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#rockbox log for 2008-04-27

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00:38:28juzzhi ppl
00:39:04juzzhow is the development on the Samsung P2 goind?
00:40:30gevaertsYou can probably find the most up to date information in the forum thread about it
00:42:15juzzcould you link me? im not that good looking up at the rockbox forum
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00:43:01gevaertsIt's in the "New Ports" section. Each port in progress has a thread there
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00:45:04juzzok.. thank you
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00:47:51juzzno news about rockbox for P2 on the forums.. :(
00:48:02juzzi really do want rockbox..
00:48:17gevaertsThen there probably is no progress unfortunately...
00:49:44juzzare you one of the developers of rockbox.. ?
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00:50:09gevaertsYes. One of the newer ones
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00:55:43preglowhaven't heard of any progress on that, no
00:56:02preglowor even the start of a port...
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05:25:27MrcheesenipsCan I right code for Rockbox and execute it on the Ipod Nano 1st Gen with Rockbox?
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05:27:49LloreanYes.
05:28:12LloreanFor the compiling step you'll need a PC though.
05:29:07MrcheesenipsI have a PC. So, whats the first step?
05:29:43LloreanRead the SimpleGuideToCompiling wiki page.
05:30:25Mrcheesenipsk
05:30:44Mrcheesenipsthanks
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08:18:01stuntmasterHai.
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08:34:57markunstuntmaster: hi
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08:49:20stuntmasterHmm...
08:49:24stuntmasterI have a problem.
08:49:36stuntmasterMy music isn't playing on Rockbox's firmware. :/
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08:50:56scorchestuntmaster: well, what happens?
08:50:56advcomp2019stuntmaster, what player do you have?
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09:49:52markunfuturist2: problems with your connection?
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10:56:21markunBagder: I needed to add support for big-endian arm targets in the crosscompiler for the meizu port. Is this patch ok to upload? http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/rockbox-multilibs-arm-elf-gcc-4.0.3.diff
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11:01:50linuxstbmarkun: Why do we need big-endian arm targets?
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11:15:40markunlinuxstb: because the meizu bootloader expects our code to be big-endian.
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11:16:24JdGordonmarkun: default_interrupt() i mean (look in any of the system-target .c files)
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11:17:03markunlinuxstb: do you think is it possible to just have the first branch in the interrupt and the first instruction it jumps
11:17:20markunbe big-endian and then switch to little-endian mode?
11:18:01markun(sorry for the strange sentence, was editing it and pressed enter by accident)
11:18:17markunJdGordon: thanks
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11:22:53linuxstbmarkun: Maybe. I'm thinking that maybe some of the asm-optimised ARM code will be assuming little-endian, so it could complicate things to support both modes. I don't know though.
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11:24:21markunlinuxstb: that's also what I think
11:25:00linuxstbBut maybe there is a reason Meizu chose big-endian mode...
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11:25:20markunfor now I'll just compile my meizu testcode in big-endian and then we can try to work around it later
11:25:41linuxstbYes, it's probably too early to decide.
11:25:45markunmaybe they chose big-endian mode because the calmrisc is also big endian
11:25:57linuxstbAh, that would make sense.
11:26:17linuxstbDo they share RAM?
11:26:40markunthey have some memory mapped registers to communicate
11:26:56markunbut I didn't really look into it yet
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11:55:42ali_aslinuxstb, I'm extremely confused with the start of a firmware, LDR PC, =0x20000060, an unconditional jump to SDRAM, I don't get it, how can the sdram be setup and working?
11:57:17gevaertsluck ?
11:57:19linuxstbIt's initialised by the boot-rom code embedded in the tcc SoC
11:57:21*gevaerts runs away
11:57:54ali_asWhere does the SDRAM config value come from and how is the code copied to SDRAM?
11:58:26ali_asI can't see anything like that in the chip datasheet.
11:58:45linuxstbI don't know how it happens in NAND boot mode, but in the USB boot mode (i.e. tcctool), it's transferred over USB to the device as part of the header.
11:59:03linuxstbali_as: BTW, what target are you investigating?
11:59:31ali_asThis is on my K3, but also on some poor chaps iriver x20 came in yesterday having bricked it.
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12:00:17ali_asCouldn't use tcctool as we couldn't find an SDRAM config value to use.
12:00:32linuxstbNone of the existing ones worked?
12:00:58linuxstbSome devices have different USB PIDs in usb boot mode, so you would need to edit tcctool to try them.
12:01:13ali_asThe chip is an 8200. b051.
12:02:20ali_asI've looked at trying to make a generic value using the datasheet and guessed numbers but hard to come up with plausable values for sdram refersh rates.
12:03:36ali_asI think he's damaged the circuitboard trying to solder a switch to the bootstrap points (His last email this morning) so he may not be able to try anything else.
12:04:03ali_asBut infuriating the firmware doesn't seem to contain the sdram value.
12:09:04bertriknanok, about the sansa v2's, I don't know what exactly the current stumbling block is, as far as I can see on bagders site lack of recovery mode could be it
12:09:37J-23What's tcctool?
12:10:09linuxstbJ-23: A tool that communicates with Telechips CPUs in "usb boot mode"
12:10:22J-23linuxstb: thanks.
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12:13:49JdGordonthe ifp sim isnt being built anymore?
12:14:48DerPapstright
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13:16:38instinct-hi everyone
13:17:58instinct-Anyone knows if it is possible to find out if a Sansa280 is v1 or v2 by the model number ? been googling since a while without getting smarter
13:18:32gevaertsMaybe it's possible, but I never heard of a way to do this
13:18:34scorche|shdo you have the device in your hand?
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13:19:40instinct-sadly not. Am looking into buying a new player as my elio is slowly dying, so i was looking to find a way to buy a v1 as i'd love to use rockbox
13:19:52*n1s sees great things on the frontpage :)
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13:20:52*gevaerts agrees
13:22:54BigBambijhMikeS is a machine
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13:27:02instinct-hm. The v2 has microSDHC and the vendor lists MicroSD only and no audible support...but might be just copy/paste *sigh*
13:28:45scorche|shinstinct-: you cant really tell unless the device is in your hand, sadly
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13:29:33pixelmadomonoky: you really around?
13:29:48*domonoky nods
13:30:25instinct-according to the sandisk forums the packaging is different. so i might switch onlineshop and pay a tad more to talk to a sales person before hmm
13:31:02gevaertsThe packaging is different, but some of the packages are mixed up
13:32:15instinct-dang
13:32:27pixelmadomonoky: saw your edits on the DevConEuro page. Do you need more info about how to get to the location etc.?
13:32:29instinct-so i might just risk it and send it back if it's the wrong one i guess.
13:33:15instinct-Luckily laws allow a reasonless return with moneyback when ordering online
13:34:04gevaertsWhy reasonless ? "I don't want SDHC" is a perfectly good reason :)
13:34:09domonokypixelma: i think i will find it.. there are already directions from the main-station to DevCon, and google maps also helps.. :-)
13:37:12instinct-lol
13:37:34pixelmadomonoky: as you wish. If your train takes the east-west route through Berlin it might be a bit more comfortable to only get out at Ostbahnhof but Hauptbahnhof is quite ok in any case.
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13:38:19pixelmaprobably west > east though :)
13:38:40domonokyjup :-)
13:39:17DerPapstjhMikeS: nice commit! :-)
13:39:53amiconnjhMikeS: ping...
13:40:10instinct-oddly enough there are two different product codes for the 8GB one, tho i didnt find any info what is actually different. As it seems that it doesnt say anything about v1 or v2
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14:15:53BigBambiAnyone with an Archos recorder v1 - is the S/PDIF optical or coax, and is there a setting to enable it, or is it always on? (I can't find one in the sim)
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14:16:54pixelmaI only know that it's not optical (don't have a Recorder V1 myself)
14:17:07BigBambiOK
14:17:20Bagderit's not? I thought it was... :-)
14:17:26BigBambiI'm doing a quick ammendment to the manual to include the H1x0 optical out setting
14:17:30Bagderand yeah I have one somewhere...
14:17:40pixelmaoptical?
14:17:47BigBambiAnd I want to check if I need to mention ot for the recorder or not as well :)
14:17:52Bagderwell, I've never used it
14:17:54BigBambis/ot/it
14:18:08pixelmaamiconn uses it, so...
14:18:11LloreanI've never used it, but *someone* once said it was coax
14:18:17LloreanAnd I seem to recall it was someone who'd actually know
14:18:36BigBambiThe question is mainly is there a menu option for it. If there is, it should be in the manual and I might as well add it while I'm at it
14:18:46amiconnIt's coax, and it's always on
14:18:57BigBambiamiconn: Thanks very much :)
14:19:37amiconnIt costs practically no power to leave it enabled (unlike the LED for optical s/pdif), so an option is unnecessary
14:20:07*amiconn uses it quite often at home
14:20:44BigBambiI use the optical on my h1x0 quite a bit at home too
14:21:36BigBambiHow do I do a diff of one file only?
14:21:51Bagdersvn diff [file]
14:21:58BigBambithanks
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14:26:48BigBambipixelma: Seeing as you are here, fancy a quick manual patch: http://www.aeparker.com/rockbox/optical.diff I used opt{h1xx} as I couldn't spot one for optical output
14:33:17amiconnBigBambi: spdif_power is the feature you want
14:33:29BigBambiamiconn: Ah thanks
14:33:33BigBambiI'll change it
14:34:27pixelmaBigBambi: sorry, seems I can't do that ATM - not at home and I don't have access to my remote "environment" currently
14:34:42BigBambiDon't worry, I'll stick it on flyspray
14:34:44pixelmabuild environment that is
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14:38:59gevaertsIs it just me, or are the FS rss2 feeds for opened tasks and edited tasks the same since a few days ?
14:39:57pixelmaBigBambi: in case you wonder, should be one of the UseOptions that you can use for 'opt'ing that's automatically generated from the languages' features.txt (you should have a features.tex in the manual build directory somewhere which list's them)
14:40:18pixelmaeh...
14:40:22pixelma*lists
14:40:28BigBambipixelma: thanks
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14:41:34JdGordondo any targets allow you to set a 0.5dB volume increment? or are all only in 1dB steps?
14:41:59amiconnneither, afaik
14:42:03BigBambihttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8941 if anyone fancies a quick manual thang
14:42:20amiconnMost are in 1dB steps, but some are in 1.5dB steps afaik
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14:46:02gevaertsBigBambi: "allow digital connection" or "allow a digital connection" ?
14:46:33BigBambier, allow a digitial connection or allow digital connections
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14:46:39BigBambibut the first is better
14:46:52*BigBambi slaps head
14:46:55*gevaerts assumes that you can only have one connection at a time
14:46:56BigBambigevaerts: thanks
14:47:00BigBambigevaerts: yep
14:47:17BigBambibut allow digital connections could also be used in a general sense
14:47:24BigBambibut the first is better
14:47:27amiconnActually the Player is such a case. The DAC only allows 1.5dB steps (and at the lowest levels even 3dB steps). However, rockbox uses 1 dB steps and then just rounds.
14:48:17BigBambigevaerts: I actually changed that but uploaded the wrong version
14:49:31BigBambinew one there now!
14:50:38linuxstbBuschel: Around?
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14:51:20gevaertsBigBambi: committed
14:51:26BigBambigevaerts: cheers
14:52:01BigBambiI've closed the task
14:52:46pixelmashort-lived one :)
14:52:55*gevaerts increased his commit count again :)
14:52:57JdGordonamiconn: ok ta...
14:53:35BigBambiYeah - got to one of the fastest opened and closed without the comment "Don't request ports" :)
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14:54:51gevaertsWell, I test-built twice (one for h100, and one other), and I proofread it, so all needed steps should be done :)
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14:54:55JdGordonthe mr500 uses the touchpad chip for touchpad and the DAC... should I add a 2nd define for TSC2100_DAC (or something?) or is it fairly liekly that any target using it would use it for both?
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