| 00:00:05 | Bagder | 53 fine megs |
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| 00:05:00 | Megarain | Hey, any one know if the apple Firewire/usb combo cables can cause issues during restoration? |
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| 00:06:03 | krazykit | Megarain, as long as they work for normal transfers, they shouldn't cause any issue |
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| 00:06:36 | Megarain | That's just it, every time I've tried them for normal sync, after the ~256mb of data, I get error 69 |
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| 00:22:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | toffe82: Ping |
| 00:22:45 | toffe82 | pong |
| 00:22:57 | LambdaCalculus37 | toffe82: Did you receive my beast yet? |
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| 00:24:28 | toffe82 | no, I don't know what happened , it was out for delivery on friday and they take it back to their office, I should have it on monday |
| 00:24:51 | toffe82 | I will call them on monday morning |
| 00:25:01 | LambdaCalculus37 | Okay, let me know as well. |
| 00:26:08 | LambdaCalculus37 | Bye for now! |
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| 00:37:43 | toffe82 | I have problem compiling the S, the bootloader is ok but rockbox give an error on rockbocklogo.h, no such file or directory, I just made an svn update , any idea ? |
| 00:38:06 | toffe82 | rockboxlogo ^^ |
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| 00:39:46 | toffe82 | jhMikeS: ping |
| 00:40:49 | Nico_P | toffe82: try cleaning your build |
| 00:41:26 | toffe82 | ok |
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| 00:43:52 | toffe82 | it is working |
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| 01:12:10 | aliask | jhMikeS: Congrats on the gigabeat sound work! |
| 01:14:23 | aliask | But I have some slightly unsavoury behaviour happening. I initialised the database, enabled dircache and rebooted the player and it appears to have corrupted the filesystem. |
| 01:15:52 | aliask | Under rockbox my music folder is empty, but some files in the root show. When connecting via usb the whole media partition is empty |
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| 01:24:03 | JdGordon | XavierGr: hey, I found your patch to merge the alarm and time screens last night and thought i'd see if you wanted to finish it? |
| 01:24:50 | JdGordon | and maybe even redraw the screen using viewports instead of the gui_textarea stuff... |
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| 01:51:05 | XavierGr | JdGordon: wow that's an old patch indeed I completely forgot about it |
| 01:51:22 | XavierGr | you have plans for it at the moment? |
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| 01:56:10 | XavierGr | I didn't finish it mainly because I once considered to rewrite the alarm drivers to include date |
| 01:56:54 | XavierGr | so at the moment the screens are unified but seconds are left on the alarm screen which should be removed, at least for now that the alarm settings don't include seconds |
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| 02:30:18 | HiddenShadow | Does either rockbox or linux have the capability to make mp3's increase in speed? (im not talking about time stretching, just faster/slower, doesn't really matter if it changes pitch when it speeds up) |
| 02:30:34 | HiddenShadow | and decrease* |
| 02:33:03 | ReKleSS | sox can do it |
| 02:33:16 | krazykit | rockbox has this capability. refer to the manual for how to do it |
| 02:40:16 | HiddenShadow | thanks |
| 02:42:28 | HiddenShadow | sweet now we got 3 decks on our dj set, vinyl turntable x2, + ipod :D |
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| 02:43:39 | Megarain | Hey, how many paritions should an 4G grayscle ipod have? |
| 02:44:13 | HiddenShadow | atleast 10, lol jk, dont listen to me |
| 02:44:35 | krazykit | HiddenShadow, please don't do that. |
| 02:44:57 | Megarain | Cause mine has four, and has been having issues.......wondering if that is causing part of the trouble. |
| 02:45:08 | scorche|sh | define "issues" |
| 02:45:24 | HiddenShadow | sorry |
| 02:46:18 | Megarain | corrupting with now known cause. |
| 02:46:28 | Megarain | With both Rockbox and the iTunes firmware. |
| 02:50:00 | Megarain | so I'm trying to trace down the issues. |
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| 03:13:25 | JdGordon|uni | XavierGr: (sorry, had to run to uni...) no I dont have plans for it... but I want to remove the gui_textarea code which the clock screens use... |
| 03:13:40 | kb_ | I'd like to dynamically generate playlists according to some specific criteria. Would it be best to alter the rockbox code to do this, or create a plugin to make these playlists? |
| 03:14:07 | JdGordon|uni | what criteria? |
| 03:14:47 | kb_ | basically, to play songs from a certain directory for a certain amount of time, then switch to another; I wrote some python code that does it on my desktop computer, and I'm wondering how to best port it to rockbox |
| 03:15:39 | kb_ | (more specifically, I have one language per directory, and weight the frequency I play them at, as well as how long to listen to any particular one in a row) |
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| 03:19:06 | ryanakca | Is there any way to build the database from the CLI / a linux comp? On do I need to wait for a few hours while it builds? |
| 03:19:41 | JdGordon|uni | there is a tool to do it under the tools/ folder... dnno if its kept up to date or not though |
| 03:19:50 | JdGordon|uni | kb_: yeah, duno howd you go about doing that in rockbox |
| 03:20:19 | kb_ | JdGordon: hm, ok; maybe I'll dig into how the current dynamic playlist stuff is done and do a variant on that |
| 03:20:19 | ryanakca | JdGordon|uni: thanks :) |
| 03:21:05 | Llorean | ryanakca: It shouldn't take hours, though... |
| 03:22:03 | HiddenShadow | in rockbox (ipod 5g) when i set it to Charge during USB connection, it just keeps going back to disk mode...is it a known bug, or am i doing something wrong? |
| 03:22:06 | ryanakca | Llorean: hmmm... *shrugs*... I had it plugged in, and it just seems to stall after a certain point... and then if I restart the iPod, it starts again at 0 and stalls at that certain point |
| 03:23:04 | Llorean | That stall would indicate a problem... not that you need to wait longer. |
| 03:23:53 | ryanakca | Llorean: any idea what that problem would be? The install is a daily from mid-september '07 iirc... |
| 03:24:57 | ryanakca | (1st gen nano) |
| 03:25:04 | Llorean | Well first, we really don't support old versions. |
| 03:25:07 | JdGordon|uni | get a new build |
| 03:25:32 | Llorean | But odds are it's something in your metadata. Depends an awful lot, could be large album art, or perhaps AACs not optimized for streaming. |
| 03:28:05 | kb_ | Llorean: by the way, any ideas/advice about the question I asked? |
| 03:29:42 | ryanakca | Llorean: hmm... thanks |
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| 03:37:23 | ryanakca | Llorean: hmmm... fresh install worked :) |
| 03:37:54 | kb_ | ryanakca: congrats :) |
| 03:38:36 | ryanakca | lol, thanks :) |
| 03:38:55 | HiddenShadow | anybody gonna answer my question above? :\ |
| 03:39:33 | kb_ | i would if i had any idea |
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| 03:41:47 | HiddenShadow | Can't get "Charge during USB connection" to work, it keeps going back to disk mode |
| 03:43:45 | JdGordon|uni | you have to hold down a button while pluggin in or it reboots |
| 03:52:33 | HiddenShadow | oh, i thought it was automatic, guess it was kept the same after that patch |
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| 04:48:39 | * | jpt9 wants a PC port of brickmania :-) |
| 04:48:45 | jpt9 | (Yeah, I know there are simulators. |
| 04:48:55 | jpt9 | it'd be nice if the simulators could zoom to 3x or 4x size. |
| 04:49:05 | jpt9 | and possibly map mouse movement to left/right |
| 04:51:39 | XavierGr | JdGordon: I will try to have a look on viewports tomorrow, I don't know much about them |
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| 05:04:49 | cool_walking_ | jpt9: There must be a million breakout clones for PC out there... |
| 05:05:03 | scorche|sh | and every one is offtopic ;) |
| 05:05:35 | cool_walking_ | Damn, that was fast. Nice, scorche. |
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| 08:03:48 | JdGordon | :( I dont think the menu code will work too well with inline settings.. well.. not without a bit of fiddling :/ |
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| 08:19:41 | JdGordon | ... this would be easier if we didnt have dynamic menus :/ |
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| 08:20:37 | amiconn | JdGordon: Why would we want inline settings now? |
| 08:21:05 | JdGordon | some people do |
| 08:21:14 | * | amiconn thinks they make no sense on most target's LCDs |
| 08:21:16 | JdGordon | some have wanted them for gaes |
| 08:21:22 | JdGordon | why? |
| 08:21:37 | JdGordon | s/gaes/ages |
| 08:21:42 | amiconn | On small displays they would be confusing |
| 08:21:59 | amiconn | Maybe on 320x240 and higher they would work well enough |
| 08:22:08 | JdGordon | it wold fo course be disable-able (if not disabled by default) |
| 08:22:28 | amiconn | Take a look at the recording trigger screen - it's really ugly |
| 08:22:34 | JdGordon | I know |
| 08:23:49 | amiconn | Imho they shouldn't be included at all on smaller displays (if we want them at all - I very much prefer the current implementation of settings) |
| 08:25:15 | JdGordon | I want to do it so only the value of the selected item is actually displayed |
| 08:25:53 | JdGordon | but I have a strange feeling it wont happen at all because the menu code isnt perfect |
| 08:26:20 | amiconn | Displayed would be okay (except on charcell), but changing is another thing |
| 08:26:35 | JdGordon | of course... 1 thing at a time |
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| 08:27:36 | amiconn | Adjusting inline settings has another fundamental problem apart from the confusing screen layout on smaller screens: button assignment |
| 08:28:26 | JdGordon | it would work fine with left/right on all targets except the ondio |
| 08:28:33 | JdGordon | whose screen is too small for it anyway |
| 08:29:16 | JdGordon | but even just displaying the value is nice.. a few less presses to find out what the value is |
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| 08:32:09 | * | amiconn wonders how often JdGordon needs to go through settings and find out a value |
| 08:33:57 | amiconn | What's really in need of rework is the eq screen... |
| 08:36:25 | amiconn | ...and the recording screen |
| 08:36:30 | JdGordon | and fm |
| 08:36:33 | JdGordon | and time |
| 08:36:56 | JdGordon | and really.... apps/screens.c |
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| 08:39:31 | amiconn | What's wrong with the fm and time screen? |
| 08:41:20 | JdGordon | time isnt so bad, fm is ugly |
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| 08:41:59 | amiconn | FM might not be perfect, but it's usable (no sysfont, for instance) |
| 08:42:39 | amiconn | Btw, there's a fundamental problem with many read-only info lists: they are currently useless on smaller displays |
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| 08:43:30 | amiconn | Problem is that the lines are cut before the relevant information, and the lines don't scroll |
| 08:44:09 | JdGordon | the lines dont scroll? |
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| 08:45:34 | JdGordon | which ones? just add info.scroll_all = true; before the simplelist_init() call to fix them |
| 08:46:23 | amiconn | 'View OS stacks', 'View partitions', 'View disk info', 'View database info' |
| 08:47:54 | amiconn | 'Rockbox Info' does scroll on recorder, but iirc it seems to be inconsistent |
| 08:48:01 | amiconn | Need to check that |
| 08:48:31 | amiconn | 'Rockbox Info' isn't handled as read-only lists though. Same goes for the tag info viewer |
| 08:48:59 | JdGordon | rockbox info is handled as read only unless we arnt talking |
| 08:52:10 | amiconn | Why does 'Rockbox Info' show a cursor then? |
| 08:53:35 | JdGordon | you havnt disabled voice |
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| 08:54:53 | JdGordon | any ideas who to put (c) for the pitchscreen code? |
| 08:56:19 | JdGordon | r9146 suggests midkay, "Reworked pitch screen for easier adjustment and better looks." ? |
| 08:57:39 | JdGordon | or just keep zagor from screens.c? |
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| 09:00:11 | Mouser_X | Sound on the S is great. Battery life not so much... |
| 09:00:15 | linuxstb | It seems lots of people have changed that code over time, so I would probably just keep Zagor's name there. |
| 09:00:45 | * | Mouser_X realizes that the battery life will improve. |
| 09:01:02 | Mouser_X | (Lots of "easy" fixes to implement.) |
| 09:03:12 | * | JdGordon hates modifying files with Björn's name in the (c).. it never works right :p |
| 09:04:32 | amiconn | JdGordon: Hmm, then you actually meant the opposite... |
| 09:04:56 | amiconn | Of course I have voice enabled on recorder for car mode (which goes with a big font) |
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| 09:05:09 | JdGordon | then it should show the selector |
| 09:05:20 | amiconn | I guess this is necessary for selecting the items to talk? |
| 09:05:26 | JdGordon | yes |
| 09:05:33 | JdGordon | [16:53:50] <JdGordon> you havnt disabled voice |
| 09:05:42 | amiconn | [08:48:59] <JdGordon> rockbox info is handled as read only unless we arnt talking |
| 09:05:54 | amiconn | ^ "unless we aren't" ... |
| 09:06:00 | * | JdGordon is a bit skitzo today :p |
| 09:06:05 | amiconn | KIinda double negation |
| 09:06:28 | JdGordon | damn that extra t |
| 09:06:32 | JdGordon | and n |
| 09:07:09 | amiconn | With voice disabled, 'Rockbox Info' is indeed read-only, but doesn't scroll its items |
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| 09:07:45 | JdGordon | so what your asying is.... read only lists should always scroll all items? |
| 09:08:12 | amiconn | I think they should (only if the items are that long of course) |
| 09:08:20 | amiconn | How else would you be able to read them? |
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| 09:10:51 | Mouser_X | Magic, or telepathy. |
| 09:11:32 | * | JdGordon votes for telepathy |
| 09:12:17 | * | Mouser_X does as well, since magic can get messy really fast. |
| 09:12:42 | amiconn | Kinda extreme case: Right now I only see 'Version: r' in 'Rockbox Info' on the Player |
| 09:12:57 | amiconn | Not very helpful... |
| 09:13:01 | JdGordon | fixed... wait for the next build round |
| 09:13:11 | linuxstb | JdGordon: You didn't use "svn cp" to move the pitchscreen code? |
| 09:13:20 | JdGordon | no |
| 09:13:33 | JdGordon | I agreed that it wasnt the nicest way and not really worth it |
| 09:13:54 | linuxstb | Agreed with who? |
| 09:14:08 | JdGordon | with what I thought I read :p |
| 09:14:17 | JdGordon | the log says where it came from if its ever needed |
| 09:15:10 | linuxstb | Yes, but "svn annotate" now doesn't work... |
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| 09:15:34 | amiconn | Hmm. I wonder whether we should try to reclaim the one (precious) column on Player which is now wasted in read-only lists |
| 09:15:57 | amiconn | (the one containing the arrow cursor in non-read-only lists) |
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| 09:16:38 | amiconn | Would mean special casing though, which isn't nice... |
| 09:16:49 | JdGordon | not do muvh |
| 09:17:14 | amiconn | ? |
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| 09:22:50 | amiconn | [09:16:49] <JdGordon> not do muvh <= ? |
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| 09:25:01 | scorche|sh | much |
| 09:25:21 | scorche|sh | though it still doesnt make sense... |
| 09:25:26 | amiconn | yeah |
| 09:29:21 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Red for the ZVM build (if you didn't notice...) |
| 09:30:34 | amiconn | Wrong struct names... |
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| 09:50:23 | * | linuxstb fixes the ZVM red |
| 09:51:07 | B4gder | colorful delta table |
| 09:51:34 | * | linuxstb wonders if shotofadds minds removing the #warnings from the D2 |
| 09:52:08 | B4gder | would be nice to reach complete green again |
| 09:53:56 | linuxstb | B4gder: BTW, I don't know if the build system needs to know, but my server died a couple of weeks ago, and is still off-line. |
| 09:54:24 | B4gder | it doesn't need to know, although I can of course save it from trying that server |
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| 09:56:20 | linuxstb | B4gder: Do you know if there's a reason the different svn pages on www use different timezones? i.e. is it hard to fix? |
| 09:56:59 | B4gder | I don't know the reason but it shouldn't be that hard I think |
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| 10:00:39 | linuxstb | B4gder: Is the script in SVN? |
| 10:00:49 | B4gder | which one? |
| 10:00:59 | JdGordon | linuxstb: nuts, thanks for fixing that |
| 10:01:16 | linuxstb | You're welcome. |
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| 10:01:50 | JdGordon | linux even :p |
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| 10:06:06 | JdGordon | naming conventionas ftw :p |
| 10:20:49 | linuxstb | B4gder: Do you have an opinion about the legal aspect of ROKR simulator build? i.e. linking to a proprietory version of the qt/embedded libs, and using reverse-engineered headers? |
| 10:22:04 | B4gder | I don't see any problems with that |
| 10:22:15 | B4gder | as long as we don't distribute dubious files |
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| 10:22:29 | JdGordon | there is also the speculation that the dubious files were nicked... |
| 10:22:36 | linuxstb | But isn't that just the same as GPL'd apps linking with old (non-GPL'd) versions of Qt? |
| 10:22:55 | B4gder | but linking with non-GPL stuff is not a problem when not distributed |
| 10:24:12 | linuxstb | What do you mean? |
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| 10:25:22 | B4gder | I'm saying that linking GPL code with whatever is fine as long as the results isn't distributed |
| 10:25:59 | B4gder | so if you get the proprietary stuff from source X and rockbox from us, and link them into product Y that's fine as logn as you don't copy it to others |
| 10:27:11 | linuxstb | So people could create proprietory plugins, and that's fine as long as they're distributed separately (and don't use Rockbox headers to build them)? |
| 10:27:54 | B4gder | you can't build rockbox plugins without them being derivates of Rockbox so I don't think people can |
| 10:28:29 | linuxstb | I'm sure you could build a "rockbox-compatible" plugin independently. |
| 10:28:51 | B4gder | true, and if you do that could probably be non-GPL |
| 10:31:24 | scorche | B4gder: have you approved sdoyon yet on the mentor app? |
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| 10:32:07 | B4gder | uh, I have now! |
| 10:32:47 | scorche | thanks...Leslie came to me a week or so ago asking if i can vouch for him :) |
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| 10:34:53 | petur | do all slots no have a co-mentor? |
| 10:34:57 | petur | *now |
| 10:35:45 | B4gder | I don't think the ARM emulator does |
| 10:36:22 | B4gder | and in fact not Saratoga's either |
| 10:37:04 | JdGordon | how on earth could someone make the compatible headers needed for plugins other than by straight copying them? imo thats a weak spot in the gpl |
| 10:37:34 | ReKleSS | JdGordon: reversing a plugin? |
| 10:37:38 | B4gder | you could reverse engineer an existing binary and generate a blob quite similar to that |
| 10:37:46 | B4gder | shouldn't be very hard |
| 10:38:00 | B4gder | of course that is a grey area |
| 10:38:10 | JdGordon | the blob is the easy bit... the api headers im talking about |
| 10:38:33 | ReKleSS | JdGordon: the ps2dev guys pulled it off to make the PSP sdk |
| 10:38:48 | ReKleSS | (it helps that they found a binary with debug info left in...) |
| 10:38:54 | B4gder | well, a non-GPL plugin wouldn't use much of the plugin api I would think |
| 10:38:57 | gevaerts | I seem to remember that at least in some jurisdictions interfaces are not copyrightable, so the plugin api minus comments and documentation would apply |
| 10:39:22 | linuxstb | There are also macros and inline functions... |
| 10:39:38 | JdGordon | and defines, and datatypes |
| 10:39:43 | JdGordon | and and... |
| 10:40:20 | B4gder | it would be work sure, and keeping up with changes would be painful, but it certainly wouldn't be impossible |
| 10:40:48 | * | gevaerts isn't actually planning to make a non-GPL pluging, so he isn't planning to work out the details |
| 10:41:25 | B4gder | and if _I_ were to do it, I'd write a fine GPL wrapper plugin that would load the proprietary one just like the linux drivers do their work-arounds |
| 10:41:50 | B4gder | and just like Neuros want to circumvent the VLC GPL... |
| 10:42:26 | linuxstb | A very minimal plugin would just need lcd_update(), the pointer to lcd_framebuffer, button_get and yield. |
| 10:42:33 | linuxstb | Plus some startup code I guess. |
| 10:42:49 | linuxstb | Or does the plugin loader do that? |
| 10:42:50 | JdGordon | wouldnt that plugins api need to be gpl also though? |
| 10:44:10 | * | linuxstb doesnloads the ROKR SDK - a .tar.gz file inside a .rar... |
| 10:44:29 | B4gder | doesnloads! |
| 10:44:32 | B4gder | :-) |
| 10:44:53 | linuxstb | No idea where that came from ;) |
| 10:45:16 | scorche | so how exactly would this work out?...i mean it is a bit more than just a plugin... |
| 10:45:20 | petur | "to download something that doesn't work" ? |
| 10:47:28 | amiconn | JdGordon: If the wrapper would alsp be gpl, it wouldn't work. But I guess lgpl would work... |
| 10:49:52 | linuxstb | At least in the SDK I've just downloaded, there are a lot of original Qt headers, with a "Q Public License" statement at the top of each .h They appear to date from 2004. |
| 10:50:10 | B4gder | what qt version? |
| 10:50:19 | linuxstb | 2.3.8 |
| 10:50:49 | linuxstb | AH, there's also a GPL statement... |
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| 10:51:03 | linuxstb | So they're dual-licensed. |
| 10:51:25 | B4gder | then we should be fine |
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| 10:53:10 | linuxstb | The SDK itself has an odd home-brew license - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/E2-EZX-SDK-LICENCE.txt |
| 10:54:11 | B4gder | lovely |
| 10:54:37 | B4gder | I'm not so sure they can limit what the output may be used for |
| 10:54:57 | Nico_P | I'm restoring Zagor's copyright on apps/gui/gwps-common.[ch]. Can I make it UTF8? |
| 10:54:57 | B4gder | I mean paragraph 5 |
| 10:55:14 | gevaerts | Doesn't matter, just use paragraph 4 to make a GPL version first |
| 10:55:16 | B4gder | Nico_P: yes, I think so |
| 10:55:32 | B4gder | gevaerts: haha, indeed |
| 10:55:37 | linuxstb | gevaerts: Or even BSD... |
| 10:55:41 | Nico_P | B4gder: maybe I should also make his other copyrights UTF8? |
| 10:55:48 | linuxstb | gevaerts: Or not.... |
| 10:55:58 | B4gder | Nico_P: yes, we should make them consistent |
| 10:56:12 | Nico_P | I'll do that |
| 10:56:15 | B4gder | although having Zagor |
| 10:56:25 | B4gder | 's work consistent seem a bit strange ;-) |
| 10:56:29 | linuxstb | Would viewvc.cgi need tweaking? I can't remember what encoding it uses. |
| 10:56:53 | B4gder | it might, or perhaps apache |
| 10:57:50 | linuxstb | Hmm, there seem to be a large collection of .so files in the SDK... |
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| 11:09:41 | Nico_P | viewvc.cgi uses UTF8 I think |
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| 11:13:45 | * | Nico_P ends up running iconv on the whole codebase |
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| 11:22:19 | Nico_P | hmm I don't know about things like firmware/drivers/lcd-charset-player.c... should I go all the way? |
| 11:24:50 | linuxstb | Nico_P: Maybe ask amiconn about that one... |
| 11:25:36 | linuxstb | But if we're moving all source files to utf-8, then it probably should be... |
| 11:26:16 | linuxstb | Are there any other non-ascii comments ? |
| 11:26:22 | Nico_P | I think the move to UTF8 is long overdue |
| 11:26:27 | Nico_P | yes, they are a few |
| 11:26:37 | Nico_P | s/they/there |
| 11:26:50 | Nico_P | also there is something that puzzles me in tools/creative.c |
| 11:26:51 | linuxstb | Do you have a patch? |
| 11:27:01 | Nico_P | I'll make one |
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