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#rockbox log for 2008-02-12

00:00:12preglowamiconn: yeah, and there we even thought we were pretty lenient in the first place...
00:00:15amiconnThe USB thread has a fairly big stack - which it actually needs, but that's not obvious
00:00:31gevaertsamiconn: I have a function that makes rockbox hang : http://pastebin.ca/900492
00:00:57gevaertsamiconn. If I enable the line that's commented out it hangs, otherwise not.
00:01:10amiconnIt only uses little stack - until you unplug usb again after having it connected. Then the USB thread is responsible for remounting the volume, and that remount needs quite some stack
00:01:39asdrubalLol this chess engine is pretty good :)
00:01:51preglowgevaerts: td_array is global?
00:02:17gevaertstd_array might be accessed by hardware, but I also tried a different struct that mirrors it without any difference
00:02:22gevaertspreglow: yes
00:02:25preglowweird...
00:02:38preglowiram? ram?
00:02:52preglowhangs or do you get an exception?
00:02:59Nico_Pgevaerts: can it be written by HW?
00:03:40gevaertsNico_P: it can, but bit shouldn't be at that moment
00:03:43gevaertspreglow: ram
00:03:47gevaertspreglow: hangs
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00:04:16asdrubalAre there stats on how many hours rockbox gives me with c240?
00:04:49Nico_Pgevaerts: a wild guess, but maybe the var needs to be volatile
00:05:49preglowi don't see how that could change anything
00:05:52preglowthere's no reloading happening
00:06:58gevaertstd_array is actually an UNCACHED_ADDR of the real array, which is 32 byte aligned
00:10:17gevaertsThe full patch which show the problem is at http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/test.diff
00:14:31gevaertsThat patch is actually the first step to enable simultaneous USB transfers (which we will need at some point and maybe already need now)
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00:15:37DerPapstbleh... the live log pearl scrpit doesn'T like the last link. it inserts span tags in the url too.
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00:16:27*scorche|w hands DerPapst a new keyboard
00:16:38gevaertsDerPapst: That's because that patch is somehow broken
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00:17:57DerPapstthe patch is fine. the pearl script gets confused if a nick is in the url.
00:18:09*gevaerts wishes the patch were fine
00:18:42*gevaerts also considers checking if the nicks http and www are still available
00:18:54DerPapstthe url looks like http://www.evonet.be/~<span class=nick_gevaerts>gevaerts</span>/test.diff
00:20:51rasherAh - it's hilighting the nick
00:20:57*gevaerts warns DerPapst to be careful with that kind of thing. He might trigger a recursive explosion of corrupted urls
00:21:19DerPapstrasher: yes... but also in the href...
00:21:29DerPapstgevaerts: hehe
00:21:31rasherYeah, it hilights nicks in speech
00:21:32stripwaxJdGordon|w/Buschel - added: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8596
00:21:54rasherThe nick-matching regexp should probably be stricter
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00:22:55DerPapstor just drop that in hrefs....
00:23:33rasherDerPapst: I doubt it's specifically searching hrefs
00:23:41rasherIt just fails to exclude them
00:23:42DerPapstthe srcipt fails also when you post 2 revision numbers with a r infront... such as r161234 and r165678
00:24:12DerPapstnope... works fine
00:24:17DerPapstah, wahtever :-P
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00:25:17*DerPapst shuts up
00:25:31*gevaerts speculates that his latest work might solve the reset issue, in the hope that this will lead more people to check what's wrong with it
00:26:22 Quit weezerle ("...und tschüss!")
00:28:25*amiconn prefers the raw text log over this script "enhanced" version anyway
00:30:11*DerPapst loves the script with all its pretty colors ;-)
00:31:04DerPapstthough the raw log is better if one greps something...
00:31:22amiconnIt loads way slower than the text version, hides away quite some information by default, and it doesn't store its setting as a default
00:32:24amiconnSo I always have to click "sans serif" and "Joins: show". Annoying.
00:32:29DerPapstit's been always fast enough for me... but the last one is annoying indeed
00:33:41amiconnIt could store the settings in a cookie...
00:34:36amiconnRegarding the slowness - the logs for previous days are okay, but the live log lags quite a lot sometimes
00:34:38DerPapstiirc it does that for old logs, but not the live fed
00:35:07DerPapst^ that being saving the settings
00:35:11DerPapstnot sure though
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00:35:53DerPapstyeah. sometime to takes ~1min to load to the current postition but that isn'T a biggie for me.
00:36:03DerPapsts/to/it
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00:40:24rasherIf only the raw log would wrap the text
00:40:45rasherI wonder if there's a firefox extension to wrap text/plain content
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00:41:19amiconnpetur: Do you see any reason why the GPIO values are first put into variables, and then printed?
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00:41:33peturamiconn: none
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00:42:51amiconnI would just put the GPIOx_INPUT_VAL macros into the snprintf calls
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00:43:03asdrubalmmm $90 for 8GB microsd
00:43:35*JdGordon|w got 6gb ones for $55
00:43:46amiconnActually, several other targets also use temporary variables - but only for GPIO, like for PP502x. For other registers, the macros are put into the snprintf calls
00:44:06asdrubalJdGordon|w, wow, where?
00:44:23JdGordon|wamazon had em on special
00:44:24amiconnThat seems rather inconsistent to me, and I can't imagine why it's done like that
00:44:28JdGordon|wsnatched me 2
00:44:28asdrubalJdGordon|w, lolz
00:44:40asdrubalIm gonna scope out the amazon hookup
00:44:54peturamiconn: somebody didn't care enough I guess
00:45:07scorche|wasdrubal: in the future keep those comments in #rockbox-community...you are already in there..
00:45:51asdrubalokie doke
00:47:35amiconnActually, all archs handled in dbg_ports() directly do it like that...
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00:59:18madspinHi folks... I think I have done something bad
00:59:29madspinI tried to reinstall rockbox on my Gigabeat
00:59:53madspinand it wasn't loading so I reinstalled the existing firmware
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01:00:11madspinand now I cannot even get a USB filesystem :|
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01:01:15madspinWhat I guess I'm trying to determine... Is whether there is any other way to reflash the firmware (without having access to the USB filesystem..)
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01:05:31*DerPapst is having problems compiling rockbox for his ipod video....
01:05:43DerPapsti rebuilt the arm compiler
01:05:53DerPapstand now i get something like this:
01:05:54DerPapstalarm_menu.c:97: error: 'LANG_ALARM_MOD_TIME' undeclared (first use in this function)
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01:06:15DerPapstand some other undeclared stuff too :-/
01:06:26pixelmamake clean and reconfigure...
01:06:47DerPapsti've started in an empty dir
01:06:54DerPapsti can try again though
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01:07:46pixelmahmm, maybe it's something else then...
01:08:25DerPapstlet's see what happens...
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01:09:43DerPapstall the missing things where LANG_*
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01:12:51DerPapsthhmmm... nope
01:12:56DerPapststill the same :-/
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01:14:44DerPapstwhere are the LANG_* thingies defined?
01:15:06JdGordon|wapps/lang/english.lang is the mater list
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01:16:03rasherThey're defined in lang.h iirc
01:16:11rasher(which is generated at build time)
01:16:19rasherTry looking at lang.h in your build dir
01:16:31DerPapstok
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01:17:09peturisn't this a side-effect of the build process failing somewhere?
01:17:50rasherSounds like it
01:18:07DerPapstthose constants are missing there
01:18:17DerPapstint the lang.h file
01:18:23DerPapst*in
01:19:37rasherDerPapst: is this a vanilla build?
01:20:23DerPapstonly 3 additional plugins and changed buttons for the sim
01:20:36DerPapstnothing changed at the core
01:20:52rasherYou'd think..
01:21:03rasherThe build system can be somewhat fragile
01:21:18DerPapsthmm.. but compiling the sim works fine
01:21:24DerPapstodd....
01:21:25rasherSounds like perhaps your features.txt aren't being defined correctly
01:21:59DerPapstwhere is that located?
01:22:18DerPapstor is that made at compile time too?
01:22:22rasherYup
01:22:33rasherI think it's located under apps/features.txt in your build dir
01:22:54rasherBut really, try with plain Rockbox, and then add the patches one by one
01:23:06DerPapsthmm... apps/features is empty... and it isn't a txt
01:23:26rasherIgnore the .txt, that's probably just my imagination
01:23:36rasherHm. What is your shell?
01:24:52DerPapstcygwin
01:24:55DerPapstso bash
01:25:04pixelmafeatures.txt is in apps here too, it's not imagination
01:25:24*DerPapst checks out a vanilla trunck
01:25:28DerPapst-k
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01:26:27DerPapstwithout .txt in the sim either
01:27:09pixelmaI don't understand?
01:27:46pixelmadid you search in "apps" of the build dir?
01:28:04DerPapstin the build dir for the ipod video sim apps/features doesn't have the txt extension eithr.
01:28:14DerPapstbut at least it has some content
01:28:48pixelmaI meant that there is a features.txt in the apps subdir of the source
01:29:06DerPapstah.. let me check
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01:29:36DerPapstyes, there is
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01:31:02DerPapstthe file looks ok and not broken in any way...
01:31:43DerPapstthe odd thing is one single LANG_ALARM_* thingy is in lang.h. only the others are missing.
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01:32:05DerPapstlang.h from the normal build
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01:34:18*DerPapst tried to compile from a vanilla source...
01:34:24DerPapst*tries
01:35:06DerPapsteh... this is fun...
01:35:38DerPapstsomething seems broken with arm-elf-ld :-S
01:36:34DerPapstheh... i'll try to figure that out tomorrow though. thanks for your help pixelma, rasher and petur :-)
01:36:36asdrubalis there a way to select "all tracks" in rockbox?
01:36:55DerPapstcreate a playlist in the root of your player
01:37:03DerPapstor use the database
01:37:23asdrubalI can't figure out how to do it with the database
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01:37:51pixelmaDerPapst: good luck, will try to get some sleep too
01:37:53asdrubalOh I got it...
01:38:04asdrubalit was stuck on the currently playing files
01:38:06DerPapstnight pixelma :-)
01:38:18pixelmanight all :)
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01:38:44*DerPapst should follow... 1:40am...
01:38:52*gevaerts as well
01:39:07DerPapstheh.. still hacking usb? ;-)
01:39:24gevaertsyes. I still have this same bug...
01:39:56*DerPapst hates bugs
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01:40:19DerPapstespecially those you can't find/fight in a couple of hours
01:41:03gevaertsI've been looking at this one for at least 3 or 4 hours.
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01:41:46DerPapstheh.. that kinda sucks ;-)
01:42:36gevaertsI've been looking at this one for at least 3 or 4 hours.
01:42:37DerPapstmaybe you've more luck in a couple of hours with a clear mind :-)
01:43:00DerPapstecho... cho ..ho ..o
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01:43:05gevaertsand now my fingers are doing weird things that I didn't ask them to
01:43:11DerPapsthehehe
01:44:51gevaertsI give up for today
01:45:49*gevaerts waves and goes to sleep
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01:48:16webguest25Zagor: (for the logs) it seems safari hates the live log. archived logs work fine but the live log tries to download the file using the download manager and gets stuck in a loop. if a user talks while i leave the download running, it will update the log that is being saved. supposedly the server push feature does work in safari though...
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01:50:40DerPapsto/
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01:52:46lxxhi
01:53:11lxxi have problem with my ipod with rockbox and xbox 360
01:53:43lxxxbox dont see mp3 files uploaded via rockbox
01:54:16lxxxbox see file only uploaded via ituns why its happen?
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01:54:53|NSA|anyone have details on what the latest usb stack patch was?
01:55:04rasherlxx: That's not a Rockbox problem. It's because your xbox isn't looking for all songs for some reason.
01:55:56midgey|webi think the xbox 360 uses the itunes db to read the files on the ipod
01:58:50midgey|web|NSA|: working read and write (albeit slow) for pp502x ipods and the sansas. its disabled in svn until it gets a lot of testing to ensure no filesystem corruption occurs
01:59:15midgey|websee FS #8562 for more details
01:59:24|NSA|yay
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02:00:39lxxso how to do xbox 360 start playing all songs its possible?
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02:04:02scorche|wlxx: dont ask us...ask microsoft...
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02:07:24lxxbut this problem can be solved or not?
02:08:46asdrubalDoh... recording just locked up my sansa
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02:23:51asdrubalis there a way to advance the playlist while playing a game?
02:24:31scorche|wif the game implements audio controls, otherwise no
02:24:58asdrubalyou know which games do?
02:25:35scorche|wnot offhand...
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03:08:42***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
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03:18:04crzyboysterWere there seriously server issues that prevented (or are preventing) uploading at http://rockbox-themes.org/ ?
03:18:47scorcheso you think that message is a lie?
03:18:53scorche;)
03:19:09crzyboysterNo... but server issues shouldn't last THAT long... :D
03:19:42scorcheit isnt server issues...it si bandwidth issues
03:20:19crzyboysterAny time frame as to when the site will be back up for uploading?
03:20:41scorcheprobably when viewports is committed
03:20:49scorche(viewports for WPS that is)
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03:21:31crzyboyster(I know I shouldn't ask this) When will the WPS part of viewports be committed?
03:21:49JdGordonwhen its done
03:21:50*scorche shrugs
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03:25:31|NSA|what exactly is the viewports thing i have been seeing?
03:25:33psycho_maniaci think the patch for the new gigabeat cabbie.20 wps wont work with newest svn.
03:25:53scorche|NSA|: there is a while wikipage about it..
03:26:52psycho_maniacJdGordon: what other players would you prefer the quickscreen to be tested on?
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03:31:34psycho_maniacn17ikh: there is a nes emulator for rockbox in the patch tracker i believe
03:32:30asdrubalpsycho_maniac, I take it NES is more intensive than GBA?
03:32:34asdrubalcpu/memory intensive
03:32:41n17ikhNES? nah
03:32:59asdrubalcompared to GBA
03:33:04n17ikhthe gba has the power to easily run NES games, so I'd say the GBA is harder to emulate
03:33:12asdrubaloh
03:33:19hcsgba is much more powerful, yeah
03:33:21asdrubaldo you think rockbox will ever support SNES?
03:33:28asdrubalI like SNES games better than NES games
03:33:34n17ikhI don't know that the hardware is powerful enough
03:33:54asdrubalmaybe in the future with newer hardware
03:33:58n17ikhmaybe in a couple more years when common players are a good deal more powerful for video
03:34:28n17ikhpsycho_maniac, did you reply in the wrong window or is my client/bouncer totally screwed?
03:34:40asdrubalconsidering a Pentium233mmx is sufficient to emulate SNES completely, I think that time is not too far off
03:34:59alienbiker99gigabeat s
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03:35:21psycho_maniaci figured it was rockbox related so i posted my answer in this window
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03:36:07n17ikhk
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03:36:11n17ikhjust confusing, that's all
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03:42:30n17ikhanyone got a favorite theme or two for the sansa e200 series?
03:42:53hcsI think the one I use is called "Ultima"
03:44:15n17ikhI'm using plainbrown at the moment, which is functional enough, but I'd like shiny every once in a while
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03:49:47KizleI've been running a few battery benchmarks on my gigabeat f40. I'd like to contribute to the wiki, so I'm here to request write privileges
03:52:00Kizle...I'm not sure who would handle that, so I'll stick around for a while, wait for a msg or something.
03:53:46midgey|webwiki name KyleGabriel?
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03:55:01Kizleyes
03:55:15midgey|webyou should now have access (unless i screwed something up)
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03:57:58Kizlethank you. I'm doing some benchmarks with the original battery, but I will be putting a newly mfg. 2000mAh in a few days
03:59:25psycho_maniacKizle: what player?
03:59:41Kizlegigabeat F40
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04:00:09psycho_maniacGood Luck
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04:02:40Kizlethanks. from the current benchmarks on that battery (ipod 3G) in the F40, it's a great improvement to the orig. Especially since this battery is starting to degrade.
04:03:26psycho_maniacI think i got a fake battery. I bought one installed it and got the same results as the original battery. :(
04:03:35Kizleer, 1200mAh, not 2000
04:04:25psycho_maniacand when i did install it i didnt like the "new" feel of the crosspad. Then the player ended up breaking anyways and now i own a new one yay me
04:04:26KizleI'm getting around 10 hours right now. I bought this refurbished, expecting to replace the battery.
04:04:58psycho_maniacKizle: did you buy your player off ebay?
04:05:39Kizleyes, $70. refurb. but the screen has not a speck on it, and physically, only a few scratches on the back
04:06:10psycho_maniacmay i ask what seller? I just bought one as well
04:07:11Kizlenutrition_outlet
04:07:35psycho_maniacHA same guy !
04:07:49Kizlehe has many
04:07:58psycho_maniacYeah i got a A class one though .
04:08:41Kizlehe just started selling C's, and after conversing a bit, suggested I would have a top pick of them (60 of em)
04:09:01Kizleit was worth it. I have a case to protect it, and cover up the back
04:09:34Kizlehow did yours break?
04:09:55asdrubalKizle, I'm testing my c240 for battery life right now
04:10:14psycho_maniaci took it apart too many times and one of the wires for the lcd screen broke.
04:10:56psycho_maniacAlso I have a F80 :)
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04:11:56KizleI have mine playing away on some Ethan Iverson Trio while benching it
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04:13:00Kizlenice, my friend has an S model. this was before Idiscovered rockbox, otherwise I would have swayed him
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04:14:24kieswhat cover do you use for your f40? ive been looking for one
04:14:33psycho_maniacI dont use one. I dont like them
04:15:32Kizletechnohm.com
04:16:18kiesawesome thanks :)
04:17:27psycho_maniacis the question "how do i add music in rockbox" in the FAQ? Just curious because i notice a lot of people ask that.
04:22:49Kizleodd. my password that I registered with the Wiki is not what it is. I had to reset it to be able to change it
04:23:09psycho_maniacmaybe you mistyped it
04:23:13Kizleit was 4 digits
04:23:35Kizleand I was sure of what I typed originaly
04:23:59Kizlethe email with my reg info had my password as 6 *'s
04:24:13Kizle7 rather
04:24:32Kizlewhat's done is done, though
04:24:45psycho_maniacstrange
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05:09:11asdrubalrockbox sounds like 100 million times better than my cellphone
05:09:46cool_walking_Was that unexpected for some reason?
05:09:49ashesi got video working on my iriver yesterday
05:10:22ashesflac uses more cpu while the file size gets smaller. ogg vorbis uses more cpu power as the file gets bigger. this is a confusing situation for me
05:10:47asheson a portable player, cpu power is a huge concern
05:12:59ashesi'm finding that flac -2 is the most practical, for size verses performance
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05:17:47kaimukiis anybody in here working on the yp-p2 port?
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05:20:30kaimukii wanna work on it, but I'm too scared I'm gonna brick my player :P
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05:38:31Lloreanashes: It's not as huge a concern as you think
05:38:43Lloreanashes: FLAC generally doesn't use all that much power at any size for decoding.
05:43:57*JdGordon hopes rbutil can parse .lang files
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05:47:23JdGordondoes this regex look ok to split up SOUND_SETTING(flags,var,lang_id,name,setting) ... ($line =~ /\s*SOUND_SETTING\((\w*),\s*(\w*),\s*(\w*),\s*(\w*),\s*(\w*)\)/) ?
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05:51:26*JdGordon needs a regex master about now...
05:51:53JdGordonhow the heck do i get the ... values? :'(
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06:04:04kfazzwhat kinds of things can (currently) be done with lists using viewports? the last post on FS #8457 looks really cool
06:05:51JdGordonnot much
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