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#rockbox log for 2008-04-15

00:00:48r0rshachanyone have experience with the ZIF to ATA adapters?
00:00:58LambdaCalculus37BigBambi: From ~/rockbox/build folder, what's the command to compile sendfirm?
00:01:47BigBambiLambdaCalculus37: It is in rockbox/utils/MTP
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00:02:43BigBambijust type make in there (you need to have thinhs like devel packages for libusb installed IIRC)
00:03:17LambdaCalculus37No wonder it just borked on me.
00:03:27*LambdaCalculus37 goes to get the libusb dev packages
00:04:41LambdaCalculus37Oops! Forgot libmtp-dev as well... should add that just in case.
00:05:30LambdaCalculus37BigBambi: So gnomad2 can see the Gigabeat as well?
00:05:41BigBambiyep
00:05:41LambdaCalculus37I always thought that was meant for Creative devices.
00:05:49BigBambiOriginally
00:05:54*markun waves good night
00:05:57BigBambinight
00:06:01LambdaCalculus37markun: Good night!
00:06:11moosbonne nuit
00:06:23LambdaCalculus37Bonne nuit to all...
00:06:54markunmoos: a toi aussi :)
00:06:56*LambdaCalculus37 decides to apt-get install gnomad2
00:07:07 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
00:07:42moosmarkun: merci :)
00:08:46LambdaCalculus37BigBambi: sendfirm is ready. Now for the bootloader. :)
00:09:00LambdaCalculus37I need mknkboot as well, right?
00:09:04BigBambiyeah
00:09:26BigBambiYou build the bootloader, patch nk.bin with it with mknkboot, then send the resulting file with sendfirm
00:10:01BigBambimknkboot.c is in rockbox/tools
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00:10:16BigBambiAnd maybe mknkboot
00:10:35BigBambiI think that gets built for you
00:10:44 Quit petur ("*plop*")
00:10:55LambdaCalculus37I see mknkboot already built in rockbox/tools.
00:11:05LambdaCalculus37Now I need the required nk.bin
00:11:39BigBambiIt is in an archive linked from the wiki I think
00:12:43BigBambiLambdaCalculus37: I can send it if you like
00:12:52LambdaCalculus37BigBambi: Sure.
00:12:58BigBambiOK, one mo
00:14:14LambdaCalculus37Ah great, error on bootloader compile: http://pastebin.com/m13925cc
00:14:28BigBambiAh, I didn't realise you were using the web client
00:14:55BigBambiLambdaCalculus37: PM
00:15:27moosjhMikeS was asking about people that tried to build current svn bootloader, good spot then?
00:16:15LambdaCalculus37Guess so.
00:16:28*LambdaCalculus37 pokes jhMikeS
00:16:59BigBambiYeah, I built it a little while ago, but I don't think much has changed since then
00:17:07LambdaCalculus37Actually, let me set my Gigabeat S in recovery mode instead.
00:17:24BigBambiLambdaCalculus37: I'd do it in the OF
00:17:32BigBambiIt won't wipe everything that way
00:17:40BigBambiMuch cleaner
00:17:53LambdaCalculus37BigBambi: There's nothing on here yet.
00:17:59LambdaCalculus37It's totally empty.
00:18:08moosbecause his last ADC works regarding the warnings?
00:18:14LambdaCalculus37But if you say so... :)
00:18:23BigBambiWell, just might as well
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00:20:26LambdaCalculus37It's in recovery mode now.
00:21:33BigBambiLambdaCalculus37: Did you see the PM?
00:21:53LambdaCalculus37BigBambi: Yes, getting it now.
00:22:44BigBambiI should have zipped it really
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00:22:49BigBambioops
00:23:05LambdaCalculus37Got it.
00:23:57LambdaCalculus37Sending...
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00:25:57LambdaCalculus37So now I figure click the battery off, click hold switch, turn battery on, right?
00:26:55BigBambiHave you already copied over the rockbox.tar?
00:27:50LambdaCalculus37Ah, right... doing now.
00:29:08*LambdaCalculus37 smacks gnomad2
00:29:39BigBambiYou probably need to disconnect then connect again
00:30:48LambdaCalculus37Ah crap!
00:30:58*LambdaCalculus37 forgot to enable USB in his build
00:31:05*LambdaCalculus37 goes back to recompile
00:31:40BigBambiWhat USB?
00:31:56BigBambiIt doesn't work on the beast yet...
00:32:14moosjhMikeS is working on it...
00:32:22*LambdaCalculus37 smacks forehead
00:32:26BigBambiI know, but LambdaCalculus37 can't enable it now
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00:33:59RoC_MasterMindDo people ask about Rockbox on the Zune a lot?
00:34:06BigBambiPeriodically
00:34:11moosBigBambi: yup just for inform him...
00:34:32BigBambimoos: :)
00:34:42LambdaCalculus37What the hell?
00:35:08BigBambiquoi?
00:35:28LambdaCalculus37Never mind... gnomad2 briefly couldn't find any devices on the bus.
00:35:30LambdaCalculus37I got it now.
00:35:37BigBambiIt does that a lot
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00:35:47*BigBambi points at MTP support in linux
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00:36:12*LambdaCalculus37 managed to copy a rockbox.tar to the root of the beast
00:36:29r0rshachwhat player ya got calc?
00:36:34BigBambicool, so turn the battery switch off then on, then turn on hold as it starts to boot
00:37:39LambdaCalculus37r0rshach: Do you reeeeeeealy want to know?
00:37:54 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("This computer has gone to sleep")
00:38:47LambdaCalculus37BigBambi: Rockbox is successfully running on my Gigabeast!
00:38:56BigBambiCool
00:39:06BigBambiNice sight isn't it :)
00:39:13mooshehe :)
00:40:57*LambdaCalculus37 goes for internal fuel sources... dinner
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00:44:10Hillshumwell so which flash target is better?
00:45:32BigBambiHillshum: The one that bears the closest resemblance to the longest piece of string
00:46:00BigBambiHillshum: It really depends on what you want, although I would take a Sansa over a Nano
00:47:11LloreanI'd give the Nano a slightly higher ranking personally
00:47:20LloreanDoesn't have the noise problem the Sansa has.
00:47:28Hillshumi have a v2, i watch the port thread every day. i might sell it and get a v1 no nano for me i like the radio
00:47:38BigBambiLlorean: True, but whether that bothers you depends on earphones
00:47:54BigBambiAnd the sansa is storage expandable, has a radio and limited recording
00:48:06LloreanBigBambi: Quite true. It more or less is a clear case of "what you need it for"
00:48:11 Quit ender` (" In politics, absurdity is not a handicap. -- Napoleon Bonaparte")
00:48:12BigBambiIndeed so
00:48:52scorche|sheven without the noise, the sansa's SQ is dreadful (imo of course)
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00:49:21BigBambiI do have to admit to not having tried a nano for more than fifteen minutes at this point
00:50:03BigBambiAnd I don't use my Sansa that much, so take what I say about SQ with a pinch of salt
00:50:19HillshumSQ?
00:50:31BigBambiSound Quality
00:51:29Hillshumi like the fact that card slot+replaceable battery+rockbox= long lasting expandable player
00:52:01pixelmasound wise I prefer the OndioFM (which also has a radio, expandable memory and better recording possibilities) ;) of course it doesn't play as many formats
00:52:08Hillshumplus i want tactile controls for blind usage of sansa
00:53:53Hillshumpixelma: i did ask about RB targets, the OF has to be good for me buy one without RB
00:54:11BigBambiHillshum: The Ondio FM is a rockbox target...
00:54:15BigBambiOne of the oldest
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00:54:28pixelmathe OndioFM is a Rockbox target (and was well before the Sansas...)
00:54:30Hillshumoh... but is it flash based?
00:54:31moospixelma: my ears are agred with you :)
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00:54:54BigBambiBut it uses a hardware decoder, so can play MP3 and WAV only
00:55:03BigBambiHillshum: Yes, it is flash
00:55:03boxerorangeHello everybody!
00:55:39Hillshumi want WMA plus maybe AAC and vorbis
00:56:17BigBambiThen it is a v1 e200 or c200 or a v1 nano
00:56:21pixelmaHillshum: yes, and what BigBambi said and it only has a small monochrome display. My point was only that there are other flash based Rockbox targets besides the Nano and the Sansas :P
00:56:54pixelmait's not an option if you want to play these formats of course
00:57:49amiconnBigBambi: You forgot MP2. Not very widespread in general, but people who directly record dap may find it useful
00:58:03pixelmas/dap/dab
00:58:05BigBambiamiconn: Ah yes, thanks
00:58:14boxerorangeSo I'm looking into coding for Rockbox and other similar things, could somebody point me in the direction of what languages to learn, other than C?
00:58:28amiconnAnd unlike all swcodec rockboxes, the archoses don't need to resample that(dab uses 48kHz sample rate)
00:58:36BigBambiboxerorange: For rockbox, it is C and some ASM
00:58:56BigBambiamiconn: So the hwcodec outputs at native sample rate?
00:59:10Hillshumno monocrome for me (my Dad would have gotten me one for Christmas if he'd known they were still around. he didn't want me looking a pics and vids cause at his lawer job he sees to much porn and what not. but the only thing it that regards is the shuffle and that is for losers
00:59:12Hillshum )
00:59:35moosboxeorange: rockbox use plain C and some asm for few CPUs
00:59:46moosoops echo :)
01:00
01:00:09boxerorangethanks a million! Because I'm looking into iPods specifically, are they just C?
01:00:21BigBambiRockbox is written for all platforms
01:00:22DerPapstno target uses plainly c
01:00:31amiconnBigBambi: Yes. All standard rates are supported for mp2/mp3 and wav, and for the latter we could even support arbitrary sample rates with a (not very difficult) trick
01:00:36BigBambiWith device specific code for drivers etc., obviously
01:00:50BigBambiamiconn: Cool, I didn't realise that, thanks :)
01:01:06amiconn(standard rates 8, 11.025, 12, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1 and 48kHz)
01:01:41*amiconn even used his archos recorder once to produce a 96kHz s/pdif signal for testing H1x0 s/pdif recording
01:01:45BigBambiboxerorange: All targets use C + some asm, but to clarify what I said, other than hardware specific code rockbox is not target specific
01:02:14boxerorangeok, thanks!
01:02:17*BigBambi realises that may not have in fact clarified anything, and gives up
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01:02:35BigBambiboxerorange: No probs :)
01:02:38pixelmaHillshum: monochrome display doesn't mean you can't watch jpgs or video too with Rockbox (it isn't as "nice" as in colur maybe but it works)
01:02:59amiconnPlaying an 48kHz mp3 file with the mas overclocked to 200% speed (just the pitch screen set to 200%)
01:03:11BigBambihaha :)
01:04:04Hillshumstill...
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01:07:03stripwaxregarding ipod accessories (and on 5g/5.5g) - does rockbox detect the accessory connected via pin 10, before enabling any power to the accessory? Also, reading http://www.ipodlinux.org/Dock_Connector suggests that pin17 is unused, but I may be on crack
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01:22:19stripwaxpin10 / pin21 depending how you number the dock port pins. seems there's two references out there for ipod docks..
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01:37:37misterPhai guys
01:39:07misterPanyone around able to help? my ipod nano has rockbox on with dual boot (the thing where you turn on 'lock' during start to boot up to standard software). traditionally i've not been able to add songs to the pod without booting to the standard software, is this common?
01:39:35BigBambiYes, rockbox on the nano does not yet have a USB mode
01:39:38misterPsecond of all, booting to standard no longer allows me to load shizzle (it just says "no formatting" blah blah), and i'm pretty boned
01:39:50BigBambiI have no idea what shizzle is
01:39:55misterPanything
01:40:01misterPbecause it thinks the drive is RAW
01:40:19BigBambimisterP: Could you retype that sentence in English?
01:40:20misterPas in, cant copy anything onto it
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01:40:48misterPas in, it doesn't recognise the nano is formatted and contains files any more
01:40:52BigBambiSo when in USM mode in the original firmware, you cannot copy anything to the drive?
01:40:57misterPyes
01:40:58BigBambi*USB
01:41:05BigBambiWhat OS do you use>
01:41:06BigBambi?
01:41:08misterPxp
01:41:18BigBambiDoes it get assigned a drive letter>
01:41:24misterPyep
01:41:33misterP"would you like to format" when double clicking
01:41:35BigBambiCould you try running chkdsk on it?
01:42:06misterPrunning
01:43:00misterPfile system is RAW
01:43:04misterPcannot check RAW
01:43:15BigBambiOK
01:43:30BigBambiI hope you have a backup for what is on there :)
01:43:37misterPpff just songs
01:43:40misterPreformat?
01:43:48misterPthing is it still plays the songs fine
01:43:54BigBambiReally>
01:43:56misterPso it's bullshit claiming the fat is dead
01:43:57BigBambiThat is odd
01:44:34BigBambiSo it sounds like it is the USB that is the issue
01:44:45BigBambiCould you try a different cable or PC?
01:44:55misterPi could, one mo
01:45:37*DerPapst successfully broke 1dtetris and don't know why...
01:45:51DerPapstmaybe i should get some sleep and try again tomorrow :-P
01:46:27misterP1dtetris? is that intentionally stupid?
01:46:32misterPcomputer says no btw
01:46:37misterPnew cable new computer
01:46:40misterPstill xp
01:46:41BigBambihmmm
01:46:43misterPstill RAW
01:47:17misterPgaynano is gay
01:47:24BigBambiDon't do that please
01:47:39misterP..
01:48:14boxerorange"Nano doesn't have USB mode" means you can't connect it via USB with Rockbox?
01:48:26BigBambiboxerorange: Currently, yes
01:48:31BigBambimisterP: I guess you could try reformatting it or restoring it in itunes, but it is very curious that Rockbox and the OF can still read the drive
01:48:48BigBambiboxerorange: Although that is being worked on, and you can dual boot
01:49:23misterPdoes the OF/rockbox and the USB operate on the same fat?
01:49:58DerPapstsure
01:50:11BigBambiThe main OF and the Rockbox bootloader exist in a separate firmware partition
01:50:30misterPonly reason i could think that one is fine and other isnt
01:50:35DerPapsthowever they read/use the same fat partition
01:50:36BigBambiThe main Rockbox lives on the main data partition, along with the music
01:51:02BigBambimisterP: I guess it is possible that the OF has become corrupted
01:51:09BigBambiHave you tried emergency disk mode?
01:51:13misterPno
01:51:20BigBambiThat lives in flash and is a separate USB mode
01:51:27misterPhowto?
01:51:47BigBambimisterP: I believe you reset with menu + select then immediately hold menu+play for disk mode
01:51:57BigBambiBut the keys should be in the manual
01:52:16DerPapstcorrect
01:52:22DerPapstthe keys i mean
01:52:30misterP*does*
01:52:30DerPapsterr.. no...
01:52:37misterPdidnt work first time
01:52:40misterP*does again*
01:52:55DerPapstmenu + select for reset and select + play for diskmode
01:52:59boxerorange...good thing my friend ended up /not/ putting it on his nano
01:53:02BigBambiDerPapst: OK, cheers
01:53:09BigBambiboxerorange: Why?
01:53:19*BigBambi doesn't actually own an iPod
01:53:38boxerorangeNo USB mode. He doesn't have FireWire and would be annoyed having to switch
01:53:57BigBambiboxerorange: Rockbox will automatically reboot to disk mode on cable insert
01:54:05BigBambiAnd it dual boots anyway
01:54:06DerPapstwhat has firewire to do with that?
01:54:08misterPdo you mean reset first, then hold sel+play on bootup?
01:54:13BigBambimisterP: yes
01:54:13misterPbecause no joy with that
01:54:14DerPapstys.
01:54:15boxerorangeoh, I see. cool.
01:54:24BigBambimisterP: The timing can be fiddly
01:54:34misterPgot it :D
01:54:37BigBambicool
01:55:19misterP"disk is not formatted"
01:55:21misterP:( boo
01:55:29BigBambiBizarre
01:55:46misterPwhat's best first, itunes recover or format?
01:55:52misterPi dont care about my songs
01:55:58BigBambiDon't know to be honest
01:56:16misterPkk i'll do itunes thang first
01:56:16boxerorangeif you'd like to sync/use iTunes I'd do recover, otherwise just format
01:56:26BigBambi?
01:56:43misterPmeh itunes not even installed
01:56:51BigBambimisterP: If itunes restore doesn't work I doubt formatting will
01:56:59misterPcba i'll just format
01:57:17BigBambiYou might want to ask on an Apple forum too, as this isn't actually a Rockbox issue
01:57:18misterPdo i risk bricking it by formatting first?
01:57:27DerPapstno
01:57:35misterP*formats*
01:57:36DerPapstuPods are almost unbrickable
01:57:40DerPapstiPods even
01:58:10DerPapstif you see a white progress bar below a silver apple do not reset the iPod though
01:58:15DerPapstthat will brick it ;-)
01:58:24misterPyou said that as i clicked format
01:58:47BigBambimisterP: You will only see that if itunes is reflashing it
01:58:55misterPoh
01:59:36misterPthe OF will still be on there after format right? so now i just need to reinstall rockbox
01:59:44DerPapstyes
01:59:46BigBambiyeah
01:59:53BigBambiIf USB works again
01:59:55misterPokie should be all good now, it recognises the new format
02:00
02:00:02misterPcheers for your help guys
02:00:04BigBambicool
02:00:07BigBambino worries
02:00:09boxerorangeOF?
02:00:21BigBambioriginal firmware
02:00:31boxerorangeI was close...thought it was official
02:00:39BigBambicould be I suppose
02:01:25misterPas a thanks, treat yourself to some cool music - http://www.deezer.com/track/28367
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02:07:15moosGood night guys
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02:07:26*BigBambi should go to bed too
02:07:31BigBambinight all
02:07:45DerPapstnight BigBambi
02:07:47DerPapst:-)
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02:07:55boxerorangenight
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02:08:12DerPapstNight all :-)
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02:10:17webguest80hi, is there a specialist about e200tool and pre-boot mode ? we finish with a "*DANGER*, player might not be bootable now! Please retry!"
02:10:44webguest80actions and logs are here : http://dormrf.free.fr/toutsansa/viewtopic.php?id=236&p=10
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02:11:54webguest80Three month that we try to save his sansa :/
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02:16:53misterPhey again
02:16:55misterPstill here?
02:17:04boxerorangeI'm here.
02:17:45misterPdunno if you're interested, but it seems to be able to access the USB on rockbox now..
02:18:16misterPjust that bigbambi was saying it couldnt
02:18:31BigBambiIt can't
02:18:36misterPright
02:18:42BigBambiIt automatically reboots to emergency disk mode
02:18:46misterPah
02:18:49BigBambiWhich is apple code
02:18:49boxerorangeit sounded like he was saying that it couldn't natively, but would detect being pugged in...
02:18:51misterPdidnt do that before
02:18:55boxerorangeand you beat me to it
02:19:08BigBambimisterP: It was broken for a bit, so if you have just updated...
02:19:19misterPawesome, saves me having to reboot every time
02:19:54*BigBambi really goes to bed now
02:19:55misterPanyway, that's all i wanted to say, later
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02:23:05webguest72Hi Guys....just a quick question if possible.....I was wondering if I need to worry about the battery on my gigabeat....Ive had it for over three years now with no sign of battery decay.....always says I have 13hrs47min when fully charged....is this normal....does the battery life indicator on rockbox change when the battery is degrading???? please help....thanks chris
02:23:28RoC_MasterMindhey hey! I threw my ipod 4g at the ground a couple times while it click of death resetting and was at that "sad folder", and now it's working and I was able to restore the apple firmware and now rockbox and I have no read errors so far!
02:25:44misterPi'm pretty sure their "remaining time" number is generated from generic figures for usage of your ipod and corresponding battery life
02:26:19misterPtherefore it won't take into account the lower effectiveness of older batteries
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02:26:49webguest72ohhhh....thanks....i thought it was too good to be true
02:27:21misterPwait a sec though
02:27:25misterPjust researching on their forums
02:27:31webguest72can I take my own measure of the time and set that as the time left indicator
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02:29:42misterPstill looking!
02:29:46misterPi havent left you
02:34:36misterPmeh
02:34:39misterPnot much use to be found
02:35:31misterPok it calculates battery remaining based on voltage i'm thinking
02:35:42misterPso yeah time remaining is standard
02:36:36misterPstill doesnt help :P
02:37:42webguest72ahhh.....thanks......can I change the voltage setting so it will think the time remaining is less....thinking I could time a full discharge and set that as the time remaining....any ideas
02:37:59misterPok
02:38:06misterPif you go to settings
02:38:20misterPthen general settings
02:38:21webguest72yup
02:38:26misterPthen system
02:38:34misterPthen battery
02:38:35webguest72yep
02:38:59misterPallows you to change the battery capacity in mAh
02:39:11webguest72cool...thanks
02:39:20webguest72I really appreciate the time
02:39:38webguest72I mean your time....parden the pun
02:40:00misterP;)
02:40:16webguest72thanks again
02:40:42misterPdo you know how to find mAh?
02:40:45misterPcos i'm just finding it for you..
02:41:37misterPgone?
02:41:46misterPcos there's a plugin you can use to generate a neat curve.
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02:46:35webguest72nahh.....Im here and I dont know how to find my mAh
02:46:53webguest72which plugin????
02:47:29webguest72is that battery bench
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02:48:56LloreanBagder: Present?
02:49:26boxerorangehow can I download very, very old builds of Firmware?
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02:50:05venoxhey there. I'm having crashes on my iPod nano.
02:50:15venox"Data abort at 00008630"
02:50:22boxerorangeFirst Gen?
02:50:31venoxyes.
02:50:49boxerorangeWhat are you trying to do?
02:50:55venoxwhile playing music
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02:51:10boxerorangeis happens randomly? or when you first pick a song?
02:51:17venoxrandomly
02:51:37cool_walking_boxerorange: I don't think you can download very very old builds. You'll have to grab the old source from SVN and build it yourself.
02:51:49venoxit started since I've updated rockbox today
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02:52:05boxerorangeoh fun...
02:52:09venox(I was running rockbox without updating for about a month)
02:52:26boxerorangedid you *just* update it?