| 00:00:14 | Bagder | krz: well, I can tell you that I don't believe in working with a highres version that "compiles" into target versions |
| 00:00:27 | amiconn | Nico_P: Happens both with FLAC and MP3 VBR |
| 00:00:37 | Bagder | and I think the people who have done themes for many targets will agree |
| 00:00:52 | Bagder | but that's all details |
| 00:00:59 | Nico_P | amiconn: I tested with MP3 VBR... does it also happen to you without shutting down? ie let it stop and resume |
| 00:01:15 | Nico_P | I also start on the last song in the dir for my testing |
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| 00:01:29 | amiconn | Maybe it works when playing one album without interruption, but that's not my typical usage case |
| 00:01:52 | Nico_P | I don't think that would change things... are you up-to-date btw? |
| 00:01:56 | amiconn | The typical resume is not from the start of a song |
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| 00:03:48 | krz | Bagder: sure it will not completely copy wps, but it will preserve layout as much as possible |
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| 00:03:57 | Nico_P | krz: I'm also not convinced a unified format for all targets is feasible |
| 00:04:03 | amiconn | D'oh - H180 is still at r1625 |
| 00:04:12 | amiconn | *r16925 |
| 00:04:30 | DerPapst | time to update i'd say :-P |
| 00:04:34 | Nico_P | amiconn: you need at least r16955 IIRC :) |
| 00:04:38 | amiconn | Meh, current will give me those nasty wrong indices in wps... but I'll try :/ |
| 00:04:51 | kugel | r16999 is latest |
| 00:04:57 | Nico_P | amiconn: oh come on, they only last for a couple seconds ;) |
| 00:04:58 | kugel | I wonder who will go for r17000 |
| 00:05:16 | Nico_P | really? 16999 already? I *haveù to commit! |
| 00:05:27 | amiconn | Nico_P: Yes, but for some reason this is most often the time when I check the displayed track info |
| 00:05:46 | krz | Nico_P: generally it will preserve layout, this will help to modify wps for new targets |
| 00:05:52 | kugel | Nico_P: Gogo! |
| 00:05:54 | Nico_P | amiconn: I really want to solve it, but I need to find a way that won't break anything else |
| 00:06:20 | kugel | Nico_P: Commit a manual change or something but do it !! :P |
| 00:06:22 | Nico_P | my plan is to rewrite audio_check_new_track actually |
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| 00:07:51 | pixelma | krz: I believe in "doing everything explicitely for one screen (resolution, colour depth". I'm pretty sure that even "preserving" a layout would work. Do you know all the different display sizes, colour depth, screen orientation of players Rockbox runs on (not to forget remote screens etc.)? |
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| 00:08:03 | pixelma | eh, wouldn't |
| 00:09:16 | Nico_P | kugel: IIRC the discussion about the smooth resize was that it could be made simpler/smaller |
| 00:09:38 | kugel | Nico_P: But then having it in the core? |
| 00:09:48 | Nico_P | but let's face it, noone has tried to and I don't see it happenning with rotting in the tracker |
| 00:09:52 | * | pixelma counts 14 cabbiev2 versions... |
| 00:09:53 | amiconn | Nico_P: I've now updated the H180, and have an album playing. Will report back when it ends |
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| 00:09:59 | Nico_P | amiconn: thanks |
| 00:10:04 | amiconn | This one is FLAC, btw |
| 00:10:09 | kugel | Nico_P: Mainly since the creator retired from contributing |
| 00:10:24 | Nico_P | kugel: well he merely ported the algorithm |
| 00:10:56 | kugel | Nico_P: I just had the idea the remove those cases for scaling in 1 direction, and take only the part where aspect ratio is kept |
| 00:11:04 | Nico_P | I think it can't hurt to have it in the pluginlib, and if/when we decide to move it into the core, we can optimise it then |
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| 00:12:15 | Vampiryan | . |
| 00:12:18 | Vampiryan | hi all |
| 00:12:36 | Nico_P | I think I'll leave all special cases in for now |
| 00:12:52 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: got r17000! |
| 00:12:54 | kugel | I wonder a) why simple resize isn't in the core and b) if someone compared the performance of smooth resize against simple resize |
| 00:13:06 | jhMikeS | \o/ |
| 00:13:13 | kugel | jhMikeS: Weeehh! |
| 00:13:46 | moos | amiconn had the 16000th IIRC :) |
| 00:13:50 | * | jhMikeS looks forward to 20000 |
| 00:14:00 | bluebrother | a general rule is that thing that could be done in advance should be done in advance. Like decoding images to bmp or scaling them. |
| 00:14:13 | amiconn | eek |
| 00:14:13 | bluebrother | or rendering fonts, ... |
| 00:14:25 | * | amiconn got I08: PrivVio on iriver |
| 00:14:52 | * | amiconn wonders how that's possible as we're running in supervisor mode... |
| 00:14:58 | Nico_P | just with audio playack? |
| 00:15:19 | BigBambi | However with bmp resize it would a) allow you to use any WPS without needing a PC to resize your entire collection, and b) having multiple versions of every cover |
| 00:15:25 | amiconn | No, it's something in my remote lcd driver code. I'm reworking it because of the reported failures |
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| 00:17:09 | jhMikeS | amiconn: the #0x2700 in the remote drivers should really be #0x2500 since audio DMA isn't normally masked. |
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| 00:19:24 | petur | jhMikeS: any hints what could be causing my crashes in thread.c in the h300 bootloader? If I add a sleep() in iriver_h300.c on line 302 (before usb_init) I get AddrErr and IllInstr |
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| 00:21:22 | jhMikeS | is there anything inclined to use something too early? any task switching calls will also enable interrupts. |
| 00:21:32 | amiconn | copy&paste error... |
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| 00:22:10 | petur | this is well after interrupts are enabled |
| 00:22:25 | TaylorKillian | hello all |
| 00:22:49 | TaylorKillian | just wanted to let you guys know that i updated my application (ARM Emulator) |
| 00:22:51 | jhMikeS | petur: I'll have a closer look. |
| 00:23:04 | TaylorKillian | anyways, let me know if you have any further questions |
| 00:23:20 | tomcat_ha | so my itunes cant see my ipod 5.5 gen at all |
| 00:23:33 | tomcat_ha | so i cant use the restore option to try to get my ipod working again |
| 00:24:08 | tomcat_ha | any other way to restore my 5.5 gen ipod? on windows home media center edition |
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| 00:25:26 | tomcat_ha | i also tried dskchk |
| 00:25:32 | jhMikeS | petur: weird since there is a big long sleep way before it |
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| 00:25:44 | petur | jhMikeS: yes |
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| 00:26:26 | gevaerts | TaylorKillian: thanks for letting us know :) |
| 00:26:37 | petur | jhMikeS: it has nothing to do with the sleep() itself, but with timing. If I add printf() in between I can also get the crashes. Or it just plain hangs. |
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| 00:27:18 | Nate101 | i have a question about videos on my ipod |
| 00:27:28 | petur | I feel there is some bug there that for some reason only happens on my h380 :/ |
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| 00:28:30 | * | jhMikeS wonders about system_init and kernel_init being so late in the game |
| 00:28:30 | Nate101 | some movie files i have when i try and sync to my ipod video (30gb) are invalid types but windows media player will play them? what are valid types.. |
| 00:28:50 | BigBambi | MPEG 1/2 |
| 00:29:07 | BigBambi | at the correct resolution etc |
| 00:29:20 | BigBambi | See www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginMpegPlayer |
| 00:29:39 | BigBambi | Sorry, www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginMpegplayer |
| 00:29:42 | Gartral | in short: rockbox is picky |
| 00:29:47 | BigBambi | No |
| 00:30:00 | gevaerts | Gartral: you're welcome to implement more codecs |
| 00:30:03 | BigBambi | It only plays the formats it has a decoder for |
| 00:30:20 | Gartral | at a designated resolution |
| 00:30:21 | jhMikeS | petur: if any of that could touch threading in any way there could be problems |
| 00:30:30 | BigBambi | And at the correct resolution, as it is an MP3 player, not a PC |
| 00:30:53 | Nate101 | wouldnt it just resize the resolution tho? |
| 00:30:56 | petur | jhMikeS: any of what? |
| 00:31:02 | BigBambi | Virtually all the targets cannot resize a video on the fly, it just isn't powerful enough |
| 00:31:26 | jhMikeS | petur: any of the code before system_init/kernel_init |
| 00:31:31 | Nate101 | oh...i was wondering cuz for some reason it can do it for my movie |
| 00:31:47 | BigBambi | No, it can't |
| 00:31:57 | BigBambi | Rockbox does not resize movies |
| 00:32:07 | * | petur feels unsafe about trying a bootloader with code changes that early. Must ask LinusN :/ |
| 00:32:09 | Nate101 | no i mean on my regular ipod, im trying to install rockbox now |
| 00:32:24 | BigBambi | Do you have a Video IPod? |
| 00:32:31 | Nate101 | yes |
| 00:32:42 | BigBambi | It has an additional video decoder chip that we don't know how to use |
| 00:32:44 | Nate101 | i just got it from my sister, we traded cuz she doesnt like hers and has never used it |
| 00:33:00 | BigBambi | But in many cases, itunes does stuff on the way over |
| 00:33:01 | Nate101 | oh alright, but i can still use rockbox right? |
| 00:33:04 | BigBambi | Yes |
| 00:33:04 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Late? They happen as the first 2 things in init() (just with the coldstart detection on SH before it) |
| 00:33:13 | Nate101 | ok cool cuz i had ipod nano 2nd gen and i couldnt before |
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| 00:33:31 | Nate101 | also before i couldnt find the bootloader, where is it? |
| 00:33:37 | BigBambi | Nate101: But with the Ipod video only, you are probably better off watching vids in the Apple firmware, and doing everything else in Rockbox |
| 00:33:49 | BigBambi | Nate101: Full instructions are in the manual, please read it |
| 00:33:54 | Nate101 | ok |
| 00:34:47 | Vampiryan | good night |
| 00:34:54 | jhMikeS | amiconn: the iriver bootloader does a bunch of stuff before it |
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| 00:35:21 | amiconn | AH, bootloader |
| 00:35:49 | Nate101 | so i can do everything in rockbox and still watch videos off apple firmware? |
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| 00:36:07 | jhMikeS | If it's guaranteed to not touch the kernel stuff then it's safe. |
| 00:36:19 | BigBambi | Nate101: Yes, the manual tells you how to dual-boot |
| 00:36:31 | jhMikeS | petur: Is only the H380 doing this? |
| 00:36:31 | amiconn | Well, the ON button detection needs to be done as soon as possible, hence it's above. |
| 00:36:57 | petur | jhMikeS: yes, with my 40GB disk it boots fine |
| 00:37:36 | petur | but the 80GB disk attached to my h320 also boots fine |
| 00:37:59 | amiconn | It's done "by hand", i.e. shouldn't influence any kernel stuff. The rtc check is probably necessary too. |
| 00:38:45 | Nate101 | do i need to install a theme now or can that be done at a later date |
| 00:39:05 | BigBambi | Whenever you like, but make sure to install the font pack |
| 00:39:28 | Nate101 | ok and i can install games later too? |
| 00:39:57 | jhMikeS | petur: Hard to say at this other than something trashing the thread structures later which produces very quick crashes. |
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| 00:40:05 | BigBambi | Most plugins come with - the only ones that need extra installation are doom wads, and various roms for emulators |
| 00:40:08 | amiconn | Nico_P: red! |
| 00:40:09 | kugel | Nico_P: Well done :) |
| 00:40:15 | kugel | doh |
| 00:40:27 | Nate101 | it says it cant find my ipod |
| 00:40:34 | Nico_P | I'm so stupid |
| 00:41:00 | markun | Nico_P: do you want to use it in the jpeg viewer? |
| 00:41:01 | BigBambi | Nate101: Have you connected it in disk mode via itunes? |
| 00:41:09 | Nico_P | markun: would be nice |
| 00:41:10 | petur | jhMikeS: one of the crashes was an AddrErr in struct core_entry cores[NUM_CORES] |
| 00:41:26 | * | jhMikeS has image scaling filters which are tiny |
| 00:41:32 | Nate101 | ahhh nope |
| 00:42:14 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: I know and hope we can do better, but I've been meaning to commit this for a long time and didn't want to let it rot in the tracker any more |
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| 00:43:39 | jhMikeS | petur: I'm fairly certain that problem would have to come later from a trashing of the bss section. |
| 00:44:16 | pixelma | Nico_P: hmm... since when do blank lines above the %wd tag count in the WPS? |
| 00:44:38 | Nico_P | pixelma: haven't they always counted? |
| 00:44:40 | kugel | Nico_P: Why didn't you convert pf also to smooth reisze in that run? |
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| 00:44:50 | * | kugel has 1 patch less in his build, nice |
| 00:44:59 | Nate101 | alright i think i connected it in disk mode but honestly i have no lue |
| 00:45:01 | pixelma | Nico_P: I'm not sure but I think not... |
| 00:45:02 | Nico_P | kugel: because I'm not sure it's fast enough but I'll sure test |
| 00:45:02 | * | jhMikeS looks for the little gaussian and other filter code |
| 00:45:09 | crzyboyster | What exactly was r17001 > http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=17001 ? Is it an album art resize patch? |
| 00:45:16 | BigBambi | not yet |
| 00:45:17 | tomcat_ha | Nate101: i have a similair problem..... but i already seemingly tried everything and am now looking at getting apple support. |
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| 00:45:27 | kugel | Nico_P: Let me get on my linux box, I'll test |
| 00:45:27 | Nate101 | yayy i got it working |
| 00:45:32 | BigBambi | tomcat_ha: No, you have a different problem |
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| 00:45:39 | Nate101 | ya i have no idea how i did it but now i see rockbox on my ipod |
| 00:45:53 | crzyboyster | So does anyone know? |
| 00:46:07 | BigBambi | crzyboyster: I already answered you |
| 00:46:19 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/2_pass_scale.zip |
| 00:46:23 | crzyboyster | Thanks |
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| 00:47:14 | Nate101 | is it supposed to be like stuck at the do not disconnect screen? |
| 00:47:47 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Urgh, C++ and floats... |
| 00:48:03 | pixelma | Nico_P: probably not important, was just surprised a bit |
| 00:48:06 | BigBambi | Nate101: Have you safely removed it? |
| 00:48:15 | Nate101 | uhh nope |
| 00:48:22 | BigBambi | .... |
| 00:48:33 | petur | hmmm does the h1x0 have a setting to disable the optical link? |
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| 00:48:45 | BigBambi | petur: In rockbox, yes |
| 00:48:58 | BigBambi | If you mean optical output on/off :) |
| 00:49:02 | pixelma | Nico_P: (because I *believed* it was different, but oh well) |
| 00:49:17 | petur | BigBambi: yes |
| 00:49:26 | BigBambi | then yes :) |
| 00:49:44 | Nico_P | pixelma: I don't remember any requirement for the %wd tag to be on top on the WPS |
| 00:49:46 | Nate101 | ok now im stuck at a screen the says ok to disconnect |
| 00:49:57 | BigBambi | And have you disconnected it? |
| 00:50:10 | Nate101 | yes |
| 00:50:19 | BigBambi | And removed the cable? |
| 00:50:33 | Nate101 | yep |
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| 00:50:45 | BigBambi | Menu + select will reset it |
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| 00:52:01 | Nate101 | ok now i get a menu says |
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| 00:52:30 | tomcat_ha | hmmm |
| 00:52:37 | Nate101 | rockbox boot loder version 2.0....etc....cant load rockbox.ipod file not found hold menu + select to reboot then select+play for disk mode |
| 00:52:39 | tomcat_ha | i seeimly lost my recipt and all |
| 00:52:49 | jhMikeS | amiconn: well, it needs converting of course |
| 00:52:58 | BigBambi | Nate101: So you haven't extracted a build properly to your iPod |
| 00:53:07 | tomcat_ha | i wonder how i can convince i am still covered under warrenty with my online backing thing :X |
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| 00:53:11 | Nate101 | :S |
| 00:53:23 | amiconn | jhMikeS: We'd also need an algorithm that can resize on-the-fly, with only little more than 1 line worth of pixels buffered |
| 00:53:24 | Nate101 | should i reconnect to the computer? |
| 00:53:29 | BigBambi | yes... |
| 00:53:33 | Nico_P | crap I'm being sloppy |
| 00:53:44 | Nate101 | alright |
| 00:53:46 | amiconn | I mean on-the-fly when loading a .bmp |
| 00:53:47 | kugel | Nico_P: Is there an easy way to have both pf versions on the target? like renaming the .rock? |
| 00:53:57 | markun | Nate101: just unzip the rockbox build directly to you player. It has a .rockbox/ folder with the rockbox.ipod file inside |
| 00:54:03 | Nico_P | kugel: renaming the rock will work |
| 00:54:04 | jhMikeS | amiconn: then vertical interpolation is severely limited when minimizing |
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| 00:54:13 | BigBambi | Nate101: Read the installing the build part of the manual again |
| 00:54:18 | petur | BigBambi: care to tell me where the setting for the optical on/off is? |
| 00:54:29 | BigBambi | petur: One mo, I'll fetch the H100 |
| 00:54:34 | saratoga | Nico_P: why does that bilinear resize code need seperate cases for horizontal, vertical and horizontal + vertical scaling? |
| 00:55:05 | Nico_P | saratoga: it's optimisation, but as I said in the commit message they can be removed if/when size matters |
| 00:55:31 | BigBambi | petur: Settings -> General Settings --> Playback --> Optical Output |
| 00:55:34 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Well, the scaling factor is known in advance, and I do think it should be possible with the help of the destination buffer and the single-line normalized input buffer |
| 00:55:35 | saratoga | ah thats good then |
| 00:55:45 | petur | BigBambi: thnx |
| 00:55:48 | saratoga | if we removed those other cases, the scaling code would be quite small |
| 00:56:07 | Nate101 | i dont see anything i skipped |
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| 00:56:24 | BigBambi | Nate101: So you extracted rockbox.zip to the iPod? |
| 00:56:41 | tomcat_ha | is the concepttronic grab'n go a worthwhile mp3 player? |
| 00:56:48 | Nate101 | if u mean run the installer thing, find the right place, and click complete installation then yes |
| 00:57:27 | petur | BigBambi: So I wasn't dreaming (this setting is missing in the manual) |
| 00:57:30 | BigBambi | Nate101: Rerun the installer, go to the second tab and select install build |
| 00:57:42 | BigBambi | petur: Ah, I haven't checked the manual :) |
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| 00:58:29 | pixelma | petur: you'll probably find other settins missing in the manual too (though I'm a bit surprised that such an old thing is missing too) :\ |
| 00:58:38 | * | jhMikeS would still prefer to use C++ for things like mpegplayer where abstraction and containment pays off bigtime |
| 00:58:40 | pixelma | settings too |
| 00:58:55 | saratoga | is anyone here familar with variable length coding? |
| 00:58:58 | Nate101 | it doesnt say install build it says install bootloader |
| 00:59:08 | BigBambi | And what is the second button? |
| 00:59:10 | saratoga | i've found yet another bug in that part of the wma decoder, and it'd be helpful to understand how it works |
| 00:59:23 | saratoga | or rather huffman coding i guess |
| 00:59:27 | Nate101 | ahahaha thats sneaky |
| 00:59:49 | BigBambi | Nate101: Complete install should work, but there was a bug in one of the releases of it |
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| 01:00:03 | jhMikeS | isn't huffmann variable-length coding by definition (using prefix codes)? :) |
| 01:00:54 | saratoga | yes they're the same thing |
| 01:01:08 | * | Nico_P test builds this time |
| 01:01:13 | saratoga | well more or less, i think its a DFT vs. FFT thing |
| 01:01:40 | Nate101 | i still get the ok to disconnect thing |
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| 01:02:14 | saratoga | basically i'm wondering what changing the depth of the binary tree actually does |
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| 01:02:40 | jhMikeS | limits the maximum code length |
| 01:03:31 | jhMikeS | or changes it since the maximum code length should be equal to the maximum tree depth |
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| 01:04:11 | jhMikeS | depth, path length from root to leaf or whatever :p |
| 01:04:22 | Nate101 | ya i downloaded and installed and everything but i keep getting the same errors |
| 01:04:23 | tomcat_ha | So i heared that there are more mp3 players then ipod classic that have 160 gb of memory |
| 01:04:31 | tomcat_ha | any idea where i can find them? |
| 01:04:45 | BigBambi | tomcat_ha: Google? This channel is for Rockbox only |
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| 01:05:16 | saratoga | jhMikeS: oddly enough, the ffmpeg recommends changing that to conserve memory at the cost of CPU time |
| 01:05:22 | saratoga | which confuses me |
| 01:05:45 | saratoga | i would expect that the depth would be determined by the file being decoded |
| 01:05:53 | amiconn | Nico_P: Resume after playlist end is still possible (only once though - next try will splash "Nothing to resume") |
| 01:06:05 | amiconn | I got the last 3 seconds of the last song |
| 01:06:11 | Nico_P | :/ |
| 01:07:31 | * | amiconn tries something |
| 01:07:59 | jhMikeS | saratoga: so somehow they allow an increase in path length to conserve memory which I guess makes it approach O(n) instead of O(log(n) or something. I'm just guessing since I'm not actually looking at the code itself. |
| 01:08:27 | Nate101 | can anybody help me |
| 01:08:43 | BigBambi | Only if you ask a question |
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| 01:09:03 | Nate101 | i still can't get that screen off, and ive tried installing both ways like you said |
| 01:09:19 | BigBambi | Which screen off? |
| 01:09:40 | Nate101 | the ok to disconnect screen |
| 01:09:41 | Nate101 | even though it is disconnected |
| 01:09:54 | BigBambi | So reset it again like last time with menu + select |
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| 01:10:16 | Nate101 | i did |
| 01:10:21 | BigBambi | and? |
| 01:10:32 | jhMikeS | It's an array bintree? |
| 01:10:36 | Nate101 | i get that error message say ing it cant load rockbox.ipod |
| 01:10:47 | BigBambi | So it still isn't there properly |
| 01:10:57 | BigBambi | Can you try to extract it manually? |
| 01:11:09 | Nate101 | hmm i can try |
| 01:11:28 | BigBambi | Connect to the computer, download the correct build from build.rockbox.org, then extract it directly to your ipod |
| 01:12:04 | kugel | Nico_P: I can't say that it's slower on my e200, but I also can't say that it looks better |
| 01:12:27 | Nate101 | how do i extract it directly to my ipod |
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| 01:12:41 | BigBambi | Nate101: Do you know how to extract a zip? |
| 01:12:46 | Nate101 | yes |
| 01:12:58 | BigBambi | Then do that to your ipod |
| 01:13:11 | BigBambi | If it is H: then unzip rockboz.zip to H:\ |
| 01:13:19 | Nate101 | ok |
| 01:13:30 | * | jhMikeS must point out that pegbox fails to build on gigabeat S |
| 01:14:05 | amiconn | Pegbox has weird controls on many targets |
| 01:14:11 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 01:16:32 | jhMikeS | no keymap is defined but it doesn't say "Unsupported Keymap" but instead complains about each button. |
| 01:17:08 | | Quit moos ("Rockbox rules the DAP world") |
| 01:17:55 | * | jhMikeS should just toss a keymap into it |
| 01:18:29 | kugel | Nico_P: What gets acutally resized in pf? The cached bmp only, or the zoom too? |
| 01:19:05 | kugel | resized with simple_resize I mean |
| 01:19:35 | BigBambi | pixelma: Thank you for the cabbie v2 changes on grayscale btw. I can actually read text over the logo on the background now :) |
| 01:20:04 | Nico_P | kugel: IIRC it's the bitmap after it's loaded |
| 01:20:11 | kugel | Ahh Nico_P, I see, pictureflow uses another resize for the zoom |
| 01:20:17 | pixelma | BigBambi: thanks - and me too :) |
| 01:20:21 | kugel | That's why I can't spot a difference |
| 01:20:21 | Nico_P | I think it's written to a cache file after being resized |
| 01:20:23 | Nico_P | yes |
| 01:20:49 | Nico_P | the improvement will be visible if you use 100% zoom |
| 01:21:04 | kugel | Should it be possible to use simple/smooth for the zoom as well? |
| 01:21:11 | kugel | Nico_P: Hardly, with 100x100 album arts ;) |
| 01:21:31 | Nico_P | no, the zoom is comptletely different code |
| 01:22:15 | kugel | I see, but it could be changed, can't it? |
| 01:22:31 | | Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection) |
| 01:23:26 | kugel | Hmm, make a test 150x150 album art, let's see |
| 01:23:50 | amiconn | Nico_P: Quickest way to reproduce the resume bug: Start playing the second last track of a directory. Stop somewhere within that track. Resume, and let it play up to the end of the dir. |
| 01:23:54 | Nico_P | kugel: it won't be easy to change |
| 01:24:19 | Nico_P | amiconn: that's not exactly what I call quick :/ |
| 01:24:29 | amiconn | It's important to start on the second last (or earlier) track, and to stop somewhere within the track. Last track won't cause it, as well as starting at a track boundary |
| 01:24:40 | Nico_P | ah, "second last". I read "second" |
| 01:25:17 | Nico_P | I'll try |
| 01:25:22 | amiconn | It *may* be important to use something vbr - not sure. Most of my music is vbr |
| 01:25:32 | saratoga | Maurus Cuelenaere |
| 01:25:36 | saratoga | Maurus Cuelenaere |
| 01:25:41 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK saratoga |
| 01:25:41 | saratoga | Maurus Cuelenaere |
| 01:25:48 | amiconn | saratoga: ? |
| 01:25:49 | Nico_P | saratoga: yes? |
| 01:25:51 | DerPapst | ? |
| 01:25:54 | saratoga | broekn paste |
| 01:26:00 | saratoga | in the webclient |
| 01:26:15 | saratoga | i was trying to paste his name into the client and it pasted it into the chat instead |
| 01:26:22 | kugel | Nico_P: I guess if only the cached bmp's are resized, there won't be any performance impact, except maybe a slightly higher cache build time |
| 01:26:33 | saratoga | regardless, has there been any thought to giving that guy whos name i cannot copy and paste svn access |
| 01:26:49 | saratoga | his CVM patch is already > 200kb |
| 01:27:08 | saratoga | maybe parts of it should start going into the svn before they become unmanageable |
| 01:27:59 | saratoga | plus i think parts of it would be useful for the M:Robe port |
| 01:28:21 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 01:28:21 | * | Nico_P is in favor |
| 01:29:15 | pixelma | saratoga: which M:Robe port? ;) |
| 01:29:55 | Nate101 | is there anyway i can manually install the bootloader? |
| 01:30:09 | BigBambi | yes, the manual tells you how |
| 01:30:11 | Llorean | saratoga: Aren't there some things he really needs to clean up in his patch (last time i heard, at least) or has that been addressed? |
| 01:30:45 | BigBambi | Nate101: But if it is complaining that it can't find rockbox.ipod then the bootloader is there |
| 01:30:53 | Nate101 | no its not anymore |
| 01:31:02 | Nate101 | im trying to reinstall the bootloader |
| 01:31:07 | kugel | Nico_P: My 150x150 AA doesn't get resized in both cases.. |
| 01:31:09 | Nate101 | cuz i accidentally clicked uninstall bootloader |
| 01:31:12 | saratoga | Llorean: i think they've mostly been addressed |
| 01:31:16 | Nate101 | but when i do it says can't open ipod |
| 01:31:26 | saratoga | and anyway, if hes just adding stuff to his part of the target tree ... |
| 01:31:47 | Llorean | saratoga: It still needs to meet the coding guidelines... |
| 01:32:00 | * | Llorean doesn't know what was wrong with it before. |
| 01:32:11 | Llorean | I just remember that there was some sort of list of things that he needed to fix about it. |
| 01:33:14 | | Part DavidSG |
| 01:33:24 | * | Nico_P sees some tabs and some very long lines |
| 01:34:15 | Nico_P | but I still thinks he would be better off in SVN |
| 01:34:52 | Nico_P | amiconn: I got the 3 sec resume |
| 01:35:00 | | Quit mrfree (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 01:35:11 | Llorean |
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