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#rockbox log for 2008-04-05

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00:05:23dexenhello
00:05:47Nico_Ppixelma: scrolling on the H300 version of boxes looks really nice :)
00:05:58roolkupixelma, seren: you can also use: convert -append volume*.bmp volume.bmp
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00:07:39pixelmaNico_P: I would have been interested if the old version even failed to load (it did here with the H300 sim with the frame bitmap, IIRC. But I'm not a 100% sure if it wasn't due to another change)
00:08:00pixelma"image buffer full"
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00:08:25Nico_Poh I didn't test and now I've removed my H300 sim
00:08:36Nico_Pbut you made that WPS much cleaner apparently
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00:08:37pixelmanot so important
00:08:48dexenSay, are there any builds of RockBox for Sansa e280 v2? anything thad build and boots would do...
00:08:58gevaertsdexen: no
00:09:22pixelmaNico_P: but I remember exactly that the Ipod Video one's failed when I added the coloured rating (with the mono ones it still was ok)...
00:09:36dexengevaerts: is it being worked on at all?
00:09:48dexengevarets: any devel branch in SVN or sumthin'?
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00:10:51pixelmaNico_P: and forgot to say: thanks :) now only 3 more to go (the hardest will be Rockboxed...)
00:10:52Nico_Ppixelma: btw, I was wondering why there are those magenta placeholders on the backdrops for (Un)iCatcher
00:11:12gevaertsdexen: I don't really follow this, but I think there is no working code at all yet. I'm not sure if people are actually working on that
00:11:27Nico_PIMHO they should go (I do know you didn't put them there though)
00:11:40Nico_PI just felt like mentioning it :)
00:11:54pixelmaI don't know, I guessed it is from some old version and they don't hurt so I kept them. At least it lets you see if your positioning is off...
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00:12:24Nico_Ptrue
00:13:01advcomp2019dexen, you can look in the new ports in the forums to find out too
00:13:04dexengevaerts: thanks for the info~
00:13:16dexenthe forum seems to be down >>
00:13:32BigBambiYes, unfortunately they are
00:13:54BigBambidexen: You can check the thread at some point in the future :)
00:14:35dexenthat's a quite unfortunate development, when cash is buring my pocket ;_
00:14:38dexen;)
00:15:05advcomp2019dexen, do you have a v2 right now?
00:15:48dexennot yet
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00:16:14dexenbut it seems i can't get more than 4GB otherwise than by buying a v2
00:16:32dexenor, perhaps, wait & watch out for some second-hand v1 to surface
00:16:43dexeni'm living in a mid-sized country, you know >_>;;
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00:17:10advcomp2019shoot.. you are in poland.. never mind then
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00:18:31dexenum, well
00:19:35amiconnBah, what's the deal with ! being special in bash?
00:20:16amiconnUsing it unescaped isn't possible, and escaping it includes the escape char...
00:20:24Nico_Pit lets you recall a previous command, but isn't it fine between quotes?
00:20:37dexenamiconn: try using the `rc' shell
00:20:45gevaertsrc ?
00:20:51dexenit's much nicer than Bash
00:20:55amiconnI'm on cygwin...
00:20:56dexenand it considers ! a normal character
00:21:02*gevaerts never heard of it
00:21:12dexen`rc', from the Plan 9 OS
00:21:38dexenhttp://swtch.com/plan9port/ POSIX port of it
00:22:07dexenhttp://swtch.com/plan9port/man/man1/rc.html the shell's man page
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00:23:16dexeni'm using the shell daily for various scripts >_>;;
00:23:37gevaertsLooks nice. Anyway, this is really off-topic here :)
00:24:38*dexen nods
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00:38:26RoTtEHello, i have installed rockbox on my sansa, works grate! and i wold like to install it to my Ipod Vide 30.gig
00:38:55RoTtEis there any uillity for that to?
00:39:10pixelmayes, it's called the manual ;)
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00:39:38gevaertsHow did you install on sansa ? The normal utility, "rbutil", works for most or all supported players
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00:40:15RoTtEi used rbutil-0.1a-setup.exe
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00:40:50RoTtEand i can only see iriver and sansa in the menu
00:41:43pixelmaare you sure about that version number? When and where did you get it (from)?
00:42:18RoTtEYou can download Rockbox Utility for Windows from
00:42:18RoTtEhttp://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~christi/misc/rbutil-0.1a-setup.exe
00:42:25RoTtEgoogle it
00:42:31RoTtEhttp://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2005-12/0106.shtml
00:43:23pixelmathat's a really old one http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility and http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-60002
00:43:34pixelmais more up-to-date
00:43:42RoTtEtank you so much :=)
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00:44:35RoTtEon my sansa i have a few games and appelications, is it posseble to install more of them?
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00:46:19gevaertsEverything that is considered 'ready' is included.
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00:48:37MaxxTwaynebonjour bonjour
00:49:18MaxxTwaynehelo
00:49:21MaxxTwaynehi
00:49:28MaxxTwaynegutentag
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00:49:39advcomp2019MaxxTwayne, hello
00:49:49MaxxTwaynefinally someone
00:49:54pixelmaonce would have done...
00:50:54gevaertsMaxxTwayne: on irc (especially on technical channels) it's quite normal not to get an answer for some minutes. Also, if you look at the topic, it links to a page explaining all this...
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00:52:04MaxxTwaynei'm used to get answers quite fast on IRC
00:53:17gevaertsYou often get answers reasonably fast here as well, but only if you actually ask a question
00:53:20MaxxTwaynei'm used to get answers quite fast on IRC ?
00:53:33MaxxTwaynesorry
00:53:40chrononMaxxTwayne: This channel is logged, so we try to keep discussion on-topic for those who read it later.
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00:54:04MaxxTwayneok, so i'll try to make it fast
00:54:28Nico_Pif it's ontopic you can take your time
00:54:36ChrononIt's not quite like that. I just don't tend to respond unless necessary.
00:55:23MaxxTwayneis there a known solution for the "can't load rockbox.ipod" problem ? On a nano
00:55:24netrexis the only way to check if an unsupported player will be supported to post about it in the Wiki? Like the iRiver PMC-120
00:56:03gevaertsnetrex: the only way to know if a player will ever be supported is to do all the work yourself...
00:56:12linuxstbMaxxTwayne: That means you haven't installed Rockbox - just the bootloader.
00:57:14MaxxTwaynelinuxstb: Well, i've unzipped on my ipod, got the directory at the root of the ipod
00:57:24MaxxTwaynewhat else should i check ?
00:57:29linuxstbWhat is the directory called?
00:57:38MaxxTwayne.rockbox
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00:58:03ChrononIs there a rockbox.ipod within that directory?
00:58:15MaxxTwayneyes, there is
00:58:17linuxstbAnd your ipod is FAT32 formatted?
00:58:25MaxxTwayneyes, it is
00:58:33linuxstbWhat else does the bootloader say, apart from "can't load rockbox.ipod" ?
00:58:34ChrononWhat instructions did you follow to install?
00:58:36netrexgevaerts: yes, of course, I just don't have any other iRiver players to check with as it's not sold here in Europe as far as I know, and I don't know anything about programming this way :/
00:58:38pixelmais this a new installation?
00:58:49*Chronon wonders if the bootloader is the correct version
00:59:47MaxxTwaynelinuxstb: says the usual things in this case, it gaves keys t reboot and start in disk mode
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01:00:15linuxstbWhat usual things? It displays different things depending on the reason it can't load it...
01:00:16MaxxTwayneChronon: i followed the manual i found on the rockbox site for the ipod nano
01:00:57MaxxTwaynelinuxstb: i'll restart it and check
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01:04:26MaxxTwaynelinuxstb: the given reason is "file not found". Do you want anything more ?
01:05:00linuxstbMaxxTwayne: No, that's pretty conclusive... Did you format your ipod yourself?
01:05:12linuxstbForget that question...
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01:18:36amiconnMaxxTwayne: What's the bootloader version?
01:19:18MaxxTwayneamiconn: 2.0
01:26:31MaxxTwaynesorry guys, but got to go
01:26:33MaxxTwaynebye
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01:32:02mcuelenaerehow does ubs-drv-xxx know how an endpoint must get set up?
01:32:08mcuelenaereusb*
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01:32:31gevaertshmm. Let me check
01:32:48mcuelenaerethere doesn't seem to be a call from usb_core
01:33:06mcuelenaereso I suppose usb_drv gets the data from some structs out of usb_core?
01:34:06gevaertsActually, right now the endpoints are hardcoded (except for the packet size)
01:34:40gevaertsI need to change that one of these days
01:35:00mcuelenaerein? usb_drv or usb_core?
01:35:07mcuelenaerecan't seem to find them..
01:36:28mcuelenaereah never mind, got them
01:36:40gevaertsinit_endpoints() and init_bulk_queue_heads() in usb-drv-pp502x.c are basically it IIRC. On the device side basically every endpoint is associated with a queue head
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01:38:24mcuelenaereare queue heads specific to the pp502x usb driver?
01:39:45gevaertsYes and no. Queue heads are pretty usual on host controllers, and the pp502x controller re-uses them on the device side, but from what I've seen other controllers seem to be different
01:41:45mcuelenaereso all endpoints (2) are currently set as BULK ?
01:42:34gevaertsActually, I forgot init_control_queue_heads() for the endpoint 0. But yes, the other two are currently bulk
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01:47:35mcuelenaereisn't usb_drv_ack() implemented?
01:48:07gevaertslooking...
01:49:32gevaertsapparently not. Also not used
01:49:45mcuelenaereok
01:50:47gevaertsI probably replaced that with ack_control() in usb_core.c at some point. If it needs to come back as a non-static function, I think it will be as usb_core_ack()
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01:58:39erillanoshi i have a question about the video player on the ipod nano 1st gen wen i try to play a video on part of the video is shown not lenght wise but screen size is there any was i can change the resolution on the player
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02:00:23linuxstbyou need to encode it to your LCD's resolution (176x132)
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02:10:39mcuelenaeregevaerts: how is the usb stack triggered? has this to do with usb_detect() in usb-<target>.c ?
02:12:17gevaertsyes. usb_detect gets called from usb_tick() in usb.c. This sends an internal event that eventually results in usb_enable() in usb-<target>.c
02:13:01mcuelenaereand usb_enable() has to call the usb stack?
02:13:56gevaertsusb_enable calls usb_core_init(), and after that it's basically device dependent. On PP502x the rest is interrupt-driven
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02:15:20gevaertsNotifications are passed through the event loop in usb.c which slightly complicates the code, but otherwise the actual usb driver would need its own thread
02:16:38mcuelenaeredoes the usb stack compiles as a bootloader? because it complains about a missing UNCACHED_ADDR()
02:17:08gevaertsI never tried
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02:37:22dewarrn1I've got a quick question; has the USB handling or stack changed in recent builds of Rockbox?
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02:39:22dewarrn1I ask because I updated yesterday and now my FreeBSD box is throwing a kernel panic when I connect my iPod.
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02:39:49dewarrn1Whereas the two used to play together quite nicely.
02:40:34dewarrn1Or is this the wrong place to ask?
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02:41:36Gr34t3stCan anyone help me witth dual-booting on a sansa e200r?
02:41:57Chronondewarrn1: it's a fine place to ask. I don't know the answer.
02:42:25ChrononGr34test: Are the instructions in the manual not working for you?
02:42:32dewarrn1K, thanks.
02:42:40Gr34t3stjust thought it would be easier and quicker to ask here.
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02:43:31ChrononAh.. well, I hold "<<" (i.e. Left) while booting to get into the sansa firmware on my e280.
02:43:47ChrononBut please give the manual a read. THere's a lot of info in there on basic usage.
02:44:01Gr34t3stthanks
02:45:30toffe82does anyone has the email of Derpapst ?
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02:48:12advcomp2019Gr34t3st, yes, you can.. i have an e280R and it works great
02:49:39Gr34t3stalright I booted into original firmware but can I get different custom builds and boot to all of them?
02:51:12advcomp2019you can but rockbox will not support the custom build tho
02:51:37Gr34t3stwell I don't need the custom build.
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02:53:58Gr34t3stAnd what exactly are the H3mods?
02:54:26advcomp2019that is way different from rockbox.. so it is offtopic
02:54:41ChrononYou could always Google. . .
02:54:45Gr34t3stok
02:54:50Gr34t3stthat was plan b
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03:15:41NuminakSorry to bother, but with the forum unaccessable, I've come across a problem I can't resolve. I have the Sansa e250, and it is no longer reading any files I put onto it. It was working fine earlier and for the past week, but today I shut it off and when I turned it back on none of the files will show up in their folders.
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03:20:02FebsNuminak: what is your "Show files" setting?
03:21:30NuminakLet me check.
03:23:27NuminakI'm not sure, but I went ahead and did 'show all files' and they showed up again. Not sure what happened there, but thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
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05:10:33Rogue84anybody know how to put songs on ipod in linux thanks
05:10:59Rogue84like what directory
05:11:04scorche|shjust drag them over
05:11:23Rogue84I did but it doesn't see them
05:11:26scorche|shany directory you want....most people make a dirctory called "Music" or something liek that though
05:11:42scorche|shwhat doesnt see them?
05:12:01Rogue84I did but they are on the ipod but the ipod doesn't see them
05:12:22scorche|shwhat way are you trying to see them?
05:13:04Rogue84on the ipod once it is disconnected from the computer
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05:13:33scorche|sherm...is this in rockbox?
05:13:57Rogue84no just ipod didn't run rockbox yet
05:14:05scorche|shok....this is #rockbox...where we talk (surprisingly) about rockbox...
05:14:24Rogue84okay just thought I would ask thanks anyway
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05:19:20`Tanner`Hi, i have a ipod video (5g) and i can't get it to stop recording, any tips ? (I already rebooted and deleted config.cfg)
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05:25:32scorche|sh`Tanner`: did you check the manual for how to get out of the recoridng screen?
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05:50:44deameyeson the sandisk sansa c200 is there a limit to the size of microsd card that can be used when running RockBox?
05:54:11advcomp2019deameyes, you can use microsdhc cards but you cant use OF to transfer to them.. i have heard it might be buggy too
05:54:28scorchenot any that has been reached by actual cards
05:55:29deameyesand the c200 doesn't have a v2 like the e200, correct?
05:55:55advcomp2019the c200 does have a v2
05:56:15deameyesis it unsupported like the e200's?
05:56:29advcomp2019yep
05:56:47advcomp2019(like the e200v2)
05:57:25deameyesalrighty, suppose I'll just wait on the e200 and just work with my 1g nano in the meantime, thanks for all the info
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06:46:21scorche|shi
06:47:09Mouser_Xo, u, and sometimes y?
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07:08:13scorche|shforgot e?
07:10:31Mouser_XYou said "i," which a and e fall before. I just picked up where you left off.
07:11:35*scorche|sh shrugs and directs further traffic towards -community
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09:47:48J-23How can I checkout Rockbox SVN repository? "svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/trunk rockbox" returns "svn: No repository found in 'svn://svn.rockbox.org/trunk'"
09:49:03scorche|shbecause that isnt the correct URL
09:49:57J-23hmm, "svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox"
09:50:00J-23thanks.
09:50:03scorche|sh;)
09:50:16Mouser_XBeat me to it.
09:50:23Mouser_XNot a surprise. I had to look it up.
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