Previous day | Jump to hour: 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 | Next day

Seconds: Show Hide | Joins: Show Hide | View raw
Font: Serif Sans-Serif Monospace | Size: Small Medium Large

Click in the nick column to highlight everything a person has said.
The Logo icon identifies that the person is a core developer (has commit access).

Notice: Only Gecko based browsers prior to FF4 support the multipart/mixed "server push" method used by this log reader to auto-update. Since you do not appear to use such a browser, this page will simply show the current log, and not automatically update.

#rockbox log for 2008-01-06

00:00:24draeathwhats the select/menu buttons do now?
00:00:27duvnel1modifying the code.. I want to #define HAVE_TOUCHPAD for the iRiver H10, is this a change to the configure script, or is there an .h file for each model? what file do I need to change for this to official work?
00:00:40duvnel1I'm implementing the slider pad and I need that #defined
00:00:55duvnel1it works when I manually define it, but I want to know the correct place
00:01:38Bagdertouchpad is for touch screen devices I think, but the places is in firmware/export/config-[device].h
00:01:56draeathkugel: i see now, didn't read updates
00:02:06 Quit Redbreva ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org")
00:02:08duvnel1thx
00:02:11duvnel1it is what I need
00:02:37draeaththanks, will be applying patch Kugel
00:03:09kugelyou are the first one I guess, besides me
00:04:05draeathmakes more sense to me for sure :D
00:04:21 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend")
00:04:34draeathnow you should fix robotfindskitten :P (scroll wheel moves character up/down)
00:04:36draeath:P
00:06:04 Join Gnu47 [0] (i=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net)
00:06:43 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
00:06:43 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net)
00:08:12rasherimho, the plugin actions should be changed for targets with a wheel, to not use that for up/down
00:09:08draeathkugel, how do I use this patch? I have it in the rockbox source directory (./apps, ./tools etc is in with it)
00:09:14draeathpatch -i PATCHFILE yells at me
00:09:25draeath(not a programmer)
00:09:36kugelI allways do patch -p0 < PATCHFILE
00:09:42linuxstbrasher: In some cases I think it makes sense - e.g. pong?
00:09:49draeaththats -p0 as in zero right?
00:10:00kugelehm yea
00:10:20rasherlinuxstb: I think the logic should be reversed though
00:10:45linuxstbrasher: You're talking Sansa with it's odd up/down naming for the wheel?
00:11:10rasherlinuxstb: no, I mean that the PLA thing shouldn't use the wheel for up/down
00:11:38linuxstbI was talking about your comment about the logic being reversed.
00:13:12 Join Sedgewick [0] (n=10334AEF@host103-233-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
00:13:43draeathso to install, i just have to unzip the new rockbox.zip into the player right>
00:16:31linuxstbyes
00:17:39 Quit davina ("Ex-Chat")
00:22:09draeathkugel, when running my text editor my screen blanks untill i do something... is that normal?
00:22:26kugelnot sure what you mean
00:23:05draeathi start the text editor plugin and my screen goes dead immediatly, untill i hit a button. If i hit menu (to back out i guess) it goes blank again, one more press puts me on plugin menu
00:24:13draeathoh, the backlight is on during this
00:24:53 Join davidfg4 [0] (n=david@69.51.95.200)
00:26:28davidfg4I am using a sansa e280, is there a way to not have it restart into the original firmware when connected to a computer?
00:26:40davidfg4To listen to music while it charges?
00:27:14saratogadavidfg4: just plug it in while rockbox is on
00:27:35saratogakeep in mind though, while it will power the device off the USB, it will not charge in rockbox
00:27:43davidfg4it automatically restarts into the original firmware
00:27:53saratogaare you running an old build?
00:27:58saratogathat was removed some time ago
00:28:03davidfg4no, pretty recent
00:28:22saratogawhich one
00:28:41 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection)
00:28:49davidfg4There is no way for it to be plugged in and off, so it has to charge and run off usb at the same time
00:29:20davidfg4r15971-071224
00:29:49draeathany idea WHY it won't recharge? whats missing?
00:30:00saratogaFS #8363
00:31:21davidfg4It is recharging, but when connected to a computer, it goes to the original firmware, whether it was off or in rockbox
00:32:07saratogatry updating your build
00:32:13saratogai just confirmed that it does not restart
00:32:26davidfg4ok
00:34:58 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
00:35:06 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
00:35:47davidfg4still restarts...
00:36:16davidfg4it flashes the usb symbol on the screen and restarts
00:36:52saratogais this the official build?
00:37:09davidfg4yes
00:37:46davidfg4it's the "current build" right off of rockbox.org
00:39:17davidfg4do i need to apply FS #8363 and compile it myself?
00:41:35 Nick midkay_ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net)
00:41:50 Quit midkay ("Leaving")
00:43:14saratogadavidfg4: I installed r16001 and plugged/unplugged USB a few times
00:43:21linuxstbamiconn, jhMikeS: Is this the usual ipod PP5002 problem? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14771.0
00:43:29 Quit z35 (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
00:43:36saratogai got it to reboot one time, but after that it just stays in rockbox and have not gotten it to happen again
00:43:48 Join webguest93 [0] (n=84aa2a37@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2960846eb3563cd3)
00:43:59 Quit webguest93 (Client Quit)
00:44:54davidfg4Note this only happens when plugged into the computer, not a AC to usb charger
00:44:54 Join Sandman333 [0] (n=sandman2@port55.public10.resnet.ucf.edu)
00:45:32saratogadavidfg4: yes I am using a computer as well
00:45:46rashersaratoga, davidfg4: What are you connecting it to? Windows or Linux?
00:45:51davidfg4linux
00:45:54saratogaI'm using Windows
00:46:10rasherI think I've noticed differences in behavior
00:46:10saratogai don't think that should matter
00:46:26saratogathe reboot is supposed to be disabled entirely
00:46:38davidfg4If it plug it in shortly after rockbox starts it will stay in rockbox
00:47:27davidfg4but if it's been on more than 10 seconds it will restart
00:48:16davidfg4sometimes
00:49:41 Quit ompaul (Client Quit)
00:49:50 Join misteralarming [0] (n=42a7a8fb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0dadc758a90a5121)
00:50:06davidfg4never mind about the "shortly after" thing, it still seems random
00:50:14davidfg4whether it restarts or stays
00:51:14 Quit draeath ("draeath has no reason")
00:51:46 Quit conando (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
00:52:36misteralarmingdoes anybody know were to get a video plugin for a toshiba f series
00:52:42 Quit duvnel1 (Remote closed the connection)
00:53:35saratogamisteralarming: mpegplayer is built in
00:54:00misteralarmingreally?
00:54:09misteralarming thanx
00:55:06 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@69.92.201.36)
00:55:11kugellinuxstb: thanks for your help, I've done it
00:55:26kugellinuxstb: hide main menu items I mean
01:00
01:05:37***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
01:05:45 Quit misteralarming ("CGI:IRC")
01:09:18 Join baratrion [0] (n=baratrio@85.100.250.157)
01:09:30 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection)
01:10:50 Join lyon8 [0] (n=lyon8@p57AEA11B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
01:10:58lyon8hi ;)
01:11:00baratrionhi all, who is responsible for opening a svn account
01:11:14linuxstbWhat do you mean?
01:11:39 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi)
01:12:04 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
01:13:10lyon8I'm using Rockbox with an iriver h320 and i got some artifacts on my display, just like "salival" in this thread: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7257.0
01:13:41lyon8but the bad thing is: I'm not so much into coding and i don't really understand how i can fix the problem
01:14:08baratrionlinuxstb: I have a translation for RockboxUtility to be committed but I do not have an account to authenticate
01:14:23lyon8i figured out now, how to compile Rockbox on my linux system
01:14:40lyon8but i'm not sure how to set the longer waitstates
01:14:44linuxstbbaratrion: You should create a patch, and post it to the patch tracker. Someone with SVN write access will then review and commit.
01:15:51lyon8what files do i have to edit and how do i get the correct hex-string for the waitstate-number?
01:18:53 Quit ender` (" Remember: A secretary isn't permanent until she's been screwed on the desk...")
01:18:58lyon8amiconn: are you there?
01:25:08 Quit Axio_ ()
01:27:45jhMikeSlinuxstb: yeah, that's the deal with that.
01:32:11 Quit Robin0800 (" Want to be different? Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-")
01:32:47linuxstbjhMikeS: So I see... So the answer in future is to just try random daily builds from the last month until you find one that works?
01:39:02jhMikeSlinuxstb: that's basically it. amiconn noticed that 1,2,3g all seem to be broken or not at the same time too.
01:41:51kroptis FS #6796 scheduled to be replaced by viewports?
01:43:39 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net)
01:43:39 Quit Llorean (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
01:43:40 Join Llorea1 [0] (n=llorean@ppp-70-252-9-182.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net)
01:45:04 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
01:46:23linuxstbkropt: I think so, but I don't understand why that patch is needed...
01:46:28 Part Llorea1
01:47:13kroptlinuxstb, quite honestly, i'm not sure what exactly the patch does
01:54:11 Quit Alonea ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007120410]")
01:54:28 Nick parafin is now known as parafin|away (i=parafin@paraf.in)
02:00
02:00:47 Quit baratrion (Remote closed the connection)
02:02:35 Quit ol_schoola ()
02:06:18 Join z35 [0] (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com)
02:06:19 Quit Sandman333 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
02:06:32 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@ppp-70-252-9-182.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net)
02:07:10 Quit homielowe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
02:13:46 Quit mister_pink ("Leaving")
02:13:46 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)")
02:14:24lyon8ok, i got it so far
02:15:57lyon8i found out that: 0x00003d80 means 15 waitstates, 0x00002180 = 8, 0x00000580 = 1 , 0x00001580 means 5
02:16:21lyon8can somebody please explain me how to "decode" this stuff? thanks
02:22:36 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net)
02:26:00hcslyon8: shift right 10 bit for number of waitstates
02:26:06hcs*10 bits
02:27:23hcslower 10 bits always 0x180
02:29:40 Quit linuxstb ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]")
02:31:28 Nick Gnu47 is now known as AdmiralGnu (i=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net)
02:31:53 Nick AdmiralGnu is now known as Quinn (i=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net)
02:32:08 Quit waldo (Remote closed the connection)
02:32:39 Nick Quinn is now known as Gnu47 (i=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net)
02:36:36 Quit iamben (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
02:36:44lyon8hcs: can you give me an example please? :D
02:37:24 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ba94749c7f86ff71)
02:37:26hcswhat are you trying to do? do you want code? I don't even know what the context of this is
02:37:54lyon8i have to set the waitstates in the Rockbox-code
02:38:46Lloreanhcs: H300 LCD glitching due to insufficient waitstates, if I recall.
02:38:58 Quit z35 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
02:38:59hcs(waitstates<<10)|0x180
02:38:59lyon8cause they're written there in this form and not in decimal...?
02:39:06hcsoh, vice versa
02:39:13saratogaif you just want to know how to shift 10 bits to the right, then its var2 = var >> 10;
02:39:45lyon8so i cannot calculate it in my head?
02:39:51saratogasure you can
02:40:08saratogaconvert to binary, remove 10 bits, convert back to hex
02:40:43lyon8oh shit...i think i have to find a calculator for this :D
02:47:11 Join psycho_maniac [0] (i=psycho_m@ppp127.hk.centurytel.net)
02:47:38lyon815 in binary is 1111 and in Hex F
02:51:01 Join DvsDmn [0] (n=DvsDmn@68.162.181.116)
02:51:19DvsDmn:-) hi
02:51:30lyon8;)
02:53:06lyon8I'll be back
02:53:09lyon8perhaps
02:53:18lyon8gn8 ;)
02:53:20 Quit lyon8 ("back2rl")
02:53:39DvsDmn:-)
03:00
03:01:00 Quit MethoS- ("Konversation terminated!")
03:03:53 Quit bagawk ("leaving")
03:04:57 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.")
03:05:21 Part toffe82
03:05:38***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
03:09:05 Join webguest37 [0] (n=42444ee1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-bdf977e29283aa90)
03:09:46 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection)
03:11:50 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-193-241.pools.arcor-ip.net)
03:12:08 Quit Kupop ("Leaving")
03:12:14 Quit obo ("bye")
03:32:14 Join lassesdatamaski1 [0] (n=sindre@165.80-202-81.nextgentel.com)
03:32:33 Quit webguest37 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)")
03:34:49 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.)
03:34:51 Quit lassesdatamaskin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
03:34:55 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS)
03:35:40 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.)
03:35:43 Join DerDom1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-252-044.pools.arcor-ip.net)
03:35:53 Nick DerDom1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-252-044.pools.arcor-ip.net)
03:36:42 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst)
03:37:26 Quit Sedgewick (Connection timed out)
03:42:25 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net)
03:43:43kugelI have a problem
03:44:05kugelI want to set a directory as music directory
03:44:21kugeljust like it's done for the recording directory
03:44:26 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.")
03:44:41kugelbut it doesn't work, and the recording directory code doesn't seem to work either
03:44:48JdGordon?
03:45:13kugelI'm in onplay.c
03:45:42JdGordonget out while you still have your sanity!!
03:45:50kugel?
03:46:09kugellol
03:46:29JdGordonok, whats the prob?
03:47:21kugelwww.pastebin.ca/843413
03:47:37kugelthis is the code for setting the recoding dir
03:48:01kugelI want to set a directory as music directory, it's pretty similar
03:48:19JdGordonok
03:48:25kugelbut it doesn't work! no path gets written into the config
03:48:41kugelneither for my music dir nor for the rec dir
03:48:46JdGordonI assume youve added it to settings.h?
03:49:06JdGordonto the global_Settings struct
03:49:15kugelyea
03:49:29kugelchar path_to_music[MAX_FILENAME+1];
03:49:43JdGordonok, go into settings_list.c and search for rec_directory and copy that
03:49:53kugelI did that
03:50:52 Quit lassesdatamaski1 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out))
03:51:24JdGordonpastebin a full svn diff
03:51:37saratogaugh i just hit commit on the wrong file
03:51:43saratogahow do I uncommit something?
03:52:57JdGordoncommit the reverse diff?
03:53:07saratogahow do I generate it?
03:53:47saratogaah i see
03:53:57 Quit RoC_MasterMind ("Leaving")
03:53:58JdGordonsvn diff -rold:new
03:54:00kugelwww.pastebin.ca/843417
03:55:40JdGordonodd
03:55:47JdGordonI dont see anything obviously wrong there
03:56:18kugelI mostly copied from setting the rec directory
03:56:31kugelbut, that doesn't work so that might be the problem
03:57:22JdGordonrec directory should work
03:57:58 Quit hannesd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
03:57:58 Nick hannesd_ is now known as hannesd (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net)
03:58:34psycho_maniacjust curious, why would you want to set the music directory?
03:58:39kugel nothing happens when I hit "Set as recording directory"
03:59:57kugelpsycho_maniac: I want to replace the database item in the main menu for those who prefer to browser their music in the filebrowser
04:00
04:00:21JdGordonkugel: you know that patch wont be accepted right?
04:00:30psycho_maniacso when you hit "database" it will just go to your music directory?
04:01:00kugelyes, except that it's not called database, but music
04:01:26kugelJdGordon: I don't know that, but I didn't think about that yet
04:02:11 Join qwedsa_ [0] (n=superman@ip51ccca31.speed.planet.nl)
04:02:16psycho_maniacI think that if Database isnt set up then it shouldnt show up in the main menu. but i still like it in the main menu
04:02:51kugelI have a setting implemented
04:03:09kugeleither the database or the music item shows up
04:03:15kugelnot that I kill the database
04:04:15kugelJdGordon: Why doesn't have a chance for committing?
04:05:13 Join Clickster [0] (n=enwods@82.152.33.50)
04:05:21ClicksterHi all :D
04:05:38Clicksterhave a slight problem, anyone willing to help?
04:05:58psycho_maniacjust state your problem
04:06:47ClicksterWell, i saved bootloader version 7-pre3 to my player, then clicked on it and it said "ROLO, executing" and has been on this screen for a good few minutes now.
04:06:51 Join japc_ [0] (n=japc@bl7-244-54.dsl.telepac.pt)
04:07:52psycho_maniacI dont think thats how your supposed to update the bootloader. What player?
04:07:57Clicksterby clicked i mean, short press of navigation stick... (Iriver-H140 btw, forgot that)
04:08:10Clicksternah, i realised just after i'd clicked it, damn tiredness
04:08:56Clicksterany suggestions? should i try switching it off?
04:10:02kugelJdGordon: Are you gone?
04:10:03psycho_maniacwell i dont think you can do anything to the player the way it is. and if you dont do anything its just going to kill the battery.
04:10:20ClicksterHmmm, what'd you suggest I do?
04:11:01psycho_maniacIf that was me I would reset it, but im not sure what other people think .
04:11:23ClicksterAnyone else got an opinion? Thanks btw psycho_maniac
04:11:37JdGordonkugel: soz, back
04:11:45JdGordonits just my opinion that it wont get it
04:11:48Clicksterstuff it, think i'll just go for the reset, *touch wood it doesn't brick it*
04:11:59kugelAnd why?
04:12:04kugelJust curious
04:12:15JdGordonbecause its pointless and add nothing?
04:13:07kugelnah, it adds a save of 1 click and probably scrolling, including applying a proper file filter
04:13:19kugelanyway, do you have any idea why it doesn't work?
04:13:21Clicksterok, pheew, doesn't boot RB anymore, just poxy old iriver firmware
04:13:48psycho_maniacI would suggest to read on the wiki how to update the bootloader properly on the iriver
04:14:25JdGordonkugel: no, i cant see why it wouldnt work :(
04:14:51 Quit qwedsa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
04:14:59ClicksterYeah, don't entirely understand it though (is it just "open with-flash...." to the bootloader file?
04:15:09 Quit japc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
04:15:21kugelany idea who could have made the code for setting the rec dir?
04:16:10psycho_maniacdoes it know why to set that directory? like I have to set this directory so (this) can do (that)
04:16:38JdGordonkugel: I might.....
04:16:41JdGordonit was me :p
04:16:47kugeloh
04:17:29kugelI've noticed on my e200 once, but I didn't care since I rarely use recording
04:17:47JdGordonI dont use it so thought it works... it doesnt with svn?
04:18:03Clicksterooop no, rockbox is still working.
04:18:41 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)")
04:18:46JdGordonI think i know your p[roblem :)
04:19:04kugelNo, it doesn't work with svn
04:19:07JdGordonkugel: you have to double check... but I dont think selected_file is the full path
04:19:11psycho_maniacoh yeah Clickster when you reset the player it will go into the OF first then turn it off and then on again, or reset it again, i cant remember. and it will load rockbox.
04:20:15*JdGordon has nfi how viewports is supposed to work with screen_access :'(
04:20:34ClicksterYeah, cheers :D Can anyone explain how to upgrade to bootloader version 7-pre3 on the H140 in idiots terms?
04:20:54psycho_maniacDid you look on the wiki?
04:21:04kugelJdGordon: Even if it would be the full path, there's nothing written into the config.cfg
04:21:29JdGordonadd a settings_save() after the strncpy
04:22:52psycho_maniacClickster: actually i would check the manual
04:23:30ClicksterOhh yeah, misread a part of it, long click on it not a short one. Thanks
04:24:27kugelJdGordon: yea, that helps
04:24:47kugelsetting rec dir works now
04:25:38Clicksterok, take two
04:25:45 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-71-154-232-226.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net)
04:26:47 Join matmat07 [0] (n=matmat07@modemcable020.200-131-66.mc.videotron.ca)
04:26:59kugelJdGordon: you should commit that bugfix asap ;)
04:27:26 Part matmat07
04:28:59Clicksterphew, flashed a new bootloader, thanks psycho_maniac :D
04:29:36 Join countrymonkeyweb [0] (n=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2238ebaf4be9217c)
04:30:09countrymonkeywebI built a sim to try the fm radio in rb since I don't have an fmradio target, but it just says no presets. Why?
04:31:18psycho_maniacbecause there are none. you have to set them
04:32:11Clickster"The ROM image is run directly from flash ROM. The RAM image is loaded from ROM and executed in RAM. It's recommended to have the ROM image present, because it can be started using the reset button and the bootloader's reset cookie failsafe system." what exactly does this mean?
04:32:29Clicksteris it saying it's best to use the ROM image?
04:32:50Clickster... directly from ROM
04:33:10 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B13E76.dip.t-dialin.net)
04:34:40kugelgreat
04:34:51kugelpatch is working
04:35:36 Quit countrymonkeyweb ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)")
04:39:50ClicksterWoop, successfully flashed RB :D
04:44:24 Quit Clickster ()
04:45:47 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
04:46:09 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF4309.dip.t-dialin.net)
04:50:39 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
04:51:04 Join webguest20 [0] (n=4aa794a0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9f18a79b5d2cad0d)
04:56:32 Quit webguest20 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)")
05:00
05:00:52 Join duvnel1 [0] (n=ddurham@c-76-107-111-150.hsd1.ms.comcast.net)
05:01:20duvnel1ok, I've got a patch file ready that implements pretty decent sliderpad functionality for the iRiver H10 series
05:02:33duvnel1should I just submit it via the patches link on the left side of the homepage?
05:03:11duvnel1does anyone else use the H10 here?
05:04:10duvnel1(6gig) I've noticed that the docs mention a auto meter during playback, but I don't have one on mine.. also the playback hangs for several periods on when I start playback for some time.
05:05:05psycho_maniacyes submit it via the patches link
05:05:40***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
05:06:06duvnel1registering..
05:07:09 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
05:08:59 Join Yiggi [0] (n=kahurst@12-216-187-235.client.mchsi.com)
05:17:44 Part DvsDmn
05:19:36duvnel1submitted
05:19:41psycho_maniachurray
05:19:44duvnel1http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8409
05:23:06duvnel1my first of perhaps many future contributions :)
05:23:22psycho_maniacnow lest hope somebody with a h10 test t
05:23:28duvnel1now for the clicky noise when the user presses a button .. ooooOOOoooo so important
05:23:33duvnel1I tested it :)
05:25:16YiggiI don't think I missed it, but I haven't seen anything about watching "normal" i.e. non mpeg movies I have on my ipod in Rockbox. Is that possible or do I have to reboot into the original Ipod software to do that?
05:25:42psycho_maniacyou mean videos you add via iTunes? you have to use the OF for that.
05:26:49YiggiYes. OF = Original Firmware? Oh well, not too much of a hassle I suppose.
05:28:36psycho_maniacyes OF= original firmware
05:30:23duvnel1probably an encryption issue there
05:32:00psycho_maniacno just rockbox doesnt support those videos
05:33:26 Quit mrkiko ("Lost terminal")
05:41:49 Quit soap (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
05:42:20 Quit qwm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
05:43:24 Quit Yiggi ()
05:43:44 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]")
05:44:31 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@unaffiliated/kugel)
05:44:33 Quit kugel (Client Quit)
05:44:35 Join soap [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap)
05:44:57 Quit soap (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
05:47:28 Join soap [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap)
05:47:38 Quit soap (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
05:52:35 Join soap [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap)
05:55:52 Quit soap (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
05:57:47 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
05:58:58 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net)
05:59:19 Join soap [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap)
06:00
06:07:35 Join DogBoy [0] (n=john@66-101-59-100-static.dsl.oplink.net)
06:10:26 Join loklaan [0] (n=3a604170@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ad74c39e7c30175b)
06:12:32 Quit loklaan (Client Quit)
06:13:27 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net)
06:15:07 Quit psycho_maniac (" bye")
06:15:24 Join loklaan [0] (n=bunsiebu@112.65.96.58.exetel.com.au)
06:16:08 Join newnick [0] (n=dcf04f86@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-515c3f30643d2ab1)
06:16:12 Quit newnick (Client Quit)
06:16:36 Join veganarkismo [0] (n=dcf04f86@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d4b7a37f8d72e59f)
06:16:42veganarkismoHi :)
06:16:46 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019)
06:16:55veganarkismoDoes anyone know how to get album art onto rockbox?
06:16:58 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.)
06:17:03loklaanumm
06:17:18loklaandoes your theme cover album art?
06:17:21 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019)
06:17:47veganarkismoyes, it's the "black glass + album art" theme
06:17:51loklaanah
06:18:01loklaanwell
06:18:19loklaanfirstly, you have to have the album art in .bmp format
06:18:35 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp119-113.adsl.forthnet.gr)
06:18:48veganarkismoooh
06:18:51loklaanyep
06:18:57veganarkismowhere are the album art image files stored?
06:19:06loklaanand the cover art has strick naming rules
06:19:11loklaan 1. ./ filename .bmp - same filename as currently playing music file
06:19:11loklaan 2. ./ albumtitle .bmp - name of the album, found in metadata of the music file
06:19:11loklaan 3. ./ cover.bmp
06:19:11DBUGEnqueued KICK loklaan
06:19:11loklaan 4. ../ albumtitle .bmp
06:19:11loklaan 5. ../ cover.bmp
06:19:23loklaanthats the naming options
06:19:36loklaanthey have to be in the same directory as the music your playing
06:19:39 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
06:19:54 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019)
06:19:57krazykitloklaan, in the future, please link the wiki page and don't flood the channel like that
06:20:10veganarkismooh ok thanks :)
06:20:14loklaanoh poo i just came on here to ask a question sorry
06:20:33loklaanurgh yeah anyway http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AlbumArt
06:20:48veganarkismolol
06:21:32veganarkismocheers
06:21:33loklaancan anyone tell me how..i have rockbox source, because i wanted to apply some patches to things, but i dont know how to boot of the source, can anyone help me here?
06:21:34veganarkismo:)
06:21:36loklaannp man
06:22:00krazykitloklaan, have you read the SimpleGuideToCompiling page?
06:22:17krazykitand WorkingWithPatches (i think it's called)
06:22:19loklaanoo no that would be a great help though, is it in the wiki?
06:22:24krazykityes it is
06:22:28loklaanyeah workingwithpatches yep read that
06:22:43loklaanok thanks heaps krazykit ;]
06:23:58 Quit soap (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
06:24:09 Join flyback- [0] (n=ubuntu@c-24-131-197-176.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
06:24:28 Part flyback- ("Ex-Chat")
06:25:13 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
06:25:37 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF45D1.dip.t-dialin.net)
06:26:52loklaanOHHHH
06:27:39loklaanso i apply the patches in my computer on the source, then compile it into the filan product, THEN put that on the player OMGGGG thanks so much krazykit
06:28:02loklaanfinal*
06:28:39krazykitloklaan, yep, that's how it works. there's some more information in the "for developers" section of the index
06:34:00 Join soap [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap)
06:41:37 Quit homielowe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
06:46:14 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
06:46:21 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF4427.dip.t-dialin.net)
06:46:22 Join qwm [0] (i=qwm@c83-254-194-26.bredband.comhem.se)
06:51:18 Quit m0f0x (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
06:54:36 Join alienbiker99 [0] (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net)
06:57:07loklaanhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment
06:57:15loklaanStep 2.1 couldnt be covered
06:57:18loklaanis that ok?
06:58:34 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@69.92.201.36)
06:58:47krazykityou need all of the packages other than the "if you want" ones
06:59:30loklaanthat page wasnt in the setup.exe
06:59:47loklaanso i should download the packages seperatly from the websites database right?
07:00
07:00:04krazykiti don't know, i don't use cygwin.
07:00:08loklaanStep 3 was in the install though
07:00:13loklaanoh ok
07:01:23loklaani would ask for what you are using but unlike cygwin, i dont think it would have as many instructions written
07:01:53krazykiti use linux.
07:02:21krazykitactually though, there IS a vmware image you could use that's set up with everything you need
07:05:44***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
07:07:30loklaanreally
07:07:47loklaando you know where it is?
07:08:12 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay)
07:08:12loklaanand lol@using linux, that didnt even occur to me XD
07:08:32krazykitloklaan, should be on the wiki. do a search for vmware
07:13:38 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
07:14:17loklaanawesome, looks easy, thansk for keeping your mind open ;]
07:16:09 Quit JohnEK ()
07:18:53loklaanits rather big though..145mb >.<
07:19:21krazykitit's a one-time download :)
07:20:00 Quit Alonea ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]")
07:27:59loklaanmight play a bit of counter strike source while i download everything ;]
07:28:01loklaanbye bye
07:28:16loklaanand thanks again for all your help, might be on later for morrre haha ;]
07:28:40 Quit loklaan ()
07:35:56 Quit Buschel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
07:36:09 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3F97E.dip.t-dialin.net)
07:38:28 Quit ol_schoola ()
07:41:04 Quit japc_ (Remote closed the connection)
07:50:54 Join xushi [0] (n=xushi@unaffiliated/xushi)
07:56:05 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
07:56:39 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B13E76.dip.t-dialin.net)
08:00
08:02:38 Join Shaid` [0] (i=shaid@203-217-66-184.dyn.iinet.net.au)
08:09:25 Part toffe82
08:09:44 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B16FE8.dip.t-dialin.net)
08:10:27 Quit Tyroazard (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
08:20:13kropt happy 16000 revision, by the way
08:21:44 Quit Shaid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
08:21:45 Nick Shaid` is now known as Shaid (i=shaid@203-217-66-184.dyn.iinet.net.au)
08:26:38 Join faginAway [0] (n=whuffor@ua-83-227-143-18.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)
08:27:20 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
08:53:07 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul)
09:00
09:05:45***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
09:09:29 Join Buschel_ [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3DF1A.dip.t-dialin.net)
09:12:47 Quit Buschel_ (Client Quit)
09:13:01 Join Buschel_ [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3DF1A.dip.t-dialin.net)
09:14:07 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!")
09:14:44 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
09:21:37 Quit Buschel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
09:24:22 Join replix [0] (n=Atlan@87-73.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch)
09:24:40replixare there "v2" versions of the Sansa e200R series?
09:25:01replixor will rockbox run on _every_ Rhapsody model?
09:25:33DogBoythose types of questions are difficult to answer
09:25:49DogBoysomeone would have to test every model
09:27:34JdGordonmost likely it wont run on a v2 rapsody.. if such a thing exists
09:28:17 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF66B2.dip.t-dialin.net)
09:31:48 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!")
09:33:42 Join Schnueff [0] (n=mah@88.134.59.235)
09:33:50replixrockbox doesn't support USB, right?
09:34:39amiconnwrong
09:34:56amiconnAt least as the huge generalisation you implied
09:44:26replixi mean file transfer
09:44:42amiconnYes of course
09:44:50replixbtw, am i able to play GBA-Games on rockbox?
09:44:57 Join loklaan [0] (n=bunsiebu@112.65.96.58.exetel.com.au)
09:45:42CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
09:45:42*amiconn recommends reading the manual
09:46:36amiconnRockbox runs on a total of 23 targets (that's only counting different builds)
09:47:07amiconnOn many of them, USB is fully supported. Only on the portalplayer based targets we don't have usb file transfer support in rockbox yet
09:47:17amiconn(but that's in the works)
09:48:09replixsansa is portalplayer-based, isn't it?
09:48:27amiconnOn portalplayer targets, rockbox reboots into the OF when it detects an usb connection, so it's kind-of supported too (although that reboot isn't 100% reliable, so you need to reboot manually sometimes)
09:48:28amiconnyes
09:48:42replixok
09:48:46amiconnBut you didn't say 'sansa' so far, you just said 'rockbox'
09:49:17replixi read somewhere on the rockbox page, that charging with rockbox is much slower than charging with the original firmware on sansa
09:49:25replixsry
09:56:32 Quit ompaul (Client Quit)
09:57:32 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.)
09:57:39 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn)
09:58:46 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-159-75.home1.cgocable.net)
09:59:58 Join makuseru [0] (n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com)
10:00
10:00:22makuseruis there a manual for the Simularor? i cant figure out what keys do what buttons
10:02:59scorcheare you running it with −−background?
10:03:39 Join lochlan [0] (n=bunsiebu@112.65.96.58.exetel.com.au)
10:05:56makuseruno im noty
10:05:58makuserunot&
10:06:00makuseru**
10:06:23lochlanhey someone i need help
10:07:21 Join Redbreva [0] (n=Miranda@host86-149-96-138.range86-149.btcentralplus.com)
10:07:43lochlani entered the command "svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox" into VMware, and its compiling everything right? but to where?
10:08:26scorcheit is downloading the source, and from that commant, it is doing it into <wherever you ran the command from>/rockbox/
10:08:44lochlanohhhh ok, i read that somewhere too
10:08:50lochlanhow to i cancel the download?
10:08:54lochlanexit that wondow
10:08:57lochlanwindow
10:08:58lochlanok
10:09:01lochlanummm
10:09:01makuseruscorche: what does running -background do?
10:09:38lochlani already have the source, how do i load it into VMware and then compile it?
10:09:46scorchemakuseru: it includes an image of the device with the keys to hit next to the buttons
10:10:22scorchelochlan: we have a few wikipages on that subject...
10:10:56makuseruscorche: oh, ok. thanks
10:12:53 Quit loklaan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
10:13:17makuseruscorche: are there any automatic installers for linux?
10:13:36scorchemakuseru: rbutil has linux binaries...
10:13:57 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
10:14:00 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF653C.dip.t-dialin.net)
10:14:03 Quit veganarkismo ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)")
10:15:09lochlanhmm still kinda blind on this
10:15:50lochlani enter "cmd [foldername] to set the path to the source right?
10:16:09lochlan"cmd [foldername]"**
10:17:32 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host202-211-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
10:20:55Schnueff.oO( cd ) ?
10:23:17lochlanyeah cd
10:23:19lochlanhmm
10:32:33 Join AKWIN_ [0] (i=David@161-151-58-66.gci.net)
10:32:37AKWIN_hello
10:35:31lochlanhi
10:38:02lochlancan some one healp me please
10:38:17lochlani im hopeless right now ah
10:38:24AKWIN_what
10:38:44AKWIN_don't cry, we can help!
10:38:55lochlani downloaded rockbox source, now i want to "load" it in VMware(the compiler)
10:39:17lochlandowbloaded it via daily builds, not the command
10:39:34AKWIN_i have no idea
10:39:38lochlanhaha
10:39:55AKWIN_i'v compiled before, but that was before i got an ipod touch
10:39:57lochlanso you have no idea how to point out the directory?
10:40:02lochlanah
10:40:11AKWIN_oh, the directory?
10:40:16lochlanyeah
10:40:27lochlando i need to put the rockbox source somewhere?
10:40:33lochlanand then point to it
10:41:10lochlansomething like C:\Rockbox\rockbox-XXXXXXXX
10:41:17AKWIN_why do you need to compile when you can get it precompiled
10:41:28lochlanpatching
10:41:43lochlanputting in uncompiled apps
10:41:51AKWIN_rockbox source cannot be compiled within the windows enviorment
10:42:02lochlanyeah it can
10:42:02AKWIN_it needs to be put into the vmware
10:42:09lochlanyep
10:42:27 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com)
10:42:39lochlani have vmware, i just dont know how to setup the directory so i can compile
10:42:53AKWIN_RELTIH LIEH
10:43:00lochlan:|
10:43:35lochlansomething hitler?
10:43:43lochlanstranggge
10:43:45AKWIN_SWEJ YTRID
10:43:52lochlanhaha
10:44:00lochlanXD
10:44:10AKWIN_it's the source encryption keys.
10:44:17AKWIN_why is that funny?
10:45:11AKWIN_and the 0x03042 key is SREGGIN
10:45:22LloreanAKWIN_: Please stay on topic, and stop being silly
10:45:30 Quit replix ("Verlassend")
10:45:30AKWIN_sorry
10:45:42Lloreanlochlan: You can download the source from inside the VMWare image. See the UsingSVN wiki page, I think it was
10:46:19AKWIN_anyway, does anyone have the datasheets for the ipod touch's chipset?
10:46:49LloreanAs far as we know, they aren't plublic
10:46:49lochlanso i have to download it again, poo
10:46:52Lloreanpublic
10:47:04Lloreanlochlan: SVN is a better way to do it anyway, that way you can update properly without having to repatch.
10:47:15lochlanoh ok
10:47:17LloreanIt also means you need to download much less each time you want to update.
10:47:25lochlanohhh
10:47:27lochlanok sweet
10:47:32lochlandidnt think of thattt
10:47:41lochlanyou know updating, didnt even occur to me
10:48:23 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk)
10:48:31AKWIN_wish the ipod touch was pubic
10:48:34AKWIN_public
10:49:39 Nick AKWIN_ is now known as NoswarDivad (i=David@161-151-58-66.gci.net)
10:51:01 Nick lochlan is now known as loklaan (n=bunsiebu@112.65.96.58.exetel.com.au)
10:53:23NoswarDivadI downloaded BSD Subsystem from installer.app but it won't work
10:54:47LloreanWhat does that have to do with Rockbox?
10:55:11NoswarDivadRockbox is a form of BSD, right?
10:55:32LloreanNo.
10:55:32scorcheno
10:56:28loklaanhow long do you think download rockbox source from the svn will take on 1.5mb connection?
10:59:08NoswarDivadWe have spongebob and toys, all we need now are children
10:59:30Schnueffhalf an hour?
10:59:36scorcheNoswarDivad: please stay on topic...
10:59:50Schnueffit's 226M here
11:00
11:00:01Schnueffah, divide that by 2
11:00:20NoswarDivad113
11:00:29loklaanis that directed to me Schnueff?
11:00:33Schnueffyes
11:01:09loklaanwhats the 226m mean?
11:01:18 Part NoswarDivad ("Leaving")
11:01:38 Join Molester [0] (i=David@161-151-58-66.gci.net)
11:01:43Schnueffthe size, approx 226 million bytes divided by 2
11:02:17loklaanand you get 113M?
11:02:17Molesterhey kids
11:02:25loklaanhey old man
11:02:38 Part Molester ("Leaving")
11:03:00 Join AK-Windows [0] (i=David@161-151-58-66.gci.net)
11:03:12scorcheAK-Windows: stop that
11:04:00AK-Windowsis there a way to show files on rockbox like that of windows or mac?
11:04:13scorchewhat do you mean?
11:04:30Schnueffloklaan: yes
11:04:33AK-WindowsIcons that arent just listed
11:05:10scorcheAK-Windows: still dont get you...
11:05:48***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
11:05:57AK-WindowsRockbox Icons/Menu items in an explorer like form, the icons are just listed up and down on rockbox, what i mean is like more of a grid than a line
11:06:21scorcheno
11:07:22AK-Windowslike this
11:08:13scorchedont just send me a file like that...
11:11:47LloreanRockbox is list based
11:11:57LloreanNobody has coded up non-list views for files.
11:11:58loklaanyessss
11:12:02loklaani did iiit
11:12:44loklaaneveryone congratulate me, i just compiled my first...anything haha
11:13:40Schnueffgrats
11:14:17AK-Windowsgnats
11:14:47 Join Axio_ [0] (n=Axio@alf94-1-81-57-140-233.fbx.proxad.net)
11:16:17loklaanthanks ^_^
11:16:31AK-WindowsXD
11:18:39loklaanhaha im so crap
11:18:45loklaanok i did compile it
11:18:51loklaanbut where did it go?
11:18:56loklaanim using vmware
11:19:03loklaando i open it with vmware?
11:19:26AK-Windowsyou type make zip
11:19:42AK-Windowsit went into the current dir
11:19:49loklaanoh yeah did that too
11:19:55scorcheit is in the image...you need to transfer it off to somewhere in your computer's filesystem
11:19:55loklaanbut where is the current dir?
11:20:01loklaanohhhh
11:20:07loklaanwhats the command for that?
11:20:20AK-Windowsyou need a util
11:20:28scorcheno you dont
11:20:30AK-Windowslike....WinImage
11:20:34AK-Windowsreally?
11:20:43loklaanvmware should have a util like that right?
11:20:59scorcheno. you dont.
11:21:03scorcheloklaan: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform#File_sharing
11:21:17AK-Windowsoh, and folder sharing
11:21:24loklaanOH filesharing through the platforms
11:21:25loklaancool
11:21:28 Join S [0] (n=john@dslb-084-060-157-233.pools.arcor-ip.net)
11:21:29loklaanthanks once again
11:21:47AK-Windowsi never figured out how to work the folder sharing....
11:22:33 Quit amiconn (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish!")
11:23:04loklaanwell it was piss easy for me just then
11:23:23loklaan\\debian\user into explorer, then put in log/pass and its all goods
11:25:46loklaando i need to first put in command "make" then "make zip", or can i just put in "make zip" after establashing the dir?
11:26:02scorchethe former
11:26:09loklaanok cool
11:28:43 Join linuxstb [0] (n=chatzill@84.Red-217-125-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net)
11:30:38 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p5B030DC9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
11:36:51 Join khermans [0] (n=khermans@c-75-67-197-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
11:37:48khermanswhy cant rbutil tell between ipod 30 or 60/80 −− in ipodpatche, it knows version and disk size
11:37:52khermans?
11:38:10khermansit seems a simple matter of checking the disk size for that device
11:39:54LloreanBecause the disk size isn't actually the important information
11:39:59LloreanThe important information is how much RAM it has.
11:40:33LloreanIf it checked and found a 40, what should it do? An 80 could be a 30 hardware with a new drive or it could be a real 80?
11:40:48LloreanWe can't tell these things, so we play it safe and install the build that'll work on both.
11:41:26khermansLlorean, hrmm funny there is no way to detect the RAM size :-(
11:41:50Lloreankhermans: You can't detect it from the PC, no.
11:41:55AK-WindowsUse chkram
11:42:16AK-Windowschkram -c /dev/(device)
11:42:39Bagderand how on earth would that know?
11:42:49khermansi dont even know whatchkram is
11:43:04khermansdoesnt seem like a std util
11:43:24AK-WindowsBadger, it checks the ram through usb
11:43:42Bagderhahaha
11:44:02BagderI think you better read up on how these things work
11:44:25Bagdersorry, I don't mean to be rude but I found it funny
11:45:36AK-WindowsSorry, i didn't mean to confuzzle one's ears, i was merely practical joking!
11:45:45AK-WindowsOh, the mirth!
11:47:17 Nick S is now known as conando (n=john@dslb-084-060-157-233.pools.arcor-ip.net)
11:47:37khermansLlorean, can you do it by iserial ?
11:47:59linuxstbIt _is_ possible to detect the RAM size, it just hasn't been implemented - http://ipodlinux.org/Device_Information
11:50:06Bagdersure, but hardly by a generic tool
11:50:15Bagderunless it is crafted for these devices
11:50:39 Quit makuseru (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
11:50:51khermansi used lsusb to grab the serial
11:51:14khermansare they actually "serial" ?
11:51:42khermans iSerial 3 000A27001531B477
11:51:47linuxstbBut IIUC, we want to unify the 32MB/64MB builds anyway, so it's a moot point.
11:52:40 Join lyon8 [0] (n=lyon8@p57AEA11B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
11:53:09Bagdertrue
11:53:24lyon8hey ;)
11:55:56 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net)
11:59:00lyon8I have been here yesterday with my H300 screen corrumption problem
11:59:31lyon8i changed the waitstates and now it works fine
11:59:45 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ppp126-161.adsl.forthnet.gr)
12:00
12:00:11lyon8but: can i set every value from 0 to 15?
12:08:47 Quit AK-Windows ("Leaving")
12:09:14 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955BF4F.dip.t-dialin.net)
12:09:55 Quit xushi ()
12:11:11loklaandoes anyone have any recomendations for patches for the iaudiox5?
12:13:47 Join webguest36 [0] (n=5621c36a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-bcecc5e4fc98952c)
12:14:51 Join xushi [0] (n=xushi@unaffiliated/xushi)
12:15:40webguest36hi, is someone working on the wake-up via alarm feature for the sansa E200?
12:36:15 Join lassesdatamaskin [0] (n=sindre@165.80-202-81.nextgentel.com)
12:37:26webguest36or have the AS3514 datasheet that i can implement the feature?
12:41:24 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur)
12:44:00 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn)
12:45:10 Nick parafin|away is now known as parafin (i=parafin@paraf.in)
12:47:23 Quit Lynx_ (" Like VS.net's GUI? Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-")
12:49:43 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net)
12:57:20 Join bluebrother [0] (n=Dom@16.121.113.82.net.de.o2.com)
13:00
13:02:13 Join pixelma [0] (n=Marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma)
13:05:53***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
13:06:13 Join rossw [0] (n=ross@90.209.248.189)
13:06:18rosswHi
13:06:41rosswIm in the market for a new mp3/mp4 player and i was wondering which of the ones supported by rockbox you guys/gals recommend?
13:07:23bluebrotherrossw: check the BuyersGuide wiki page
13:07:35peturhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide
13:07:38rosswbluebrother: ok, will do, thanks
13:07:52rosswpetur: found it just as you posted a link :P
13:08:30rosswoh, there are only two in production...
13:08:53peturthe rest is on ebay ;)
13:09:27rosswrecommend one then? i dont know how to decide haha
13:09:51 Quit lazka (Remote closed the connection)
13:10:16peturit all depends on your needs
13:10:44rosswas long as its like 6gb+
13:10:49rosswthats my only need
13:12:45 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi)
13:13:07 Join makuseru [0] (n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com)
13:14:08makuseruumm... i accidently changed the name of the rockbox folder on my MP3 player, and now when i plug it in it says " NO SYSTEM FOUND ON HDD" and when i plug it into the computer and turn it on it wont recognize it so that i can change the folder back. what can i do?
13:15:06rosswi might be wrong to say this since ive been in this channel 5 mins, but would it not help if you specified what sort of mp3 player you actaully have?
13:15:09moosmakuseru: which rockbox target do you use? you have to use the original firmware
13:15:31makuserurossw: no need to be a jerk
13:15:45rosswi wasnt
13:16:00makuserumoos: just /.rockbox , and i dont believe i do
13:16:05rosswand if you thought i was, im sorry
13:16:32moosmakuseru: what is your mp3 player model?
13:16:34makuserumy mistake
13:16:40makuseruthe Toshiba Gigabeat
13:16:51moosthere we go :)
13:17:09 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54965A40.dip.t-dialin.net)
13:18:05webguest36is someone developing features for the sansa E200? ...because i want to implement the alarm wake-up...
13:19:06 Quit lee-qid (Client Quit)
13:19:34 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-252-044.pools.arcor-ip.net)
13:20:46makuseruso any ideas on what i can do to get it back up and running?
13:21:40moosmakuseru: already checked this? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatFXPort#Gigabeat_Recovery_Procedures
13:22:26makuseruno i havent
13:22:29makuseruill try it now
13:22:46makuseruwait
13:22:50makuseruno CD
13:22:52makuserudarn
13:23:06moostry to find it via toshiba site maybe
13:23:15makuserui dont use windows
13:23:50makuseruand im sure anyting they would have would be windows only
13:25:43mooswebguest36: if there is no patch in the tracker, then noone is actually working in, feel free to
13:27:04webguest36i found no patch for it.... i will if someone can give me the AS3514 datasheet... all i have is the AS3514 feature overview :-(
13:28:14 Join stewball`ghost [0] (n=WTFOMGBB@91.106.248.71)
13:28:26mooswebguest36: you have to ask Bagder for the datasheet cause they aren't availiable for the public
13:29:09webguest36@makuseru: i think OS is not important for the recovery procedure... important is to boot the device withouut the HDD than reconnect the HDD that you can see it (as mass storage device) and restore the .rockbox folder
13:30:30webguest36thank you moos i will ask bagder
13:32:25*Buschel_ experiments with freq scaling again (or better: still)
13:32:30mooswebguest36: no problem, maybe you can mail him? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DanielStenberg
13:33:00moosBuschel: courage :)
13:34:04Buschel_I did change the stuff a little bit and hope to get stable scaling now. yesterday evening it ran for ~3h before I stopped the runtime test.
13:35:14Buschel_that's a good sign as using 24MHz without PLL crashed with the old scaling :)
13:37:07makuserumoos: thanks alot, that fixed it
13:37:41moosmakuseru: no problemo
13:38:22 Quit bluebrother ("Verlassend")
13:39:45ShaidSansa E280. Quick question. How do I force a reboot?
13:39:58ShaidI was deleting files and it's decided to hang while deleting one
13:40:39pixelmahold "power" for 10..15 seconds will shut it off
13:41:38 Quit Schnueff ("bbl")
13:41:41Shaidthanks
13:48:39 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
13:48:53 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6AE3.dip.t-dialin.net)
13:51:39 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
13:53:23 Join bertrik [0] (n=Bertrik_@240-022-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl)
13:55:19amiconnrrrr
13:56:05 Join j0tt [0] (n=j@unaffiliated/jott)
13:58:53 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo)
14:00
14:03:11 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.242.168)
14:09:08 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p5B23E260.dip.t-dialin.net)
14:09:10 Quit jott (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
14:09:22 Join nanok [0] (n=nanok@194.145.183.75)
14:09:25DerPapsthi all :-)
14:11:27 Join Ak-colliquy [0] (n=root@161-151-58-66.gci.net)
14:14:39conandohi jesus :)
14:14:46conandouh papst
14:14:57Ak-colliquydoes anyone know the way to set the PATH?
14:15:48Ak-colliquyI'm using my itouch for IRC
14:17:35Ak-colliquyhey
14:18:50DerPapstitouch = Logitech keyboard...
14:21:16 Quit loklaan ()
14:25:24 Quit Ak-colliquy (Remote closed the connection)
14:25:40moosanyone have troubles with svn.rockbox.org ?
14:26:00 Join Ak-colliquy [0] (n=root@161-151-58-66.gci.net)
14:26:09BigBambimoos: no, seems fine
14:27:20moosBigBambi: ok merci, probably a problem in my own (Unknown hostname error here for svn.rockbox.org)
14:27:39BigBambide rien :) I just svn up'd fine
14:28:02mooshere I canot :(
14:28:24lyon8Ak-colliquy: export PATH="/the/first/path:/the/second/path:.."
14:34:34 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@unaffiliated/kugel)
14:36:09 Quit rossw ("leaving")
14:40:41Ak-colliquysvnner
14:41:25 Quit Ak-colliquy (Remote closed the connection)
14:42:01 Part linuxstb
14:46:43 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
14:47:08 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF70EE.dip.t-dialin.net)
14:50:09 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@hdp186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl)
15:00
15:05:54***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
15:11:18lyon8hmmm...
15:11:21 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.)
15:11:23 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar)
15:11:35lyon8i want do create an own build and use some patches
15:12:10lyon8what source should i get? daily, svn?
15:12:59DerPapstsvn
15:13:03DerPapstalways.
15:13:28lyon8ok, cause i tryed daily just by now, and there's not a single patch which worked
15:13:48DerPapstjust use svn to check out the source.
15:14:08DerPapstalso some patches might be out of sync already.
15:14:54lyon8hmm..ah, ok
15:15:14lyon8so I'll have a look how to use SVN
15:17:33lyon8checking out means downloading it then, aye?
15:17:48DerPapstit's al documented in the wiki. pretty easy to use :-)
15:17:54DerPapstyep
15:18:03 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε")
15:18:20 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ppp126-161.adsl.forthnet.gr)
15:18:35 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/")
15:18:51lyon8DerPapst: yeah, i just found it, thanks
15:19:13lyon8should i get a recent copy or give a date with -r?
15:19:29DerPapstalways a recent copy.
15:19:41DerPapstor do you want outdated builds?
15:20:12lyon8i'm not sure; you know: the patches might be older and thus it could resolve in problems
15:20:22lyon8just like with the daily build
15:21:08DerPapstheh... normally the patches that are out of sync broke weeks ago.
15:21:40lyon8ah, ok
15:22:05lyon8so it's pretty sure that the patches on the site work with the recent svn version?
15:25:05DerPapstas i said. not all patches are in sync anymore. and when they aren't they probably broke weeks if not month ago.
15:26:06 Join ch4os_ [0] (n=ch4os@unaffiliated/ch4os/x-059673)
15:26:11ch4os_hello
15:26:19 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
15:26:43lyon8DerPapst: ah, ok...now i got it
15:29:21DerPapstjust try which patches still work
15:29:44DerPapstsome popular ones are getting resynced regulary.
15:31:08 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin)
15:34:01 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5B48.dip.t-dialin.net)
15:34:38 Quit desowin (Remote closed the connection)
15:34:42 Quit webguest36 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)")
15:36:23 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-24-60-113-125.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
15:38:25 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin)
15:41:36 Join Socks [0] (i=Aturner@72.20.42.1)
15:47:45 Quit Socks ("-)(- If you can't see the fnords, they can't eat you.")
15:55:14 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
16:00
16:01:08 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu)
16:07:45 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
16:08:00 Quit moos ("reboot")
16:11:24 Join waldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-214-141.dsl.scarlet.be)
16:12:13 Join moos [0] (n=moos@m237.net81-66-159.noos.fr)
16:19:50 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.187)
16:24:17 Quit xushi ()
16:31:31 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk)
16:33:19 Join japc [0] (n=japc@bl7-244-54.dsl.telepac.pt)
16:36:41 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be)
16:42:05 Quit Axio_ ()
16:45:48 Quit Redbreva (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
16:48:50 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
16:50:48 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955D8A7.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:57:03 Quit midgey ()
16:59:24 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu)
17:00
17:03:03 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar)
17:05:56***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
17:13:13 Join Llorea1 [0] (n=llorean@ppp-70-255-106-246.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net)
17:13:59 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε")
17:14:51lyon8hmmm
17:15:56lyon8i'm trying to patch the multifont-v01 with the current svn, but it doesn't work
17:17:31lyon8what can i do?
17:17:45 Join Schnueff [0] (n=mah@88.134.59.186)
17:18:28 Quit midgey ()
17:18:43 Join Thundercloud__ [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk)
17:18:59 Join rasher_ [0] (n=rasher@62.79.64.148.adsl.hs.tiscali.dk)
17:20:10kugellyon8: the latest multifont is supposed to be applied with viewports
17:20:10 Quit gnoob (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
17:20:27kugeluse the version before 2008
17:20:47kugelmultifont-20071222.patch or something
17:20:49krazykitor apply viewports too
17:21:02 Join gnoob [0] (n=ToolBoy@c-71-201-79-143.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
17:21:02kugelwell, that works too :)
17:21:08DerPapstwhat would be better anyways :-9
17:21:12DerPapst*:-)
17:21:21DerPapst*that
17:21:52*kugel being close to sync custom list with viewports
17:22:17 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@85-211-77-177.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk)
17:22:27*DerPapst wonders what custom list was again...
17:22:29*DerPapst looks
17:22:32 Quit Llorean (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
17:22:35kugel5899
17:22:40DerPapstthanks :-)
17:24:29lyon8ah, ok...i'll try ;)
17:26:00 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/")
17:28:24 Quit petur ("switching...")
17:28:33 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur)
17:30:22 Quit rasher (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
17:30:23 Nick rasher_ is now known as rasher (n=rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher)
17:32:45lyon8viewports is the first patch that worked! ole ole! :D
17:33:30 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
17:33:52lyon8but now i have a build error
17:34:24 Quit khermans (Remote closed the connection)
17:38:08lyon8is there perhaps a "masterpatch" which includes most of the popular patches?
17:42:18 Join Shaid` [0] (i=shaid@210-84-63-142.dyn.iinet.net.au)
17:42:22 Quit gnoob (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
17:43:02 Join gnoob [0] (n=ToolBoy@c-71-201-79-143.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
17:45:26soapno
17:46:07 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
17:46:09 Join Jonny88 [0] (n=jonny@cpc1-nfds7-0-0-cust201.lei3.cable.ntl.com)
17:46:48Jonny88Can anybody tell me if the sansa e280's on amazon.co.uk will run rockbox? Is there a way to know if they are v2?
17:46:52 Join kratonator [0] (n=kratonat@84-75-176-252.dclient.hispeed.ch)
17:46:57 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi)
17:47:13kratonatorhi all
17:47:13lyon8ok, now it worked...i had an old version
17:47:16lyon8hi ;)
17:47:48kratonatori have a problem with my 3rd gen ipod, it doesn't boot anymore
17:48:10advcomp2019Jonny88, is it new
17:48:34Jonny88any ideas where I'll find a V1 new in the uk/ uk online?
17:49:01kratonatori'm pretty sure that this happens after the new grayscale library was introduced
17:49:14 Join Cptnodegard [0] (n=none@unaffiliated/cptnodegard)
17:49:26soapkratonator, a little more info would be useful. Does it not power on? Does it power on and hang? Does it power on and display an error message? Have you had Rockbox working before? Is this your first time with Rockbox?
17:49:51Cptnodegard[17:46] <kratonator> join #rockbox <- ....?
17:50:05kratonatorno...i have rockbox working a long long time
17:50:08advcomp2019Jonny88, most of the new e200 are v2s but do not know till you get it
17:50:52kratonatori get a message "unexpected" message
17:50:59 Part Cptnodegard
17:51:10soapkratonator, ok, sounds like this: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14228.msg106703#msg106703 problem.
17:51:13Jonny88Ok, is there any rockbox compatable mp3 player thats easy to find in shops? I quite liked the cowons but I can't find any for sale anymore
17:51:34pixelmakratonator: no it doesn't have to do with the new greyscale lib just coincidence. Somehow there are broken builds on 1st - 3rd gen Ipods
17:51:44kratonator"undefined instruction at 000452E0"
17:51:59soapcoincidence abounds! I had just linked kratonator to your excellent answer, pixelma!
17:52:01 Quit gnoob (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
17:52:21kratonatori tried to track it down...but i didn't get very far
17:52:55kratonatoroh yeah, and i tried to compile it myself, didn't work either
17:53:02 Join gnoob [0] (n=ToolBoy@c-71-201-79-143.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
17:55:35pixelmakratonator: on Friday 2 people reported that the 2nd January daily build works on their 3rd gen Ipods (r15984)
17:55:56advcomp2019Jonny88, most of the rockbox compatible mp3 player now are not made any more.. you might have a hard time tho
17:56:18kratonatorpixelma, thanks for the info, i'll fetch that build
17:56:34Jonny88Is the V2 going to be supported any time soon?
17:57:09 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin)
17:57:43 Quit gnoob (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
17:57:45krazykitJonny88, there is no timeline. it's not certain that it WILL be supported
17:58:08pixelmakratonator: the error seems to be hard to track down, for now you can just try to update from time to time and see if the build works or not, keeping the old one to be able to return back to the last workin one
17:58:16Jonny88krazykit: is it in development?
17:58:36 Join gnoob [0] (n=ToolBoy@c-71-201-79-143.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
17:58:53kratonatorpixelma, thank you, i've just read your post soap linked to
17:58:54krazykitJonny88, the initial work of getting modified code to run hasn't happened yet. there's a thread in the New Ports forum about it
17:59:15pixelmakratonator: you can also read a bit about it here http://www.rockbox.org/irc/reader.pl?date=20080104#20:34:17 :)
18:00
18:00:50 Quit Shaid (Success)
18:00:50 Nick Shaid` is now known as Shaid (i=shaid@210-84-63-142.dyn.iinet.net.au)
18:02:13kratonatorpixelma, yes it does work. thanks for helping :)
18:02:15 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu)
18:02:36pixelmayou're welcome :)
18:03:27kratonatordo you know if charging works? i connect from time to time my charger but i don't know if it charges or not
18:03:49kratonatoror does the battery work as a buffer when "charging"?
18:04:43 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
18:05:04pixelmasorry, no idea. Don't have an Ipod...
18:05:37DerPapstnormally if you connect it to a charger it should start charging.
18:06:20kratonatoryeah...that's what i thought too...
18:06:35DerPapstbut i don't know if the battery icon starts to behave "different".
18:09:19 Part Jonny88 ("Kopete 0.12.6 : http://kopete.kde.org")
18:15:01 Quit midgey ()
18:23:16 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A587A.dip.t-dialin.net)
18:26:48lyon8ok, i attached viewports_v8, but multifonts still doesn't work
18:27:22lyon8there are lots of hunk-errors
18:28:22lyon8ah, ok...now it worked
18:29:00lyon8i try compiling
18:32:23 Join martin91 [0] (n=martin91@ppp-62-216-199-201.dynamic.mnet-online.de)
18:35:28 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
18:35:52 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5B48.dip.t-dialin.net)
18:39:54 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear)
18:44:55 Join Mathiasdm2 [0] (n=Mathias@vpnd009.ugent.be)
18:45:43 Join Mathias [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be)
18:52:27 Join Sammienator [0] (n=stbouwer@a200098.upc-a.chello.nl)
18:53:39 Quit desowin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
18:57:29 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin)
18:59:51 Quit Mathias ("Yuuw!")
19:00
19:01:20 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu)
19:02:35 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
19:04:09 Quit Mathiasdm2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
19:05:18 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst)
19:05:59***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
19:07:33 Quit Llorea1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
19:08:12 Join BigMac [0] (n=me@c-67-189-253-195.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
19:10:05 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@adsl-70-136-54-96.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net)
19:13:27 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk)
19:15:22 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP)
19:18:19 Quit davidfg4 ("bye")
19:21:25 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.)
19:21:28 Join DerDom1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-184-093.pools.arcor-ip.net)
19:21:38 Nick DerDom1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-184-093.pools.arcor-ip.net)
19:24:28 Quit bertrik ("bye")
19:27:57 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A9682C.dip.t-dialin.net)
19:30:38 Quit midgey ()
19:32:49 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu)
19:33:17 Quit Sammienator ()
19:41:48 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.)
19:41:51 Join DerDom1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-205-121.pools.arcor-ip.net)
19:42:01 Nick DerDom1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-205-121.pools.arcor-ip.net)
19:46:17 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
19:46:44 Join peppo [0] (n=slumpmas@c-4471e155.41-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)
19:51:17 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
19:54:41 Join Apophisy [0] (n=IceChat7@217-211-118-63-no27.tbcn.telia.com)
19:56:00ApophisyHello, someone knows if there will be a port for creative zen of rockbox?
19:57:15krazykitonly if someone with the device does the port
19:57:26Apophisycrap
19:58:00krazykiti think some headway has been made in the encryption, but i don't think they've run any custom code yet. check the New Ports forum
19:58:13Apophisyokey
19:58:34 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul)
19:59:25 Part peppo ("part")
20:00
20:00:29 Join axionix_ [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com)
20:05:50 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net)
20:05:59 Quit Schnueff ("maybe bbl")
20:09:07 Quit desowin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
20:10:12DaCapnMy little sister had a bunch of corrupted files on her hard drive and couldn't boot so I took her hard drive home to try and recover files. She's got like 300 songs she bought on iTunes and I'd like to remove the DRM for her. Is this acceptable to ask about in here?
20:10:29krazykitno, it is not
20:10:43 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin)
20:10:57DaCapnshame
20:11:36krazykitand the issue isn't even a rockbox issue in the first place, so it's offtopic regardless
20:12:28 Quit stewball`ghost (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
20:12:49DaCapnright
20:12:50preglowwef
20:13:04 Quit axionix (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
20:13:05ApophisyDaCapn... Ever heard of google?
20:13:13 Quit Apophisy ("The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese")
20:13:39DaCapnhaha
20:22:33 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
20:22:34 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net)
20:25:04 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net)
20:26:03 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye")
20:26:37 Join GodEater [50] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater)
20:28:40 Quit faemir (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
20:30:16 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A587A.dip.t-dialin.net)
20:31:00 Join bagawk [0] (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk)
20:34:41 Join tge101 [0] (n=48e3b34f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0ecc7c3412669146)
20:35:59tge101can someone help me? i have an Ipod Color with rockbox and i want to install the albumart patch for the theme i have, i downloaded .patch file but no clue on what to do with it
20:36:24krazykitalbum art is in SVN now. all you need is a recent build
20:36:41 Part pixelma
20:37:30 Quit gnoob (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
20:37:33tge101i have a recent build installed, but i'm not getting any album art to show, plus the theme i downloaded said it required the patch (i dont know if what you just said nullifies the requirement)
20:37:52stripwaxtge101 - get (or create) a theme that doesn't require a patched build
20:38:26tge101are there theme creators? im not to hot on programming
20:38:48 Join gnoob [0] (n=ToolBoy@c-71-201-79-143.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
20:38:59stripwaxtge101 - if that theme requires 'only' the albumart patch it should work on the recent official builds now. if it requires other patches too, in order to work, it probably won't work on the official builds (and you probably won't get support in this official channel)
20:39:05tge101do you know any themes for the Ipod Color that i dont have to patch?
20:39:08stripwaxtge101 - not really.
20:39:12stripwaxto the first question
20:39:29stripwaxand to the second question, there may be several on rockbox-themes.org
20:39:30 Join krazykit_ [0] (n=krazykit@adsl-76-252-58-252.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net)
20:39:45 Quit krazykit (Nick collision from services.)
20:39:53tge101thats where i got it, i think, it was one of the links on the rockbox site
20:40:05 Nick krazykit_ is now known as krazykit (n=krazykit@adsl-76-252-58-252.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net)
20:40:18stripwaxdoes the theme you downloaded require anything more than just albumart?
20:41:01tge101if the arts embedded in the mp3s with it read it from them? and if not what kind of file (.jpg, .bmp etc.) does it read?
20:41:13krazykittge101, please read the AlbumArt wiki page
20:41:21tge101umm, yea but i think they were just fonts
20:41:22 Quit gnoob (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
20:41:40stripwaxif you're not sure, we can't help you ..
20:41:58stripwaxthere are several themes that work on official builds for ipod color - look here : http://www.rockbox-themes.org/index.php?res=220x176x16
20:42:01tge101im tryin to find it as we speak so give me a second
20:42:15stripwaxXenon looks like it supports album art without requiring any unofficial patches
20:42:34 Join ashughes [0] (n=ashughes@dsl-67-212-26-124.acanac.net)
20:42:49stripwax[the ones that say the Min Version is 'any recent daily build' ought to work]
20:43:12ashugheshey guys I am having a DB glitch with rockbox on my IPod Video 80GB
20:43:16ashughescan someone help?
20:43:25stripwaxwhat kind of a "glitch"?
20:43:40ashugheswell I recently converted all my songs from MP3 to Ogg
20:43:49ashughesso I deleted the mp3s and copied over the ogg
20:43:57ashughesbut the DB still sees the mp3 files
20:43:58 Join gnoob [0] (n=ToolBoy@c-71-201-79-143.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
20:44:01stripwaxrebuild it
20:44:04ashughesso my library is twice the size
20:44:07tge101well, ill figure it out i guess, one more question has there been any work on battery life?
20:44:10ashugheshow do I rebuild it?
20:44:45 Quit amiconn (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D")
20:45:03stripwaxashughes - http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-450004.2.2
20:45:20tge101it never says fully charged, and it drains quick
20:45:41stripwaxashughes - Update Now ought to do what you want
20:45:50stripwaxtge101- how quick
20:46:04ashughesok...but shouldnt it be doing this automatically with AUTOUpdate and DirCache enabled?
20:46:44 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@85-211-77-177.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk)
20:46:45tge101never timed it, but quick enough to get annoying
20:47:26stripwaxashughes - mm, it ought to. is it reproducible i.e. if you power down, connect it to your pc, delete a file, disconnect and power back up, is that file still in the DB?
20:47:30tge101couple hours, maybe 4 tops?
20:47:43ashughesstripwax: yes
20:47:52stripwaxtge101 - battery life should be longer than 4 hours, I think.. how are you charging it (using original firmware or charging while rockbox is running)?
20:48:21 Quit gnoob (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
20:48:29ashughesstrange thing is, I can still play the file
20:48:46ashughesbut the file does not appear when I connect it to my PC
20:48:52stripwaxashughes - um, then it hasn't been deleted :-) Are you *sure* you don't have a Recycle Bin on your mp3 player ? :-)
20:49:06 Quit tedrock (Client Quit)
20:49:08ashughesnope, no files in recycle bin
20:49:16 Join gnoob [0] (n=ToolBoy@c-71-201-79-143.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
20:49:17tge101i just usb it to my computer, the "do not disconnect" shows while it charges
20:49:17 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust498.brig.cable.ntl.com)
20:49:19ashughesis there a way I can just format my ipod drive?
20:49:34stripwaxFrom the database in rockbox, you should be able to find the Path to that file. If it's in the database, *and* rockbox can play it, it *hasn't* been deleted
20:49:41stripwaxyou can format if you want, although, you don't need to
20:50:01ashughesstripwax: it would be easier for me to just format and copy the ogg files back over
20:50:02 Join lyon8_ [0] (n=lyon8@p57AEAE99.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
20:50:18stripwaxashughes - it would probably be easier to find these old mp3s and delete them properly :)
20:50:20tge101im not sure if that screen is rockbox or still original firmware
20:50:25stripwaxformatting is not straightforward
20:50:44ashughesI am not really interested in "solving" the problem...just want to have only ogg files on here
20:50:52lyon8_what plugins do i need for correctly displaying a 24bit-WPS?
20:50:54ashughesstripwax: delete properly?
20:51:05 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@69.92.201.36)
20:51:12ashughesstripwax: I selected the files while connected to my PC, deleted, then emptied recycle bin
20:51:26ashughesthen I made sure I ejected the drive properly
20:51:28stripwaxtge101 - hm, that's still original firmware, but I don't know if that screen gives you an indication of how fully charged the battery is. if you *reboot* into Apple firmware (i.e. turn on then switch hold switch to "hold"), and charge fully until it tells you it is Charged, that should give you a better battery life in rockbox
20:51:36ashughesso I am not sure how more "proper" you can get
20:51:53stripwaxashughes - I'll say it again, if rockbox can play those mp3s, then they have not been deleted.. if they have been deleted, then they wouldn't be playable (because they wouldn't be there). unless I'm missing something?
20:52:27ashughesstripwax: I am thinking that somehow the tags are pointing to the same ogg file
20:52:28stripwaxMost likely, you have them tucked away inside a hidden folder or subfolder that has been forgotten about. From the rockbox database, you can find where these files have been lurking, and just delete them
20:52:31ashughesas I can only see by tag
20:52:51ashughesso it is just duped tag references
20:53:28ashughesstripwax: if the update now doesnt work, is there a way to format with rockbox?
20:53:42stripwaxHm, so all the tags are duplicated, and they all point to ogg files?
20:54:03tge101how do you reboot to apple firmware again? i know the hard reboot (menu and select) but its been a while since ive gone to the apple side of things
20:54:23stripwaxashughes - if there's no chance that you have duplicated ogg files on there then just try update now, and if that doesn't work, try initialize now to rebuild the db.
20:54:39stripwaxtge101 - menu+select and then immediately flip the hold switch to 'hold'
20:54:42ashughesstripwax: ok thanks
20:54:51ashughesstripwax: and is there a way to format with Rockbox?
20:54:57stripwaxashughes - there's no way to format an ipod from directly within rockbox, no.
20:55:06ashughesstripwax: ok thank you
20:55:12 Quit ashughes ("Ex-Chat")
20:55:26Robin0800ashughes,you can use a program called fat32format if your using windows
20:55:43BigBambior swissknife
20:55:59stripwaxashughes - unless your music is inside your ".rockbox" folder (which it shouldn't be), you can try just deleting all folders (except .rockbox) from the root.
20:56:27 Quit tge101 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)")
20:57:14 Quit DaCapn (Success)
20:59:32 Quit gnoob (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
21:00
21:00:22 Join gnoob [0] (n=ToolBoy@71.201.79.143)
21:01:52lyon8_hmm...seems that the WPS-Syntax has changed
21:02:47lyon8_where can i find themes which work correctly with the current svn version?
21:03:20GodEaterlyon8_: given how often svn changes, it's impossible for wps authors to mark them with a "works with current version"
21:03:35GodEaterso the only way to tell is to try them out and see
21:04:23rasherI think FS #8412 (whoever reported it) was caused by using the tarball, which didn't include all rbspeex files.
21:04:31rasherFixed earlier today.
21:05:22lyon8_GodEater: ok, better asked: where can i find the most recent wps?
21:05:45BigBambiOf which WPS?
21:05:45GodEaterlyon8_: we don't keep them sorted by date
21:05:53GodEaterso that's not easy to answer
21:06:02***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
21:06:06 Quit lyon8 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
21:06:09lyon8_of these nice color WPS with 24bit
21:06:43lyon8_hmm...you know: the problem is just that i have tryed several themes
21:06:54GodEatersuch as ?
21:07:08LloreanYour player doesn't have a 24-bit screen, so I don't know what you mean by "WPS with 24bit"
21:07:13lyon8_but there's always just the default-wps loaded
21:07:14GodEaterI don't believe you've even said for which target you looking ?
21:07:31lyon8_http://wps.abondar.de/?name=JP&ca=2&bd=2&sort=1&pp=10 <−− these ones
21:07:40lyon8_oh, sorry: it's an iriver h320
21:08:11lyon8_yeah...i call it 24bit cause the image files are in 24bit afaik
21:08:12GodEaterlyon8_: try out cabbie 2.0 for example - that's been worked on extremely recently
21:08:43GodEaterI don't recall any other recently advertised h3x0 WPSs
21:09:14lyon8_ok, thanks...where do i find this theme?
21:10:11GodEaterin the wps gallery on www.rockbox.org
21:10:15GodEaterwhere all the other themes are
21:10:58lyon8_ok, thanks so far
21:11:33stripwaxand www.rockbox-themes.org
21:11:35GodEaterwhere have you been getting all these other themes you've already tried ?
21:11:56lyon8_since i'm building from source, it may also be possible that i just don't have the necessary plugins, isn't it?
21:12:10 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
21:12:19stripwaxlyon8_ - no, you should have all the source
21:12:20GodEaterlyon8_: no it's not possible
21:12:28GodEaterstripwax: rbt.org doesn't have cabbie 2.0
21:12:43stripwaxhm
21:12:48 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com)
21:13:23lyon8_ok, that helps a lot ;)
21:15:44 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnc015.ugent.be)
21:16:04lyon8_i just tryed ajant blue
21:16:09lyon8_same problem
21:16:28lyon8_i make a photo
21:17:30 Join Axio [0] (n=Axio@alf94-1-81-57-140-233.fbx.proxad.net)
21:26:04 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3023.gwdg.de)
21:28:31lyon8_ok, i got the photo
21:29:06GodEaterlyon8_: why didn't you start with the theme I suggested ?
21:29:25lyon8_i didn't see it on the site
21:29:35lyon8_but I'm actually looking right now
21:29:49GodEaterit's at the bottom of the page
21:29:52lyon8_http://xs223.xs.to/xs223/08010/iriver_wps.jpg
21:30:32GodEaterI already know what the default WPS looks like =/
21:31:03lyon8_ok...
21:31:38GodEaterhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIriverH300
21:32:44 Quit Axio ()
21:34:17PaulJamHI, i think FS #8181 can be closed now.
21:34:52lyon8_GodEater: ok, cabbie works great ;)
21:34:56lyon8_thanks a lot
21:35:00GodEaterno problem
21:35:08GodEaterif you feel like fixing older broken ones
21:35:09lyon8_so the problem is syntax changes, right?
21:35:13GodEaterI'm sure people would be grateful
21:35:21GodEateryes - there was a big change around August
21:35:38GodEaterand no-one's really fixed up the h300 themes since
21:35:56lyon8_ok...good to know; at first I want be able to listen to my music again...but then i could try to fix some ;)
21:36:19lyon8_GodEater: most people still use the older builds
21:36:41GodEaterwho is "most people" ?
21:37:31lyon8_most people who make fancy WPSes for their eyecandy-player ;)
21:37:52GodEaterno - I would say in that case "most people" don't use the h300
21:38:36lyon8_this as well :D
21:38:51lyon8_GodEater: what do you use then?
21:40:20 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
21:40:38soapGodEater's DAP simply displays the .wps as plain text and he parses the code in his mind's eye
21:40:39GodEateripod video, gigabeat f, and h1x0
21:40:49lyon8_wohoo
21:40:58soapit is how he does 16 bit colour on his H100
21:41:09lyon8_hehe
21:41:17lyon8_sounds interesting
21:41:58lyon8_i love my iriver's sound...i don't like ipods somehow
21:42:13lyon8_but that's a question of taste i guess
21:42:21*GodEater can't really tell the difference between one player running rockbox and another
21:42:31 Join TheDarkOne [0] (n=ABC@bas11-toronto12-1088916541.dsl.bell.ca)
21:43:10PaulJamis there a restriction how many viewports can be used in a single WPSß
21:43:33TheDarkOnewhen i connect the USB to an ipod with rockbox it's not rebooting into disk mode automatically, is there any way to do it manually?
21:44:39GodEaterTheDarkOne: which ipod ?
21:45:00lyon8_GodEater: i hear the sound difference..
21:45:06TheDarkOnevideo 80gb
21:45:23GodEaterTheDarkOne: shut down rockbox, then power it back on, and instantly hold select+play
21:45:26GodEaterthat will load disk mode
21:46:17TheDarkOnethanks :)
21:47:06TheDarkOnealso, all my sister's files (this is for her ipod) are in .m4a, and when i first copied them they played fine, but after retagging them they aren't playing at all, any idea what i should do?
21:47:31TheDarkOne(used easytag for retagging)
21:48:24GodEaterI'm not really an expert on the .m4a stuff - but as I recall rockbox requires they be in "streamable" format - which means all the metadata has to be at the start of the file. That would suggest that whatever tagging program you used moved that data to the end, and therefore has broken them as far as Rockbox is concenred.
21:48:47TheDarkOnei see
21:49:05TheDarkOneknow of any fast way to conver 1300 files from m4a to mp3?
21:49:08TheDarkOneconvert*
21:49:36krazykitTheDarkOne, only if you want to significantly lower sound quality
21:50:47kugelTheDarkOne: m4a is fine, the tags seem to be the issue
21:51:10kugelTheDarkOne: I tagged my m4a files with mp3tag and they work properly
21:52:31 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
21:52:45 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5B48.dip.t-dialin.net)
21:56:10TheDarkOneso strip and retag should fix it then, no?
21:57:52GodEaterit's got to be worth a try
22:00
22:00:45TheDarkOnewell about to find out...
22:01:56 Quit faemir (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
22:08:26 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@85-211-77-177.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk)
22:09:22 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk)
22:09:31 Join countrymonkey [0] (n=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7bfe6c907b3dc3fa)
22:11:11countrymonkeyHow come the fm radio in the sim doesn't work? I tried to use it to test out the radio in rb.
22:13:16GodEaterdoes your PC include an fm radio receiver ?
22:13:23LearIt works, as well as can be expected without an actual radio receiver...
22:15:05 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!")
22:15:32countrymonkeyI am just running a laptop, so the answer is no.
22:15:48GodEaterthen exactly how would you expect it to work ?
22:16:15countrymonkeyMaybe I'll get an fmradio dap. Which one is the best one, in you all's opinion?
22:17:11GodEaterI only own one with an fm radio, so I've no basis for comparison with anything else
22:17:25soapthe only time I use FM radio is when I am in a gym which broadcasts audio from the televisions (which are muted)
22:17:28countrymonkeyI thought having headphones connected was good enough.
22:17:46countrymonkeyJust like a real dap would work. But I don't know much about this stuff.
22:17:58soapa real DAP has an FM radio inside.
22:18:11countrymonkeyok.
22:18:22 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend")
22:18:28 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 3.0b3pre/2008010508]")
22:19:46countrymonkeyIs it as clear, say, as a cheap $10 portable radio?
22:19:52 Quit Thundercloud__ (Success)
22:19:59GodEatermine is
22:20:14countrymonkeyWhat target do you use?
22:21:03GodEateriRiver H140
22:21:17GodEaternot that I use the radio much
22:21:52countrymonkeyCool. If I need an fm radio dap I will get an h120 then. Thx.
22:22:02 Join Laserbeak43 [0] (n=401a6a09@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6ec57a63c3a35304)
22:22:10Laserbeak43hi
22:22:14countrymonkeyI don't need 40gb of storage.
22:22:30Laserbeak43can someone please tell me i'm new to the rockbox site.
22:22:42Laserbeak43can i use rockbox on my sansa express?
22:22:46countrymonkeyHey, lazerbeak. What's up?
22:22:47soapLaserbeak43, you are new to the rockbox site.
22:22:55soapoh - that's not what you were asking. ;)
22:23:19Laserbeak43hehe
22:23:20soapNo, the only models supported, Laserbeak43, are those explicitly listed on the front page of www.rockbox.org
22:23:28Laserbeak43oh
22:23:31Laserbeak43ok
22:23:37Laserbeak43darn :/
22:23:55Laserbeak43how hard would it be to add support for the express?
22:24:00Laserbeak43theoreticaly?
22:24:09countrymonkeyvery hard.
22:24:10 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-71-154-232-226.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net)
22:24:14Laserbeak43i could try
22:24:31countrymonkeyif you are willing to open it up.
22:24:35Bagdera new port isn't easy nor quick
22:24:37Laserbeak43a lot of reverse engineering hah?
22:24:42Bagdera lot
22:24:48JdGordonthe m5 was easy and quick....
22:24:48soapLaserbeak43, read http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort - it will give you a proper introduction into the question you are asking.
22:25:03countrymonkeyWhy was the m5 easy and quick?
22:25:04Laserbeak43thanks
22:25:17Laserbeak43yeah
22:25:18Laserbeak43:)
22:25:19Bagderbecause m5 is very very similar to existing targets
22:25:24soapbecause the M5 had low self esteem?
22:25:24Laserbeak43what he said :)
22:25:37Laserbeak43lol
22:25:48Laserbeak43well the express "looks" just like a c200
22:25:56Bagdernot inside
22:26:05countrymonkeyOk, bagder.
22:26:05Bagderits completely totally very different
22:27:00BagderSigmatel STMP36OO series...
22:27:04countrymonkeyMBagder, you have opened one up?
22:27:16Bagderhttp://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2007-09/0002.shtml
22:28:08Bagderno, I don't own any such thing
22:28:24countrymonkeyHold on a sec, gotta make a quick phone call.
22:29:23countrymonkeyI'm back.
22:29:28 Quit gnoob ("Leaving")
22:31:52countrymonkeyI'm curious, who originally came up with this idea which later became the great, wonderful, unable-to-say-it-in-words-it's-so-good rockbox?
22:32:15GodEaterZagor, Bagder and LinusN are the original threesome I believe :)
22:32:32Bagderpretty much yeah
22:33:00countrymonkeyOh. What was the inspiration?
22:33:06GodEaterit's certainly Zagor's fault it's called Rockbox
22:33:23countrymonkeyWhy? Rockbox is a good name.
22:33:26stripwaxsucky firmware was the inspiration :)
22:33:27Bagdercountrymonkey: the inspiration was Zagor's and LinusN's bad experiences with the OF of the Archos Player
22:33:33GodEaterI didn't say it was a bad name :)
22:33:54 Quit ch4os_ (Remote closed the connection)
22:34:27countrymonkeyWhy is it his fault it's called rockbox? I'm glad I didn't have to choose a name...
22:34:58GodEaterthere was a vote, the term "Aurora" won, and he chose to ignore the vote, and went with the second place choice of "Rockbox"
22:35:06Bagderhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GeneralFAQ#Where_exactly_did_the_name_Rockb
22:35:12 Join Kupop [0] (n=huhu@adsl-69-111-244-66.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net)
22:35:31GodEaterOrpheus even
22:35:40GodEaterwhere the hell did I just pull Aurora from ?
22:35:45*GodEater thinks he must need to go to bed
22:36:50 Join Axio_ [0] (n=Axio@alf94-1-81-57-140-233.fbx.proxad.net)
22:37:00 Quit soap ()
22:37:06 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk)
22:37:07Laserbeak43damn, i really wanna play NES tunes on my player(in NES format)
22:37:15 Quit billenium ("Leaving")
22:37:17Laserbeak43i mailed that guy who wrote that email
22:37:19GodEaterbuy a different player then :)
22:37:42*Laserbeak43 has limited funds atm
22:37:49Laserbeak43i might go for a c200 though
22:37:53countrymonkeye200s are only $100 but then you run the risk of getting a v2 which is a no-no.
22:38:07Bagderthe c200 are v2s too now
22:38:30Laserbeak43oh
22:38:33Laserbeak43and oyu can't downgrade?
22:38:38Bagdercorrect
22:38:49Laserbeak43crap
22:38:53Bagderthere are still v1s out there
22:38:56Laserbeak43so what are my options?
22:39:17Bagderthere is no player still being manufactured that can run Rockbox
22:39:17countrymonkeye200rs I don't think are v2s yet.
22:39:48 Quit faemir (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
22:40:01countrymonkeyBuy it online.
22:40:13Laserbeak43buy what online an e200?
22:40:22countrymonkeya player.
22:40:25 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
22:40:45countrymonkeyI mean a jukebox.
22:40:46Laserbeak43yeah i saw some nice deals on amazon
22:40:58Laserbeak43but i'll have to get info from the seller
22:41:01Laserbeak43a jukebox?
22:41:13countrymonkeyYes.
22:41:46countrymonkeyCheck the front page for supported builds. And I tried to buy on amazon and no rockbox jukeboxes exist. Go to ebay.
22:42:14nanokis there a simple way to tell a v2 sansa from a functional one (pun intended)
22:42:31 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma)
22:42:40krazykitnanok, the firmware version is the only way to really be sure, short of opening it up
22:43:19nanokkrazykit: thanks, good to know. is there info on the rockbox page about that, on that "what to buy" page?
22:43:30*nanok is checking
22:43:43krazykitdon't think so. the v2 has a firmware version 03.xx.xx
22:44:15nanokmaybe we should add that info for everyone interested to see, i think it is very important
22:44:27Bagderbut we also need fresh blood on the v2 porting front... :-)
22:44:37countrymonkeyI thought v2s had a small "v2" next to the model number on the back.
22:44:46nanoki, for one, would have no use for a sansa if not running rockbox. it would be a paperwieght for me
22:44:49Bagdercountrymonkey: it does, but it seems some v1s have v2-backs
22:45:06Bagderjust to confuse us all
22:46:37DerPapstheh
22:46:59 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn)
22:47:31 Quit TheDarkOne ()
22:48:13nanokthe info _is_ here
22:48:15nanokhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide
22:48:49nanoki think though a star near the e200 and c200 in the chart should be added, to point to that comment on the page
22:49:00nanokjust a thought
22:50:22 Quit midgey ()
22:51:16 Quit Axio_ (Remote closed the connection)
22:51:58 Join safetydan [0] (n=safetyda@rockbox/developer/safetydan)
22:52:17 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
22:54:43Laserbeak43goodbye
22:54:49 Quit Laserbeak43 ("CGI:IRC")
22:55:33 Join linuxstb [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/linuxstb)
22:55:54 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e179200166.adsl.alicedsl.de)
22:56:45countrymonkeyDomonoky, what is stopping v1.0.4 of rbutil except for 8407?
22:58:01 Quit petur ("*plop*")
22:58:39Domonokycountrymonkey: i just returned from holydays.. so whats stopping it, is the time.. :-)
22:58:56Domonokyand turkish translation, nice... that should be commited..
22:59:31 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=chatzill@ool-4351bd58.dyn.optonline.net)
23:00
23:00:03GodEaterlinuxstb: are you intending on leaving the font parameter as a numeral, even when multifont goes in ?
23:00:20linuxstbI haven't really thought about it - any better ideas?
23:00:32GodEaternot really
23:00:39GodEaterthe only other option is the name of the font file I guess
23:00:43LloreanYeah
23:00:47GodEaterbut that's tricky for sysfont
23:00:51GodEatersince there isn't one
23:00:54LloreanI think 0 for system font, 1 for user font, and a name for anything else?
23:00:55LambdaCalculus37Evening, guys.
23:01:19linuxstbI'm sort of assuming that there will be a list of fonts the user can specify should be loaded, and then the user somehow specifies uses for each font.
23:01:22Llorean1 could really try to mean "font independent" as in "we don't care what you've chosen as your userfont"
23:01:33GodEaterlinuxstb: that's a nice idea actually
23:01:56Lloreanlinuxstb: Like the image preload tags?
23:02:00LambdaCalculus37I agree.
23:02:03 Nick parafin is now known as parafin|away (i=parafin@paraf.in)
23:02:17linuxstbLlorean: I guess so, but throughout Rockbox, not just the WPS.
23:02:22GodEaterit would certainly make the actual viewport lines a bit nicer to read
23:03:11LloreanSo, more like the .icons file? A .fonts file can be loaded, and it contains a numbered list of fonts for that theme?
23:03:18DerPapstdoesn't the multifont patch define fonts in the theme config?
23:03:41LambdaCalculus37Llorean: Hey, that's a pretty good idea!
23:03:41LloreanYeah, it has like font1= font2= font3= lines in the .cfg, I think. Though the names may be slightly different
23:03:55 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-159-75.home1.cgocable.net)
23:04:15DerPapstcoudln't the index then be used?
23:04:29DerPapst1 for font1 and so on.
23:04:35JdGordonlinuxstb: hey, any idea how long till you commit vp?
23:04:41 Quit davina (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
23:04:58*amiconn doesn't like the idea of having several user fonts
23:05:09amiconnThe only exception being the targets with an lcd remote
23:05:24BigBambiIt would make the WPS much more pretty
23:05:37JdGordonpretty != functional
23:05:39BigBambisuch as having next info smaller than current etx
23:05:47*DerPapst agrees with BigBambi
23:05:48BigBambiIn my mind that is more functional
23:05:55LloreanJdGordon: It could help you fit more info while preserving the readability if "Important" info.
23:05:55*LambdaCalculus37 agress with BigBambi, too
23:05:57amiconnIt bloats the code and eats ram.
23:06:03 Join uwe__ [0] (n=uwe@dslb-084-056-046-011.pools.arcor-ip.net)
23:06:03 Quit countrymonkey ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)")
23:06:04***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
23:06:09JdGordonif the patch lets the user choose how much RAM to waste then its not really that bad
23:06:15BigBambiHowever, all within aceptable programming
23:06:18amiconnAnd there are many things to fix even for the single user font we currently have
23:06:21pixelmatoo many different fonts don't look pretty anymore
23:06:23LloreanJdGordon: User configurable glyphcache?
23:06:26JdGordonyeah
23:06:36LambdaCalculus37pixelma: Agreed.
23:06:40amiconnLike recording screen, statusbar, button bar, radio screen...
23:06:46DerPapston most flash targets not such a big issue... and on targets with lots of ram.
23:06:51Lloreanpixelma: I personally think no more than two are needed for most WPSes anyway.
23:06:53LambdaCalculus37Cabbie's a nice theme, but I'm not very fond of the Helv10 font on the WPS.
23:07:00BigBambiNormally I am all for keeping it simple, but I would very much like big current track and smaller next info for instane
23:07:08*amiconn doesn't like the cabbie theme at all
23:07:21 Join qweru [0] (n=kvirc@bb-87-80-66-156.ukonline.co.uk)
23:07:23DerPapstpixelma: i'd be happy with 3 different
23:07:33 Join soap [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap)
23:07:34amiconnThe font really looks like it would disappear any time soon, and it has too little info and too much space-wasting nonsense
23:07:57LambdaCalculus37amiconn: Especially on my iPod video... 320x240 makes the font too tiny.
23:08:03BigBambiNo-one is going to like all aspects of a wps
23:08:04LambdaCalculus37And changing it messes up the theme.
23:08:18BigBambiFor instance I think the font is too small on the gigabeat cabbie v2
23:08:33BigBambiBut it is surely better than the current default
23:08:41LambdaCalculus37Yes, that's true.
23:08:45pixelmaLambdaCalculus37: it's not the 320x240 that make it look tiny but the size of the pixel... ;)
23:08:49amiconnMost of all, the font is too thin. I'd really much prefer the nimbus variants
23:09:06BigBambiFor me, I just adapted it to a better (IMO) font
23:09:12LambdaCalculus37amiconn: Wasn't someone working on DejaVuSans for Rockbox?
23:09:25BigBambiLambdaCalculus37: That rings a bell from the forum
23:09:47LambdaCalculus37BigBambi: Oh yeah! Who was the guy working on that, anywho?
23:10:06BigBambiLambdaCalculus37: Can't remember, but it was in the new default theme thread
23:10:25soapBuschel_, do you have a runtime yet for 24Mhz, no PLL?
23:10:29pixelmaLambdaCalculus37: for example it's a big difference to watch the same font on the M5 display or the H100 display even though both lcds are 160x128...
23:11:32BigBambiThis is why I will always insist that you can only really have an opinion on font size if you have looked at the target
23:11:33LambdaCalculus37pixelma: I have that with my girlfriend's H320 and my 4G iPod color; both LCDs are 220x176.
23:11:37BigBambinot the sim
23:11:44 Part lassesdatamaskin ("Leaving.")
23:11:53Buschel_soap: not yet, is running since 3h now. at least for mpc-playback there will be minimal gain in runtime −− I gues mostly from using 24MHz instead of 30MHz
23:11:59BigBambiexcept if you are GodEater, then you are just wrong :)
23:12:00amiconnWhat info I am missing (applies to most other wps'es I saw so far): * precise volume display, going numeric while adjusting. * bitrate * audio format * peakmeters * current time
23:12:05Buschel_*guess
23:12:24BigBambiamiconn: Why is for instance audio format important? Surely you know?
23:12:34Lloreanamiconn: I don't think the audio format is really relevant to "new" users. And peakmeters can still cause skipping, until that's fixed I don't think it should be included.
23:12:49LloreanIn fact I think performance has degrade somewhere, because more people are reporting skippy audio in general
23:12:56 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!")
23:13:00amiconnWhat's just jabber that could be left out: * the 'now playing' bar * the rockbox logo * album art (ok, I know this is conditional...)
23:13:04*DerPapst doesn't like peakmeters ;-)
23:13:08*soap suspects audio format is "important" in that you can say 'Hey, dude, I got OGG on my iPod!'
23:13:15LambdaCalculus37Llorean: Only targets that don't skip with peakmeters are the Archos IIRC.
23:13:15BigBambisoap: :)
23:13:17pixelmaLlorean: most of those reports are "skipping during buffering"...
23:13:29JdGordonthe "now playing" bar is pretty pointless on the small screens though
23:13:31BigBambiLambdaCalculus37: The coldifre don't skip with peakmeters
23:13:41amiconnLambdaCalculus37: I have peakmeters enabled on all my targets, and got no skipping so far
23:13:46BigBambiLlorean: I thought that was a buffering issue?
23:13:50LambdaCalculus37BigBambi: I don't have a Coldfire target. :)
23:13:54BigBambipixelma: You win
23:13:58LloreanLambdaCalculus37: Oh, my gigabeat and H120 don't skip at all, and I think my Nano only skips under certain conditions with 'em
23:14:01linuxstbJdGordon: There's still some more work to do it on - I'm hoping I can reduce the binsize a little more.
23:14:08BigBambiLambdaCalculus37: Well, you should then if you want peakmeters
23:14:10Lloreanpixelma: Yeah, but peakmeters would surely agitate it further.
23:14:14amiconn(on 1st/2nd Gen ipod only after I did the lcd optimisation, before they were really too slow)
23:14:16LambdaCalculus37Llorean: My iPod video skipped with peakmeters.
23:14:39LloreanLambdaCalculus37: The iPod Video is the single worst performing target for video, which is what peakmeters are relevant to I believe
23:14:48stripwaxfwiw mine skips without peakmeters
23:14:52LambdaCalculus37Llorean: Damn straight. :)
23:15:04JdGordonlinuxstb: oh, what is the rough bin delta?
23:15:27amiconnLlorean: Peakmeters don't need much performance on Video after my lcd optimisations. They just cover a small fraction of the lcd
23:15:58Lloreanamiconn: Could LCD updates be handled on the cop during normal use by chance?
23:16:07BigBambiI have no say, and no real feel for the limitations, and I normally am a staunch defender of no pointless visual crap for the sake of it, but in this case I feel an extra font would be beneficial
23:16:40LambdaCalculus37BigBambi: Example of a good use of this: International characters in id3/metadata tags.
23:16:44LloreanI think one extra user font wouldn't be bad. Plus a "Menu" font separate from the WPS font.
23:16:52BigBambithat would be nice
23:16:59*DerPapst nods
23:17:00BigBambi+ a different remote font
23:17:13linuxstbOn the modern targets, I think it's about 2.5KB, about 60% of which is in apps/ On the Archos recorder, it's 1436 bytes, of which 1008 bytes is apps/
23:17:26LambdaCalculus37I have some songs with Japanese characters in the metadata, and they don't show up unless I use the Sazanami fonts or Unifont.
23:17:35 Quit uwe_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
23:17:40LambdaCalculus37And the Unifont Cabbie 2.0 doesn't work for squat.
23:17:49 Join Kamerad [0] (i=Kamerad@vhe-490024.sshn.net)
23:17:54 Quit GodEater ("Leaving")
23:17:55BigBambiunifont looks horrible
23:18:00LambdaCalculus37Too big.
23:18:05DerPapstthis is what i meant by 3 fonts anyways.. one for the menu, 2 for the wps...
23:18:11LambdaCalculus37Nice on the Gigabeat, though.
23:18:12LloreanLambdaCalculus37: Extra fonts isn't going to be able to help much with that though. You can't really say "If you don't find the characters, load a different font" without some further additional logic.
23:18:13BigBambi+1 for remote...
23:18:14amiconnFyi, the targets I tried peakmeters (without observing skipping, except _one single_ skip on H180 this afternoon): bitmapped archos of course, plus H180, H340, X5, H10 6GB, iPod Mini iPod 2nd Gen, iPod Video.
23:18:21 Quit kropt (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
23:18:49amiconnThat's with either default wps, or my 'fullinfo' wps which is rather similar
23:18:51LambdaCalculus37Llorean: True.
23:19:11Buschel_soap: could you test fs#8379v6? I guess for mp3-playback the runtime should at least be the same −− I am mostly interested in stability.
23:20:03*DerPapst fades away
23:20:15preglowBuschel_: are you sure the pll should consume noticable cpu, though?
23:20:19preglowi'm convinced it should
23:20:46amiconn...and a font suitable for the display size. Going from rockfont-8 (archos), through the various nimbus variants up to nimbus-19 (on the Video)
23:20:58Buschel_preglow: i am not convinced at all −− just hoping to find some mA's
23:21:30preglowi'm _not_ convinced it should...
23:21:34*preglow blames beer
23:21:47BigBambibeer beer beer
23:21:51BigBambiSorry
23:21:57pixelmabeer isn't around here ;)
23:22:06BigBambiBeer is here :)
23:22:07*preglow is guzzling his own produce
23:22:13amiconnhmm
23:22:13BigBambireally?
23:22:26amiconnMaybe the skipping comes from using album art?
23:22:28*BigBambi is guzzling leffe tripple
23:22:34BigBambioops
23:22:35stripwaxcou
23:22:43stripwaxoops
23:22:49preglowleffe tripel is better than my own produce :/
23:22:54preglowdoes leffe make a tripel?
23:23:01stripwaxcould be albumart+dircache flushing+db updating .. ?
23:23:04BigBambiYeah, even if I can't spell
23:23:36amiconnAfaik the skipping happens while buffering, and surely album art needs to look up and load stuff while buffering?
23:24:02Buschel_preglow: btw, i hoped the PLL could be switched off to save some current, not CPU time.
23:24:11stripwaxGodEater - did you have albumart on your wps when it skipped?
23:24:17amiconnJust a guess.... but it might be the problem....
23:24:22LambdaCalculus37amiconn: Strangely enough, my iPod never skips when loading album art. :\
23:24:26*stripwax did..
23:24:44LambdaCalculus37Make that "WITH" album art.
23:24:47BigBambiLambdaCalculus37: Have you had skipping otherwise? (without peakmeters)
23:24:51amiconnI'm not sure how album art works - does it look for the various .bmp always, even if there's no such tag in the wps?
23:24:54preglowBuschel_: i probably meant runtime...
23:25:07stripwaxamiconn - I'd hope not
23:25:14pixelmaamiconn: I think it doesn't
23:25:16BigBambiamiconn: I don't believe so, but Nico_P ...
23:25:18amiconnI have no such .bmp files on my devices at all, hence it can't load any such stuff
23:25:25Buschel_preglow: ah, ok
23:25:36LambdaCalculus37BigBambi: I use Cabbie 2.0 for WPS; 100x100 AA, and I use Q5 Vorbis as my codec.
23:25:52LambdaCalculus37The ONLY way it skips is for me to shake the iPod around.
23:26:03BigBambihaha
23:26:13LambdaCalculus37Either I got lucky and got a well-behaved iPod, or Rockbox loves me. :P
23:26:23 Join kropt [0] (n=kropt@unaffiliated/kropt)
23:26:39stripwaxLambdaCalculus37- with dircache and database?
23:26:47LambdaCalculus37stripwax: Yep.
23:26:54stripwaxv interesting
23:27:12LambdaCalculus37stripwax: And very mysterious. :)
23:27:55linuxstbLambdaCalculus37: Does the Rio Karma's documentation or firmware mention anywhere that is uses ecos?
23:28:26pixelmamight be interesting to collect the config.cfg files of those who report skipping - maybe it is a combination of a few features?
23:28:34amiconnstripwax: I use dircache (only on 32MB targets and except iPod mini), but neither album art (no .bmp file on the device except a few backdrops for occasional testing), nor any dynamic database feature (playing stats, rating)
23:29:05amiconnpixelma: .cfg file *plus* directory listing....
23:29:40LambdaCalculus37linuxstb: DAPreview.net has an article about the Karma; eCos is mentioned: http://www.dapreview.net/p/content/content.php?content.193#OS
23:29:41amiconnImho it can only be either database updating stuff, or albumart
23:30:04LambdaCalculus37Older release with RHEPL license.
23:30:05soapBuschel_, I will test v6 tomorrow, in "real-world" usage.
23:30:14*stripwax will too
23:30:18amiconn...since it happens at rebuffering time
23:30:27Buschel_soap/stripwax: perfect :)
23:30:36amiconn...and obviously doesn't depend on audio format
23:30:38stripwaxI *only* get skipping on startup , first-time buffering
23:30:50stripwaxand about one time in six starts
23:32:02pixelmahaven't encountered skipping since the days after the MoB commit and I do use album art (have it in my WPS) but actually have only a very few albums who contain the .bmp file
23:32:23amiconnCould also be last.fm logging (never tried that on swcodec, only on archos for testing where it now works)
23:32:32*stripwax has that enabled too ..
23:33:29pixelmas/who/which (album is not a person) :)
23:33:47 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection)
23:33:55Bagderhttp://linux.slashdot.org/linux/08/01/04/2048218.shtml <= gave us lots of visitors
23:34:20linuxstbLambdaCalculus37: My reading of the RHEPL is that Rio should have offered the source changes to "anyone to whom you made an Executable version available and to the Initial Developer" - i.e. users should have received an offer of the source, not just ecos. IMO that could be worth chasing up.
23:34:29 Quit desowin ()
23:34:51stripwaxawesome
23:35:05LambdaCalculus37linuxstb: There's a forum user named ukre that was part of the hardware team for the Karma. It would be worth talking to him, too.
23:35:31LambdaCalculus37But I still need my own Karma. My coworker refuses to part with his, even in the name of hardware hacking.
23:36:04stripwaxI have a slightly-broken Karma (which mostly refuses to boot ) - any use?
23:36:25stripwax(Not strictly speaking mine to give away)
23:36:48stripwaxbut could help out with software testing?
23:37:20*ender` yawns
23:37:38scorcheonce again... ;)
23:39:04 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net)
23:39:47 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net)
23:40:05lyon8_good night ;)
23:42:13 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.)
23:42:14 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net)
23:42:49LambdaCalculus37stripwax: Yes, definitely!
23:43:13stripwaxpotentially have access to two, in various states of not-working-ness ..
23:43:31 Join leftright [0] (n=d9e1d077@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5b0ac9307fbad938)
23:43:44stripwax(both owners now have working ipods)
23:44:30LambdaCalculus37stripwax: Can you perhaps scan the mainboards?
23:45:34*Buschel_ goes to bed.. gotta go working tomorrow :/
23:45:36Buschel_bye
23:45:41LambdaCalculus37Or better yet... do you have adaptors that'll fit the hard drives?
23:45:45 Quit Buschel_ ()
23:46:35stripwaxLambdaCalculus37 - adaptors, no.. if you need a working harddrive these two particular models might not be what you're after ..
23:46:39Nico_PBagder: any idea how come that story gave vistors?
23:46:52Nico_Por maybe I'm missing something
23:47:00amiconnLambdaCalculus37: I don't think you need an adaptor iiuc
23:47:01Bagderseveral comments mention rockbox
23:47:03stripwaxNico_P - second or third post down?
23:47:18Bagder>500 referers and counting
23:47:22amiconnYou should be able to connect those drives to a standard 2.5" hdd connector
23:47:27leftrighttwo of the Rio devs also hang out here, peter, and defector, they are busy updating the Trekstors firmware with beta testing
23:47:27Nico_Pah yes
23:47:33leftrighthttp://www.riovolution.org/thread/794
23:48:19 Quit Alonea ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007120410]")
23:48:41amiconnDomonoky: What happened to that turkish name on the frontpage??
23:49:10amiconnHmm, in the ViewVC log view it's okay
23:49:13amiconnBagder?
23:49:14LambdaCalculus37amiconn: With the horizontal oriented 1.8" hard drive in the Karma?
23:49:24amiconnLambdaCalculus37: yes
23:49:35LambdaCalculus37amiconn: Worth a shot.
23:49:46LambdaCalculus37I'll try it out.
23:49:50Bagderutf8 never worked on the front page svn output
23:50:48 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
23:50:49 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net)
23:51:09amiconnThe frontpage is reported as iso8859-1 in firefox. The ViewVC log view is utf-8
23:51:13leftrightLambdaCalculus37: some guy put a zif HDD in his karma at that riovolution site
23:51:20Bagderamiconn: exactly, that's one reason...
23:51:30LambdaCalculus37leftright: Reading those now.
23:51:37Domonokyamiconn: so its not my fault ? :-)
23:51:45Nico_Pthe encoding is also borken in the commit email it seems
23:51:55amiconnSo it looks like there are 2 things to fix: the codepage for the frontpage, and probably the script generating the info
23:52:19pixelmanot the first time this is happening
23:52:30Nico_PI fixed encoding in the commit emails my svn sends by setting the locale in the post-commit hook
23:52:33amiconnDomonoky: No, your only 'fault' is that you used utf-8 which the frontpage obviously doesn't like
23:53:19Domonoky:-)
23:53:20*amiconn uses iso8859-1 instead, which appears correctly on the frontpage but not in ViewVC instead (if I use extended chars, which doesn't happen often)
23:54:25*preglow chants UTF-8!
23:55:22amiconnIf only it would work properly in most places
23:55:27amiconn...which it doesn't
23:55:33preglowlike where?
23:55:40preglow"places" should be fixed to work properly with it
23:56:00amiconnFirst, and most important for me: Windows
23:56:05preglowwindows :/
23:56:17Nico_Pbah
23:56:20 Quit ATravelingGeek (Network is unreachable)
23:56:59 Join ATravelingGeek [0] (n=ATG@pdpc/supporter/student/ATravelingGeek)
23:57:00amiconnThe nasty thing is that windows *does* support utf-8, but you can't choose it for a locale
23:57:10preglowamiconn: isn't that mainly an application issue, though?
23:57:16amiconnno
23:58:28amiconnWin32 applications can either do everything in unicode, but that means ucs-2 in windows, or they operate in 'ascii', which actually means whatever codepage the selected locale defines
23:58:35preglowyeah
23:58:51amiconnAnd there is no locale which selects utf-8
23:58:57preglowbut that still doesn't mean programs can't read/write utf8 and use utf-16 internally

Previous day | Next day