00:00:29 | gevaerts | barrywardell_: but I suspect that on a H10 you have to use files. |
00:00:49 | midgey | Bagder: you're welcome. always glad to take midkay's credit ;) |
00:00:59 | barrywardell_ | gevaerts: ok, thanks. I'll try that now... |
00:01:10 | midkay | hahaha.. likewise, midgey :) |
00:01:12 | * | Bagder oopses |
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00:05:46 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: do you know if the udelay(2) is actually really needed, or was it tested to work with udelay(1), and then increased "just to be sure" ? |
00:06:26 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: I now have copied 300MB with udelay(1) and no errors |
00:06:51 | * | gevaerts gets nervous about delays that have to be just right |
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00:09:45 | * | gevaerts now gets an error again |
00:11:52 | jhMikeS | they can't be just right since interrupts will throw them off so perhaps that section could matter |
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00:12:27 | * | barrywardell_ copied a 350MB file over to his H10 and back and the md5sums match |
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00:13:17 | gevaerts | barrywardell_: did you unmount between both copies ? |
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00:13:30 | barrywardell_ | no, maybe I should have? |
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00:13:48 | gevaerts | barrywardell_: if you don't the kernel may still cache the data |
00:14:01 | ax | hmm, just updated the my ipod nano and now when i boot i just see : "Rockbox loaded." after the sum etc.. and nothing else happens |
00:14:15 | barrywardell_ | ok, I'll try unmounting, then copying the file back |
00:14:22 | amiconn | gevaerts, barrywardell_: Or mount with 'sync' |
00:14:33 | barrywardell_ | I'm on windows... |
00:14:44 | amiconn | xp? |
00:14:50 | barrywardell_ | yeah |
00:15:16 | amiconn | Then data shouldn't be cached. winxp disables caching for removable storage by default |
00:15:21 | amiconn | (fortunately) |
00:15:29 | gevaerts | amiconn: sync will force the data to be on disk, but does it prevent read cache as well ? |
00:15:37 | ax | should i update to a newer bootloader [is there one] i have 20060126-1829 |
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00:16:26 | jhMikeS | gevearts: A guess of mine is that it may expect an unbroken FIFO if using the WRITE_MULTIPLE_BLOCK command |
00:17:14 | Bagder | ax: yes you should |
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00:18:26 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: could be. I now removed the udelay entirely, and it still seems to work better than with udelay(2) |
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00:19:09 | barrywardell_ | gevaerts: md5sum is still the same after unmount and mount |
00:19:19 | barrywardell_ | and copying the file over and back again |
00:19:34 | amiconn | barrywardell_: Is that with highspeed? |
00:19:40 | gevaerts | barrywardell_: so your driver is probably more solid |
00:19:51 | barrywardell_ | amiconn: yes |
00:19:56 | amiconn | strange... |
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00:20:24 | * | gevaerts has noticed that Windows and Mac support seems to be hit-and-miss |
00:20:25 | amiconn | When I tried highspeed on windows (I only have ata based PP devices), it slowed down to a crawl and produced timeouts |
00:20:51 | amiconn | Fullspeed works like a charm for me though |
00:20:59 | barrywardell_ | amiconn: I think so anyway. how do I check? |
00:21:15 | gevaerts | barrywardell_: how fast was this 350MB copy ? |
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00:21:44 | barrywardell_ | I didn't time it, maybe a minute? |
00:22:37 | gevaerts | That's high speed. With full speed back and forth would have been more than 10 minutes for 350 MB |
00:23:29 | * | gevaerts uses the irc log timestamps to estimate connection speeds of various devices |
00:25:05 | ax | okay, new firmware fixed it :) |
00:25:21 | ax | oops, s/firmware/bootloader |
00:25:56 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: hmmm...but given sd_poll_status yields to other threads, that doesn't sound right or the problem should be more frequent and it takes way longer than 2us for turnaround |
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00:27:55 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: maybe that yield is the actual problem then ? |
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00:28:25 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: I now have more than 500MB without udelay and without problems (but with faster speeds) |
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00:29:14 | barrywardell_ | gevaerts, amiconn: it took a little under 2 minutes to copy to my H10, so definitely high speed |
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00:33:41 | barrywardell_ | gevaerts: on windows, my H10 with Rockbox USB appears as a "Hard Disk Drive" in My Computer, but with the OF disk mode it appears under "Devices with removable storage". is it supposed to be that way? |
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00:35:37 | gevaerts | barrywardell_: The old discussion... I think Hard Disk Drive is correct according to the SCSI spec, since the disk is fixed to the scsi handler, but some people seem to disagree |
00:36:25 | barrywardell_ | hmmm...ok. I don't think I've seen that with any usb storage before |
00:36:37 | gevaerts | barrywardell_: removable means you need to handle the SCSI commands for removable drives, which makes no sense at all if "removing" means "unplugging the cable" |
00:38:05 | gevaerts | And furthermore, how do you handle a device with both fixed storage and a card slot, like the sansas ? |
00:38:06 | amiconn | The ipods and the H10 appear as 'removable storage' with their respective OS or diskmode |
00:38:22 | amiconn | The H1x0, H300, archoses etc appear as hard disk drives |
00:39:03 | amiconn | Technically, 'hard disk drive' is correct as gevaerts just explained, but practically 'removable storage' does have advantages at least on windows |
00:39:10 | barrywardell_ | so by the specs hard drive is the correct way |
00:39:30 | amiconn | It stops windows from cluttering the device with its 'system volume information' folder etc |
00:39:42 | gevaerts | barrywardell_: that's my reading of the specs. But of course these specs predate USB |
00:39:49 | * | barrywardell_ thinks practicality is more important than technicalities |
00:39:52 | jhMikeS | sansas just mounts as two drives (the card driver shows up always) so why do things any differently? |
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00:40:33 | JamPSi | amiconn, Is it safe to delete 'system volume information' on ntfs drives? |
00:40:40 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: the drive shows, just like your floppy or cd... Anyway I think the disk cluttering argument is pretty strong. |
00:41:39 | jhMikeS | I thought removeable storage always showed even when absent |
00:42:04 | amiconn | Slight correction regarding archoses - the Ondios appear as 'removable storage' as well |
00:42:13 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: yes, except if you pull out the entire drive. Try pulling out your cdrom drive some day ;-) |
00:42:14 | amiconn | Makes sense as they have an MMC slot |
00:42:40 | amiconn | gevaerts: That's actually possible with some laptops... |
00:43:14 | amiconn | I mean hot-plugging/unplugging cd-roms - I've seen that on pre-usb laptops |
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00:43:45 | gevaerts | I know, my thinkpad can do that. So if you put a second hard drive in that bay (those exist), is that a removable drive ? |
00:44:13 | amiconn | Some PCs handle their internal sata hdds as removable drives |
00:45:00 | gevaerts | I think current software and hardware has confused the issue so much that you can't really make a good decision on this |
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00:45:08 | amiconn | Windows shows that 'safely remove hardware' icon even for the system disk on those. Of course it will always complain that the drive can't be removed because it's in use |
00:46:08 | gevaerts | They probably show that icon depending on the bus and not on what the device claims itself. Some SATA controllers support hotplugging |
00:47:34 | amiconn | I don't think so. A secondary disk actually can be removed this way and unplugged afterwards. And yes, sata was designed with hotplugging in mind |
00:48:27 | gevaerts | Anyway, I have now copied two gigabytes back and forth without any data errors. Still lots of ehci_hcd errors in my dmesg output, but that doesn't seem to cause much more than a slight slowdown on read. |
00:51:10 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: just because the udelay was there? |
00:51:30 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: that seems to make the difference, yes |
00:52:03 | gevaerts | I now write at 3.4 MB/s |
00:52:51 | jhMikeS | that just well, odd unless perhaps because it was between the PRG state and the FIFO check |
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00:54:22 | gevaerts | It certainly needs explaining. Commenting out code that is explicitly documented as needed to make things work raises some questions... |
00:55:45 | Nico_P | Domonoky_: here? I'm still unable to compile rbutil. I used to be able but maybe something changed on my system |
00:57:20 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: were the errors always at transfer sizes boundaries? |
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00:58:17 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: no. It was always at (start of transfer + 0x220), copying bytes from (start of transfer + 0x200) |
00:58:49 | gevaerts | So just after the end of the first block |
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01:09:26 | countrymonkey | Why havnn't fs#8576 and fs#8577 got looked at even though they are 2 wks old? |
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01:10:25 | Evilnick_ | Anyone around who deals with the default cabbiev2 theme? |
01:10:30 | countrymonkey | Most patches get looked at within 2 or so days! |
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01:11:29 | rasher | countrymonkey: It's a conspiracy |
01:11:46 | gevaerts | Another one ? |
01:11:55 | rasher | Or the same? |
01:13:32 | rasher | countrymonkey: You have got to stop using notepad |
01:14:45 | rasher | countrymonkey: 8576 has received attention already by the way. 8577 is so redundant that I don't know where to start, so I'm just going to close that. |
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01:17:52 | saratoga | Evilnick_: yeah whats up |
01:18:23 | Evilnick_ | saratoga: Just updated to a new build with cabbiev2 as the default theme. |
01:18:47 | Evilnick_ | So I saved my previous settings, i.e. from a build where it wasn't default. |
01:18:53 | Evilnick_ | Then deleted the .rockbox folder |
01:20:00 | Evilnick_ | When I tried to load my config file, the background disappeared and the font turned into grey boxes. I'm guessing that since cabbiev2 is now defined as the default that this is expected behaviour? |
01:21:10 | saratoga | Evilnick_: no idea |
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01:23:07 | saratoga | actually, if you're using a langauge not supported by the default theme you might get the boxes |
01:23:32 | saratoga | in which case, you should switch to a font with full unicode support |
01:23:40 | Evilnick_ | It's just english, so that can't be it |
01:24:00 | rasher | The only language I can think of not supported by the default theme would be Hebrew |
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01:24:15 | Evilnick_ | I'm trying a comparison of the older build's .cfg file and a brand new one to see if there are any obvious naming changes |
01:24:16 | * | rasher would love a nimbus-variant of the cabbiev2 theme |
01:25:02 | saratoga | well if anyone wants to change cabbie, its all done through #defines in settings_list.c, so its now quite easy to make adjustments |
01:25:33 | saratoga | (which everyone making a new port should do for their device once they're added to the build table) |
01:26:12 | amiconn | gevaerts: I have some rather odd results for you. I tried highspeed on my mini again |
01:26:23 | Evilnick_ | saratoga: It's probably a fairly small chance of someone doing exactly the same as me anyway that the effort for that probably isn't worth it in th elong run! |
01:27:27 | gevaerts | amiconn: what happened ? |
01:27:38 | amiconn | When connecting it via my hub, it still doesn't work. But when connecting it directly, it does work. The speeds are also "interesting": ~930KB/s write, ~2.1MB/s read |
01:28:18 | rasher | I think cabbiev2 looks so much better using the appropriately sized nimbus font (nimbus-12 on e200). Why was sazanami-wossname picked? |
01:28:21 | amiconn | But the hub itself is 100% okay, as it works for all other devices |
01:28:39 | amiconn | md5sum does match, btw |
01:29:00 | * | amiconn checks speeds with apple diskmode |
01:30:30 | jhMikeS | things also are "interesting" when disconnecting a device with "Safely Remove Hardware" vs. just unplugging it. RB doesn't detect the first very well and showing of the USB screen is rather dodgey even though a connection is made. |
01:31:19 | * | amiconn wouldn't notice that himself |
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01:32:03 | gevaerts | Currently showing the USB screen _is_ dodgey. It basically needs to be enumerated before a certain timeout has elapsed. This gets influenced by connection speed, other devices on the bus, hubs,... The rework I'm doing fixes that. |
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01:32:18 | * | jhMikeS just tries everything to test things |
01:33:06 | gevaerts | I'm not sure what safely remove hardware does exactly. I'll try to find out next week |
01:33:22 | amiconn | OF diskmode speed: ~1.6MB/s write, ~2.1MB/s read |
01:33:53 | amiconn | I.e. read speed is practically identical, but for writing, rockbox is significantly slower. And there's this hub problem |
01:34:00 | gevaerts | Do you have test_disk speed results as well ? |
01:34:39 | gevaerts | The hub problem is probably related to the errors I see in my dmesg output. I want to check them out at work next week with a real usb tracer |
01:35:25 | gevaerts | It's basically impossible to debug usb problems that are not just missing protocol bits using only software |
01:35:49 | * | amiconn is running test_disk speed tests @80MHz |
01:40:55 | amiconn | http://pastebin.ca/915748 |
01:42:46 | amiconn | Meh, when did dircache get enabled on this? /me doesn't want it on mini |
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01:45:21 | fed | does anyone here know why the sansapatcher does not work with the new sansa player (I have an e280) |
01:47:38 | linuxstb | Is it a "v2" e280? |
01:48:24 | gevaerts | amiconn: it seems you get about the same usb vs test_disk speed difference as I do on my c250 |
01:48:33 | fed | I don't know. My old one failed, so I brought it in, and gave me a new one. |
01:48:52 | linuxstb | fed: What's the version number of the original firmware? |
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01:49:29 | fed | The firmware is v03.01.11A |
01:49:46 | linuxstb | Then I'm sorry to say that's a "v2" and won't work with Rockbox (it's completely different hardware) |
01:50:01 | fed | No |
01:50:16 | fed | You are joking, I hope... |
01:50:21 | * | linuxstb hands fed a stick to beat Sandisk with |
01:50:24 | linuxstb | No. |
01:50:41 | fed | Can I install the old firmware? |
01:50:53 | krazykit | no, the v2 is completely different hardware. |
01:51:09 | fed | Do you know if anyone is working on a new port? |
01:51:34 | krazykit | you could check the New Ports forum; there is a thread there, but no unsigned code has been run yet. |
01:51:53 | krazykit | er, no custom code, i mean. |
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01:52:08 | Febs | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14064.0 |
01:52:09 | fed | I am totally devastated! |
01:52:26 | * | Febs thinks fed needs a different nick. |
01:52:41 | Febs | :) |
01:52:49 | jhMikeS | fed: it's an opportunity to start porting ;) |
01:54:11 | fed | a whole new level |
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01:57:43 | fed | well, thanks for the info. |
01:57:48 | fed | Until next... |
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10:00:00 | wisp_sh | hi everybody |
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10:00:42 | wisp_sh | can somebody help me? i have few questions about rockbox firmware |
10:00:50 | linuxstb | Just ask... |
10:00:55 | wisp_sh | =) |
10:00:57 | wisp_sh | ok |
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10:01:00 | wisp_sh | thanx |
10:02:23 | wisp_sh | do you know is it real to use ipod as simple flash player after patching with rockbox? |
10:02:48 | wisp_sh | iam sorry about my english ) |
10:03:06 | linuxstb | What do you mean by "flash player"? |
10:03:52 | wisp_sh | i mean is it possible to upload music on ipod not using itunes |
10:04:10 | linuxstb | yes |
10:04:17 | wisp_sh | good |
10:04:19 | wisp_sh | thank you |
10:04:28 | wisp_sh | and one more moment |
10:04:35 | linuxstb | Rockbox doesn't need any software on your PC - it just appears as an external hard drive, and will find any music you copy to it. |
10:04:45 | wisp_sh | did anybody install rockbox in linux? |
10:05:14 | wisp_sh | iam not sure that all will be clear with it |
10:05:17 | linuxstb | Yes, lots of us use Rockbox with Linux |
10:05:28 | wisp_sh | how i can do it? via wine? |
10:05:41 | wisp_sh | or.. i dont know ) |
10:05:57 | linuxstb | No need for Wine - the installation tools run in linux natively. |
10:06:14 | linuxstb | Which ipod do you have? |
10:06:14 | wisp_sh | really? :) nice |
10:06:21 | wisp_sh | 30 Gb Video |
10:07:54 | wisp_sh | hm.. look |
10:08:26 | wisp_sh | in manual that Ive find said that I need to exec Ipodpatcher.exe |
10:08:35 | wisp_sh | but there is no such file |
10:08:46 | wisp_sh | and anyway iam in linux now |
10:09:12 | wisp_sh | and I dont have windows on my pc ) |
10:09:38 | wisp_sh | please explain how to install rockbox in linux |
10:09:43 | advcomp2019 | there is a linux steps there |
10:09:50 | n1s | ipodpatcher is available as a linux binary |
10:10:01 | n1s | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodcolor/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-90002.3 |
10:10:20 | n1s | scroll down to "Bootloader installation from Linux" |
10:10:41 | wisp_sh | thanks a lot |
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10:13:29 | wisp_sh | Ive downloaded binary file.. it should have .bin extension yes? |
10:14:11 | n1s | no |
10:14:47 | n1s | it's just called "ipodpatcher" no extension |
10:14:59 | wisp_sh | ok |
10:16:40 | wisp_sh | this patch included just bootloader in it? |
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10:18:50 | wisp_sh | guys |
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10:18:59 | wisp_sh | I dont understand one moment |
10:19:07 | wisp_sh | what I need to do first |
10:19:13 | wisp_sh | install this patch |
10:19:25 | wisp_sh | or install rockbox? |
10:19:37 | wisp_sh | or this is the same? :) |
10:19:47 | bluebrother | you can't "install" a patch. |
10:20:11 | bluebrother | patches (or better, diffs) get applied. |
10:20:18 | Lear | Anyone else getting a message about "cannot stat rockbox/icons/viewers.bmp" when making a zip? |
10:20:52 | n1s | amiconn: deleted that file yesterday |
10:20:57 | bluebrother | Bagder: just got an idea ... how about adding a link to rbutil on the build.rockbox.org download page? |
10:21:19 | wisp_sh | <bluebrother> sorry, english is not my native language ) |
10:21:25 | bluebrother | and diffs go against the source, not the binary. |
10:22:09 | Lear | n1s: And now there's some WPS that incorrectly references it? |
10:22:28 | bluebrother | wisp_sh: me neither. I just wanted to make clear that there is a substantial difference between the so-called "patches" (I prefer calling them "diffs", because that's what they are) and binary patches (like MS distributes them) |
10:22:52 | bluebrother | in order to apply a patch you need to be able to compile. |
10:23:01 | n1s | Lear: I have no idea how all that works but probably something like that |
10:24:53 | wisp_sh | bluebrother ok ) Ive applied this patch. what is the next step? ) |
10:25:27 | bluebrother | well, build the sources. Then you'll get a zip file which you can extract to the player as you do for the official builds. |
10:25:44 | bluebrother | WPSLIST:39 references that file |
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10:28:05 | wisp_sh | bluebrother just copy zip file to ipod? i dont understand a little sorry |
10:28:25 | amiconn | Lear: Looks like I forgot to change a line in WPSLIST... |
10:28:30 | bluebrother | the manual tells you how to do a manual install. You need to extract the zip to the root of your player |
10:28:39 | wisp_sh | oh |
10:28:53 | wisp_sh | ive missed this line in manual |
10:28:57 | bluebrother | or are we talking about different things? What are you trying to achieve? |
10:29:06 | wisp_sh | too much english today for me ) |
10:30:14 | bluebrother | if you want to install an official build you can simply use Rockbox Utility. If you want to add patches it's a lot more complicated. |
10:31:00 | wisp_sh | i want to install rockbox |
10:31:01 | amiconn | Lear, n1s: The viewers.bmp in icons/ was wrong because it was used unconditionally for both colour and non-colour targets |
10:31:04 | wisp_sh | nothing else |
10:31:12 | bluebrother | dang. Ok, in that case I got you wrong. |
10:31:27 | bluebrother | sorry for the confusion. |
10:31:46 | bluebrother | well, just try Rockbox Utility −− http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility |
10:31:55 | amiconn | The correct one is generated from apps/plugins/bitmaps/viewer_defaults/viewers.<format>.bmp, and will always be included |
10:32:32 | amiconn | But because of this, the themes wanting the default must no longer reference it explicitly, but set it to empty instead |
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10:33:05 | amiconn | I overlooked one wps in WPSLIST (the first one, because of the load of comments surrounding that line) |
10:33:42 | amiconn | fixed now |
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10:38:14 | wisp_sh | hmm |
10:38:40 | wisp_sh | how i can boot the original firmware? what keys i need to press? |
10:38:53 | n1s | Yay, the weird resube bugs seem to be fixed for me now :) |
10:38:56 | bluebrother | flip the hold switch during boot |
10:39:12 | bluebrother | the manual holds this and a lot of other helpful things ;-) |
10:39:32 | wisp_sh | bluebrother thanks :) |
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10:48:28 | wisp_sh | and how i can reboot manully from original firmware? :) |
10:48:59 | bluebrother | press and hold Menu + Select (assuming you're using a recent ipod) |
10:49:36 | wisp_sh | yahoo |
10:49:38 | wisp_sh | =) |
10:49:46 | wisp_sh | rockbox installed :) |
10:49:55 | wisp_sh | thank you everybody |
10:50:02 | wisp_sh | for your help |
10:50:11 | bluebrother | oh, and one question: have you used the "Complete Install" from Rockbox Utility? |
10:50:31 | wisp_sh | Ive installed it manually |
10:50:42 | bluebrother | I want to figure out if that option still has issues or it's fixed. |
10:50:58 | bluebrother | ok. You might want to install some themes though ;-) |
10:52:27 | n1s | bluebrother: unrelated rbutil question: does the bootloader installation for iaudios tell the user that he has to connect the charger for the flashing to work? |
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10:53:33 | bluebrother | n1s: from looking at the source, yes. |
10:53:55 | bluebrother | it doesn't explicitly says that the charger is necessary. Might be a good addition |
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11:29:08 | wisp_sh | hm |
11:29:18 | wisp_sh | can anyone explain |
11:29:44 | wisp_sh | in which folder upload music with installed rockbox? |
11:31:17 | desowin | anywhere on player |
11:31:36 | desowin | and then you browse to that directory on player |
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11:32:04 | Horscht | the .rockbox folder is not recommended, though |
11:32:21 | wisp_sh | ok |
11:32:25 | wisp_sh | thank you :) |
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13:06:07 | pixelma | Lear: thanks for the fix, my "broken" folders (as described in FS #8520) work again now :) |
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13:12:56 | crazy_bus | is there anyway to press space in the vkeyboard on the spectrum emulator. I'm trying to load a game but I can't get past the initial game screen |
13:13:59 | desowin | from my experience loading spectum tapes takes a lot of time |
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13:14:43 | desowin | but once you have save state after loading it works nicely :-) |
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13:17:21 | gevaerts | So it's just like the real one |
13:17:23 | crazy_bus | the tape loads. But it doesn't progress past the copyright notice. I think it's waiting for something |
13:17:33 | Buschel | two question: 1. is the CPU boosted while reading from HDD? 2. what is the chunk size when buffering from HDD? |
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13:19:19 | gevaerts | Buschel: the ata driver itself doesn't boost |
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13:23:14 | Buschel | i wonder if boosting while HDD-read could reduce the uptime of the disc for buffering. maybe another way to save some power... |
13:23:40 | n1s | AFAIK the buffering boosts, dunno where though... |
13:23:42 | Nico_P | pixelma: awesome news :) |
13:23:55 | n1s | maybe Nico_P knows :) |
13:24:01 | Lear | playback.c does it, I think, maybe buffering.c too. |
13:24:30 | Nico_P | buffering.c does boostin buffer_handle |
13:24:45 | gevaerts | For the usb stack, at least for sd-card, boosting significantly increases performance |
13:26:10 | fyrestorm | hello |
13:27:59 | Buschel | Nico_P: ok. and 2nd question: the "standard" chunksize for buffering is BUFFERING_DEFAULT_FILECHUNK (=16KB)? |
13:28:12 | Nico_P | yes |
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13:30:37 | Nico_P | Buschel: have you noticed improvement with Lear's commit? (and also jhMikeS' on Friday) |
13:31:17 | Nico_P | specifically, r16392 and r16367 |
13:31:34 | Buschel | I did not measure yet. Just had some thoughts about this... I'll check. |
13:34:58 | Nico_P | thanks :) |
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13:44:20 | fyrestorm | just tried newest build: doesnt seem to bsod vista now |
13:45:09 | fyrestorm | wait nevermind. |
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14:02:33 | amiconn | Bah, nasty resume problems :( |
14:03:00 | Nico_P | still? |
14:03:19 | amiconn | In a flac album, I played just a part of the first track. When resuming later, that track started from the beginning instead of the correct resume problem |
14:03:28 | amiconn | s/problem/position/ |
14:03:38 | n1s | amiconn: are you up to date? |
14:03:40 | Nico_P | amiconn: latest SVN? |
14:03:57 | amiconn | And when track 1 ended, it continued playing track 3, not track 2 as it should |
14:04:02 | amiconn | r16396 |
14:04:29 | Nico_P | :( |
14:04:55 | Nico_P | and why can't I ever see those issues? :( |
14:05:22 | n1s | r16392 fixed my problems... |
14:05:35 | * | Nico_P has to go... bbs |
14:06:25 | amiconn | I didn't notice those issues with mp3, but the majority of albums on my H180 is flac |
14:06:51 | * | n1s tries flac |
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14:08:34 | n1s | yep, here too, resuming sometimes start from the beginning of the track and sometimes skips 2 tracks ahead... |
14:08:45 | n1s | with flac, vorbis works fine now... |
14:09:04 | n1s | on h320 |
14:15:17 | n1s | wow, the tuner in the beast supports RDS, now if there were anything worth listening to on the radio... |
14:19:39 | Lear | No surprise flac doesn't work, it tries to read stuff before taginfo_ready is set. I'll fix. |
14:20:41 | Lear | (Not that I could see the problem myself, but that was on a flash target and no album art present...) |
14:21:12 | * | amiconn uses no album art |
14:21:27 | * | Lear knew that |
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14:24:24 | markun | n1s: "the beast" == Gigabeat S? |
14:24:30 | n1s | yeah |
14:24:32 | markun | ;) |
14:25:20 | markun | do you have one? |
14:25:45 | n1s | yes, i got one through "scorce super shipping service" :) |
14:25:59 | n1s | s/scroce/scorche |
14:26:41 | markun | n1s: do you plan on doing some low level stuff for it? |
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14:27:05 | azdrubal | Could someone help me with rbutil for windows? |
14:27:06 | Buschel | my first tests with the new USB-stack (USE_ROCKBOX_USB, USE_HIGH_SPEED) weren't that promising. using w2k, hub and 5.5G |
14:27:10 | azdrubal | It won't detect my sansa |
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14:27:21 | n1s | markun: I am interested but currently most of what needs to be done is way over my head |
14:27:50 | azdrubal | I need help... it won't detect my sansa |
14:27:54 | markun | I think one of the important things is to get USB working |
14:28:00 | rasher | Lear: that ls command should indeed use -n rather than -l |
14:28:01 | azdrubal | I have the sansa plugged in hard drive mode |
14:28:06 | azdrubal | I can broase the filesystem on it |
14:28:09 | azdrubal | browse |
14:28:29 | azdrubal | but rbutil can't detect anything |
14:29:22 | azdrubal | could someone help me pretty please? |
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14:30:01 | rasher | azdrubal: try pointing it at it manually by selecting the drive |
14:30:07 | azdrubal | I did |
14:30:16 | azdrubal | I typed in f:\ and selected c200 |
14:30:23 | Lear | Hm, mpc and ape are likely to have resume problems too. Someone should probably go through the codecs and make sure they all have the proper "wait for taginfo_ready" loop (e.g., as in vorbis.c). |
14:30:34 | markun | I wonder what USB 0v8, 2v0 and 4v4 are: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MC13783Regs#Interrupt_Sense_0_Register_2 |
14:31:12 | markun | aliask put it there, so I guess he will know |
14:31:35 | azdrubal | And yes I have a V1 |
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14:32:25 | rasher | asdrubal: What happens when you try to install the bootloader? |
14:32:36 | asdrubal | sansa c200 not detected |
14:32:40 | asdrubal | installing rockbox seemed to work |
14:32:47 | asdrubal | lets see if it boots up |
14:32:55 | rasher | Try downloading sansapatcher and running it manually |
14:33:07 | rasher | Which OS are you using? |
14:33:13 | asdrubal | is the bootloader updates constantly like rockbox is? |
14:33:36 | rasher | No. Bootloader updates are very rare |
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14:36:00 | kikkoman`` | good morning :) |
14:36:44 | kikkoman`` | i just installed rockbox last night, and i plugged my ipod into the computer and it bluescreens... |
14:36:55 | kikkoman`` | 80gig hdd. windows XP x64 |
14:37:05 | kikkoman`` | er, 80gig ipod :p |
14:37:57 | n1s | does it work if you manually restart in the original firmware? |
14:39:28 | gevaerts | That sounds like the problem fyrestorm reported earlier. Can you try the build from 2008-02-22 ? |
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14:41:07 | asdrubal | is there a "sync" equivalent in windows? |
14:42:32 | n1s | Lear: fix works for me :) |
14:42:34 | kikkoman`` | ooo i think i found a fix |
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14:43:29 | kikkoman`` | i actually did two things.. i was using anapod manager before i put rockbox on here... so i ended that program |
14:43:34 | asdrubal | yay I got it workin |
14:43:35 | asdrubal | sweetness |
14:43:42 | kikkoman`` | then i put the ipod into.. "disk mode" |
14:43:50 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
14:44:06 | kikkoman`` | i'll take it out of diskmode and try again, then we'll know which one fixed it |
14:46:39 | fyrestorm | kikkoman``: 2008-02-22 is the last build that doesnt BSOD me |
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14:47:00 | fyrestorm | yeah he bluescreened. |
14:49:49 | * | gevaerts goes to try and reproduce this on a sansa and Windows XP 32 |
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14:52:49 | kikkoman`` | ok just a follow up... running the ipod in "disk mode" before i plugged it in fixed it |
14:53:39 | asdrubal | what's the current build status for USB in rockbox mode for sansa? |
14:53:47 | asdrubal | can I try it? |
14:54:08 | gevaerts | kikkoman``: that's expected, and probably the easiest workaround for now |
14:54:14 | asdrubal | Doh it rebooted the sansa |
14:54:29 | fyrestorm | yeah thats how i have to do it too |
14:54:45 | fyrestorm | also, i get random restarts and total battery drains playing SPC files |
14:54:46 | rasher | asdrubal: Yeah, that happened to me last night as well (plain Rockbox build) |
14:55:13 | gevaerts | asdrubal: USB mass storage is not enabled in the official build yet. I expect to start offering unofficial builds in a few days |
14:55:41 | asdrubal | coolness |
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14:56:12 | asdrubal | gevaerts, I read somewhere that there is power drain after plugging in USB ? |
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14:57:23 | gevaerts | asdrubal: there shouldn't be. It should charge. Do you remember where you read it ? |
14:57:38 | asdrubal | irc maybe |
14:59:44 | kikkoman`` | well thanks guys. really happy with rockbox. i've suggested it to people for so long, but never tried it till yesterday.. the games are going to keep me awake at night now |
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15:00:29 | gevaerts | kikkoman``: have fun. The usb BSOD problem should be solved in a few days |
15:00:46 | kikkoman`` | i'll check back in then. would it be on the main news page? |
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15:01:36 | kikkoman`` | the work around isn't hard.. just knowing me i'll forgot a lot and just plug it in |
15:01:56 | Buschel | gevearts: I reported the power drain after one-time USB-plugging. that was even before your submits into svn |
15:02:03 | gevaerts | Is there anyone around with an ipod 5G who can do his/her own builds, can bisect, and can reproduce the BSOD problem ? |
15:02:16 | gevaerts | Buschel: ok. I won't worry too much about it then |
15:02:42 | pixelma | Buschel: hasn't that been fixed by barrywardell a bit later? |
15:03:19 | Buschel | gevaerts: but maybe you've got any idea? maybe connected to the register configuration of some USB-registers? not the DEV_EN registers, but some USB-controller's? |
15:03:54 | pixelma | Buschel: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/firmware/target/arm/usb-fw-pp502x.c?view=log&pathrev=16354 |
15:04:15 | Buschel | pixelma: no, barry's fix did solve excessive draining, but not the still remaining ~1.7mA |
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15:06:42 | gevaerts | Buschel: I'll go through the USB controller registers in the imx31 spec and see if I find something interesting |
15:09:09 | amiconn | gevaerts: Am I right in thinking that windows is wrong in relying on the USB version to determine possible speed? |
15:09:23 | amiconn | Afaik USB2.0 does not *demand* highspeed support |
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15:10:54 | rasher | gevaerts: your latest commit also enabled logf for that file |
15:11:34 | fyrestorm | gevaerts: i can make my own builds btut i dont know how to bisect :p |
15:13:20 | Horscht | fyrestorm, you get a revision that has the issue, and one that doesn't |
15:13:41 | Horscht | then you make a build that's right in between those 2 revision |
15:13:56 | fyrestorm | all i know is the revision from 20080222 works |
15:14:09 | gevaerts | amiconn: true, but this is the easiest way to do it, and I know it works. The official way would be to stall the request for a device qualifier descriptor, but that would require lots of testing to make sure it doesn't break anything. As this is a temporary measure (USE_HIGH_SPEED will go once high-speed works reliably), I think this is the best way. |
15:14:33 | gevaerts | fyrestorm: can you checkout from svn ? |
15:14:43 | Horscht | Revision is best named in SVN revision numbers fyrestorm |
15:14:45 | fyrestorm | im really new to building things |
15:14:50 | fyrestorm | so i dont understand alot |
15:16:23 | fyrestorm | if someone could walk me through what to do, id be happy to test |
15:17:24 | gevaerts | fyrestorm: I'll make some builds for you to test. |
15:17:34 | fyrestorm | will do then |
15:19:35 | gevaerts | fyrestorm: just to check that I remember everything correctly : official builds up to and including 20080222 work, and starting from 20080223 they don't ? |
15:19:46 | fyrestorm | yes |
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15:26:53 | gevaerts | fyrestorm: now building... You'll get 9 builds. Once I uploaded them, the way to do this is to try the first to check if it's ok, then try the last to check if it fails. If not, there's something fishy going on as they should be equivalent to 20080222 and 20080223. |
15:27:06 | fyrestorm | sure |
15:27:09 | fyrestorm | ill go in order |
15:27:57 | gevaerts | fyrestorm: Then try the one halfway. If that works, try one halfway that one and the last, else halfway that one and the first, and so on... Of course, with only nine builds, you can start at the first and go up until it fails |
15:28:36 | fyrestorm | sure thing. just zip them in order and ill get to it |
15:29:19 | rasher | fyrestorm: They idea is not to do them in order, but rather do the bare minimum needed to circle in on which one broke |
15:29:28 | fyrestorm | oh ok |
15:29:45 | rasher | Of course, this is less important when there are only 9 |
15:30:50 | gevaerts | Of course, since the bug involves a BSOD, failing tests can take some time... |
15:30:59 | fyrestorm | ive got a spare sysyem |
15:31:00 | fyrestorm | system |
15:32:54 | * | gevaerts should really install a rockbox build environment on his core duo system |
15:33:29 | fyrestorm | ive got the vmware package |
15:33:46 | fyrestorm | but im still really new XD |
15:34:23 | gevaerts | I'm doing development on my laptop, but I have a server here that's much faster. It doesn't really matter for one build, but for nine ... |
15:34:32 | fyrestorm | yeah heh |
15:35:58 | gevaerts | Now uploading. |
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15:40:33 | gevaerts | fyrestorm: builds are at gevaerts/testbuilds/">http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/testbuilds/ |
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15:41:27 | Benjamin_L | is there help needed for high speed usb tests on the sansa e series? I could do whatever you need ^^ |
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15:42:01 | fyrestorm | gevaerts: dling now |
15:42:56 | fyrestorm | gonna work backwards from the middle |
15:43:42 | rasher | fyrestorm: well if the middle works, then you'd better work forwards |
15:43:51 | fyrestorm | i know |
15:43:53 | fyrestorm | :P |
15:46:52 | gevaerts | Benjamin_L: there seems to be a bug in the flash driver on the sansas (at least the c) that makes writing from high-speed usb unreliable. Can you make a build with USE_ROCKBOX_USB and USE_HIGH_SPEED defined, and try writing a large file (preferably to the SD card, since that's a lot safer), then unmount, remount, read it back and verify if the files are identical. |
15:47:24 | Benjamin_L | ok then first i need to get it building, never built rockbox before |
15:47:50 | Benjamin_L | and i don't have a microsd card ^^ |
15:48:45 | gevaerts | Benjamin_L: I could provide test builds, but using the internal flash to identify a write error will probably lead to having to reinstall everything. Better leave that to someone who has an sd card... |
15:49:01 | * | rasher is on it |
15:49:48 | Benjamin_L | ok |
15:49:56 | * | desowin tests if data were saved successfully by puting sd card in card reader :) |
15:50:29 | gevaerts | desowin: reading seems to be reliable... |
15:51:50 | desowin | you mean sansa->pc reliable, otherwise not? |
15:53:07 | desowin | I write to card by sansa and read it in reader |
15:54:02 | rasher | gevaerts: does sd vs sdhc matter? |
15:55:41 | gevaerts | rasher: no idea. That would be useful to know as well |
15:56:10 | rasher | I'll try both. Trying SD now, 420MB file |
15:56:13 | gevaerts | desowin: that seems to be the case, yes. At least on my c250 |
15:57:26 | gevaerts | And by takig out a udelay() that the comments explicitly say is needed to make it work, makes it work here... |
15:57:43 | * | rasher got a reset |
15:58:11 | rasher | Just one though |
15:58:17 | rasher | Done in about 2-3 minutes |
15:58:40 | gevaerts | rasher: I see lots of resets (and other errors) at high speed, especially on reading but they don't seem to slow it down much. |
15:59:33 | fyrestorm | gevaerts |
15:59:42 | fyrestorm | 16374 is the problem build |
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16:00:16 | Horscht | the first time it appeared? |
16:00:18 | desowin | regarding that comment I could only see that it was added here in early state and became obsolete... but I haven't checked svn blame though |
16:01:14 | rasher | gevaerts: md5sum matches for 420MB filed copied from PC->microSD card on an e200 |
16:02:42 | rasher | Trying a hc card now |
16:04:50 | gevaerts | fyrestorm: So everything up to 16372 works ? I'll try to find out why 16374 doesn't. Thanks for testing |
16:04:55 | fyrestorm | welcome |
16:04:57 | fyrestorm | and yes |
16:05:31 | rasher | 420MB copied in 2:25 :) |
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16:06:34 | * | gevaerts likes high speed in general |
16:06:52 | rasher | md5sum doesn't match though... |
16:07:09 | rasher | This was with sdhc - doesn't have to mean that's the problem, of course |
16:07:27 | rasher | And I'm using a cardreader, so the problem happened when writing |
16:08:33 | gevaerts | It might mean that the problem is harder to reproduce on e200. |
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16:09:26 | * | gevaerts assumes that ata-c200_e200.c was mainly tested on e200 during initial development |
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16:14:48 | * | gevaerts dislikes the svn habit to add 'r' in front of every revision number in its output, and then rejecting revision numbers starting with 'r' on input |
16:20:30 | Benjamin_L | does anyone use ubuntu or debian and knows where to get this arm-elf-gcc? |
16:20:38 | rasher | Benjamin_L: Compile it |
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16:22:09 | gevaerts | Benjamin_L: the rockbox source has a script tools/rockboxdev.sh that builds arm-elf-gcc (and other needed tools) |
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16:23:02 | * | gevaerts really doesn't see how 16374 can make windows crash |
16:23:23 | rasher | gevaerts: do you want me to do more testing? |
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16:24:13 | billenium | Hey rockboxers! |
16:24:16 | kikkoman`` | Benjamin_L, i do... did you try sudo apt-get install arm-elf-gcc? |
16:24:55 | rasher | kikkoman``: That won't work. Debian does not ship gcc crosscompilers |
16:24:56 | kikkoman`` | nevermind. gevaerts answered better |
16:25:13 | kushal_one | Hello, I think I have bricked my Sandisk Sansa c250. The computer I use with my RockBox is a macbook with Mac OS X 10.4. I wanted to copy all files in the sansa disk to a place in the hard disk but somehow I ended up deleting everything. I did not realize what I had done until it was too late. Now when I turn the device on, it does not have anything in the display but only the backlight to the navigation buttons. Can I reverse this process? Pleasehel |
16:25:13 | kushal_one | p ...I think the problem is that the part of the storage on the sandisk sansa c250 that I can modify is blank. I accidentally deleted it. |
16:25:13 | kushal_one | Recovery mode does not work, neither does the Volume up + right navigation mode. A friend suggested that the device might be stuck in some sort of manufacturer mode. Please help me. How can I unbrick this player? |
16:25:15 | kushal_one | I think the problem is that the part of the storage on the sandisk sansa c250 that I can modify is blank. I accidentally deleted it. |
16:25:18 | kushal_one | Recovery mode does not work, neither does the Volume up + right navigation mode. |
16:25:20 | kushal_one | A friend suggested that the device might be stuck in some sort of manufacturer mode. Please help me. How can I unbrick this player? |
16:25:24 | kikkoman`` | i just guessed, i ahve no idea what arm-elf-gcc is |
16:25:45 | gevaerts | rasher: it seems that the sd driver behaves slightly differently on e200 than on c200, but I think more testing can reveal only what numbers work best _most of the time_, which IMHO isn't good enough. Someone needs to find out how to fix this properly (preferably someone who knows this driver) |
16:26:01 | kushal_one | The player does not even show up on my macbook (10.4.11). It shows the notification bubble on a Windows machine but it still does not work. |
16:26:02 | kushal_one | Bootloader mod did not work on my mac. |
16:26:02 | kushal_one | Let me add some detail if they help. Just before the player stopped working, I think I ended up deleting everything in the player when I wanted to back up the files. I remember that the player worked even after this but it stopped working once I turned it off and back on. |
16:26:02 | DBUG | Sent KICK kushal_one to server |
16:26:02 | kushal_one | Is there anything I can do? |
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16:27:01 | rasher | kushal_one: you need to use e200tool to fix your sansa which is indeed stuck in manufacturer mode |
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16:28:04 | Benjamin_L | gevaerts: thanks, running it right now |
16:33:50 | rasher | gevaerts: so your theory is that it isn't an USB problem, but a ata driver problem? |
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16:36:03 | gevaerts | rasher: yes. Everything points to that. reading back from flash what hasjust been written from the UMS driver shows a difference, the error is 32-byte aligned somehow (which is the SD chunk size), the error has a size of two bytes (SD works with words), removing the udelay() seems to fix it, and it doesn't seem to be reproducible on disk targets |
16:40:11 | rasher | Good thing the sansas are not used much for recording, or we'd have been lynched by now |
16:40:17 | gevaerts | Buschel: I found two possible register settings that might influence power consumption. Can you test them, or should I ask someone else (I can't really do it myself, as I can't realistically do three full battery tests now) |
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16:41:53 | gevaerts | rasher: for some reason I can't reproduce it without USB. test_disk doesn't see it and copying a large file within rockbox doesn't trigger it either, so USB probably does something (timing, RAM access, ...) that makes it more likely |
16:41:54 | Buschel | gevaerts: I had some strange issues with the USB-stack. In HIGH_SPEED mode it was recognized by win2k, but it took minutes until the driver letter was assigned. Then there was no access possible to the device. When using FULL_SPEED everything seem to work fine until I started to copy a 200MB-file to my iPod: The multicard reader attached to the same hub was dis- and reconnected several dozen times... Is this known? |
16:43:06 | Horscht | could the ipod simply drain too much energy, leaving the hub with not enough power to keep the card reader "alice"? |
16:43:14 | Horscht | (wild guess) |
16:43:23 | Horscht | based on nothing |
16:43:53 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
16:45:12 | gevaerts | Buschel: the first one is known. I hadn't heard about the second problem yet. I'm starting to suspect that there is a signal quality issue somewhere. Is it possible that somehow the usb controller needs a higher voltage to work properly ? |
16:45:22 | * | gevaerts assumes that alice is alive |
16:46:18 | gevaerts | Horscht: if it were a power drain issue, I think the problems would also occur without a busy transfer |
16:47:10 | Hodapp | hmm... if my iPod 3G is plugged into a dock with Firewire just providing power from an AC adapter, it turns off periodically (which is normal) and then immediately starts back up (which I don't think is normal{ |
16:49:26 | kushal_one | rasher, how does the e200tool work? |
16:52:16 | rasher | kushal_one: I don't know much about it - http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200tool.html |
16:52:43 | kushal_one | thanks, rasher |
16:53:36 | Buschel | gevaerts: but wouldn't the iPod disconnect, if there would be an power issue with the USB-controller? But the iPod's connection seemed stable, only the other device disconnected... |
16:54:14 | Buschel | gevaerts: and btw, what registers did you find that may influence power consumption? |
16:54:33 | kushal_one | since, Tiger is Unix-like just like Linux, the e200tool should work on it. but I don't want to do anything even more stupid than I have already done |
16:57:21 | gevaerts | Buschel: the port control register (REG_PORTSC1) has a bit to stop the PHY clock, which could be enabled by setting "REG_PORTSC1 |= PORTSCX_PHY_LOW_POWER_SPD;" at the end of usb_drv_exit() in usb-drv-pp502x.c, or the entire controller could be reset with "REG_USBCMD |= USBCMD_CTRL_RESET;" at the same place. Both need to be called after the REG_USBCMD &= ~USBCMD_RUN line. I think the first is more likely to help, the second one is more of a guess |
16:57:34 | krazykit | kushal_one, there's a pre-built e200tool for osx in a recent mailing list post, should you need it. |
16:58:18 | Buschel | gevaerts: what is the configuration of REG_PORTSC1 before attaching USB the first time? |
16:58:32 | gevaerts | Buschel: and as far as electrical problems are concerned, USB behaviour is pretty much unpredictable if you have them |
16:58:36 | kushal_one | yes, that would be great, krazykit. could you link me? A link to the instructions in simple english would be great too |
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17:00:34 | krazykit | kushal_one, flip through this thread. it has a link for e200tool-mac and some clarifications of instructions, should you need them: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2008-02/0174.shtml |
17:01:32 | gevaerts | Buschel: I don't know. I'll test and find out |
17:02:47 | kushal_one | If Daniel is correct, my c250 is not bricked ... a ray of hope ... |
17:03:49 | gevaerts | kushal_one: As far as we know, it's impossible to really brick a c250 without physically damaging it. |
17:04:01 | rasher | There's nothing indicating it is. You've merely rendered it unable to get past manufacturer mode |
17:04:53 | Buschel | gevaerts: and what about REG_USBMODE? there is some USBMODE_CTRL_MODE_IDLE defined for this register? |
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17:05:54 | kushal_one | I am flipping through the thread and I will ask questions here if i find something too hard for me. thank you very much. i feel lighter already |
17:05:55 | Nico_P | amiconn: have you tried Lear's FLAC fix? |
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17:06:52 | gevaerts | Buschel: yes. you could try that one as well. |
17:08:54 | kushal_one | found it at barrywardell.net/rockbox/e200tool-mac">http://download.barrywardell.net/rockbox/e200tool-mac now all I need are the instructions to work it |
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17:09:13 | gevaerts | Buschel: The spec says that you have to reset it before you change USB_MODE. |
17:09:19 | JamPSi | Ok, now my sansa reboots ok when I plug the cable :) |
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17:11:31 | krazykit | kushal_one, those instructions are on the SansaE200Unbrick page. you need to go through manufacture mode then into recovery mode. |
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17:15:07 | gevaerts | linuxstb: can you see anything about r16374 that could explain a windows BSOD when plugging in an ipod ? |
17:15:18 | kushal_one | why does quicktime want to open the binary file? Do I need to rename the extension or something? |
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17:16:59 | krazykit | kushal_one, you should be running it from Terminal |
17:17:59 | kushal_one | how? I have no idea, I used google desktop to open terminal and I came up with the command prompt. please help me . |
17:18:23 | krazykit | this is explained in the mailing list thread i linked to you. |
17:18:37 | kushal_one | the window says terminal - bash - 80 x 24 |
17:18:55 | kushal_one | * 80x24 |
17:19:50 | krazykit | did you download the e200tool file to your desktop? If so, you'll need to "cd Desktop" before you can execute e200tool commands |
17:23:27 | kushal_one | terminal says I am in desktop now. what is next? |
17:23:49 | krazykit | have you downloaded the files the wiki page says you need? they're also linked in the mailing list thread. |
17:23:56 | kushal_one | not yet |
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17:27:20 | kushal_one | I cannot find them |
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17:29:00 | Benjamin_L | how do I view my current PATH on linux? |
17:29:28 | Benjamin_L | better how do I add something without removing the currenz |
17:29:44 | kushal_one | could you link me to the download page please? |
17:30:01 | krazykit | kushal_one, then you're not looking very hard. please read the mailing list thread i linked you to. I put a link near the end to that download page. |
17:30:02 | rasher | Benjamin_L: echo $PATH |
17:30:12 | Benjamin_L | ok was too easy :) |
17:30:18 | rasher | Benjamin_L: To add to it, export PATH=/path/to/add:$PATH |
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17:32:01 | gevaerts | Buschel: Is it possible to set the boost speed to 60MHz ? I'd like to do some experiments... |
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17:34:11 | Buschel | gevaerts: replace PLL_CONTROL = 0x8a121403; with PLL_CONTROL = 0x8a120f03; in system-pp502x.c |
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17:41:31 | Buschel_ | gevaerts: can you check what REG_USBCMD, REG_PORTSC1 and REG_USBMODE are set by default after startup and after attaching USB? |
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17:42:16 | kushal_one | you mentioned that I need BL_SD_boardSupportSD.rom in http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2008-02/0181.shtml I am at a loss to find the link to it ... although now I found the instructions at http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2008-02/0192.shtml |
17:43:13 | krazykit | http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html |
17:43:22 | krazykit | two messages in the future |
17:43:54 | gevaerts | kushal_one: on c250 you'll need pribootLoader.rom instead. |
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17:44:16 | gevaerts | Buschel_: working on it. |
17:44:57 | kushal_one | is this the file that i need? http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/c200/firmware.mi4 |
17:45:41 | rasher | I believe it is http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/c200/pribootLoader.rom but don't take my word for it |
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17:45:57 | gevaerts | kushal_one: no, although you'll need it later. You need http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/c200/pribootLoader.rom for e200tool |
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17:46:52 | krazykit | kushal_one, but you'll want the firmware.mi4 file for recovery mode when you get there. |
17:47:18 | kushal_one | I downloaded them both and put them in desktop. |
17:48:52 | kushal_one | I made sure the power on the device is off and the hold is off too. |
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17:52:29 | gevaerts | Buschel : http://pastebin.ca/916417 |
17:53:30 | kushal_one | So the command is ./e200tool-mac recover pribootloader.rom , right? |
17:53:47 | gevaerts | kushal_one: yes |
17:53:58 | kushal_one | thanks |
17:54:05 | kushal_one | I will let you know what happens |
17:54:38 | kushal_one | terminal says "permission denied" |
17:54:56 | kushal_one | do I need to be root or sudo for it to run? |
17:55:02 | krazykit | kushal_one, do "chmod +x e200tool-mac" then run it with sudo |
17:55:02 | gevaerts | kushal_one: run "chmod +x e200tool-mac", and then try again |
17:56:36 | kushal_one | something happened! |
17:56:39 | kushal_one | e200tool v0.2.3-alpha (c) by MrH 2006, 2007 |
17:56:39 | kushal_one | Searching for device 0781:0720 ... found! |
17:56:39 | kushal_one | Initializing USB stub (4780 bytes) ... done! |
17:56:39 | DBUG | Sent KICK kushal_one to server |
17:56:39 | kushal_one | Writing 'pribootloader.rom' to address 0x10600000 |
17:56:39 | kushal_one | Searching for device 6666:e200 ... 9 found! |
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17:56:50 | kushal_one | Execution started! |
17:56:52 | kushal_one | ingles-Computer-2:~/desktop kripahada$ |
17:57:10 | kushal_one | then the display showed a lock icon for some time |
17:57:23 | kushal_one | could you tell me what next? |
17:58:03 | krazykit | kushal_one, please don't paste like that again, but that was manufacturing mode. but you need to get into recovery mode |
17:58:13 | kushal_one | sorry |
17:58:27 | gevaerts | kushal_one: did a drive icon appear ? |
17:58:40 | kushal_one | no |
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17:58:57 | kushal_one | but on the player I saw a lock icon before it turned off |
17:59:11 | kushal_one | it turned off by itslef |
17:59:16 | kushal_one | * itself |
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18:01:46 | gevaerts | kushal_one: I think you have to switch off the hold at some point. Actually, if it starts in manufacturing mode, you probably don't need to turn on hold in the first plave |
18:02:44 | kushal_one | holding the record button does dot set it to recovery mode |
18:03:20 | kushal_one | switch off the hold? |
18:03:23 | kushal_one | ok |
18:03:47 | gevaerts | kushal_one: If you just start it, does it still only light up the blue leds ? If so, start it without any buttons pressed, plug it in, and run e200tool. e200tool should put it in recovery mode. |
18:04:19 | kushal_one | gevaerts, it is off now |
18:04:43 | kushal_one | do I need to switch the hold switch on or off? |
18:05:00 | gevaerts | kushal_one: turn it on with the hold switch off |
18:05:06 | kushal_one | ok |
18:06:30 | gevaerts | If it just shows the blue button backlight, plug it in and run e200tool like before. |
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18:09:25 | kushal_one | ok |
18:11:22 | gevaerts | kushal_one: then it should be in recovery mode |
18:11:59 | kushal_one | no it is just the blue ring |
18:12:16 | gevaerts | kushal_one: run e200tool |
18:12:19 | kushal_one | ok |
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18:16:09 | gevaerts | kushal_one: did anything happen ? |
18:16:50 | kushal_one | same thing happened. the sandisk logo came up, the lock icon came up, and then it turned off |
18:17:13 | gevaerts | kushal_one: turn hold _off_ |
18:17:56 | kushal_one | I turned hold off after the display turned off |
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18:18:49 | gevaerts | kushal_one: turn the sansa on without hold, if the blue ring show plug it in, and then run e200tool. That should put you nin recovery mode. |
18:19:08 | gevaerts | If it doesn't, that means you're not following the instructions somehow |
18:19:24 | kushal_one | should I turn hold off before I execute ./e200tool-mac recover pribootloader.rom |
18:19:27 | kushal_one | ? |
18:19:37 | gevaerts | kushal_one: yes |
18:19:43 | kushal_one | oo sorry |
18:20:56 | kushal_one | let me try again |
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18:23:22 | kushal_one | yes some command appeared |
18:23:38 | gevaerts | kushal_one: do you get a disk icon ? |
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18:23:58 | kushal_one | on the desktop? no, I did not |
18:24:21 | gevaerts | kushal_one: so does anything appear on the sansa screen ? |
18:24:29 | kushal_one | yes |
18:24:31 | kushal_one | it says |
18:24:37 | kushal_one | Load main image fai |
18:24:52 | kushal_one | Switch to Rovery |
18:25:12 | kushal_one | Mini-B->Device Mode |
18:25:21 | kushal_one | USB2.0 MSD |
18:25:37 | kushal_one | LUN0 locked |
18:25:41 | gevaerts | kushal_one: It should show a disk icon then. |
18:26:09 | kushal_one | there is not that icon |
18:26:22 | gevaerts | kushal_one: I don't have a mac, so I'm not sure how that part works, but at least the sansa is behaving as it should. |
18:26:41 | kushal_one | now should I run recovery mode/ |
18:27:14 | kushal_one | Should I run recovery mode? |
18:27:16 | gevaerts | kushal_one: it is in recovery mode. |
18:27:38 | kushal_one | when should I press the record button? |
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18:28:49 | gevaerts | kushal_one: that's only needed to start recovery mode without e200tool |
18:28:50 | barrywardell | kushal_one, gevaerts: sometimes recovery mode doesn't work on mac |
18:29:15 | barrywardell | it works for me now on leopard, but didn't in the past on tiger |
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18:30:58 | kushal_one | I have tiger 10.4.11 |
18:31:45 | asdrubal | my main flash disk on my sansa c200 is constantly getting corrupted |
18:32:24 | kushal_one | What should I do next? |
18:32:30 | gevaerts | asdrubal: do you unmount it properly before unplugging ? |
18:32:42 | barrywardell | kushal_one: In that case you might be better to try using e200tool on either linux or osx leopard |
18:32:49 | asdrubal | gevaerts, yeah |
18:33:10 | kushal_one | Leopard? hmm ... |
18:33:14 | asdrubal | gevaerts, I don't think it likes having less than 100MB free |
18:33:14 | barrywardell | kushal_one: if you have access to either. one option for linux would be to use something like knoppix |
18:33:32 | kushal_one | does it run on a macbook? |
18:33:50 | gevaerts | asdrubal: do you use the database or something else that would write data while running rockbox ? |
18:33:51 | kushal_one | live version would be better |
18:34:35 | rasher | gevaerts, asdrubal: I didn't have much free space when I got corruption earlier on my sdhc card |
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18:35:22 | barrywardell | kushal_one: yes, I think knoppix or ubuntu live should run on a macbook. not 100% sure though |
18:35:54 | kushal_one | let me google it |
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18:36:04 | gevaerts | rasher, asdrubal: that would point to a bug in the fat driver. I'll let someone else handle that |
18:36:05 | * | barrywardell has to reboot. brb |
18:36:08 | crzyboyster | What does everyone think of allowing the user to define the background color of the splashscreen? And setting a default? |
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18:36:36 | rasher | crzyboyster: not reasonable. Would mean that the disk would have to be ready before the splash can be shown |
18:37:03 | crzyboyster | Just changing the background color. Isn't the current blue defined somewhere? |
18:37:26 | crzyboyster | OK, cut the idea of letting the user define it. What if we set up a new default for it? |
18:37:36 | asdrubal | I want a goatse splash screen. HEH |
18:37:43 | gevaerts | crzyboyster: what's wrong with the current one ? |
18:37:46 | rasher | crzyboyster: You'd still have to store and retrieve the user's desiered background color, which means loading from disk. |
18:38:36 | crzyboyster | People started talking about it at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10030.msg116208#msg116208 and what about not letting the user define it, but to just make it "transparent"? |
18:38:47 | crzyboyster | (Like in that screenshot) |
18:39:38 | gevaerts | crzyboyster: dark backgrounds look very bad on a c200... |
18:39:50 | rasher | crzyboyster: that would mean loading the backdrop from disk.. |
18:40:10 | rasher | The bootloader cannot be customisable. |
18:40:29 | crzyboyster | Sigh... never mind. and gevaerts, how does the cabbiev2 theme look overall on the c200? |
18:42:18 | kushal_one | is it a dead end for me for now? |
18:42:25 | gevaerts | crzyboyster: If I set my contrast and brightness settings just right, it's reasonable (I don't really like it myself, but that's a matter of taste), although the font is ugly at that size |
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18:43:33 | gevaerts | kushal_one: I'd say your best bet is to either use a linux live cd, or find someone who runs linux |
18:43:58 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
18:44:04 | kushal_one | hm ... |
18:44:05 | gevaerts | kushal_one: or find someone who runs leopard |
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18:44:25 | kushal_one | i might have an easier time finding someone who uses leopard |
18:44:57 | kushal_one | Do I need to go through the process from beginning? |
18:45:06 | kushal_one | on a leopard? |
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18:45:35 | krazykit | yes, but it should be easier now that you have some idea of what to do. |
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18:45:59 | kushal_one | thank you very much. |
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18:54:20 | kushal_one | I opened disk utility and I can see 16 MB sansa disk here, but the instructions say I should NOT format it, what should I do? according to the disk utility the partition scheme is "unformatted" |
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18:56:12 | gevaerts | kushal_one: is there an option to mount it ? |
18:57:16 | kushal_one | no, I can only eject it but not mount it |
18:58:14 | kushal_one | if it helps, the Total Capacity : 16.0 MB (16,777,728 Bytes) |
18:58:50 | rasher | You really should mount it, and I believe you should upload a firmware to it |
18:59:15 | kushal_one | the mi4 file, yes. but it does not show in finder since it is not mounted |
18:59:38 | rasher | Which is why I'm telling you you need to mount it (manually, probably) |
18:59:48 | kushal_one | using terminal? |
18:59:53 | rasher | Yeah |
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19:00:03 | kushal_one | oh |
19:00:53 | gevaerts | kushal_one: does the disk utility show something like "/dev/disk?" somewhere ? |
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19:02:00 | smartmind | good evening |
19:02:06 | smartmind | i have a problem with my h320 |
19:02:29 | smartmind | im not quite sure whether its by rockbox or my iriver |
19:02:40 | smartmind | but i hope someone already heard of something like this: |
19:02:57 | smartmind | everything was fine with the playback time |
19:03:05 | kushal_one | No, it does not show that. but it identifies it correctly as Name : SanDisk Sansa C200 Media |
19:03:06 | smartmind | if i charged it fully it ran for hours |
19:03:14 | smartmind | but then |
19:03:18 | smartmind | from one day to another |
19:03:24 | smartmind | (didnt realy change something..) |
19:03:40 | smartmind | the player is draining energy also when i turn it off |
19:03:41 | smartmind | means |
19:03:55 | smartmind | i charge it a 7:00 untill its full |
19:04:00 | smartmind | turn it off |
19:04:15 | smartmind | turn it on at 15:00 and its nearby empty |
19:04:30 | smartmind | a day later it even doesnt start |
19:04:36 | barrywardell | gevaerts: I've been doing a bit of testing of the USB stuff and have a couple of comments, not sure how much help they will be: |
19:04:55 | smartmind | have you ever heard of something like that? or do you have any suggestions what i could try ..? |
19:05:00 | barrywardell | 1) H10 appears as drive, e280 as removable storage - could windows treating them differently be a problem? |
19:05:00 | barrywardell | 2) Windows is a lot more unstable with e280, totally stable with H10 |
19:05:00 | barrywardell | 3) e200 takes about 50% longer to copy file to device |
19:05:01 | DBUG | Sent KICK barrywardell to server |
19:05:01 | barrywardell | 4) Copied a 350MB file over and back twice with md5's matching both on e280 and H10 |
19:05:01 | barrywardell | 5) Removing udelay(2) from ata-c200_e200.c makes Windows not show the e200's drive at all |
19:05:01 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
19:05:01 | DBUG | sent MODE #rockbox +b *!*n=barryw*@194.46.160.* |
19:05:01 | barrywardell | 6) Not a big deal, but both H10 and e200 appear as "Rockbox Media Player". Maybe they should be different? |
19:05:01 | Kick | (#rockbox barrywardell :No flooding!) by logbot!n=bjst@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-81a6e41ab8c04a25 |
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19:05:02 | Warn | Banlist contains 18 bans! |
19:05:32 | rasher | Great |
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19:06:17 | rasher | This is why we need more ops around. |
19:06:56 | rasher | amiconn: could you unban barrywardell? |
19:08:36 | * | midgey chuckles |
19:09:46 | smartmind | anyone any suggestions for my problem? |
19:09:54 | smartmind | already found a thread on rockbox.org forum |
19:09:57 | smartmind | but no answers |
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19:10:47 | kushal_one | welcome back, wardellbarry |
19:10:49 | midgey | smartmind: you're battery is probably dying |
19:10:58 | midgey | s/you're/your |
19:11:01 | smartmind | from one day to another? |
19:11:10 | * | smartmind needs a medic for his iriver |
19:11:14 | wardellbarry | I blame my irc client! I didn't mean to do that |
19:11:28 | gevaerts | kushal_one: can you do "ls /dev/disk*" ? |
19:11:33 | soap | no - logbot has gotten stricter it seems. |
19:12:00 | kushal_one | l as in lion? |
19:12:03 | kushal_one | oh ok |
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19:12:58 | kushal_one | I hope I don't get kicked again |
19:13:04 | JdGordon | linuxstb: what needs to be done to your viewports+wps patch to get it commitable? ive got some time today... |
19:13:06 | kushal_one | the result is "/dev/disk0 /dev/disk0s1 /dev/disk0s2 /dev/disk1" |
19:13:17 | kushal_one | yes, I was not kicked! |
19:13:34 | smartmind | i still do have guarantee on my iriver |
19:13:39 | smartmind | but i installed rockbox |
19:13:52 | smartmind | i should reinstall the original firmware |
19:13:57 | smartmind | before sending it back |
19:13:58 | smartmind | right? |
19:14:10 | gevaerts | kushal_one: try doing the following : "mkdir /tmp/sansa", then "mount -t msdos /dev/disk1 /tmp/sansa" |
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19:14:33 | kushal_one | ok |
19:15:02 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
19:15:18 | soap | smartmind - you should stop using the "Enter" key as a replacement for the space-bar. logbot has an itchy trigger finger, and seems quite willing to not only kick - but also ban those who are incapable of writing single long lines instead of flooding the channel with lots of five word lines, |
19:16:09 | gevaerts | barrywardell: 1) might be worth looking into. You can tweak this near the end of usb_storage.c. 4) and 5) show that c200 and e200 have different sd driver behaviour. 6) I don't have an opinion |
19:16:11 | kushal_one | when I ran the first command, this appeared in the player "LUN0 locked" |
19:16:21 | krazykit | that's normal. |
19:16:24 | soap | But, yes, to directly answer your question smartmind, you should remove all traces of Rockbox before sending your unit back to iRiver for warranty work, iRiver stands out in my memory above all others for being jerks about suspected Rockbox installs. |
19:17:05 | * | Nico_P is about to close FS #8631 as invalid... any objections? |
19:17:12 | kushal_one | i am moving to the second command |
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19:17:40 | smartmind | oh, didnt know its unappreciatet, im sorry, but could someone answer my question please |
19:17:48 | * | smartmind ' s begging |
19:17:56 | gevaerts | kushal_one: after those, run "df /tmp/sansa", and show us the result (should be one line) |
19:18:22 | kushal_one | the second command needs to be as root |
19:18:43 | rasher | Nico_P: I'd say invalid as well |
19:18:44 | JdGordon | Nico_P: go for it |
19:18:53 | bluebrother | Nico_P: why not as "later"? If he wants to give that code out that's fine |
19:18:55 | kushal_one | terminal says "you must be running as root to load modules into the kernel |
19:18:55 | kushal_one | mount_msdos: msdos filesystem is not available |
19:18:55 | kushal_one | " |
19:18:55 | gevaerts | kushal_one: could be. Try "sudo mount -t msdos /dev/disk1 /tmp/sansa" |
19:19:12 | bluebrother | and maybe we'll get an emulator plugin one day. Then we could use it. |
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19:19:38 | bluebrother | shouldn't the filesystem be vfat? |
19:19:57 | midgey | i think the ti-basic code is more suited for a site like ticalc.org rather than our tracker |
19:20:00 | kushal_one | the result was kextload: /System/Library/Extensions/msdosfs.kext loaded successfully |
19:20:08 | rasher | bluebrother: The code will still be in the tracker anyway |
19:20:23 | kushal_one | moving to third command |
19:20:40 | rasher | But at this point, I really think the task is "invalid", as it's not useful in any way for current Rockbox |
19:20:59 | rasher | But be nice in the close message :) |
19:21:07 | kushal_one | Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on |
19:21:07 | kushal_one | /dev/disk1 31264 24 31240 0% /private/tmp/sansa |
19:21:11 | gevaerts | <bluebrother> shouldn't the filesystem be vfat? |
19:21:11 | gevaerts | <bluebrother> shouldn't the filesystem be vfat? |
19:21:11 | bluebrother | rasher: yep, I know. I'm just not sure if it's an invalid task ... otoh, it doesn't tell what he really expects. |
19:21:38 | bluebrother | gevaerts: ? |
19:21:50 | gevaerts | bluebrother: mouse handling error. Sorry |
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19:22:10 | Nico_P | bluebrother: he seems to be expecting someone to port his code |
19:22:11 | rasher | kushal_one: that looks correct |
19:22:18 | bluebrother | ah, ok. Was just surprised a bit ;-) |
19:22:32 | gevaerts | kushal_one: if you are still in Desktop, now "sudo cp firmware.mi4 pribootLoader.rom /tmp/sansa" |
19:23:13 | kushal_one | that did not seem to do anything |
19:23:24 | Nico_P | A TI-BASIC interpreter sounds like a nice project, but TI calcs have a shitload of math functions that would need to be written |
19:23:34 | kushal_one | did not even ask for password |
19:23:35 | gevaerts | kushal_one: now "ls /tmp/sansa". That should show those two files |
19:24:15 | kushal_one | yes you are a genius, here is the result: firmware.mi4 pribootLoader.rom |
19:24:49 | gevaerts | kushal_one: now "umount /dev/disk1" |
19:25:00 | gevaerts | kushal_one: or "sudo umount /dev/disk1" |
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19:25:39 | smartmind | btw, is albumart already added to rockbox? |
19:25:43 | kushal_one | when I did not sudo it said "operation not permitted" |
19:25:46 | Nico_P | smartmind: yes it is |
19:26:12 | kushal_one | it did not show any result but I think it worked |
19:26:15 | gevaerts | kushal_one: yes. I forgot... After that one, unplug the sansa |
19:26:31 | Munkie | hello everyone. will we ever be able to control the video processing chip on the ipod video? |
19:26:44 | kushal_one | like unplug it physically? I don't mean to be annoying just wanted to make sure |
19:26:57 | krazykit | Munkie, sure, if someone figures out the hardware. i wouldn't hold your breath, though. |
19:26:59 | Nico_P | Munkie: only if someone figures it out. there is no doc available |
19:27:02 | gevaerts | kushal_one: yes. Unplug the cable. |
19:27:11 | kushal_one | thanks ... unplugging ... |
19:27:41 | Munkie | oh bugger. cos that will be awsum! would it be able to be used for other functions? or only video processing? |
19:28:06 | kushal_one | something came up that I could not read and then it said "resetting [some text I could not read]" and then display turned off and I got the blue ring back |
19:28:17 | kushal_one | only the blue ring |
19:28:27 | kushal_one | What should I do next? |
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19:29:42 | _saiko | hi all |
19:29:47 | _saiko | a question |
19:30:15 | gevaerts | kushal_one: try downloading the header.txt file that's next to the firmware.mi4 and pribootLoader.rom files (same site), and redoing everything, but the cp step has to be "sudo cp firmware.mi4 pribootLoader.rom header.txt /tmp/sansa" instead. |
19:30:18 | _saiko | iaudio x5 after upgradig to rockbox ... does it have media library browsing or it's still browsing through local folders ? |
19:30:28 | * | gevaerts goes to have dinner now |
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19:30:52 | krazykit | _saiko, i think what you want is the database. the manual will have more information. |
19:31:23 | _saiko | yes a database that gets created from reading tags |
19:32:21 | _saiko | ah |
19:32:28 | _saiko | seems it supports both! |
19:32:41 | kushal_one | does this look correct? http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/c200/header.txt |
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19:33:06 | kushal_one | where do I start? |
19:33:23 | _saiko | i started to get interested in x5 since it supports flac and it's NOT using MTP or some propietary access .... |
19:33:39 | _saiko | but the problem is ... how to get x5 now :/ |
19:33:44 | _saiko | no production anymore |
19:34:40 | kushal_one | should I restart with manufacturing mode? |
19:34:55 | krazykit | _saiko, ebay may have some, but that's hit-or-miss. |
19:35:16 | _saiko | krazykit: what about that announced X7 ? |
19:35:24 | _saiko | was that actually 7 ? |
19:35:53 | bluebrother | that's the usual problem if you want to get a Rockbox capable player ... unfortunately |
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19:36:20 | krazykit | _saiko, i don't know, but it certainly isn't supported by rockbox |
19:37:10 | _saiko | indeed ... |
19:37:58 | _saiko | damn i need some ~60GB player capable of playing flac and that uses database + it's not MTP -.- |
19:38:51 | krazykit | _saiko, check out the BuyersGuide page |
19:39:09 | krazykit | wiki page, i mean |
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19:45:12 | Neskaya | gt 75 |
19:51:36 | gevaerts | kushal_one: plug in the device (the blue ring means it is already in manufacturing mode), and run e200tool as before |
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19:52:26 | kushal_one | ok so I will turn hold on, press the middle button, and plug it in, right? |
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19:53:42 | gevaerts | kushal_one: yes. Then turn hold off, and then run e200tool as before |
19:54:29 | kushal_one | thanks |
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19:56:51 | gevaerts | kushal_one: That should put the sansa in recovery mode. Once it show something like Mini-B Device Mode, or LUN0 unlocked, type:"sudo mount -t msdos /dev/disk1 /tmp/sansa" |
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19:56:55 | kushal_one | I ran chmod +x e200tool-mac and I am running ./e200tool-mac recover pribootloader.rom |
19:58:00 | kushal_one | it says LUN0 locked |
19:58:25 | gevaerts | kushal_one: OK. Then the "sudo mount -t msdos /dev/disk1 /tmp/sansa" command |
19:58:36 | kushal_one | ok |
19:58:59 | billenium | i just installed rockbox (on linux) bootloader and I restarted my iPod and now it says "Use Itunes to restore" in four different langauges including english. |
19:58:59 | gevaerts | kushal_one: Now "sudo cp firmware.mi4 pribootLoader.rom header.txt /tmp/sansa" |
19:59:31 | kushal_one | ok done |
19:59:33 | gevaerts | kushal_one: Then (maybe not needed, but anyway) : "sudo touch /tmp/sansa/sansa.fmt" |
19:59:54 | kushal_one | done |
20:00 |
20:00:08 | gevaerts | then "sudo umount /dev/disk1" |
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20:00:30 | gevaerts | kushal_one: Does the screen show anything ? |
20:00:33 | kushal_one | done |
20:00:57 | kushal_one | nothing new |
20:01:08 | kushal_one | the same thing stayed |
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20:01:49 | gevaerts | kushal_one: Try "hdiutil detach /dev/disk1". I'm not sure if it will work or is needed, but anyway |
20:02:14 | billenium | heh... debian users |
20:02:22 | billenium | /ubuntu? |
20:02:30 | kushal_one | result on console |
20:02:31 | kushal_one | "disk1" unmounted. |
20:02:31 | kushal_one | "disk1" ejected. |
20:02:55 | gevaerts | kushal_one: now unplug the cable. It should say things about updating the firmware |
20:02:57 | kushal_one | result o sandisk screen: LUN0 unlocked LUN0 ejected |
20:03:10 | kushal_one | result on sandisk screen: LUN0 unlocked LUN0 ejected |
20:03:11 | kushal_one | ok |
20:03:46 | kushal_one | yes it did |
20:03:53 | krazykit | billenium, there is a manual restore method for linux on the wiki, linked from the ipod wiki page. |
20:04:00 | kushal_one | but it is back to the blue ring |
20:04:17 | kushal_one | what should I do next? |
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20:05:25 | gevaerts | kushal_one: I think it will need stronger measures. I think I know how to solve this (I've had a similar problem myself), but it will require a special tool. I can compile it for linux, but not for macos. |
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20:06:05 | JdGordon | gevaerts: you need access to an osx box? |
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20:07:02 | billenium | yeah i found it |
20:07:06 | billenium | i had to unbootloader it first :) |
20:07:15 | billenium | Do i have to put the bootloader on first? or the .rockbox folder? |
20:07:41 | krazykit | billenium, you're essentially wiping the disk clean, so it doesn't matter |
20:07:52 | gevaerts | JdGordon: maybe. The easiest would be if someone who has compiled rockbox stuff on osx before would do it, but access would work as well. This problem should be solvable with my e200rpatcher based repair tool |
20:08:19 | JdGordon | what you need compiled? |
20:08:21 | billenium | oh no |
20:08:25 | billenium | i mean when im reinstalling it :) |
20:08:52 | gevaerts | JdGordon: basically e200rbatcher, with a custom bootloader.bin that I can put somewhere |
20:08:56 | krazykit | billenium, if you go through the manual recovery, you have a blank ipod, so you'll have to install the bootloader and build like normal |
20:09:33 | JdGordon | gevaerts: ok, put em up somehwere and ill compile em for ya |
20:09:34 | billenium | er well my questions was just which one to put on first.... |
20:09:39 | billenium | but umm thanks |
20:09:54 | krazykit | billenium, read the installation instructions, obviously :P |
20:10:23 | billenium | i did :P and i received a restore error... |
20:10:26 | billenium | name im trying it again |
20:10:46 | gevaerts | JdGordon: the file is at gevaerts/bootloader.bin">http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/bootloader.bin |
20:11:39 | JdGordon | and unpatched e200rinstaller? |
20:11:51 | gevaerts | JdGordon: If you put that in rbutil/e200rpatcher, and then run make there, it should work |
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20:12:37 | billenium | Was rockbox updated lately? Because its not the plain Black and Blue |
20:12:50 | gevaerts | JdGordon: the c200 in manufacturer mode is recognized by the default e200rpatcher |
20:13:06 | Horscht | billenium, yes, default theme was changed |
20:13:15 | billenium | cool |
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20:13:21 | billenium | Default theme is great now :) |
20:15:03 | * | gevaerts should really put this "how to recover your sansa if the partition table is gone" on the wiki |
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20:16:20 | JdGordon | gevaerts: pm me an email addy to send it to |
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20:17:27 | wardellbarry | gevaerts: usb-fw-pp502x.c looks wrong to me around line 190. going from pp experience I think there should be a DEV_RS |= DEV_USB0/1 in there too. I've tried adding it but can't tell if it makes a difference |
20:17:56 | wardellbarry | gevaerts: also, why is DEV_INIT2 |= INIT_USB; only done for PP5020? |
20:18:24 | gevaerts | wardellbarry: I can't say much about this. It's from before I started. |
20:18:41 | Buschel | wardellbarry: that was a chango by myself. DEV_INIT2 is not needed by PP5022/24 (by test). |
20:18:50 | Buschel | *change |
20:19:21 | wardellbarry | Buschel: an it is needed by PP5020? How did you test that it was not needed? |
20:20:23 | Buschel | wardellbarry: this was before the USB-stack was implemented -> pp5022/24 did not need DEV_INIT2 for USB-detect and reboot into OF. PP5020 needed it. |
20:21:44 | gevaerts | kushal_one: download gevaerts/c250repair">http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/c250repair |
20:22:01 | kushal_one | ok |
20:22:18 | * | Buschel is leaving for a while |
20:22:32 | gevaerts | kushal_one: then run "chmod +x c250repair" to make it executable |
20:22:38 | wardellbarry | Buschel: OK, thanks |
20:22:49 | kushal_one | ok |
20:23:22 | gevaerts | kushal_one: then put the sansa in manufacturer mode, plug it in, and turn off hold |
20:24:13 | gevaerts | kushal_one: then run "./c250repair". |
20:25:28 | kushal_one | I got a BUS error |
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20:26:28 | kushal_one | the complete transcript follows: |
20:26:30 | kushal_one | sansapatcher v0.6 with v4.0 bootloaders - (C) Dave Chapman 2006-2007 |
20:26:30 | kushal_one | This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO |
20:26:30 | kushal_one | warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. |
20:26:30 | DBUG | Sent KICK kushal_one to server |
20:26:30 | kushal_one | Bus error |
20:26:30 | Kick | (#rockbox kushal_one :No flooding!) by logbot!n=bjst@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-81a6e41ab8c04a25 |
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20:27:19 | gevaerts | kushal_one: quick tip: if you have several lines to paste, use a pasting service like http://pastebin.ca/ |
20:27:33 | kushal_one | thanks |
20:27:55 | gevaerts | JdGordon: Did you build this in e200rpatcher or in sansapatcher ? |
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20:28:13 | JdGordon | arg.. sorry im still aslee[p |
20:28:21 | JdGordon | sansapatcher |
20:28:53 | JdGordon | grr... no libusb-dev on that comp |
20:28:59 | kushal_one | http://pastebin.ca/916559 |
20:29:25 | gevaerts | JdGordon: I think it needs e200rpatcher, since it works by uploading code. |
20:29:25 | * | JdGordon decides not to be useful again |
20:29:58 | * | wardellbarry can build it |
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20:30:28 | gevaerts | wardellbarry: great. I need a e200rpatcher, with bootloader.bin from gevaerts/bootloader.bin">http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/bootloader.bin |
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20:31:20 | * | JdGordon apologises for being stupid |
20:31:26 | gevaerts | wardellbarry: this "bootloader" writes a new partition table and FAT boot block |
20:31:52 | * | gevaerts still appreciates JdGordon's effort |
20:33:06 | JdGordon | sent aagain! |
20:33:10 | * | JdGordon beats barry :D |
20:34:30 | wardellbarry | barrywardell.net/rockbox/c250repair">http://download.barrywardell.net/rockbox/c250repair |
20:34:58 | wardellbarry | JdGordon had a head start :P |
20:35:31 | JdGordon | I had to install libusb first though... |
20:35:33 | gevaerts | kushal_one: Remove the previous c250repair, and download barrywardell.net/rockbox/c250repair">http://download.barrywardell.net/rockbox/c250repair |
20:35:55 | kushal_one | remove from desktop? |
20:36:06 | gevaerts | kushal_one: yes. |
20:36:16 | kushal_one | ok, thanks |
20:36:47 | gevaerts | After downloading it, run "chmod +x c250repair" to make it executable |
20:37:09 | kushal_one | it 404ed on me |
20:37:11 | kushal_one | :( |
20:37:44 | gevaerts | kushal_one: then try the new one at gevaerts/c250repair">http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/c250repair |
20:37:54 | gevaerts | kushal_one: same URL as before, but new file |
20:38:05 | kushal_one | ok |
20:38:40 | gevaerts | OK. Then the chmod -x thing, and if the sansa is still plugged in and blue, "./c250repair" |
20:38:40 | wardellbarry | oops, should have been barrywardell.net/rockbox/c250repair-mac">http://download.barrywardell.net/rockbox/c250repair-mac |
20:40:33 | gevaerts | kushal_one: if everything works right, the sansa screen should show some output. |
20:40:40 | kushal_one | sudo? |
20:41:16 | kushal_one | should I do sudo ./c250repair |
20:41:26 | gevaerts | kushal_one: maybe. It can't hurt anyway |
20:42:01 | kushal_one | without sudo "permission denied' with sudo "command not found" |
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20:42:20 | gevaerts | kushal_one: did you run "chmod +x c250repair" first ? |
20:44:00 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
20:44:48 | kushal_one | http://pastebin.ca/916576 |
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20:45:25 | gevaerts | kushal_one: then download barrywardell's binary : barrywardell.net/rockbox/c250repair-mac">http://download.barrywardell.net/rockbox/c250repair-mac |
20:46:28 | gevaerts | kushal_one: then "chmod -x c250repair-mac" and "sudo ./c250repair-mac" |
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20:46:47 | netmasta10bt | how do i clear a playlist |
20:47:43 | JdGordon | just stop the mnusic |
20:47:47 | kushal_one | sudo: ./c250repair-mac: command not found |
20:48:13 | wardellbarry | kushal_one: that should have been "chmod +x c250repair-mac" and "sudo ./c250repair-mac" |
20:48:17 | gevaerts | kushal_one: After "chmod -x c250repair-mac" ? |
20:48:35 | kushal_one | ok |
20:49:35 | kushal_one | it says press enter to continue |
20:49:43 | gevaerts | kushal_one: OK. press enter |
20:50:25 | gevaerts | kushal_one: I found a problem. It still won't work |
20:50:56 | gevaerts | wardellbarry: the binary contains "The requested URL /~<span class=nick_gevaerts>gevaerts</span>/bootloader.bin was not found on this server.<P>" instead of the bootloader... |
20:51:06 | kushal_one | i have not pressed enter yet |
20:51:17 | wardellbarry | haha, oops, I'll fix that |
20:51:41 | gevaerts | kushal_one: press control-C, and delete the c250repair-mac and c250repair files. Both are wrong in some way |
20:51:59 | * | gevaerts still doesn't know whether JdGordon or wardellbarry wins this contest |
20:52:03 | kushal_one | control-c? |
20:52:18 | gevaerts | kushal_one: press and hold the Ctrl-key, and press C |
20:52:38 | gevaerts | kushal_one: that will stop the running program in the terminal (the faulty c250repair-mac) |
20:53:04 | kushal_one | ok i think I have exited the program |
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20:53:41 | kushal_one | i sent the files to trash |
20:54:12 | asn | After majorly ruining my iPod partitions (seems like it wasn't as easy as just deleting all of them) and restoring them with iTunes, I'm presented with 3 mac partitions (when before that I only had 2). I can't mount them. What do I do with them?> |
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20:55:06 | gevaerts | kushal_one: ok, now let's wait for a new one... |
20:55:23 | wardellbarry | kushal_one, gevaerts: try it again: barrywardell.net/rockbox/c250repair-mac">http://download.barrywardell.net/rockbox/c250repair-mac |
20:56:23 | gevaerts | kushal_one: ok. Download it, run "chmod +x c250repair-mac", and then run "sudo ./c250repair-mac" |
20:56:41 | gevaerts | kushal_one: assuming the sansa is still plugged in and in manufaturer mode |
20:57:30 | kushal_one | thanks |
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20:58:09 | kushal_one | http://pastebin.ca/916591 |
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20:58:39 | gevaerts | kushal_one: does the sansa screen show anything ? |
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20:58:43 | kushal_one | it says "press any key to shutd" |
20:59:10 | gevaerts | kushal_one: ok. Unplug the cable and press a key on the sansa |
20:59:37 | kushal_one | it turned off |
20:59:44 | BHX | hey guys, great job with Rockbox... one problem though... i have a ipod80 and after updating to today's build it comes up with an error after the RBx slash screen ("Data abort at 0028878E (0)") |
20:59:45 | kushal_one | instantly |
20:59:49 | gevaerts | kushal_one: now it should be in a "normal" broken mode, so that restoring with e200tool will work |
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21:00:05 | kushal_one | :) ok lets try it |
21:00:33 | gevaerts | kushal_one: so: put it in manufacturer mode again, plug it in, turn off hold, and run "./e200tool-mac recover pribootloader.rom" |
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21:01:26 | kushal_one | don't I need header.txt? |
21:01:51 | wardellbarry | gevaerts: this is how I would guess usb-fw-pp502x.c should be: http://pastebin.ca/916596 What do you think? It's a bit subjective, but I think it makes things a little better for me |
21:01:57 | gevaerts | kushal_one: not yet. That's later |
21:02:14 | kushal_one | ok let me enter your command |
21:02:54 | kushal_one | the sansa display is on and it says ""connected"" |
21:03:08 | kushal_one | I can see "untitled" on desktop |
21:03:55 | kushal_one | gevaerts, I think it is working |
21:04:03 | gevaerts | kushal_one: can you check if this "untitled" disk is 16MB ? |
21:04:35 | kushal_one | no, :( it is 1.89 GB |
21:04:44 | gevaerts | wardellbarry: you're probably right, but I'm not sure about the 0x70000028 stuff, since I don't know what that is for. |
21:05:13 | gevaerts | kushal_one: What happens if you unplug? It might be recovered already somehow |
21:05:26 | wardellbarry | I'm not sure either but it's in the init, so I'm guessing it should probably be there |
21:05:26 | kushal_one | do I need to eject it? |
21:05:38 | gevaerts | kushal_one: that's always safer |
21:05:47 | kushal_one | ok, let me try |
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21:07:35 | kushal_one | can't load rockox.mi4 file not found |
21:08:29 | gevaerts | kushal_one: so the rockbox bootloader is still there. Turn it off, and turn it back on while holding the "|<<" key |
21:08:39 | kushal_one | ok |
21:09:37 | gevaerts | kushal_one: that should start the original firmware. Then you can reinstall rockbox, and everything should work |
21:10:03 | kushal_one | yes, it worked. thank you very much. you are great! |
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21:11:00 | kushal_one | thank you to wardellbarry, JdGordon and everyone else who helped too :) |
21:11:01 | saratoga | anyone know how you edit the project history page? |
21:11:13 | saratoga | i looked all through svn and couldn't find it |
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21:11:45 | BHX | Can anyone give me a hand? |
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21:11:50 | gevaerts | kushal_one: that should start the original firmware. Then you can reinstall rockbox, and everything should work |
21:11:59 | * | gevaerts pastes random text again... |
21:12:05 | gevaerts | kushal_one: you're welcome |
21:12:18 | wardellbarry | glad I could help |
21:12:26 | kushal_one | thank you wardellbarry |
21:12:39 | kushal_one | but especially thank you gevaerts |
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21:13:13 | kushal_one | have a nice day, bye |
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21:13:54 | gevaerts | I think maybe we do need a recovery tool that writes back a correct partition table and FAT. My tool is a bit single-minded, since it can only do one size |
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21:19:00 | gevaerts | wardellbarry: I'm now testing with your changes |
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21:24:02 | asn | After majorly ruining my iPod partitions (seems like it wasn't as easy as just deleting all of them) and restoring them with iTunes, I'm presented with 3 mac partitions (when before that I only had 2). I can't mount them. What do I do with them?> |
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21:26:42 | gevaerts | barrywardell: Your changes don't seem to harm anything, but they don't seem to improve things either. I'll experiment further tomorrow. |
21:26:53 | krazykit | asn, did you restore it on a mac? |
21:31:53 | wardellbarry | gevaerts: that was my experience too. I thought I experienced a little more reliability by |
21:32:01 | wardellbarry | but could have been imagining it |
21:33:10 | asn | krazykit: yes |
21:33:21 | asn | krazykit: the itunes was on an imac |
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21:34:09 | gevaerts | barrywardell: reliability was easier to see in the old days, when it worked or not. Now it's a matter of counting lines in the dmesg output. |
21:34:28 | krazykit | asn, check the wiki: it has instructions for converting your macpod to a winpod |
21:35:01 | asn | krazykit: thanks. |
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21:36:59 | wardellbarry | gevaerts: also, having rockbox identify itself as a disk rather than removable storage makes windows much less unstable - it doesn't stop explorer responding |
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21:39:00 | gevaerts | wardellbarry: that _is_ interesting. However, it's probably just caused by not yet implementing the removable-device related SCSI commands properly |
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21:40:25 | jhMikeS | what's with all the FPA error stuff trying to build any S bl or fw? They weren't there immediately after changing -mcpu to arm1136jf-s. |
21:41:16 | * | gevaerts has to go now. |
21:41:33 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: those errors mean you should rebuild your cross compiler |
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21:42:33 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: What made them show up after switching CPU models? I was able to build it before as 1136 and my cross compiler hasn't changed. |
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21:43:36 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: if it's not r16273 I don't know what it is |
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21:45:08 | jhMikeS | it says to objects that are built don't use FPA instructions but that the libs do |
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21:45:36 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: I didn't understand that |
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21:48:00 | jhMikeS | ERROR: /usr/local/arm-elf/lib/gcc/arm-elf/4.0.3/libgcc.a(_udivsi3.o) uses FPA instructions, whereas /home/user/rockbox/builds/gigabeat-s-b/bootloader/bootloader.elf does not |
21:48:35 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: I'm pretty sure you need to rebuild the arm cross compiler |
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21:49:49 | jhMikeS | did rockboxdev.sh trim the download size? I don't have much room on the VM and it took > 500MB before. |
21:50:10 | Nico_P | I couldn't tell you :/ |
21:50:30 | Nico_P | maybe revert r16273 locally |
21:51:40 | aliask | jhMikeS: If you still have the gcc source you could compile it manually after applying this patch: http://www.rockbox.org/gcc/rockbox-multilibs-arm-elf-gcc-4.0.3.diff |
21:52:04 | jhMikeS | Yeah, could revert for a test but I'm using arm11 instructions in another branch |
21:53:42 | aliask | (and the gcc source is only 31mb anyway) |
21:55:50 | jhMikeS | I don't still have it because I deleted it to make room. |
21:57:47 | aliask | jhMikeS: Is there a way to see if an interrupt has been triggered, and from what source? |
21:59:28 | jhMikeS | aliask. sure, see the section on the AVIC and it lists them. There's also FIQ code in SVN that uses one method to vector FIQs. |
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22:01:11 | jhMikeS | the pending H/L register are a bitmask and probabaly the better ones to use. also, the peripheral source register should also have a pending bit. |
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22:02:53 | aliask | Excellent. I'll take a look when I get a chance. |
22:02:58 | * | aliask is off to school |
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22:03:53 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: what are you working on for the S? |
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22:05:31 | jhMikeS | Nothing much ATM since I can't compile anything. :) I'm more planning a general strategy for interrupt based drivers that let the peripherals do all the work instead of the core (ie. keep the thread waiting, not polling). |
22:07:15 | Nico_P | nice. any ideas on how to get usb working? is it hard (I could try to get it going if it's not too hard)? |
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22:09:44 | jhMikeS | Not too much yet other that at least get the drv portion worked out. |
22:10:20 | Nico_P | yeah that's what I meant. If it's not too complicated I could try getting the driver going |
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22:11:49 | jhMikeS | Wouldn't the PP code be a basis? |
22:12:14 | Nico_P | I guess so |
22:14:04 | asdrubal | I want to travel to the future and get a 64GB microsd |
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22:18:06 | stripwax | asdrubal - best of luck with that |
22:19:55 | rasher | Apart from the problem with time travel, I think microsd (hc) stands a good chance of being standard for a long time |
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22:22:49 | jhMikeS | I think you'll have to exchange whatever money you have with the new world currency but you should probably make an interest-bearing investment now and then travel to the future. |
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22:24:48 | asdrubal | rasher, I know.. It's the perfect standard... the only thing that might prompt a change is the interface speed.. I think it's around 10MB/s for MicroSD |
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22:25:07 | asdrubal | jhMikeS, We should have 64GB microsd In 3 years |
22:25:30 | * | Llorean doesn't think this is actually #Rockbox material |
22:25:36 | asdrubal | nope. Sorry |
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22:55:21 | wardellbarry | any ops around who can unban me please? |
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22:57:36 | rasher | Llorean should be able |
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23:00:27 | Mode | "#rockbox -o Bagder " by Bagder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) |
23:01:01 | Llorean | I guess I am able to these days. How did you get banned? |
23:01:43 | wardellbarry | I accidentally posted 6 lines in rapid succession |
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23:02:16 | #>> | "got annoyed" by pixelma (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) |
23:02:19 | wardellbarry | around 19:05 in the logs |
23:02:39 | Nico_P | haha logbot seems to be sligthly on edge |
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23:03:26 | Llorean | Do we have a new logbot? Since when does it ban? |
23:04:05 | pixelma | it can ban since it was given op rights a few weeks ago |
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23:07:25 | rasher | It's doing a fairly good job actually |
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23:08:24 | barrywardell | ah, that's better! |
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23:08:58 | Horscht | can't logbot be given an exception list? |
23:09:14 | Horscht | "do not band the following people, please:" |
23:09:19 | barrywardell | thanks Bagder |
23:09:29 | Bagder | np! |
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23:10:25 | pixelma | I thought some could even use logbot to unban him but I couldn't figure out which parameters I would have to feed him with (how the ban was "defined") |
23:11:55 | Bagder | yes, iirc banlist shows some id that can be used |
23:13:26 | pixelma | I couldn't use banlist - from the other computer I was logged in earlier I got nothing and now I tried here got the answer that I "must be registered with PASS" first |
23:14:00 | Bagder | yes, most higher-level commands require that you authenticate first |
23:14:12 | pixelma | or "must register"... so I guess I didn't have the rights |
23:14:50 | Bagder | users are only recognized if they're joined on the network with a host mask already added to the user "account" |
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23:16:00 | pixelma | isn't that what I can see in brackets after the nick (in the text only logs)? |
23:16:19 | Bagder | that's the user's level, yes |
23:16:27 | petur | you need 50 |
23:16:36 | petur | for the kick/ban/unban |
23:16:47 | pixelma | yeah, and I think I read that unban was on "50"... |
23:16:56 | * | barrywardell wonders how he gets a rockbox developer host mask |
23:17:08 | Bagder | barrywardell: you poke scorche |
23:17:33 | * | barrywardell pokes scorche |
23:17:44 | petur | works great btw, when a spammer drops by and no ops are around... just nudge logbot a bit ;) |
23:17:53 | pixelma | banlist too |
23:18:08 | * | midgey pokes scorche too |
23:18:36 | * | Bagder joins in the poking for the fun of it |
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23:19:57 | pixelma | ok, wasn't "recognised" when joining earlier from the other box... logbot should have told me... :) |
23:20:13 | * | petur thinks gevaerts will want to poke scorche too |
23:20:29 | * | gevaerts poked scorche a few days ago |
23:20:52 | * | gevaerts pokes petur instead for no good reason |
23:20:59 | petur | Bagder: the frontpage still doesn't show gevaerts as full name |
23:21:01 | | Quit ender` (" "Religion is the opiate of the masses." -- Karl Marx "Winners don't do drugs." -- The FBI") |
23:21:04 | Bagder | I know |
23:21:17 | Bagder | I blame Zagor |
23:21:58 | * | pixelma thinks gevaerts just wants to up his "action" count ;) |
23:22:18 | * | petur already gave up on that :) |
23:22:52 | Horscht | .oO( wow, that was weird ) |
23:23:38 | * | Bagder will commit a username => realname mapping file and fix his script to use that |
23:29:35 | gevaerts | From what I've seen the sansa SD driver behaves differently on c200 than on e200. My c250 gets write errors while using usb if the udelay(2) is there in the write loop in ata-c200_e200.c, while e200 gets errors if it isn't there. I think we need to find out why. |
23:30:26 | gevaerts | We can of course just put an #ifdef around it, but I feel a bit nevous about that kind of timing issue |
23:31:33 | gevaerts | Actually, e200 gets errors too, but they're much rarer |
23:32:08 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: did you try issuing the PRG after sending all the data and then waiting for fifo empty? I can't think of a better reason atm. |
23:33:16 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: the errors are not near the end of the buffer, so I can't really see that helping |
23:35:36 | jhMikeS | I know but the sd hw itself may be doing something internally. |
23:37:22 | gevaerts | Yes, but PRG is only set at the last chunk. Moving that entire if block won't change behaviour. |
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23:38:44 | * | gevaerts unplugs his "real-life" sd card and plugs in his testing card |
23:38:52 | jhMikeS | If I used reasonable thinking in trying to make any of these PP targets behave I don't think I'd succeed very often :) |
23:40:18 | gevaerts | That's true. I'll let you know what happens |
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23:47:30 | gevaerts | This high-speed business is seriously interfering with my infrastructure work... |
23:48:38 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: same behaviour : corruption with udelay(), no corruption without |
23:49:38 | jhMikeS | got a diff? |
23:50:52 | gevaerts | http://pastebin.ca/916808 |
23:51:22 | gevaerts | Corruption pattern is the same as well |
23:51:48 | * | petur wonders what you have to do to logbot to make him say "got annoyed" |
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23:52:59 | * | gevaerts wonders why petur is called peter in the COMMITTERS file |
23:53:19 | petur | because that is my login? |
23:53:42 | gevaerts | good reason I guess |
23:53:49 | petur | :) |
23:56:39 | Bagder | the front page isn't yet created with the use of that file |
23:56:49 | Bagder | but I'll poke on zagor to get that sorted |
23:56:52 | pixelma | petur: mention it in a line with "logbot" in front |
23:57:46 | petur | I also saw we can redirect the explain messages to one nick... |
23:58:54 | JdGordon | how do the explain messages work? |
23:58:55 | jhMikeS | I think I had more this in mind: http://pastebin.ca/916814 |