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#rockbox log for 2008-01-27

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00:16:08Lopin13You guys are still having problems reverse engineering the Creative Zen Vision M, right?
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00:19:05Nico_Psome progress has been made but no code runs yet
00:19:32Lopin13Well... I have one that runs with a busted screen...
00:19:40Lopin13Thinking about donating it to the cause...
00:20:23Nico_Pfor that you should go to the dedicated thread in the forums
00:20:54Lopin13Okay... I didn't know where to go... Thanks! ^.^
00:21:04Nico_P"new ports" section
00:21:16Lopin13?
00:21:35Lopin13Why new ports?
00:21:42BigBambiBecause it is a new port?
00:22:13Lopin13Well...
00:22:15Lopin13Maybe...
00:22:19BigBambiIt is
00:22:36BigBambiRockbox does not run on it, therefore an attempt to port rockbox to it is a new port
00:22:46Lopin13Okay...
00:22:50Lopin13I think I get it..
00:22:52BigBambiWhat else is it?
00:23:23Lopin13I don't know... That's why I came here... I'm trying to find a good home for my mp3 player...
00:23:37BigBambiTrust me, it is a new port
00:23:39Lopin13To see if it could help you guys get a port sooner...
00:23:46Lopin13Okay... I believe you... ^.^
00:23:47BigBambiAnd help is appreciated :)
00:24:32Lopin13I'm not very good with the coding, and definitely not good with the hardware, but I'm not going to be able to use it any more, so if one of your developers could use it, then I'm all for it...
00:24:43Lopin13It wouldn't have died in vain...
00:25:19BigBambiThere are some guys working on a new port of rockbox to the Zen Vision M, and it is they who would likely benefit from your kind offer. All their efforts are currently documented in the Zen Vision M thread in the New Ports forum, so if you post there asking if they would like it/if it would help, then they will be able to let you know :)
00:25:50Lopin13Okay... Thanks for the info! ^.^
00:25:57Lopin13I'll head over there now...
00:26:03BigBambiCheers :)
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01:06:22Benjghi all
01:06:27 Nick feisar_ is now known as feisar (i=jljhook@noppakerho.com)
01:06:32BenjgCan someone help me out?
01:06:46BigBambiOnly if you ask a question
01:06:51BenjgI am trying to get loader 2 on my ipod
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01:06:59Benjgusing this tut
01:07:07BigBambiWe do not support loader 2
01:07:10Benjghttp://www.ipodhacking.com/wiki/index.php/Install_Loader2
01:07:20BigBambiWe only support the official rockbox software
01:07:23BenjgAnd it does not work
01:07:25BenjgOh
01:07:41BenjgI just thought you guys might know how to get it working
01:07:51BigBambiIt is not our software, ask the iPodlinux people how to use it
01:07:59BenjgOk
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01:26:59filthpigis there some way to convert an entire folder from flac to mp3? I have approx 100 gb with flac, so it would be nice to convert all of it without human interference...
01:27:20BigBambiWindows?
01:27:35scorche|shthere are plenty of programs to do that, but they are all a bit offtopic for this channel
01:27:42BigBambifilthpig: Try foobar2000
01:27:50Slasherifrom linux that would be just a simple command line script
01:27:51BigBambiBut yeah, OT
01:30:15filthpigah, sorry
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01:38:26filthpigSlasheri, can I pm you?
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01:42:54Ihelp
01:43:27Ilook
01:43:35II did the bootloader
01:43:40Ibut the rockbox file name
01:43:44Iwas not .rockbox
01:43:53Iso now my ipod is stuck on the apple logo
01:43:56Ino disk mode
01:43:57markunI: just unzip rockbox.zip onto your player
01:43:58Ior nothing
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01:44:14markunhm, don't know how to enter disk mode on an ipod
01:44:20markunmaybe it's in the manual
01:44:34markunsearch for it or wait for someone who knows
01:44:49scorche|shhe quit from someone with the mane I
01:44:52scorche|shname
01:44:58markunoops :)
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01:47:41markunI: welcome back
01:48:35IThanks
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01:49:16markunhaha :)
01:49:27scorche|shI: hold menu+select to reset, then immediately hold select+play/pause
01:49:46scorche|sh...as it says in the manual
01:49:49markunscorche|sh: he's gone man
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01:50:27scorche|shoops :)
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02:01:35scorche|shi suck
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04:09:41lostlogichttp://www.lostlogicx.com/gallery/20080126_Rockbox_Party/1/cimg0042/
04:10:04midgeyimpressive
04:10:57lostlogicwe basically kick ass :)
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04:14:00scorche|shtallest tower ever!
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04:16:17XavierGrholy shit!
04:16:26XavierGrthat's a nice tower very tall... :O
04:18:31XavierGrthough I still prefer amiconn's & pixelma's tower, it is more robust and symmetric :P
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04:19:12scorche|shit is, but ours is taller :)
04:19:17scorche|shand you left..
04:19:26*scorche|sh goesback to beer adn tennis
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05:37:29kenailesi have an e250 v1 with a 4gb micro sdhc card. when i boot into rockbox, my player will freeze up and never get past the boot screen if i have the card inserted. if i boot up and then insert the card, everything is fine afterward. i have checked the rockbox forums and the manual but can't seem to find out if this is normal. is it normal?
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05:40:08psycho_maniacwhen was the last time you updated rockox?
05:41:42kenailes30 minutes ago
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06:56:36fabiolaanyone there?
06:58:40JdGordonnope
06:58:48fabiolalol
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06:59:30fabiolasince you're the only one out there
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07:00:03fabiolado you know about how to get the latest build on my toshiba?
07:00:21fabiolai mean running
07:00:31scorche|shlol
07:00:46scorche|shsorry...that wasnt me
07:00:53fabiolareally?
07:00:55fabiolaxD
07:01:02fabiolait's ok
07:01:15scorche|shjust extract the .zip right onto the root of the device
07:01:25fabiolasure i did
07:01:34fabiolabut i extracted and old version
07:01:40fabiolai tried to unzip the latest
07:02:03fabiolaand anytime i want to run any of the rocks (such as doom etc) says incompatible version
07:02:48fabiolaor codec error
07:02:51fabiolawhen i play songs
07:04:11scorche|shlol!
07:04:25scorche|shugh...ignore him
07:04:26fabiolanot you .......... again?
07:05:25fabiolaok from now on i'll ignore every lol from your nick
07:06:25scorche|shlmao
07:06:31scorche|shroflcopter
07:06:36scorche|shomg lol owned
07:07:08*scorche|sh sighs
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07:07:31fabiolawell like i was saying i have to go back to the oldest because i can't make the latest run, and i really want to have the latest
07:08:05scorche|shthe error you are getting typically occurs from not extracting the entire .zip onto your device
07:09:03fabiolayea i unzip the entire zip file, but when i unzip the latest for the toshiba it's missing the gbsystem folder and without it says the no system found on hdd
07:09:42scorche|shphtyobih8k
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07:12:38midkay2LOL scorche got owned
07:12:57fabiolahuh?
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07:16:27midkay2scorche is an impostor
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07:17:38midkay2scorche is a liar
07:17:43midkay2and he gives bad advice
07:17:46midkay2dot trust him
07:17:48midkay2I sweat
07:17:58fabiolalol sweat?
07:17:59fabiolahaha
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08:31:01Calcipherhey people, anyone around
08:31:12DogBoyyou are
08:31:13CalcipherI have been MIA since mid november
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08:31:50CalcipherI spent a few minutes reading the last few hundred commits haha
08:31:58Calcipherjust to catch up
08:32:19Calciphercrazy dev work got done since I last looked in
08:32:37CalcipherThink I'll check out the latest build
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08:47:00Calcipherwhoa, I can't find a simple rbutil dl link
08:47:11Calcipherlet me look deeper
08:48:32Calcipherfound it in rbutil section in the wiki
08:49:13Calcipherwould have thought it would be under extras in the download section, as I think I remember it being there before, I may be wrong though
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08:58:06shadowcodeHI all :)
08:58:59shadowcodeI have some questions.
08:59:27shadowcodeI am working on porting the RockBox to RockChip RK26**
08:59:50shadowcodebut I need some help
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09:02:10shadowcodethe RK26** is zsp400 architecture and the only compilers/assemblers I fount are the GreenHills MULTI but it is inposible to get it
09:02:13shadowcodeand
09:02:27shadowcodethe ZSP gcc
09:02:45shadowcodebut it to have been removed from the site
09:03:16shadowcodecen someone help ?
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09:04:27Calcipherhmm, hey has anyone tried using the latest rbutil to create talk files with default lame and SAPI TTS option? I get a TTS path incorrect error
09:04:40Calcipher"path to TTS is wrong!"
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09:06:59shadowcodemarkun do you have some info on this ?
09:07:59shadowcodethe last time you gave me a link to a pdf that mentiond the sdcc ?
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09:21:13CalcipherI wonder if anyone would be interested in having voice box have an option to include some metadata tags from music files rb supports, and have the parts of rb that read this data be able to have the info read, as an example when browsing the db, since it reads the info off the files ID3 or whatever tags the entries it finds have
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09:24:24CalcipherI noticed that while using the db, if you used voice box to create dir and file talk clips, the voice menu feature would accurately read out the artist name under the artist category, since its the same as the dir name the artist tracks are found in, all other information is read in the spelled out fashion if the option is enabled
09:26:23Calcipherallowing the inclusion of metadata in talk files would open all sorts of doors for expanding accesability features
09:28:14CalcipherI don't know how the system works so my suggestion be terribly flawed since I don't know if its possible to be implemented the way I am thinking, thats why I hope some bright and skilled devs could shine some light on my mystery
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09:42:41Calcipherif anyone has any ideas on my suggestion please let me know, I'll be afk so please leave a pm or something
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10:01:12linuxstbCalcipher: That's been talked about before, and there may even be a patch in flyspray that starts to implement it (IIRC, it generates the talk clips, but they can't be played yet)
10:06:47Calcipherwhoa, nice
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10:07:43Calcipherthanks for the information linuxstb
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12:08:13BigBambiCalcipher: By the way, the link to rbutil is in the manual
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12:50:10C30`Palanoidhi is buschel here? i wanna help out on the device disabling build tests. using a 4th gen grayscale ipod :)
12:52:10Horschtyou could probably try contacting Buschel on the forums via PM
12:52:21Buschelhi palanoid, yes i am here :o)
12:52:39Horschtor not :D
12:52:42C30`Palanoidlol
12:54:06Buschelyou could in fact help me with some information and maybe testing.
12:54:29C30`Palanoidive run battery benchmarks with both unofficial build 16150 and official 16170,and posted the result on the patch tracker
12:54:47Buschelyes, saw it. pretty good gain :)
12:55:13C30`Palanoidhehe
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12:55:30C30`Palanoidwhat info you need?
12:56:14Buschelcan you read out the register info out of "View i/o ports"? when using the patch? all the DEV_ stuff
12:58:34C30`Palanoidwhere can i find that info? is it in the ipod?
12:58:56BigBambiThe debug menu
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13:00:08Horschtso, Buschel. You are trying to improve battery life on ipods?
13:00:21Horschtall models, or only certain ones
13:00:24Buscheli already did ;-)
13:00:58Horschtnice.
13:01:12C30`PalanoidDEV_En: C2931977 ,DEV_EN2: 0000000,DEV_EN3: 0007003F,DEV_INIT1 0004000,DEV_INIT2: 00000000
13:01:16Buschelhorscht: in fact its about checking register of the PP-processor -- ipods use this use, but also H10 or Sansa's
13:01:48C30`PalanoidDEV_EN2: 00000000 sorry
13:02:10C30`Palanoidand DEV_INIT1: 00040000
13:02:14HorschtSo, I am looking on flyspray to find results :)
13:03:04Buschelpalanoid: can you build rockbox for yourself?
13:04:13C30`Palanoidknow nothing about it lol
13:04:32Buschelyou did use soap's builds?
13:04:32Horscht"Expect to see double digit percentage increase in battery life." nice.
13:04:48C30`Palanoidya the 16150M one
13:05:15C30`Palanoidusing it right now
13:05:20Buschelah, ok. then it'll be hard to check for further bits to disable...
13:06:54Horschtafter i've completely charged my 5th Gen Ipod, i'll give soaps build a whirl :)
13:07:02C30`Palanoidsorry :( i guess i didnt help much
13:07:45C30`Palanoidya go ahead! his build rocks
13:08:16Buschelpalanoid: of course you helped! you posted runtime results and you told me the default register settings (which show that only DEV_EN1 is of further interest)
13:10:03C30`Palanoidomg i read the value wrong. it should be C2831977 for DEV_EN1
13:10:13C30`Palanoidlmao
13:10:25Buscheleven better
13:11:02markunshadowcode: no sorry, I didn't find any free compiler either last time I looked.
13:11:36markunbut I believe the RK27** series is MIPS32 based which I think can be compiled with GCC>
13:18:14C30`Palanoidby the way buschel,do you and soap intend to make power saving builds for 3rd gen ipods?
13:18:54Buschelno, that's another (older) processor type
13:19:25C30`Palanoidic
13:19:28BigBambi1st - 3rd gen iPod already get better battery life than the original firmware
13:19:50C30`Palanoidoh! thanks for info
13:19:53shadowcodeHi all
13:19:53BigBambiThanks to reverse engineering by amiconn