keeping legacy systems around through ifdefs, why even roll out a new system?...i could see a fork, but if you are going to roll out a new system, then replace the old one on something with not much int he way of resources |
| 00:46:52 | Llorean | I can kinda see it going two ways |
| 00:46:59 | Llorean | Currently menus, filetree, *everything* are just a matter of lists. |
| 00:47:01 | * | JdGordon|w would love to see apps/ forked |
| 00:47:56 | JdGordon|w | but yeah, having one define for everything means we could possilby release 2 builds per target, although i think the big colour ones would just be the full gui anyway |
| 00:49:19 | JdGordon|w | big icons are actually one of the things I had in mind, along with a grid interface instead of the lists |
| 00:49:41 | Llorean | And see that's where it gets interesting |
| 00:49:51 | Llorean | The grid interface could still be a list behind the scenes, or it could not really be. |
| 00:50:09 | * | JdGordon|w thinks of his poor mr500 which hasnt been touched for ages |
| 00:50:10 | Llorean | Meaning, sorta, that you could have an algorithm that just takes the list that the normal UI uses and generates your grid UI |
| 00:50:20 | JdGordon|w | well thats the plan |
| 00:50:34 | Llorean | Basically, you could choose to, in a way, preserve compatibility with the old UI, which basically results in swappable systems, at a cost of flexibility |
| 00:50:35 | JdGordon|w | I want all gui elements to split the drawing code from the logic |
| 00:50:51 | Llorean | See, that sounds good to me. |
| 00:51:09 | J-23 | I've downloaded and unpacked to my Sansa c240 player newest version of Rockbox. I have tried to run brickmania... "Incompatible version" |
| 00:51:11 | JdGordon|w | the list does this enhough that a grid could be done relativly easily now, I think, using vp to scroll stuff properly |
| 00:51:13 | Llorean | So you can more easily tailor your graphical output to the target, without worrying about the logic beneath |
| 00:51:40 | JdGordon|w | having both would allow a grid on main screen and list on remote |
| 00:51:43 | Llorean | J-23: Then you didn't unpack it properly. Try deleting the .rockbox folder first (remember to back up any themes or .cfg files) |
| 00:54:48 | J-23 | Llorean: /config.cfg and /themes/*? |
| 00:55:07 | Llorean | J-23: Basically yes. Possibly your database files too, if you've generated a database |
| 00:55:20 | J-23 | I've backuped all. |
| 00:55:34 | J-23 | rm -rf .rockbox? |
| 00:55:58 | Llorean | J-23: Yes, then extract the new one |
| 00:56:46 | Llorean | JdGordon|w: It'd be neat if the UI was separated enough that it'd be relatively easy for patch authors to just write up new UIs (specifically, it'd be kinda neat to see unsupported builds that don't even look like Rockbox any more, with people *really* experimenting with UI design, since that's what we get a lot of complaints about) |
| 00:57:10 | Llorean | Despite the number of people who don't like the UIs, almost nobody has done much playing in methods for improving its actual usability other than you and I quibbling about button maps and such. :) |
| 00:57:20 | JdGordon|w | yeah, agreed |
| 00:57:59 | Llorean | I wouldn't go so far as to suggest list-rendering plugins, but making it easy enough to us #ifdefs to swap rendering methods would be neat. |
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| 01:00:36 | pikhq | |
| 01:00:37 | pikhq | What codecs will the iPod support? |
| 01:01:05 | Llorean | pikhq: All the ones Rockbox supports, though Monkey's Audio is too slow to really be usable |
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| 01:02:59 | nickv111 | Hey all. I just tried to upgrade Rockbox on my iPod, and I upgraded both the firmware and the software. However, now when I boot my third-generation iPod, I get a picture of a folder with a sign with an exclamation point in it and it doesn't boot |
| 01:03:25 | J-23 | Llorean: Now I can't run font browser... |
| 01:03:48 | Llorean | J-23: Re-install the fonts. |
| 01:04:08 | J-23 | Hmm... |
| 01:04:47 | Llorean | nickv111: What do you mean by "firmware and software". What exactly did you do? |
| 01:04:54 | nickv111 | I ran ipodpatcher |
| 01:05:08 | nickv111 | And I also unpacked the base and font zips |
| 01:05:40 | Llorean | So you updated the bootloader and Rockbox itself |
| 01:05:54 | Llorean | How had you previously installed the bootloader? |
| 01:06:02 | J-23 | Where are fonts? |
| 01:06:05 | J-23 | /fonts? |
| 01:06:10 | Llorean | J-23: On the extras wiki page. |
| 01:06:10 | nickv111 | I don't know |
| 01:06:14 | nickv111 | Llorean: I have no idea,. |
| 01:06:49 | billenium | nickvlll |
| 01:06:53 | billenium | this is the ipods error, not rockbox |
| 01:06:59 | Llorean | nickv111: The easiest solution is to boot your iPod into disk mode, and attempt to have iPodPatcher uninstall. This probably won't work, but if it does, is the best bet. |
| 01:07:01 | J-23 | Thanks! |
| 01:07:21 | billenium | http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61003 |
| 01:07:24 | billenium | its ipods fault |
| 01:07:25 | Llorean | nickv111: The most likely to work will be to have iTunes restore your iPod. This will remove all music, so you'll need to copy music back onto it, and reinstall Rockbox from scratch |
| 01:07:41 | nickv111 | Llorean: No problem. Thanks. |
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| 01:08:14 | Llorean | billenium: That error can mean a few different things, up to and including, "the hidden partition on the iPod's disk is corrupted" which can be caused by an improper installation of Rockbox, though it should be impossible to cause with iPodpatcher unless it is interrupted while writing, or otherwise forced to fail |
| 01:13:23 | nickv111 | Thanks, all. I gotta go |
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| 01:13:46 | J-23 | Is there calendar plugin for Sansa c200? |
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| 01:25:19 | DogBoy | trying to convert a nano to fat32, the instructions on the wiki talk about windows and mac but not linux |
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| 01:27:43 | krazykit | there's a "manual ipod restore" that will do it |
| 01:28:28 | DogBoy | heh, on windows |
| 01:28:58 | krazykit | so... what's the problem? |
| 01:29:09 | DogBoy | I don't use windows? |
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| 01:29:26 | krazykit | i thought you meant you were on windows. |
| 01:30:16 | krazykit | the manual conversion is the same for linux as the mac, except the filesystem command |
| 01:30:30 | DogBoy | there are two methods explained on the wiki, the "easy way" (windows) and the hard way (mac) |
| 01:30:34 | krazykit | and the /dev locations |
| 01:31:01 | krazykit | yes, the mac and linux methods are identical EXCEPT the /dev location naming and the part where you make the filesystem |
| 01:31:17 | DogBoy | newfs_msdos I can't seem to find anything about except for mac |
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| 01:31:39 | krazykit | mkfs.vfat -F 32 |
| 01:31:48 | krazykit | i believe. |
| 01:32:59 | Llorean | I think the preferred tool might actually be an open source tool named fat32format. I've heard it's a bit more reliable |
| 01:33:17 | J-23 | Why I haven't all listed in PluginIndex plugins in my player? |
| 01:33:39 | Llorean | J-23: Because people haven't finished converting all of them to the very, very tiny screen, and the few buttons? |
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| 01:34:43 | J-23 | Llorean: Can I help them? I don't know C... |
| 01:34:55 | Llorean | You'd need to learn C |
| 01:35:01 | Llorean | Or at least, some very basics of C |
| 01:35:09 | DogBoy | hehe, that seems to be a windows program Llorean |
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| 01:36:54 | J-23 | Llorean: Using stdout, stdin, functions, objects, including, # commands? |
| 01:38:02 | Llorean | DogBoy: Hm, I thought it was an open source little app |
| 01:38:48 | Llorean | J-23: Depends on the app you'd be modifying, and what needs to be done. You'd need to be able to read it, determine if it's just a question of keymap, needing new graphics (which someone would then have to draw), repositioning elements, etc. |
| 01:39:07 | Llorean | If you've taken a beginning C course, or read a book, it's probably enough for adapting the plugins unless there's something odd standing in the way |
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| 01:45:36 | J-23 | How can I compile plugins? |
| 01:52:25 | krazykit | install the toolchain, the instructions are on the wiki |
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| 01:53:11 | krazykit | J-23, read this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling |
| 01:53:40 | J-23 | Thanks. |
| 01:54:03 | J-23 | But on Linux? |
| 01:54:37 | krazykit | it's the same, except you don't set up cygwin |
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| 02:01:39 | billenium | woohoo for not setting up cygwin |
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| 02:06:44 | Topic | "Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | Let the betting pool for new ports during the next year begin! ;)" by scorche (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) |
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| 02:06:53 | scorche | =P |
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| 02:19:03 | psycho_maniac | I noticed when there is a new player that rockbox supports there is always a topic about creating a new ui when rockbox already has a wps and themes. |
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| 03:13:01 | DerDome | happy new year to all of you! |
| 03:14:34 | webguest97 | hi can anyone please help me. i want to convert a video for my ipod but its in a different language so i download the subtitles seperate (.str) is there a converter i can use to convert them "with the subs" so i can watch it on rockbox? |
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| 03:21:51 | webguest97 | Anyone know? Please help...please. :) |
| 03:23:00 | minifig904 | I think you'll want to ask in the community channel or on google... |
| 03:23:22 | minifig904 | Not that I'd know... |
| 03:23:41 | webguest97 | oh so...where can i ask? |
| 03:23:41 | hcs | webguest97: if you use mplayer/mencoder it will get the subs and include them in the converted video |
| 03:23:53 | hcs | I'm fairly certain vlc will, as well |
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| 03:24:50 | webguest97 | um...you mean vlc player? |
| 03:24:56 | hcs | webguest97: yes |
| 03:25:13 | hcs | assuming that it uses them when it plays normally |
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| 03:25:43 | monchevique | must be the ipod on disk mode to insall it |
| 03:25:53 | monchevique | ???? |
| 03:25:53 | monchevique | heeelp!!! |
| 03:25:59 | monchevique | or normal |
| 03:26:18 | psycho_maniac | it has to be in disk mode |
| 03:26:18 | hcs | monchevique: either, but disk mode is recommended |
| 03:26:38 | webguest97 | um let me check the mpeg player page thanks. :) |
| 03:27:55 | monchevique | cuz i cant install it i have restored it recently |
| 03:28:00 | monchevique | is a 5.5 |
| 03:28:17 | webguest97 | hey i have the winiff will that do it? |
| 03:28:23 | monchevique | must i killl a process |
| 03:28:27 | monchevique | ipodservice |
| 03:28:41 | webguest97 | i like it because it's pretty fast and i don't know how to use vlc to convert. |
| 03:29:04 | monchevique | why does it say ipod not found |
| 03:29:11 | monchevique | if i have closed itunes |
| 03:29:24 | monchevique | whats the problem?? |
| 03:29:53 | minifig904 | webguest97: for vlc, you set the playback options, and tell it to stream/output to a file. You may have to look in the advanced options. |
| 03:30:01 | hcs | monchevique: is it in disk mode? |
| 03:30:04 | monchevique | any suggestions |
| 03:30:06 | monchevique | yes |
| 03:30:23 | monchevique | and then i connect it and close itunes |
| 03:30:30 | monchevique | and then i execute |
| 03:30:34 | monchevique | rockbox |
| 03:30:37 | monchevique | the installer |
| 03:31:02 | hcs | can you see the ipod as a drive in My Computer? |
| 03:31:04 | monchevique | i dont understand |
| 03:31:13 | monchevique | no |
| 03:31:16 | monchevique | i can see |
| 03:31:22 | monchevique | the usb |
| 03:31:25 | monchevique | i cant |
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| 03:31:28 | monchevique | see |
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| 03:31:44 | monchevique | no |
| 03:31:51 | monchevique | on mode disk |
| 03:31:52 | monchevique | i cant |
| 03:31:56 | monchevique | but normal |
| 03:31:58 | monchevique | yes i do |
| 03:32:01 | hcs | monchevique: please try pressing enter less |
| 03:32:04 | webguest97 | sorry i logged out by accident let me try |
| 03:32:29 | monchevique | whats the main problem so?? |
| 03:33:01 | hcs | monchevique: I don't know. Hopefully someone else will notice shortly and be able to help you. |
| 03:33:39 | monchevique | cuz i wanted to install it on linux, cuz for me its easier |
| 03:33:50 | monchevique | but its exactly the same problem with the driver |
| 03:33:59 | monchevique | fucking drivers!!! |
| 03:34:05 | scorche | what driver? |
| 03:34:14 | psycho_maniac | monchevique: you dont need a driver for your player. |
| 03:34:27 | monchevique | the machine doesnt recognizes the ipod |
| 03:34:50 | advcomp2019 | monchevique, are you in rockbox when you get this |
| 03:35:26 | monchevique | mmm |
| 03:35:41 | monchevique | no first i connect the ipod and then i open rockbox |
| 03:35:45 | monchevique | the executable |
| 03:36:03 | krazykit | rbutil? |
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| 03:39:26 | soap | does anyone have a nice script to build for all targets and make nice-named zip files in the process? |
| 03:39:49 | hcs | soap: I have the first half |
| 03:40:03 | monchevique | is it normal if i cant see the icon usb, when i conect the ipod?? |
| 03:40:15 | soap | so it makes for all targets, what is the finished product if it doesn't rename the .zip files? |
| 03:40:42 | monchevique | :-$ anyone |
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| 03:41:00 | hcs | soap: rockbox-full.zip files in the build directories |
| 03:41:01 | psycho_maniac | monchevique: when somebody can help you they will answer you. |
| 03:41:13 | monchevique | and what about u |
| 03:41:14 | monchevique | ? |
| 03:41:17 | monchevique | can u help me?? |
| 03:41:29 | hcs | soap: http://pastebin.ca/840592 |
| 03:41:34 | soap | you're the man |
| 03:41:45 | hcs | (course you have to specify the build numbers at the top there" |
| 03:42:30 | soap | and if I select the iPod video (is there another one with a secondary question) ? |
| 03:42:30 | psycho_maniac | monchevique: i didnt answer your question before so obviously i cannot help you just sit patiently |
| 03:43:11 | hcs | soap: then it won't work |
| 03:43:13 | advcomp2019 | monchevique, are you in rockbox because rockbox does not have usb support yet so you need to boot into the disk mode on the ipod if i am reading the manual right |
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| 03:43:53 | psycho_maniac | correct and when you plug in your player to the computer while in rockbox it automatically goes to the emergency disk mode in the ipod OF |
| 03:43:54 | soap | thanks for the script - I think I might use it as a jumping-off point. |
| 03:44:12 | monchevique | i have had the ipod on disk mode |
| 03:44:19 | psycho_maniac | soap: just curious, what you going to use this for? |
| 03:44:19 | monchevique | and it didnt work anyway |
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| 03:44:36 | monchevique | thats weirdo |
| 03:44:53 | psycho_maniac | that didnt answer the question |
| 03:45:09 | psycho_maniac | ok i read the room wrong silly me |
| 03:45:17 | soap | psycho_maniac, I was going to build a matching set of player builds to complement the simulator builds rasher did including the viewport patch. |
| 03:45:57 | psycho_maniac | ;O a viewport patch? |
| 03:46:10 | monchevique | does it answer u question advcomp |
| 03:46:11 | monchevique | ??? |
| 03:46:16 | monchevique | your |
| 03:46:30 | soap | psycho_maniac, indeed - linuxstb has it nearly complete |
| 03:46:36 | soap | working code in the patch tracker. |
| 03:46:48 | soap | working sims on rasher's site |
| 03:46:55 | psycho_maniac | may i have the Fs number |
| 03:47:02 | soap | rasher.dk/rockbox/viewports/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/viewports/ |
| 03:47:12 | soap | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8385 |
| 03:47:43 | advcomp2019 | monchevique, yea.. you might want to wait or look on the forums |
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| 03:48:29 | monchevique | i think that its problem of my computer |
| 03:48:39 | monchevique | i dont know |
| 03:48:45 | monchevique | very weird my problem |
| 03:48:56 | monchevique | :-X |
| 03:49:02 | psycho_maniac | itunes sometimes hides the actual drive in "my computer" |
| 03:49:16 | monchevique | yeah is the fucking itunes |
| 03:49:43 | monchevique | i think i should install it in a computer which doesnt have itunes |
| 03:49:59 | psycho_maniac | and stop swearing also |
| 03:49:59 | monchevique | is it a better option richt? |
| 03:50:03 | krazykit | monchevique, foul language isn't necessary. this IS a support channel. please try to be civil |
| 03:50:14 | monchevique | im civilizated |
| 03:50:31 | monchevique | what must i do, to wear a heat |
| 03:50:34 | monchevique | to plary |
| 03:50:36 | monchevique | pray |
| 03:50:39 | advcomp2019 | monchevique, please read the guidelines too |
| 03:50:50 | monchevique | ooooh, besides of that |
| 03:50:52 | | Quit toffe82_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 03:50:54 | monchevique | and what else |
| 03:51:02 | monchevique | must i donate |
| 03:51:09 | psycho_maniac | and stop pressing enter so much |
| 03:51:14 | monchevique | what else to be civilizated |
| 03:51:20 | monchevique | ooh besides of that |
| 03:51:26 | monchevique | what else?? |
| 03:51:29 | psycho_maniac | umm read the guidelines like advcomp2019 |
| 03:53:08 | minifig904 | I'm running the most recent Rockbox daily (updated an hour ago at most) on a 4th gen iPod B+W. I've got all my music rated in the iPod's built-in DB, if Amarok and RhythmBox are any indicator, but it looks like Rockbox's DB has no ratings. Checked the manual and the wiki, but I didn't find any information there. Is importing rating from the iPod DB not supported, or did I miss something? |
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| 03:53:32 | monchevique | mm i think that i should have killed the process of ipodservice and itunes, now i can see the usb icon |
| 03:53:35 | krazykit | minifig904, the rockbox database and the itunes database are completely seperate |
| 03:53:44 | minifig904 | right |
| 03:54:09 | monchevique | did i do fine?? |
| 03:54:50 | krazykit | and rockbox doesn't touch the itunes database. i think there's a program on the wiki that can do something with the itunesDB, but i don't know if it's even in a functional state. |
| 03:55:09 | minifig904 | Hm, ok, I'll check again. |
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| 03:55:13 | monchevique | it doesnt work anyway, fu ck!! |
| 03:55:16 | monchevique | im sad |
| 03:55:46 | scorche | monchevique: seriously...read the guildelines and start following them |
| 03:55:59 | monchevique | what for, i hate rules |
| 03:56:02 | psycho_maniac | monchevique: see how minifig904 wrote all his information on one line and didnt use the enter button over 2 times? try doing that. |
| 03:56:17 | monchevique | ooh and what a waste of time he did |
| 03:56:22 | monchevique | xD |
| 03:56:22 | monchevique | xD |
| 03:56:25 | scorche | monchevique: either you follow the rules or you leave |
| 03:56:30 | monchevique | ok |
| 03:56:30 | advcomp2019 | monchevique, please read the guidelines like scorche said and i said earlier |
| 03:57:26 | minifig904 | krazykit: Yeah, found one such program, but it needs updating; it was from when the DB was called "Tag Cache" |
| 03:57:27 | monchevique | it says, blah blah, blah, and BLAH!!!! |
| 03:58:03 | scorche | monchevique: last warning |
| 03:59:00 | monchevique | o:-) |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:35 | monchevique | who is the boss from here |
| 04:00:37 | monchevique | ?? |
| 04:00:47 | scorche | what does it matter? |
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| 04:00:55 | monchevique | a lot |
| 04:01:21 | monchevique | u asked why, and i tell you why |
| 04:01:23 | monchevique | xDD |
| 04:02:00 | minifig904 | I didn't find any other programs in the wiki (searched: "ipod DB"), I assume that one was the only support? |
| 04:03:04 | hcs | minifig904: yeah, I had written that a while bad and it was never updated |
| 04:03:10 | hcs | *back, sorry |
| 04:03:44 | scorche | monchevique: it does not matter who the "boss" is around here...the rules are not dependent upon if an op is around...really...please read the rules and follow them |
| 04:03:57 | monchevique | hahaha |
| 04:04:00 | monchevique | dont make me laugh |
| 04:04:06 | scorche | what is so funny? |
| 04:04:37 | monchevique | whats not so funny? |
| 04:04:45 | monchevique | question, questions and question |
| 04:05:01 | minifig904 | np. Oh well. I'll have to work on it later. I'm no great shakes with C, but I'll let you guys know if I manage to get anything useful. |
| 04:05:46 | minifig904 | Thanks much, maybe I'll see everyone later... |
| 04:06:17 | monchevique | i guess scorche that ure the host |
| 04:06:24 | monchevique | how did u get the power |
| 04:06:26 | monchevique | !!! |
| 04:06:33 | monchevique | gimme the power |
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| 04:06:43 | Shaid | What are you, 12? |
| 04:07:48 | monchevique | to ban everybody from here, cuz nobody is hepling |
| 04:07:51 | monchevique | xDD |
| 04:07:56 | monchevique | hepling |
| 04:08:02 | Mode | "#rockbox +o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 04:08:03 | Mode | "#rockbox +b %*!*@201.163.76.110 " by scorche (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) |
| 04:08:28 | scorche | 10 minute mute...please use this time to go over the IRC guidelines and see what you can change... |
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| 04:17:25 | soap | rasher, are you using version 4 of linuxstb's viewports patch for your simulator builds? |
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| 04:19:06 | monchevique | mmm |
| 04:19:17 | monchevique | what does PMed mean, and i will leave |
| 04:19:45 | soap | private messaged |
| 04:19:47 | scorche | private message...it is what you went and pestered me in after i muted you |
| 04:20:35 | monchevique | post meridian |
| 04:20:36 | monchevique | ok |
| 04:20:40 | monchevique | see you soon |
| 04:20:43 | monchevique | gringos |
| 04:20:46 | monchevique | locos |
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| 04:20:55 | psycho_maniac | i doubt it |
| 04:21:33 | Mode | "#rockbox +b *!?=jimmy@201.163.76.110 " by scorche (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) |
| 04:21:40 | scorche | i do too |
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| 04:24:08 | psycho_maniac | was the discussion of viewports on the forums? ive never known about the development only on the GSOC pages. |
| 04:24:55 | scorche | it has been all over IRC |
| 04:26:28 | psycho_maniac | probably when im not on |
| 04:27:13 | scorche | http://www.google.com/search?q=viewports+site%3Awww.rockbox.org%2Firc |
| 04:28:45 | psycho_maniac | thanks |
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| 04:40:51 | WeaponX | hello |
| 04:42:11 | WeaponX | i was here before and someone gave me a link to a site where i can get the MBR for a 5.5g |
| 04:42:12 | WeaponX | ipod |
| 04:43:44 | krazykit | WeaponX, you could check the IRC logs. |
| 04:44:10 | WeaponX | i dont keep logs |
| 04:44:27 | krazykit | lucky for you rockbox does. |
| 04:44:54 | krazykit | http://www.rockbox.org/irc/ |
| 04:45:05 | WeaponX | oh awesome |
| 04:46:10 | daniel_washere | Im attempting to compile rockbox for my iPod Nano, however since im using a later version of gcc (4.1.0+) i need to specify "−−enable-libssp=no" as a configure option. |
| 04:46:23 | daniel_washere | But it doesnt seem to be working and still fails on compile.. |
| 04:46:49 | WeaponX | thank you krazykit |
| 04:46:54 | scorche | daniel_washere: there are reasons we specify a version as the "recommended version" ;) |
| 04:47:39 | daniel_washere | ohh i see :P (heh its been a while?) i guess l`ll have to go remove and install that one. |
| 04:47:40 | daniel_washere | thanks. |
| 04:48:00 | scorche | we have a handy script in svn that will build the crosscompilers for you |
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| 04:49:00 | daniel_washere | sweet, i`ll check it out now. |
| 04:49:23 | scorche | rockboxdev.sh in the tools folder...you can find a lot of this sort of dev information by clicking "index" on the sidebar of the site, then "For Developers" in the TOC |
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| 04:50:30 | daniel_washere | Ah! thanks :D... one of the SVN checkouts about iPod USB made me want to muck around with rockbox :P |
| 04:51:00 | scorche | yeah...i recognize you from "a similar project" =P |
| 04:51:15 | daniel_washere | hahaha |
| 04:52:13 | psycho_maniac | the viewport sims: Do they have the wps that uses the viewports code? |
| 04:54:20 | krazykit | there's the WPS that's attached |
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| 04:55:13 | psycho_maniac | in the sims zip files? or are you talking about in FS |
| 04:56:03 | krazykit | the flyspray entry. the sims are, presumably, just like the standard sim package you'd download |
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| 06:09:25 | billenium | Happy New Years from East USA! |
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| 06:10:27 | countrymonkeyweb | Happy new year. I just came in to see if moos was on but he apparantly is not. |
| 06:10:37 | countrymonkeyweb | I have some news about the patch |
| 06:12:41 | countrymonkeyweb | Why cannot I get in to #rockbox-community? |
| 06:13:01 | krazykit | that's off-topic. |
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| 06:14:30 | scorche | countrymonkeyweb: the rockbox irc client is limited to only #rockbox |
| 06:14:57 | countrymonkeyweb | I am using irc at work to try. It sais freenode is down, but I know that ain't right. |
| 06:26:17 | countrymonkeyweb | If any of you are on when moos joins and I am not present, can you all tell him that 8369 is ready for committing? |
| 06:32:19 | billenium | rockbox irc client? |
| 06:32:32 | countrymonkeyweb | Yes. |
| 06:33:11 | billenium | what is that? |
| 06:33:57 | krazykit | click "irc" on rockbox.org |
| 06:37:12 | billenium | huh |
| 06:37:15 | billenium | dokay |
| 06:37:17 | billenium | cool |
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| 07:02:07 | scharkalvin | happy new year everybody! |
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| 07:06:36 | countrymonkeyweb | Question do you have? |
| 07:08:13 | countrymonkeyweb | Do you have a question? |
| 07:11:12 | billenium | countrymonkeyweb: English is not your first language? |
| 07:11:41 | krazykit | billenium, how is that even remotely on-topic? |
| 07:12:22 | billenium | how is what you just said on topic? how is what im saying right now on topic? |
| 07:12:43 | krazykit | topicality is on-topic. |
| 07:12:51 | billenium | Are you sure? |
| 07:12:54 | krazykit | yes. |
| 07:12:57 | billenium | oh |
| 07:12:58 | billenium | cool |
| 07:13:01 | billenium | brb pasta |
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| 07:13:25 | dmt2 | yo |
| 07:13:28 | dmt2 | i need some help |
| 07:13:56 | * | scorche looks into the crystal ball |
| 07:13:57 | dmt2 | does rockbox work with the dock on a stereo |
| 07:14:06 | scorche | that depends ont he dock |
| 07:14:09 | dmt2 | will it take commands |
| 07:14:14 | dmt2 | its the one in my car. |
| 07:14:18 | scorche | commands such as what? |
| 07:14:20 | dmt2 | some kind of pioneer head |
| 07:14:21 | minifig904 | iPod dock? |
| 07:14:26 | dmt2 | came with my car. |
| 07:14:44 | dmt2 | i can control the ipod from the stereo/steering wheel |
| 07:14:47 | scorche | dmt2: if it accesses the ipod as a hard drive, then it will work...if it uses the apple accessory protocol, it wont |
| 07:15:06 | billenium | most use the hard drive i believe |
| 07:15:09 | dmt2 | it browses folders on the stereo... |
| 07:15:12 | dmt2 | yeah... |
| 07:15:14 | dmt2 | hmm. |
| 07:15:21 | dmt2 | no way rto find out except to ry i guess. |
| 07:15:27 | scorche | pretty much |
| 07:15:38 | dmt2 | i hope it works |
| 07:15:45 | dmt2 | the stupid stereo fucks up on random... |
| 07:15:56 | dmt2 | it gets confused when there are too many songs.... |
| 07:16:06 | dmt2 | like it cant handle 10000 songs on random... |
| 07:16:15 | scorche | well, i cant do anything about that, and it is getting offtopic.. |
| 07:16:17 | dmt2 | it just refuses to start the next song. |
| 07:16:20 | dmt2 | haha |
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| 07:16:21 | dmt2 | i guess |
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| 07:16:29 | dmt2 | i was hoping that rock box might help. |
| 07:17:14 | minifig904 | Try it. Let us know. |
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| 07:18:01 | dmt2 | you got it. |
| 07:18:07 | dmt2 | ill let you know soon enough, |
| 07:18:10 | dmt2 | peace |
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| 07:19:06 | minifig904 | Hm, the database cache files are binary, aren't they? |
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| 07:38:46 | minifig904 | Is the database cache file format documented somewhere? Sorry, I apparently suck at reading C code... |
| 07:39:48 | minifig904 | I searched the wiki already, but found nothing. |
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| 08:17:21 | soap | Join the folding @ home team Rockbox - # 99936 |
| 08:17:36 | scorche | team of one? |
| 08:17:40 | soap | yep! |
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| 08:30:03 | csc` | lol soap, you could always make a plugin for folding@home, then f@h would have an army of ipods slaving away folding proteins |
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| 10:06:26 | GodEater | are the forums working at the moment ? I'm getting nothing but a blank page when I try to check them... |
| 10:06:57 | Llorean | When I try to check, my browser attempts to download index.php instead of view it |
| 10:07:02 | Llorean | So no, they're not working properly at the moment. |
| 10:07:12 | GodEater | ah - good - at least it's not just me |
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| 10:08:16 | Llorean | I think it's the old sluggishness, I've gotten this kinda behaviour when it was sluggish back then |
| 10:08:28 | GodEater | first time I've seen it |
| 10:08:50 | GodEater | it always either no response, or "SMF Encountered problems connecting to the database. Please try later" |
| 10:09:16 | * | GodEater is keen to get home and try out some Viewport goodness |
| 10:10:54 | GodEater | although with my PC currently dead, it means compiling on the PS3 =/ |
| 10:11:42 | scorche | heh... |
| 10:12:26 | GodEater | are we still waiting for people to exit 2007? Or are most people in 2008 now ? |
| 10:12:28 | GodEater | :) |
| 10:14:27 | Llorean | I think we're down to people floating in the ocean, mostly? |
| 10:14:49 | GodEater | happy new year then guys! |
| 10:14:50 | scorche | and coral |
| 10:19:53 | GodEater | anyone seen / mentioned this ? http://code.google.com/p/arcwelder/ ? |
| 10:20:16 | Llorean | I was going to ask about that. |
| 10:20:21 | Llorean | But hadn't gotten around to reading the logs yet |
| 10:20:50 | scorche | same...i was planning on reading more into it tomorrow |
| 10:21:04 | GodEater | I didn't see it on the read through I did of today's stuff |
| 10:21:12 | GodEater | but wasn't sure how "new" the /. article was |
| 10:21:20 | Llorean | Same here |
| 10:21:26 | GodEater | might make an interesting target :) |
| 10:21:30 | Llorean | I'd been at a new years party-ish thing, and just got back, to see it in my reader |
| 10:22:21 | * | GodEater hasn't had any sleep yet since NYE |
| 10:23:35 | GodEater | there's the 160GB Rockbox target ppl want :) |
| 10:23:57 | * | scorche already had a 160 GB rockbox target till the hard drive died... |
| 10:24:25 | GodEater | are they 2.5" drives in these archoses ? |
| 10:24:38 | Llorean | I do find those Archoses interesting doodads. |
| 10:24:42 | GodEater | I've not seen one of these in the flesh so I've no idea how large they are |
| 10:24:46 | * | scorche would like to get some time for the av300 port so he can play flac on a 160GB player |
| 10:24:48 | Llorean | They're moderately big |
| 10:24:51 | Llorean | Giant screen on 'em |
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| 10:25:04 | GodEater | 2.5" big though ? |
| 10:25:11 | Llorean | Coulda been |
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| 10:25:25 | Llorean | I saw it through glass, so I'm not sure about the thickness and heft. |
| 10:25:41 | GodEater | I'll have to take myself off to a shop and have a looksee |
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| 10:25:56 | Llorean | GodEater: Looks too thin: http://gizmologia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/archos605wifi.jpg |
| 10:26:22 | GodEater | it does indeed |
| 10:26:46 | * | GodEater 's g/f has just surfaced. Gotta go chaps - speak to you later hopefully. Have a nice day ;) |
| 10:26:50 | Llorean | Cya |
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| 11:01:54 | csc` | rockbox has a rather large repository |
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| 11:20:20 | * | pixelma wishes all a Happy New Year |
| 11:20:59 | csc` | hiya pixelma |
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| 11:31:13 | BigBambi | linuxstb: there? |
| 11:32:16 | BigBambi | back in a min |
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| 12:22:11 | BigBambi | Can I edit my own flyspray comments? |
| 12:22:14 | markun | pixelma: you too! |
| 12:22:47 | BigBambi | Or can anyone edit it for me? |
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| 12:52:19 | Rukkh | quick question, Rockbox supports ID3 v2.4 across the board? and what kind of text encodings UTF8? UTF16? the basic one? |
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| 12:56:52 | pixelma | BigBambi: I think you can edit your own but if you have trouble let me know... |
| 12:57:06 | BigBambi | pixelma: I can't see anywhere to do it |
| 12:58:22 | BigBambi | pixelma: My comment on the end of http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8385, doesn't need that file attached as it is on the wiki, and I should have said that the WPS I adapted was for gigabeat |
| 12:58:50 | pixelma | hmm... maybe that's something you can't see... |
| 12:59:14 | BigBambi | I have no flyspray rights at all |
| 12:59:29 | BigBambi | Just a normal user, so I guess any sort of editing is out |
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| 13:16:42 | pixelma | someone remembers exactly how to deal with the PluginIndex site when adding a new target? Do I remember correctly that it needed adding a new column to the table on there and then editing all the PluginXyz pages (add the new target to the supported list at the end)? |
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| 13:21:10 | Crash91 | is sin/cos/tan in c really as simple as doing math.sin? |
| 13:22:40 | obo | the math.* functions are floating point - AFAIK all bar one of the rockbox targets are fixed point only |
| 13:23:14 | obo | but maybe have a look in apps/plugins/lib/fixedpoint.c? |
| 13:24:36 | Crash91 | k, will do, im learning C, and well i thought why not contribute to RB in some way :) |
| 13:24:53 | markun | Rukkh: UTF-8 and UTF-16 should both be supported |
| 13:25:05 | markun | if it doesn't work it shouldn't be difficult to fix |
| 13:25:18 | markun | did you have any problems with it? |
| 13:28:10 | Rukkh | not that i know of, I've just spent a few hours convincing my id3 tagger and amarok to play nice such that i could set up a few tags to make my albums work in rockbox |
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| 13:29:00 | Rukkh | i figured i should check that the 2.4 formats did all work properly before i got too carried away |
| 13:29:06 | hdfdisk | Hi |
| 13:29:14 | hdfdisk | I can't connect to forum now, anyone can? |
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| 13:31:16 | Phoenix_ | Anybody have a iPod's sncviewer? |
| 13:31:22 | Phoenix_ | I can't connect to the forum now |
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| 13:31:47 | Rukkh | now if only rockbox read the "disc" tag and i could keep all my mulitple cd's in the same dir without track interleaving or renumbering...i'd be very happy - but i suspect i'm just spoilt by my fancy pc players |
| 13:32:00 | Rukkh | hdfdisk, I also had forum access issues |
| 13:32:20 | hdfdisk | Rukkh, do you have a ipod sncviewer? |
| 13:32:25 | Crash91 | yep its a blank page |
| 13:32:30 | Rukkh | nope |
| 13:32:56 | Rukkh | in fact i don't own an ipod, nor know what an sncviewer is |
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| 13:34:09 | hdfdisk | sncviewer is a plugin which use for display the lyrics real-time |
| 13:34:28 | Crash91 | hdfdisk: why dont you look in the tracker? youll have to compile yourself, |
| 13:34:55 | hdfdisk | could you tell me how to compile? |
| 13:35:39 | Crash91 | hdfdisk: what OS are you using |
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| 13:35:50 | hdfdisk | Mac OS X |
| 13:36:07 | hdfdisk | I Also have a Windows PC |
| 13:36:19 | Crash91 | hmm, i dont think you can compile on mac |
| 13:36:38 | Crash91 | hdfdisk: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide |
| 13:37:24 | Crash91 | hdfdisk: you would probably be better off using a patched ipod build from someone else on the forums |
| 13:37:35 | BigBambi | You an compile on Mac just fine |
| 13:37:36 | Crash91 | hdfdisk: i know the forums are down, so try anythingbutipod.com |
| 13:38:17 | hdfdisk | OK i'm searching |
| 13:41:35 | Crash91 | ok, noob question: whats the big difference between C and C# |
| 13:41:53 | BigBambi | Crash91: You are better off asking google that |
| 13:42:16 | Crash91 | google is the answer on everyones lips :) |
| 13:42:38 | BigBambi | It is off topic here, and would take quite a few (pointless) lines to answer |
| 13:42:59 | BigBambi | Google will provide you with a ready made answer |
| 13:43:58 | markun | Crash91: I would say the difference between C and C# is about as big as the one between C and Java |
| 13:46:21 | Crash91 | ok, im off to learn C |
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| 14:18:43 | Crash91 | i was just reading calculator.c and there is a fully working sci calc implemented.....how do i access it? |
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| 14:22:59 | Crash91 | tried the manual, and im not sure, but i think the plugins section for the e200 got wiped: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansae200/rockbox-buildch10.html#x13-13800010 |
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| 14:24:18 | linuxstb | Crash91: Hmm, maybe there's a problem - the Brickmania manual section was changed recently, and that's the last plugin listed... |
| 14:24:29 | Crash91 | yep |
| 14:24:31 | * | linuxstb looks at pixelma |
| 14:24:57 | linuxstb | And BTW, happy new year to everyone here that's celebrating it. |
| 14:26:32 | Crash91 | linuxstb: to you too |
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| 14:34:53 | pixelma | weird... I testcompiled quite a bit before... |
| 14:35:55 | pixelma | will have a look of course |
| 14:36:23 | linuxstb | Maybe it's just the e200 - others seem fine... |
| 14:37:15 | linuxstb | Yes, it just seems to be the e200 manual - it stops during the brickmania section. |
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| 14:40:20 | linuxstb | Ah, does the Sansa have the ButtonScrollFwd and ButtonScrollBack macros? |
| 14:40:40 | linuxstb | They should be Up/Down... |
| 14:40:59 | pixelma | hmph... probably |
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| 14:45:19 | countrymonkeyweb | Moos: I have news about fs#8369 |
| 14:48:08 | countrymonkeyweb | moos? Are you here? |
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| 15:09:08 | preglow | linuxstb: nice to see a viewports implementation :) |
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| 15:10:45 | countrymonkeyweb | Preglo, I remember you speak norsk. Could you please verify 8369. I know moos is athe person asigned to the task but I can't get a hold of him. |
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| 15:16:07 | moos | hello there and happy new year |
| 15:16:35 | preglow | countrymonkeyweb: i will when i have the time, it's on my list |
| 15:16:42 | moos | countrymonkeyweb: you don't speak norsk yourself ??? |
| 15:16:51 | * | amiconn needs to save some IRAM on archos somehow :/ |
| 15:17:01 | preglow | amiconn: why? |
| 15:17:42 | amiconn | I now have a core function for my new greyscale lib, but when compiling it in, it exceeds IRAM space by 36 bytes |
| 15:18:02 | amiconn | That functions *needs* to be in iram |
| 15:18:04 | preglow | optimize it :-) |
| 15:18:18 | amiconn | It already is optimised |
| 15:18:35 | amiconn | So I need to cut somewhere else |
| 15:18:36 | preglow | yeah, i kind of expected it was, heh |
| 15:18:57 | * | moos isn't suprised neither :) |
| 15:18:59 | countrymonkeyweb | No way. I took it up as a little thing. It doesn't take very much skill to copy over the dest string into the voice string. I took it up because I had time to kill. |
| 15:19:08 | preglow | Buschel: have you hooked your ipod up to an amperemeter now? |
| 15:19:26 | amiconn | I even found a very slight optimisation for the existing lcd_write_data() function |
| 15:19:29 | Buschel | preglow: no. but I need test support by someone who has :o) |
| 15:20:23 | moos | countrymonkeyweb: better to lets a native speaker check the patch first |
| 15:20:32 | preglow | Buschel: don't think too many have :P how did you find the power consumption, then? |
| 15:20:55 | Buschel | preglow: runtime tests and calculating then |
| 15:21:00 | countrymonkeyweb | O.K. Moos: Do you speak norsk? |
| 15:21:06 | Buschel | preglow: quite time consuming... |
| 15:21:19 | moos | countrmonkeyweb: not that I know of ;) |
| 15:21:46 | Buschel | anyone here who is deep into the freq-scaling stuff? |
| 15:21:56 | countrymonkeyweb | MethoS- |
| 15:21:56 | countrymonkeyweb | midg |
| 15:22:12 | MethoS- | ? |
| 15:22:40 | preglow | Buschel: i can imagine... |
| 15:22:54 | preglow | Buschel: i know how it works, why? |
| 15:23:23 | countrymonkeyweb | Looks like we need either mukkurkalve or preglo to check it. |
| 15:23:34 | Buschel | preglow: why is DEV_TIMING1 set two time when setting FREQ_MAX? first to x303 afterwards to x808. |
| 15:24:59 | amiconn | (the slight optimisation only speeds things up by ~1.2% - but it also saves an instruction in iram) |
| 15:25:01 | pixelma | if someone sees a "swede" around today (Bagder_?), maybe ask if he can trigger a rebuild of the manuals. The e200 should compile alright now - at least it did here... |
| 15:25:04 | Buschel | preglow: it came with change #15134 |
| 15:25:34 | preglow | Buschel: hmm, i haven't seen that before |
| 15:25:49 | amiconn | Buschel: Iirc that's for stability - best ask jhMikeS |
| 15:25:49 | countrymonkeyweb | What do you mean by a Swede? |
| 15:26:27 | moos | countrymonkeyweb: for your patch, better to provide a .diff or .patch file, instead of the full .lang file |
| 15:26:28 | Buschel | amiconn: thanks. is he the one who did the main stuff in the scaling? |
| 15:26:39 | pixelma | countrymonkeyweb: one of the site admins |
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| 15:27:14 | amiconn | The first part was done by me. Then jhMikeS fixed some further problems which popped up during his scheduler work |
| 15:27:49 | Buschel | so I may ask you as well :o) |
| 15:27:53 | preglow | the first part was done by me from the ipl source, afaik |
| 15:27:56 | countrymonkeyweb | I thought you ment a swede like a person of the nationality of Sweedish. And moos, I couldn't get the silly thing to patch. |
| 15:28:18 | Buschel | preglow/amiconn: so, two experst around - perfect! |
| 15:28:23 | Buschel | *experts |
| 15:28:27 | preglow | not exactly an expert... |
| 15:29:32 | pixelma | countrymonkeyweb: well... the admins are from (and in) Sweden... |
| 15:29:34 | BigBambi | countrymonkeyweb: He did |
| 15:29:37 | preglow | hmm, i could have sworn there was some MrH doc around describing some of those registers... |
| 15:29:48 | BigBambi | pixelma: Beaten again! |
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| 15:30:07 | countrymonkeyweb | I didn't know that. |
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| 15:30:21 | luckz | forums down? |
| 15:30:25 | BigBambi | yes |
| 15:30:33 | Buschel | yesterday I tried to use 24MHz without PLL as "normal" and keep the 80MHz as "max" clock. I wanted to check what influence (in terms of power consumption) the PLL has. after doing so the unit freezed after ~1h... |
| 15:31:18 | preglow | weird |
| 15:31:20 | pixelma | BigBambi: if you mean me, it should have been "she did" though ;) |
| 15:31:50 | BigBambi | pixelma: I know, but I couldn't remember who originally said Swede so I took a punt |
| 15:31:55 | BigBambi | and lost :/ |
| 15:31:56 | Buschel | and 1h is not enough to estimate the power consumption... |
| 15:33:49 | countrymonkeyweb | We cannot see you through the irc! We have to sort of guess at these things. |
| 15:35:06 | countrymonkeyweb | Please cut some slack. (Maybe I am just mad because I was kicked from #rockbox-community for hating icecream and pizza a few days ago) |
| 15:35:20 | lassesdatamaskin | lol :P |
| 15:35:49 | countrymonkeyweb | What are you laughing about? |
| 15:36:52 | lassesdatamaskin | you being kicked from rockbox-community for hating icecream and pizza |
| 15:36:56 | | Part luckz |
| 15:37:33 | countrymonkeyweb | THere is nothing funny about it. And after that, they wanted to celebrate me being kicked. |
| 15:38:53 | countrymonkeyweb | And I do hate icecream and pizza! |
| 15:39:09 | BigBambi | countrymonkeyweb: This is off topic, but it was a humorous kick, a *gasp* joke. You can go back in anytime you like. |
| 15:39:09 | idnar | did tehy have icecreame and pizza to celebrate? |
| 15:39:47 | countrymonkeyweb | understood |
| 15:41:26 | * | amiconn found that MAXTHREADS can be cut by one on archos :) |
| 15:41:33 | countrymonkeyweb | And they did have icecream, iirc. |
| 15:41:52 | soap | countrymonkeyweb, please remain on topic in this logged channel. |
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| 16:36:58 | soap | BigBambi, did you get viewports v4 to compile for the gigabeat? |
| 16:37:03 | soap | I can not. |
| 16:37:09 | BigBambi | soap v4.2 |
| 16:37:31 | BigBambi | linuxstb put it on his website yesterday, but he hasn't attached it to flyspray yet |
| 16:37:41 | BigBambi | I forgot to mention that on the wiki |
| 16:37:44 | soap | ok, I used 4.1 |
| 16:37:56 | BigBambi | one mo, I'll find it |
| 16:38:11 | BigBambi | can I dcc you? |
| 16:38:18 | soap | `I'm passive |
| 16:38:26 | soap | but other that than, it's ok |
| 16:38:41 | BigBambi | I'll try (I don't know whether it works this end either) |
| 16:38:45 | soap | so I think you will need to be in active mode. |
| 16:39:03 | linuxstb | It's at http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/viewports-v4.2.diff |
| 16:39:09 | BigBambi | there we gp |
| 16:39:20 | BigBambi | that is easier! |
| 16:40:47 | soap | linuxstb, what is the difference with 4.2? Just a fix for gigabeat, or should I remake all my builds? |
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| 16:41:03 | linuxstb | Just the gigabeat target fix. |
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| 16:41:34 | linuxstb | BTW, are rasher's sim builds OK? There were some reports on flyspray that they didn't work. |
| 16:42:28 | soap | I haven't tried, I haven't had much time, I just wanted to get the word out there and make some builds for those unable/unwilling to make their own. |
| 16:44:29 | linuxstb | Does anyone have any opinion about whether the new "official" rockbox-themes.org site should still have an area for themes using patched builds? IIUC, the two main features that are still outstanding are multi-fonts and the custom list position, but the latter should be implementable after viewports (drawing lists inside a viewport, rather than full-screen). |
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| 16:44:55 | linuxstb | I would really like to stop the proliferation of themes that don't work with official builds... |
| 16:46:28 | BigBambi | I'm not sure. The trouble is that rather than being a testbed for patches, as soon as the functionality is achieved people don't bother to try and get them SVN ready |
| 16:46:49 | BigBambi | But I think viewports and album art where the two big ones |
| 16:47:51 | BigBambi | I agree that it would be much easier not to have themes that need unofficial builds |
| 16:48:53 | soap | linuxstb, while I agree 100% with the desire to stomp out themes which don't work with SVN builds, I think the bigger question is "If Rockbox attempts to prevent custom builds - will they just pull a total fork and not come back into 'the fold'?" |
| 16:50:13 | soap | Personally, I don't think any of the custom build makers have enough dedication to maintain a full fork, so I think if Rockbox stops "supporting" them (as it does through Rockbox-Themes) they will eventually wither and die. |
| 16:50:24 | linuxstb | I've no problem with custom builds, it's just the issue of themes... |
| 16:50:26 | soap | Though, look at all the custom builds on MysticRiver. |
| 16:50:49 | BigBambi | I would say most custom builds are to support fancier themes though |
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| 16:51:27 | BigBambi | I can't really see how we say you can have the ustom builds but not the themes that use the patches in the custom builds |
| 16:51:31 | soap | well, BigBambi, most of the ones on forums.rockbox.org are, but many of the other ones (mysticriver) are recording and other based. |
| 16:51:47 | BigBambi | soap: OK, I haven't visited any of those in many moons |
| 16:52:04 | soap | but, linuxstb, you're right, I did kind of dodge the heart of your question. |
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| 16:53:20 | soap | I guess, linuxstb, thinking about your original question - It would probably solve much confusion if neither Rockbox nor Rockbox-Themes (the two "official" sites) had anything but themes which worked with stock rockbox. |
| 16:53:32 | soap | Perhaps a compromise, though. |
| 16:54:07 | soap | Patches which are deemed "on the path to inclusion" would be allowd to have themes in a special (clearly marked) section? |
| 16:55:41 | linuxstb | I think the only missing patch is multi-font, so if we stopped hosting themes that required patches _and_ told the patch writers what was needed for multi-font to be accepted, then hopefully it will get done. |
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| 17:03:07 | soap | hmm, 4.2 is failing for me on Gigabeat as well. |
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| 17:03:38 | soap | maybe there is something else I need to do for my build environment other than ./rockboxdev.sh? |
| 17:05:22 | linuxstb | Where is it failing? |
| 17:07:11 | soap | http://pastebin.com/m4ea84974 |
| 17:08:00 | linuxstb | That's the same error BigBambi had - you've multiple copies of the code in test_viewports.c (bad patching...) |
| 17:08:35 | linuxstb | hint: "svn revert" doesn't touch files not added to svn... |
| 17:08:41 | BigBambi | soap: yeah, I had that. Just delete test_viewports.c then revert, then patch |
| 17:09:33 | soap | ahh, thank you |
| 17:12:44 | Crash91 | linuxstb: its not only multifont, theres custom line and bmp scale |
| 17:12:58 | BigBambi | Crash91: What does custom line do? |
| 17:13:17 | BigBambi | The name sounds to me very much like viewports will replace it |
| 17:13:25 | Crash91 | i think it lets you specify custom coordinates for the text to appear |
| 17:13:37 | soap | which viewports addresse |
| 17:13:42 | BigBambi | So viewports will do that better then |
| 17:13:43 | soap | addresses even |
| 17:14:16 | Crash91 | BigBambi: http://labb.contactor.se/tracker/task/5900?histring=custom%20line |
| 17:14:41 | soap | bmp resize is a known want - a workaround (cover.<width>x<height>.bmp) was included with album art to hold people over until such time as it is finished. |
| 17:15:09 | BigBambi | Crash91: Viewports does that (without the multifont dependency) |
| 17:15:27 | Crash91 | BigBambi: Even different colours? |
| 17:15:33 | BigBambi | Crash91: Yes |
| 17:15:36 | Crash91 | :D |
| 17:15:49 | BigBambi | Crash91: Perhaps you ought to read about viewports before commenting? |
| 17:16:05 | soap | and viewports will scroll, custom line doesn't. |
| 17:16:06 | Crash91 | i did, and i understood very little :P |
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| 18:18:14 | YippMN | is there any channel to ask questions about installing rockbox on sansa e260? |
| 18:19:20 | Crash91 | YippMN: See the manual |
| 18:19:30 | YippMN | just have a question in the manual , abotu where to extract the files, it says on the foot , is that just the main folder that holds all the folders such a music and such ? |
| 18:19:43 | YippMN | foot=root |
| 18:19:57 | Crash91 | YippMN: the root is the folder with MUSIC, PHOTO , VIDEO....etc. in your sansa |
| 18:20:30 | Crash91 | YippMN: so if youre using winzip/rar click the icon of your sansa in the window and hit extract |
| 18:21:33 | YippMN | Crash91, ahh ok thats what i was figuring ok just wanted to make sure i was thinking right :) |
| 18:22:03 | YippMN | Crash91, and btw i'm working in gentoo linux and using ark :) |
| 18:23:11 | Crash91 | ok cool |
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| 18:28:49 | YippMN | Crash91, do you know of a channel for sandisk or sansa e260, or is this just the best spot for anything to do with the e260 and rockbox |
| 18:29:30 | Crash91 | YippMN: assuming this is #rockbox, i would guess it might just be remotely related to rockbox |
| 18:30:29 | YippMN | Crash91, heh well yes:p just was wondering if there mite be a channel of sansa owners also :) |
| 18:30:42 | minifig904 | YippMN: unlike gentoo, most projects don't have platform specific channels. |
| 18:31:03 | minifig904 | if they do, they're usually listed on the website |
| 18:31:04 | Crash91 | freenode is only for OS software projects AFAIK |
| 18:31:25 | minifig904 | sh we cheat |
| 18:31:26 | YippMN | sounds good tnx |
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| 18:44:16 | [Morph3us] | http://www.rockbox.org/lock.html |
| 18:44:26 | [Morph3us] | i had a query regarding this |
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| 18:45:21 | [Morph3us] | can i use the proggy by connecting my laptop hdd to a ata->usb converter and then running the proggy from within windows ? |
| 18:45:28 | [Morph3us] | anyone awake ? |
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| 18:46:51 | linuxstb | [Morph3us]: Check the date at the bottom of that page... No-one is still around who knows anything more than what that wiki page says - that was only an issue in the very early Rockbox days. |
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| 18:54:44 | ze | [Morph3us]: there's only DOS or linux unlockers there, the DOS one requires a real ata connection (not usb, those archos' were already usb drives yet those instructions say you must remove the drive and hook it up directly to ide) |
| 18:55:06 | ze | [Morph3us]: and then the linux version is a hack on the driver for the particular usb-ide controller in those archos models |
| 18:57:22 | * | linuxstb reverts his previous comment |
| 18:58:12 | ze | linuxstb: nah, i didn't say anything thats not already indicated on that page :p |
| 18:58:21 | * | linuxstb unreverts then ;) |
| 18:59:19 | ze | well, aside from my risidual knowledge of them old archos' providing a bit of context |
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| 18:59:23 | ze | heh |
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| 19:18:45 | Guest8191 | hi there! |
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| 19:19:12 | Guest8191 | i got an archos iriver h340 with |
| 19:19:16 | Guest8191 | broken hd |
| 19:19:27 | |elppa| | I love ROckbox, and I love giving other people Rockbox, especially because it's pretty much just flat-out better than Apple's proprietary firmware |
| 19:19:58 | linuxstb | Guest8191: Have you read this page? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement |
| 19:20:00 | |elppa| | Therefore when there's a new development in Apple's offerings that Rockbox doesn't (at least to my knowledge) have, then I get especially interested/concerned |
| 19:20:06 | |elppa| | Cover Flow |
| 19:20:26 | |elppa| | Is there any movement in Rockbox to recreate the "Cover Flow" effect of the new iPods? |
| 19:20:28 | linuxstb | Have you seen Rockbox's "picture flow" plugin? |
| 19:20:34 | |elppa| | Or to display album art at all? |
| 19:20:36 | |elppa| | No I haven't. |
| 19:20:42 | |elppa| | My iPod is monochrome |
| 19:20:43 | Guest8191 | I am thinking about bying a new one (toshiba mk4004gah) but i am not sure whether it is formatted properly. |
| 19:20:52 | linuxstb | Rockbox can display album-art as well... |
| 19:21:10 | |elppa| | linuxstb: So Picture Flow is available on all colour iPods? |
| 19:21:12 | Guest8191 | is rockbox able to format hard discs? |
| 19:21:12 | linuxstb | No ipods are monochrome - they're 4-shade greyscale. |
| 19:21:21 | |elppa| | Or just video (5th gen) iPods? |
| 19:21:33 | |elppa| | Aye, well I have a 4-shade greyscale 4th generation. |
| 19:21:34 | pixelma | but no picture flow on greyscale players (yet) but album art for the WPS works |
| 19:21:42 | linuxstb | I'm not sure about picture flow, but album-art is shown on both greyscale and colour LCDs. |
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| 19:22:14 | |elppa| | linuxstb: Okay well you brought up the existence of Picture Flow...what can you say about it? Have you used it? |
| 19:22:44 | soap | Guest8191, you don't need Rockbox to format your new hard drive, if you have access to Windows you can use iTunes to "restore" the new hard drive. |
| 19:22:48 | linuxstb | Guest8191: No, but there is no need. You just replace the disk in the device, and format it from your computer (assuming you've installed the Rockbox bootloader). |
| 19:23:08 | linuxstb | soap: itunes can restore an iriver h340? ;) |
| 19:23:08 | Guest8191 | linuxstb: sounds easy |
| 19:23:34 | Guest8191 | yes, the bootloader is already in |
| 19:23:50 | soap | linuxstb, oh lord, I got |elppa| confused with Guest8191. I'm sorry Guest8191 |
| 19:23:52 | linuxstb | |elppa|: No, I haven't used it. |
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| 19:24:40 | pit_ | soap: should be easyer now ;-) |
| 19:24:41 | linuxstb | |elppa|: Just try it - it's included in current Rockbox builds... |
| 19:25:16 | pixelma | linuxstb: but not on his... |
| 19:25:19 | linuxstb | |elppa|: I take that back, it doesn't work on your ipod... You could try a simulator though |
| 19:25:27 | linuxstb | pixelma: I just remembered that ;) |
| 19:25:36 | pit_ | i hope the harddisc i'm going to buy via ebay will work ... |
| 19:26:17 | pit_ | http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150198172918&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=005 |
| 19:27:04 | linuxstb | pit_: The only problem is that the built-in Windows formatting program refuses to format FAT disks > 32GB. So you'll need a third-party tool to format it. |
| 19:27:19 | linuxstb | (assuming you're using Windows0 |
| 19:27:30 | pit_ | linuxstb: what about my debian machine? |
| 19:27:40 | linuxstb | No problem there. |
| 19:27:46 | pit_ | ;-) |
| 19:28:25 | linuxstb | It's just an arbitrary restriction MS imposed, to try to make people switch to using NTFS. |
| 19:29:17 | amiconn | meh |
| 19:29:29 | pit_ | a friend of mine sold the h340 to me and a very short time after that it felt down and the hd was broken ... |
| 19:29:34 | * | amiconn 's greyscale function is so optimised that it cannot work :( |
| 19:30:08 | S | he |
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| 19:32:42 | linuxstb | amiconn: I've got a problem with 2bpp displays and viewports - how to statically initialise the values of the fg/bg_pattern variables in the viewport declarations in apps code? |
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| 19:49:45 | gnoob | Would something like the sansa c250 be a worthwhile investment? Rockbox would allow it to use an SDHC card when I decide that 2gigs is not enough? |
| 19:49:51 | ze | hey you guys see the archos 605 wifi bit on /.? exploit discovered to execute arbitrary code |
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| 19:50:46 | BigBambi | gnoob: Yes, rockbox supports SDHC |
| 19:50:59 | BigBambi | gnoob: But you need a V1 - v" doesn't work with rockbox |
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| 19:51:44 | BigBambi | s/v"/v2 |
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| 19:52:44 | gnoob | BigBambi, how can I tell if it's v1 or v2 |
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| 19:54:04 | BigBambi | gnoob: It is difficult before you buy |
| 19:54:14 | BigBambi | If it is advertised as haveing Audible support, it is a v2 |
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| 19:54:24 | BigBambi | But even if it doesn't say that it may be |
| 19:54:29 | salty-horse | hi. any sansa user? a revision somewhere between 15700 and HEAD (will locate the exact revision soon) causes a crash on playback. was wondering if others see it too. |
| 19:54:53 | obo | BigBambi: my c250 listed Audible support, but is a v1 |
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| 19:55:07 | BigBambi | obo: gnoob Which then makes it even harder :) |
| 19:55:36 | obo | I was hoping to get a v2 to have a play :) |
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| 19:56:41 | gnoob | audible meaning audible.com? |
| 19:57:06 | BigBambi | yeah |
| 19:57:10 | gnoob | newegg has it for 50 bucks. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855125021 |
| 19:57:19 | gnoob | seems reasonable. |
| 19:57:44 | BigBambi | gnoob: No way to tell from that |
| 19:58:04 | advcomp2019 | gnoob, the easiest what is the firmware |
| 19:58:20 | advcomp2019 | s/what/way |
| 19:58:38 | gnoob | yeah, but if I don't own it yet. |
| 19:58:53 | BigBambi | It is easy enough to tell if you have it |
| 19:58:59 | BigBambi | But very difficult before |
| 19:59:34 | gnoob | somone in the reviews said that they loaded rockbox but probably can't count on that either. |
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| 20:00:02 | BigBambi | gnoob: Yeah, who knows which you will be sent |
| 20:00:34 | gnoob | Is V2 just a firmware update? |
| 20:00:49 | Crash91 | gnoob: nope, total HW change |
| 20:01:02 | gnoob | ah |
| 20:01:43 | Crash91 | eh, its the same v1/v2 shit with sansas AND microSDs now |
| 20:02:08 | gnoob | For all the sansa models, c200, e200 and e200R, they all have a V2 that you have to watch for? |
| 20:02:21 | Crash91 | yep |
| 20:02:25 | BigBambi | yes |
| 20:02:33 | gnoob | great |
| 20:02:41 | BigBambi | indeed so |
| 20:02:57 | gnoob | I like the idea of the sansa because the price seems reasonable and the SD slot. |
| 20:03:27 | BigBambi | gnoob: Yeah, it is attractive, but annoying since the new versions |
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| 20:06:49 | gnoob | Has the new version been around for a while or is there still a decent chance of finding the v1? |
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| 20:08:50 | advcomp2019 | gnoob, you might find v1 since it seems like the v2 started to pop out sometime in december tho |
| 20:09:48 | gnoob | Interesting |
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| 20:11:20 | gnoob | thanks for the insight everyone. |
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| 20:13:01 | alienbiker99 | hmmm arcwelder for archos. maybe a start to rockbox ports? |
| 20:17:37 | GodEater | already mentioned it much much earlier today alienbiker99 ;) |
| 20:19:01 | alienbiker99 | haha sorry, really really long night |
| 20:19:41 | GodEater | no idea what became of it though |
| 20:19:50 | GodEater | I had to logout pretty much as soon as I'd seen it |
| 20:20:11 | GodEater | so possibly worth reading the logs from around 9am this morning ? |
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| 20:28:58 | picard_pwns_kirk | does Rockbox support video playback? |
| 20:29:56 | linuxstb | yes |
| 20:30:09 | picard_pwns_kirk | whoo! |
| 20:30:20 | BigBambi | picard_pwns_kirk: See the PluginMpegplayer wiki page |
| 20:30:21 | picard_pwns_kirk | even on nano 1st gen? |
| 20:30:25 | BigBambi | picard_pwns_kirk: yes |
| 20:30:35 | picard_pwns_kirk | thanks |
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| 20:31:35 | Crash91 | picard_pwns_kirk: picard most certainly doesnt |
| 20:31:53 | picard_pwns_kirk | Crash91: I beg to differ |
| 20:32:09 | BigBambi | On topic |
| 20:32:09 | krazykit | keep in mind that this is an on-topic channel |
| 20:32:44 | Gnu47 | I'm with picard_pwns_kirk :P |
| 20:33:14 | * | BigBambi shouts on topi and points at #rockbox-community |
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| 20:42:43 | BigBambi | pixelma: Damn you! My "c" key is all sticky |
| 20:43:34 | BigBambi | It isn't my fault! |
| 20:44:18 | * | GodEater wonders what BigBambi has been doing to get his c key all sticky |
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| 20:46:18 | countrymonkeyweb | Obo: Could you tell me how your lang.pl script in task #6360 works and how to use it? I need a "redneck" lang file. |
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| 20:51:35 | obo | countrymonkeyweb: if I remember... the first parameter is the path to the lang file, and the second is the path to the talk filter executable |
| 20:52:48 | countrymonkeyweb | What is the talk filter excecutable? Is it the .c file? |
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| 20:53:30 | obo | it's the compiled talk filter (the web link in the task) |
| 20:53:42 | countrymonkeyweb | Hold on a sec. |
| 20:53:42 | obo | as in you'd need to download that tarball and compile them |
| 20:54:52 | countrymonkeyweb | Do you still have the precompiled ones. I have no compiler. |
| 20:55:17 | obo | but it was a very quick and dirty hack, and I'm not sure if it works after the lang v2 change |
| 20:55:44 | countrymonkeyweb | Do you have the excecutable ones handy? |
| 20:56:00 | obo | nope |
| 20:56:24 | krazykit | countrymonkeyweb, then install a compiler, geez. |
| 20:56:26 | countrymonkeyweb | Do you know what compiler I use? |
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| 20:56:56 | Crash91 | countrymonkeyweb: how would we know? |
| 20:56:57 | countrymonkeyweb | Will cygwin cut it? |
| 20:57:26 | countrymonkeyweb | I am talking to obo. He has done it before. |
| 20:57:36 | krazykit | countrymonkeyweb, cygwin is not the compiler. if you have a dev environment, you have gcc, thus you have a compiler |
| 20:58:12 | krazykit | countrymonkeyweb, at some point, take the initiative and use google sometime. you can't have your hand held through every little step like you seem to think you can. |
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| 21:07:47 | Klevi | Hi all ... is there a way to theme the statusbar outside of the WPS? as is, while menu surfing? |
| 21:08:09 | BigBambi | Not at this time |
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| 21:08:18 | Klevi | Dang |
| 21:08:23 | BigBambi | In fact, you can't theme the statusbar in the WPS eith atm |
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| 21:08:27 | BigBambi | *either |
| 21:08:37 | BigBambi | You an just turn it off and make your own |
| 21:08:41 | BigBambi | *can |
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| 21:10:28 | Klevi | .. |
| 21:11:12 | BigBambi | ? |
| 21:11:30 | Klevi | Anyway, yeah like I was saying. Im currently using a themed Statusbar on the WOP |
| 21:11:34 | Klevi | **WPS |
| 21:11:46 | ompaul | scorche, ping |
| 21:12:10 | Klevi | Updated rockbox on my C200 yesterday |
| 21:12:19 | BigBambi | Klevi: No, you have made your own icons |
| 21:12:29 | BigBambi | The status bar remains as ever it was |
| 21:12:41 | Klevi | Oh oh.. okay |
| 21:13:02 | BigBambi | I know it may seem a silly distinction, but in a technical project it is important to be accurate |
| 21:13:14 | Klevi | Yeah, didnt know |
| 21:13:17 | Klevi | ^^ thanks |
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| 21:38:25 | Klevi | Why does my sansa crash when I plug in USB while Rockbox is running |
| 21:38:46 | Klevi | the bootloader doesnt popup anymore |
| 21:46:54 | krazykit | Klevi, you're using the latest build and the latest bootloader? |
| 21:47:18 | krazykit | and by latest bootloader, i mean installed with the most recent official sansapatcher |
| 21:48:24 | bertrik | Klevi, I get the same, it seems reboot doesn't always work correctly |
| 21:48:46 | Klevi | YEs |
| 21:48:48 | Klevi | **yes |
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| 21:49:17 | Klevi | bertrik: Your players screen goes black with keylights on still as well? |
| 21:49:35 | krazykit | Klevi, if it isn't responding, hold the power button for 15 or so seconds |
| 21:49:43 | Klevi | tried |
| 21:49:46 | Klevi | Nothing |
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| 21:50:00 | bertrik | last time I got it, I just get a kind of striped screen, but the backlight does not turn off |
| 21:50:02 | Klevi | but, its fixable by reboting once you rmove the battery |
| 21:50:10 | Klevi | *remove |
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| 21:51:39 | bertrik | what does the bootloader have to do with it? |
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| 21:53:56 | Klevi | to load the OF and use USB rockbox reboots the player |
| 21:57:06 | bertrik | Klevi: for me it reboots maybe only half the time |
| 21:57:35 | bertrik | can you check something for me, just after a reboot? |
| 21:58:18 | Klevi | mine doesnt reboot correctly |
| 21:58:20 | Klevi | at all |
| 21:58:26 | Klevi | Ihave to turn off the player |
| 21:58:31 | Klevi | boot the OF myself |
| 21:58:35 | Klevi | then plug in USB |
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| 22:02:27 | bertrik | I made a patch to fix some issues (bugs IMO) in the sansa reboot procedure, you can find it here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8272 |
| 22:04:41 | bertrik | Klevi: can't you just turn off your sansa and then plug in USB to wake it up in OF? that would at least save some time avoiding the OF database rebuild |
| 22:04:59 | Klevi | nope |
| 22:05:07 | Klevi | I crash the same way |
| 22:06:46 | bertrik | ok, that's odd |
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| 22:30:08 | major_works | Does anyone know whether Viewports will eventually perform .bmp resizing? |
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| 22:31:43 | krazykit | viewports won't. a resizing algorhythm in the core would. |
| 22:32:07 | major_works | OK... so does anyone know of anyone working in that direction? |
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| 22:34:00 | major_works | I saw a comment earlier by linuxstb about wanting to stop the proliferation of themes that conflict with the official builds. Getting .bmp resizing working would probably go a long way toward achieving that. |
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| 22:35:31 | major_works | I wish I knew how to do that. I would if I could. |
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| 22:38:20 | linuxstb | Does the bmp resize patch actually change the wps tags? |
| 22:38:45 | major_works | I hope you're not asking me! |
| 22:39:31 | linuxstb | You're implied that it does. |
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| 22:40:10 | major_works | I do compile my own builds and used to incorporate all the stuff that the "eye-candy lovers" on ABi like. With the closure of some of the patches coupled with the recent changes in SVN, it's become too difficult for this non-programmer to get everything working. |
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| 22:40:47 | krazykit | linuxstb, i believe it adds some places in the image lines for what size it should be |
| 22:41:01 | major_works | So I went back to straight SVN and just added your Viewports patch. Now some themes work, and some don't, but what doesn't work even in the ones that display album art is that .bmps are not resized. |
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| 22:41:40 | major_works | I didn't mean to imply anything about the .bmp resize patch changing tags. I really don't know if it does or not. |
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| 22:43:34 | linuxstb | My question is just whether the same theme will work on a build with bmp resize and without bmp resize. I realise the user needs different album-art bmp files depending on the build. |
| 22:45:29 | major_works | I'd have to do a lot of scratching around to figure out the answer to your question. I just know that I used to make up my own builds with all those fudgy patches (customline, multifont, bmpresize, etc.) and that lots of themes worked great. But it just got too difficult for me to make the patches work. |
| 22:46:13 | major_works | Now, with your Viewports patch as the only one in my current build that has anything whatsoever to do with WPSs, some work, and some don't. |
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| 22:46:39 | Llorean | linuxstb: If a theme uses "bmp resize", in a current build, it will look for a pre-resized image with those dimensions in its filename |
| 22:46:40 | major_works | Should I try using the Viewports patch *and* the old bmpresize patch and see how that works? |
| 22:46:56 | Llorean | So for example if it's supposed to resize to 100x100, I *think* it'll look for cover.100x100.bmp |
| 22:47:01 | Llorean | Or some filename *like* that |
| 22:47:25 | Llorean | I can't remember the exact filename it looks for, but the "look for a pre-sized image" tag in current svn is identical (if I recall) to the old resize tag. |
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| 22:49:23 | Bagder | salty-horse: fsck.vfat is unfortunately not very good |
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| 22:49:35 | Bagder | I've had problems it couldn't fix |
| 22:49:37 | WeaponX | helo |
| 22:49:42 | WeaponX | hello* |
| 22:49:52 | major_works | Llorean: I really don't understand how the bmpresize patch works... but are you saying that it would ordinarily rename .bmp files? If that's so, I wasn't aware of it. |
| 22:49:52 | WeaponX | happy new year everyone :) |
| 22:50:33 | Bagder | salty-horse: and I've been upgrading every now and then recently with no playback problems at all |
| 22:50:54 | BigBambi | major_works: No, he isn't saying that |
| 22:50:58 | salty-horse | Bagder, hmm, ok. I'll report back once I locate the revision that causes the playback crash (this weekend) |
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| 22:51:18 | Llorean | major_works: No, it wouldn't |
| 22:51:28 | BigBambi | With how album art works in svn, if you tell it that album art is 100x100, it will first look for cover.100x100.bmp |
| 22:51:43 | Llorean | major_works: Basically, the tag for "resize cover.bmp to 100x100" in bmpresize builds is the same tag as "look for cover.100x100.bmp" in official builds |
| 22:51:54 | BigBambi | If it cannot find a correct size it will either crop or centre another available one in a different size |
| 22:52:02 | BigBambi | It doesn't do any resizing at all |
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| 22:52:48 | BigBambi | And for the resize patch, it does what Llorean said :) |
| 22:52:56 | major_works | OK. What I'm finding now with a build using current SVN + the Viewports patch is that it doesn't center the images. It seems to start from the top left corner and fill the available image space with whatever fits from that point. |
| 22:53:16 | BigBambi | major_works: Did you tell it to do it centered? |
| 22:53:43 | major_works | Where would I tell it to center the images? In the .wps files? |
| 22:53:51 | soap | isn't that how album art has always worked? Or am I mistaken in that? I'll be honest, I've never tried loading a sub-sized .bmp. |
| 22:53:55 | BigBambi | major_works: Yes |
| 22:54:16 | major_works | I'll have to play around with some and see how that works. Thanks very much for the tip. |
| 22:54:22 | BigBambi | soap: It'll put it where you tell it. I'm not sure what the default is if you don't |
| 22:54:28 | Llorean | soap: I think he's saying it crops oversized ones |
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| 22:54:47 | Llorean | But it sounds like things are "working as intended, which may not be the same as what you expect" :) |
| 22:54:52 | major_works | Yes, that's right. It crops oversized ones. Most of my ,bmps are 160 x 160 or more. |
| 22:55:14 | * | Llorean wonders if there's still work going into that newer resize alternative |
| 22:55:22 | BigBambi | This is indeed working as intended |
| 22:55:24 | BigBambi | major_works: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=AlbumArt |
| 22:55:31 | major_works | I'm sure it's working "as intended." What I'd like or expect, maybe not, but as a non-programmer, I'm at your collective mercy. |
| 22:55:52 | BigBambi | major_works: That isn't to say it is completed |
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| 22:56:05 | BigBambi | Everyone who works on rockbox does it for free in their spare time |
| 22:56:05 | major_works | I'm very much aware of that. |
| 22:56:30 | major_works | I'm aware of that, too, and believe me, I appreciate all the work everyone has done. I'd give you all a big raise if I could. |
| 22:57:25 | major_works | I'm in the unfortunate position of being caught in the middle in a way. I know enough to be dangerous to myself, but unfortunately, not enough to contribute to fixing all this stuff. |
| 22:57:26 | soap | I, personally, don't see a point in recentering, assuming resize gets added eventually. |
| 22:57:30 | WeaponX | does anyone know of a software that makes it easier to tag video files on ipod? itunes reallly limits the tagging because it doesnt let you select more than one video file to edit |
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| 22:57:49 | krazykit | WeaponX, that is not rockbox related. |
| 22:57:54 | WeaponX | oh ok |
| 22:58:08 | BigBambi | Sure, once resizing is in position (centre or otherwise) is meaningless |
| 22:58:10 | WeaponX | well can you direct me to where i might find that information :S |
| 22:58:13 | major_works | Well, that was one thing I'd asked... is resizing ever going to be added? |
| 22:58:15 | krazykit | WeaponX, google |
| 22:58:19 | BigBambi | WeaponX: www.google.com |
| 22:58:28 | WeaponX | haha thought you were gonna say that |
| 22:58:30 | WeaponX | ok |
| 22:58:30 | BigBambi | major_works: If someone writes it correctly, yes |
| 22:58:35 | WeaponX | thanks anywayzs |
| 22:58:50 | major_works | Always an "if..." Sure thing. |
| 22:59:06 | * | soap is willing to bet it will happen, and before 2009 |
| 22:59:13 | BigBambi | major_works: It is all what people want to work on, not what you want them to work on |
| 22:59:20 | major_works | Like I said earlier, I wish I knew how myself. |
| 22:59:35 | Llorean | major_works: Well how can someone say "Yes" if we don't know whether someone will create an acceptable implementation? |
| 22:59:35 | BigBambi | Why should someone spend their free time coding a feature they don't want for you |
| 22:59:41 | major_works | Yep. Llorean has reminded the ABi folks of that recently in his inimitable fashion. :-) |
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| 23:00:05 | major_works | Guys... not here to argue about anything at all. Please don't take it that way! |
| 23:00:20 | BigBambi | There is always an if for a very good reason |
| 23:00:28 | major_works | I don't want anyone to code anything for me specifically. If it happens, great, and I'll wait until it does. I have no choice. |
| 23:00:37 | bertrik | resizing isn't so hard i would think |
| 23:00:41 | BigBambi | major_works: The choice is to learn |
| 23:01:03 | Llorean | bertrik: Resizing that looks nice, with an acceptable memory footprint, on the other hand, is slightly more complex. ;) |
| 23:01:24 | bertrik | ok, so we first need a definition of "correctly" and "acceptable" |
| 23:01:30 | major_works | You're right. Time is always the issue. It'd be yet another hobby. I don't do coding for a living as I suspect some of the devs do. |
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| 23:02:24 | BigBambi | major_works: Sure, and it'd be quiker for someone who already knows how to did it than you learn, but how they use their time is up to them |
| 23:02:33 | peppo | I keep getting double entries in my playlist, and it's not because of .Trash entries and such. I copy my music to my ipod video using rhythmbox, it works in ipod "mode"... |
| 23:02:39 | Llorean | bertrik: I believe we already have one. "Looks Good" is of course subjective, but the idea was *I think* to resize in place when loading it into the buffer while buffering audio, so that the resize doesn't need to permanently use any non-buffer memory |
| 23:03:17 | major_works | You're absolutely correct and I cannot argue that point one bit. Not trying to, either. |
| 23:03:22 | Llorean | peppo: Save a copy of your playlist and pastebin it then? |
| 23:03:42 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:03:42 | bertrik | Llorean: ok thanks |
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| 23:04:05 | major_works | Thanks for the input. I'll play with .wps files for centering. Happy New Year to all! |
| 23:04:11 | peppo | Llorean, tcds |
| 23:04:12 | Llorean | bertrik: The real sticking point, I *think*, is that it should have as absolutely minimal impact on non-album-art users as possible. |
| 23:04:12 | peppo | ? |
| 23:04:27 | Llorean | peppo: No, TCDs are your database, not your playlist. Did you mean your database? |
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| 23:04:39 | peppo | Llorean, ah yes, sorry. |
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| 23:04:58 | peppo | Llorean, most of my albums have double entries that contain the exact same path of a file |
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| 23:08:48 | linuxstb | peppo: Have you tried deleting the .tcd files and rebuilding the database? |
| 23:09:00 | peppo | linuxstb, yup |
| 23:09:04 | peppo | I will attempt it again |
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| 23:10:23 | JdGordon | hey linuxstb |
| 23:10:35 | JdGordon | done anything more with vps? or been out partying? |
| 23:11:31 | linuxstb | I've done a little - I've got the lcd-remote-2bit-vi.c driver working, but am not happy about how the fg/bg patterns are dealt with. |
| 23:11:47 | JdGordon | whats the prob? |
| 23:12:49 | amiconn | linuxstb: Why not just store the fg and bg *colours* in the viewport struct, and not the pattern? |
| 23:13:23 | amiconn | That means recalculating the pattern when switching viewports, but that shouldn't be a big problem |
| 23:13:42 | linuxstb | JdGordon: In the 16-bit (colour) driver, the apps code passes fg/bg colour to the LCD driver in the same format the driver uses internally (16-bit rgb565). In the greyscale drivers, the driver stores it internally in a different format to that passed to set_back/foreground (and converts it back with get_back/foreground). |
| 23:14:17 | amiconn | Are those get_* functions used anywhere? |
| 23:14:29 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes, that could work... If the apps code changes the colour, it would just need to call set_viewport again. |
| 23:14:52 | JdGordon | why? do the recalculate after a colour change also |
| 23:15:50 | amiconn | It's basically just a table lookup, as the patterns are precalculated |
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| 23:16:23 | JdGordon | did anyone have comments on my dev-ml email? |
| 23:16:24 | amiconn | Hmm, no it's not |
| 23:16:34 | amiconn | But the caluclation isn't difficult |
| 23:17:20 | amiconn | And it could be changed into a lookup. |
| 23:17:58 | linuxstb | JdGordon: I'm currently without email, so can't reply to the list, but I didn't really understand what you want to achieve. I also think you may be over-estimating how much viewports will help you do it. |
| 23:18:13 | amiconn | In fact the 2 bit remote driver uses a lookup. The 2 bit main lcd drivers don't (yet) |
| 23:18:19 | JdGordon | thats all very probable :p |
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| 23:20:20 | JdGordon | I;m going to have a play today... but acually, I dont think what I want to do isnt possible |
| 23:20:29 | peppo | hm, a confused question here: is it possible to be playing all random tracks from a playlist and then just selectively continuing playing from the album a song is from? |
| 23:20:30 | JdGordon | it just requires a bit of work to do it |
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| 23:22:43 | amiconn | JdGordon: The question is not only whether it's possible, but also whether it makes sense |
| 23:23:08 | JdGordon | only on the larger screens.. |
| 23:23:26 | linuxstb | peppo: Enable the "follow playlist" option in the settings, and then when you are listing to a track, press "select" to go to the file browser, and you'll be in the folder for that album. Then just press select again, and you'll be playing a new playlist of just that album. |
| 23:23:27 | amiconn | What is 'large' in that respect? |
| 23:23:50 | * | amiconn thinks JdGordon is trying to overengineer things. |
| 23:23:54 | amiconn | By far. |
| 23:23:55 | JdGordon | not sure. |
| 23:23:56 | linuxstb | JdGordon: For example, do you want both a menu and wps onscreen at the same time, and be able to move focus between the two? |
| 23:24:21 | JdGordon | no.. I said that in the email didnt I? you cant change focus or things mess up |
| 23:24:36 | linuxstb | Then you don't need a window manager IMO. |
| 23:24:46 | JdGordon | but I would like to have some wps on the screen when the menubrpowser is up |
| 23:25:03 | JdGordon | and I dont want to limit it to only certain screen combos |
| 23:25:20 | peppo | linuxstb, hm, thanks. but can't find the follow playlist option. is it in the context for Playlists or in Settings somewhere? |
| 23:25:52 | linuxstb | peppo: In the settings somewhere... Maybe "file view" |
| 23:26:14 | peppo | ah yes, thanks |
| 23:27:20 | peppo | perfect |
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| 23:27:46 | peppo | I also wonder, is there a faster way to play _all songs_ randomly, without creating a playlist (instead I'd like something "live")? |
| 23:28:18 | peppo | 'cuz right now, going into <All tracks> in root, takes a lot of time when it's searching (have ~5k tracks) |
| 23:28:32 | saratoga | Buschel: (for the logs) I can take current measurements on my Sansa if you like, but it will be at least a few days before I'm back with my equipment |
| 23:28:36 | csc` | like a dynamic playlist peppo? |
| 23:28:41 | peppo | aye |
| 23:28:46 | csc` | those would be nice |
| 23:29:29 | peppo | linuxstb, unfortunately that doesn't work for me. do I need to reboot? |
| 23:30:03 | linuxstb | Ah, you're using the database? I don't think that feature works in the database, so ignore me.... |
| 23:30:52 | peppo | I am. is there a way to not use database? file system access? that wouldn't work here though, since all music I have is copied to the iPod file structure |
| 23:30:59 | amiconn | 'Follow playlist' only works for the file browser (and even that is * |
| 23:31:05 | linuxstb | JdGordon: So you don't think that a fully customisable "status bar" able to draw anywhere on the screen will do what you want? |
| 23:31:06 | peppo | damn |
| 23:31:12 | amiconn | still* broken since the wps tokenizer went in) |
| 23:32:16 | csc` | how many devs work on rockbox total? |
| 23:34:27 | JdGordon | linuxstb: it possibly would, but thats still limited, and unless im misunderstanindg, I dont like having the wps control the statusbar |
| 23:34:31 | JdGordon | csc`: lots |
| 23:34:50 | linuxstb | How would that be the wps controlling the statusbar? |
| 23:34:55 | csc` | vague but ok :p |
| 23:35:12 | JdGordon | linuxstb: ok, so maybe i misunderstood how you wanted to do it |
| 23:35:22 | JdGordon | csc`: i tihnk the last count had 60 odd commiters or something |
| 23:35:29 | linuxstb | You mean that the wps code/parser shouldn't be reused to draw the statusbar? |
| 23:35:35 | csc` | nice |
| 23:35:47 | JdGordon | no, im fine with that |
| 23:35:47 | * | csc` waits silently for 3rd generation nanos |
| 23:36:10 | saratoga | csc`: hope you're a young man |
| 23:36:31 | csc` | saratoga: might be :P |
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