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#rockbox log for 2008-01-26

00:02:15Nico_Pvery true
00:02:23 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m94.net81-66-75.noos.fr)
00:02:38stripwaxalthough for albumart it'd be ideal if resizing was in core - and then sliding_puzzle could just load the same (high-resolution) bitmap and resize it appropriately.
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00:03:07*stripwax doubts anyone would have a 100x100 bitmap *and* a LCD_HEIGHT^2 bitmap just for sliding_puzzle
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00:05:08stripwaxbut sliding_puzzle would look nicer if they did :)
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00:06:05Buschelpreglow: did you find anything about PCF-setting of PCF-registers in the OF?
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00:07:02preglowBuschel: i found the routine that sets pcf regs, but really not too much use of it...
00:07:10preglowBuschel: i'm starting to think i was perhaps a bit too fast
00:07:27Buschelpreglow: but you've also played around with the settings on your nano?
00:07:45preglowBuschel: no voltage playing around so far, just figuring out if any of the regs could be disabled
00:09:28preglowlike i said, i'm not too keen on playing around with voltages unless we discover that retailos also uses a lower voltage
00:09:43preglowit'll just end up a support nightmare
00:10:14Buschelpreglow: that's correct for submitting it into svn
00:10:25preglowtrue enough
00:10:29preglowbut that's what i'm going for anyway
00:11:05preglowi wonder if that sansa emulator is far enough along to be able to emulate retailos init...
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00:15:14Buschelok, I gotta leave and get some sleep. see you tomorrow
00:15:36Buschelahem, see you later −− it's already 0:13 here
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00:22:32Nico_Pstripwax: I think I'll try to commit this evening
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00:22:57Nico_Pare all the bitmaps supposed to go in apps/plugins/bitmaps/native?
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01:08:56stripwaxNicoP - oops, sorry. back again. Yes - apps/plugins/bitmaps/native - thanks!
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01:09:23TyroazardHey #rockbox, what kinds of video formats are supported? Yes, I'
01:09:28Tyroazard(Damned enter key)
01:09:33TyroazardI've checked the manual
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01:10:10Tyroazard..
01:10:23TyroazardWell then, I guess I'll have to resort to trial and error >.>
01:10:55stripwaxTyroazard - well, what did the manual say? did it say mpeg1 and mpeg2 only?
01:11:12TyroazardLet's see
01:11:20stripwaxLet's :)
01:11:25TyroazardFile formats
01:11:45Tyroazardhttp://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildap1.html#x14-236000A
01:11:47TyroazardNot there
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01:12:05TyroazardOh right, I remember, MPEG
01:12:13stripwaxTyroazard : - hmm, anything here : http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch9.html#x12-1820009.3.3
01:12:19stripwaxunder "MPEG Player"
01:12:54TyroazardYes, much better
01:12:56Tyroazard._.
01:13:34stripwaxCurious that the File Formats doesn't list .mpg as a supported extension though <odd>
01:13:54stripwaxAlthough it also states that ROLO will load rockbox.ipod, which is also false
01:14:09stripwaxunless that got fixed?
01:14:42TyroazardMaybe it's not updated? >.>
01:14:47*stripwax wonders
01:15:38TyroazardGragh, it's disappeared again
01:15:48Lloreanstripwax: ROLO should load rockbox.ipod...
01:16:15stripwaxLlorean - hm, I thought there was a problem with cop that meant it couldn't ..
01:17:11TyroazardAlright, Have fun with your discussions, I'm going to hunt for my video converter
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01:18:04Lloreanstripwax: Well, I know it was doing it successfully for some period of time
01:18:33countrymonkeyCould 8496 and 8502 be committed? Krazykit informed me of some corrections and they were done. He said they were ready for commit. Could they be committed?
01:18:56Lloreancountrymonkey: How many times have I reminded you that you don't need to come in here and pester people about committing your patches?
01:20:24countrymonkeyKrazykit was the one who told me to ask people who had commit access.,
01:20:38countrymonkeyhere.
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01:20:51*stripwax sighs
01:21:17*Tyroazard doesn't know what's going on
01:21:31Tyroazard._.
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01:21:50stripwaxLlorean - without friendly reminders would patches get committed in due course anyway?
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01:21:53Nico_Pstripwax: commiteed :)
01:21:56*stripwax isn't sure
01:21:59stripwaxNico_P - wahey!
01:22:00*stripwax is converted
01:22:47*Tyroazard is confused
01:22:48stripwaxNico_P - many thanks. Do I win the award for the oldest feature request closed? :-)
01:23:03Nico_Phehe, maybe
01:23:04Lloreanstripwax: Friendly reminders are fine. Pestering people repeatedly isn't.
01:23:10*stripwax finds the flyspray number
01:23:22LloreanA friendly reminder should be A) to the mailing list, and B) Asking "is it ready, and if not, how can I make it ready"
01:23:25stripwaxLlorean - fair enough. I realise that I've been pestering people of late.
01:23:45stripwaxin the B) style , luckily
01:24:01stripwaxhttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/1520?histring=bitmap%20sliding%20puzzle
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01:24:02LloreanHe has a habit of showing up within just a few minutes of posting a task, and pestering about it.
01:24:03stripwax#1520
01:24:09stripwaxah. ok.
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01:24:26stripwaxonly 4.5 years. not bad.
01:24:41LloreanI'm of the opinion that something should be in the tracker a minimum of a week before "reminders" should even be considered.
01:24:43Nico_Pstripwax: I didn't feel pestered at all in case you wonder... I should have been quicker to commit the patch ;)
01:25:00TyroazardWhat patches?
01:25:01stripwaxNico_P - around exam time? no, I think you did fine :)
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01:25:56stripwaxTyroazard - this one: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7218?histring=sliding%20puzzle
01:27:07TyroazardOh.
01:27:22stripwaxLlorean - for sure. Didn't know the details (was thinking my friendly reminders of my 8-month-old patch were a bit rude :-)
01:28:03TyroazardOh yes, might I ask why the scrollwheel is sometimes irresponsive until I press a button?
01:28:04stripwaxNico_P - can you mark that feature request closed too! :-)
01:28:11Nico_Pdone just now
01:28:15Nico_Pstripwax: we have some red
01:28:17stripwaxsuperstar
01:28:20TyroazardAnd if that is a feature, how I could turn that off?
01:28:21stripwaxah. not so super
01:28:32stripwaxTyroazard - vaguely known issue. not sure.
01:28:56TyroazardAh.
01:29:30stripwaxM-Robe is a build newer than my patch (not sure that absolves me from blame). Ipod Color - confess I didn't try...
01:30:34rasherstripwax: and h300
01:30:36stripwaxH300 - that error is confusing me.
01:30:38stripwaxright
01:30:47rasherThought you might've missed it on the far right
01:31:00stripwax"undefined reference to sliding_puzzle" - that means I'm missing a native bitmap for h300?
01:31:33stripwaxoh, same for ipod color. crapola. let me just knock up a couple bitmaps in the correct res..
01:31:45rashersame res
01:31:46Nico_Pyeah, they're the same screen size
01:31:54stripwaxah-hah..
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01:32:02stripwaxwhich is?
01:32:15Nico_P220x176
01:32:24*stripwax whips up a 176x176 image
01:32:31Nico_Pwhat are all the mrobe build failures about? bad build server?
01:32:49rasherlooks like it
01:33:21Nico_Pstripwax: some builds have a warning too: "sliding_puzzle.c:577:25: warning: "SANSE_C200_PAD" is not defined"
01:33:22stripwaxNico_P - hrm, it seems I have a 176x176 bitmap already. Is something else missing?
01:33:43Nico_Ptypo I guess
01:33:43TyroazardWhich one would be better? MPEG1 or 2?
01:33:52stripwaxNico_P - no idea. Unless that's just me fat-fingering some define.
01:34:19rasherstripwax: sansE?
01:34:28TyroazardUsing logic I would say 2, but I don't know about video formatas
01:34:29stripwaxyeah
01:34:31Tyroazard-a
01:34:36stripwaxprobably :)
01:35:06stripwaxwhat can I say, it's an old patch
01:36:04Nico_Pfound the bitmap problem too
01:36:14stripwaxwhat was it?
01:36:20Nico_Panother typo :)
01:36:30stripwaxoh, right. LCD_WIDTH ... twice ..
01:36:41Nico_Pyes
01:37:29Nico_Pfix committed
01:37:40stripwaxin the 'real world' do people really test builds against all platforms or just rely on the build servers to flag problems?
01:38:03stripwaxI confess, I didn't set up a build for every single rockbox platform available
01:38:14stripwaxNico_P - awesome, thanks!
01:39:12Nico_Pstripwax: depends on the change I guess
01:39:53Nico_Pbut judging from the frequency of "oops" or "fix red/yellow" commits, I believe people rely on the build system :)
01:39:56LloreanI still think we need some sort of "Full target test" target in configure that'll build a wide (or full) range of builds to verify major commits.
01:40:04stripwax:)
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01:41:19Nico_PLlorean: that's take a lot of time, but I agree it's be good
01:41:43Nico_Ps/'s/'d
01:41:45LloreanYeah, but for *really* major patches, it'd be nice.
01:42:45rasherI don't see the big problem in relying on the build system, as long as you're reasonably confidennt that any errors that might arise can be fixed quickly
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01:42:49Nico_Pit's actually quite an easy script to write
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01:43:27stripwaxok, I really have to sleep now (and pack a suitcase in the a.m.). Nico_P - thanks again. I hope to have a working ipod to test your patch shortly..
01:44:05Nico_Pstripwax: well thank you for the patch
01:44:13Nico_Pand good night :)
01:45:24*stripwax sighs - now his ipod is hanging on the rockbox logo.
01:45:36Nico_PI like markun's idea about usability studies, but I'm not sure it's really appropriate for a GSoC project
01:45:47stripwaxNico_P - without your patch, I hasten to add. thinking Buschel's broken it :-P
01:45:48Nico_Pstripwax: have you tried without Buschel's patch?
01:45:52Nico_Pah
01:45:55stripwaxright. and not yet.
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01:49:47markunNico_P: maybe not, but when I was at google they told us they also wanted something like gsoc for non-computer science students. Laws students for example.
01:49:48golephishhey whats up
01:50:22Nico_Pmarkun: hope they do it :)
01:50:59markunI listened to a nice podcast about usability, but it's in german: http://chaosradio.ccc.de/cre064.html
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01:51:41golephishhey are they ever going to make a rockbox for zune ?
01:52:07buckoI suspect Zune is heavily closed?
01:52:09markunif someone figures out a way to run code on the zune
01:52:35golephishhow close are they ?
01:52:43markunit's mostly the same hardware as the Gigabeat S... but with a nice security bug fixed :(
01:52:43Nico_Pgolephish: far
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01:53:02markunfar away :)
01:53:22SoapBritney:Sanity Zune:Rockbox
01:53:38stripwaxheh
01:53:38Nico_Pstripwax: are you planning on testing the patch this evening?
01:53:53stripwaxprobably more likely over the next week while snowboarding ;-)
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01:54:12Nico_Pah I'm going to do exactly the same
01:54:13markungolephish: there is not really a 'they'. There were some people claiming they were porting linux to the zune, but it was all talk and now work.
01:54:20stripwaxyet to get a working build, just built without Buschel's latest patch so we'll see.
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01:54:48Nico_Pstripwax: where are you going?
01:54:56Nico_PI mean for the snowboarding
01:55:52golephishstripwax −− what patch are you speakin of?
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01:57:51markungolephish: this one I think: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8379
01:59:09stripwaxNico_P - can't really recall - France somewhere..
01:59:20stripwax(14 of us..)
01:59:43Nico_Pstripwax: if by chance it's La Plagne we should try meeting
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02:00:36stripwaxlemme just actually find out ..!
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02:03:49golephishyo markin
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02:03:52golephish wtf is http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8379 ?
02:04:01stripwaxgolephish - power
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02:04:10golephish??
02:04:14stripwaxgolephish - battery life
02:04:21golephishfor waht ?
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02:04:40stripwaxipod & sansa
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02:05:12golephishah
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02:09:01stripwaxNico_P - alpe d'huez (apparently)
02:09:17Nico_Pah, nice resort too :)
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02:12:30stripwaxooh, hope so :)
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02:12:46stripwaxok, let's see if *this* build works ..
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02:14:25stripwaxit boots!! </young frankestein>
02:14:50stripwaxum, track skips are unresponsive
02:15:15stripwaxoh, no, just very slow while buffering
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02:15:40stripwaxafter buffering - works very well imo
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02:16:01stripwaxand wps (visually) updates immediately, essentially
02:16:09saratogasurprisingly, my Sansa's been running at 1.1v for the last 6 hours
02:16:14saratogano glitches or crashes
02:16:28saratogai wonder what the PP5024 is speced at
02:16:35Lloreansaratoga: There's still the AMS codec chip in the e200 that could be to blame (in response to your forum post)
02:16:39stripwaxNico_P - I rather like it. comcerned about the delay in responsiveness while initial uffering however
02:16:57Nico_Pstripwax: yeah I'm not surprised
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02:17:24Nico_Pdo you think you could try with the queue_send calls changed to queue_post in audi_prev and audio_next?
02:17:55Nico_Pmight be more responsive
02:18:06stripwaxhm. I pressed skip back about seven times and it's now playing a *totally* different album
02:18:25Nico_Pdon't you have auto dir change enabled?
02:18:31stripwaxin the sense that pressing fwd * 7 doesn't take me back to where i came from
02:18:35stripwaxyes
02:18:40Nico_Pah
02:19:12stripwaxwhat happens if i skip back prior to track #1 in my playlist ?
02:19:24Nico_Pit will go to the prev dir
02:19:34Nico_P(last track of it)
02:20:03saratogaLlorean: which forum post?
02:20:21stripwaxhm, in that case it might be going crazy .. pressing back * 7 skipped from M to A (and I have over 10,000 tracks...)
02:20:22LloreanClipping in the WMA file on e200?
02:20:46saratogaoh
02:20:49saratogaogg file i think
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02:21:40stripwaxhm, and skipping back some more and music playback stops completely and i'm at the main menu.. hrrm.. something is not right here
02:21:55stripwaxand play now says "nothing to resume"
02:22:01Nico_Pok I guess it needs more work :)
02:23:10stripwaxskipping fwd seems to work much better than back ...
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02:23:46stripwaxyeah skipping back RAPIDLY beyond an album boundary makes it go crazy ....
02:23:53saratogaLlorean: unless hes burned out the as3514's amp, i don't think it could be a codec problem because it doesn't happen on my Sansa
02:24:13stripwaxamost like each subsequent 'back' skips an entire folder (rather than track)
02:24:23Nico_Phmm
02:24:29saratogaand also since I've never heard of anyone else reporting such a problem, which i would expect to happen on any loud track if it were a codec issue
02:24:42stripwaxalmost.
02:24:56stripwaxseems in fact like it skips more than an entire album. no idea what it's doing.
02:24:59saratogaif you mean the WMA decoder problems everyone is reporting, i think thats just my codec not working with the lastest version of the MS encoder
02:25:06saratogawhich needs to be fixed
02:25:18stripwaxok - i really have to sleep now. early flight, later all
02:25:21stripwaxNico_P - and thanks!
02:25:30Nico_Pyou're welcome ;)
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02:26:23Lloreansaratoga: When we weren't sure the ASwhatever was configured right, it produced clipping. And every now and then I see someone with a problem file that they claim clips. I wouldn't be surprised if the settings aren't perfect yet
02:26:53Lloreansaratoga: If you didn't hear clipping on that WMA file though, I guess that's that.
02:27:04saratogaogg file right?
02:27:07pixelmasaratoga: I have a wmv here and wanted to try if Rockbox can play the audio part of it (out of curiosity) - it plays the track and doesn't freeze the player but all I hear are strange noises. How can I find out what type of wma it is and would you be interested at all?
02:27:20Lloreansaratoga: I'm pretty sure it was a WMA that he gave as a sample
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02:27:37LloreanYeah, 04-Fading Away.wma
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02:27:53saratogahttp://74.167.183.209/docs/04-Fading%20Away.ogg
02:27:59saratogaoddly enough he posted it in both formats
02:28:22saratogathe vorbis one didn't clip at least (well at least not more then it should given he didn't use replaygain)
02:29:23LloreanInteresting
02:29:34saratogapixelma: at the moment, not really
02:29:56LloreanBut I have heard occasional reports of the sound quality in Rockbox on e200 showing clipping-like noises. Nothing solid though, but I don't want to dismiss them, because I know we're unsure-ish of the "right" settings for the AMS chip
02:29:56saratogai've got about 10 samples to look at and i'm preoccupied with the power consumption issues on the PP targets
02:30:17pixelmasaratoga: sure :)
02:30:44saratogapixelma: also, WMA pro tracks are not uncommon for WMVs
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02:31:04pixelmahow can I find out?
02:31:16saratogagraphedit maybe?
02:31:25saratogaor avicodec on windows would be better
02:31:40saratogaits not actually avi specific
02:31:50XavierGrdoes anyone know from which function the boot logo is displayed, I already commented out show_logo() main.c and still see it :\
02:32:48XavierGrhmm dircache calls it too...
02:34:36pixelmasaratoga: ah thanks, avicodec looks interesting might look into later
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02:56:22XavierGrjust trying to find where the Gigabeat S crashes seems a pain
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02:58:41webguest21hollar my negros!
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02:59:44webguest21soo.. no brothas?
02:59:47webguest21with huge cocks?
02:59:51webguest21plz?
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03:00:34XavierGrjust ban him
03:00:45webguest21NOOOOO!!!!
03:01:04webguest21I will follow the topic
03:01:05webguest21for reals
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03:23:40XavierGrbah fighting with the gigabeat S for over an hour and I can't even tell where it crashes after it loads the firmware!!
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03:46:25kkurbjunxaviergr, is there a jtag port on the gigabeat s?
03:46:42toffe82kkurbjun: yes
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03:47:18kkurbjunyou can do quite a bit of debugging with that, has anyone connect to it?
03:47:29kkurbjunconnected that is
03:52:25toffe82I don't think so
03:52:50toffe82the jtag on this cpu is not as simple as on the one of the F
03:54:02kkurbjunhow do you mean?
03:54:24kkurbjunare there other devices in the chain
03:57:34toffe82kkurbjun: check your email
03:58:27kkurbjungot it
03:59:03kkurbjunso there's a couple of other devices in the chain, but they can be put in bypass
03:59:13kkurbjunas long as you know the instruction register length
03:59:56kkurbjunI've never tried openocd with more than one device in the chain (since I've only done the gigabeat F)
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04:00:06kkurbjunthe m:robe only has 1 device in the chain too I think
04:00:15toffe82there is also a security on the jtag
04:00:31kkurbjunhmm, is it enabled?
04:00:51kkurbjunI remember reading somethign like that a while ago, but
04:01:12*eigma is around
04:01:24toffe82we don't know
04:01:35kkurbjun:), eigma does the m:robe have more than one device in teh chain?
04:01:42eigmanope, just the ARM
04:01:50toffe82there is also a way to load the bootloader via serial port