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#rockbox log for 2008-05-09

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00:05:35*bertrik is testing battery charging for e200
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00:11:10pixelmabertrik: what voltage does the "view battery" screen give you now when you have it attached to USB?
00:11:54bertrik4.098-4.104
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00:14:43Bagderaustriancoder: you seen that your treble/bass commit still causes trouble?
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00:15:36Bagderbut now sleep
00:15:53pixelmabertrik: seems saner than what I get after a short while - voltage suddenly rises to over 4,5V (with a non-USB build)
00:16:10pixelmaand going up...
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00:18:06jhMikeSI'd pull it right now
00:18:48bertrikpixelma: I changed the ADC channel used for sampling the battery voltage. There are two ADC channels that show almost exactly the same while not charging. One of them goes way up when the charger is inserted, the other stays mostly the same.
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00:20:04pixelmajhMikeS: I know, don't trust it myself but this has been reported on other targets (both Sansa series IIRC) so that I think that Rockbox just reads a wrong voltage somewhere
00:20:04jhMikeSone is probably the charger voltage and the other the actual battery voltage
00:20:24austriancoderBagder: nope.. i will contact an target owner to fix this issue
00:20:43austriancoderI have a new patch to review: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7138 -> last comment
00:20:45pixelmabertrik: sounds good
00:20:57bertrikADC_BVDD is the one that goes way up, ADC_RTCSUP stays more stable but does eventually go up to exactly the voltage configured in the charger
00:21:13jhMikeS4.5V to the battery will damage it or even trip the protection for good so I'm pretty sure that would have to be the charger input
00:22:07pixelmaaustriancoder: there is a thread in the forums of a m:robe100 owner who asked if others have the problem too
00:22:29bertrikThere is a very simple patch in the tracker to test this. I'm now working on a better version of the patch that also checks the end-of-charge bit in the charger.
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00:23:08austriancoderpixelma: i will check it
00:23:26bertrikMy charger settings are now V=4.1V and I=C/3 (750/3=250 mA), I think this should be safe
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00:24:07bertrikThere is a thread on the forum with some measurements that seems to suggest that the OF is actually much more aggressive with charge current and charge voltage
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00:24:47jhMikeSactually, I have a proper lithium ion chargin algorthm I found from panasonic - how to perform each stage and I plan on implementing that on the S
00:26:34bertrikI'm using the rockbox "CHARGING_MONITOR" charging configuration, which means mostly hardware controlled with software monitoring of the progress IIUC
00:27:09LambdaCalculus3I'm adding some extra bits of functionality to disktidy. I'll post a patch once I'm done.
00:27:23bertrikonce the charger indicates "end-of-charge" I disable the charger. To charge again, the sansa needs to be powercycled, is that a big problem?
00:27:31austriancoderpixelma: do you have the link by hand?
00:27:59*bertrik is waiting for the charger to indicate end-of-charge to test some code ....
00:28:17pixelmaaustriancoder: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=16719.msg124406#msg124406
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00:29:49jhMikeSgigabeat S has a current sense for charging so that algorithm really isn't sufficient for it since you can monitor during the constant voltage phase and stop at 10% of capacity
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00:31:41bertrikjhMikeS: what end voltage would you use?
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00:33:40jhMikeS4.2V normally
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00:36:25austriancoderdo i need something special to use DEBUGF like for LOGF?
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00:40:28*LambdaCalculus37 has now added "Desktop.ini" files from Windows to disktidy
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00:42:58bertrikI think disktidy can be made simpler and more elegant than it currently is, for example using a table of files to delete rather than writing it out in code
00:43:28LambdaCalculus37bertrik: There's a patch in Flyspray for that.
00:44:02LambdaCalculus37FS #8637
00:44:44LambdaCalculus37But the problem is that it ended up turning into a viewer-style plugin.
00:47:35*LambdaCalculus37 sees all green with disktidy
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00:47:50bertrikhmm, feature creep?
00:50:04LambdaCalculus37bertrik: I'm going to try to sync the original version of FS #8637 to the current SVN.
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01:00:29*LambdaCalculus37 goes to have some dinner
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01:08:12DerPapstif you don't want the viewer style start with version 5.1 or modify JdGordon's version
01:08:27*DerPapst wonders if JdGordon forgot about disktidy....
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01:11:03austriancoderFS #7138 last comment.. please review patch
01:12:42LambdaCalculus37FS #8975... small disktidy patch with manual update.
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01:18:08*LambdaCalculus37 goes back to poke around at FS #8637
01:22:21LambdaCalculus37Hmmm...
01:22:55LambdaCalculus37DerPapst: You know what? I think v5.1 of FS #8637 is a much more logical choice.
01:23:39LambdaCalculus37Honestly, adding files and folders one or two at a time is rather tedious and is starting to bloat the code.
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01:26:47DerPapstmaybe... but i think rockbox' config parser should be used for that
01:27:47LambdaCalculus37DerPapst: Exactly.
01:28:12LambdaCalculus37It allows for far more flexibility than my creeping stuff in can.
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01:29:57amiconnYay :D
01:30:11amiconnDisk: 29.8GB Free: 29.5GB
01:30:39*amiconn now only needs to put everything back together properly
01:30:53LambdaCalculus37amiconn: What were you just doing?
01:31:14amiconniPod mini G2 CF mod
01:31:15pixelmaMini CF mod
01:31:21*pixelma too slow
01:32:15markunamiconn: how much did the adapter and the memory cost?
01:32:25amiconnNo adapter necessary...
01:32:33markunnice
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01:32:55amiconnThe card (32GB Trancend) was 131EUR (amazon.de marketplace, including shipment)
01:32:59LambdaCalculus37amiconn: Nice!
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01:33:55*pixelma curses LaTeX...
01:34:17amiconnWriting small blocks is somewhat slow, but that's expected
01:34:37amiconnFor large blocks, the card is faster than the old microdrive
01:35:18amiconn(interestingly it's twice as fast for writing compared to reading 1MB blocks)
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01:37:20*LambdaCalculus37 curses LaTeX along with pixelma
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01:39:32*LambdaCalculus37 tries hard to get the Gigabeat S manual together but is still missing some key pieces
01:41:21DerPapstamiconn: does the OF still work?
01:43:06*pixelma just wanted to add missing key pad macros (and fix a wrong spelling) to the lamp.tex button table
01:44:28pixelmathis makes the "quit" button show up correctly but then the "toggle colours" line just vanishes in all colour target manuals even those which are not affected by my 2-liner. It builds correctly though
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01:46:56pixelmaI did not change anything in the \opt{lcd_color}{} part
01:47:37LambdaCalculus37pixelma: Want to take a look at this? http://pastebin.com/m723913b4
01:47:44LambdaCalculus37Tell me how it looks so far.
01:48:18jmworxAny audiophiles in here who would like to test a next-gen Xiph audio codec?
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01:49:49pixelmaLambdaCalculus37: first reaction "this reminds me of the still missing 'describe player for the blind' paragraph in the c200 manual - Febs started and posted a patch to the tracker but didn't finish...
01:50:07pixelmacool you also took care of this for the beast
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01:54:40amiconnwow
01:55:05*amiconn actually needed to squeeze some material between the CF card and the back of the case
01:55:48amiconnOtherwise the wheel would be loose, and more importantly, the connector would not fit into the hole of the bottom cover
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01:57:34amiconnEmergency diskmode is workind
01:57:37amiconn*working
01:58:50amiconnOF is also working as far as I can tell
01:59:05amiconnAlso reports proper capacity
01:59:50LambdaCalculus37pixelma: What? You're kidding! What's the patch?
02:00
02:01:33DerPapstamiconn: coolio. apple did a good job at this.
02:02:11LambdaCalculus37amiconn: Yeah, I heard about that. The original mod described using a business card folded once as padding.
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02:02:53*amiconn also used some folded cardboard
02:03:18pixelmaLambdaCalculus37: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8658 , just realised that this is in a state I *might* be able to work on because it already explains the thing I had trouble with (the button "square (?)" or so) quite well
02:05:47pixelmawas unable (as a non-native speaker) to describe that in a short but accurate way
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02:07:51LambdaCalculus37pixelma: Yes, it's described very well.
02:08:13LambdaCalculus37This still needs a *lot* of work, but it's a start: http://pastebin.com/m4923cc89
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02:09:33B1b3rhi , is there a way to get some games on my sansa e250 v2 ? thx
02:09:57LambdaCalculus37No, there isn't. Rockbox doesn't work on the v2 Sansas.
02:10:17B1b3roh :/
02:10:42B1b3r:´/
02:11:17B1b3rso the only thing on my sansa i can upgrade is the firmware ? :D
02:11:23Nico_PjhMikeS: ping
02:11:52advcomp2019B1b3r, if you want rockbox, you need a v1 not a v2
02:11:53LambdaCalculus37And the capacity.
02:12:20B1b3ryeh looks like
02:12:56pixelmaLambdaCalculus37: nice, the only thing that worries me a bit (and made me check) is that gigabeatf and gigabeats look so similar because the only difference is the last letter after a few more (m5, x5 is better manageable) - had to look twice.
02:13:28LambdaCalculus37pixelma: It still needs a lot of work, though. I especially have to change the keymap to the S keymap.
02:13:35B1b3ris there a rockbox port in work for v2´s ?
02:13:53*amiconn votes for renaming gigabeats to gigabeast ;)
02:14:08*LambdaCalculus37 seconds that vote ;)
02:14:21*DerPapst thirds it :-)
02:14:32pixelmamaybe that makes it easier to distinguish... :)
02:14:38amiconnyup
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02:15:47LambdaCalculus37Anyone have any objections to renaming the tags in the Gigabeat S manual from gigabeats to gigabeast?
02:18:52pixelmaI think you can replace them easily, no matter what you call them now if used consistently...
02:20:06*Llorean thinks we should keep humor out of the tag naming, just to be "safe"
02:21:22DerPapstwho cares? it's just the manual contributors anyway and if it helps them....
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02:26:47Nico_Pamiconn: does r17426 mean FS #8260 is fixed?
02:27:58amiconnuhm, didn't even know there was a flyspray report
02:28:18amiconnThe original report sounds exactly like what I was experiencing, and it's fixed now
02:28:56Nico_Pamiconn: it was also traced to r15444, which is when you added the sleep(HZ/50)
02:29:06Nico_PI'll close it as fixed
02:29:29amiconnMore importantly, it was when I added disk poweroff for PP502x targets
02:29:37Nico_Pyes
02:29:38amiconn(ipods, actually)
02:29:50Nico_PI couldn't remember the "name" of the feature :)
02:30:15amiconnThe HZ/50 were just a safety measure which turned out to be not safe enough
02:30:23Nico_PI was unsure about whether it fixed the issue reported in FS #8260 because you didn't mention the 5.5G in your commit
02:30:37Nico_Pdid you speak with jhMikeS about it?
02:31:05amiconnSome comments seem to be unrelated though (e.g. the first one - sansa e280 isn't hdd based)
02:31:14LambdaCalculus37Llorean: Would gigbeat-s be ok?
02:31:51amiconnNico_P: You could of course test on G5.5, with th especial kludge disabled, although I doubt that it's the same problem
02:32:08amiconnThe mini even showed this dropout which the kludge enabled
02:33:14*amiconn still doesn't understand why he didn't notice it earlier
02:33:20Nico_PI never had that problem on the 5.5G, but IIRC GodEater had it. I will try but I'm almost sure the issue is unrelated, as you said
02:33:35LambdaCalculus37Nico_P: What problem was this?
02:33:39LambdaCalculus37Just curious.
02:34:02Nico_PLambdaCalculus37: FS #8260, audio dropouts
02:34:41LambdaCalculus37Nico_P: Ahh.
02:35:13amiconnThe strange thing is that my other PP502x target (H10, PP5020) was totally unaffected. It might be a PP5022 specific bug
02:36:00amiconnThen it would also apply to G5 and G5.5
02:36:14LambdaCalculus37Yep.
02:36:46pixelmaLambdaCalculus37: if I was you I would probably stick to "gigabeats" for now because that's what you're used to. We can still decide on a rename later, as I said if it's used consistently you could replace it quite easily I guess
02:37:24LambdaCalculus37pixelma: "gigabeats" it is.
02:37:29Nico_Pamiconn: it was definitely reported on the 5.5G at leasr
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02:37:45*LambdaCalculus37 fixes up all instances of "gigabeast" on the manual
02:37:55Nico_Pamiconn: I think you're going to have a few more fans for fixing that one :)
02:37:56*pixelma sleeps
02:38:04DerPapstgood night :-)
02:38:09amiconnWe'll see
02:38:09LambdaCalculus37Good night!
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02:40:21LambdaCalculus37Nico_P: Some Gigabeast manual work; can you check the highlighted spot and tell me if the buttons sound right? http://pastebin.com/db562430
02:41:37Nico_Pthe names sound right, yeah
02:43:06LambdaCalculus37Now I've got to change all of the keymaps from the F keys to the S keys.
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02:48:56*LambdaCalculus37 is going to go relax for a while
02:49:24voltagexnew H340 turned up today!!!
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03:04:07RomanianHiya all
03:04:12RomanianAnyone here have the Zune?
03:04:22RoC_MasterMindI can't seem to get rockbox to play any videos.
03:04:43RoC_MasterMindI am transcoding with vlc, like 512kb mpeg2 PS, I tried both audio as mpeg audio and mp3 128k.
03:05:14RoC_MasterMindOne it just shows a black screen, the other it shows an initial screen but nothing after that, then after that it fills with colored static and is frozen
03:05:20RomanianRoC_MasterMind:
03:05:23Romaniandownload WinFF
03:06:27RoC_MasterMindmy friend has a zune
03:06:27RomanianRoC_MasterMind: Which music player do you have?
03:06:33RoC_MasterMindtoshiba gigabeat f40
03:06:35RomanianAnd what is your operating system?
03:06:44RoC_MasterMindsame price as ipod 4th gen but color screen and 2x bigger hard drive
03:06:53RoC_MasterMindrockbox is on the gigabeat, my friends zune is original OS
03:07:01RomanianI mean your computer
03:07:07RoC_MasterMindUbuntu 7.10.
03:07:15Romanianah, nice :)
03:07:24Romanianhttp://winff.googlecode.com/files/winff-0.291-i386.deb
03:07:26Romaniandownload that
03:07:36Romanianand then replace the presets.xml list with....
03:07:45RoC_MasterMindthey removed xmms in 8.04 and audacity wastes playlist space with whitespace and has lag
03:07:52LloreanRomanian: Why recommend an outdated version?
03:07:58Llorean0.41 comes with Rockbox presets built in.
03:08:06RoC_MasterMindI think i might be able to install it from my own repo, but I'll sitck with 7.10 for now on my dekstop
03:08:11RoC_MasterMindI got hte latest version installing right now of winff
03:08:22RomanianLlorean: Does it? I wasn't aware.
03:08:28LloreanRoC_MasterMind: xmms /audacity /etc is irrelevant here.
03:08:41RoC_MasterMindduh
03:08:49RomanianI've been away from RockBox/computers for a while
03:08:53LloreanRoC_MasterMind: My point is, this is an on-topic channel.
03:09:04RoC_MasterMindAhh...it wasn't for a minute there.
03:09:21RomanianLlorean: Do I know you from a different IRC channel?
03:09:25LloreanNo.
03:09:33RomanianOkay.
03:11:43RoC_MasterMinddang...winff looks cool but ffmpeg gives me error when I goto convert: http://pastebin.ca/1012249
03:12:22LloreanRoC_MasterMind: This is most likely because the ubuntu version of it comes without an MP3 encoder.
03:12:41RoC_MasterMindI wonder what that package is
03:12:50RomanianRoC_MasterMind: sudo apt-get install lame
03:12:56LloreanThat won't fix the problem.
03:12:57Romanianthat's the MP3 encoder
03:13:06Lloreanffmpeg has to be compiled with it in.
03:13:06Romanianbut I don't know if it'll work with WinFF
03:13:15RoC_MasterMindlame is already installed
03:13:28RoC_MasterMindhmm
03:13:30RoC_MasterMindthat's LAME
03:13:30LloreanYou'll need to compile your own build of ffmpeg to get mp3 support in it.
03:14:25RoC_MasterMindif I knew the right options I'm sure VLC could do it
03:14:44RoC_MasterMindWHat's wrong with 512kb mpeg2 PS, I tried both audio as mpeg audio and mp3 128k.
03:14:46LloreanWell the PluginMpegplayer wiki page tells the requirements for a file to play in Rockbox.
03:14:51RoC_MasterMindyeah yeah
03:14:55RoC_MasterMindI've tried it like four times
03:15:06RomanianLlorean: do you know anything about the A3/
03:15:32LloreanRoC_MasterMind: There's a sample command line for VLC even, are you using that?
03:15:36LloreanRomanian: No.
03:15:41RoC_MasterMindlet me find that
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03:50:17yeal`hi
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03:50:38yeal`what program do you guys use to convert flv/youtube to mpeg 4 video?
03:51:11Hillshumstay on topic please
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03:53:25OverandI have a build from mid to late 2007 running on my iPod 5g, 60G - will I need to update the bootloader or anything weird?
03:53:28yeal`this is for ipod
03:53:31OverandI've updated the bootloader once.
03:53:36Lloreanyeal`: Rockbox does not play mpeg 4.
03:53:55LloreanOverand: You shouldn't need to, I think.
03:54:11yeal`rockbox has mpeg playback
03:54:23Lloreanmpeg-1 and mpeg-2.
03:54:45OverandLlorean: I've been holding off on updating because this version has been nearly flawless, and i'd gone to builds before that weren't as stable
03:54:57Overandif i don't need to make a bootloader change i may just back up the old install though
03:55:06LloreanBacking up the old install is never a bad idea.
03:55:26Overandi remember there was a change that required a booloader update
03:55:36Overandi think it was when another core got enabled or somesuch
03:55:40LloreanYes.
03:56:00LloreanThe bootloader for that dates to early '07, if I recall.
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03:56:10Overandprobably
03:56:11Overandheh
03:56:46yeal`what program do you guys use to convert flv/youtube to mpeg 2 video?
03:57:10Lloreanyeal`: the PluginMpegplayer page in the wiki suggests several ones that work really well.
03:58:38Overandit has mpeg2 support now?
03:58:50LloreanOverand: The video player has always been mpeg-1/2
03:58:54Overandor did it always - ithought it only did 1
03:58:55Overandweird
03:59:16LloreanPeople often misrepresent it. There's a real problem with people spreading bad information, unfortunately. They just don't read the documentation.
03:59:36OverandI assume that the 'tv-out' chip han't been figuredo ut yet
03:59:57yeal`do all of you use an ipod for rockbox?
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04:00:00LloreanVery little is done with the specialty hardware in the iPod 5G in Rockbox. It's really currently the worst target to play video on, really.
04:00:17OverandLlorean: Yeah - but I'm not hugely interested in it for video
04:00:23*Overand has an eeepc
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04:00:39OverandI carry that nearly everywhere I carry my iPod that would be a place i'd potentially want video
04:00:43yeal`do you use linux or windows on your eeepc
04:00:48Overandyeal`: xubuntu
04:00:49scorcheyeal`: offtopic..
04:00:53Overandg'point
04:01:03Overandyeal`: see topic, join
04:01:26yeal`what is the current topic?
04:01:42Lloreanyeal`: Rockbox.
04:01:44yeal`oh
04:01:48yeal`we have a fixed topic now?
04:01:55LloreanThere's always been a fixed topic in here.
04:02:01LloreanPlease read the IrcGuidelines page in the wiki.
04:02:21yeal`yeah, like you were here when we started this channel
04:02:36scorche“we”?
04:02:41yeal`?
04:02:50JdGordonholy crap! green table!
04:03:04*JdGordon goes to work fixing that
04:03:05LloreanJdGordon: Indeed, and it's stayed that way for a little while now. Be Careful.
04:04:24yeal`what aspect ratio should i use 16:9 or 4:3 ?
04:04:30yeal`for the ipod
04:04:35yeal`so it is widescreen and the same
04:04:53LloreanYou use the aspect ratio of the original video.
04:05:06LloreanWidescreen is usually 16:9
04:05:08yeal`?
04:05:34yeal`i think it is 320 by 240
04:05:39Llorean"?" tells me very little about what part of the sentence confused you. Since I think it contains enough information, I don't know how to restate it without you being more explicit as to which part gave you problem.
04:06:08yeal`how do i find asepect ratio of flv files
04:06:16Llorean320x240 is 4:3, you'll notice that 320/4 = 240/3
04:06:40yeal`oh
04:06:51yeal`so 16:9 is 1600/920 or something
04:06:52yeal`?
04:06:58LloreanNo.
04:07:15Llorean16:9 is any video where width/16 = height/9.
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04:12:13saratogahmm the Gigabeast CPU "book" is almot 2400 pages long
04:13:18LloreanAt least it ought to be useful.
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04:28:32yeal`does rockbox or ipod like .mpg files or .avi files more?
04:29:36cool_walking_Rockbox only supports MPEG1/2 - see http://rockbox.org/wiki/PluginMpegplayer
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04:31:17yeal`oh
04:31:21yeal`how is ipod os different
04:31:29yeal`does it like .avi or .mpg more?
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04:31:46aliask...
04:31:54cool_walking_I was going to say that...
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05:07:11alienbiker99hmm i m trying to build after this latest S commit, but i am getting multiple warnings regarding the LANG_BRIGHTNESS
05:09:37aliaskalienbiker99: make clean then make
05:09:43alienbiker99ok
05:13:23alienbiker99thanks, that worked
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05:50:07HiddenShadowhi, i was wondering how i could delete my database and rebuild it, or if i just go to init. now, will that rebuild it for me?
05:56:09HiddenShadownever mind i got it...im still confused though since it says its found more than 5000+ entries...i only have around 3000 sounds, or does the 5000+ entries mean something else? (tags etc, etc.)
05:56:19HiddenShadow3000 songs*
05:57:37saratogai think that usually means you have songs on the disk you don't know about
05:58:07HiddenShadowweird...cuz i deleted the songs itunes had on there (from ipod_control/music)
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06:00:36HiddenShadowanyways whatever, im just happy i dont have to touch itunes, even if rockbox gives me lower battery life..but then again i might have to use it for videos/photos because its faster :P
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06:08:19AdRock420????. My Sansa e260 just fully crapped out on me after only 3 months. I love rockbox to death and was wondering out of the mp3 player builds, which is my best bet for reliability and quality when using rockbox? I'm done with sansa and thier crap hardware. Any suggestions
06:08:53AdRock420As far as which mp3 player to get that will be the best to use with rockbox software
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06:22:06HiddenShadowwow...someones impatient.
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