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#rockbox log for 2008-04-02

00:01:18tge101"Error native opening input file: 0
00:01:20tge101"
00:03:16 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.")
00:03:26bluebrothertry \\.\PhysicalDrive1 instead
00:04:06ChristopherWare you running as an administrator?
00:04:11tge101yea
00:04:33ChristopherWof course you are
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00:05:54tge101"Error opening input file: 31 A device attached to the system is not functioning"
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00:07:28DerPapstmeh... no idea why this is happening
00:07:32 Quit davina ("GNU/Linux the free alternative to Windows")
00:07:43amiconndd if=\\?\Device\Harddisk1\Partition0 of=mbr.bin count=1 bs=512
00:08:05amiconnYou always need to specify the partition - and Partition0 is the whole drive. Weird logic...
00:08:26ChristopherWoh, that's why it says partitions 0 and 1 are the same sizee
00:08:31ChristopherW*size
00:09:34tge101alright, got a file with that one
00:10:03tge101open with notepad?
00:10:14bluebrotherweird. I just tried it with \\.\PhysicalDrive0 on my virtual machine and it worked fine
00:10:44bluebrothertge101: no, it's a binary file. Post it somewhere.
00:11:14tge101site suggestion?
00:11:23bluebrotherno.
00:11:30tge101or i could use the same one i guess
00:11:54tge101or not
00:11:55bluebrotherno, pastebin is for text files only. You could convert it to a hexdump first of course ...
00:12:08gevaertsDCC ?
00:12:14DerPapsthttp://91.35.254.25:83/upload.php
00:12:16DerPapstmeh :-/
00:12:22bluebrotherremembers me that my uni space won't live forever anymore ...
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00:13:38tge101it didnt like that file
00:14:31tge101http://www.filecrunch.com/file/~euhkkt
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00:15:53bluebrotherpartition table is empty
00:16:14gevaertsSo just write a new one ?
00:16:16bluebrotherwas your ipod video or photo?
00:16:16*DerPapst wonders how tge101 managed that
00:16:20tge101photo
00:16:24ChristopherWthat's what I suspected when I saw that partitions 0 and 1 are the exact same size
00:16:50bluebrotherthere isn't even a partition 0
00:17:18tge101so, bottom line, i lost everything for good?
00:17:19ChristopherWwell, in Windows "partition 0" is the whole drive
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00:17:59bluebrotherdownload this file: http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/mbr-photo60gb.bin
00:18:37bluebrotherthen write it as new mbr to your Ipod. Same dd command as before, but swap if= and of=
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00:19:01ChristopherWI'm wondering how his mbr.bin file ended up being 514 bytes :)
00:19:18bluebrotheri.e. if=mbr-photo60gb.bin of=(what you used for if the last time)
00:19:26bluebrotheryou can omit bs= and count=
00:19:40gevaertsdd if=mbr-photo60gb.bin of=\\?\Device\Harddisk1\Partition0
00:19:42bluebrotherChristopherW: windows line ending ;)
00:20:04gevaertsAlways make sure that your disk sectors have proper line endings
00:20:12ChristopherWI saw that 0d 0a at the end, but I'm wondering if dd.exe added it
00:20:17bluebrotherI think that happend in my test too.
00:20:36*DerPapst wonders if that would be a bug then
00:20:44DerPapst...and votes for yes
00:20:47ChristopherWit's no problem if he doesn't need to use it again
00:21:06ChristopherWthen again, it's possible that filecrunch.com added it
00:23:17tge101i love you guys
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00:23:24tge101its all still there
00:23:26bluebrotherwhy=
00:23:29*DerPapst guesses it worked
00:24:22*gevaerts would like to know how it happened in the first place
00:24:25DerPapstyay for "The Rockbox Rescue Team (tm)"
00:24:27bluebrothernow, beware of your ps3 ;-)
00:24:30tge101thank you so much
00:24:55DerPapsttge101: no go an MAKE BACKUPS!!1 ;-)
00:25:47tge101i put yellowdog on my ps3, and i use my ipod for all my backups, ps3 must have touched it
00:26:12bluebrotheran Ipod is not a backup ...
00:26:33*bluebrother sighs
00:26:34tge101it is when you have 2 and use one as an external hd
00:26:52tge101anyways
00:26:54bluebrotherthat doesn't make it a better backup device
00:27:00tge101thanks, i reallly really really appreciate it
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00:28:23*gevaerts doesn't see why an ipod can't be a good backup device. It's perfect for when this gigabeat fails
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00:29:19bluebrotherI meant backup device for computer data. As it seems he used it for that kind of backups
00:29:25bluebrother(or I got him wrong)
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00:30:34gevaertsWell, seems he didn't really use it as a backup device. More like primary storage
00:31:06DerPapstGood night everyone :-)
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00:31:31bluebrotherhmm, if he has linux on his ps3 -- we could've done that on the ps ;)
00:31:40ChristopherWapparently an iPod is a perfect storage device for stealing bank account information (as in "Firewall")
00:31:53bluebrothermight've been much quicker than fiddling with windows paths.
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00:32:20bluebrotherChristopherW: I found the therm "podslurping" for such stuff on wikipedia some time ago.
00:33:15bluebrother*term
00:33:18*gevaerts is going to sleep as well. Good night
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00:40:40MarcGuayamiconn: (or anyone else with an H10) I see on the RockboxTesting wiki page that you have an iriver H10. Would you mind testing http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8184?
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00:48:33Y-SignalHeyo, anybody else experience this bug where the scrollwheel of a 5G ipod won't respond after making a selection in the database by pressing right/next, and you have to press a button to make the wheel work again?
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01:04:06Y-SignalWhere can I get older builds of rockbox?
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01:07:29Y-SignalWho put the ram in the ramalamadingdong?
01:07:39Y-SignalWhy does the sun shine?
01:10:20krazykitY-Signal, they're linked to from the Current Builds page. as for your other questions, this is an on-topic channel, so keep non-rockbox chatter elsewhere
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01:30:28pirokoQuick question. The default way to create a new playlist is to select a song, choose "play next", and then add the songs you want after that?
01:30:59pirokoBasically I would like to know how to clear the current playlist and replace it with, say, a directory's recursive contents
01:31:43midkayyou can just stop playback and then select "insert" on the context->playlist menu of the directory.
01:31:48Y-Signalhold the center button on a directory?
01:32:03pirokoY-Signal: Holy crap. Street's of rage fan?
01:32:10Y-SignalYou bet
01:32:21pirokoLove that game
01:32:35Y-Signal:)
01:32:43piroko(those games)
01:33:18pixelmapiroko: make sure that the option "recursively insert directories" is enabled if you want to insert complete folders.
01:33:23pirokomidkay: But when I do that, it doesn't clear the current playlist. It adds the songs to it
01:33:29pirokoI can add recursively
01:33:36midkaypiroko: make sure you stop playback first.
01:33:40midkaynot pause, but stop.
01:33:42Y-Signalkrazykit, any idea on the scrollwheel thing?
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01:33:44midkaythat should do it.
01:33:54pirokomidkay: Ohh. Hold down play/pause on an ipod, right?
01:34:03midkaypiroko: yep.
01:34:07midkayjust for a second.
01:34:11pirokoThank you very much :)
01:34:16midkayno problem.
01:34:39pirokoSo that essentially clears the playlist right there then, huh?
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01:35:16midkaypiroko: yeah.
01:35:20midkayunless you resume playback.
01:35:26pirokoBrilliant. Truly
01:35:33pirokoRockbox just keeps getting better and better
01:36:36Y-SignalI wonder if they've fixed the crossfade=crashadelic thing
01:36:57pirokoY-Signal: I've been using crossfade just fine. What happens to you?
01:38:24pixelmaY-Signal: there was a crossfade related fix on saturday, you should just try
01:39:11Y-SignalYeah, I was helping them root out the cause on friday but haven't checked back
01:39:20Y-SignalI didn't see any of the guys I was talking to here now
01:39:37Y-Signalmaybe then I can ditch this month-old build
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01:50:51pirokoSo I'm assuming the iPod battery issue is a very low priority still?
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01:50:59pirokoIt's been quite a while since I've poked in here
01:51:52scorche|shpiroko: it has been improved a decent bit, and it depends on which ipod you have..
01:52:14piroko4G? Or I can just be directed to a page if one exists
01:54:31Y-SignalI don't know, my 5G won't make it through a workday
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01:56:20Y-SignalDangit, that scrollwheel lockup is still there
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02:39:58Lars_GGood work people, it's so wonderfull you got Rockbox to install on the 3g Nano!!!
02:40:02Lars_GNow, I'm complete
02:41:10cool_walking_Damn internet's lack of sarcasm apparency.
02:41:41Lars_GNo. No sarcasm.
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02:46:50cool_walking_Forum search seems broken: "Please try again. If you come back to this error screen, report the error to an administrator."
02:48:15cool_walking_Little help with this? http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20080401#07:13:12
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03:12:12Lars_Gcool_walking_: Anyhow I was trying to pull any commers into a lame april fool attempt
03:12:43Battousaiway to ruin it
03:12:47Battousaisheesh
03:13:41Lars_GBattousai: nobody bited
03:19:05cool_walking_I was already on my guard since it was yesterday here.
03:19:59JdGordonlol @ topic :)
03:20:18cool_walking_I thought maybe you were saying that you got caught by this other guy's april fool attempt. There was a thread in New Ports, I think, saying one of the new iPods were cracked.
03:20:37cool_walking_Looks like it's been baleeted now
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03:27:55Lars_GI was a little scared. most rockbox programmers are from the east side of the world. so maybe they disdain ap fool.
03:28:02Lars_Gor don't know/follow it at all
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03:29:58cool_walking_If they've spent any time on the internet.. they'll know what April Fools is.
03:33:26Lars_GTrue
03:33:39Lars_GI mean I do, and in my country it's called the innocent people day and celebrated in september....
03:33:47Lars_GBut the thing is.
03:34:06Lars_GAmericans, or places with predominantly americans, have learnt to tolerate Apr. 1st. even if it pisses them...
03:34:24Lars_Ga place with predominantly non-americans might be a lot more hostile towards Apr. 1 jokes.
03:34:38gromit`it is common in europe though
03:36:02cool_walking_One of my favourite sayings of all time is "Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke"
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03:39:04Lars_GHAHAHA
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03:56:18CarlMilanoHowdy, I looking for write permissons to the Wiki so I can upload a theme for the Sansa C200 <which I see there isn't area for>
03:59:09CarlMilanoHrrm, now response, I will try using a real IRC client. See ya
03:59:21cool_walking_wait
03:59:26ChrononCarl, I seem to recall some discussion to the effect of waiting for the official theme repository to be ready before making a C200 theme section
03:59:31CarlMilanocool, someone's here
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04:00:24CarlMilanoI can wait, it was wird that that section didn't exist
04:00:35CarlMilanowird -> wierd
04:00:48cool_walking_wierd -> weird :)
04:01:11CarlMilanoSorry, its late and the kids drove me nuts
04:02:40CarlMilanobrb, got to take care of somethings
04:03:12cool_walking_Shouldn't CarlSlomowitz come before CarlosEduardoCoelhoBaptistaShinagawa, since "Carl" comes before "Carlos"?
04:03:43cool_walking_Or are we just going by the whole string?
04:04:46cool_walking_Anyway, I gave you write access.
04:06:26ChrononIt does come before. . .
04:09:37cool_walking_On TWikiUsersGroup
04:10:42ChrononAh... I see.
04:10:59cool_walking_There's some unordered ones strewn at the bottom, too.
04:11:36ChrononLazy folks adding entries to the end. . .
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08:10:46LloreanLinusN: Forum search is broken again. Are you able to fix this any more?
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08:17:44LinusNLlorean: no, jeff has changed the password, so i am locked out
08:17:55*LinusN is not happy with that
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08:18:46scorchedid he even grace you with a reply?
08:19:55LloreanLinusN: i was hoping that'd been resolved by now. We have no way of fixing the broken search then. =/
08:20:16JdGordondid you get round to testing the forums on the backup server?
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08:20:57LinusNwhat backup server?
08:21:07scorchereferring to my server?
08:21:11JdGordonthats the one
08:21:15LinusNscorche: if he did, it must have ended up in the spambox
08:21:54scorcheno i havent...i have been busy gathering parts lists for various EE projects i am planning
08:22:10scorche...perhaps i should get that going sooner...
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08:22:15LinusNi wonder why the sql tables crash so often
08:22:20GodEaterwhat's going on ?
08:22:35LloreanLinusN: Buggy version of SQL, if my research is correct.
08:22:42LinusNLlorean: aha
08:22:44scorcheLinusN: i thought we were aware that it was because he is using an old version of...yeah
08:22:44LloreanLinusN: That bug is specifically fixed in the very next revision.
08:23:13*pondlife thought "Database Error" was a fairly normal Rockbox topic title...
08:23:25LinusNhaha
08:23:48scorchehrm...i have around an hour before i go to bed...
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08:26:58*scorche goes through the SMF installation docs
08:27:37pondlifeHmm, can anyone else reproduce http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=16195.0 ?
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08:30:53ChristopherWpondlife: I've had that happen a few times, even recently. I can't reproduce it reliably, though
08:30:58JdGordonwow thats farked
08:31:10JdGordonI think thats happened to me once or twice also
08:31:16pondlifeWith Oggs?
08:31:36JdGordondont remember
08:31:47ChristopherWI've had it happen with a playlist full of MP3's only (I think)
08:31:51JdGordonunlikely though, 90% of my music is mp3
08:32:02pondlifeChristopherW: Which device?
08:32:09ChristopherWSansa e280
08:32:27ChristopherWw/ r16918
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08:34:18pondlifeHmm, Marc_Guay correctly points out that http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide has no Archoses. I assume they're just as buyable as most of our targets...
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08:34:42sandboxcan the hard drive in the iaudio x5 be replaced?
08:36:04pondlifesandbox: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement indicates it can
08:37:51JdGordonBagder: can you stick "ads" or something above the ad box so people dont get confused by them thinking they are rockbox related lines?
08:37:55JdGordonlinks*
08:38:14*JdGordon saw downloads and went "wtf?"
08:38:28*pondlife also noticed that
08:39:04scorchei suggested a "Why do we have ads?" wiki page link
08:39:56sandboxthanks pondlife
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08:40:44SeverianHowdy. I want to try Rockbox again. I used it a year ago on a iRiver H10/20gb, which I thought was more trouble than it was worth. Sansa players look reasonable if I can find version 1 devices. Does anyone know a good source of v1 players?
08:42:16SeverianI am not necessarily sold on the Sansa. I just want something not expensive, and with easily replacable batteries.
08:46:03cool_walking_Severian: There are some Sansa's here ( http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=16047.0 ), but it's a gamble whether you get a v1 or v2, although people in that thread reported getting v1's.
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08:51:57Severianthank you cool_walking_ I checked and they don't deliver to my country. I am in the USA. It was worth a look. Newegg has a sale on the same unit, but no comments about them being version 1.
08:52:29espereguEy... I am looking for a playback option that does not seem to be available (is that possible ;-)) on the Rockbox I am using. It would be play the current song, stop after playing that song and continue on the next song when pressing play again. (I suppose that will be very easy to implement ;-))
08:53:12esperegu(or is it already available and am I not reading the playback settings correctly?? )
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08:58:42LinusNesperegu: no, that is not possible with rockbox
08:59:09LinusNesperegu: for studying? or dance lessons?
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09:00:19LinusNthis has been requested several times before, perhaps it's time to implement it...
09:02:52espereguLinusN: yeah. for theatre
09:03:02LinusNfigures
09:03:11espereguLinusN: thinking of it.
09:03:32espereguI think that it should pause, not stop at the beginning of the next song.
09:03:37*GodEater 's microsdhc card arrived last night. He is currently attempting to fill it up.
09:03:43LinusNi guess the new playback mode would be "pause between tracks"
09:03:45espereguso it will start immediately when pressing plai again
09:03:52espereguyeah
09:04:14espereguLinusN: that would be pretty simple to implement right?
09:04:21LinusNhopefully...
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09:08:06espereguLinusN: you gonna give it a try?
09:08:36LinusNwe'll see
09:08:52pondlifeSeverian: FWIW, I got a v1 c240 from bigpockets...
09:10:11pondlifeGodEater: Where's good for cheap SDHC?
09:10:29pondlife1GB is far too easy to fill
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09:11:27espereguLinusN: thank you!
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09:15:47espereguare there plans already to support more ipod versions?
09:15:56LinusNno plans
09:18:57espereguwhat are suggested deviced one should buy?
09:19:38markunesperegu: the more-or-less planned ports are unders New Ports here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome
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09:20:12markunesperegu: and this might help you decide which player to buy: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide
09:20:14esperegumarkun: cool thx
09:20:24esperegucheckin this now: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide
09:20:30markun:)
09:21:11espereguhmm.. all out of production :-(
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09:22:15markunesperegu: yes, by the time we finish a port they usually are out of production