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#rockbox log for 2008-09-16

00:00:17amiconnThe LANG_FAILED thing should be replaced with proper status messages which don't need appending
00:01:05amiconnAppending works for english and a few other languages, but I'm sure there are languages where this order is wrong
00:01:58preglowindeed
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00:12:10rasherEven worse is pronounciation of numbers
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00:12:29rasherI don't really see a nice way of getting that right
00:13:55preglownot one that is lang file only, no
00:15:34rasheriiuc, pronouncing numbers is awfully complicated in some languages (I think Romanian might be one)
00:16:08preglowwell, there's bound to be algorithms for it
00:16:25preglowproblem is making it fit into our architecture
00:16:41amiconnBack in archos-only times I had an idea for proper number pronunciation
00:17:09preglowit would still work, i take it?
00:17:18amiconnEach language needs its own code for pronouncing numbers, since the rules are different
00:18:02amiconnBut in order to not waste space, only one such module should be loaded. My idea was to place this code into the .voice file, as position-independent code in a special "clip"
00:18:20preglowyeah, that'd be the logical way of doing it
00:18:26amiconnBut this approach has several nasty issues
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00:18:35preglowwe'd still waste space by having to allocate a buffer for it, of course
00:18:50amiconnFirst, it requires that the architecture supports position-independent code
00:19:21preglowwhy? couldn't it just be loaded at the start of the voice clip buffer?
00:19:31preglowbah, forget that
00:19:32amiconnSecond, there are languages requiring extra (actual) voice clips for composing numbers
00:19:55preglowwell, the second issue we can't avoid no matter what solution we choose...
00:20:40amiconnI mean in addition to the standard 0...19, 20..90, 100, 1000, 1000000
00:21:09amiconnYeah, but the question is what ids should be given to those extra clips
00:21:41amiconnTheir meaning might even differ from language to language, and I'm not sure how many extra clips we'd need
00:22:17preglowwe'd need some scheme that allowed each language to keep its own set, no global common identifiers or all of them
00:22:19preglowor/for
00:22:28amiconnAnd finally, such a voice file wouldn't work in the respective sim
00:23:26preglowbtw, such a scheme should be used to properly deal with things like speaking the time and things like it too
00:23:38amiconnThe current number pronunciation is wrong for german, but recognisable
00:25:16rasheramiconn: maybe just NUMBER_COMPOSE_[12345..]?
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00:37:56preglowany quick info on how i commit something to the 3.0 branch?
00:38:45gevaertspreglow: check out svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/branches/v3_0 and work in that
00:39:09gevaertsYou can use svn merge to get patches from other branches
00:39:55preglowso i can't merge a patch to 3_0 without having to check it out?
00:40:31gevaertsMaybe you can switch to it, but I'm not sure
00:41:44preglowseems to me a lot of recording stuff has been just removed, not replaced
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00:42:26preglowah, no, just the sysfont stuff
00:42:27preglowgood
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00:47:25preglowrasher: http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/norsk.diff, could you please just apply that for me?
00:47:35rasherSure
00:47:36preglowif there's nothing wrong with it
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00:48:45preglowwhat was the url for the page that analyzed a file for problems?
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01:40:38rasherpreglow: just click the little exclamation point icon next to a language
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02:14:58JThundleyhey guys, I've loved rockbox for as long as I've used it on my iaudio x5, but I filled up it's 30G hard drive
02:15:16JThundleyand it's impossible to find the 60GB version, so I'm looking at the ipods now (ugggh)
02:15:41scorcheyou might want to have a look at the HardDriveReplacement wiki page
02:15:57JThundleywell I read about replacing the hard drives in the x5's
02:16:04JThundleyand they say you can't physically fit it inside
02:16:11JThundleybecause the bigger hard drive is physically bigger
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02:18:27JThundleythe wiki says the thickness of my drive is 5mm, a 40G or 60G replacement is 8mm
02:18:30scorcheonly dual-platter hard drives..
02:19:51JThundleyhuh?
02:19:55scorcheJThundley: many iriver users have been using a ZIF to ATA adapter that will fit inside...i do not know if one of those will fit inside the x5 though
02:20:27scorcheas in only dual-platter hard drives are physically bigger...you can find a larger single platter drive
02:21:12JThundleyooooh really
02:21:30JThundleyI take it you're not an apple fan either ;)
02:21:57scorchethat isnt really on-topic here
02:22:20JThundleymy bad, my bad
02:23:12JThundleywell I'll look into a replacement drive then, thanks for informing me of that wiki page
02:23:19JThundleybut just in case, the real question I came to ask is...
02:23:32JThundleywhat generation is this and is it supported? http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipod/family/ipod_classic?mco=MTcyODQ0OA
02:23:59scorcheit says ipod classic right on the page...
02:24:34JThundleywell I see all the generations listed on the rockbox supported players page
02:24:45JThundleyand I don't want to buy some 5th generation that isn't supported or something
02:24:58scorchelook at the front page...
02:25:31JThundleyso all classics are supported then?
02:25:40scorchewhere are you seeing that?
02:26:19JThundleyoh wait it says the classic *isn't* supported
02:26:26scorche;)
02:26:32saratogagood job reading those words
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02:26:58JThundleyhaving some trouble braining today
02:29:12JThundleyI figured ipod classics were the first through 5.5th generation ipod
02:29:32scorchethat would be wrong
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02:31:37star_jasminehi I have a stupid question. how do I uninstall an iaudio x5's bootloader? please tell me I can use rbuild
02:32:29JThundleymove .rockbox out of the dir?
02:32:40saratogashould have an uninstall button in rbutil
02:32:48saratogadon't remove the .rockbox though
02:32:55saratogaat least not without uninstalling first
02:33:07star_jasmineoh good. so if its connected to the computer (this isn't mine. its for a friend) I should be able to just click uninstall?
02:33:15pixelmastar_jasmine: you would need to install the original firmware again, not sure how rbutil handles it
02:33:23scorcheJThundley: please dont give advice on topics that you are unsure about...bad information can make matters worse
02:34:36saratogai'd probably just check the manual, theres likely instructions in there
02:35:02scorchethere are
02:36:25star_jasmineok. I have the original firmware
02:36:29star_jasminezipped up
02:36:42star_jasminedo I just put that on the player in the root?
02:37:01scorchedid you read what the manual suggests?
02:37:45star_jasmineno I wish the personI knew would read it. I just read the bootloarder uninstalation/uninstall page, which was slightly confusing
02:38:28scorcheeh?
02:39:20star_jasmineah there we go
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02:46:41HillshumHow do I apply a patch to OF?
02:48:37krazykityou'd need the OF's source code for starters.
02:48:59Hillshumsource?
02:49:17Hillshumor just a disassemblely?
02:49:27krazykitwhat are you doing, exactly?
02:49:42saratogadepends on what the patch was made against, you can patch code or binary, but usually here people do code
02:49:49saratogasince patching binary is quite nasty
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02:52:54Hillshumpatching the e200v2 firmware
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02:54:02saratogai haven't been following the e200v2 development that closely, but thats going to be a binary patch
02:54:15saratogahave you read through the thread in the forums? should be all the info you need in there
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02:56:03Hillshumnot how to patch
02:56:32saratoga?
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03:04:23saratogavitja is turning out to be quite an accomplished hardware hacker
03:04:47saratogahes already got a new iaudio7 patch up
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04:40:22HillshumShould the e200 v2 page be a child of e200 or v2?
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04:42:56Hillshumping
04:46:11rasherpreglow: norsk.lang looks proper now
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04:47:22HillshumShould the e200 v2 page be a child of e200 or v2?
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05:00:38webguest55It's countrymonkey. Just ideling
05:01:01scorche|shlast i checked...idling meant not saying anything ;)
05:04:43webguest55Alright, ideling wasn't the right word; how about "being bored and talking if the need comes?" Besides, I for some reason have to send a first quote in order for other people's quotes to show up.
05:06:15Hillshumstay on topic
05:06:17Hillshum....
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07:18:31scorche|shsetkeh: please disable that script..
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07:19:49setkehscorche|sh, what script ???
07:20:03scorche|shthe away bit
07:20:25setkehscorche|sh, you mean the thing that xchat uses to say im away
07:20:39scorche|shyes
07:20:56setkehscorche|sh, why it hasent hurt anyone
07:21:13scorche|shsetkeh: please have a look at the guidelines linked in the topic
07:21:32setkehscorche|sh, fine dick
07:21:42scorche|shplease be civil..
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09:36:27JdGordoncan we tart talking about enw features again yet?
09:36:36petursure
09:36:53peturabout typing classes too ;)
09:37:12JdGordon:)
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09:55:15JdGordonanyone wanna talk about bookmarks?
09:57:27JdGordon... umm.... why isnt the left/right arrows working in the sim?
09:58:24JdGordondid someone change the sim keys in the last while?
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10:00:16JdGordonAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR stupid bloody party mode
10:02:38peturrofl
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10:21:28gevaertsmarkun: I've been thinking on my way here : this 0xa802 keeps repeating if you read again, so depending on exact needed waiting time it could 0x02a8, and if we got one bit-time wrong, that becomes 0x0154
10:23:02*JdGordon is almost finished redoing bookmarks!
10:23:04markungevaerts: so we could have made good progress yesterday after all :)
10:23:16markunJdGordon: in what way?
10:23:46gevaertsmarkun: now we have something to do tonight as well :)
10:23:47JdGordonbmark files are changing to a copy of the .playlsitcontrol file
10:24:02JdGordonmarkun: do you use bookmarks?
10:24:11markunJdGordon: I used to
10:24:50markunand yes, good idea to store the playlist with a bookmark
10:25:39JdGordonI tihnk the only thing I havnt fixed yet is the recent bookmarks list
10:25:43markunJdGordon: personally I don't think it's very useful to have multiple bookmarks for 1 playlist. Do you ever use that?
10:25:53JdGordonI dont use playlists at all :p
10:26:04JdGordonalthough, in my testing I can see why it owuld be good
10:26:46JdGordons/playlists/bookmarks
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10:32:18*MartinR would like to have the volume stored in bookmarks as well.
10:32:40JdGordoninteresting idea...
10:32:43JdGordonprobably not though
10:32:54JdGordonpatch is up at FS #9407 if anyone wants to test
10:32:56MartinRWhen resuming an audio book the was speaker shouting in my ears if I listened to loud music before.
10:33:09linuxstbReplaygain?
10:33:30JdGordonhopefully someone with a hard disk target can test it please? I only have flash targets so the delay isnt bad
10:34:10*JdGordon actually lies.... he hasnt tested on target yet
10:34:25JdGordonno sscanf for target builds!?
10:35:11JdGordonBUGGER!
10:35:12linuxstbIIRC, I think there's an sscanf in the firmware directory (Doom misuses it by linking directly), but it's not compiled for the core.
10:35:30JdGordonill use the parse list then
10:35:33JdGordonclose enough
10:36:41gevaertsmarkun: I tried both with and without delays, same results
10:45:07JdGordonparse_list is giving me the shits!
10:46:21JdGordonok, patch updated if anyone wants to try it out
10:46:23scorcheJdGordon: perhaps you should eat them then...they may have gone bad
10:46:36scorcheshouldnt...
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11:42:27JdGordon:( no bigbambi
11:46:24JdGordonso in svn the time of the bookmark is displayed, in the new system I only store the file offset... is there any way to get the time from the offset? or should I just store the time also?
11:51:21linuxstbHave you tested that with different codecs? Most resume based on a time, not a file offset, so I think you must store the time.
11:58:11pixelmahow does it work with the playlist control file?
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12:04:33JdGordonsoz phone...
12:04:46JdGordonlinuxstb: atm im storing the file offset so its perfect for all codecs
12:04:51JdGordonbut not very nice to display
12:04:56JdGordonpixelma: ?
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12:14:07linuxstbJdGordon: And you can resume any codec via a file offset?
12:14:43JdGordoncant you?
12:15:24JdGordonwell, I'm using playlist_start() which takes the start position so i just assume it works for all supported codecs
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12:18:45linuxstbMaybe there's some confusion, I haven't looked at the code for a long time, but the "offset" can be either a timestamp, or file position in bytes, depending on the codec. So it probably works, but the value you're storing may not always be a file offset in bytes, even though it looks like one...
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12:25:30JdGordonoh ok... thats fine, I'm not changing that value at all so whatever it stored gets reused... I'm using the id3->elapse to get the time in seconds which seems to work
12:25:47JdGordonwastes a bit of ram but its better
12:26:23*JdGordon now has the bookmark viewer screen working exactly as before
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12:26:35JdGordonexcpet the title isnt being displayed :p
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12:33:43JdGordonis being able to delete a resume point in a .bmark a big requirement?
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12:40:21JdGordonhey BigBambi, you use bookmarks yeah?
12:40:28BigBambiI do indeed
12:41:06JdGordoncan I get you to test out 9407 some time?
12:41:40BigBambiSure. I'm at work at the moment, but I'll try tonight (7/8 hrs time)
12:42:01JdGordongreat, by then I should have a mostly complete patch ready
12:42:18BigBambiOkey dokey
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12:51:14JdGordonBigBambi: how does unique only work? (or how is it meant to work?)
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12:55:04BigBambiJdGordon: As I understand, if you make multiple bookmarks in a playlist, it only shows the most recent bookmark you made in that playlist
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12:55:30JdGordonah ok
12:55:36JdGordonumm... hmm :p
12:55:52pixelmait is explained in the manual
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12:56:27BigBambiOtherwise if I alternate between listening to e.g. music and an audiobook and I make several bookmarks in the audiobook in a row I will only see those and not a bookmark from my music as well on the list
12:56:34BigBambiA very useful feature :)
12:57:24JdGordonok, so yeah, need to think about how to do the recent bmakrs list
12:57:31JdGordonI think everything else is done and working
12:58:01JdGordon... and talking in the list which will be annoying
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13:01:24BigBambi[selfish] I don't use talking, but recent bookmarks is essential![/selfish]
13:01:54BigBambiActually, recent bookmarks with the unique setting is practically the only way I use bookmarks
13:04:21*JdGordon understands both points
13:04:39JdGordontalking has become very important in rockbox though so that has to be done
13:05:08JdGordonand I'm trying to make it so users dont even notice a change (apart from old bmark files no longer working), so mrb stays
13:06:11BigBambiOh sure, I completely agree that talking is essential
13:06:30pixelmaI could imagine that bookmarking is even more important to blind users
13:06:34BigBambiyep
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13:14:09JdGordonpixelma: yeah, definetly, at least untill we get audio while seeking (which probably wont happen anyway)
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14:02:44*JdGordon is confused by the "recent only" bookmark options
14:04:00JdGordonspecifically the bookmark on stop - yes - recent only doesnt make sense
14:04:16JdGordonit only saves to the recent list? and doesnt create a .bmark?
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14:38:25J-23hmm, RockCalendar plugin doesn't compile for me - e200 simulator build with no other patches applied.
14:39:08J-23"make[3]: *** No rule to make target `rockcalendar_note.160x128x2.bmp', needed by `/home/Moarc/rockbox/build/apps/plugins/bitmaps/native/rockcalendar_note.160x128x2.c'. Stop."
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14:58:19MarcGuayJ-23: Are you sure you're choosing e200? That sounds like the pixel dimension for the m200.
14:58:20mcuelenaereMarcGuay: have you seen my PM?
14:58:47MarcGuaymcuelenaere: Just got it. I found an eBay listing for a replacement Zen V OLED that mentions the markings.
14:59:00mcuelenaereoh cool, could you give a link?
14:59:06MarcGuaymcuelenaere: http://cgi.ebay.com/Creative-Zen-V-V-Plus-Replacement-LCD-Screen-New_W0QQitemZ360088440582QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
14:59:48J-23yes, I tried it many times.
14:59:51MarcGuaymcuelenaere: Is there code for it already?
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15:00:01mcuelenaerehaven't looked
15:00:04J-23(with re-configuring and recompiling, with re-patching too)
15:00:38mcuelenaereMarcGuay: most important first: we need to find the memory registers in the Sigmatel SoC how to communicate with the LCD IC
15:01:02mcuelenaerebut probably those are to be found in the Linux kernel
15:01:09mcuelenaereI think I have it laying somewhere here..
15:01:16J-23hmm, e200 is not on supported players list.
15:02:04LambdaCalculus37MarcGuay: I thought the pixel dimension for the m200 was 128x64x1. 160x128x2 is the dimensions on most of the greyscale targets.
15:02:18MarcGuaymcuelenaere: This looks very useful... http://www.lxdinc.com/PDFs/P10901-A01.pdf
15:02:44mcuelenaereyes, I looked into it
15:02:45MarcGuayLambdaCalculus37: Indeed.
15:04:33mcuelenaereMarcGuay: I'll put the LCD memory registers in the wiki
15:04:34J-23that message appeared when compiling for supported iAudio X5
15:05:43MarcGuaymcuelenaere: Alrighty. And that business with it showing up as a STMP3600 Device is interesting indeed.
15:05:58mcuelenaereright, but perhaps unneeded
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15:07:48J-23yes.
15:08:03J-23hmm, it happens for every target I try
15:08:47J-23where can I get bitmaps for RockCalendar?
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15:11:29J-23hmm, I've found and I think now it should work.
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16:16:34jonscrutI have sansa c200 which I have just updated with latest current build. It won't read the fmpreset file which I have in a folder called "fmpresets" - anyone know why?
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16:18:07JdGordonhow old was the previous version you had on?
16:18:21jonscruti'm not sure exactly, about a month or so
16:18:47jonscrutI've tried some old builds but they don't seem to work either
16:19:01JdGordonyou might just have to recreate them
16:19:34jonscrutThere's nothing that should be in the config file then?
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16:29:13pixelmajonscrut: did it work before, did you try other files (maybe from the wiki), how do you load the preset file and what is your "mode" setting set to?
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16:32:08pixelmaI meant the mode setting in the radio screen for the latter
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17:21:36J-23hmm, what color is alpha for Rockbox? (BMP)
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18:36:40gevaertsdesowin_: any chance you could do some testing on the sansa OF with your printer to see what exactly goes wrong, and if it's the same problem that rockbox has?
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18:46:12funmanhi
18:47:03funmanI'm looking for the help of a kernel coder
18:47:29funmanI wonder if we need to activate any part of the system before accessing the raw nand device on a SoC
18:48:08funmanI read the datasheet of the SoC (ams3525) and it doesnt mention we need to handle interrupt requests
18:48:26funman+ in all the nand drivers I have read it's not handled
18:48:40funmanbut something else might be needed I don't think about
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18:49:00funmanFor now I only activate the nand chip clock, but it's not sufficient
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18:52:16bertrikmaybe the nand clock is derived from the main or cpu clock, so you may have to set that too
18:52:49bertrikand perhaps set device enable bit
18:53:06bertrikbut I'm not familiar enough with the ams chips
18:53:32funmanonce the nand clock bit is set, I use the nand registers to power it on, but I don't enable a main clock, I'll look into it
18:53:50funmanthe documentation for them is available on demand only and not redistributable
18:59:53funmanhum on something else: it seems some people answer in the sansav2 forum thread but delete their answers before I check the thread
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19:00:07bertrikI'd like to have a look at that documentation
19:01:07gevaertsfunman: there's a lot of junk on the v2s that gets deleted on sight (When will the port be ready? Does it run yet on the v2?...)
19:01:26funmandedicated forum mods ;)
19:02:03LambdaCalculus37That's practically what we are. ;)
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19:23:40*amiconn has a suspicion what might cause the init problem on the Transcend 4GB MMC when cold-plugged
19:26:04*bertrik is curious
19:26:09bertriknot trying the init sequence long enough?
19:26:27amiconnI suspect a firmware bug in the MMC's firmware
19:27:26amiconnAn MMC switches to SPI mode when it receives a CMD0 (GO_IDLE_STATE) while /CS is active.
19:27:56amiconnUsually this can be done any time after power on, but once in SPI mode you cannot get back into MMC mode without power cycling
19:28:28amiconnIt seems that the Transcend also refuses to go to SPI mode if it already received a CMD0 mode in what it thinks is MMC mode
19:29:38amiconnAnd the Ondio's internal flash (which is basically an MMC) is inited first, meaning the Transcend "sees" a CMD0 with its /CS unasserted
19:30:04amiconnUnfortunately we can't do much if this is actually the case
19:30:36*gevaerts assumes that firmware-upgradable MMC cards are rather rare
19:31:06amiconnI should soon know for sure; I'm building an Ondio build without hotplug and multivolume support for testing
19:32:08amiconnBah, linker error. Building like this wasn't tested for quite some time it seems...
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19:33:20markungevaerts: the meizu code works perferctly now!
19:33:33gevaertsmarkun: great!
19:34:03markunWhat's next? initialise the driver IC and the internal LCD logic?
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19:34:42gevaertsmarkun: I noticed that inits/s6d0154.txt contains the wrong init sequence. It doesn't match what's on meizume, and also doesn't make sense when looking at the datasheet
19:34:49amiconnA non-multivolume Ondio build decides at startup whether to use the MMC or the internal flash. If such a build resides in EEPROM, it will initialise the MMC without accessing the internal flash before.
19:35:05markungevaerts: yes, I guess I copied the wrong one
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19:35:50gevaertsThe "correct" one also does something weird however : it sets register 0x92, which doesn't appear in the datasheet
19:36:06gevaertsI've checked the OF, and it really does, so it's not a typo
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19:36:12markunhm
19:36:43markunso first try with and later see if it still work without
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19:40:10gevaertsmarkun: I just committed the OF init sequence. I'm not sure if we're supposed to see anything when running it though
19:40:25amiconnHmm. My suspicion points in the right direction, but it's not a 100% match
19:40:32markungevaerts: you didn't try it first?
19:40:49gevaertsI did, but I didn't see anything :)
19:41:01markunah ;)
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19:41:11amiconnThe Transcend MMC works with the non-multivolume build when cold-plugged, but then it also works after USB, which doesn't match my theory
19:41:25markungevaerts: so check the OF to see how they set up the LCD logic registers
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19:41:56*gevaerts will try
19:43:07markungevaerts: should be the same for all LCD driver ICs, right?
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19:43:25gevaertsNot sure.
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21:03:32amiconnYay! My theory was correct :D
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21:06:05*amiconn already has a partially working fix
21:06:45amiconnIt looks like the Transcend gets confused by all the SPI mode talk going to the internal flash while it's still in MMC mode itself
21:07:04amiconnSo the fix is to make sure the MMC is initialised first if present
21:07:27amiconnOnce it's in SPI mode, it no longer gets confused
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21:08:03amiconnIt works on cold-plug now, but not after USB. Worse still, after USB I get a mount panic now
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21:13:39nealhi. I've installed rockbox on my ipod and generated the database. It tells me that I have to reboot for it to take effect, however, I cannot find how to reboot the ipod.
21:14:17homieloweneal: Which ipod do you have it installed on?
21:16:29neal4th gen
21:16:56bluebrothershut it down, then start it again
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21:17:14nealI couldn't find a menu item for shutdown either
21:17:25bluebrotherhold plaz
21:17:31bluebrother*play
21:17:46nealgot it, thanks
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21:21:43gevaertsThere seems to be some maximum code size that I can upload to the meizu and run from RAM...
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21:26:24gevaertsDoes rockbox currently have special support for LCDs that allow to update parts of the screen?
21:27:02amiconnThat doesn't need "special" support. Rockbox does this for ages
21:27:08amiconnlcd_update_rect()
21:27:36gevaertsNot that I need this right now, still trying to get anything at all out of it...
21:28:21amiconnIn fact this is standard for all LCD controllers
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21:29:40BrianR___Is the accessory serial port working in rockbox with the newer ipod models?
21:30:53LambdaCalculus37Rockbox doesn't even run on newer iPod models. Only the mini, 1st gen nano, and up to the iPod video work with Rockbox.
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21:47:03*toffe82 just win the t400 for 6$ shipping include, hoping the lcd is working :)
21:47:44toffe82wrong Channel ;)
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22:24:13gevaertsmarkun: from what I understand the way the OF sets up the S6D0154 means that it uses the LCD controller from the S5L8700 to keep it provided with data. I didn't manage to get anything shown using SPI
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23:07:09Dosu_TivienIs anyone available to help a new user out?
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23:07:42advcomp2019Dosu_Tivien, just ask
23:07:49Dosu_TivienWell, my problem is kinda weird.
23:08:00Dosu_TivienI have an iPod Mini, 2nd Gen.
23:08:16Dosu_TivienI installed Rockbox on it a little while ago, and plugged it into my USB port a few minutes later
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23:08:40Dosu_TivienThe computer senses a "New hardware device" labels it Drive E:, asks I insert media, and then the iPod freezes at the rockbox main screen.
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23:09:04Dosu_TivienI'm wondering what the key combo is to force the thing to restart.
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23:09:07Dosu_Tivienif there is one...
23:09:20gevaertsDosu_Tivien: menu-select
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23:10:05Dosu_TivienThanks.
23:10:13gevaertsHold them for a while
23:10:42Dosu_TivienIt rebooted
23:10:59Dosu_TivienNow I can put music on it the way I want. Thanks, guys
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23:13:44Mf_Ghi have some questions about rockbox and the cowno d2 player...does rockbox support tv out...and is it possible to play videos with higher resolution than 320x240?
23:14:17gevaertsI don't think tv out works right now
23:14:59gevaertsAnd actually the flash support is not good enough yet to make the d2 port really usable
23:15:42Mf_Ghwhat you mean with not relly usable?
23:16:52gevaertsThe flash is read-only, so no saving settings and things like that, and even the read support is unreliable so you need some luck to actually be able to read the files on there
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23:18:45Mf_Ghok...than i have to wait and hope...would be great to get it working with tv out and higher resolution...i mean 640x480 would look great on tv but 320x240 are too less pixels to get a good picture on tv
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23:55:29tal24hi
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23:55:51tal24anyone here have a 3rd gen ipod
23:56:14tal24i installed rockbox on mine and it copletly ruined it
23:56:39advcomp2019tal24, what is wrong?
23:56:50Soapthe iPods are nay invulnerable. Let's get a report on the exact steps you too, tal24, and what your symptoms are.
23:56:51tal24it gets stuck
23:57:04SoapOk, a little more verbose than that.
23:57:06tal24i put i a certain build
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23:57:22tal24and then when i press menu to start it gets stuck on the first screen
23:57:42tal24and now my comp wont even recognize the ipod so i can reset it
23:57:49SoapPlease speak in complete sentences, tal24. Also please be precise in your descriptions of what instructions, programs, and build you used.
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23:58:12SoapAlso be precise in your descriptions of what is said on your iPod's screen.
23:58:46tal24sorry soap i installed the build a couple of months ago i will get the info in a sec

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