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#rockbox log for 2008-05-12

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00:25:01vertic23hello
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00:43:55UNHchab1hey guys, I'm running rockbox on a Sansa e200, and mpeg videos don't show up in the file browser
00:44:20UNHchab1i used the automated installer, but i was under the impression that the MPEGplayer plugin got installed on my sansa
00:44:26n1sUNHchab1: check the file view setting
00:44:46n1seasily accessible from the quickscreen
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00:46:37UNHchab1ahh, that's it, i had it set to only show playlists
00:46:40UNHchab1thank you
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01:00:02MTeeHello
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01:05:37peturhi
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01:07:43RBPFChi all
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01:09:08RBPFCis it possible to modify my mp3 player to act as an external soundcard?
01:09:36peturno
01:09:41RBPFCwhy not
01:09:50peturwe almost had a gsoc student to write it but he went with another project
01:09:55RBPFCif i can move data to it i should be able to stream
01:10:10BigBambiIt is possible with some devices I thought
01:10:18BigBambiBut Rockbox can't do it at present
01:10:23RBPFCi know
01:10:32gevaertsIn principle it's possible, but someone has to write the code
01:10:36RBPFCdoes anyone know the binary architecture of Philips SA1210
01:10:48RBPFCit has some .sb files
01:10:53RBPFCand resource sections
01:11:12BigBambiRBPFC: Are you looking to port rockbox to it?
01:11:20RBPFCyes and no
01:11:32BigBambiif no, this is #rockbox...
01:11:39RBPFCi know
01:11:48RBPFCyes: Im planning to port it
01:11:52RBPFCno: a modified version
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01:12:00BigBambimodified how?
01:12:09RBPFConce i know how my mp3 player works
01:12:13RBPFCi want to add custom features
01:12:29BigBambier, yes, I gathered thT FROM MODIFIED
01:12:33BigBambioops :)
01:12:44BigBambiI meant which modified features?
01:12:55RBPFCnot sure yet
01:13:06RBPFCi was not thinking about that yet
01:13:11RBPFCfirst i need to get it run i guess :)
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01:13:31Nico_PjhMikeS: here?
01:13:48RBPFCbut im unable to figure out what kind of binary file my mp3 player uses
01:13:50BigBambiOK, well check out www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPorts, and have a look in the New Ports forum in the wiki (and on the wiki) to see if anyone has done any ground work
01:14:04BigBambiRBPFC: do you know the architecture?
01:14:20RBPFCnop
01:14:37BigBambiI'd guess googling is an option, or you may have to open it up and look
01:15:13RBPFCi used google
01:15:18RBPFCand IDA is not helpful either
01:15:34RBPFCit has its very own architecture
01:15:37BigBambiwell, if no-one has already done it I guess you will need to open it and look at the chips
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01:17:05RBPFCyeh but its not up to the chip how they process code
01:17:30BigBambieh?
01:17:48BigBambiyou need to know the architecture for a start
01:17:56BigBambiarm? coldfire? telechips? etc
01:19:08RBPFCfirst i need to figure out howto open that ass
01:19:26RBPFCit doesnt seem to have any standart screws
01:19:27RBPFC:D
01:21:38MTeewhat books are good to start reading embedded systems ?
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01:23:27BigBambiIncidentally, I realise that telechips isn't an 'architecture'
01:24:05MTeeBibBambi : do you know good books to start with in embedded systems ?
01:24:36MTee*BigBambi :)
01:24:44BigBambisorry, no :(
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01:25:08MTeeemm .. how did you learn it? :)
01:25:14BigBambiI didn't
01:25:17*BigBambi is no dev
01:26:04MTeeemm .. sorry, I just supposed that you were from your talk with RBPFC
01:26:19MTeethanks anyways
01:26:44BigBambihehe :) I help out with support, and I can do simple patching and that, but for the in depth low level stuff, not guilty!
01:26:57MTee:D
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01:28:11BigBambiMTee: Most core devs are European, and it is 01.30 here, so you may have more luck European daytime
01:28:22chrisjs169is it possible for the sansa to fail loading the i2c but still not go into pre-boot mode?
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01:30:17MTeeBigBambi : thanks, didn't notice that. I thought it's still earlier there ... anyways it's now 2.30 in here :)
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01:34:41chrisjs169i was doing some testing and stuck an invalid copy of the i2c on the recovery mode partition
01:36:13*MTee is going to zZzZzZ
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01:37:05chrisjs169from what i've always known and been told, it should go into preboot mode if it has any problems reading the i2c, correct?
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01:51:39RBPFCi destroyed my screen of my mp3 player
01:51:40RBPFC:(
01:52:26chrisjs169i seem to have destroyed my mp3 player :(
01:52:33RBPFCmine still work
01:52:33RBPFC:D
01:53:38chrisjs169i can't figure out why mine doesn't
01:53:55chrisjs169it's supposed to go into preboot mode when it fails, but it isn't
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01:55:06asda653Despondent rockboxer here :[
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01:57:20FewlioAnyone know how I can reboot a sansa that crashed as a result of installing rockbox?
01:57:30Fewliowent unresponsive after I plugged it back into USB
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01:59:08asda653my computer is not recognizing my perfectly-working nano, but the nano recognizes it. iTunes says the nano is corrupt. help anyone?
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02:01:55Fewliohttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8272 I seem to have ran into this
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02:07:17RBPFCphilips sa1210 got a sigmatel chip
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02:15:16RBPFCBigBambi
02:15:17RBPFCstill there?
02:15:37Fewliohttp://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0511081900pn5.jpg
02:16:01RBPFClol
02:16:22Fewlioyeah
02:16:24Fewliothanks rockbox
02:16:40Fewliothat's what happened when I plugged the USB back in
02:17:36RBPFCshit happens
02:17:45Fewlioyeah and nobody knows how to reboot it
02:17:55RBPFCdo the same over
02:18:00Fewliothe what
02:18:10RBPFCreinstall it
02:18:14RBPFCdo all the steps over
02:18:22Fewliowell the thing is
02:18:24FewlioI need to reboot it
02:18:27FewlioI can't
02:18:57FewlioI can't find any useful info from sansa other than "push the button"
02:19:01Fewlioand rockbox says the same thing
02:19:05Fewliobut the buttons don't work :V
02:19:29RBPFC..
02:19:44Fewliobecause it's crashed
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02:26:35Fewlioseems like the only thing that's gonna work is removing the battery
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02:31:50soapHow long have you held the power button down, Fewlio ?
02:31:55Fewlioa minute
02:31:59soapliterally?
02:32:01Fewlioyes
02:32:04FewlioI watched a clock
02:32:29soapI have not experienced a crash of my 250 which can not be rebooted from with the long press of the power button.
02:32:29Fewliobecause someone told me 20 seconds so I said "yeah I tried that, I'll try a minute just to be sure I'm not an idiot"
02:32:46soapWhat version of Rockbox were you using?
02:32:50Fewlionewest
02:32:58Fewlioinstalled it half an hour ago
02:33:03vertic23what can I do if the HDD won't format (stopps at a certain point)
02:34:42Fewlioused rbutilqt-v1.0.5.zip
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02:35:21Fewliooh, it just turned itself off
02:35:27Fewliobattery died haha
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02:40:33vertic23hmm anybody got a suggestion what to do? my formatting won't proceed
02:41:11Fewliorun checkdisk
02:41:31Fewlionew or old drive?
02:41:34vertic23older
02:41:43Fewliomight be toast
02:41:55vertic23that's why I am formatting...
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02:42:08vertic23thought maybe that will fix the read/write timeouts
02:42:23Fewliono I mean actual toast
02:42:57vertic23hm? don't make fun (I just broke my mp3 player ^^)
02:43:16FewlioI mean spread some butter on that because it's not gonna save your data anymore
02:43:28vertic23:/
02:43:29Fewliowhat're you using to format it?
02:43:33vertic23windows
02:43:41vertic23thought it'd be the easiest way
02:43:52vertic23even though if I had the feeling that it wouldnot work
02:44:08Fewliopartition magic might do a better job
02:44:09Fewlio"might"
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02:44:25FewlioI just had a drive die in me in the same way not too long ago
02:44:37Fewliowould go about half way and then just freeze
02:45:09vertic23hmm, I got the X5V - should I buy a new one then? guess will be about 50 bucks for a new one
02:45:38Fewlioyou might be able to replace the drive if it's really busted
02:45:58Fewliochance that it's windows just failing, which it doesn't seem to do much in simple tasks like formatting a drive
02:46:31FewlioI suggest finding a second opinion
02:47:37vertic23true, first I'm trying another tool
02:47:50Fewliogood idea
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03:00:46vertic23hmm, chckdsk fails with E/A timeout
03:00:53vertic23@3% sucks
03:01:04vertic23I knew it would end here
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03:14:10Fewliobefore you buy a new one, look into replacing the drive, might be cheap might cost the same
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03:39:19vertic23hmm, seems like I did it...
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03:39:55Fewlioyou fixed it?
03:40:04vertic23now I got a fresh HDD - for 'installing' rockbox, I just need to copy a new build on it
03:40:33vertic23I think - I deleted the partition - created a new one with acronis disk director...
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03:41:14vertic23sorry left out the ?
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03:44:40vertic23Fewlio: I have the iAUDIO X5 not disconnected - rebooted - so there is still rockbox booted - should I reboot?
03:45:06FewlioI'm not sure I joined here for rockbox support also
03:45:17vertic23I see hehe
03:45:20Fewliohttp://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0511081900yb7.jpg
03:45:29Fewlioit fixed itself by running out of batteries
03:46:04__Dragon__i would like to know if i can keep rockbox from restrating and going into the origial ipod software when i plug it into the usb
03:46:13__Dragon__original
03:46:37vertic23search for dualboot
03:46:48vertic23doesnot look that good, Fewlio
03:47:09Fewlioit did that when I plugged the USB in with the sansa on
03:47:24Fewliowhich I found was an older bug apparently
03:48:02soap__Dragon__, A: the __ before your name is annoying. B: Rockbox does not have a USB mode of its own. If you want disk access you must be in Apple firmware of one sort or another. If you want to simply charge, press "Menu" while inserting the USB plug.
03:48:41__Dragon__ok
03:48:44vertic23heh, it booted with the new build
03:48:56vertic23love ya all :D :***
03:49:24vertic23guess I keep the new theme hehe
03:50:29*__Dragon__ playing: "Insane Clown Posse - Growing Again" [256kbps][44kHz][Stereo]
03:50:29vertic23speed could be higher though, let's see if I keep those writetimeouts
03:51:54soap__Dragon__, please, no more now playing spam. http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines
03:52:11__Dragon__i hit the wrong button
03:52:42vertic23soap: do you think there is a connection between a dying HDD and slow transferspeeds (I get now 1,2 mb/s)
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03:53:04vertic23had (sometimes) speeds >2-3 MB/s
03:53:07JdGordon|unithose sort of speeds are usb 1.1 anyway arnt they?
03:53:10soappossibly, failed reads and or writes would slow transfers down.
03:53:12JdGordon|unii.e maybe not a dying disk
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03:53:36vertic23hmm, well how can I see which USB mode is used?
03:53:58chrisjs169JdGordon|uni, you have an e200, right?
03:54:01vertic23I'm using the front USB connector - though I don't think my motherboard got 1.1 ^^
03:54:14JdGordon|unichrisjs169: yes
03:55:12chrisjs169JdGordon|uni, i managed to put a corrupt i2c on my sansa's recovery mode drive, and broke it. I've used e200tool dozens of times, but for some reason this time it doesn't seem to enter preboot mode
03:55:40chrisjs169e200tool init doesn't pick it up, and lsusb doesn't show it as a portalplayer device
03:56:28chrisjs169kugel and I are talking on MSN, and can't figure out why it's not entering preboot mode
03:56:50LloreanWhy were you putting an i2c rom on it in the first place?
03:56:54LloreanWhat did you do that necessitated this?
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03:57:26chrisjs169being an idiot and testing things
03:57:38LloreanThat's kinda vague though.
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03:58:34chrisjs169i'm not really asking for a howto on fixing it, (./e200tool i2cprogram <file>) I'm just asking how it's possible for it to not enter manufacturing nor preboot mode
03:59:03LloreanAnd I'm trying to figure out the steps that led up to it refusing to boot, because sometimes a cause is more than "just the last thing that happened"
03:59:18chrisjs169Oh, ok
04:00
04:00:21LloreanThough you might want to try to catch gevaerts around. He'd be asleep right now, I'd imagine, but if you can catch him, I think he has the most experience causing damage to a Sansa (notably a c200 though) and consequently recovering it.
04:00:53chrisjs169I was mostly messing with e200tool's recovery for when the bootloader fails (haven't had much to do today) and one of the times i was in recovery mode I had placed a corrupt I2c on it. The Sansa froze writing the boot rom, and after a hard shutdown, it stopped working
04:02:41chrisjs169Looks like gevearts usually gets off around 7:30 my time (2.5 hours ago)
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04:04:01joecoolusing a sansa e200 on rockbox, is it possible to get it to charge on usb like ipod does
04:04:10joecoolby holding menu or something
04:04:13LloreanHonestly though, if you can't get it into any sort of mode where your PC can detect it as a USB device, I can't imagine there will be much you can do without hardware intervention.
04:04:17Lloreanjoecool: Hold the center button.
04:04:40joecoolthanks
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04:06:12chrisjs169Llorean, That's kind of what I figured, but I'm just confused as I thought that the Sansa can't be bricked without hardware modification, as it will always go to Preboot or Manufacturing mode if there's a problemn
04:06:17joecoolone other thing
04:06:26joecoolwhat is this study mode
04:07:09chrisjs169I've also (yay, more warranty voiding) tried removing the daughterboard just to make sure it can't try to execute any startup code, to force it into preboot mode, but without any luck
04:07:36kugeljoecool: With the mode enabled, you don't skip the entire track if you press |<< or >>|, but rather jump back/forward lets say 5 minutes
04:07:45kugelthe time can be specified in the settings afaik
04:08:55joecoolhrm.. the dsp really sucks in the sansa compared to ipod :(
04:09:02joecoolglad i did not buy
04:09:02kugelchrisjs169: I'm not entirely sure, but I think you should be even able to get into menu mode without the daughterboard
04:09:20Lloreanjoecool: "DSP" means "digital signal processing", and would be affects applied mostly by the software, not hardware relevant...
04:09:26kugelwhich means, removing it does nothing
04:09:33joecooler
04:09:34chrisjs169kugel, AFAIK, manu mode requires a working i2c, which is stored in the daughterboard
04:09:35joecoolDAC
04:09:51kugelchrisjs169: again, I'm not sure
04:10:02joecoolin case noone in here saw me a day ago... that was 2 days of sleep deprivation, this is day 3 now
04:10:11joecooler night now... it all feels the same after awhile
04:10:29chrisjs169which is why i was able to get into preboot after shorting the daughterboard on my last sansa
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04:16:34vertic23how much does the iAudio M3 cost? it is not yet available here in germany
04:17:08vertic23not yet.. or not anymore? how old is that one?
04:17:16scorche|shnot anymore
04:17:34vertic23I see
04:19:27kugelvertic23: most of the rockbox targets aren't available anymore. Except on ebay of course
04:19:29vertic23hmm, I learned now that only very few players are still in active "production" - selling
04:19:45vertic23yeah, hmm sad
04:20:25vertic23so I go and look for which one the rockbox will be available in the future, heh? :D
04:20:51kugelvertic23: cowon d2 seems promising
04:21:08kugelthat's the only player which I know being still available
04:21:23LloreanI wouldn't recommend the d2 to someone who seems to be looking for an HD based player.
04:21:27kugelbut, this one is pretty much the opposite of the M3
04:21:47LloreanPerhaps the Gigabeat S. More recently unavailable, so you can often find them used or refurbished.
04:21:49vertic23Llorean: I am looking for a player for my girlfriend
04:22:07vertic23so ...the player doesnot be that ...expensive hehehe
04:22:13vertic23*shouldnot
04:22:29Lloreanvertic23: Well, you'll more or less just have to search the internet.
04:22:30kugelvertic23: Then I#d recomment ebay
04:22:44LloreanD2 is probably not your best bet, since it's impossible to predict when it'll be really usable
04:23:15vertic23I did already, Llorean: and I found the cowon iaudio 7 (which is with 110$ affordable)
04:23:23vertic234 GB too - but HDD based
04:23:42kugelbesides, if he wants an M3, which has no display, a D2 which pretty much only consists of a display (a touchscreen), I doubt the D2 is the one he searches for
04:23:45LloreanWell, if you're just discussing players not running Rockbox, it doesn't really belong here.
04:24:19vertic23well... yeah, thanks for the info ;)
04:24:20advcomp2019vertic23, the iaudio 7 is flash based but it is getting off topic
04:26:11vertic23thanks
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04:32:40vertic23can somebody tell me if it's now possible to make a scrolling text when there is a character in the first place?
04:35:02JdGordon|uni?
04:36:02vertic23zezayer.cfg <-- I think in this skin it was not possible to let the text scroll (which was annoying when you had long titles...)
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04:42:12vertic23hmm iriver h120 is available again, cool
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04:48:50*JdGordon|uni 's sansa seems to be FUBAR :'(
04:49:14LloreanWhat'd you do to yours?
04:49:38JdGordon|uninothing, screen doesnt want to turn on!
04:49:55LloreanEven when dual booting?
04:49:57JdGordon|univolume control isnt working either
04:50:15JdGordon|unina, its fine if i reboot it..
04:50:22*JdGordon|uni should have said rockbox was playing up :p
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04:51:25JdGordon|unihmm... the sd chip isnt in.. I wonder if its tag/dir chache being naughty
04:51:37JdGordon|unigrr.. it just crashed
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05:07:12chrisjs169JdGordon|uni, do you know if the i2c is stored somewhere on the daughterboard, or should I wait for Bagder or gevaerts tomorrow?
05:07:47JdGordon|unino idea
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05:10:44chrisjs169ok, i'll wait till tomorrow
05:10:50*chrisjs169 tired anyways
05:22:30vertic23OK, here I go again - after ~6 GB of data copied to my iAudio X5V he says "Disk is full" (so 12-13GB / 18 GB available)
05:22:50vertic23does that mean my HDD is about to die?
05:22:51scorche|shhave you run a disk check?
05:22:58vertic23well, fresh formated
05:23:35vertic23does checkdisk other stuff? (I deleted the partition, created a new one / quickformated with FAT32)
05:24:09vertic23what would you recommend as disk check tool?
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05:27:29vertic23now I have difficulties in editing other files I had transfered (changing the ID3 tag with a taggingtool - takes [still] minuted to edit)
05:27:44vertic23now I have data loss @ windows in writing :/
05:28:16scorche|shif you are using windows, just run their included checking utility...it definitely sounds like something is a bit wrong...
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05:28:32vertic23so chkdsk
05:28:51vertic23which couldn't finish last time :/ and won't be this time :(
05:29:27vertic23which cmds would you recommend?
05:29:33vertic23/F /R?
05:30:41scorche|sheh...the gui version should work fine...you can always have it run on startup too
05:31:42vertic23what does the opened lock say in the standard theme?
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05:34:25sharky6000hello. anybody here ever install rockbox on a Sansa c250?
05:34:33sharky6000(in linux)
05:36:06scorche|shvertic23: probably that it isnt key-locked
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05:36:28scorche|shsharky6000: was there a real question beneath that? ;)
05:37:17sharky6000yeah, hehe, i can elaborate
05:37:30sharky6000just wasn't sure if anybody here was paying attention :)
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05:39:33sharky6000i was planning to post the full details on the mailing list or forum but i haven't received the confirmation emails yet. i just followed the installation instructions and sansapatcher seemed to work, but when i turn off my sansa and power it back on after unplugging the USB device, the initial image flashes .. then when I press a button the rockbox firmware tells me that it can't load rockbox.mi4 (File not found)
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05:40:00LloreanSansapatcher is not the only install step.
05:40:13LloreanDid you do the rest of the install?
05:40:41sharky6000i'm following http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansac200/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-60002
05:41:29sharky6000after sansapatcher it pretty much goes right to "2.4 Running Rockbox"
05:41:43LloreanBut there's a step before sansapatcher, called "Installing the firmware"
05:42:09scorche|shsharky6000: so, you didnt get the registration email?
05:43:07sharky6000yeah, i got the firmware and uncompressed it.. same goes for the fonts. all the files are now in $HOME/.rockbox
05:43:24vertic23Llorean: do you get many rewards / money donations for your work?
05:43:30scorche|shthe instructions dont say to put it in $HOME..
05:43:36sharky6000root@gravid:~/.rockbox# ls
05:43:36sharky6000backdrops database.ignore fonts recpresets rocks viewers.config
05:43:36sharky6000codecs docs icons rockbox-info.txt tagnavi.config wps
05:43:36DBUGEnqueued KICK sharky6000
05:43:36sharky6000codepages eqs langs rockbox.mi4 themes
05:43:36sharky6000root@gravid:~/.rockbox#
05:43:47sharky6000(oops, sorry)
05:44:01Lloreansharky6000: $HOME/.rockbox is not where it tells you to extract them to.
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05:44:28scorche|shvertic23: we are volunteers who do not receive any monetary compensation, although i wouldnt say it is rewardless ;)
05:44:47Lloreanvertic23: I personally don't get any rewards. Rockbox itself has a fund that it uses for such things as buying replacement players when people doing work do something horribly wrong, etc.
05:44:54vertic23well, true - but ...maybe some bills for the server need to be paid... or beer, lotsof beer ;)
05:45:18vertic23so who wants the beer of you hehe
05:45:22scorche|shvertic23: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DonatedMoney
05:45:29sharky6000so it's supposed to be in /.rockbox?
05:45:42scorche|shsharky6000: the instructions say the root of the device
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