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#rockbox log for 2008-03-16

00:00:26gibbon_gnah
00:00:53gibbon_if YOU don't know... to me you are something like the godfather of rockbox :P
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00:01:11gibbon_coding that usb stack ....
00:01:19gibbon_usb is a nasty beast...
00:01:24amiconnDon't mess with the global volume just because there's no station
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00:01:36BigBambiAnd it isn't even the day of his daughters wedding...
00:01:43amiconnIf you really want, use the mute function of the fm chip. But I'd rather not do that
00:02:43*gevaerts points out that he only started working on rockbox five weeks ago
00:03:11gibbon_amiconn: if this is the same function as the manual mute calls, its no good
00:03:56gibbon_amiconn: since the "field meter" data patch number 1803 gets stops updating in this "Muted state" at least on the sansa
00:04:48 Join Theglades00 [0] (n=Administ@cpe-69-205-167-7.stny.res.rr.com)
00:05:22gibbon_it seems to disable more of the chip than the term "muting" suggests
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00:06:18gibbon_amiconn: is there something in rockbox like a global "attention" function like some modern car radios have?
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00:07:36gibbon_this function reduces the volume by some ammount on keypress and restores it on manual volume change or "unattention"
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00:09:14amiconnThe voice UI reduces music volume while the voice is talking (on swcodec), but that one won't help in case of radio
00:10:19gibbon_mhm
00:10:55gibbon_amiconn: i thought as a quick way, save the current volume, set reduced volume until the station is back, then restore the old volume
00:11:01*amiconn wonders why the radio chip should be muted if it doesn't detect a station
00:11:12amiconnHow would you tune into a faint station then?
00:12:12amiconnOr imagine the volume jumping up & down, because signal strength is near the threshold...
00:12:17gibbon_when i move around while listening to radio, it happens a lot that i move into a dead corner ...
00:12:34gibbon_the noise then nearly kills me
00:13:02amiconnstrange...
00:14:01gibbon_suddenly, noise kicks in, then i mive to an area with reception and the station is back...
00:14:15gibbon_i just want to reduce volume by about 20dB while that happens
00:14:44gibbon_and limit this to the point where no signal or only a very weak is recieved...
00:15:11gibbon_so the volume will only jump a bit if the station is so weak, it can't be listened anyway
00:15:11amiconnYeah, I understand that this may happen, but I don't understand why you want to reduce the volume... the noise isn't louder than the normal audio signal at full level...
00:15:34gibbon_for the waveform, that is correct...
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00:16:03*amiconn listened to the radio on M3 today, and tuned into various station, without reducing the volume while tuning
00:16:15gibbon_from the psychoacustic side, noise is a lot louder
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00:17:03gibbon_some private stations in my area don't do agc-postprocessing and so are - in addition to that - below the optimal level...
00:19:21 Quit DC1 ("If Obi-wan ain't home then I don't know what the fsck we're gonna do. I ain't got no other connections on Tattooine.")
00:19:46*amiconn was never really annoyed by the no-station noise
00:20:40amiconnBut then I don't use the radio *that* much, and I also know that my opinion regarding certain features differs a lot from many other users
00:20:43gibbon_the other thing is that i use the player for other things than radio...
00:21:07gibbon_but also for narrow channel applications
00:22:10gibbon_the nature of FM transmissions suggests that if you youse a wide tuner to tune into a narrow channel, the output signal will have a lot less volume than it should have
00:22:49 Quit gevaerts ("too tired to find bugs")
00:23:01gibbon_because frequency defection is not as wide as the wide tuner wants it to be
00:23:36gibbon_i don't know if its the correct term... i guess not
00:26:06amiconnI know what you mean
00:26:20amiconnBut that's a pretty special usage case, isn't it?
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00:32:10gibbon_amiconn: it is :)
00:32:27gibbon_amiconn: thats why i use a firmware that i can customize for these special cases
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00:44:56gibbon_amiconn: but don't worry... i won't come crying about jumpy volume
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00:49:00amiconnRecording also works on M3 :D
00:53:41gibbon_great
00:54:03gibbon_updating signal strength with radio muted works, too :P
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01:21:48gibbon_added some defines and a few lines of code
01:21:53gibbon_lets test if it works
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01:27:20gibbon_amiconn: thanks for the help, it works great
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01:29:59GrooveStixhey people
01:30:12GrooveStixI am playing with the "database.ignore" and for some reason it's not working for me
01:30:30GrooveStix*"database.ignore" thing
01:31:04GrooveStixwould database.ignore also exclude the subfolders in a certain folder?
01:33:14linuxstbIt should do, yes.
01:34:21GrooveStixjust a moment...oh I see. I updated my database, instead of initialize, since I don't know what's the difference... so it's working now
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01:38:08GrooveStixah, that actually did it
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01:59:22asheshello
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02:01:31ashesi'm ripping video from dvd for my iriver. i've found mpeg1 works well, and seems to use less cpu than mpeg2, and i can't see the difference. i'd like the audio to be as close to original quality as possible. i tried to not encode the audio, and copy it, but rockbox won't play the audio. so i think i have to choose between mp1/mp2/mp3
02:02:02ashesif i use mp2 with a 256 bitrate, would this be better than mp3 with a 192 bitrate?
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02:02:59ashesi don't care how well it plays on anything other than my handheld player
02:03:49ashesthe audio i'm encoding is vocal
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02:09:10linuxstbI would be surprised if you could hear a difference, but I think only your ears can tell...
02:11:47asheswell
02:12:05ashesif there's no difference, then i want the one that uses less cpu
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02:21:56webguest07anyone know where to get addon for pacman on sansa c250??
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02:26:16linuxstbashes: Which iriver do you have?
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02:39:41ashesh300
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02:40:30JGabcdeHello?
02:40:40JGabcdeHello?
02:40:58JGabcde....
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03:02:07asheswhen audio and video is out of sync, but the audio never skips, what is the problem?
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03:06:30markunashes: is the video play sync on your PC?
03:06:42*markun shouldn't drink and type
03:08:16ashesseems to be okay on pc
03:09:53markunand do you have frameskip and fps limit both on?
03:10:38ashesi dunno about frameskip
03:10:48ashesthe fps is set too high
03:11:08ashesits set to 25, and it's being encoded at about 10
03:11:22markunI mean in the mpegplayer plugin
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03:11:53ashesyes. both set
03:12:02markunok, then I really don't know
03:12:06markunbut I need some sleep now
03:12:57markunmaybe someone else in your timezone can help. Otherwise you can ask again when the sun is up over europe.
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03:23:53ashesi have a 90 minute trip to the saint patrick's day parade. i need to encode some video entertainment
03:35:29countrymonkeyWhat's wrong, again?
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03:35:55syn4psewhere's the parade?
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03:36:34countrymonkeybig fat off topic
03:36:46syn4psepluginlib_actions: will that give a satisfactory PLA_LEFT for the iriver h10 5gb
03:36:57syn4pseheheh... well it's only 3/17 once a yr.
03:37:44 Nick HellDragon is now known as hd (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon)
03:38:03countrymonkeyWhat does yr mean?
03:38:31krazykitsyn4pse: please review the IrcGuidelines, as they ask you to use full words, that is, year instead of "yr"
03:38:49syn4pseokay, man. sorry. it's saturday night
03:39:09countrymonkeyI understand; it is here too.
03:41:36syn4pseanyway... so i have a flyspray for my game plugin, and she's finally working on the sims on all suggested platforms. i have to post the new diff. do i just add a comment with attachments? excuse my ignorance, i am used to being the only coder for clients and i'm green on svn
03:42:36krazykitsyn4pse: right, just add a comment with the updated diff
03:43:10countrymonkeyIt is called a task not a flyspray
03:45:48syn4psecountrymonkey: thanks. like i said, i'm green.
03:46:03countrymonkeyYou're what?
03:46:19syn4psegreen. new to this. why so hostile.
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03:46:57syn4pseanyway, never mind.
03:48:23countrymonkeysory. I have never heard that.
03:48:51syn4pseno problem. :D
03:49:34syn4psei am too full of cliche. that's what an english teacher once told me.
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03:51:58countrymonkeyWhat is it, rocnia?
03:52:28rocniawoot ?
03:52:56countrymonkeyAre you wooting about sound on m3?
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03:54:17rocniaoh :))
03:54:18rocniaRockbox is an open source firmware for mp3 players, written from scratch. It runs on a wide range of players
03:54:23rocniai didn't know
03:54:25rocnia:))
03:54:28rocniasry
03:54:38pikhq... Then why did you just join this channel?
03:54:58countrymonkeypikhq has a point
03:55:04krazykitrocnia: please read the IrcGuidelines linked in the topic :)
03:55:13rocniai was browsing the channel list, i thought it was interesting :))
03:55:28rocniai might leave now
03:55:46rocniai mean, i thought it was about something else
03:56:02krazykitrocnia: this is an on-topic channel. please take non-rockbox chatter elsewhere
03:56:18countrymonkeyoh... Rockbox is a great product. From 40 languages to customizable themes to great sound settingws to supporting about 30 daps, it can't be beat.
03:56:35rocnianice !
03:57:20pikhqrocnia: If you want to use Rockbox, though, might I recommend reading up at www.rockbox.rog?
03:57:31rocniatoo bad my iriver s10 won't have this installed :)
03:57:32countrymonkeyHave we ourselves new rockbox users? *hint hint*
03:58:18countrymonkeyawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...
03:59:00countrymonkeywhat is www.rockbox.rog?
03:59:15scorche|sha typo...
03:59:20syn4pserognia
03:59:26rocniasure
03:59:59syn4pserockbox is the coolest. everybody's doing it.
04:00
04:00:20countrymonkeyWe should have a rockbox theme song since it is for daps. I volenteer to write lyrics.
04:00:31syn4psei'll help.
04:00:42pikhqI volunteer to sing, so long as it's written for a bass.
04:00:54rocniait can be installed only on the devices presented on the site no ?
04:01:01pikhqYeah.
04:01:08pikhqAlthough it could be ported to more.
04:01:20syn4psei'll do a blistering guitar solo that will make steven jobs head explode.
04:01:28countrymonkeyI cannot sing to save my life. I'll do lyrics, and somebody else do pitches, notes, rhythems and the actual singing.
04:01:45syn4psei'll even add apostrophes
04:02:26rocniaok guys good luck with rockbox :)
04:02:41syn4pserock on, rocnia!
04:02:54rocnia\m/
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04:03:21countrymonkeyWhat tune for the theme song?
04:03:40syn4psei was thinking of the andy griffith theme.
04:03:46krazykitcountrymonkey: that's really not on-topic. same to you syn4pse
04:03:52syn4psesorry.
04:04:24countrymonkeyI had an idea of "God Bless America" (from the server, to the client, to the player, and beyond... God bless the rockbox build...)
04:05:01countrymonkeyyou're right, of cource
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04:08:11countrymonkeyWhat is it, topbloke?
04:08:36topblokehey
04:08:49topblokehas the battery life of 5.5G ipods improved on rockbox at all?
04:08:54countrymonkeyDo you have a question?
04:09:02topblokeyes I do
04:09:14countrymonkeysory. those 2 messages came in the exact same time.
04:10:22krazykittopbloke: improved since when? there was a fairly large improvement a number of months ago
04:10:23countrymonkeyI would assume so if you mean after the commit of 8379
04:10:41countrymonkeyI mean since before
04:11:14krazykittopbloke: major changes to rockbox (that would be one of them) can be found on the MajorChanges wiki page.
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04:12:04countrymonkeyWhat is it, webguest83?
04:12:15topblokelike
04:12:15scorche|shkrazykit: much sooner than that
04:12:24topblokesince
04:12:27webguest83how long does the menu on ur ipod stay there for
04:12:40webguest83mine stays there for 1-2 mins
04:12:45scorche|shcountrymonkey: please dont say that for every single person that comes it...it just gets annoying
04:12:46webguest83is this normal?
04:12:48JdGordoncountrymonkey: if you keep being stupid and asking everyone who joins what they want you will bi kicked
04:12:56countrymonkeyDepends on how lond idle power off has beem set for
04:13:04scorche|shwebguest83: eh?...not sure what you mean
04:13:21topblokemy rockbox.ipod is from March 1 2007
04:13:21countrymonkeySorry, I cannot type today
04:13:29webguest83when i power on the rockbox screen comes on and stays there
04:13:42webguest83after 1-2 minutes it finally goes to the menu
04:13:42countrymonkeyThan topbloke it has.
04:14:03countrymonkeyoh, that's what you mean. What font are you using?
04:14:12webguest83standard
04:14:16topblokewould you be able to say by how much
04:14:35topblokeim gonna give rockbox another try it has been a year
04:14:43countrymonkeyno.
04:14:46topblokeoh btw
04:14:54scorche|shtopbloke: that depends on the state of your battery...you would be best off just trying it yourself
04:14:54countrymonkeyYou are just using english, webguest83?
04:15:00webguest83yeah
04:15:12topblokeI have a custom apple firmware with graphics on it, can I use that and rockbox at the same time?
04:15:31countrymonkeyOkay. So font cacheing isn't the problem. (I remember using chinese-trad.lang)
04:15:33scorche|shtopbloke: rockbox is dual boot
04:15:50topblokebut didn't it overwrite the apple firmware too
04:15:54countrymonkeyhmm...
04:16:01pikhqNope.
04:16:07topblokewith its own copy of it
04:16:14scorche|shtopbloke: make sure to test both the rockbox firmware and the original firmware, as some people are surprised how long they last when they actually time them
04:16:21topblokeok
04:16:34topblokewell last year I felt a big difference without timing them
04:16:47scorche|shlast year there was
04:16:48countrymonkeyHow large is the .voice file if you use one, webguest83?
04:16:51topblokeok
04:16:57topblokewilll give it a shot
04:17:03webguest83i dont use anyvoice file
04:17:05webguest83that i know of
04:17:06topblokeso it won't touch my apple firmware?
04:17:22countrymonkeySo the menus don't speak?
04:17:28webguest83nope
04:17:36scorche|shwebguest83: try and reset the settings upon boot
04:17:43scorche|shtopbloke: nope
04:18:05webguest83how do i do that
04:18:15countrymonkeyThe original firmware is stored in a 1 mb flash rom unaffected by the rb bootloader.
04:18:30topblokeoh
04:18:32topblokecause you know
04:18:38countrymonkeyAt the bootloader text screen, flick hold to on.
04:18:49topblokeI actually wrote a custom firmware using the rockbox tool
04:18:56webguest83k
04:19:02topbloketo my ipod
04:19:17countrymonkeyCool, how is it better than rb?
04:19:35topblokeno it sucks its just apple with new graphics
04:19:42webguest83countrymonkey: that didnt work
04:19:50webguest83a little text box cam up saying cleard
04:19:57webguest83cleared*
04:20:06countrymonkeyConnect it to the computer and delete config.cfg in the .rockbox folder
04:20:30countrymonkeyOhmm...
04:21:07syn4pseto do a diff with my source code, since i didn't do it right the first time, i svn add apps/plugins/amaze.c? then svn diff > out.diff?
04:21:16countrymonkeyCan you hear the hdd working when you press the menu button?
04:21:37webguest83sometimes
04:21:53countrymonkeyWhen and when not? Random?
04:22:07webguest83yeah
04:22:12webguest83random
04:22:19webguest83i just deleted the cfg file
04:22:22webguest83ill try again
04:22:44countrymonkeyupdate your rockbox
04:23:05webguest83i gto it like 3 days ago
04:23:08webguest83got*
04:23:44countrymonkeyWhen did this problem start?
04:23:59webguest83as soon as i got it
04:24:21countrymonkeythe build or the player
04:24:28webguest83build
04:24:47countrymonkeydowngrade your rockbox
04:24:54webguest83how?
04:25:05countrymonkeyold daily build
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04:25:57webguest83whers that
04:26:04webguest83i can get the current build
04:26:10countrymonkeywww.rockbox.org/daily.shtml
04:26:32topblokeI tried to install the ipodpatcher thing
04:26:37topblokeI press I to install
04:26:37countrymonkeyfind the link that sais old under your player
04:26:43topblokeit just says press enter to exit
04:26:51countrymonkeywhat what what, topbloke?
04:27:08topblokeI ran ipodpatcher
04:27:19topblokeit found an ipod
04:27:21topblokeI press I
04:27:27topblokeand it says press enter to exit
04:27:42webguest83how old should i go country?
04:27:50countrymonkeyDid it install successfully?
04:27:55topblokeno
04:28:22countrymonkeyThe 13th of march
04:28:49countrymonkeyIf that's the day you updated.
04:28:55topblokebollocks
04:29:32countrymonkeyWhat does bollocks mean?
04:29:50topblokeno good
04:30:01countrymonkeyin what language?
04:30:07topblokecockney
04:30:23countrymonkeywhatever that is...
04:30:44syn4pseshould i .zip my .diff?
04:30:51countrymonkeyno
04:30:59syn4psecool.
04:31:10topblokeargh its not installing
04:31:13syn4psejust .zip the bitmaps, right?
04:31:27countrymonkeysí yes
04:31:33syn4psejawol!
04:31:48countrymonkeyWhat's jawol?
04:31:52syn4psegerman.
04:31:59topblokedon't you know any lanugages
04:32:15topblokeHELP
04:32:19topblokeit won't install
04:32:21countrymonkeyI know english, chinese, japanesde and I'm learning spanish.
04:32:44scorche|shtopbloke: give rbutil a try
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04:32:56webguest83countrythat didnt work
04:33:00topblokeok
04:33:04webguest83its still really slow
04:33:23scorche|shwebguest83: that is really odd...could you try re-installing the bootloader again?
04:33:45scorche|shwebguest83: as well, what operating system are you running?
04:33:46webguest83how?
04:33:56scorche|shwebguest83: the instructions are in the manual
04:34:18webguest83k thanks
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04:37:06topblokerbutil seems to have worked
04:37:20countrymonkeyIdesu
04:38:06countrymonkeybueno
04:38:55webguest83ok i reinstalled the bootlaoder
04:39:01webguest83now try again?
04:39:11countrymonkeyyes
04:40:02topblokewow it got recognized as a rockbox media player
04:40:33countrymonkeyYou must boot up into the apple os to transfer files.
04:40:51scorche|shtopbloke: yes...that is the beginnings of our USB support...not fully functional yet though
04:40:56webguest83that did nothing
04:40:56topblokepretty snazzy
04:41:00scorche|shcountrymonkey: or disk mode...
04:41:01webguest83its still slow
04:41:12scorche|shwebguest83: what operating system do you run on your computer?
04:41:17countrymonkeyCannot you enable a certain #define and get ums support?
04:41:19webguest83what u mean>
04:41:32scorche|shwindows, mac, linux, etc
04:41:38webguest83windows xp
04:42:05countrymonkeyWhat sort of ipod, webguest83?
04:42:38webguest83video 30gig 5g
04:42:51syn4pseFS #8647 (my 3d maze game plugin) is up if anyone wants to check it out.
04:43:03scorche|shwebguest83: plug your ipod in (make sure it is in disk mode so your computer can see it), right click it in My Computer, Properties > Tools > Check Now > check both boxes and start
04:43:11topblokewow rockbox looks sweet now
04:43:35webguest83k
04:43:37webguest83k
04:44:14webguest83how long is it normal for an ipodto restart?
04:44:27webguest83cause mines pretty slow at that 2
04:44:42syn4psewebguest83: my ipod video reboots rockbox in probably 15 seconds?
04:44:51syn4psemaybe quicker
04:44:57countrymonkey10 for me
04:45:42webguest83ok ive gone to tools and it has back up error checking and defragmentation
04:45:47countrymonkeyIs it possible that plugins will be localized/voiced?
04:46:07scorche|shwebguest83: as i said, hit check now, check both boxes, and start it
04:46:13webguest83k
04:46:13countrymonkeyDo both error checking and defrag
04:47:50topblokeI need a snazzy theme now
04:48:15scorche|shthen go get one...
04:48:18syn4psei like that phktape. it kills me.
04:48:30topblokedo themes from last year still work
04:48:32countrymonkeyor make one
04:48:52scorche|shtopbloke: that depends...some are broken, some have been updated...try them and see...
04:48:56topblokeok thanks
04:48:58topblokewill do
04:51:37syn4psewhat is the etiquette for promoting a patch?
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04:52:24countrymonkeyGet prospectors here. But they will rip you apart if you don't wait at least a week (trust me, that was me before).
04:53:11scorche|shi wouldnt say "rip you apart"...
04:53:31countrymonkeythat was a bit exagerated
04:54:14scorc