| 00:00:13 | linuxstb | moos: It's described in the patch - there are some outstanding bug reports, plus I'm not really happy with how images were handled (not respecting the viewports, but being drawn globally). |
| 00:01:33 | moos | linuxstb: sorry was lazy to check myself :), full viewports with multifonts is probably the main patches remaining "against" unofficials builds |
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| 00:02:06 | gevaerts | Actually there's one issue left that isn't mentionned on the wiki. If a sansa is plugged in while booting, it goes to usb mode correctly, but the sd card is not initialized yet so that isn't accessible. |
| 00:02:10 | linuxstb | moos: So people are using viewports rather than the older patches? |
| 00:02:52 | gevaerts | But as long as there are write problems on sansa, and the bootloader still boots to OF by default, I don't think that's too important |
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| 00:03:20 | moos | linuxstb: just a guess |
| 00:03:35 | linuxstb | gevaerts: It could be worth adding it to the wiki page - you never know, someone may fix it for you... |
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| 00:04:00 | * | gevaerts edits the wiki now |
| 00:05:20 | * | gevaerts tries to think if there are other minor issues |
| 00:06:43 | gevaerts | Actually, that's feature. If the sansa is plugged in while booting, there is no write corruption on the sd card :) |
| 00:07:44 | Llorean | Hehehe |
| 00:09:33 | pixelma | hmm... the screenshot pngs should probably be renamed to have "context-menu" instead of "file-menu" in it, too |
| 00:10:02 | barrywardell | have other people reported success with UMS on H10? or is it just me so far? |
| 00:10:26 | gevaerts | There is still this issue that causes Windows to be annoying when you switch from UMS to serial to charging-only. It remembers what you did last time, and ignores new information. I'll test tomorrow if that can be fixed by adding a digit to the serial number that's used as a bitmap of enabled class drivers |
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| 00:11:09 | gevaerts | barrywardell: amiconn has used it, and he has no signal quality problems with it. |
| 00:13:13 | amiconn | Well, almost |
| 00:14:26 | amiconn | I saw very few resets when having it connected to the front port of my linux box (3 resets while playing a whole album from usb disk) |
| 00:15:05 | gevaerts | Could you try that test again with the OF and the same port ? Maybe it's just due to the port |
| 00:15:18 | amiconn | Compare that to the dozens... hundreds of resets I get by just browsing my mini. Mini on rear port works flawlessly though (and H10 too) |
| 00:15:42 | amiconn | No problems with OF on any port, H10 and Mini |
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| 00:16:39 | amiconn | Same applies to my windows box and connecting to my hub vs. root port. Hub produces errors, root port works |
| 00:16:50 | amiconn | Hub works for all OFs |
| 00:17:27 | gevaerts | Anyway, I should be able to get signal testing done tomorrow on my c250, hopefully both on FS and HS. That might provide some hints (and of course if soap manages to get these voltage measurements done, that should give even more hints) |
| 00:18:55 | * | gevaerts hopes to get this solved before his gigabeat f arrives, so he only has to worry about one driver at the same time |
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| 00:31:28 | gevaerts | Actually I got a mail today from someone who owns two e200s, one of which absolutely refuses to connect to his front ports, while the other does connect to one front port, but not the other; all using the OF. The one that connects has newer firmware (1.02.18P vs 1.02.15P). Back ports work for both. I'm not sure what that implies, but it is interesting |
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| 00:33:05 | amiconn | Out-of-specs front ports, perhaps? |
| 00:33:35 | amiconn | I guess my front ports are noiser than the rear ports, but still within specs (it's a HP business PC...) |
| 00:34:34 | * | amiconn now has a working gamma test plugin |
| 00:35:00 | * | amiconn used it in a sim to test the display gamma of his laptop as a verification |
| 00:35:21 | gevaerts | Don't be too sure of that. I've heard about devices that pass electrical tests perfectly and don't connect to HP front ports, from the people who did the tests. |
| 00:35:43 | amiconn | HP business pc or consumer pc? |
| 00:36:00 | gevaerts | I think both. I'll ask |
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| 00:38:40 | linuxstb | scorche|sh: What server will your rockbox-themes site run on? Will you have full control over it? |
| 00:39:01 | scorche|sh | linuxstb: yes...full and absolute control |
| 00:39:20 | scorche|sh | well, short of kernel modules |
| 00:39:40 | linuxstb | I really just mean ssh access so we can run scripts on it? |
| 00:40:00 | linuxstb | And build things like checkwps automatically from svn checkouts. |
| 00:40:11 | scorche|sh | yes...it is my VPS (which will be others too as soon as i upgrade it) |
| 00:40:18 | scorche|sh | no shared hosting |
| 00:41:00 | gevaerts | Six more clean commits and there will be this nice green rectangle with just this one vertical yellow line... |
| 00:41:14 | scorche|sh | gevaerts: thanks for jinxing it ;) |
| 00:41:16 | rasher | I guess it's time I broke my buildserver again |
| 00:42:31 | linuxstb | gevaerts: What are you planning for the gigabeat f? |
| 00:42:32 | scorche|sh | linuxstb: which means i should probably edit the code to use the zip function instead of just exec() (or whichever function i used..) |
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| 00:43:32 | * | linuxstb wonders if uploaded themes could/should be put in SVN... |
| 00:43:48 | scorche|sh | errrr... |
| 00:44:01 | Llorean | I'd vote against it. |
| 00:44:06 | scorche|sh | same |
| 00:44:25 | linuxstb | I'm not talking about the current wps directory - just an svn repository to manage the uploaded themes. |
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| 00:44:43 | rasher | I don't think there are many advantages to it |
| 00:44:46 | gevaerts | linuxstb: I'd like to get USB host working, if at all possible. |
| 00:44:56 | Llorean | I don't think we need revision history for themes. :) |
| 00:45:09 | rasher | scorche|sh: Latest wpschecker script: http://pastebin.ca/927021 |
| 00:45:22 | scorche|sh | scorche: ^^ |
| 00:45:43 | rasher | scorche: Latest wpschecker script: http://pastebin.ca/927021 (TOOLSDIR) needs adjustment, obviously |
| 00:47:05 | linuxstb | Llorean: It's not just about a revision history, it's about allowing people to edit/maintain them in a controlled way, and also without needing server access. |
| 00:47:59 | rasher | linuxstb: I think "upload a new zip on top of the current one" is fine for maintaining a theme, really |
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| 00:50:12 | linuxstb | rasher: For 100s of themes? |
| 00:50:27 | scorche|sh | there really inst *that* much traffic |
| 00:51:46 | scorche|sh | i would be afraid of theme authors ruining others'...and it would be a pain to set up permissions each time |
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| 00:53:25 | roolku | pixelma: where is a good place to install unicode support for cygwin? I tried /usr/share/texmf/tex/ but it is not finding utf8x.def when I do make manual-pdf |
| 00:57:46 | roolku | ah, mktexlsr seems to have fixed it |
| 00:58:28 | * | amiconn wonders what macos has against ums devices which are not marked as removable |
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| 00:59:33 | amiconn | Would plugging an iriver, or archos recorder, confuse macos too? |
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| 01:00:38 | pixelma | roolku: did you run mktexslr (I think it was called)? (that was necessary for me to make it find the unicode package files) |
| 01:00:54 | gevaerts | I don't know. It seems to ask for mode pages that should be (IIUC) optional, and fails if those are not available. |
| 01:01:03 | * | pixelma should have read further... :) |
| 01:01:09 | roolku | pixelma: yes, that seems to have fixed it :) |
| 01:01:54 | amiconn | gevaerts: Is it possible to find out what data a certain device sends for those mode pages? |
| 01:02:06 | amiconn | I mean, which having control about the device side stack |
| 01:02:12 | amiconn | s/which/without/ |
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| 01:03:34 | gevaerts | amiconn: you should be able to get those using a tracer (software would be sufficient for this) |
| 01:04:02 | amiconn | Hmm, but only if the host requests this info, correct? |
| 01:04:14 | * | gevaerts realizes this eject change probably broke SD-card swapping while connected |
| 01:04:55 | gevaerts | amiconn: most OSes ask for page code 0x3f eventually, which means "all supported pages" |
| 01:04:58 | * | amiconn remembers that he did some experiments with a scsi inquiry program on Amiga way back in the past |
| 01:05:39 | * | gevaerts remembers reading about a disk search command in an old scsi spec |
| 01:06:22 | * | amiconn wonders whether he'll manage to dig up that program, and whether it'll work with the usbscsi.device provided by the usb stack |
| 01:07:50 | * | pixelma remembers reading february's IRC stats ;) |
| 01:08:28 | gevaerts | amiconn: on linux you can do "scsiinfo -c /dev/sd<whatever>" to get the caching page, which is the one that macos asks for |
| 01:08:47 | amiconn | Ah, it's called SCSIquery - and I still have it installed |
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| 01:13:16 | linuxstb | Isn't it sg_inq on Linux? |
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| 01:14:46 | gevaerts | Actually, it depends on what you want. The macos problem is a mode sense page, so the correct sg_* would be sg_modes |
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| 01:18:33 | gevaerts | sg_dd looks interesting for performing raw performance tests |
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| 01:21:43 | amiconn | gevaerts: Any sg_* output that could be interesting to compare? |
| 01:22:39 | amiconn | (e.g. Mini OF diskmode vs. rockbox, some output from a device with a hardware usb-ata bridge which is not marked removable, etc) |
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| 01:25:31 | gevaerts | amiconn: I'm trying to work out the syntax |
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| 01:26:39 | roolku | pixelma: could I bother you about the manual? I have created the platform file for the MR100, but I am getting an error (?) http://www.pastebin.ca/927055 |
| 01:27:22 | roolku | pixelma: any idea? Undefined control sequence ? Overfull \hbox ? |
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| 01:29:30 | pixelma | it seems to complain about a wrong button macro ( \ButtonA ) in rockbox_interface/main.tex. |
| 01:30:44 | pixelma | the overfull and underfull hbox warnings are normal, you can ignore those. |
| 01:31:10 | pixelma | at least I didn't find anything speaking against that yet |
| 01:32:17 | roolku | ah, ButtonA would be a problem - this should be ButtonDisplay ... wonder how it got there... |
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| 01:32:56 | gevaerts | amiconn: "sg_modes --six --hex /dev/sd?" and "sg_modes --hex /dev/sd?" are interesting. Those are for MODE SENSE 6 and MODE SENSE 10. For some reason the second one doesn't cut of its data at a correct length. "sg_inq /dev/sd?" might also be useful. |
| 01:34:48 | pixelma | roolku: could also be an unclosed \opt{gigabeatf} perhaps? Or does the m:robe100 also have a button "A"? |
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| 01:36:23 | roolku | pixelma: no, I used the gigabeatf as the basis for my platform file - the mrobe 100 uses ButtonDisplay rather than ButtonA, but I thought I had replaced them all... |
| 01:37:17 | gevaerts | amiconn: "sg_modes -e --hex /dev/sd?" should also be interesting, but it doesn't seem to work properly over usb (or maybe I don't have enough patience) |
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| 01:37:43 | roolku | pixelma: ah, found the culprit |
| 01:39:18 | amiconn | gevaerts: I already have results from apple diskmode + iriver h180 (hardware bridge); compiling latest rockbox for mini now... |
| 01:39:35 | amiconn | The iriver doesn't support 6 byte mode sense at all |
| 01:39:40 | pixelma | roolku: ah, glad you found it :) |
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| 01:41:25 | gevaerts | amiconn: I found a byte-order bug in the rockbox mode sense 10 code. Fixing now... |
| 01:41:44 | amiconn | -e works here, btw |
| 01:42:01 | amiconn | (but apple diskmode returns strange results iiuc) |
| 01:42:15 | saratoga | is it possible to reboot a sansa into rockbox without resetting the CPU? |
| 01:42:42 | saratoga | i'm wondering if it would be possible to leave all the OF's register settings in place then boot rockbox |
| 01:42:53 | saratoga | without clearing them |
| 01:44:04 | gevaerts | saratoga: I doubt it, but I don't really know |
| 01:46:02 | linuxstb | saratoga: I think you would have to hack the OF somehow to do it - insert some Rockbox code at a known point in the OF to dump the registers to disk... Or the alternative would be something like jtag, but I don't know if the Sansa has that |
| 01:46:34 | saratoga | linuxstb: it does have jtag but thats not what i was thinking |
| 01:46:49 | amiconn | Umm, rockbox doesn't like sg_modes -e |
| 01:46:59 | saratoga | since we can resign the OF after editing it, i was thinking of maybe just branching back to the bootloader after the OF boots |
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| 01:47:24 | saratoga | i guess i need to talk to bagder about this |
| 01:47:45 | linuxstb | The OF will most likely overwrite the bootloader (it's in IRAM) |
| 01:48:00 | amiconn | gevaerts: http://pastebin.ca/927077 |
| 01:48:02 | gevaerts | amiconn: sansa OF doesn't like it either here |
| 01:48:06 | linuxstb | saratoga: Have you looked at the emulator? |
| 01:48:15 | saratoga | linuxstb: yes a lot last summer |
| 01:48:20 | amiconn | Note the loooong reply of rockbox for 10 byte mode sense as well... |
| 01:48:29 | saratoga | though it didn't fully boot the OF so i'm not sure how useful it would be |
| 01:48:36 | gevaerts | amiconn: I just fixed that one |
| 01:49:14 | saratoga | I'm actually really hoping we can get a GSOC student interested in improving the emulator |
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| 01:52:33 | * | gevaerts found another bug |
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| 01:54:27 | jac0b | is there a way to set a them to use a inverse slector bar? |
| 01:54:33 | jac0b | theme* |
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| 01:55:15 | saratoga | i think you can just edit the theme file to use the inverse selector bar instead of whatever its doing now |
| 01:56:22 | jac0b | HOW DO YOU DO IT |
| 01:56:29 | jac0b | opps sorry about the caps |
| 01:57:02 | saratoga | the WPSLIST declares "selector type: bar (inverse)" when it wants inverse so i'd guess that would work in a theme config file too |
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| 01:57:53 | pixelma | you could also set it, then save "theme settings" and look what's in the file... |
| 01:59:10 | jac0b | got it thanks |
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| 02:04:05 | stripwax | I recall someone saying (on mailing list or forum post?) that they've noticed how much louder rockbox is on disk seeking than on original firmware on ipod 5g - I just rebooted into OF and I'd have to say I agree. Are we possibly not setting the correct power options ('quiet seek'?) in ata? |
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| 02:05:43 | stripwax | where quiet seek = the acoustic management mode, but I can't recall the details |
| 02:05:57 | amiconn | We are setting acoustic management if the disk supports it |
| 02:07:41 | stripwax | I wonder if the disk incorrectly identifies as not supporting it, or if there is a different setting used by the OF |
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| 02:14:06 | gevaerts | amiconn: I'll finish looking at this scsi info tomorrow. I'm really getting sleepy now |
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| 02:18:06 | pixelma | is it just me or is rockbox.org slow for someone else too? |
| 02:18:27 | JdGordon | its fine here |
| 02:19:24 | pixelma | oh well, maybe it's just saying "it's late here, get some sleep" :) |
| 02:20:23 | pixelma | gnight |
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| 03:13:12 | countrymonkey | Is there a chance fs#8627 could get a critique? |
| 03:16:52 | linuxstb | countrymonkey: I don't think "on track change" is descriptive - as that (to me) implies a beep on _every_ track change, not just when skipping. But I've never used that feature at all (I never even knew it existed...) |
| 03:18:36 | countrymonkey | good point. I'll change it. |
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| 03:33:40 | countrymonkey | Now it is fixed. Could it be checked again? |
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| 03:38:04 | shrimants | Hello |
| 03:38:50 | shrimants | Is it possible to completely remove the ipod stock firmware from the ipod before/after installing rockbox? |
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| 03:41:26 | countrymonkey | No. You would have to reflash the ipod rom and that is dangerous. I see no reason you would want to do such thing, though. |
| 03:42:04 | shrimants | no reason, really, I was just wondering how to make it load only the rockbox firmware instead of using the bootloader that first has the apple logo and then the rockbox logos. |
| 03:43:15 | countrymonkey | You mean you don't want the rockbox logo? |
| 03:43:40 | shrimants | no i mean i dont want the apple logo. It wasnt really a question of how, it was just a question of if it was possible or not |
| 03:43:44 | cool_walking_ | Yeah, it's not possible currently. Rockbox doesn't have it's own UMS mode yet (you can't transfer files from the computer), so you still need the Apple firmware anyway. |
| 03:43:54 | shrimants | Oh, alright |
| 03:44:27 | shrimants | But then how does rockbox transfer? Are you supposed to reboot into disk mode in order to transfer music through syncing? |
| 03:44:58 | countrymonkey | reboot into disk mode and reboot back again. |
| 03:45:15 | shrimants | ah ok, thanks for clearing that up |
| 03:45:17 | linuxstb | There is working code in SVN for Rockbox's own UMS mode, but it's not enabled yet. |
| 03:45:45 | linuxstb | Rockbox currently automatically reboots to Apple's emergency disk mode when you attach to USB, and then it will reboot back to rockbox when you detach. |
| 03:46:01 | shrimants | Is it not possible to implement something into rockbox that makes it use sometehing like PlaysForSure or simple USB device mode transfering? |
| 03:46:49 | linuxstb | "PlaysForSure" won't happen - no-one wants to implement support for DRM in Rockbox. |
| 03:46:50 | JdGordon | countrymonkey: only native speakers should be trying to update languages.... youve been told that a fwe times |
| 03:47:01 | JdGordon | and wasnt beep volume removed anyway? |
| 03:47:19 | shrimants | I just used PlaysForSure as an example, i didnt mean that protocol specificall |
| 03:47:20 | shrimants | y |
| 03:47:40 | shrimants | my Zen Vision M taught me enough hatred for that protocol |
| 03:47:57 | countrymonkey | no. A native speaker bleepin updated this file. He gave me the translation because we were bored together today and I put it in. |
| 03:48:18 | cool_walking_ | PlaysForSure isn't a protocol. |
| 03:48:34 | linuxstb | shrimants: But yes, other USB modes are possible - and I've just mentioned that we have a (almost) working UMS mode already |
| 03:48:36 | cool_walking_ | It's just a certification that the player works with Windows Media Player |
| 03:49:02 | shrimants | oh, I did not know that. What was the transfer protocol that windows devices used then? |
| 03:49:08 | cool_walking_ | MTP? |
| 03:49:11 | JdGordon | "A helpful friend (carlos tores) translated this patch to spanish for me. Here is the new patch. Beware that even though he is a native spanish speaker, he doesn't know very much about the jukebox world. Additionally, he is a mexican spanish speaker. Here's the patch." i.e not nesacerily the person we want doing the translatino |
| 03:49:12 | shrimants | yes! that one |
| 03:49:34 | linuxstb | JdGordon: translatino? ;) |
| 03:49:42 | shrimants | LOL |
| 03:49:54 | JdGordon | yeah, for some reason my fingures always do the ion wrong :p |
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| 03:50:45 | linuxstb | shrimants: The transfer protocol is MTP |
| 03:51:00 | Alonea | just to double check, the wall chargers don't work with the sansa? We have tried and so far no luck. It does not charge the battery. |
| 03:51:25 | JdGordon | it shuold... worst case is you need to use the OF |
| 03:51:35 | linuxstb | Alonea: In Rockbox or the original firmware? |
| 03:51:37 | shrimants | right, Wouldnt it be possible to implement MTP into rockbox is what my question was. for instance, I dont know how you transfer your files over, but I just copy my "my music" folder over to the HD and rockbox tags it |
| 03:52:01 | JdGordon | shrimants: its possible, but unlikely |
| 03:52:06 | Alonea | linuxstb: rockbox. and if you plug in the charger while the player is off, it loads rockbox in a loop |
| 03:52:13 | linuxstb | shrimants: Yes, it's been mentioned a few times. It's even on the list of possible projects for this year's Google Summer Of Code |
| 03:52:20 | JdGordon | it is? |
| 03:52:24 | shrimants | neat-o |
| 03:53:10 | shrimants | Do any of you use an ipod video 30gb with rockbox? if so, how do you manage/transfer your music over? |
| 03:53:24 | linuxstb | I just copy the files over... |
| 03:53:29 | countrymonkey | Why does it do that? I noticed that on Jan. 15, 2007, my first ever day of rockbox. |
| 03:54:18 | Alonea | linuxstb: I was looking through the logs and it looks like there is work being done on the usb issues. Does it look like this problem will be fixed sometime soon? |
| 03:54:50 | countrymonkey | Me too. I have an ipod4g20gb and it is esentially the same. |
| 03:55:02 | Alonea | Dad pretty much wants to be able to listen to music, etc. with the charger in like I could on my gigabeat. |
| 03:55:03 | linuxstb | Alonea: I think the effort is concentrated on getting the UMS driver working. I never even knew the Sansas had that problem (I don't own one) |
| 03:55:11 | JdGordon | Alonea: wierd.. are you using a unsupported bootloader? I dont think we ever rebooted on usb on the sansa |
| 03:55:36 | Alonea | JdGordon: not that I know of. Unless a new bootloader has been implemented in the last month. |
| 03:55:49 | JdGordon | not to my knowledge... |
| 03:55:58 | countrymonkey | bbl. I am having a problem talking on the phone and talking here. |
| 03:55:59 | JdGordon | but ok, just boot into the OF (hold left) |
| 03:56:04 | shrimants | How would you recommend installing rockbox, using the automated installer? or command line? |
| 03:56:12 | JdGordon | AUTOMATED! |
| 03:56:17 | linuxstb | Alonea: When does Rockbox reboot? Immediately on boot, or after while? |
| 03:56:27 | linuxstb | sansapatcher/ipodpatcher! |
| 03:56:29 | shrimants | alright then, automated it is lol |
| 03:57:19 | Alonea | JdGordon: now, if you put in the usb cable to computer while off, it loads the OF like its supposed to. If you plug in wall charger, it loads the rockbox boot screen, goes black, reboots back to rocobox boot screen in a loop |
| 03:57:41 | JdGordon | wierd |
| 03:58:06 | Alonea | JdGordon: if you plug in wall charger while in rockbox, nothing happens and battery does not charge. if you plug in usb in rockbox, it usually reboots into OF. |
| 03:58:22 | JdGordon | e200? |
| 03:58:32 | Alonea | JdGordon: yes. 280 to be exact. |
| 03:58:42 | JdGordon | and your definatly using a supported build? |
| 03:58:51 | JdGordon | I'm sure re otting was never added for sansa |
| 03:58:57 | Alonea | yeah |
| 03:58:59 | JdGordon | but ill go find my sansa which isnt busy and try it out |
| 03:59:18 | Alonea | I always use rockbox builds. haven't built my own in a lonnnnnng time. |
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| 04:00:24 | JdGordon | oh wow! it did reboot |
| 04:00:27 | Alonea | I meant to mention this a month ago, but I got busy. though I don't know if the loop thing was happening before. its not my player. ^__^ |
| 04:00:44 | Alonea | JdGordon: when you plug in the usb cable to compy? |
| 04:00:52 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 04:00:59 | * | JdGordon checks with wall charger |
| 04:01:04 | Alonea | JdGordon: I was told it was supposed to. |
| 04:01:47 | Alonea | since there isn't usb in rockbox support yet. (*sniffles*) |
| 04:03:05 | JdGordon | nup, wall charger appears to work fine |
| 04:03:09 | JdGordon | not rebooting and looping |
| 04:03:26 | Alonea | hmm...using latest version? |
| 04:03:39 | JdGordon | nope |
| 04:04:21 | * | JdGordon will try svn shortly.. running between 3 comps atm |
| 04:04:26 | Alonea | its ok. |
| 04:04:50 | Alonea | so your charger actually charges your player? while in rockbox? or only in OF? |
| 04:05:15 | Alonea | when you plug in your charger, does it load OF or rockbox? |
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| 04:11:18 | JdGordon | it loads rockbox and says its charging |
| 04:12:53 | shrimants | woah the automated installer has come a LONG way since i installed rockbox last |
| 04:13:30 | Alonea | odd. I will try again in a sec. I bought the charger that the reviews said didn't break within a week and didn't have any problems. give me a sec to tell you the brand. |
| 04:14:33 | JdGordon | I'm using some generic usb charger |
| 04:14:53 | countrymonkey | I am wondering: I have an aa quickcharger and a minib-to-ipod tip adapter. How does rb fair with those? |
| 04:14:56 | Alonea | ok, its a belkin. |
| 04:16:44 | Alonea | JdGordon: where would it say "chargin" for rockbox? |
| 04:16:56 | countrymonkey | ,In the rockbox info screen. |
| 04:16:58 | JdGordon | in the statusbar |
| 04:17:08 | Alonea | what theme? |
| 04:17:31 | JdGordon | any theeme.. just enable the statusbar |
| 04:17:37 | JdGordon | the battery icno will change |
| 04:18:02 | countrymonkey | icon |
| 04:18:07 | Alonea | eh, its hard to tell since the battery is currently full. |
| 04:20:37 | Alonea | ok, i am using cabbie, and the battery thing has no animation or anything |
| 04:20:45 | Alonea | neither did cassette. |
| 04:21:54 | Alonea | oh! |
| 04:22:03 | Alonea | there it goes! |
| 04:22:39 | Alonea | I gues the update fixed it (as for why it did not work a second ago I am using one of the plugs on a box and I forgot that one was bad |
| 04:23:25 | Alonea | I guess I will see if after a while, the green is all the way and double check in OF. |
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| 04:24:41 | Isolinear | So... I have a bug to report regarding the iPod5G where it crashes and makes strange static noises and I took an audio recording of the symptom... Anyone know how/where I could put this audio file somewhere for all to access to see if others are having the same problem? |
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| 04:27:35 | Davide-NYC | Can you consistently reproduce the bug? |
| 04:27:44 | Isolinear | lol... |
| 04:27:52 | Isolinear | Well it consistently happens over and over again. |
| 04:28:23 | Isolinear | But it occurs at seemingly random intervals, no telling when or how often it'll happen, nor what triggers it. |
| 04:28:36 | Davide-NYC | Bug reports go on the tracker. I think you can attach files there. |
| 04:28:49 | Isolinear | That's why I took the recording, as the noises it makes are quite distinctive. |
| 04:29:02 | Isolinear | Ah really? So a 3MB .wav file is no problem then? |
| 04:29:12 | Davide-NYC | Yup, on the tracker it goes. (attachment max 2MB) |
| 04:29:17 | Isolinear | Ouch. |
| 04:29:22 | Davide-NYC | cut it down to just the relevant portion. |
| 04:29:31 | countrymonkey | .zip it up. |
| 04:29:36 | Davide-NYC | true |
| 04:29:40 | Alonea | JdGordon: so I will check some more on this charging thing and double check it works. lemme see if the loop thing still happens |
| 04:29:48 | Davide-NYC | I know it is not my place to question the devs, but I am wondering why the unfinished projects from last years GSoC aren't on this years wiki page? |
| 04:30:04 | saratoga | Davide-NYC: you're welcome to add them |
| 04:30:12 | Davide-NYC | I am? |
| 04:30:17 | saratoga | the list there is mostly just things i was interested in |
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| 04:30:39 | Davide-NYC | My opinion is GSoc2008 should focum on a 3.0 release |
| 04:30:48 | saratoga | thats not really possible |
| 04:31:01 | Isolinear | Btw, to whomever is responsible for homepage site design, the little icons on the left next to all the links, as well as including the revision number for each source code update are very welcom improvements. :) |
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| 04:31:13 | * | Davide-NYC agreed |
| 04:31:17 | saratoga | releases take basically everyone working on them |
| 04:31:29 | Davide-NYC | saratoga: I know, but pieces could be targeted, no? |
| 04:31:35 | Alonea | ok, JdGordon, I misread the loop thing. This is what is happening. When the player is OFF and I plug in the wall charger, the sandisk logo comes up, the rockbox screen comes up, and it just stops. the black is the backlight going off. |
| 04:31:50 | saratoga | well yes you could pick a piece and work on it, but i doubt fixing any one thing is going to move much closer to a 3.0 release |
| 04:32:09 | Davide-NYC | For the iRiver H1x0 series we are extremely close IMO./ |
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| 04:33:07 | Alonea | JdGordon: if I then unplug the charger, it finishes loading. |
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| 04:34:45 | * | alienbiker99 just fixed my h320 battery |
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| 04:35:19 | Isolinear | Ah, never mind, I found someone else has posted a recording in FS #8651. |
| 04:36:46 | Davide-NYC | saratoga: Is it appropriate to put viewports on there? |
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| 04:41:09 | saratoga | Davide-NYC: isn't that already being worked on by core developers? |
| 04:42:10 | Davide-NYC | Yes, which is why I'm asking. I may be unclear as to what should and shoudl not be included in GSoC. |
| 04:42:55 | saratoga | well it has to be something that could reasonably be done by a student interested in the project |
| 04:43:16 | saratoga | things that are already in an advanced state of development and likely to go into rockbox before GSOC begins are not good choices |
| 04:43:35 | Davide-NYC | what about APE optimization? |
| 04:43:42 | saratoga | ideally it should be things that would take a students roughly the summer to complete and do not involve learning massive amounts about other people's code |
| 04:45:09 | countrymonkey | Doint tts, I guess? |
| 04:45:25 | countrymonkey | text-to-speech, sorry. |
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| 04:48:02 | saratoga | personally i'm hoping for the ARM emulator and Rockbox as an App projects |
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