| 00:00:19 | gevaerts | rasher: I'm beginning to suspect that this is actually another symptom of the same problem that prevents high speed from working |
| 00:01:03 | rasher | gevaerts: Yikes |
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| 00:02:39 | gevaerts | rasher: it can't be incomplete transfers, since we use 64 byte packets and the problem we see happens every 32 bytes |
| 00:02:55 | rasher | That sounds reasonable enough |
| 00:03:07 | rasher | Not that I have any idea how USB works, but yes |
| 00:03:09 | gevaerts | That means it happens between the wire and our side of the controller |
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| 00:03:29 | rasher | So some sort of incorrect controller setup or what? |
| 00:03:46 | gevaerts | yes |
| 00:07:40 | gevaerts | Just a wild idea : maybe RAM access is too slow ? Is that clocked proportionally to the CPU clock ? |
| 00:08:15 | JdGordon|w | if it is.. calling cpu_boost() before you start the usb stuff might fix it |
| 00:08:53 | rasher | IN fact, manually boosting (through the debug screen) should fix it as well in that case? |
| 00:09:02 | JdGordon|w | yes |
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| 00:11:16 | gevaerts | No, that's not it. |
| 00:11:30 | JdGordon|w | :( |
| 00:11:43 | gevaerts | It would have been an easy solution |
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| 00:12:22 | rasher | Actually I'm completely failing to mount the thing when running at 80mhz |
| 00:12:41 | rasher | I get loads of usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110 |
| 00:12:50 | amiconn | gevaerts: How does the controller communicate with the cpu and ram? |
| 00:13:02 | gevaerts | rasher: is it plugged in properly ? |
| 00:13:03 | amiconn | Btw, 32 byte is the cache line length iirc |
| 00:13:19 | rasher | gevaerts: Pretty sure it is, yes |
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| 00:14:35 | gevaerts | amiconn: the controller knows real addresses, so it should read/write directly to RAM. |
| 00:15:19 | amiconn | Okay, so the controller does dma. But the ata transfers go through the cpu. |
| 00:16:04 | amiconn | And writing to the usb disk means the controller writes to ram, and the cpu reads it |
| 00:16:11 | amiconn | hmmm |
| 00:16:18 | gevaerts | amiconn: yes, but ata shouldn't matter. I checked the data before it goes to disk |
| 00:16:28 | gevaerts | amiconn: so it might be a cache issue after all |
| 00:17:32 | gevaerts | but it shouldn't be. All accesses go through UNCACHED_ADDR |
| 00:18:15 | amiconn | We can't be 100% sure about UNCACHED_ADDR. At least there could be still some write buffer active somewhere |
| 00:18:44 | amiconn | But I'd expect a write buffer to cause problems when sending data via usb (i.e. reading from pc) that in the other direction |
| 00:19:06 | gevaerts | The corruption we're seeing is a bit too regular IMO for that to be the problem |
| 00:19:37 | barrywardell | putting the data structures into iram would test if it's a cache problem, wouldn't it? |
| 00:20:13 | gevaerts | How much iram can we use for it ? |
| 00:20:28 | rasher | gevaerts: any idea why the transfer seems to get cut off at 77 bytes (?!) |
| 00:20:46 | gevaerts | rasher: 77 bytes ? I haven't seen that yet |
| 00:20:48 | rasher | At least that's what I got at http://pastebin.ca/896483 if I can count |
| 00:21:41 | amiconn | 0x57 == 87 |
| 00:21:50 | rasher | I was about to say.. |
| 00:22:03 | linuxstb_ | gevaerts: You should be able to use the 48KB of IRAM reserved for codecs/plugins. |
| 00:22:09 | rasher | Not that 87 makes any more sense |
| 00:22:32 | gevaerts | linuxstb_: how do I do this ? |
| 00:23:01 | rasher | Didn't Zagor try to use IRAM already? |
| 00:24:38 | amiconn | Depending on how much iram is needed, the test would probably not need special magic |
| 00:24:39 | rasher | http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20071116#23:07:01 |
| 00:24:55 | rasher | Though I suppose he might have had other bugs interfering |
| 00:25:17 | linuxstb_ | gevaerts: As amiconn said, it depends how much IRAM you need? |
| 00:25:50 | amiconn | I mean not using special tricks, but simply allocating a buffer in iram |
| 00:26:34 | gevaerts | linuxstb_: I'd need at least 32k to do a "real" test. 16k will work. |
| 00:27:18 | gevaerts | rasher: I read that as pure perfomance, as in speed. That |
| 00:27:30 | amiconn | hmm |
| 00:27:37 | rasher | gevaerts: You're right, I'm confused |
| 00:27:38 | gevaerts | is not really what we're looking at now. |
| 00:28:00 | amiconn | 8KB iram should be available on all PP targets in the core without special measures |
| 00:28:21 | gevaerts | amiconn: OK, let's start with that. How do I access it ? |
| 00:28:40 | amiconn | Just include IBSS_ATTR in your buffer declaration |
| 00:29:59 | amiconn | You can check the .map file to see how much iram is left for your target |
| 00:30:40 | asdrubal | when I search for rockbox compatable ipods on ebay, what should I search for? |
| 00:30:48 | barrywardell | you have to be careful with IBSS_ATTR since it zeroes all buffers on rockbox startup |
| 00:31:03 | amiconn | <builddir>/apps/rockbox.map -> search for "stackend = ." and check the address in front of that |
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| 00:31:07 | barrywardell | that was a problem austriancoder had while he was working on USB |
| 00:31:26 | amiconn | *all* bss space is zeroed at rockbox startup |
| 00:31:29 | Slasheri | hmm, there are some weird spurios butten events from remote control in bootloader for a few seconds after plugging in the remote |
| 00:31:38 | Slasheri | then those events gone |
| 00:31:52 | asdrubal | when I search for rockbox compatable ipods on ebay, what should I search for? |
| 00:31:52 | amiconn | Not only ibss. That's something gcc expects - it puts zero initialised data into bss by default |
| 00:32:14 | gevaerts | amiconn: It compiles with 8192, so I'll try that. I'll have to tell the linux kernel to lower its limit though |
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| 00:33:05 | barrywardell | yeah, and that caused problems for austriancoder because he used IBSS_ATTR for all the descriptors and they ended up getting zeroed |
| 00:33:46 | amiconn | If you checked the address I told you, you can calculate how much iram is left (for the core). There are 96KB of IRAM on all PP502x chips (technically the PP5022 and 5024 have 128KB, but we don't handle that yet), split evenly between core and plugins/codecs |
| 00:33:53 | asdrubal | COuld someone help me with looking for Ipods on Ebay? I don't know what to search for. |
| 00:34:06 | amiconn | So the core has 48KB of iram available, hence the end address must be <= 0x4000c000 |
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| 00:35:26 | rasher | asdrubal: Check the BuyersGuide wiki - basically you want anything that is not a Classic iirc |
| 00:35:41 | pixelma | or the frontpage ;) |
| 00:35:44 | amiconn | And neither a Nano 2nd gen or 3rd gen |
| 00:35:53 | rasher | amiconn: good catch |
| 00:36:06 | soap | or Touch |
| 00:36:18 | asdrubal | rasher: so any ipod video will work? |
| 00:36:39 | rasher | asdrubal: As long as it's correctly labelled, yes |
| 00:36:47 | asdrubal | what do you mean correctly labeled |
| 00:36:54 | linuxstb_ | asdrubal: Try "ipod 5th generation" |
| 00:37:30 | rasher | asdrubal: If the seller has not written the wrong name, but it's unlikely I'd say |
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| 00:39:32 | Horscht | especially on the german ebay I have found several "ipod classic" named "ipod video" |
| 00:40:11 | asdrubal | Rasher: I don't know about buying ipods on Ebay... their batteries are more than likely drained |
| 00:40:17 | asdrubal | that's why people sell them on ebay |
| 00:40:44 | Horscht | I bouht one, 3 weeks ago, > 1 year old, battery as good as new |
| 00:41:29 | asdrubal | considering that rockbox doesn't do xvid/divx/h264 I guess I don't need ipod video |
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| 00:41:41 | Horscht | all you have to do, is make sure that it's an ipod video, not an ipod classic, touch, or nano 2nd or 3rd gen |
| 00:41:55 | Horscht | and that the condition is good |
| 00:42:08 | asdrubal | Horscht, how much did you pay? |
| 00:42:22 | Horscht | 199€ for a 80GB model |
| 00:42:47 | Horscht | i only bought it because it was a "buy now" |
| 00:43:02 | kfazz | how do i use sansapatcher to install a custom bootloader.bin file? |
| 00:43:06 | Horscht | I don't usualy do auctions... |
| 00:43:07 | asdrubal | holy crap that's alot of dough |
| 00:43:38 | Horscht | well, classic 80GB is also 250€+ |
| 00:44:08 | asdrubal | I want a sansa c240... and then get a 32GB micro SD when they get cheap in a couple years :) |
| 00:44:10 | Horscht | so i rather bought a video 80GB for slightly less at a very good condition |
| 00:44:42 | kfazz | nvm figured it out. |
| 00:44:51 | linuxstb_ | kfazz: "sansapatcher -a bootloader.mi4" |
| 00:45:18 | kfazz | i did ./sansapatcher -bl bootloader.bin |
| 00:45:26 | kfazz | should i have used the mi4? |
| 00:46:10 | linuxstb_ | bl is for the Sansa bootloader. |
| 00:46:28 | linuxstb_ | Not the Rockbox one. |
| 00:46:34 | kfazz | oops : ) |
| 00:46:53 | kfazz | oh well, it's my test sansa anyways |
| 00:47:48 | kfazz | so the bootloader build left me with bootloader.bin and bootloader.elf |
| 00:48:00 | kfazz | whre do i find/create the mi4? |
| 00:48:02 | linuxstb_ | No "PP5022.mi4" ? |
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| 00:48:17 | kfazz | nope |
| 00:48:35 | linuxstb_ | That should be created in your bootloader build directory. |
| 00:48:46 | linuxstb_ | (not inside bootloader/) |
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| 00:49:07 | kfazz | ah, just saw it |
| 00:49:41 | kfazz | should i try writing that using -a even though i alredy wrote the .bin using -bl ? |
| 00:49:44 | linuxstb_ | You should restore the OF's bootloader, otherwise you won't have recovery mode. |
| 00:49:54 | kfazz | ouch |
| 00:50:04 | kfazz | good thing i didn't unplug it yet |
| 00:50:18 | linuxstb_ | In fact, I'm not even sure it will boot OK as it is now... |
| 00:53:26 | kfazz | am i correct in thinking i overwrote the i2c rom and need to recover with e200tool? |
| 00:56:04 | gevaerts | It doesn't work with IRAM. I now set it up to use 8k, which works as long as I don't put the IBSS_ATTR in. |
| 00:56:10 | kfazz | ha it boots! |
| 00:56:35 | kfazz | i did ./sansapatcher -bl i2c-e280.bin |
| 00:57:26 | kfazz | ... and now it doesnt. lol |
| 00:58:01 | kfazz | and now it does again.. odd |
| 00:59:08 | kfazz | i built the bootloader with the latest usb patch on svn, and defined HAVE_MULTIVOLUME and HAVE_HOTSWAP for bootloader build |
| 00:59:28 | kfazz | compiles fine, boots of and rockbox |
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| 01:00:41 | gevaerts | kfazz: be careful with that usb patch. Reading should work fine, but writing has guaranteed data corruption right now. |
| 01:00:52 | kfazz | yeah, alrady reformatted once today |
| 01:01:58 | gevaerts | However, the sd support seems to work, so if you limit yourself to testing on that, the risk should be low. |
| 01:02:21 | kfazz | no sd card |
| 01:02:28 | linuxstb_ | kfazz: No, you shouldn't be writing the i2c ROM, it's the BL_SD_boardSupportSD.rom file |
| 01:03:21 | kfazz | from reading the e200tool page it appeared that that has been superseeded in newer versions of e200tool? |
| 01:03:33 | kfazz | i could be reading the page wrong |
| 01:04:05 | kfazz | i didn't end up using e200tool but it boots now |
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| 01:12:02 | crzyboyster | Can some expert twiki formatter help me out? I am working on this page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UserConvertedFonts and where you see the "Name:" field in the table is where I want there to to be a "mini table", like a table inside that column in that table. I want to make different rows just in that column such as "Author:" Help? |
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| 01:13:39 | barrywardell | gevaerts: are you saying that usb doesn't work at all when you use IBSS_ATTR? |
| 01:15:35 | gevaerts | barrywardell: It does work |
| 01:16:27 | barrywardell | gevaerts: ah, ok. I must have misunderstood your comment |
| 01:16:41 | gevaerts | barrywardell: no. I just pressed enter too soon... |
| 01:17:26 | gevaerts | It does work a bit, but it seems that outgoing transfers from IRAM don't work. I didn't look in too much detail, because I strongly doubt that we need IRAM to get it to work |
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| 01:18:54 | gevaerts | After all, for UMS you really need 128k of buffer space to be compatible with 'normal' OS settings, and I don't think the OF allocates all its IRAM to usb |
| 01:18:59 | barrywardell | o, i see |
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| 01:20:52 | amiconn | gevaerts: Very true... although I wonder how the hardware usb-ata bridges handle that. Do they really have to have 128KB internal buffer ram? |
| 01:20:58 | * | rasher summons MrH |
| 01:20:59 | amiconn | (at least) |
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| 01:22:46 | gevaerts | amiconn: That's what linux uses as a default maximum transfer size, although I found somewhere that windows only uses 64k. |
| 01:24:24 | gevaerts | I don't think it is possible to send transfers to disk/flash as they come in without causing data corruption if anything at all goes wrong |
| 01:25:06 | gevaerts | although I might be wrong there |
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| 01:26:01 | gevaerts | Anyway, with the controller we are using, the entire transfer has to be buffered. |
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| 01:41:58 | crzyboyster | Is there a way to get rid of all the borders on a wiki page? |
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| 01:43:41 | krazykit | i'm not sure what boarders you're talking about, but i doubt it, as they're likely part of the ro |
| 01:43:53 | krazykit | geez. |
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| 01:46:28 | crzyboyster | And to merge the entire left column of a table say on this page > http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UserConvertedFonts |
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| 01:49:04 | madman91 | hey guys |
| 01:50:17 | Soul-Burn | my iPod battery died after 10 minutes of use with rockbox + 3 hrs being shut down. what gives? |
| 01:51:11 | Soul-Burn | fuck. it doesn't load |
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| 01:51:17 | Soul-Burn | charge* |
| 01:52:35 | Soul-Burn | ok panic mode |
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| 01:52:52 | madman91 | does the new 6th generation ipod have encrypted firmware? or is it just the new hardware that has slowed rockbox development? |
| 01:53:05 | scorche | both |
| 01:53:20 | scorche | Soul-Burn: did you try and reset it? |
| 01:53:44 | madman91 | so, it has new hardware, and it has encrypted firmware.... so that could take a while :) hehe |
| 01:54:05 | scorche | well, nothing is going to happen if no one is working on it ;) |
| 01:54:13 | BigBambi | and the lack of people working on it that we know of |
| 01:54:23 | Soul-Burn | tried the standard reset mode |
| 01:54:28 | Soul-Burn | select+menu |
| 01:54:43 | Soul-Burn | phew |
| 01:54:52 | Soul-Burn | after 30 seconds it loads |
| 01:55:02 | Soul-Burn | and now it seems to have battery |
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| 01:55:15 | scorche | that |
| 01:55:17 | scorche | is good |
| 01:55:18 | scorche | but could |
| 01:55:21 | scorche | you not |
| 01:55:23 | scorche | type like this? |
| 01:55:46 | scorche | ;) |
| 01:55:54 | Soul-Burn | I write when the ideas hit my brain :-P I think in short bursts |
| 01:56:21 | BigBambi | Please try to engage brain for a slightly longer period before hitting enter then |
| 01:56:27 | BigBambi | It is rather annoying to read :) |
| 01:56:32 | scorche | well, gather up those bursts before you send them our way please |
| 01:56:35 | pixelma | you don't need to hit enter each time, just collect a few thought ;) |
| 01:56:48 | Soul-Burn | i'll buffer them for like 10 seconds or until buffer fills up |
| 01:57:25 | BigBambi | Whatever it takes to replace the enter key with punctuation |
| 01:57:34 | Soul-Burn | so the case was this: had full charge. played around for like 15 minutes, charge still high. Shut it down (long Play) and after 3 hrs it won't load -> gave a "battery dead" symbol |
| 01:57:43 | madman91 | char *scorche[sizeof(scorche.buffer)]; |
| 01:57:56 | madman91 | :-) |
| 01:58:00 | scorche | pfft...not my buffer :) |
| 01:58:35 | Soul-Burn | at this situation, it won't charge from usb brick or PC. resetting worked (but as usual after a scary 30 seconds) |
| 01:58:51 | scorche | it will charge, but it might not be apparent |
| 01:58:59 | madman91 | g2g guys :) nice talking |
| 01:59:06 | Soul-Burn | after reset, battery was full |
| 01:59:08 | * | madman91 detaches |
| 01:59:39 | gevaerts | I just compared the main USB related registers for us and manufacturer mode, and I didn't see anything significant |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:04 | Soul-Burn | question: is there a soft shut down feature like in the original ipod or do I only have full shut down + full load? |
| 02:00:23 | scorche | there is no sleep mode |
| 02:00:37 | scorche | and when the device, it isnt necessarily "full-load" |
| 02:00:52 | scorche | s/device/device is running |
| 02:01:28 | Soul-Burn | is there planned support for sleep mode? |
| 02:01:48 | BigBambi | If someone writes it, sure |
| 02:02:01 | Soul-Burn | "hint hint"? |
| 02:02:03 | BigBambi | Individual developers work on what they want to |
| 02:02:17 | | Part pixelma |
| 02:02:20 | BigBambi | Soul-Burn: That won't work - if you really want something write it |
| 02:02:43 | Soul-Burn | will do :) |
| 02:02:57 | BigBambi | (That is if there isn't a dev interested) |
| 02:08:30 | gevaerts | Some good news : reducing the packet size to 16 bytes works (It didn't work earlier, I probably did something wrong). I just did a badblocks -w for 1MB, and it reported no errors. |
| 02:09:00 | gevaerts | It is slower though. I'll test if I can use 64 bytes for read, and 16 bytes for write |
| 02:10:13 | rasher | gevaerts: \o/ |
| 02:11:26 | gevaerts | I'll be confident and use this to install the new binary... |
| 02:12:45 | BigBambi | top work :) |
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| 02:15:16 | gevaerts | 64 bytes for read and 16 bytes for write fails, but it did boot a rockbox binary that was uploaded over a rockbox usb connection |
| 02:18:34 | gevaerts | I updated the patch. |
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| 02:24:44 | gevaerts | Now uploading some mp3s over it. |
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| 02:28:03 | rasher | gevaerts: What kind of speed do you get? |
| 02:30:25 | gevaerts | rasher: it doesn't seem too bad. Up to now it copied about 100MB in 5 minutes. That includes a few resets |
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| 02:32:09 | rasher | Slow but far from slow enough to be useless |
| 02:32:20 | kfazz | i uninstalled the rb bootloader using sansapatcher and now the of won't boot but rockbox still does... |
| 02:35:44 | gevaerts | It's still going at about the same speed, just over 300kb/s |
| 02:36:42 | kfazz | instead of going to recovery mode it says hold switch on shutting down... |
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| 02:48:13 | kfazz | i can boot rockbox and manufacturer mode, but not of or recovery mode. ideas? |
| 02:48:25 | Wolfman928 | im having truble compileing rock box it keeps on returning an error |
| 02:48:59 | kfazz | rec button works in rb, but it acts like i'm not pressing it and goes to rb bootloader |
| 02:49:18 | kfazz | (when i try to get into recovery mode, that is) |
| 02:49:30 | gevaerts | kfazz: I'd say you need to reinstall the original bootloader using e200tool |
| 02:50:53 | kfazz | where can i find the original bootlaoder? i tried using e200tool init; e200tool i2cprogram i2c-e280.bin . but still nothing |
| 02:52:19 | gevaerts | kfazz: Try http://files.zefie.com/PMP/sansa/e200/v1/firmware/ |
| 02:52:37 | Wolfman928 | im trying to compile rockbox with cygwin but it keeps on returning an erorr |
| 02:52:40 | kfazz | thanks |
| 02:52:52 | Wolfman928 | any help? |
| 02:53:01 | hcs | Wolfman928: what error? |
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| 02:54:29 | Wolfman928 | hcs:a "line 10: s'r\r': command not found" |
| 02:55:02 | J3TC- | FS #8457 - lists using viewports <--- is this patch applicable? |
| 02:55:08 | J3TC- | I keep getting an error during compile |
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| 02:55:47 | Wolfman928 | it also says that line 13 15 and 17 |
| 02:55:54 | hcs | Wolfman928: I'm not too familiar with the cygwin environment, but what exactly are you running that gives those errors? |
| 02:56:38 | Wolfman928 | command "rockbox-20080208/build" |
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| 02:57:08 | Wolfman928 | then"../tools/configure |
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| 02:58:27 | Wolfman928 | is there any other compile way for windows |
| 02:58:36 | Wolfman928 | im kida new at this |
| 02:58:43 | ctaylorr | Hi. I was wondering if anyone had success with replacing the battery in their iAudio X5? The battery in mine has finally gotten to a pretty bad state. |
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| 02:59:08 | Wolfman928 | im kinda new at this |
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| 03:00:41 | hcs | you could use VMware to run a Linux build environment |
| 03:00:45 | hcs | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform |
| 03:01:41 | hcs | but I'm still confused by your cygwin errors, you might try reading over the directions carefully again to see if you missed something |
| 03:03:01 | Wolfman928 | hanks i find this very useful |
| 03:03:14 | Wolfman928 | thanks sry bout the typos |
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| 03:05:58 | gevaerts | I copied about 500 MB in 30 mins to my sansa using the new patch, and the md5sums match. fsck.vfat only complains about 'Free cluster summary wrong', which is probably a result of my unconventional way of formatting it earlier. |
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| 03:07:37 | kfazz | manufacturing mode -> e200tool recover BL_SDboardsupportSD.rom, then hit rec->got to recoverymode -> coppied OF PP5024.mi4 to 20mb partition.. restart.. and still got rockbox |
| 03:07:51 | kfazz | still won't boot of either |
| 03:08:33 | kfazz | bl mi4 size: 595000 \n can't load from partition |
| 03:09:12 | gevaerts | kfazz: Is that PP5024 the same version as the bootloader ? On my c250 they need to match. |
| 03:09:49 | kfazz | i'm pretty sure , but i'll try again |
| 03:10:27 | gevaerts | kfazz: If you have the recovery mode, just dump all three files from the .7z on it at the same time (including the header.txt) |
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| 03:13:49 | kfazz | it only gets recovery mode through manufacturer mode with e200tool |
| 03:13:59 | kfazz | if i try without it it goes to rockbox |
| 03:14:45 | gevaerts | kfazz: I guess any kind of recovery mode would do. Just get it there and put all three files on it. |
| 03:14:51 | kfazz | i'll try that though, as even using same version pp5022.mi4 and sd_blah.bin doesn't work |
| 03:24:05 | kfazz | Got It! using all 3 files worked. |
| 03:24:58 | gevaerts | Wonderful. |
| 03:25:22 | ctaylorr | I'm also wondering if anyone has noticed a significant slowdown for rockbox recently. Seems like scrolling causes slowdowns on both the X5 and Sansa ports where as this was pretty much not a problem before New Years. |
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| 03:28:28 | kfazz | i think what i did was overwrite the sansa bootlaoder with the rockbox one |
| 03:28:45 | kfazz | it didn't show the sansa movie, just went straight to the rockbox logo |
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| 03:29:41 | gevaerts | kfazz: good to know that that works. Now that the usb mode is making progress I won't need the sansa firmware anymore soon |
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| 03:31:56 | kfazz | great, i've been hoping to get rid of it. guess i jumped the gun though : ) |
| 03:33:02 | gevaerts | I'm not going to remove it yet. It's nice to have something to fall back when your latest code experiment goes wrong |
| 03:34:54 | gevaerts | Going to sleep now. I should have done that hours ago |
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| 04:21:04 | J3TC- | Ah found my problem |
| 04:21:16 | J3TC- | The patch keeps appending to the same file over and over again |
| 04:21:17 | J3TC- | :[ |
| 04:21:26 | J3TC- | Took me a while to realize that |
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| 04:46:53 | crzyboyster | Which font gallery format is better? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UserConvertedFonts The top or bottom one? |
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| 05:08:10 | soap | I grok you most likely copied formatting from a WPS page, but: |
| 05:08:13 | soap | A - shouldn' |
| 05:08:27 | soap | shouldn't Rockbox require a clear license? |
| 05:08:46 | soap | B - I assume the "minimum version" info can be dropped? |
| 05:16:12 | scorche | but did you grok that he left? ;) |
| 05:16:51 | soap | apparently not. showing joins / parts does so clutter the screen. Perhaps I should reconsider. |
| 05:17:13 | scorche | they are handy |
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| 05:27:33 | madman91 | hey guys |
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| 05:28:35 | madman91 | any idea on how long the 6th gen support with take? (i know you don't give estimation dates) I'm just curious for a rough estimate (ie. +- 2,3,4 months) |
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| 05:30:29 | soap | until someone figures out how to defeat the encryption and even run the simplest of code on the iPod Classic, you might as well count in years. |
| 05:31:11 | scorche | that is assuming someone is even working on it, of course |
| 05:31:24 | soap | Come back a few months after the first published reports of people running their own code on the device, and you're more likely to get a feel for how much effort it will take. |
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| 05:42:07 | crzyboyster | Any more comments about the font gallery page? |
| 05:42:45 | crzyboyster | And BTW, I was given permission by the font author to post those fonts and will ask the authors or check the licenses for all fonts that I post. |
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| 05:44:12 | kkurbjun | :-D, the gigabeat F is booting from flash now |
| 05:44:27 | kkurbjun | no more legacy toshiba bootloader |
| 05:45:18 | madman91 | sounds good |
| 05:45:21 | madman91 | thanks guys |
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| 05:45:39 | madman91 | while we're on the subject, who has a 5.5G ipod classic to sell? :) |
| 05:54:18 | midgey | kkurbjun: sounds great |
| 05:55:38 | ashes | are any of you familiar with converting flash video for rockbox (on an iriver) |
| 05:55:51 | midgey | can't wait for the day when a rockbox bootloader is on my f40 |
| 05:56:49 | midgey | ashes: do a search on google about convert flash or flv to mpeg. the process should be the same for rockbox |
| 05:57:17 | ashes | the mpegs i make play video alright but the audio is very choppy |
| 05:57:58 | ashes | on my desktop the mpeg plays well |
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| 05:58:21 | ashes | on the iriver and rockbox, the audio is terrible |
| 05:58:28 | ashes | just for video |
| 05:58:40 | ashes | everything else is fine |
| 05:59:46 | midgey | make sure the bitrate is at an acceptable setting |
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