| 00:00:38 | toffe82 | so if there is always a way to recover |
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| 00:02:19 | DerPapst | beast, beavt or both? |
| 00:02:39 | toffe82 | I am on the V actually |
| 00:02:47 | toffe82 | but the S must be the same |
| 00:02:49 | gevaerts | bricks are useful to build towers :) |
| 00:03:00 | amiconn | Probably the V and S are about as similar as the F and X |
| 00:03:31 | Orimili | i like the S |
| 00:05:10 | DerPapst | do they have the same screen resolution? i guess they do |
| 00:06:23 | toffe82 | yes |
| 00:06:37 | toffe82 | but the screen is bigger on the V |
| 00:07:37 | * | DerPapst preferes the s then :-) |
| 00:07:39 | toffe82 | but I have to find out if the security hole on the S is working on the V, I need to contact zunepet :) |
| 00:08:21 | DerPapst | however i like landscape targets more. |
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| 00:45:54 | preglow | hrmph |
| 00:46:08 | preglow | is there no way to detect an accessory? i doubt apple handles accessory power this way |
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| 00:56:14 | Llorean | Do we have a policy on wiki pages like this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LogoSwapper |
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| 00:56:36 | Llorean | It's simply a third party tool someone random has created to directly modify a Rockbox binary. As well, it has no included license or anything, to boot. |
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| 01:00:27 | gevaerts | I think that the wiki page is not a problem as such, but the binary with no license is (at least as long as it's actually hosted on the rockbox.org server) |
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| 01:01:21 | * | gevaerts also doesn't see the point. You see that bitmap for all of two seconds |
| 01:03:24 | * | DerPapst replaced it on noe target... |
| 01:03:29 | DerPapst | *one |
| 01:04:12 | gevaerts | Did you put an iPL logo on it ? |
| 01:04:35 | DerPapst | heh no...but maybe i should :-) |
| 01:06:35 | Llorean | gevaerts: Well it's, in a way, similar to the idea of hosting unsupported builds. We don't like people creating wiki page for their BobBuild or whatever. |
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| 01:06:42 | Llorean | But yeah, the big issue is the lack of license. |
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| 01:09:08 | gevaerts | Llorean: good point. |
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| 01:12:02 | Llorean | Basically, its use turns any build into an unsupported build, as well. It's closed source, so we can't check what it's doing, and even if it's open source, it's making a modification of the binary and we can't be assured it's bug free, ever, really. |
| 01:12:27 | w1ll14m | gnight all, we'll see what happens tomorrow ;) |
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| 01:12:48 | * | gevaerts agrees. |
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| 01:13:08 | w1ll14m | i might have done something interesting... |
| 01:13:19 | w1ll14m | but i will let it know if it is finished |
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| 01:13:33 | * | Llorean updates the warning on the page, for now |
| 01:14:57 | * | DerPapst guesses it has something to do with the beast and i2c |
| 01:15:21 | quest23 | /msg nickserv set hide email on |
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| 01:17:14 | DerPapst | /ns gost quest23 bla |
| 01:17:19 | DerPapst | *ghost even |
| 01:17:47 | kkurbjun | If we have to make a new gigabeat bootloader release, would it be better to have the original firmware take care of the extra case when it's loaded with the old FW? It shouldn't be hard to do, but the code is dependent on how large specific portions of code are |
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| 01:18:36 | kkurbjun | so the downside is that in the future people could be running into bugs caused by this code if the begining portions of the code increase much |
| 01:18:50 | kkurbjun | specifically the mmu portions of the code |
| 01:19:00 | Llorean | kkurbjun: "The extra case"? |
| 01:19:26 | kkurbjun | the old bootloader loads rockbox with an offset of 100 bytes |
| 01:19:38 | kkurbjun | to allow for the vector table to be copied back in |
| 01:19:46 | kkurbjun | and it's also linked that way |
| 01:19:56 | kkurbjun | but that causes problems with the flash enabled builds |
| 01:20:20 | kkurbjun | so that 100 byte offset can be detected if rockbox is loaded with an older fw and taken care of |
| 01:20:45 | kkurbjun | but if the code in crt0.s is offset much more it won't work right |
| 01:21:09 | kkurbjun | right now it's not an issue, but I could see it being a problem if someone added more features to the mmu code |
| 01:21:21 | Llorean | Ah |
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| 01:21:51 | kkurbjun | the consequence of loading with an older bootloader is the player shuts down emmediately |
| 01:22:07 | kkurbjun | but we have the bootloader usb mode that people can use to update their bootloader |
| 01:22:24 | kkurbjun | or I can add code in to take care of an older bootloader |
| 01:22:26 | Llorean | We've broken support for older bootloaders in the past. |
| 01:22:33 | Llorean | When it's necessary enough |
| 01:22:43 | Llorean | But I don't know what you mean by "have the original firmware take care of the extra case" |
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| 01:24:14 | kkurbjun | sorry, I worded that completely wrong "would it be better to have the original firmware take care of the extra case when it's loaded with the old FW?" I mean Would it be better to have the main rockbox build take care of the extra case when it's loaded with the old bootloader |
| 01:24:29 | kkurbjun | wow, that sentence didn't communicate what I meant at all :P |
| 01:24:37 | Llorean | That's perhaps why I was confused. :) |
| 01:24:39 | MRW | New here. I have a .frm radio preset file for San Diego CA to upload. |
| 01:26:13 | Llorean | kkurbjun: I'd say it's okay to break support for the old bootloader as long as we try to get the new bootloader out *before* we break the old one (assuming the new bootloader works with old builds). We broke old builds with dual core support, and things went over okay. The important thing is that the new bootloader can be installed when Rockbox itself can't boot, and bootloader USB should allow for this |
| 01:26:56 | Llorean | MRW: .fmr, and are you asking for wiki write access? |
| 01:26:56 | kkurbjun | unfortunately there's not a clean way to release a new bootloader before it's required |
| 01:27:10 | Llorean | kkurbjun: New bootloader won't work with old builds? |
| 01:27:47 | pixelma | MRW: are you asking for wiki write permission? Then we'd have to know your wiki name... :) |
| 01:27:57 | * | pixelma too slow |
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| 01:28:09 | MRW | Llorean: Yep. |
| 01:28:23 | Llorean | MRW: Then as pixelma said, we need to know your wiki name |
| 01:28:30 | MRW | Wiki Name: Marc Whitaker |
| 01:28:33 | kkurbjun | no, the old bootloader added that 100 byte offset, the new one doesn't and I don't see a really good way to detect whether it's an old build or not. I'm trying to unify the bootloader and the main build code along with adding in a way for rolo to work |
| 01:28:47 | kkurbjun | along with flash booting of the bootloader and the main build |
| 01:29:30 | kkurbjun | when I say unify the bootloader and main build code I'm specifically talking about removing the bootloader special cases scattered around |
| 01:29:46 | kkurbjun | in the lcd driver, and in CRT0.s |
| 01:30:22 | Llorean | MRW: You should have write access now |
| 01:30:50 | Llorean | kkurbjun: This is when RButil could've come in handy, if people were using it widely |
| 01:30:52 | MRW | Llorean: Thanks. |
| 01:31:21 | Llorean | kkurbjun: But I guess a note on major changes and the front page would be okay, imho. But I guess others should weigh in. |
| 01:31:42 | * | amiconn wants that link back, btw |
| 01:32:23 | Llorean | amiconn: Who was that directed at? |
| 01:32:39 | amiconn | MajorChanges link... |
| 01:32:51 | Llorean | Ah. |
| 01:32:52 | Llorean | Agreed |
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| 01:34:23 | kkurbjun | yeah, I'll wait and see if anyone else has an opinion - I'm going to work on adding detection and see if I can get some of this mmu code out of .init.text |
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| 01:36:36 | amiconn | Llorean: Do you remember where that link used to be located on the front page? |
| 01:37:05 | Llorean | amiconn: No, I don't. |
| 01:42:16 | * | Nico_P doesn't recall there being a link to majorchanges on the front page |
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| 01:48:51 | DerPapst | there was.. iirc it was located near the recent svn table |
| 01:49:36 | Llorean | Yeah, it was definitely somewhere in that vicinity I think |
| 01:49:42 | Llorean | I remember seeing it there, for sure |
| 01:49:45 | Llorean | On the page, I mean |
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| 02:03:37 | DerPapst | night all :-) |
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| 02:25:33 | almita | hola necesito ayuda tengo un ipod 80gb 5.5g y corre bien el ipodlinux y el rockbox |
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| 02:26:28 | rolama | hola |
| 02:26:31 | rolama | holaaaaaaaa |
| 02:26:37 | rolama | alguien me puede ayudar |
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| 02:30:08 | rolama | I have a 80gb iPod generation 5.5 and installed linuxmanager and rockbox and ilaunch and not working |
| 02:30:57 | cool_walking_ | I have no idea what linuxmanager or ilaunch are, but they're not supported. |
| 02:32:11 | rolama | I support good with rockbox |
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| 02:32:48 | cool_walking_ | Please rephrase that. |
| 02:34:02 | rolama | Ay some pluying to read pdf |
| 02:34:32 | rolama | And that I can not play pacman |
| 02:35:58 | cool_walking_ | Pacman requires you to have ROMs from a Pacman machine. I think you can only legally acquire these if you have your own Pacman machine. |
| 02:37:16 | rolama | And the next in pluyings of rockbox what is not working and try to start |
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| 02:39:35 | rolama | Is someone |
| 02:39:53 | cool_walking_ | I am trying to understand what you said. |
| 02:41:25 | rolama | OK apology |
| 02:42:04 | soap | iLaunch, if I understand correctly, is an iPodLinux application - irrelevant. |
| 02:42:51 | soap | Linuxmanager is another iPodLinux product, and possibly not irrelevant. |
| 02:43:02 | soap | rolama, what you need to do is remove the ipod linux bootloader. |
| 02:43:14 | soap | Get your iPod back to an Apple Firmware only state. |
| 02:43:57 | rolama | But that if noce if install rockbox but now I have and I want to know how good it is |
| 02:44:08 | soap | Then install the Rockbox bootloader. It will also launch iPod linux if you so desire, but we can not help you so long as the ipodlinux bootloader is on your system. It is not Rockbox software, and very well likely does not work well with Rockbox anymore. |
| 02:44:26 | soap | Rockbox is very good at playing music. |
| 02:44:56 | soap | I am sorry if I also misunderstood you and you have Rockbox working properly without problems. |
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| 02:45:17 | soap | Rockbox is ten times better than iPod linux at playing music. |
| 02:46:29 | rolama | I agree the sound quality is better but what else can I do I read pdf |
| 02:46:51 | soap | do you want to read a PDF on Rockbox, or are you saying you have read the PDF manual? |
| 02:48:39 | rolama | Want to read a PDF in Rockbox I saw him in a page that could or could even future |
| 02:49:16 | soap | Rockbox does not have a PDF viewer. |
| 02:49:45 | soap | :( |
| 02:50:22 | rolama | And pluying and applications are only brought default or I have more |
| 02:52:19 | rolama | And pluying and applications are only brought default or I have more |
| 02:54:12 | rolama | And pluying and applications are only brought default or I have more |
| 02:54:15 | cool_walking_ | We did see your message the first time, we are just having some difficulty understanding you. |
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| 02:57:30 | cool_walking_ | Could you try rephrasing? |
| 02:58:26 | rolama | Change that |
| 02:58:29 | cool_walking_ | There are some additional plugins if you are willing to compile your own build of Rockbox. |
| 02:59:10 | krazykit | none of them are PDF viewers though. |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:08 | cool_walking_ | Rockbox can currently only view plain text documents. There are PC tools available to convert PDF to plain text. Usually they are named "pdf2text" or something similar. |
| 03:00:12 | rolama | And where I get to explain |
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| 03:01:40 | rolama | And observe well the pdf where discharge converter |
| 03:03:25 | rolama | That changes the rockbox for 30gb and 60 and 80gb and has something to do such a version is the 5g and the other from 5.5g |
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| 03:06:09 | quest23 | what is car adapter mode in the general system settings for??? |
| 03:06:30 | cool_walking_ | rolama, are you using a language translator such as Babelfish or Google Translate? If so, maybe you could try another one. |
| 03:06:35 | Llorean | quest23: Is it not in the manual? |
| 03:07:19 | rolama | If you use Google |
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| 03:09:58 | rolama | And where I obtain the convertor and in that it(he,she) changes rockbox in the ipod of 30 and 60 and 80gb and also in as(according to) his(her,your) generations |
| 03:10:36 | rolama | This way already you can read it |
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| 03:14:55 | rolama | And where I obtain the convertor |
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| 03:15:34 | Llorean | rolama: The installation tools are described in the manual. |
| 03:15:40 | cool_walking_ | Which converter? PDF to plain text, or language translator? |
| 03:16:38 | rolama | PDF to plain text |
| 03:18:46 | rolama | Llorean Only I want to know of mas pluyings |
| 03:19:39 | Llorean | We do not know of more plugins. |
| 03:20:44 | rolama | And of applications |
| 03:21:10 | Llorean | Plugins are the same as applications. |
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| 03:22:07 | rolama | Then only I need the convertor of pdf to txt |
| 03:22:34 | Llorean | Use google. We don't have one. We only know they exist. |
| 03:22:50 | rolama | And topics apart from that sigh in the page |
| 03:23:36 | Llorean | I do not understand. |
| 03:24:01 | rolama | To ok thank you for his(her,your) help we meet then |
| 03:25:00 | rolama | Thank you |
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| 03:47:34 | Dark | Where can I download rockboy? :/ |
| 03:47:54 | Llorean | Please, read the manual. |
| 03:47:56 | Dark | I found a download before but it only had a .exe in it...or if thats what I need how do I install it to rockbox? |
| 03:48:20 | Dark | I've real everything in the past half hour -_- nothing. |
| 03:48:24 | Dark | read* |
| 03:48:44 | Llorean | What player do you have? |
| 03:48:54 | Dark | Sansa e250 |
| 03:49:27 | Llorean | So the manual has Rockboy in it? |
| 03:50:06 | Dark | Uh nope? |
| 03:50:11 | Dark | It does not. |
| 03:50:26 | Dark | The Wiki for Rockbox does, but it does not explain where to put it on the player :/. |
| 03:50:54 | Llorean | Dark: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansae200/rockbox-buildch10.html#x13-20100010.3.5 |
| 03:51:01 | Llorean | This certainly looks like a section in the e200 manual for Rockboy to me... |
| 03:52:04 | Dark | Thanks, the manual I have, I looked for rockboy...X_x, maybe plugins was the key word there. |
| 03:52:36 | Llorean | Well, that's the official manual. It's generated from the .pdf file we provide, which is also the official manual. |
| 03:52:43 | Llorean | Since one is generated from the other, the content is identical. |
| 03:53:07 | Llorean | If you were looking at something else, other than something from the page behind the "Manual" link at our site, then it's not the manual |
| 03:53:13 | Dark | Wait, thats the manual for rockboy, but it says nothing about where to put on the player? |
| 03:53:55 | Llorean | All official plugins are included... |
| 03:54:24 | Dark | Really? Mine doesn't have rockboy when I installed rockbox >_< |
| 03:54:32 | Llorean | Yes it does |
| 03:54:41 | Llorean | Read the manual section I linked for how to use it. |
| 03:54:53 | Llorean | Maybe read the section header for "Viewers" as well, while you're at it. |
| 03:56:20 | Dark | I'm still lost here, if it's included, where in plugins on the player is it? It's not in the games, apps, or demos.... |
| 03:56:37 | Llorean | Did you read the section header for Viewers like I just told you to? |
| 03:57:31 | Dark | Just did but it's a tad confusing.. |
| 03:57:50 | Llorean | What exactly don't you understand? |
| 03:58:37 | Dark | Something about .links and having to create a .txt...? |
| 03:59:23 | Llorean | Uhm, are you sure you didn't just read the text viewer section, rather than the header for 'Viewers'? |
| 03:59:27 | Llorean | Please, take your time and read carefully |
| 03:59:54 | Llorean | Viewers cannot be run directly, you just play the file with the associated extension |
| 03:59:59 | Llorean | In the rockboy section it says "To start a game open a ROM file saved as .gb or .gbc in the file browser." |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:15 | Llorean | So, you "play" a .gbc file, and it runs. |
| 04:00:26 | Dark | Yes I've read the viewers. |
| 04:00:45 | Dark | ...Yes I know that |
| 04:00:52 | Dark | The problem is I don't -have- rockboy.. |
| 04:00:57 | Llorean | Yes, you DO |
| 04:01:06 | Llorean | Have you tried simply clicking on a .gbc file in the file browser? |
| 04:01:11 | Llorean | Exactly like it tells you to do? |
| 04:01:26 | Dark | x-X ooooh I get it. |
| 04:01:33 | Dark | I have to put the roms on, and I don't technically click rockboy... |
| 04:01:59 | Llorean | In there it explicitly says that you DON'T run the viewer itself |
| 04:02:10 | Dark | oh >_> so where should I put the roms?.. |
| 04:02:17 | Llorean | Anywhere |
| 04:02:37 | Dark | alright. |
| 04:02:38 | Dark | Let's see. |
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| 04:04:28 | Dark | I put the rom in the "games" folder, but it's not showing up? |
| 04:05:08 | Llorean | Are you using the normal file browser, and what do you have the "File view" setting set as? |
| 04:05:55 | Dark | Normal File Browser? And File view? [I have touched nothing since I installed rockbox so that may explain somethings] |
| 04:06:33 | Llorean | The "Files" option in the main menu. |
| 04:07:21 | Dark | Ah, so I create a folder there, and then...hmm |
| 04:07:31 | Llorean | "Files" is the file browser. |
| 04:07:35 | Dark | gotcha. |
| 04:07:40 | Llorean | I strongly suggest you spend a little more time getting familiar with the basics. |
| 04:07:47 | Llorean | Wherever you put them, you'll have to be able to find them through "Files" |
| 04:07:57 | Dark | so could I create a folder in the root named roms |
| 04:07:58 | Dark | and put them there |
| 04:08:00 | Dark | and acess it like that? |
| 04:08:05 | Llorean | It's going to be next to impossible for someone to help you decently if you're not familiar with the stuff in the manual. |
| 04:08:07 | Llorean | And, yes. |
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| 04:43:20 | Dark | is there any way to power-off my sansa e250? >_> it crashed...holding power fails... |
| 04:45:32 | fpletz | Dark: just keep on pressing power for about 20 seconds, should turn off anyway |
| 04:47:20 | Dark | oh lol |
| 04:47:22 | Dark | 50 seconds and it finally did |
| 04:48:06 | fpletz | hmm, never had to hold down that long ;) |
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| 04:52:28 | tarelerulz | I have the ipod nano block that does video , songs and photos |
| 04:52:43 | tarelerulz | I was wondering does rockbox work on that? |
| 04:53:37 | Llorean | No. |
| 04:53:49 | Llorean | Rockbox only works on the first iPod Nano |
| 04:55:11 | tarelerulz | Can you get interface to be easy to use like the ipod ? can you change stuff like that? |
| 04:56:03 | Llorean | I don't understand what you're asking. |
| 04:57:27 | tarelerulz | I have seen the rockbox gui and I was wondering change you chage it to something different. Layout , icons , ect |
| 04:58:11 | Llorean | It's open source, so technically you can change it however you want. |
| 04:58:40 | Llorean | But, more generally, the screen you see while music is playing is fully customizable, while the menus are more restricted. You can change the font, and icons, and colors, and background, but not much else right now |
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| 06:14:45 | Llorean | jhMikeS: You around? |
| 06:19:56 | jhMikeS | si |
| 06:20:13 | Llorean | Just wondering, now that UMS seems to work, maybe the bootloader should boot Rockbox primary now? |
| 06:20:40 | jhMikeS | could do that, yes |
| 06:20:55 | jhMikeS | Seems stable enough |
| 06:21:28 | Llorean | Seems logical to me, but I didn't know if there was any reasons I didn't know about for the reversed boot. |
| 06:22:25 | jhMikeS | not to me. it's still a developer port and flicking hold is annoying if retailos is on it. |
| 06:22:39 | Llorean | Yes |
| 06:26:37 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: (for the logs) I think I found the reason for the USB trouble on PP. Try setting USBMODE_STREAM_DISABLE in REG_USBMODE and putting things back in RAM as they were. I ran 2GB both ways with and without a hub without "no prime" or "bus reset" on H10. TXFILLTUNING should probably be configured instead of using that bit. This makes sense since it adjusts for system memory latencies and suggest as to why IRAM would have a positive effect
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| 07:38:41 | raphi | kann mir jemand sagen, wie eine 'database.ignore' aussehen soll? Wie muss ich da die pfade eintragen? |
| 07:41:33 | Llorean | raphi: This is an English language channel, please. |
| 07:42:04 | w1ll14m|aw | Llorean: how is it possible that you are here so much ? |
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| 07:42:31 | w1ll14m | i mean... you are here in the evenings, in the mornings, and in the nights.... |
| 07:42:33 | raphi | ok, sorry, I just wanted to ask how to use the 'database.ignore'. How shall I write the path in there? backslashes? normal slashes..? |
| 07:42:46 | Llorean | You don't put anything in it. |
| 07:42:52 | Llorean | You make copies of it. |
| 07:43:11 | Llorean | If you put a file called database.ignore in D:\stuff\, then the database will ignore everything in D:\stuff |
| 07:43:40 | raphi | Ok, no I know why that didn't work.... |
| 07:43:42 | raphi | Thanks! |
| 07:43:45 | w1ll14m | anyways, i'm gone to work :) see ya all soon. |
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| 07:43:56 | Llorean | w1ll14m: I'm very often near a computer. If I am, I try to leave a client open |
| 07:44:04 | w1ll14m|aw | ahh :) |
| 07:44:27 | w1ll14m|aw | well... i guess i'll see you aroung tonight when i'm back ;) |
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