| 00:00:02 | vorwarts | linuxstb: you know what i meant :) i am enough pissed at this stupid gadget to engage into terminology debates |
| 00:00:03 | rasher | I just think it's a useless option that should be on, unless there's some very significant cost |
| 00:00:09 | pixelma | does gather runtime data do something as long as you don't even have the database initialised? |
| 00:00:19 | BigBambi | vorwarts: No debate - rockbox is in no way built on linux |
| 00:00:22 | linuxstb | vorwarts: No, I honestly don't know what you mean... |
| 00:00:31 | BigBambi | It is ground up rockbox |
| 00:00:39 | scorche|w | vorwarts: this isnt a terminology debate.....rockbox isnt linux and we dont really make drivers |
| 00:00:54 | scorche|w | (for computers) |
| 00:00:55 | stripwax | vorwarts - linux is quite a specifically incorrect term to use for rockbox |
| 00:01:05 | BigBambi | Do you think he has got it yet? |
| 00:01:16 | scorche|w | i think 2 more people need to speak up :) |
| 00:01:28 | Bagder | rockbox is not linux |
| 00:01:29 | Bagder | ;-) |
| 00:01:31 | vorwarts | you make it possible for some toshiba gadgets to run off linux |
| 00:01:34 | Lars_G | linuxstb: I personally think it's more of either "I forgot" or a "Not until we fully QA" problem, but I'm a bystander |
| 00:01:39 | vorwarts | that's all i know |
| 00:01:44 | stripwax | vorwarts - we do? that's news to us ... |
| 00:01:50 | stripwax | given that rockbox is not linux |
| 00:02:07 | pixelma | you mean that they can be used as UMS device? |
| 00:02:15 | BigBambi | vorwarts: No rockbox devices run linux, given rockbox is not linux |
| 00:02:21 | vorwarts | so isn't KDE and 2 gazillion other projects |
| 00:02:27 | stripwax | what? |
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| 00:02:36 | vorwarts | that's not my point |
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| 00:02:40 | Lars_G | vorwarts: I think you're very very confused about rockbox |
| 00:02:40 | stripwax | what is your point |
| 00:02:42 | Bagder | cg: your server seemed to do good! |
| 00:02:43 | * | linuxstb remembers that the Gigabeat F ran Linux, but couldn't be used with desktop Linux.. |
| 00:02:50 | scorche|w | vorwarts: they could "run off linux" before...the firmware just didnt read plain mp3s |
| 00:03:01 | vorwarts | U series. toshiba gigabeat. will t ever be addressed |
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| 00:03:07 | carlosp | any hints when we will be able to tranfare data from pc in rockbox mode |
| 00:03:08 | carlosp | ? |
| 00:03:17 | BigBambi | vorwarts: If interested owners port rockbox, sure |
| 00:03:19 | scorche|w | vorwarts: your guess is as good as mine |
| 00:03:21 | Bagder | JdGordon's server did less good... |
| 00:03:24 | Lars_G | I wonder if there has been any case of portable linuxes using the code from rockbox as a source to make a linux driver. |
| 00:03:31 | BigBambi | vorwarts: There isn't a rockbox 'team' planning ports |
| 00:03:39 | rasher | Bagder: I think the server names are messed up? |
| 00:03:51 | BigBambi | carlosp: When it is done |
| 00:03:56 | scorche|w | Bagder: is it his OSX box? |
| 00:04:03 | stripwax | vorwarts - people do their own ports. if someone out there has a U series and wants to run rockbox on it, they'll do the work. |
| 00:04:04 | Bagder | rasher: why? JdGordon's is using a subname in lostlogic's domain |
| 00:04:09 | linuxstb | carlosp: It's the kind of thing that may happen tomorrow or may not happen for another year - it's impossible to predict when the technical breakthroughs will happen. |
| 00:04:19 | cg | Bagder: so it seems. still need to populate ccache cache for all ports |
| 00:04:19 | Bagder | scorche|w: no |
| 00:04:28 | vorwarts | stripwax: dev docs availabe on rockbox.org? |
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| 00:04:36 | Bagder | cg: yeps |
| 00:04:46 | markun | vorwarts: your can increase the chance of rockbox on your player by starting on some of the work: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort |
| 00:04:51 | rasher | Bagder: My server seems to have build an impossible amount of builds though |
| 00:05:12 | BigBambi | vorwarts: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DocsIndex#For_Developers |
| 00:05:14 | rasher | built* |
| 00:05:21 | crzyboyster | I was just thinking. It would be useful to create a page on the wiki with converted fonts for rockbox, wouldn't it? Of course, the submitters will ask the font creators for permission before posting them. |
| 00:05:30 | Lars_G | markun: if only DAPs could focus on a single chipset like pdas did onto arm |
| 00:05:31 | markun | vorwarts: I started the Gigabeat F port and it was quite a lot of work. There were many moments where we thought we couldn't do it. |
| 00:05:34 | Bagder | rasher: it did a lot of sh builds, so it's not a surprise it did many |
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| 00:05:48 | markun | Lars_G: why? |
| 00:06:03 | rasher | Bagder: Bootloaders too.. I was mighty confused |
| 00:06:07 | crzyboyster | I was just thinking. It would be useful to create a page on the wiki with converted fonts for rockbox, wouldn't it? Of course, the submitters will ask the font creators for permission before posting them. |
| 00:06:11 | Lars_G | markun: it'd ease reverse engineering... once the basics are broken there are less stuff to fight in each player |
| 00:06:14 | gevaerts | I think I'll give up for today. I can't get linked transfer descriptors working |
| 00:06:18 | Bagder | pdas didn't "focus on a single chipset" |
| 00:06:19 | BigBambi | crzyboyster: We heard the first time |
| 00:06:23 | markun | Lars_G: I think every DAP maker should decide for themselves which they think is the best hardware. |
| 00:06:47 | linuxstb | Lars_G: I would say most DAPs are ARM... |
| 00:06:47 | markun | and 'best' can be many things of course. |
| 00:06:52 | crzyboyster | Sorry, didn't show up on my IRC windows thing... |
| 00:07:01 | vorwarts | right now i would be happy to run this s*** through virtualbox... but not even this is working |
| 00:07:16 | scorche|w | crzyboyster: how many times do we have to say to check the logs if you think something didnt go through? |
| 00:07:28 | scorche|w | vorwarts: as has been said before, that is offtopic.. |
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| 00:07:36 | Bagder | vorwarts: you really should not buy stuff that doesn't do what you want... |
| 00:07:45 | linuxstb | ;) |
| 00:07:49 | BigBambi | Wise words |
| 00:07:56 | vorwarts | Bagder: it as offered :) |
| 00:08:19 | Bagder | then accept the real challenge and start the rockbox port! ;-) |
| 00:09:17 | * | linuxstb hands vorwarts a screwdriver |
| 00:09:24 | markun | vorwarts: you don't need to be a programmer. Just open up your player and post pictures. |
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| 00:10:48 | rasher | markun: no word from the translator.. annoying |
| 00:11:00 | vorwarts | we shall see. i am usually quite perseverant, but time is not on my side (have to work like a mule). ebay may have the answer for my ordeal :) heading on to the virtualbox channel. thank you all |
| 00:11:16 | crzyboyster | Sorry, won't happen again. What do you all think of such a wiki page? |
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| 00:11:55 | markun | vorwarts: good luck |
| 00:12:19 | vorwarts | thanks |
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| 00:15:23 | Lars_G | rasher: which translator |
| 00:15:24 | | Quit obo ("bye") |
| 00:15:55 | rasher | Lars_G: Someone who wanted to do an Arabic translation, and claimed to have actually finished it, but now he's gone AWOL |
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| 00:17:02 | Lars_G | Ah sorry can't help there |
| 00:17:45 | roxfan | http://forum.mp3store.pl/lofiversion/index.php?t14695.html a nice list |
| 00:18:32 | rasher | Crikey |
| 00:19:02 | scorche|w | very nice list.. |
| 00:19:15 | JdGordon|w | thats ben posted in the forums i think |
| 00:19:17 | JdGordon|w | been* |
| 00:19:29 | crzyboyster | If something is not translated in a lang file, should you remove all the untranslated phrases? |
| 00:19:30 | magenpie | the recording screen doesn't show time elapsed or size of file...what am i doing wrong? |
| 00:19:35 | scorche|w | worth copying to the wiki for posterity |
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| 00:20:42 | Bagder | JdGordon|w: did you notice those weird build errors on your host? |
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| 00:22:49 | JdGordon|w | havnt looked yet |
| 00:22:52 | JdGordon|w | added both? |
| 00:23:09 | Bagder | no, I started with the "simple" one |
| 00:23:20 | Bagder | ie not the OS X one |
| 00:23:43 | JdGordon|w | odd... wtf? that box should have no problems |
| 00:24:12 | JdGordon|w | ... unless |
| 00:24:52 | Bagder | it does |
| 00:24:57 | Bagder | ls -l /bin/sh |
| 00:24:57 | Bagder | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-09-09 15:52 /bin/sh -> dash |
| 00:25:10 | Bagder | but I have the cure |
| 00:25:17 | rasher | Didn't you fix that? |
| 00:25:29 | rasher | People really should stop assuming bash.. |
| 00:25:39 | Bagder | I did, but JdGordon has an older acbuild.pl |
| 00:25:52 | JdGordon|w | i gtrabbed the one off lostlogic's server |
| 00:25:52 | rasher | Ah |
| 00:26:01 | Bagder | cat acbuild.pl | sed 's/echo -e/printf/' |
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| 00:26:36 | rasher | or sed -i 's/echo -e/printf/' (assuming GNU sed) |
| 00:27:44 | Bagder | JdGordon|w: will you fix or shall I? |
| 00:27:52 | JdGordon|w | can you? im at work |
| 00:28:07 | JdGordon|w | ah bugger i have putty open |
| 00:28:19 | Bagder | I fixed it already |
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| 00:28:28 | JdGordon|w | :) |
| 00:28:30 | Bagder | server re-added |
| 00:28:38 | Bagder | now let's get another commit! |
| 00:28:52 | JdGordon|w | force a build... i wanna see how fast it is :) |
| 00:29:36 | | Quit ze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 00:29:52 | JdGordon|w | are there any scripts around to do every build to get ccache going? |
| 00:30:13 | Bagder | I don't think so |
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| 00:34:46 | rasher | Someone with a clue should fix those two warnings in cfft.c |
| 00:35:04 | JdGordon|w | they are gcc bugs though arnt they? |
| 00:35:14 | Bagder | the fix would need to #if for compiler version or similar |
| 00:35:39 | rasher | Confirmed bugs, or just "we believe this code is correct"? |
| 00:37:00 | Bagder | it's hard to see how the compiler is right on this |
| 00:37:53 | | Part idnar |
| 00:37:54 | Bagder | it is being typecast to the exact same type as in the proto |
| 00:38:00 | linuxstb | JdGordon|w: This might work - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/buildall.sh.txt |
| 00:38:20 | JdGordon|w | ta |
| 00:38:27 | * | JdGordon|w gets putty going again to find out |
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| 00:39:13 | rasher | Bagder: sounds odd indeed.. Maybe it should be reported then (since gcc people might actually care about this platform) |
| 00:39:34 | Bagder | true |
| 00:40:45 | linuxstb | JdGordon|w: Redownload that script if you've already grabbed it - I've just fixed a couple of errors... |
| 00:43:10 | JdGordon|w | nup, still no good |
| 00:43:58 | JdGordon|w | configure not found and no permission to make directories :( |
| 00:44:23 | JdGordon|w | oh, stupid wget |
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| 00:45:11 | JdGordon|w | and away it goes! |
| 00:45:13 | JdGordon|w | thanks |
| 00:45:40 | Bagder | I managed to silence the warning |
| 00:45:52 | linuxstb | Nicely? |
| 00:46:04 | Bagder | not really |
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| 00:46:16 | Bagder | by using *(const complex_t **) instead of (const complex_t *) |
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| 00:46:27 | linuxstb | Oh well, "nice" and libfaad don't go together anyway... |
| 00:47:05 | * | linuxstb has forgotton what a green build table looks like |
| 00:47:21 | * | linuxstb pokes the mrobe 500 people... |
| 00:47:26 | JdGordon|w | pretty boring iirc :p |
| 00:48:04 | linuxstb | Yes, a yellow stripe on the left will brighten it up. |
| 00:48:14 | rasher | Well, 5 of the warnings should be easy to silence |
| 00:48:33 | JdGordon|w | we can hide all of them |
| 00:49:00 | JdGordon|w | the thread.c one probably isnt really needed anyway |
| 00:49:11 | rasher | Hm? |
| 00:49:24 | JdGordon|w | thread.c:768:6: warning: #warning core_sleep not implemented, battery life will be decreased |
| 00:49:46 | rasher | Yes, that seems like a nice warning? |
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| 00:50:08 | JdGordon|w | meh, its unesaccery |
| 00:50:11 | rasher | The rest seem like they'll go away on their own, ish |
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| 00:55:15 | rasher | Hrm, that list on the polish forum doesn't have the Sansa e200v2s |
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| 00:57:24 | scorche|w | it doesnt have a lot of newer devices |
| 00:58:01 | linuxstb | We should really try and maintain something similar in our wiki. |
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| 00:58:08 | Bagder | yes |
| 00:58:20 | rasher | Ah, sounds like the guy who compiled the list has disappeared |
| 00:58:24 | scorche|w | [15:20] <scorche|w> worth copying to the wiki for posterity |
| 00:58:27 | * | scorche|w winks at linuxstb |
| 00:59:08 | Bagder | almost green now... |
| 00:59:24 | rasher | Best of all, it'll be consistent |
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| 00:59:43 | Bagder | I see I need to expand my "fix" |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:00 | Bagder | 4.2.1 has the same warning |
| 01:00:18 | JdGordon|w | ill fix the mrobe yellow tonight if there is wifi on the slopes.. otherwsie tomrow night |
| 01:00:18 | linuxstb | Bagder: Do you remember if there was a reason for putting (for example) #ifdef SIMULATOR inside .c files (around everything), rather than just excluding the .c file in SOURCES? |
| 01:00:57 | Bagder | only for the rare circumstances where we wanted a file in all situations |
| 01:01:11 | linuxstb | When would that be? |
| 01:01:19 | Bagder | I can't think of any right now |
| 01:01:38 | linuxstb | The issue is that the Mac OS X linker (or maybe ranlib) gives warnings about empty .o files. |
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| 01:03:31 | Bagder | so maybe when we fix that we learn why it was made this way! ;-P |
| 01:03:48 | linuxstb | ;) |
| 01:04:06 | Bagder | nothing beats doing the same mistakes twice ;-) |
| 01:04:14 | JdGordon|w | wait for a few green rows then add my mac to annoy people to get rid of the yellow again :p |
| 01:04:22 | linuxstb | Have there always been SOURCES files? |
| 01:04:31 | JdGordon|w | since the dawn of time! |
| 01:04:31 | Bagder | no |
| 01:05:08 | Bagder | they're actually quite new |
| 01:05:18 | linuxstb | Could that simply be the reason? |
| 01:05:30 | Bagder | yes it can indeed |
| 01:05:51 | Bagder | it seems I created them in oct 2004 |
| 01:05:56 | Bagder | SOURCES that is |
| 01:06:03 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:06:29 | amiconn | Does this warning-silenced code still work properly? |
| 01:06:35 | Nico_P | Bagder: I'm making a few corrections to HISTORY... what do you think of converting it to UTF8 at the same time? |
| 01:06:53 | Bagder | amiconn: I _think_ so, but I have no means of testing it |
| 01:06:57 | pixelma | some plugins also have #ifdef HAVE_BITMAP around them which isn't necessary anymore since SOURCES |
| 01:07:27 | amiconn | Bagder: Uh? It applies to the sim, so you could certainly test it, I'd think |
| 01:07:46 | JdGordon|w | quickscreen.c is also surounded by #ifdef HAVE_QUICKSCREEN instead of it being in sources |
| 01:07:56 | Bagder | first I'd have to hunt down a file using the format... |
| 01:08:11 | Bagder | but yeah, I could |
| 01:08:13 | * | linuxstb points Bagder to http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ |
| 01:08:20 | Bagder | aha |
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| 01:09:23 | Bagder | but now I need to go to sleep instead ;-) |
| 01:10:07 | Nico_P | Bagder: nothing against me converting HISTORY to utf8? |
| 01:10:12 | Bagder | nope |
| 01:10:23 | rasher | I suppose we'll know if aac breaks.. |
| 01:11:27 | JdGordon|w | linuxstb: thanks, that script worked great |
| 01:11:29 | * | linuxstb wonders why Monkey's audio gets a mention in HISTORY, but none of the other codecs (which all work better...) |
| 01:11:37 | Bagder | at least we're down to only 6 warning points now |
| 01:11:55 | Bagder | linuxstb: because I only did a quick rundown to get something to commit ;-) |
| 01:12:42 | Bagder | good to see 18 fine servers involved now |
| 01:12:54 | Nico_P | linuxstb: I was going to add WMA at least |
| 01:13:10 | Nico_P | I can add others too |
| 01:13:12 | * | Bagder fades away |
| 01:13:59 | linuxstb | Nico_P: I think you can remove Monkey's - we don't want to turn it into a copy of MajorChanges... |
| 01:14:48 | rasher | Bagder: you should poke lillebror |
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| 01:15:00 | Nico_P | linuxstb: makes sense... what about AA? |
| 01:15:09 | Bagder | rasher: that's zagor's machine |
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| 01:15:18 | rasher | Bagder: then poke him - same thing |
| 01:15:21 | Lars_G | Sigh sorry to ask this but what's the right wiki on video conversion for rockbox? the new format |
| 01:15:24 | Bagder | hehe |
| 01:15:25 | Lars_G | all I can find is the old stuff |
| 01:18:23 | linuxstb | PluginMpegplayer |
| 01:18:48 | pixelma | which is also linked from the manual btw. ;) |
| 01:18:52 | linuxstb | Nico_P: I would say remove that as well... |
| 01:20:20 | linuxstb | Nico_P: But it's hard to judge... I think HISTORY would be more suited to things like support of new targets, and very major developments such as the SWCODEC playback engine first playing sound etc. |
| 01:21:22 | rasher | MoB perhaps? |
| 01:21:48 | linuxstb | And maybe things happening around the project - such as the introduction of the forums, moving from sourceforge to flyspray. |
| 01:22:31 | saratoga | is anyone around who can change filespary? |
| 01:22:41 | saratoga | i'd really like to make it sort patches by date by default |
| 01:22:43 | rasher | linuxstb: getting nastygrams from whoeveritwas |
| 01:22:48 | saratoga | now they seem to show up in random order for me |
| 01:23:06 | Nico_P | linuxstb: the early parts have quite a lot of software items |
| 01:23:26 | linuxstb | Nico_P: I know, but the document would be huge if we kept up that amount of detail (and it would duplicate majorchanges) |
| 01:23:33 | Nico_P | true |
| 01:24:10 | JdGordon|w | do we really need HISTORY? |
| 01:24:15 | linuxstb | saratoga: I thought they were sorted by priority first, and then date? |
| 01:24:56 | linuxstb | JdGordon|w: I think it's a nice document - but maybe better in the wiki... |
| 01:25:39 | linuxstb | saratoga: s/priority/severity/ (I think...) |
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| 01:25:53 | Nico_P | IMHO MajorChanges should be in SVN and not in the wiki |
| 01:26:41 | linuxstb | Why? Often non-committers helpfully add items there that devs forget. |
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| 01:27:10 | JdGordon|w | 7min to compile all sims on my mac :) |
| 01:27:37 | scorche|w | feh...it takes that long just to buffer one movie for frontrow |
| 01:27:54 | JdGordon|w | haha yeah unfortunatly |
| 01:28:33 | scorche|w | why it needs to buffer in the first place is anyone's guess.. |
| 01:28:46 | * | JdGordon|w shoves scorche into -comm |
| 01:29:01 | scorche|w | thats my line :) |
| 01:31:36 | Nico_P | linuxstb: changing the file at the same time as we commit the feature could become a habit... reason is I feel the file belongs with the source rather than with the website |
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| 01:32:06 | linuxstb | Nico_P: I guess it could be a chapter/appendix in the manual... |
| 01:32:15 | Lars_G | thanks linuxstb |
| 01:32:29 | JdGordon|w | Nico_P: we forget FILES enough... you really think we'll remeber major changes also? |
| 01:33:56 | saratoga | linuxstb: I don't think they are |
| 01:34:03 | saratoga | the number 2 entry has a severity of "low" |
| 01:34:16 | linuxstb | saratoga: What URL? |
| 01:34:42 | saratoga | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2598 |
| 01:34:55 | linuxstb | No, I mean of the list you are viewing. |
| 01:35:12 | saratoga | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=4 |
| 01:35:49 | linuxstb | Yes, all patches from #2 onwards are severity low (afaics) |
| 01:36:00 | linuxstb | #1 is medium, which is why it's first. |
| 01:36:13 | linuxstb | They are then in date order (oldest first). |
| 01:36:33 | saratoga | ah I see |
| 01:36:45 | saratoga | well then i guess i'm asking if we can put them in Newest First order |
| 01:37:09 | linuxstb | I wouldn't argue - the first thing I always do is sort them by date. |
| 01:37:39 | linuxstb | Or you could just bookmark http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index/proj1?type=4&order=dateopened&sort=desc&order2=&sort2= |
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| 01:39:19 | Nico_P | JdGordon|w: it would become a habit I guess |
| 01:39:45 | Nico_P | I do admit that I *always* forget FILES |
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| 01:40:30 | PaulJam_ | the committers also often forget to update the manual :P |
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| 01:41:26 | Nico_P | haha :) Now I have no excuse since I've gotten a bit more familiar with latex for school |
| 01:41:42 | Nico_P | AA still isn't mentioned in the manual AFAIK |
| 01:41:47 | Alonea | so on the sansa 200 series using microsdhc, it has worked so far yes? Do you think higher capacities such as the 16gb and upcoming 32gb will work as well? Whats the highest capacity that has been tested? |
| 01:41:48 | soap | yes, one should not mess around at school without using latex. |
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| 01:43:35 | pixelma | Nico_P: yes, the manual is missing quite lot "new" features... |
| 01:45:41 | pixelma | in meinem PDM-Ordner gibt's 22 Dateien in 7464 Ordners |
| 01:45:44 | pixelma | *Ordnern |
| 01:45:52 | pixelma | damn |
| 01:46:02 | pixelma | wrong tab |
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| 01:46:34 | bughunter2 | :/ |
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| 01:48:09 | rasher | Alonea: I think 8GB is the largest that's been tested, but afaik there's no reason 16 and 32 shouldn't work |
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| 01:48:30 | rasher | Except for their disturbing failure to exist |
| 01:48:45 | Alonea | rasher: lol. indeed. waiting for a 32 for my smartphone |
| 01:49:01 | hypercool | are we discussing sdd by any chance? |
| 01:49:07 | hypercool | ssd |
| 01:49:28 | scorche|w | o |
| 01:49:29 | scorche|w | no |
| 01:50:19 | * | linuxstb points hypercool to http://www.rockbox.org/irc/reader.pl |
| 01:51:31 | tessarakt | hmm ... |
| 01:51:50 | tessarakt | the /doc dir has quite un-generic contents, right? |
| 01:51:53 | hypercool | oh hay thanks |
| 01:52:20 | linuxstb | tessarakt: Just out of date contents... |
| 01:52:27 | tessarakt | yeah |
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| 01:52:43 | tessarakt | so the up-to-date contents are in the heads of the developers? |
| 01:53:43 | rasher | tessarakt: that's often outdated or inaccurate as well. Trust the source |
| 01:53:50 | tessarakt | *g* |
| 01:53:52 | hypercool | I'm here because i'm having trouble getting my 4G ipod to update its database. it does have harddrive issues, but i know for a fact that it can correctly mount/read/write etc. I'm actually listening to music on it now via the file browser, any ideas why the database is stuck at 0 found? |
| 01:54:00 | tessarakt | "Use the source, Luke" |
| 01:55:56 | hypercool | is there perhaps a way to make the database on my machine and just copy it to ./rockbox? |
| 01:56:08 | hypercool | with the simulator or something perhaps? |
| 01:56:29 | linuxstb | hypercool: Are you using Linux/ |
| 01:56:30 | linuxstb | ? |
| 01:56:38 | hypercool | not at the moment |
| 01:56:54 | hypercool | i'm dual boot gutsy and vista |
| 01:57:01 | rasher | There used to be a db-creation-tool, but it doesn't compile now |
| 01:57:20 | hypercool | well that sucks |
| 01:57:33 | linuxstb | I don't think it ever worked anyway - it was more a proof of concept that compiled but was lacking a working main() function... |
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| 01:58:07 | linuxstb | But yes, you could probably use the sim if you sym-linked your ipod's disk to the place the sim looks for music. |
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| 01:59:06 | hypercool | i'll try it |
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| 02:00:20 | amiconn | linuxstb: The symlink probably won't work, as the path is still different |
| 02:01:14 | PaulJam_ | would just copying the contents of the harddrive to the achos dir of the sim work? |
| 02:01:16 | amiconn | That is, unless you make a symlink *replacing the archos/ sub-dir of the simulator build. That'd require to install the sim's .rockbox folder on the target |
| 02:01:40 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes, that's what I meant. |
| 02:01:43 | rasher | Or just having the music in a subdir of archos/ |
| 02:01:48 | amiconn | Hmm, and it also only works if the sim has the same endianess as the target |
| 02:02:02 | rasher | amiconn: I'm pretty sure the db is endian-agnostic |
| 02:02:04 | linuxstb | I'm not sure if that's true - didn't Slasheri add endian-conversion? |
| 02:02:30 | linuxstb | (specifically to support PC-side generation IIRC) |
| 02:02:39 | amiconn | rasher: Yeah, that would work too. I never think of it as I'm not a fried of unnecessary folder levels |
| 02:03:06 | amiconn | For me, it would work when adding ~10 symlinks |
| 02:03:18 | rasher | amiconn: depends what you mean by unnecessary - I'd like to keep videos and music apart for example |
| 02:03:39 | rasher | And text files etc. |
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| 02:06:32 | amiconn | Yeah, me too, but music is still the main purpose of a dap, and so my music category (coarse genre) folder are at the top level |
| 02:06:56 | amiconn | That's especially helpful since 'follow playlist' is still broken |
| 02:07:06 | amiconn | folderS |
| 02:08:30 | PaulJam_ | follow playlist is broken? |
| 02:08:42 | amiconn | yes |
| 02:09:02 | amiconn | It only works when you switch to the browser while playing, but not when the playlist ends |
| 02:09:25 | PaulJam_ | ah that |
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| 02:13:25 | linuxstb | rasher: Was it you who was investigating the final GPLv2 version of espeak? |
| 02:14:23 | rasher | linuxstb: It was. But then I ran into a legal conundrum. I was moving modifications back to the last gplv2 version, and I figured those modifications were probably gplv3 as well. So that's probably no good |
| 02:14:47 | linuxstb | Modifications made by whom? |
| 02:15:17 | rasher | But... whoever it was that posted the original patch. |
| 02:15:30 | rasher | But won't those be a derivative work of the gplv3 code? |
| 02:15:42 | rasher | I probably wouldn't have gotten anywhere anyway |
| 02:16:10 | linuxstb | Possibly, but I'm sure Toni is contactable. |
| 02:17:47 | rasher | I'm afraid I've removed it actually, but really, I hadn't done much useful |
| 02:20:25 | linuxstb | No problem, I was just playing with the "voice aid" feature on my nokia phone and it made me wonder if there was any progress with espeak... |
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| 02:22:11 | linuxstb | It seems that using the pre-GPLv3 version is the only option - if the author was prepared to revert back to GPLv2 I guess he would have offered by now, and there doesn't seem any desire to make Rockbox GPLv3... |
| 02:22:39 | rasher | Indeed, on all accounts |
| 02:23:47 | * | amiconn would like to see rockbox going gpl v3 asap |
| 02:24:08 | * | linuxstb too |
| 02:25:00 | rasher | I think I've said all I ever need to (and more!), on that subject. |
| 02:25:23 | linuxstb | Was anyone else pro-v3 apart from amiconn and me? |
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