| 00:00:32 | DerekRead | I have an .fmr file for my region and would like to place it on the wiki. I would also like to contribute to the help. Who do I ask for write permission? |
| 00:00:42 | Bagder | amiconn: cool! |
| 00:01:25 | amiconn | I first thought I made a mistake in the hardware dependent part... turned out that I goofed in the main/remote lcd unification work... |
| 00:01:52 | amiconn | This resulted in uninitialised foreground+background patterns, i.e. white on white |
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| 00:03:39 | gevaerts | DerekRead: you're in the right place. Is DerekRead also your wiki name ? |
| 00:04:35 | DerekRead | Yes, same name on the wiki |
| 00:05:06 | * | gevaerts tries adding a wiki user for the first time |
| 00:06:10 | gevaerts | DerekRead: You should have write permission now (unless I did something wrong). Welcome! |
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| 00:17:55 | DerekRead | gevaerts: Thanks. Logged in, uploaded my .fmr file and made some changes to /twiki/bin/view/Main/FmPresetsAmerica. Took a minute to figure out the wiki format, but I think I got it. |
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| 00:25:03 | saratoga | the ServerWiki page says it needs SSH "allowing user 'rbclient' to login using a public key" |
| 00:25:06 | saratoga | what does this mean? |
| 00:25:12 | saratoga | (specifically a public key) |
| 00:26:05 | Diggin_on | Can anybody here tell me where I can find the experimental rockbox build by Kosh? |
| 00:26:41 | saratoga | Diggin_on: unsupported builds aren't supported here |
| 00:26:56 | Llorean | Diggin_on: This is really a channel for official Rockbox. If it's not in the unsupported builds portion of our forums, we aren't going to know about it. |
| 00:27:13 | scorche|sh | and if it is, we arent going to talk about it |
| 00:27:35 | Llorean | Well, we'll point you to it, and say "ask questions there" :-P |
| 00:27:46 | Llorean | We won't pretend like it doesn't exist or anything. :) |
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| 00:29:38 | Diggin_on | What's so bad about this build? I did not know that I should not use it! |
| 00:29:53 | scorche|sh | we never said you shouldnt use it...we just said it sint supported by us |
| 00:30:04 | scorche|sh | s/sint/isnt |
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| 00:31:16 | Diggin_on | I do not know what the difference to the official build is! I really love rockbox! It's one of the greatest open source things I've ever seen! |
| 00:31:37 | saratoga | the difference is you can ask about the official build on here and the forums |
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| 00:32:15 | soap | The logistical nightmare of trying to support Joe Blow's build #4523 is the reason they aren't supported in official channels. |
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| 00:32:32 | soap | Who knows exactly what Joe has done, or how he has done it? |
| 00:32:46 | * | gevaerts hopes Joe knows |
| 00:32:54 | Diggin_on | OK, so I will use the official build! Is it planned to improve the recording sreen? |
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| 00:33:37 | soap | Ahh - if the build involves recording I ASSume there is a forum thread on it at the MysticRiver forums. |
| 00:33:41 | scorche|sh | i believe a dev is looking at it, yes |
| 00:33:55 | soap | (because I ASSume it is an iRiver build) |
| 00:34:02 | exo | hello there everybody.. can anyone tell me if there is a solution to install rockbox on my Tatung Elio Tpj-1022 ? im not sure becouse i found threads saing it isnts possible, but also builds inside the CVS :( |
| 00:34:22 | scorche|sh | exo: all the devices rockbox runs on are listed on the front page |
| 00:34:38 | scorche|sh | and we havent used CVS for a while now (we use SVN now ;) |
| 00:34:44 | exo | oh ok |
| 00:34:53 | exo | too bad ...there it isnt ....damn player :) |
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| 00:35:25 | scorche|sh | feel free to port it yourself :) |
| 00:36:01 | exo | hehe yes i could try... but anyway thank you |
| 00:36:33 | Diggin_on | Yes it's an Iriver build! I like this player very much, because it has all the features I searched for when I tried to find my optimal mp3 player! |
| 00:36:51 | Diggin_on | Is the Recording Enhancement Pack a official thing? |
| 00:36:56 | scorche|sh | no |
| 00:37:05 | scorche|sh | and i dont think anyone has worked on it for a while |
| 00:37:23 | Diggin_on | Yes that's right! |
| 00:38:04 | Diggin_on | I used it a few month ago with an old rockbox build and I liked the look of the recording screen. |
| 00:38:14 | * | gevaerts expects that at the current rate, the M3 port will be done by morning |
| 00:38:20 | amiconn | haha |
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| 00:38:51 | Diggin_on | What changes are planned for the recording screen? |
| 00:39:12 | gevaerts | Diggin_on: have a look at the forums. There is a thread about it there. |
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| 00:39:49 | Diggin_on | OK, thanks! |
| 00:40:13 | Diggin_on | @gevaerts: Are you an official rockbox programmer? |
| 00:41:14 | amiconn | Bagder: You could add an M3 bootloader to the table, if we can live with one warning for a while... |
| 00:41:20 | scorche|sh | Diggin_on: you can identify people who are "official" by looking at their cloak (type /whois name) |
| 00:41:42 | gevaerts | Diggin_on: yes, since about three weeks |
| 00:41:55 | amiconn | The bootloader does what it should, apart from button detection (ADC is missing, hence no buttonas apart from main & remote Play work, plus main Hold) |
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| 00:43:48 | Diggin_on | Is it planned to support Irivers USB host mode? |
| 00:43:53 | esotericWisp | Boo |
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| 00:48:37 | * | gevaerts is now officially going to sleep |
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| 00:49:31 | esotericWisp | the golden quotes section is really funny, even that pic! |
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| 00:52:55 | esotericWisp | Its mee!!! |
| 00:53:01 | esotericWisp | my pic |
| 00:53:05 | esotericWisp | its cool |
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| 00:56:37 | Zae87 | ciA |
| 00:56:50 | Zae87 | ciao c'è qualcuno di italiano? |
| 00:58:27 | krazykit | Zae87: this is an english-speaking support channel |
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| 01:09:47 | ryran | anyone know if gevaerts is aware that usb charging (ipod 5g here) causes the cpu to stay boosted for the duration the cable is plugged in? |
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| 01:18:31 | ryran | well.. in the unlikely event I'm the first person to notice this and someone comes back and reads it later: with r16647, plugging in my 5g ipod via usb to a car-charger, wall-wart, or pc (holding down menu) during playback or with playback paused or stopped, boosts the cpu. it stays boosted until you unplug the cable. |
| 01:21:25 | ryran | I guess everyone really is asleep... |
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| 01:24:28 | scorche|sh | ryran: i think this is on purpose to speed up transfers |
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| 01:26:16 | amiconn | scorche: while charging?? |
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| 01:26:56 | ryran | scorche|sh: I figured that's WHY the behaviour has been changed, but atm it's a bug--you don't want the cpu running more when charging than it would be if you were playing music... it's crazy. |
| 01:27:07 | scorche|sh | ah...as in not with USB connection...gotcha |
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| 01:38:52 | GrooveStix | hello people |
| 01:39:23 | GrooveStix | I was wondering, is there a way to customize what is cataloged in the (music) database ? |
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| 01:40:32 | GrooveStix | (as in, how could I customize Rockbox to scan only the folders that I want to catalog?) |
| 01:41:42 | midgey | folders containing a file called database.ignore won't be added to the database |
| 01:42:40 | GrooveStix | oh awesome! so I can edit it in Notepad right? |
| 01:42:51 | GrooveStix | in windows, that is |
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| 01:43:19 | midgey | so lets say you have a folder called "Misc" on your player |
| 01:43:43 | midgey | create a file in "Misc" called database.ignore and it will be ignored |
| 01:43:56 | midgey | it can be an empty file, a renamed text file, etc |
| 01:43:59 | GrooveStix | Ohhh! just en emp... |
| 01:44:14 | GrooveStix | I see, thanks a lot! |
| 01:44:17 | midgey | you don't create a list of ignored folders in database.ignore |
| 01:44:34 | GrooveStix | right, that's what I thought you were saying |
| 01:44:37 | GrooveStix | at first |
| 01:45:11 | midgey | yeah, i just wanted to clarify :) |
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| 01:47:05 | GrooveStix | very nice, I find the database browser much better, but I have many random individual songs that just clutter it... I tend to collect full albums instead of individual songs... |
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| 01:48:36 | |NSA| | i think i killed my sansa. i had a dirctory which couldnt be deleted, so i uninstalled rockbox, but now when i try to start it up, it gets stick in "refeeshing database" in the original firmware. is the player now dead forever or is there a way to fix it? |
| 01:49:05 | linuxstb__ | |NSA|: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Unbrick |
| 01:49:23 | |NSA| | does it matter if its a c2400? |
| 01:49:27 | |NSA| | *240 |
| 01:50:52 | linuxstb__ | No. The program is called e200tool, but it works on the c200s as well. |
| 01:52:08 | linuxstb__ | (although you probably don't even need e200tool..._ |
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| 01:53:22 | GrooveStix | oh crap! I was about to ask him something |
| 01:53:24 | GrooveStix | :( |
| 01:55:40 | GrooveStix | anyway, I was trying to ask this at #ubuntu but since nobody replied I'll ask here... Is there a way to submit the hardware configuration of my laptop to somebody that in turn will provide a better driver support for me and other users? |
| 01:56:43 | GrooveStix | (sorry for the offtopicness) |
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| 02:01:27 | krazykit | GrooveStix: this is an on-topic channel, so please take off-topic channel elsewhere, even if they don't reply. |
| 02:03:11 | GrooveStix | alright alright, at least I am not interfering with anyone... |
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| 02:09:14 | |NSA| | i tried that unbrocking thing. it still gets stuck on "refresh databse" |
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| 02:19:52 | alphanumeric | is anyone online? |
| 02:20:57 | advcomp2019 | alphanumeric, yea, but you can just say what you need |
| 02:20:58 | scorche | only 119 of us |
| 02:21:28 | alphanumeric | sorry, i just figured it out. it was a database.ignore question. |
| 02:21:54 | alphanumeric | I'm relatively new to IRC (I use chatzilla), so I'm not sure what all the icons mean |
| 02:22:40 | alphanumeric | if database.ignore is set to a hidden file (on Windows), will rockbox still see it? |
| 02:23:00 | scorche | depending on your viewmode, yes |
| 02:23:29 | scorche | database.ignore is just for the databse...has not effect on the file browser |
| 02:23:33 | scorche | s/not/no |
| 02:24:02 | alphanumeric | so if I rebuild, rockbox will look for database.ignore even if it's marked as hidden? |
| 02:25:17 | |NSA| | i managed to unbrock it. but back to what started this. i have a directory that I cannot delete |
| 02:25:51 | |NSA| | *unbrick |
| 02:26:16 | alphanumeric | NSA, if you're on windows, do a chkdsk /f on mass storage mode |
| 02:27:08 | |NSA| | whats /f? |
| 02:27:25 | |NSA| | fix? |
| 02:28:04 | alphanumeric | yeah, fixes errors. you know how to do a chkdsk? |
| 02:28:44 | |NSA| | yeah |
| 02:28:50 | |NSA| | it fixed the problem. thanks. |
| 02:29:03 | alphanumeric | sure, no problem. I've had similar problems before. |
| 02:29:58 | |NSA| | if only i asked here first instead of doing random stuff which caused me to mess up the firmware and bootloader and wasted half an hour fixing that only to come back here, run a 3 minute chkdisk whiuch fixed it |
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| 02:34:17 | alphanumeric | did you try to format it first or something? |
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| 02:44:18 | |NSA| | no |
| 02:44:31 | |NSA| | it says rockbox isnt found |
| 02:44:56 | |NSA| | even though i installed it the same way as last time using the rbquitil |
| 02:46:41 | |NSA| | hmm. an old .rockbox file was interfering |
| 02:47:24 | |NSA| | now to set up all the settings again |
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| 02:57:35 | Beta2K | Anyone want to check out a schematic/board I drew up for the Gigabeat F's serial/JTAG port? |
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| 03:09:38 | Beta2K | Also, anyone around that can add give my wiki user write access? |
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| 03:19:19 | Beta2K | Good evening toffe82 :) |
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| 03:38:50 | soap | what is your Wiki Name? |
| 03:39:37 | soap | JasonStahls I assume? |
| 03:40:59 | soap | I love how the Firefox spellchecker just gives up after JosephBreihan - must be too many "misspelled" words for it to handle. |
| 03:41:14 | soap | Beta2K ^^ |
| 03:41:54 | Beta2K | Yes it is |
| 03:44:29 | soap | Do you swear on the ghost of Hagbard Celine that you are not a spammer and will only use your wiki powers for good? |
| 03:45:42 | Beta2K | I do |
| 03:45:55 | soap | I added you. |
| 03:46:02 | Beta2K | Hehehe |
| 03:46:11 | Beta2K | No "raise your right hand" ? |
| 03:46:33 | soap | I didn't want to be presumptive and assume you had one. |
| 03:52:35 | Beta2K | hehehe :) |
| 03:54:20 | Beta2K | Thanks for the help soap :) |
| 03:54:58 | kkurbjun | does anyone know of an example of $(or in a a make file or how to properly use it? |
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| 04:31:37 | Davide-NYC | JdGordon: Sorry about the post editing, I was trying to put all of my thoughts in one place. |
| 04:34:37 | Davide-NYC | Maybe I should make a wiki page? Or will that just add to the confusion? |
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| 04:45:50 | Davide-NYC | JdGordon: The thread has been fixed to be much more legible. (I hope) |
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| 05:25:02 | luchador | any video capability for 80gig ipod vids yet |
| 05:25:13 | luchador | havent updated my rockbox in a while |
| 05:27:12 | scorche | have you checked the MajorChanges wiki page? |
| 05:28:03 | luchador | i just got on irc |
| 05:28:52 | scorche | then perhaps you should read the guidelines linked in the topic if this is your first time |
| 05:30:11 | luchador | its not my first time |
| 05:30:13 | luchador | sorry champ |
| 05:30:29 | luchador | figured this was a place where people could openly ask questions to people who might be willing to openly give help |
| 05:31:06 | scorche | yes...and i gave you the name of a wiki page where you can see all of the "Major Changes" since you last updated... |
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| 05:32:42 | luchador | why cant you just answer a yes or no question broski |
| 05:33:05 | Llorean | Because we prefer to teach a man to fish. |
| 05:33:46 | luchador | lmao |
| 05:34:02 | alienbiker99 | maybe you should read the rules for this channel |
| 05:34:42 | luchador | its most likely reasons like this |
| 05:34:46 | luchador | that no one knows about rockbox |
| 05:34:56 | luchador | im not a dumbass |
| 05:35:02 | luchador | obviously if i wanted to check the wiki i could |
| 05:35:11 | luchador | but since i was on freenode i decided to ask a yes or no question to save some time |
| 05:35:12 | alienbiker99 | its for reasons like not using abreviations |
| 05:35:20 | luchador | thinking maybe the people from rockbox would be cool enough |
| 05:35:42 | luchador | not using abreviations? |
| 05:35:53 | luchador | theres a page talking about irc abreviations on the site |
| 05:35:55 | luchador | btw |
| 05:36:13 | Llorean | We ask that you use real words where possible, if it represents things you can find in a dictionary |
| 05:36:19 | Llorean | Since they pose problems for translation software. |
| 05:36:43 | luchador | you clearly understand me |
| 05:36:48 | luchador | or you wouldnt be communicating with me |
| 05:37:12 | scorche | lots of people read the logs and use screen readers here...they might not |
| 05:37:21 | Llorean | The fact that I understand you has nothing to do with the guideline. We ask that you avoid things like "lmao" and "btw" in general. |
| 05:37:46 | scorche | this channel has guidelines for a reason...if you are not willing to bother to follow them, then why should we answer your questions? |
| 05:38:43 | luchador | its a yes or no question scorche |
| 05:38:45 | luchador | i come in here and ask it |
| 05:38:52 | luchador | and you give me a ridiculous answer |
| 05:38:56 | luchador | is all im going at |
| 05:38:59 | Llorean | luchador: This channel is primarily for technical discussion and real support infos. We ask that people follow the guidelines and not fill up the logs with requests for things in the manual, because otherwise the logs would be significantly less readable. |
| 05:39:09 | luchador | if it was something complicated i could understand you telling me to go read up |
| 05:39:20 | Llorean | If everyone asked every yes/no question they had about Rockbox, this room would be a lot noisier and simultaneously a lot less useful |
| 05:39:22 | scorche | how is telling you a place where you can find all the major updates "rediculous"? |
| 05:39:50 | luchador | "ridiculous" |
| 05:39:56 | luchador | well |
| 05:40:02 | luchador | you could answer yes.. or no |
| 05:40:07 | luchador | instead of leading onto this convo correct? |
| 05:40:18 | luchador | in order to keep minimal log length right llorean? |
| 05:40:24 | | Quit Horscht ("I got raided by the FBI and all i got is this lousy quit message") |
| 05:40:35 | Llorean | luchador: How do we know you won't just do it again in the future. |
| 05:40:46 | Llorean | telling you the rules will be enforced keeps it from happening again, most times. |
| 05:40:54 | luchador | so if i answer another yes or no question in four months |
| 05:40:56 | luchador | its a problem? |
| 05:41:03 | luchador | ever heard of something called ubuntu? |
| 05:41:03 | scorche | then in order to keep minimal log length, are you willing to abide by the channel guidelines or not? |
| 05:41:06 | Llorean | Then again, most people have the common courtesy to say "Oh, I didn't read the rules and realize they were enforced. Sorry for being ignorant and violating them. I won't do so in the future." |
| 05:41:14 | luchador | do you think they got popular by being female dogs to anyone who asks a simple question |
| 05:41:33 | Llorean | luchador: Will you follow the rules: Yes/No? |
| 05:41:43 | luchador | Yes I will follow the rules |
| 05:41:55 | luchador | I don't see why you all are being so immature about this all though |
| 05:41:58 | luchador | it was a simple question |
| 05:42:07 | Llorean | And we gave you a simple answer, to which you gave complaint. |
| 05:42:07 | luchador | you could have simply stated the answer with a statement about the rules |
| 05:42:10 | luchador | asking me to obey them for the future |
| 05:42:11 | scorche | and i answered it with a place where you can find out more |
| 05:42:15 | Beta2K | It's not immaturity |
| 05:42:44 | luchador | why not say "no, this project has gone no where in the past year. but for your future information luchador please obey the rules etc etc" |
| 05:42:47 | Beta2K | Think of this, if you got asked simple yes/no questions day in and day out knowing it was involation of the channel rules, don't you think you'd get tired of it? :) |
| 05:42:59 | luchador | i wouldnt get tired of it |
| 05:43:07 | luchador | because in the end i know it helps a free project spread |
| 05:43:21 | luchador | but i guess i could be like you guys and chase away everyone |
| 05:43:31 | luchador | so practically no one knows about the project that they spend their lives on |
| 05:43:39 | Llorean | Most people actually respond "I didn't know it was so well documented, thanks" rather than getting pissy. |
| 05:44:06 | luchador | Well he didn't link me |
| 05:44:09 | luchador | he simply got mad |
| 05:44:17 | luchador | Llorean: you dont understand what im saying here |
| 05:44:26 | Llorean | luchador: I saw what he said, I don't see it as mad. |
| 05:44:26 | luchador | the fact is you people are not very social |
| 05:44:32 | Llorean | He asked if you'd checked the MajorChanges wiki page. |
| 05:44:34 | scorche | i didnt get mad...i asked if you had seen the relevant wiki page |
| 05:44:36 | luchador | i didnt say it was mad |
| 05:44:46 | Llorean | You said he got mad. |
| 05:44:49 | alienbiker99 | is it that hard to look it up in the wiki? it would have taken a minute |
| 05:44:50 | luchador | i typed it. |
| 05:44:53 | Llorean | Fine |
| 05:44:56 | Llorean | You typed he got mad. |
| 05:44:56 | luchador | not really |
| 05:45:00 | luchador | if i was already on freenode |
| 05:45:05 | luchador | whats the big deal with asking a question |
| 05:45:13 | scorche | there isnt |
| 05:45:17 | luchador | perhaps you all should get some better social skills |
| 05:45:21 | luchador | then why not answer it scorche |
| 05:45:21 | Llorean | But the big deal is that you didn't accept the answer you were given. |
| 05:45:26 | scorche | the issue comes when you make no effort yourself to see about finding the answer |
| 05:45:31 | luchador | because he didnt give me an answer |
| 05:45:35 | luchador | he could have told me yes, or no |
| 05:45:36 | Llorean | He told you exactly where it was. |
| 05:45:42 | luchador | no he didnt |
| 05:45:44 | scorche | i told you *exactly* where to find that and more |
| 05:45:46 | Llorean | Yes, he did. |
| 05:45:53 | luchador | No, he didn't |
| 05:45:54 | Llorean | luchador: He said the MajorChanges wiki page. |
| 05:46:03 | Llorean | That is *exactly* where it is. |
| 05:46:07 | luchador | Okay |
| 05:46:10 | luchador | make me load up firefox |
| 05:46:10 | Llorean | If you go to the Wiki, and type in that page name, you'll find the info. |
| 05:46:17 | luchador | goto the unorganized webpage |
| 05:46:18 | luchador | and look it up |
| 05:46:29 | Llorean | Yes. |
| 05:46:36 | luchador | when you could just be social |
| 05:46:41 | luchador | and give me the answer |
| 05:46:42 | Llorean | This isn't a social channel. |
| 05:46:58 | luchador | Llorean: let me ask you something |
| 05:47:00 | luchador | what is rockbox |
| 05:47:11 | alienbiker99 | thats on the wiki too =) |
| 05:47:21 | luchador | its an open source project correct? |
| 05:47:24 | scorche | and on the front page ;) |
| 05:47:30 | luchador | how do open source projects spread? |
| 05:47:35 | luchador | basically by word of mouth |
| 05:47:44 | luchador | if people act like bundles of sticks |
| 05:47:47 | alienbiker99 | via spy sattelies |
| 05:47:47 | luchador | then project doesnt spread |
| 05:48:27 | luchador | you guys dont really get it |
| 05:48:38 | luchador | look at a well known open source project |
| 05:48:43 | luchador | i used ubuntu as an example earlier |
| 05:48:49 | scorche | i do all the time |
| 05:48:52 | Llorean | luchador: Please, take this to the social channel if you're going to get preachy |
| 05:48:57 | Llorean | Since it's not really relevant to this channel. |
| 05:49:00 | luchador | what might that channel be? |
| 05:49:05 | Llorean | Look at the channel topic |
| 05:49:06 | Llorean | Again |
| 05:49:06 | luchador | or shall i go look it up on the wiki |
| 05:49:14 | scorche | luchador: many bigger open source channels are much stricter than we are... |
| 05:49:23 | luchador | not at all scorch |
| 05:49:26 | luchador | #ubuntu please |
| 05:49:35 | scorche | ok...so you give me one example |
| 05:49:45 | luchador | want to watch me ask a question in there? |
| 05:49:51 | luchador | think theyre going to make me go look at a wiki |
| 05:49:53 | Llorean | Please, stopl. |
| 05:50:02 | Llorean | This doesn't belong in this channel any more |
| 05:50:02 | luchador | hey btw lets look at how many people are in there scorche |
| 05:50:09 | Llorean | You said you'd abide by the rules, so live up to your words. |
| 05:50:13 | luchador | Oh wow, 1183. |
| 05:50:21 | luchador | Because they are willing to help people |
| 05:50:24 | scorche | luchador: if you want to talk more about this, come into the social channel |
| 05:50:25 | luchador | regardless of the question |
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| 06:39:40 | luchador | anyways, thanks for not answering a yes or no question because youre simply upset over the fact that you cant get something to work on an ipod video |
| 06:39:45 | luchador | get some real developers on this project |
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| 06:40:10 | Beta2K | Get us the cip docs and we'll make it work |
| 06:40:15 | Beta2K | chip |
| 06:40:57 | Beta2K | actually I tried to con the local distributor out of the docs... |
| 06:41:11 | Beta2K | They haven't called me back yet... |
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| 07:16:51 | scorche | mapiasal: you might want to have a look at the SimpleGuideToCompiling wiki page |
| 07:17:16 | scorche | patches must be compiled in |
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