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#rockbox log for 2008-01-28

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00:01:11kugeljhMikeS: which targets have headphone detection?
00:02:02linuxstbAll the ipods (I think), the Gigabeat, and (looking at its config file) the mrobe 100.
00:02:25rasherI think I saw mentioned that the 1st gen ipod doesn't
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00:04:19linuxstbkugel: There's a HAVE_HEADPHONE_DETECTION define you can look for.
00:04:20kugelthanks for the info
00:04:39kugelyea, I know, but I was too lazy to boot my vm
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00:06:47jhMikeSthe c200 and e200 should be able to have it as well
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00:07:39rasherNeat
00:07:59kugeljhMikeS: With "should be able" you mean, that they could have it, but it's not defined for them yet?
00:09:35jhMikeSright. the AS3514 has a HP detect interrupt
00:10:42jhMikeSthough I'm not sure if it functions quite the way it's needed to
00:10:43amiconnHeadphone detection isn't enabled for all ipods which support it either
00:11:18amiconnThe biggest problem is the 1st vs. 2nd Gen. 1st Gen has no heaphone detection, 2nd Gen does - but they run the same build
00:11:54*amiconn sees no real point in it, hence didn't bother yet
00:12:07amiconnThere are more important bugs to fix on PP5002...
00:12:41*rasher would love hp-detection on sansa
00:13:47*jhMikeS is out with pp5002 since he broke the connector for the HP socket and hold switch on his and they want $45-50 dollars for them which is ludicrous :\ gotta be able to do better than that price.
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00:15:52markunjhMikeS: who's "they"?
00:16:18jhMikeSseveral places that sell OEM replacements for it
00:16:40*jhMikeS doesn't recall the names
00:19:59jhMikeSguess that's ipodparts.com, ifixit.com, repidrepair.com
00:22:51*amiconn has a spare 2nd Gen without hdd
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02:22:35soapbuschel (for the logs) 177 DeviceDisable downloads last week.
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02:48:05darkslategreyhey i have a problem with mpegplayer
02:48:53darkslategreythe video displays at normal speed but the audio seems sped up. the video is also enlarged off the screen.
02:50:33darkslategreyanyone?
02:51:07linuxstbIs the audio encoded at 44.1KHz?
02:51:27linuxstbAnd is the video encoded at the same resolution as your player's LCD?
02:53:53darkslategreyoh
02:54:08darkslategreyi'll just....go....fix that...
02:54:12darkslategreywow, i feel dumb.
02:54:25linuxstbSee http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer
02:54:32darkslategreythxman
02:54:37linuxstbYou're welcome.
02:54:39darkslategreyi'll remember to rtfm next time
02:55:44darkslategreyquick question--what is screen res. for nano?
02:56:04linuxstb176x132
02:57:01darkslategreythxman
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04:02:29JdGordonanyone against conniting 8521?
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04:02:47JdGordonpersistable pitch setting
04:03:39LloreanI think that it's a little more complicated than necessary
04:03:52LloreanSpecifically, I don't think the setting needs to be in two places, with one saved and one not.
04:08:27JdGordonone isnt saved?
04:12:04JdGordonhmm... changing the pitch in the pitchscreen woon persist it? that should be fixed then... other than that?
04:12:21JdGordonmaybe the menu setting isnt needed at all
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04:54:54rockohi
04:55:01rockoI got a huge problem on the rockbox
04:55:15rockolately it says "rockbox media player"
04:55:19rockoand can't find the drivers
04:57:05scorche|shmiss the notice on the front page?
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05:26:11rockowhat notice
05:26:41krazykitthe one under the "project news" heading
05:27:25rockooh no
05:27:34rockomy ipod won't even connect to thecomputer anymore
05:27:39rockoit just keeps rebooting
05:27:57krazykitread the manual on how to dual-boot your ipod.
05:29:18rockooh with the regular ipod firmware
05:30:08rockooh wow, this isn't looking good
05:32:11rockoholy shit
05:32:15rockomy ipod just beeped
05:32:21rockoa lot of times
05:32:48rockoI had no idea the ipod beeped
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06:02:36duvnellusage question: if I wanted to browse the database, go to Artists and then select a particular artist.. I'd like that entire artist's tracks to replace the current playlist, is that possible? I know you can hold select and have it insert into the current playlist, but there isn't an option for it to replace the playlist. It would seem obvious enough just to hit "Play" on that artist and it do that.
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06:02:57duvnell.. same would go for anything else under the db
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06:14:06Lloreanduvnell: Does the "Play Next" option not show up on the same screen as "Insert"?
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06:41:58o0ace0oyow
06:42:08o0ace0oyow
06:42:21o0ace0oadad
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06:42:33o0ace0otesting testing
06:43:16o0ace0o!ping
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07:02:06FMA1394Does updating your ipod's firmware (specifically 5th gen Video) affect rockbox at all?
07:03:50homieloweFMA1394; You will have to re-install the rockbox bootloader.
07:04:05FMA1394Ah, I thought so. Thx.
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08:04:32o0ace0oyow
08:04:41o0ace0owhats the pros and cons of rockbox?
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08:06:56o0ace0oelow
08:06:59o0ace0ois anyone there?
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08:07:30advlaptop2019o0ace0o, have you read why rockbox page
08:07:38o0ace0onope
08:07:49o0ace0owhats the URL?
08:08:22advlaptop2019o0ace0o, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox
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08:12:28o0ace0ook thanks
08:14:06advlaptop2019o0ace0o, plus, if you have other question just wait.. the people here are in different time zones
08:14:07scorche|shjust coz scorche said i coudnt.....
08:14:08scorche|shgkjdfkgd;lfhg;ldfgds
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08:15:00Kick(#rockbox JdGordon :scorche|sh) by scorche|sh!n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche
08:15:08Mode"#rockbox -o scorche|sh " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
08:15:21GodEaterI thought that was only supposed to happen in -community ?
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08:16:03JdGordonscorche: you poo poo head
08:16:11scorche|shGodEater: well, he spammed as me...
08:16:42GodEaterah
08:17:01*GodEater tries to guess what sh is for
08:17:13scorche|shtake this to -community..
08:17:31o0ace0ohmmm
08:18:03o0ace0oi have a sansae250 if with the rockbox can it still play fm?
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08:19:29advlaptop2019o0ace0o, yes you will still have the fm radio
08:19:45o0ace0oow
08:20:55o0ace0oif i instal rockbox in my sansa e250 can i easily go back to the old program of my sansa?
08:21:13advlaptop2019yea.. but another question is do you have v1 or v2 of the e200 series
08:21:42o0ace0oi dnt know
08:21:54o0ace0oit only says e250
08:22:16o0ace0owhats the difference?
08:22:57GodEaterone works with rockbox, one doesn't
08:22:58advlaptop2019how old is it or what firmware version.. the v2s have different hardware
08:23:31o0ace0oi thinks its a v1
08:24:13o0ace0oi tried to look at the back of my sansa theres noh v2 writen
08:24:19o0ace0o*no
08:24:33o0ace0oand noh v1 written wither
08:24:36o0ace0o*no
08:24:57o0ace0oits only model:e250
08:24:58advlaptop2019check the firmware version that is on it for sure tho
08:25:44o0ace0ois it the one in the settings then info?
08:25:54advlaptop2019yes
08:26:18o0ace0oits version is 01.00.12A
08:26:29o0ace0obut iv recently reformated it
08:26:36o0ace0owith that version
08:26:42advlaptop2019good that is a v1
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08:26:56o0ace0othe original was something like1.11.000..... something
08:27:01o0ace0oow is it
08:27:35o0ace0oso can still easily go back to my old sansa program if iv instaled the rockbox?
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08:28:38o0ace0o....
08:28:39advlaptop2019yea.. if you read the manual, you can see it
08:28:59o0ace0oi left the manual in the states
08:29:02o0ace0ohehehe
08:30:14o0ace0oim a first timer in rockbox so what shoould i do to have it? whats the most compatible with my sansa e250 v1?
08:30:34o0ace0owhats the 1st thing i should do?
08:31:10o0ace0owill rockbox take up more memory?
08:31:28GodEaterthe first thing you should do is read the manual
08:31:56o0ace0owith the rockbox can i already use my mirco sd card to store vids and play it in my sansa?
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08:33:50advlaptop2019o0ace0o, no because the sansa videos are MOVs not MPEGs
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08:34:20woodensoulDoes anyone here own a Sansa and some IEMs?
08:34:52o0ace0oso whats the use of the mirco sd?
08:35:22o0ace0ois it only for storing mp3s
08:35:29woodensoulThe electrical noises are really annoying... do you experiences this as well? Is it the same if you use a microSD card?
08:35:47advlaptop2019o0ace0o, for any files
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08:37:31o0ace0oso with the rockbox it can play the movies stored in my mirco sd card?
08:37:42o0ace0o*can it
08:37:56o0ace0ovids
08:39:33advlaptop2019yea, you cant play the sansa mov files in rockbox tho
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08:41:59o0ace0orockbox is only for games and mp3s?
08:42:03o0ace0ois it?
08:42:13o0ace0ono videos
08:42:50advlaptop2019you can play mpeg/mpeg2 videos in rockbox
08:43:04GodEater<cough>readthemanual</cough>
08:43:18o0ace0ohahaha
08:43:26advlaptop2019o0ace0o, just read the manual it says all this
08:43:34o0ace0oits too long
08:43:38o0ace0ohmm
08:45:09o0ace0odoes rockbox have its converter to mpeg?or i have to convert it by myself?
08:45:24GodEaterok - really - READ THE MANUAL
08:45:34GodEateryou're required to have done so before asking questions in here
08:46:55o0ace0o:P
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08:58:22woodensoulWill rockbox work on my creative zen vision: M??? :P
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09:00:50scorche|shno
09:01:23woodensoulwas joking, i RTFM
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09:05:09o0ace0obefore instaling rockbox what mode shoul i chose MSC or MTS?
09:05:24woodensoullol
09:05:30woodensoulRTFM
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09:07:10zeeWhat is with the task FS #7773? Yesterday, I used the pitch screen and could not leave it with 'play' (as in many other screens). And found a patch in FS which has not been committed yet for some reason.
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09:12:29amiconnUrgh, list spam :(
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09:50:39zeeNow that many have arrived: can anybody comment on why FS #7773 isn't committed?
09:52:28GodEaterthe developer of the patch hasn't bugged people enough to do it ?
09:57:27zeeGodEater: seems so. And it slipped through in the "FS week." I think the change is very small and can be safely committed. But I'm not a developer and have of course no commit right.
09:57:49GodEatersame here
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09:59:37zeeI'll wait for another FS week then and hope it will get committed. Are there any plans for the next FS week by the way?
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10:10:00LinusNshouldn't we commit FS #8493?
10:12:37linuxstbI guess so...
10:13:06*GodEater would love to look at it but the tracker seems to have stopped speaking to him
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10:16:45Casainhohello :-)
10:17:10CasainhoI am looking for some admin to change the name of the page "RockboxPlayerV1" to "RockboxPlayerV0.1
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10:17:20Casainhocan someone do that?
10:17:40petursomehow I think this is the least of the problems you are facing
10:19:08LinusNCasainho: what is wrong with V1?
10:20:03CasainhoV1 is for another version... we decided that actual info on that page is not from V1 but from a V0.1
10:20:26CasainhoI also would like to hjave a sugestion, for a version name... V0.1 would be ok?
10:20:38LinusNi think that's a bad wikiname
10:20:53CasainhoIt's a version in hardware, with a dev board...
10:20:55LinusNcan't contain period
10:21:25Casainhomaybe V0_1?
10:21:30LinusNbesides, why can't it be v1, v2, v3 instead of 0.1, 0.2, 1.0?
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10:24:58LinusNCasainho: so you will create another page called V1?
10:25:21Casainhowell, others said that since this is a version in a dev board, it should not be V1
10:25:58LinusNhow silly
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10:26:26LinusNwhy not call it RockboxPlayerPrototype then?
10:26:55aantipopim about to buy a rockbox compatible player, cant spend a lot of money, tho. which would you recommend ?
10:26:58GodEateror just "RockboxPlayer" without a version number ?
10:27:09GodEatersince the wiki takes care of version history all on it's own
10:27:11linuxstbGodEater: That page is already taken
10:27:22GodEateroutrageous - who by? ;)
10:27:48linuxstbAn overview of the player. RockboxPlayerV1 is the detailed design page.
10:27:59GodEaterRockboxPlayerDesign then :)
10:28:02*linuxstb likes RockboxPlayerPrototype
10:28:15LinusNi renamed it to RockboxPlayerPrototype, and made it a child of RockboxPlayer
10:28:45CasainhoPortotype, very good idea!
10:28:48Casainhothanks! :-)
10:29:00linuxstbaantipop: The Sansa E200s are reasonable enough and can be bought cheaply - but make sure you get the older "version 1" model, the "version 2" has different internals doesn't work with Rockbox.
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10:29:58aantipoplinuxstb: how can i find out if its a v2 or v1 ?
10:33:54Lynx_Hi all! I have a question: Can i make the disk turn off when I have my iriver connected to a windows box via usb? I want this to make ich charge faster, and the 'safe disconnect' from windows does not seem to suffice
10:34:09Lynx_s/ich/it/
10:35:02markunLynx_: I don't think we have control over it, do you know LinusN?
10:35:32markunthat was meant as "LinusN, do you know?"
10:35:34LinusNwe don't
10:36:27LinusNbut there is a possibility that we can change it, but it requires writing to the I2C EEPROM connected to the Cypress chip that controls the USB-ATA connection
10:36:57Lynx_ok. from experience, will the iriver charge over a few hours from usb?
10:37:08LinusNwhich iriver?
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10:38:48LinusNwe can do the I2C trick on the H100 and H300 models, and on the PP models, we can do it once we have the USB stack running
10:39:23LinusNgtg, meeting
10:39:31Lynx_it's a h340
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10:46:13linuxstbaantipop: I think the v2s say so on the back, plus they also advertise "Audible" support. If you can check, they also run different firmware versions (I think it's v1.something for the version 1 hardware, and v3.something for the version 2 hardware).
10:50:14aantipopwill rockbox only run on linuxstb: thanks, but i just realized i dont want a mp3 player that displays pictures or videos or such fancy things
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10:50:30aantipopwhoops
10:51:12aantipopim reading about creative zen and sansa clip at the moment. but those dont run rockbox :/
10:51:30fmlI just noticed that there is a typo in the header of FS #8521 ("Perma_m_nent"). Could someone please correct it?
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11:00:40Lynx_hmm, i have the feeling the h300 does not really charge over usb at a useable rate. does anyone here ever charge theirs through usb?
11:01:29GodEaterI didn't even know the h300 *could* charge over usb, I thought it was like the h100 in that regard
11:02:30amiconnThe h300 does charge via usb, but of course it's much slower than charging via the dedicated charger
11:02:41RamlaI never tried charging by usb
11:03:03linuxstbaantipop: It's hard to find an mp3 player that doesn't do photos and videos as well...
11:03:29peturLynx_: boot rockbox, hold REC while inserting usb, ignore the fact that it also goes to recording
11:03:33amiconnThe archos player...
11:04:38GodEaterthat doesn't do the special rockbox(tm) video format ?
11:04:40aantipoplinuxstb: no it isnt
11:04:51peturLynx_: and I think you have to boot OF to set the charge mode correctly (disable 'hub' mode)
11:05:41amiconnGodEater: The player is charcell...
11:05:44Lynx_petur: ok, i'll try that, thanks
11:06:26Lynx_erm, how do i boot OF again? :)
11:06:46peturhold REC while pressing play
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11:06:56GodEateramiconn: you mean we've not got a port of aalib for it then? ;)
11:08:46markunaantipop: which player are you interested in?
11:09:12*amiconn googles aalib
11:09:29GodEateramiconn: it's an ascii art library
11:09:46aantipopmarkun: i would love a player i could run rockbox on. and i dont want to spend more than 70 €.
11:10:08aantipopand i dont want a used player. should have at least 1gb and usb 2
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11:10:52markunaantipop: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide
11:10:53GodEateryou'll struggle to find a player that's not been used before that supports Rockbox
11:11:05GodEaternone of our targets are in production any more
11:11:16aantipopoh
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11:21:30aantipopis someone working of a port to the v2 version of the sansa e200 series ?
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11:28:13markunaantipop: there is some discussion going on in here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14064.0
11:29:10markunBut when a rockbox port is done you will be able to view videos and photos on it. Of course, you can always delete the plugin.
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