| 00:00:27 | DerPapst | Soap: yes. but i guess bluebrother wants read compiler errors and suff like that. |
| 00:00:54 | pixelma | DerPapst: beer? ;) |
| 00:01:20 | DerPapst | meh... more a lack of sleep i guess ;-) |
| 00:01:53 | Rincewind | DerPapst: did you catch the "suff"? |
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| 00:02:33 | bluebrother | ROTFL :) |
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| 00:05:06 | linuxstb | pixelma: Thanks for fixing that wps - I see it was my fault in two ways... |
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| 00:07:16 | pixelma | no problem... what do you mean with "in two ways" though? |
| 00:07:43 | amiconn | rofl |
| 00:08:09 | linuxstb | I didn't rename the reference in the wps, and then my commit to make the parser reject WPSs with missing bmps |
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| 00:10:31 | * | DerPapst should do his beautysleep |
| 00:10:49 | DerPapst | Good night everyone. :-) |
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| 00:11:16 | pixelma | linuxstb: aha, the problem already occured for someone already in the "make zip" which couldn't find the lockopen bmp. I wasn't even aware that there are more problems... |
| 00:11:34 | pixelma | s/already// |
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| 00:32:02 | kugel | linuxstb: ping |
| 00:32:13 | linuxstb | ? |
| 00:32:43 | kugel | linuxstb: I have a problem with your "Check for trailing | " "function" |
| 00:33:34 | kugel | It doesn't work with the viewport parse function |
| 00:33:50 | kugel | you might scroll back/read logs from today to read more about that |
| 00:33:53 | linuxstb | What viewport parse function? |
| 00:35:42 | kugel | the one I wrote to unify viewport structure parsing in wps and lists |
| 00:35:55 | * | amiconn wonders what a ZXbot is :\ |
| 00:36:19 | linuxstb | You shouldn't have any trailing | in the .cfg file... |
| 00:39:10 | kugel | linuxstb: It doesn't work in the wps |
| 00:39:26 | linuxstb | You mean there's a bug in SVN? |
| 00:39:50 | kugel | No. It works when I use the SVN way of parsing the wps viewport |
| 00:39:54 | Llorean | linuxstb: I think he means "I want the syntax to be identical in WPS and .cfg, and in the WPS you need a trailing |" |
| 00:40:05 | kugel | Llorean: No... |
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| 00:42:25 | kugel | The setting works (with or without the trailing | ), the list is also working. But the wps gets rejected when wps_parser checks for the traling | |
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| 00:43:15 | kugel | but only when I use my generic viewport parse function from viewport.c, and not the svn "parse_list" |
| 00:43:42 | kugel | eventhough, my viewport parse function doesn't much more than parse_list |
| 00:44:16 | scorche|sh | so are you saying that this breaks one of your patches? |
| 00:44:41 | kugel | kinda |
| 00:44:47 | Llorean | scorche|sh: He's trying to unify the parsing for both types of viewports as suggested by linuxstb for the patch |
| 00:44:53 | linuxstb | I think he's saying that his patch breaks existing functionality and wants help to figure out why... |
| 00:45:06 | kugel | I have commented out that for now, but I doubt it's wanted |
| 00:45:36 | kugel | linuxstb: also correct :) |
| 00:45:37 | Llorean | kugel: What did you add to your generic function, since it's "not much more than parse_list" it suggests it is more. |
| 00:45:54 | linuxstb | Your function will need to return a pointer to the character after the data you've parsed - i.e. a pointer to where the | is expected to be. |
| 00:46:10 | linuxstb | This is the return value from parse_list. |
| 00:46:38 | kugel | Llorean: it does actually the same the parse_viewport from wps_parser.c. As suggested, I moved the most part from wps_parser.c to viewport.c for a generic function |
| 00:47:10 | kugel | linuxstb: ahh, that could be the reason |
| 00:47:27 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: in case you needed confirmation... r16778 has much faster buffering and better responsiveness than current ones. I'm going to try r16791 now |
| 00:47:50 | kugel | I only return an int as of now, depeding of parse_list worked or not |
| 00:48:33 | pixelma | Bagder: you still around by any chance? |
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| 00:51:38 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: r16791 seems no better and no worse, although after reading the commit message it seems I could expect that |
| 00:52:15 | Nico_P | (DB and dircache are still disabled) |
| 00:54:16 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: the key here is digging deep into why that device runs contrary to all others esp. given that disk contention won't be a factor with all that stuff off. I'm gonna try to make a guinea pig of my sister's if she'll allow it. :) |
| 00:54:54 | kugel | linuxstb: thanks, that worked |
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| 00:56:09 | kugel | linuxstb: What did you say about traling | in .cfg? Should I avoid that? Should I check for that, and if it's there reject the value? |
| 00:56:39 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: could it be because of the fact that the RAM is bigger, so the audio thread would hold longer on to the disk, thus slowing buffering down? |
| 00:56:53 | Nico_P | hmm I'm not even really convincing myself :/ |
| 00:56:55 | kugel | A bit confusing. Trailing pipe in wps is a must, but in .cfg a nogo? |
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| 00:57:18 | Nico_P | the fact is that buffering is much slower now |
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| 00:57:33 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: why should it and why wouldn't it have before then? |
| 00:57:46 | Nico_P | yeah I don't see why either |
| 00:57:59 | linuxstb | kugel: Personally I would make the VP parameters in the .cfg a comma separated list - i.e. use ',' instead of '|' and no leading or trailing separators. |
| 00:58:19 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: could it be a possibility of a wrong low level setup somewhere? |
| 00:58:54 | Nico_P | the diff is far too large for me to try to understand it :/ |
| 00:59:09 | kugel | linuxstb: I personnally like the that the list viewprt syntax and the wps syntax are the same |
| 00:59:40 | jhMikeS | yeah, the diff sucks cause so much #ifdef junk was removed |
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| 01:01:21 | linuxstb | kugel: But they're not the same - there's no %V, and it's likely the WPS syntax will be extended with other things (e.g. conditionals, statusbar features) |
| 01:01:24 | jhMikeS | what sort of low-level setup? threading doesn't really get into much direct register access except tick and sleep |
| 01:01:32 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: have you seen the patch I posted earlier? (http://pastebin.ca/960166) |
| 01:01:56 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: it was a shot in the dark, I really don't know what sort of things are involved in this |
| 01:02:00 | Llorean | kugel: I'm gonna hafta agree with linuxstb here. They're similar, but they're going to diverge anyway, and comma separated lists are a more regular thing for .cfg files |
| 01:02:11 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: no, just plopped myself down here |
| 01:02:26 | Nico_P | but I guess there is some target specific code involved for low level kernel objects? |
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| 01:02:50 | kugel | linuxstb: but why did I made this generic function than? I don't quite get it, if the list viewport structure and the wps viewport structure are going to differ a lot more |
| 01:03:16 | linuxstb | Because it parses the core parts of the viewport - i.e. what goes into the viewport struct. |
| 01:03:21 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: not much at all |
| 01:04:05 | linuxstb | kugel: That's also why I made the separator a parameter to the parse_list function. |
| 01:04:12 | jhMikeS | actualy nothing is low-level. the variants have corelock and/or priority inheritance. I my tests again on the inheritance and that checked out ok. |
| 01:04:24 | kugel | linuxstb: Ok |
| 01:05:07 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: is there some kind of test I could run to help figure things out? |
| 01:05:54 | kugel | linuxstb: but back to my previous question. As of now, it doesn't matter if there's a trailing seperator in the config. Should I explicit reject the setting value, if there's a traling seperator, or leave it as it is (hoping that the user avoids traling seperator by himself) |
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| 01:06:48 | linuxstb | kugel: I think you can ignore it. |
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| 01:07:18 | Llorean | I think if they're using commas, they're a lot less likely to think there should be a trailing one anyway |
| 01:07:32 | kugel | linuxstb: That's what I think too. But I asked before someone bashes me again |
| 01:08:01 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: I can't think of anything specific atm. How's the navigation in general once you're in the menus? |
| 01:08:10 | Nico_P | it's fine |
| 01:08:43 | Nico_P | the only things that are laggy are the ones that involve passing a queue message to the audio thread |
| 01:08:57 | Nico_P | e.g. volume or entering a menu are fine |
| 01:09:09 | Nico_P | but pause/unpause takes forever |
| 01:09:16 | jhMikeS | I have an idea - try making the owner argument NULL in each queue_enable_queue_send call |
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| 01:10:40 | Nico_P | all of those calls or just buffering/audio? |
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| 01:11:36 | linuxstb | pixelma: Regarding your suggestion earlier about leaving fg/bg colour/shade blank in %V tags, I like the idea, but think that will just cause complications. i.e. when the user changes the fg/bg colour in the settings, how do we know to change those viewports? |
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| 01:12:28 | Llorean | linuxstb: Are those settings going to explicitly only change the list viewport (and anything listing it as the parent) then? |
| 01:12:38 | jhMikeS | all in playback.c and buffering.c, and voice_thread.c (to remove that from the equation). I did neglect to recheck the queue stuff. |
| 01:13:01 | Nico_P | I ended up doing all of them |
| 01:13:13 | linuxstb | Llorean: I guess eventually they won't do much at all... Unless we add the concept of "use global values" for certain viewport items. |
| 01:13:46 | Llorean | linuxstb: I honestly wouldn't mind them being removed entirely, myself. |
| 01:14:08 | Llorean | Since they don't really fit into the whole "everything is viewport defined" scheme |
| 01:15:11 | linuxstb | I think this is the dilemma - do we keep all the existing theme settings in the UI (including things like statusbar visibility) and deal with the complication, or just make everything controlled by the theme? |
| 01:16:00 | Llorean | I vote the latter. |
| 01:16:29 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: things don't seem any better |
| 01:16:50 | Llorean | linuxstb: Generally speaking, you don't change most of them except when changing themes these days anyway, I think. |
| 01:17:03 | linuxstb | Llorean: I think I do as well, but can also see the usefulness of those settings for people using text-only themes, without any viewports. |
| 01:17:23 | linuxstb | But I guess those people will just need to create themes for themselves... |
| 01:18:14 | * | kugel hates warnings |
| 01:18:23 | linuxstb | kugel: They're there to help... |
| 01:18:45 | kugel | sure, but if it works and gcc warns anyway |
| 01:18:53 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: I need to rerun the test though... I'm not certain I did things right |
| 01:19:01 | linuxstb | kugel: Are you sure it works? In all cases? |
| 01:19:04 | Llorean | linuxstb: Well, if they *really* want the option to toggle them, they can do .cfg files. But I think it's going to be minimally important, and only to a few people. |
| 01:19:14 | kugel | nah, they are very usefull. they just annoy, since they show my code is bad :p |
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| 01:19:35 | kugel | linuxstb: not entirely |
| 01:19:59 | * | Llorean means "minimally important" because only a few people use it, rather than "minimally important to those few", since I imagine to them it might be very important. |
| 01:20:08 | kugel | the viewport gets parsed correctly (in list and wps cases) though |
| 01:20:18 | Llorean | But I mean, if it complicates things much, it may just be a bad thing. |
| 01:20:51 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: do I need to update the codecs too? |
| 01:21:01 | Nico_P | I got a codec failure |
| 01:21:26 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: for that? no. |
| 01:21:33 | Nico_P | ah crap it's probably because of the latest SVN changes |
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| 01:26:18 | * | Nico_P is still getting codec failures |
| 01:26:52 | * | linuxstb is struggling to think of a good way to implement conditionals for viewports, and can just come up with an album-art specific solution - %VC for an album-art only viewport, and %Vc for a no-album-art only viewport... |
| 01:28:03 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: hmmm...that shouldn't hurt anything at all. |
| 01:29:11 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: it's just freezing now |
| 01:30:07 | Nico_P | yep... can't start audio playback |
| 01:30:12 | Llorean | linuxstb: That works for me. Can I have multiple %VCs? |
| 01:30:35 | linuxstb | Llorean: Yes (and Vc of course) |
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| 01:31:23 | Llorean | linuxstb: Though people *might* want a "Playback Status" viewport or a "Hold is on viewport" as well (people have done stuff like show the album art only while paused, or show enhanced track info only while hold is on) |
| 01:31:29 | linuxstb | Llorean: I just don't like the way that it loses the flexibility of the existing conditional system (and uses a different syntax). But given that viewports work at a level above WPSs (basically splitting a WPS into lots of little ones), I can't see how to do it... |
| 01:31:37 | Llorean | But I think the *main* one is Album Art |
| 01:32:21 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: I'll check that one out for sure. |
| 01:33:01 | webguest12 | Hi all! A couple things. I've been going through the manual for RockBox on an IPod video, and there's a lot of "this is discussed in detail in section??." With no number or link. Also, could Voicebox be upgraded to be able to generate .voice files? |
| 01:33:06 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: I changed all queue_enable_queue_send owners to NULL |
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| 01:33:47 | linuxstb | webguest12: Which format manual (html or PDF) ? |
| 01:34:01 | Llorean | linuxstb: I don't think you're going to be able to preserve the flexibility. I think you're just going to have to say "While the existing conditionals work, only this one (or these few) can be used to toggle the existence of viewports" |
| 01:34:21 | markun | amiconn: I tried a few different bootloaders including the iriver ones and the .map .lds files matched |
| 01:34:41 | * | jhMikeS tries on H10 |
| 01:35:09 | webguest12 | linuxstb: The online html version. |
| 01:35:51 | linuxstb | webguest12: Ah, it seems it's broken... It stops in chapter 5. |
| 01:36:36 | n1s | linuxstb: I broke it, bluebrother fixed it today so it should be fine tomorrow |
| 01:36:40 | webguest12 | linuxstb: Yeah I also noticed thta, something like "the controls are:" or something |
| 01:36:54 | n1s | webguest12: try the pdf |
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| 01:40:43 | jhMikeS | H10 worked just fine |
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| 01:41:08 | Nico_P | how weird |
| 01:41:25 | Nico_P | is there any target specific code in your commit? |
| 01:41:29 | jhMikeS | could there be some mutex or something getting initialized more than once? |
| 01:41:59 | jhMikeS | none except the obligatory context and core stuff |
| 01:43:51 | jhMikeS | just a few compatibility changes but those are shared on pp502x |
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| 01:55:00 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: would you mind taking a quick look at http://pastebin.ca/960166 at one point? it's a very small patch and I think it doesn't introduce any behaviour change |
| 01:55:15 | Nico_P | it makes things simpler IMO |
| 01:56:22 | webguest12 | Would send this to the person asking me to try the pdf but he/she's gone. Trying to find a section, a lot of section titles in links in the table of contents are one word, like addingmusictoplaylists |
| 01:58:37 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: shouldn't an improper status still be rejected in the Q_AUDIO_FILL_BUFFER case? |
| 01:59:29 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: at first I had written it that way but there is only one place left where a Q_AUDIO_FILL_BUFFER event it sent |
| 01:59:59 | Nico_P | I could probably even get rid of that event and just let the SYS_TIMEOUT do the job |
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| 02:01:25 | pixelma | webguest12: which pdf did you try (tried one here that looks correctly)? |
| 02:01:29 | jhMikeS | Would be more efficient to block the audio thread instead of time out all the time |
| 02:02:09 | webguest12 | pixelma: The latest one for the IPod Video. |
| 02:02:21 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: block it? |
| 02:03:30 | jhMikeS | queue_wait instead of queue_wait_w_tmo. staying blocked takes 0 computing cycles afterall. |
| 02:03:42 | Nico_P | ah, right |
| 02:04:41 | Nico_P | what is default for btw? |
| 02:05:54 | Nico_P | also, without the timeout, where would I put the code I added to the timeout case? after treating queue messages if there isn't another one waiting? |
| 02:06:54 | pixelma | webguest12: weird - I can't see anything unusual here. Maybe you could try older ones from here http://download.rockbox.org/manual/ and compare |
| 02:08:41 | webguest12 | pixelma: hmm, i'm using Adobe Reader 8, if it makes a difference. |
| 02:08:47 | jhMikeS | I guess default is just to log it |
| 02:11:09 | jhMikeS | I was just thinking queue_wait could be used when stopped. obviously the pcm buffer events have to be checked when playing. |
| 02:11:51 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: probably, yes. I'll leave that to another commit though |
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| 02:13:55 | jhMikeS | there's definitely something rotten though if setting the queue owner to NULL caused problems. |
| 02:15:18 | Nico_P | indeed... |
| 02:15:27 | * | jhMikeS tries e200 this time |
| 02:16:11 | * | Nico_P decides it's bed time |
| 02:17:16 | jhMikeS | nighty |
| 02:17:27 | Nico_P | thanks :) |
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| 02:20:27 | pixelma | webguest12: I'm using the same version, so I'm out of ideas (and should get some sleep too). |
| 02:22:59 | webguest12 | pixelma: ah ok. Also if this is ok, what is the combo box on this page for? it has querey, kick and whice or something |
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| 03:37:25 | webguest76 | hi |
| 03:37:34 | webguest76 | ok |
| 03:37:38 | webguest76 | pl |
| 03:37:57 | webguest76 | i have e200 |
| 03:38:04 | webguest76 | need help??????????? |
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| 03:40:47 | scorche | webguest76: dont do that...please have a look at the guidelines linked to in the topic |
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| 04:17:58 | jenky | can anyone recommend a decent pmp which works with rockbox well and is currently being sold? not real keen on bidding for an old gigabeat on ebay for $150+! |
| 04:18:27 | Llorean | $150 is kinda on the cheap end of the scale for actual media-player designed devices... |
| 04:18:59 | Llorean | But you can see the full list of supported devices on the front page of the Rockbox site. None of them were designed as "media" players. Just music players, or in a few rare cases, Music players + some video features |
| 04:19:16 | bd_ | Hmm, approximately where in the source are the titles for songs in the database browser assembled (ie, track number etc tacked on)? I'm trying to fix the sort order of multi-disc albums where there are >9 discs, as currently it seems to be going by asciibetical ordering... |
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| 04:19:47 | bd_ | I tried changing the obvious sprintfs in gui/gwps-common.c and screens.c to %02d but that didn't seem to have any effect |
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| 04:20:32 | bd_ | (the files in question are ogg vorbis, if it matters) |
| 04:24:13 | jenky | ok sorry.. i am after a music player |
| 04:24:34 | jenky | $150 would be cheap for a new one agreed, but not for one thats a few years old |
| 04:24:59 | Llorean | jenky: You asked for ones "currently being sold" though... which is basically "new ones" |
| 04:25:26 | Llorean | jenky: But as i said, the list of supported players is on the front page of the site, and there's a page in the wiki called BuyersGuide with a little more info. |
| 04:25:56 | jenky | i saw it |
| 04:26:00 | BHSPitMonkey | jenky, check out the site some more, and probably move this conversation to #rockbox-community |
| 04:26:14 | jenky | ok i'll ask there |
| 04:26:40 | jenky | one thing about that buyers guide; it shouldnt recommend things like the sandisk players as 'supported', when its only v1.0 that are supported |
| 04:27:10 | kugel | which player who has a remote can be compiled with arm-elf-gcc? |
| 04:27:21 | kugel | (sim) |
| 04:27:28 | Llorean | kugel: The sims are never compiled with arm-elf-gcc |
| 04:27:38 | kugel | oh, yea |
| 04:27:40 | Llorean | jenky: The buyers guide calls them V1... |
| 04:27:45 | * | kugel slaps himself |
| 04:29:15 | kugel | so, which targets have remotes? :) I need it for the customlist patch btw |
| 04:29:27 | Llorean | kugel: You mean "which have LCD remotes" |
| 04:29:38 | kugel | sure |
| 04:29:50 | Llorean | Which would be, as far as I know, the iRiver H100 and H300 series, and the iAudio Xs and Ms |
| 04:29:53 | kugel | are there any other types of remotes supported? |
| 04:29:56 | Llorean | Yes. |
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| 04:30:09 | kugel | Oh, didn't know |
| 04:30:13 | Llorean | There are non-LCD remotes for some players. |
| 04:30:25 | kugel | Sorry, I have absolutely no idea of remotes and stuff. |
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| 04:57:03 | kugel | hmm, my patch doesn't work with remotes :( |
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| 05:40:33 | Lopli1 | Are there hooks in rockbox that can be used by plugins so that the main sourcecode doesn't have to be edited? |
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| 05:43:49 | scorche|sh | the plugin API? |
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| 05:48:58 | Loplin | I didn't see any documentation on the DocsIndex page about a plugin API... is this in plugin.h? |
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| 07:13:49 | Insectoid | No more prebuilt voice files? |
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| 08:20:21 | Ranjith | hi everyone |
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| 08:25:01 | joey1 | Hi, I am using VMware to compile a build following the steps on the wiki page and have now made the zip, just wandering where i can find the zip on my computer. I cant seem to find it |
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| 08:27:42 | cool_walking_ | it should be in the folder you ran "make zip" from. |
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| 08:28:03 | Ranjith | I am intersted in bringing realaudio support in rockbox, and I have discussed the matter with linuxstb and as per his suggestion i had gone through the source code of rockbox . I want some clarifications over whether its enough to convert the floating poing outputs generated by the existing decoders to fixedpoint or is it needed to change the existing decoders to produce fixedpoint output? |
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| 08:28:47 | joey1 | cool_walking_: the problem is a can find that folder either |
| 08:29:09 | cool_walking_ | you don't know where you are? type "pwd". |
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| 08:29:52 | scorche | joey1: if you are in vmware, you need to transfer the zip off it and onto your regular filesystem through samba |
| 08:29:54 | Llorean | cool_walking_: VMWare, so he's gotta browse to it via the network share. |
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| 08:29:59 | * | scorche wins |
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| 08:30:54 | Llorean | Ranjith: It's not simply a matter of output. The processors do floating point math very slow, so most or all operations need to be converted to fixed point. |
| 08:31:04 | joey1 | ok so any ideas on how to do that? |
| 08:31:23 | scorche | joey1: it should talk about that in the wiki page |
| 08:32:53 | joey1 | oh i understand now thankyou |
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