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| 00:10:48 | amiconn | roolku: yes |
| 00:13:46 | * | amiconn spots a bug in the ata driver when used on large-sector disk targets (i.e. ipod video) |
| 00:15:02 | roolku | amiconn: okay. here is my attempt so far: http://www.pastebin.ca/934612 - seems to solve the 14s problem |
| 00:16:11 | amiconn | It differs a bit from mine |
| 00:17:03 | amiconn | I've called the variable total_sectors, and read it before the lba48 block. Saves duplicate calculation for those targets. I also added a check for lba48 exceeding 32 bits |
| 00:18:10 | amiconn | I also found that the ata mutex unlocking in case of errors is wrong on large-sector targets. The unlocking must not be done in the static read/ write function there |
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| 00:28:26 | amiconn | roolku: Here's my version: http://pastebin.ca/934624 I'll test it on my ata targets now |
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| 00:33:08 | * | gevaerts still has more work to do before this combined software/hardware eject handling works correctly on sansa. It's still too easy to confuse |
| 00:33:33 | amiconn | That reminds me... |
| 00:34:30 | * | gevaerts doesn't like seeing *PANIC* Stkov (0) |
| 00:34:46 | gevaerts | Best not to commit this yet |
| 00:34:50 | amiconn | AAARrrrghh! |
| 00:35:01 | * | amiconn forgot to specify the file to commit |
| 00:35:25 | linuxstb | oops ;) |
| 00:36:27 | * | amiconn committed a load of crap now. |
| 00:36:30 | amiconn | Will revert asap |
| 00:36:41 | gevaerts | So now we know everuthing you're working on ;) |
| 00:36:58 | amiconn | There will be a lot of red most probably |
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| 00:37:37 | * | linuxstb wonders what the score will be |
| 00:38:48 | linuxstb | gevaerts: Have you added a menu option to (re-)enter disk mode yet/ |
| 00:38:50 | roolku | amiconn: shouldn't the second 60 be a 61 in: total_sectors = identify_info[60] | (identify_info[60] << 16); |
| 00:38:58 | amiconn | yes |
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| 00:40:56 | daywalker_ | just a quick question, is there an emulator under linux which can emulate an rockbox compatible arm environment? |
| 00:40:56 | linuxstb | Zagor: Is the intention with all your www commits to enable anyone (with svn access) to change the website? |
| 00:41:04 | linuxstb | No |
| 00:41:13 | gevaerts | linuxstb: I'm working on it. It seems to work on single-volume targets, but I can still confuse the sansa too easily (including getting stuck in usb mode) to commit it. There are also enough changes in it that I want to check if usb mode will still work on ata-usb bridges as well. Don't expect a commit today. |
| 00:41:38 | gevaerts | amiconn: nice score :) |
| 00:41:51 | Zagor | linuxstb: not really, rather to make it more sane for those of us who already work with the website |
| 00:41:52 | linuxstb | gevaerts: I just wanted to check what you decided to do, and if others agree... |
| 00:42:04 | amiconn | eh? Why does the reverse patch not commit the files?? |
| 00:42:38 | linuxstb | Zagor: OK. I'm not wanting to change the site, just curious... |
| 00:42:51 | * | amiconn needs an idea |
| 00:43:09 | Zagor | currently it's a huge mess of obsolete pages |
| 00:44:17 | Nico_P | amiconn: use svn merge |
| 00:44:56 | * | amiconn has no idea how that works |
| 00:45:05 | gevaerts | linuxstb: we'll see. I'm still not sure if this entire idea is right (it has the side effect of delaying the usb screen until the host actually sends a SCSI command, which can take some time), so maybe I will just have wasted some time, but it has to work properly before it can get evaluated. |
| 00:45:22 | amiconn | I just made a patch using svn diff -r16570:15569 , applied that, and wanted to commit |
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| 00:45:39 | Nico_P | amiconn: svn merge -c-16570 . . should do |
| 00:46:00 | linuxstb | amiconn: I would have done the same... |
| 00:46:33 | amiconn | linuxstb: Problem is, it doesn't commit the files. It just committed the 2 deleted ones I had to delete by hand |
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| 00:47:11 | linuxstb | I would probably try an "svn update", then see what "svn diff" shows |
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| 00:47:30 | * | linuxstb always previews commits with "svn diff" |
| 00:47:34 | Nico_P | amiconn: svn merge is the command for reverts |
| 00:47:43 | Slasheri | and svn st to check for any conflicts |
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| 00:47:54 | linuxstb | Nico_P: That sounds better then... |
| 00:49:33 | linuxstb | 60000 points and counting... |
| 00:50:01 | gevaerts | The bootloaders still compile |
| 00:50:03 | Nico_P | svn merge -c-16570 . . seems to do the job here |
| 00:50:12 | JdGordon|zzz | Slasheri: no, it doesnt |
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| 00:50:54 | Slasheri | JdGordon: i will just think something else for that then :) |
| 00:51:07 | amiconn | mrf |
| 00:51:31 | amiconn | Those added files are causing troubles |
| 00:52:20 | linuxstb | Slasheri: I think a multi-selection list would be nice in general (e.g. inserting multiple tracks into the playlist, file copying), but many targets don't have any free buttons (afaics) |
| 00:52:24 | JdGordon | Slasheri: though, its something which has been thrown around for ages.. it would be nice to add (if done properly :p ) |
| 00:52:49 | Slasheri | hehe |
| 00:53:05 | linuxstb | Hmm, what about long-right? (I'm guessing the Ondio uses that for something though) |
| 00:53:21 | Slasheri | well, i am not yet even sure how to implement the thing i was planning.. just getting some ideas :) |
| 00:53:22 | amiconn | Yes, context menu |
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| 00:54:49 | JdGordon | we could do something like context menu > "multiselect", then each press of SELECT adds/removes the item from the selection untill context menu is reentered |
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| 00:55:12 | JdGordon | onplay.c (the context menu code) isnt setup to handle anything like multiselect though |
| 00:57:52 | linuxstb | That could work. Although it would be nicer to map a button to it, if available. |
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| 00:59:25 | amiconn | phew |
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| 01:01:05 | linuxstb | gevaerts: Setting the removable bit is causing the problem? (delaying the usb screen) |
| 01:03:09 | gevaerts | linuxstb: not as such. Using load/eject to control the USB screen does. At least linux waits 5 to 10 seconds before attempting to access the drive, and the usb screen only gets shown then. I might be able to find a workaround, bu |
| 01:03:34 | gevaerts | but I'm not sure if I can do that cleanly. |
| 01:03:58 | amiconn | This way I got a preview of how much the player bmp loader adds |
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| 01:06:08 | linuxstb | gevaerts: What do you mean by "load" ? I thought you would only be changing how Rockbox deals with an eject? |
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| 01:07:49 | * | amiconn feels pretty lame for this accidental troublesome commit :( |
| 01:09:55 | JdGordon | Llorean: "for example we want people fixing bugs in the current viewports bits" <- what bugs? they cant be fixed if they are kept secret |
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| 01:12:55 | gevaerts | linuxstb: it's the cleanest way to do this, because it unifies the initial connection and subsequent reconnects. Once it works reliably, I can probably add the immediate usb screen back. |
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| 01:16:32 | linuxstb | gevaerts: What do you mean by "load" though? Is that the host OS doing something? |
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| 01:18:06 | countrymonkey | Can I still make voice files and post them even though I don't know the language? |
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| 01:19:23 | linuxstb | countrymonkey: How will you know if the voice files are OK? |
| 01:19:58 | gevaerts | linuxstb: yes. Basically the mechanism is that once the OS does something, the UMS driver asks the USB core for exclusive access to the disk(s). This does the SYS_CONNECT_* things to warn other threads, and to show the USB screen. Once that exclusive access is there (this is asynchronous), the UMS driver treats the drive as inserted and starts working. |
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| 01:21:33 | linuxstb | gevaerts: Does this actually delay the connection, or just delays the display of the screen? |
| 01:21:56 | amiconn | roolku: Did you try that patch? |
| 01:22:17 | gevaerts | linuxstb: it just delays the screen |
| 01:22:43 | linuxstb | gevaerts: OK, then I think I understand... |
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| 01:24:30 | roolku | amiconn: yes, the long delay is gone |
| 01:25:04 | amiconn | Okay, so the disk obviously didn't like out-of-bounds accesses, and adding the check is a good idea |
| 01:27:10 | roolku | are the return values actually checked?...that would be fat_mount |
| 01:28:37 | amiconn | The fat driver checks ata_read_errors() everywhere |
| 01:28:43 | roolku | yes, looks like it |
| 01:28:49 | amiconn | Erm, ata_read_sectors() errors |
| 01:29:07 | gevaerts | linuxstb: I'll continue working on it tomorrow. If I can get it to work properly, and show the USB screen immediately,it will work mostly the same way as now, except that when you eject the drive, it continues charging while the player is usable. After that we can decide if the reconnect option is useful enough to move out of the debug menu. |
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| 01:31:24 | amiconn | Nico_P: still around? |
| 01:31:29 | Nico_P | yes |
| 01:31:32 | roolku | I suspect the ELIO_TPJ1022 had the same problem and the whole #if condition in disk.c line 151 can go |
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| 01:32:03 | roolku | I wonder if linuxstb is up for a test ;) |
| 01:32:06 | * | gevaerts then wants to have a go at the OF disassembly that lowlight provided in FS #8663 to see if that sheds any light on the sd driver bug, and hopes that someone magically finds out where this signal quality problem comes from |
| 01:32:30 | amiconn | Nico_P: Could you test http://pastebin.ca/934689 on the G5.5? |
| 01:34:20 | Nico_P | amiconn: sure. what should it do? |
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| 01:36:13 | amiconn | Just check whether disk accesses are still working properly |
| 01:36:35 | Nico_P | ok |
| 01:38:05 | amiconn | The G5.5 is a special case I can't test myself |
| 01:38:14 | linuxstb | roolku: Yes, remove that - I'm 99.9% sure that's the issue on the Elio as well. |
| 01:41:05 | amiconn | roolku: Shall I commit if Nico_P's test turns out well? |
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| 01:44:04 | linuxstb | JdGordon: (Re: FS #8702) - you can't choose two options with one vote... ;) |
| 01:44:42 | JdGordon | but... but... |
| 01:45:18 | Nico_P | amiconn: seems to work |
| 01:45:19 | JdGordon | I've been suggesting hold for ages though, so i guess thats my favoured aproach |
| 01:45:49 | Nico_P | amiconn: should it be faster too? |
| 01:46:09 | amiconn | No. It's just a safety measure against out-of-bounds accesses |
| 01:46:21 | Nico_P | ok |
| 01:46:26 | amiconn | (and a very tiny size optimisation) |
| 01:46:59 | amiconn | That's the one that also corrects the mutex unlocking behaviour in case of errors on ipdo video |
| 01:50:29 | Nico_P | amiconn: AFAICS it's working fine |
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| 01:52:18 | amiconn | Goddie :) |
| 01:53:38 | roolku | amiconn: yes, please commit |
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| 02:00:01 | amiconn | done |
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| 02:09:15 | amiconn | Interesting deltas.... |
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| 02:18:17 | amiconn | JdGordon: ping |
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| 02:18:42 | mrkiko | Hi all! |
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| 02:18:48 | mrkiko | Hi all! |
| 02:22:39 | JdGordon | amiconn: ? |
| 02:22:47 | amiconn | You wanted to know about viewport bugs - I have a serious one... |
| 02:23:00 | amiconn | I will do a full rebuild to verify though |
| 02:23:09 | amiconn | On recorder, all my lists are single-line now |
| 02:23:11 | JdGordon | its not that I want to hear them... but they cant be fixed if they arnt voiced |
| 02:23:23 | JdGordon | which font? |
| 02:23:32 | amiconn | Rockfont-8 |
| 02:23:41 | amiconn | Status bar enabled, button bar disabled |
| 02:24:23 | amiconn | It *might* be a dependency problem though - I didn't make clean |
| 02:25:03 | JdGordon | WTF? |
| 02:25:14 | JdGordon | default setup on the rec has 1 line |
| 02:25:40 | JdGordon | thats totally fucked :D |
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| 02:26:56 | JdGordon | going to have a shower, ill fix that today though |
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| 02:27:18 | disorganizer | just as we are on the topic: will work on the viewport-patches with customization (list AND wps) continue or were they stopped? |
| 02:28:26 | linuxstb | If they were stopped, the tasks would be closed as rejected. (if that's what you mean) |
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| 02:29:28 | disorganizer | im just wondering as there has been no activity on the viewport-wps patch for ages |
| 02:29:48 | disorganizer | and we still need to discuss wether to use fontnames or fontnumbers *g* |
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| 02:32:45 | linuxstb | disorganizer: I intend to go back to my wps patch when I have some Rockbox time. But that doesn't stop anyone else from working on it (as I said in the task comments). |
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| 02:34:15 | * | disorganizer is so sorry he has no idea of programming, otherwise he would definitely help out |
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| 02:35:12 | amiconn | JdGordon: Confirmed with a clean build. It's also independent of whether the button bar is enabled or disabled |
| 02:36:14 | disorganizer | @amiconn: JdGordon confirmed a bit earlier that there is something in the source setting the rec to 1 line. he will change that l8r after ensuring he doesnt stink :-) |
| 02:38:30 | disorganizer | for the log if someone has an idea how to solve that: in FS8400 (having no backlight on volume changes) we noticed that the backlight on scrollwheel actions is turned on on firmware level. now how can we disable this backlight action only when the wps is active? (otherwise the screen goes dark when scolling in menus) details see FS entry :-) |
| 02:41:15 | linuxstb | disorganizer: fml2 has answered... |
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| 02:44:02 | JdGordon | amiconn: independant of buttonbar? :( I was hoping it would be an easy fix... for some reason it only sems to be rec though |
| 02:44:34 | linuxstb | Not other Archos bitmap targets? |
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| 02:45:24 | * | JdGordon forgot about ondio :p |
| 02:45:26 | JdGordon | checking now |
| 02:45:43 | JdGordon | ondio is fine |
| 02:45:49 | mrkiko | ehy.. may be I'm actually too drunk (it has been my birthday yesterday),,,+Ã |
| 02:46:10 | mrkiko | But I can't find the section in the rockbox site where it's described how rockbox actually started up, who done it and why... |
| 02:46:18 | mrkiko | I remember I red it some time ago |
| 02:47:39 | amiconn | roolku: Will you commit the #ifdef removal from disk.c? |
| 02:47:45 | JdGordon | amiconn: does the buttonbar actually disappear if its disabled? |
| 02:47:50 | amiconn | yes |
| 02:48:45 | disorganizer | @ linuxstb : yes, i saw it. it was more a kind of "cry for a programmer" who can do more than just hack around existing code (=me). |
| 02:48:56 | roolku | amiconn: about to - was just doing a last test with a make clean... |
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| 02:50:42 | mrkiko | Ok... I'm just too "broken inside" now - thank all for theyr existence. At tomorrow! |
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| 02:52:36 | JdGordon | arg... bloody precedence |
| 02:53:44 | * | amiconn goes to sleep |
| 02:56:28 | JdGordon | anyone know where the buttonbar code is? |
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| 03:08:20 | disorganizer | im off to bed now.... nite@all |
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| 03:46:56 | webguest67 | guys |
| 03:46:58 | webguest67 | i need some help |
| 03:47:00 | webguest67 | now |
| 03:47:48 | advcomp2019 | webguest67, we cant help if you do not say what the issue is |
| 03:48:27 | webguest67 | i installed rockbox on my girlfriend's ipod nano 1G |
| 03:48:46 | webguest67 | and after i UNinstalled it at her request, the damned thing's bricked |
| 03:49:20 | scorche | it isnt bricked |
| 03:49:29 | scorche | what does it do? |
| 03:49:42 | webguest67 | it's stuck on a black and white version of the "Do no disconnect" screen |
| 03:49:50 | webguest67 | and i can't even shut it off |
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| 03:49:57 | scorche | is it plugged in? |
| 03:50:04 | webguest67 | no |
| 03:50:31 | scorche | flick the hold switch on, then off and hold menu + select for what could potentially be 60 seconds |
| 03:52:56 | webguest67 | nothing |
| 03:53:04 | JdGordon | can someone with an ipod test a quick patch for me? |
| 03:53:25 | scorche | is it still sitting at the do not disconnect screen? |
| 03:53:30 | webguest67 | yes |
| 03:53:37 | Llorean | webguest67: Then do it again, because you're in an Apple screen as it is, so Rockbox isn't the problem, and the menu+select thing works unless you've cause physical damage to your player (dropping it, etc) |
| 03:53:37 | scorche | then you are likely doing it wrong |
| 03:53:47 | webguest67 | when i lock it the lock appears on-screen |
| 03:54:02 | webguest67 | it says " |
| 03:54:09 | webguest67 | "Ok to disconnect" |
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| 03:54:41 | scorche | keep trying to reset it |
| 03:54:57 | webguest67 | so i flip the hold switch |
| 03:54:58 | Llorean | webguest67: You are turning hold (lock) on then OFF before holding the buttons down, right? |
| 03:55:01 | scorche | make sure to keep your fingers as still as you can |
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| 05:25:34 | GrooveStix | oh hai! :) |
| 05:26:43 | GrooveStix | can anybody tell me, how can I browse my music in the most battery efficient way? |
| 05:27:21 | GrooveStix | through the database, or through the "files" option instead ? |
| 05:55:49 | GrooveStix | oh well, I'll come back tomorrow... :( |
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| 06:28:06 | AdRock42083 | ?. Just picked up a sansa e280 and put rockbox on it. I have an 8gb SDHC card that I want to use with it. Does Rbox support card capacity of that amount? |
| 06:29:52 | advcomp2019 | AdRock42083, yes but you will need to use a card reader to transfer to files to it since the OF does not work with microsdhc cards |
| 06:30:27 | AdRock42083 | k. thanks |
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| 07:35:05 | J-23 | Hello! Can I connect my Sansa c240 with Rockbox to charge battery *without* rebooting to original firmware and use computer as charger? |
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| 08:19:15 | Klevi | 'lo All, I realize this is unrelated to Rockbox parsay, but: After restoreing my ipod through Itunes, my 4tyh gen grayscale 20gb ipod asks me to charge via a wall adapter; that i dont own. Is there a way around that at all? |
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| 08:49:09 | amiconn | JdGordon: Viewport list is still buggy on recorder |
| 08:51:51 | amiconn | rasher: around? |
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| 09:15:09 | linuxstb | Klevi: Are you asking in general (i.e. how to prevent it next time), or is your ipod currently stuck there and you don't have a charger? |
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| 09:50:37 | Klevi | Its stuck there |
| 09:50:44 | Klevi | and I lack a wall charger unit |
| 09:50:51 | Klevi | Linuxstb^ |
| 09:51:28 | linuxstb | Sorry, I can't help. You may want to try an Apple support forum... |
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| 09:52:36 | Klevi | Ive googled, and all of them say i need a charger, though all of them were people in the same shoes as i am, not an Apple spt. forum |
| 09:52:46 | eigma | anyone awake familiar with atapwd.ex? |
| 09:52:48 | eigma | *atapwd.exe |
| 09:52:56 | Klevi | Thanks anyway Linuxstb |
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| 09:59:10 | Klevi | Linuxstb, The support page tells me to get a wall charger, I wonder if any USB outlet adapter will do.. |
| 09:59:26 | Klevi | I dont ahve 30$ to blow on a wall unit from Apple itself |
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| 10:00:37 | amiconn | Do you have a firewire cable for your ipod? |
| 10:00:44 | linuxstb_ | I would expect so, but I've only ever used an Apple charger (I bought an ipod when Apple used to ship chargers...) |
| 10:01:32 | Klevi | No, nor do I have a firewire port |
| 10:02:07 | amiconn | I think the reason is that the ipod wants to flash a new rom image, and that only works when powered |
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| 10:02:20 | Klevi | according to Ipods Support Page Im at stage 2 in restoration, where the firmware acually reinstalls |
| 10:02:48 | linuxstb_ | Can you put your ipod into disk mode (reset with MENU+SELECT, then hold SELECT+PLAY) ? |
| 10:02:51 | Klevi | in the older models, which is what i have, you need to plug it in to the wall |
| 10:02:53 | Klevi | No |
| 10:02:57 | Klevi | Disk mode doesnt work |
| 10:03:05 | Klevi | on HOLD+LEFT does |
| 10:03:15 | Klevi | and thats rather.. useless at this point |
| 10:03:40 | amiconn | And afaik it only does this when it detects a wall charger. Wall charger connects to the firewire power pin, so firewire could work. USB power most likely doesn't |
| 10:04:01 | Klevi | no, it doesnt annoyingly |
| 10:04:07 | linuxstb_ | Maybe if you went to a local Apple store, they would help... |
| 10:04:30 | Klevi | They probably would, but the closest one to me is New York I believe |
| 10:05:01 | JdGordon | amiconn: buggy how? |
| 10:05:02 | * | linuxstb_ wonders how Apple expect users to upgrade if they don't provide a charger |
| 10:05:28 | Klevi | well, according to them, they sent one with the older ipods |
| 10:05:36 | Klevi | I didnt get that. |
| 10:05:46 | Klevi | being a hand me down from someone else |
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| 10:06:24 | linuxstb_ | Ah, so you have an older ipod, but no charger? |
| 10:06:30 | Klevi | I halfway hoped reinstalling the firmware would fix the fact that disk mode didnt work properly, but the rest of the ipods firmware does |
| 10:06:37 | amiconn | JdGordon: Try disabling the button bar, then use e.g. the context menu on a full-screen browser view |
| 10:07:00 | amiconn | It acts as if the button bar is enabled (botttom line is neither cleared nor used) |
| 10:08:00 | JdGordon | there should be 7 lines with the default theme under the statusbar yeah? |
| 10:08:08 | Klevi | Previously, if i connected my Ipod diskmode would come up, the device would install properly, but attempting to open the disk or.. do anything with it, resulted in that program crashing, until the very second i disconnected my Ipod |
| 10:08:28 | Klevi | then my computer would work properl |
| 10:08:29 | Klevi | *y |
| 10:09:03 | Klevi | so, by a shot in the dark, there was something wrong with the disks format |
| 10:09:08 | amiconn | JdGordon: Depends on which bars are enabled |
| 10:09:22 | Klevi | Trying to format it though through DOS stopped at 3% |
| 10:09:26 | JdGordon | amiconn: hmm ok, im going to redo that commit tonight, like the comment says, its a quick hack to fix it...using the whole screen - 1 line is better than just one line |
| 10:09:57 | amiconn | When the button bar is enabled, it works as it should (i.e. it doesn't cut another line) |
| 10:10:17 | Klevi | Itunes managed to restore it |
| 10:10:27 | JdGordon | yeah, I gotta move the viewport resize/init code around a bit |
| 10:11:48 | amiconn | Maybe there's yet another place that's missing the parentheses |
| 10:11:50 | * | amiconn greps |
| 10:11:53 | Klevi | im debating plugging my ipod into the 360 or the cable box |
| 10:12:13 | Klevi | God knows why a cable box has a USB port on it |
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| 10:17:40 | Klevi | annnd nope, theyre both standard USB ports I guess. |
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| 10:22:59 | * | JdGordon looks forward to when list wont care about button/status bars |
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| 10:24:57 | amiconn | That requires starting to assign viewports from the top level, i.e. the whole screen |
| 10:25:29 | JdGordon |
icon identifies that the person is a core developer (has commit access).