| 00:01:08 | lee000000 | fsck.vfat -a "SANSA C240" −−- returns −−- "dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN" "open SANSA C240:Is a directory" |
| 00:01:30 | linuxstb | You should do umount "SANSA C240" and then run fsck.vfat on the device node - e.g. /dev/sdb1. If you type "mount" now, that will tell you the correct device node (before you type umount) |
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| 00:03:24 | lee000000 | bash: unmount: command not found |
| 00:03:36 | lee000000 | I'm in Ubuntu |
| 00:03:37 | linuxstb | There is no "n" in "umount" |
| 00:03:43 | linuxstb | Or rather, just one ;) |
| 00:03:55 | lee000000 | oops |
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| 00:08:07 | lee000000 | fsck.vfat returns −− "There are differences between boot sector and its backup." −− then a bunch of Offset/Original numbers and some copy options. I'm using a Sansa c240. |
| 00:08:30 | lee000000 | this can't be it though, right? |
| 00:08:51 | linuxstb | You used the "-a" option ? |
| 00:08:57 | funman | mc2739: i'm curious, do oyu need to reboot to unbrick ? |
| 00:09:24 | mc2739 | yes |
| 00:09:41 | lee000000 | linuxstb: no, but might this error be a normal part of installing Rockbox? |
| 00:10:16 | linuxstb | No, filesystem errors are most commonly caused by you just unplugging your Sansa without unmounting it first. |
| 00:11:12 | lee000000 | ok I'll try -a. (the "Eject" command from the right-click menu on a device is the same as unmounting right? |
| 00:12:06 | linuxstb | I would expect (hope) so. |
| 00:13:08 | lee000000 | -a results −− Not automatically fixing this. Invalid disk format in boot sector. |
| 00:13:52 | funman | mc2739: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66481/ |
| 00:14:06 | funman | if usb is present it will boot OF without messing with SDRAM |
| 00:14:33 | funman | if not, it will decompress bootloader in SDRAM, and boot OF if C3 == 0 (= left pressed) |
| 00:14:33 | lee000000 | linuxstb: how do I re-mount? |
| 00:15:29 | linuxstb | lee000000: This is getting off-topic for this channel. Maybe someone else can help in #rockbox-community - I also need to leave now. |
| 00:15:52 | mc2739 | ok - trying again |
| 00:16:05 | lee000000 | alright. Thank you. |
| 00:16:06 | funman | oh I forgot |
| 00:16:22 | funman | I should have lighted the button led at power up |
| 00:16:38 | mc2739 | ok |
| 00:16:56 | funman | do you want to add it before flashing? |
| 00:18:05 | mc2739 | sure - it would be good to have some visual response |
| 00:18:38 | funman | ldr r0, =GPIOD mov r1, #0x80 str r1, [r0, #0x400] str r1, [r0, #0x200] |
| 00:18:48 | funman | just add this with proper \n right after start: |
| 00:19:04 | funman | so in case the code doesn't work you'll know if it's still running or not |
| 00:21:05 | mc2739 | ok - added - trying |
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| 00:27:25 | bertrik | found a "bit-banged" byte send algorithm in the fuze, maybe it's the radio chip communication |
| 00:27:52 | bertrik | will check that out tomorrow... /me -> sleep |
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| 00:30:42 | mc2739 | funman: still no good - now I get button light on any key, but nothing else - and no OF on usb |
| 00:30:55 | funman | herm |
| 00:31:02 | funman | does it shutdown properly at least ? |
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| 00:32:59 | mc2739 | no - have to power of with long power |
| 00:33:13 | funman | very weird |
| 00:33:35 | mc2739 | shouldn't button light code come after gpio clock is enabled? |
| 00:33:46 | funman | oh right |
| 00:34:11 | funman | then that means that at least we reach enabling of the gpio clock |
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| 00:40:09 | funman | I re-read the code and I can't tell what's wrong with the 'escape path' (usb plugged) |
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| 00:46:04 | funman | and it's fine in the emulator ... |
| 00:46:57 | mc2739 | I don't see anything wrong either |
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| 00:49:20 | funman | what about usb+left button ? |
| 00:50:13 | mc2739 | didn't try that, and it is not coming on at all now |
| 00:50:39 | funman | i.e. no light ? |
| 00:51:06 | mc2739 | yes - no light with any buttons |
| 00:51:16 | funman | usb without left = light ? |
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| 00:52:47 | mc2739 | nothing period - it is not even turning on the light like before |
| 00:53:00 | funman | that must mean it's still running |
| 00:53:18 | funman | no, that MEANS it's still running |
| 00:53:33 | mc2739 | can't be - I have taken the battery out |
| 00:53:41 | funman | ah :) |
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| 00:54:05 | funman | then what changed .. ? |
| 00:54:21 | mc2739 | I don't know |
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| 00:57:04 | funman | can you still access the recovery mode? |
| 00:57:48 | mc2739 | yes |
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| 01:00:31 | funman | what if you move enabling of gpio clock right after start: |
| 01:00:32 | JThundley | oh crap I think I just broke my ipod running ./ipodpatcher −−add-bootloader /media/IPOD/.rockbox/rockbox.ipod |
| 01:00:48 | funman | plus, say one second delay to be sure to have the time to see the light up |
| 01:00:54 | JThundley | it doesn't get past the apple logo boot |
| 01:01:15 | JThundley | I backed it up first with ./ipodpatcher −−read-partition firmwarebackup.img |
| 01:03:24 | JThundley | I can't get my computer to recognize and mount it now though, how can I do this and restore the image? |
| 01:03:52 | funman | isn't there a −−write-partition ? |
| 01:04:15 | funman | if it's not listed in dmesg, you can't do anything though |
| 01:04:19 | JThundley | yeah, but I can't write it because the player never goes into usb mode |
| 01:04:22 | JThundley | exactly |
| 01:04:33 | funman | I think there is key combinations to make it go in a certain mode |
| 01:05:10 | JThundley | I read about a special maintenance mode or something |
| 01:05:21 | JThundley | I tried the menu-select reboot a few times, it's not helping though |
| 01:06:48 | funman | try rmmod ehci_hcd |
| 01:07:01 | funman | + a different usb port, and if you can a different cable |
| 01:07:53 | JThundley | ok, I can do that, thanks |
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| 01:10:22 | mc2739 | bbl - unbricking and testing new build |
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| 01:12:41 | JThundley | funman: nothing, reloaded all my usb modules and modprobed them back in, the kernel only sees my mouse |
| 01:12:49 | JThundley | and I'm using a different cord on a different port |
| 01:12:58 | JThundley | it's stuck on the apple logo |
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| 01:13:28 | funman | i don't know anything about ipods sorry |
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| 01:14:12 | JThundley | ok, I found a page about diagnostic mode |
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| 01:25:32 | lard-Vader | I am curious, is usb connectivity to other devices such as cameras on the NoDo list? |
| 01:25:56 | funman | did you read this document ? |
| 01:26:35 | lard-Vader | Well |
| 01:26:40 | funman | http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/docs/NODO?view=log well it was written for the archos but I guess it still applies |
| 01:26:41 | lard-Vader | I read something on the mailing list |
| 01:26:56 | lard-Vader | but when I checked the noDo list it wasn't there |
| 01:27:40 | lard-Vader | http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2007-11/0371.shtml |
| 01:27:54 | lard-Vader | I was just curious if anyone answered his questions. |
| 01:28:11 | lard-Vader | Because there was only one response, which was "rockbox is not linux" |
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| 01:29:00 | funman | I think that most hardware doesn't allow that, and if it does allow this mode, then Someone can develop it |
| 01:29:25 | funman | i'm not sure it has its place in rockbox, but for sure it will not exist if nobody writes it ;) |
| 01:29:25 | lard-Vader | So there is no decision against it as a matter of principle? |
| 01:29:51 | funman | there will be a decision when someone will have written the code |
| 01:29:58 | lard-Vader | I can program some, I could try. |
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| 01:32:43 | lard-Vader | Would it not be possible on the ipod because apple software takes care of the interfacing? |
| 01:33:21 | funman | I don't know ipod, you should first check if the ipod's hardware can act as an USB master and control a slave (camera) |
| 01:33:43 | funman | http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/docs/NODO?revision=5086&view=markup : read Q4 |
| 01:34:52 | JThundley | funman: I fixed it :) |
| 01:35:05 | JThundley | for the record, you have to enter "disk mode" which is different than diagnostics mode |
| 01:35:10 | JThundley | you hold down select and play as it boots |
| 01:35:51 | funman | cool :) |
| 01:36:10 | lard-Vader | funman:thanks |
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| 01:40:44 | lee000000 | well I finally found the source of the error "Prefetch abort at FFFFFFFe (0)" −− apparently it was somthing in my left-over "config.cfg". Anyone know what it might be? |
| 01:41:54 | JdGordon | did you recently upgrade from a rather old build? |
| 01:42:08 | lee000000 | over a month |
| 01:42:25 | JdGordon | its not the config.cfg then... its nvrab.bin |
| 01:42:29 | JdGordon | nvram.bin |
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| 01:43:10 | lee000000 | if I copy my old config.cfg to my player right now, and start RB I get the same error...? |
| 01:43:35 | lee000000 | it's been close to two months |
| 01:43:49 | JdGordon | no... your conifig.cfg file is safe.. put it back on... just delete the .rockbox/nvram.bin file |
| 01:44:03 | lee000000 | < trying... |
| 01:45:34 | lee000000 | JdGordon: same error |
| 01:46:16 | JdGordon | hmm wierd |
| 01:48:24 | funman | mc2739: do you have better results now , |
| 01:49:53 | mc2739 | yes - after 2 tries |
| 01:50:15 | mc2739 | I caused a neverending loop on the first try |
| 01:50:23 | funman | oops :o) |
| 01:50:30 | funman | can you boot the OF ? |
| 01:50:41 | mc2739 | yes, with usb |
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| 01:51:14 | funman | cool ;) |
| 01:51:20 | funman | what about rockbox ? |
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| 01:52:34 | funman | also, can you give me your diff so we stay in sync ? |
| 01:53:25 | mc2739 | well, its still not working as expected |
| 01:53:35 | lee000000 | JdGordon: sorry, my system froze. Anyway I deleted nvram.bin, but if I put my config.cfg on it I get the Prefetch error. (here's my cfg http://pastebin.ca/1243622) |
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| 01:54:25 | JdGordon | remove the line start in screen: previous |
| 01:54:42 | funman | mc2739: if you can boot OF through USB that is progress however :) |
| 01:54:50 | mc2739 | I thought I coded it to turn on led, turn off led, turn on led then continue - but it just blinks constantly |
| 01:54:57 | lee000000 | < trying... |
| 01:55:33 | funman | mc2739: with assembly the littlest error is fatal :/ |
| 01:55:46 | funman | I have bricked 2 clips already |
| 01:55:58 | mc2739 | her's the code - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/66518/ |
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| 01:56:50 | funman | yep .. it was fatal |
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| 01:57:41 | funman | mc2739: looks correct |
| 01:58:02 | funman | what could happen is that we execute from #0 with the code untouched, so it's like a continuous reset |
| 01:58:31 | mc2739 | it does not matter which button I press, it just blinks |
| 01:58:38 | lee000000 | JdGordon: that fixed it. Has "start in screen:" been changed to anther word/phrase? |
| 01:59:09 | JdGordon | no, its just slighty bugged |
| 01:59:19 | funman | mc2739: ah of course .. |
| 01:59:27 | lee000000 | JdGordon: alright. Thank you. |
| 01:59:41 | funman | line 163 we branch to ucl_unpack function |
| 01:59:52 | funman | but when we come back, the code has been replaced by the OF .. |
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| 02:00:06 | lee000000 | peace Rockboxers |
| 02:00:07 | funman | mc2739: try mov lr, #0 instead of adr lr, next |
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| 02:00:58 | funman | we'll need yet another trick to patch the OF / or not (depending on the pressed button) |
| 02:01:10 | mc2739 | ok - changed, trying now |
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| 02:04:00 | mc2739 | no change |
| 02:04:11 | funman | OF only boots on USB ? |
| 02:04:17 | mc2739 | yes |
| 02:04:49 | funman | if there is a data abort, the cpu will restart at start: |
| 02:05:00 | funman | that means the sdram init / write doesn't go well |
| 02:08:14 | funman | can you try b decompress_rb just after bl sdram_init ? |
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| 02:09:43 | funman | in fact if usb check works I could try the code on my Clip but I'm too scard .. |
| 02:10:12 | mc2739 | its not worth it - too easy to brick |
| 02:10:32 | funman | maybe when I'll receive my JTAG adapter ;) |
| 02:11:01 | mc2739 | I've added b decompress_rb after line 116 - correct? |
| 02:11:41 | funman | yep |
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| 02:14:22 | mc2739 | now I get one flash with button pressed or not pressed, I get OF with usb |
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| 02:14:52 | funman | after one flash do you have to power it off to reboot it ? |
| 02:15:02 | mc2739 | yes |
| 02:15:45 | funman | argh |
| 02:15:52 | funman | it's b decompress_of |
| 02:15:58 | funman | else it does an infinite loop :-) |
| 02:16:10 | funman | see how dangerous it is ? :) |
| 02:16:11 | mc2739 | thats what I thought |
| 02:16:36 | mc2739 | at least it confirms sdram_init is OK |
| 02:17:12 | funman | well if we can not write to it, not completely |
| 02:19:18 | mc2739 | now I get a single blink and then it boots OF |
| 02:19:24 | funman | start of compressed image r9 = wrong |
| 02:20:09 | funman | should be "add r0, r3, #1" |
| 02:20:25 | mc2739 | where? |
| 02:20:28 | funman | because r3 was used in the copy loop and points 1 byte below the start of the compressed bootloader |
| 02:20:39 | funman | line 130 in the pastebin |
| 02:21:13 | funman | well wait |
| 02:21:18 | funman | there is more wrongness |
| 02:22:33 | funman | just delete the instruction, r0 already points to 0x30010000 which is the start of the compressed bootloader, and it was not modified |
| 02:23:37 | mc2739 | done, anything else? |
| 02:23:45 | funman | nope, looks good |
| 02:26:18 | mc2739 | now I get a single blink and then it boots OF |
| 02:26:42 | funman | herm, no bootloader ? |
| 02:26:54 | funman | ah no it's normal |
| 02:27:37 | mc2739 | we still have b decompress_of after bl sdram_init |
| 02:27:55 | funman | oh ok, remove that ^^ |
| 02:29:37 | funman | then mov lr, #0x30000000 instead of #0 to try booting into the SDRAM bootloader (I have a version which does that depending on a button if you prefer, but USB should be enough) |
| 02:31:29 | mc2739 | in fw_copy |
| 02:31:30 | mc2739 | ? |
| 02:32:04 | funman | yep |
| 02:32:32 | funman | following code will not be executed, the ucl_unpack (bx r8) will use what you put in lr as a return address |
| 02:34:19 | mc2739 | still boots OF |
| 02:34:47 | funman | what with the mov lr, #0x30000000 ? |
| 02:34:55 | mc2739 | yes |
| 02:35:04 | funman | herm |
| 02:35:41 | funman | can you repaste the whoe dualboot.S please ? |
| 02:36:33 | mc2739 | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/66533/ |
| 02:38:50 | funman | looks good, perhaps the button gpio checks are messed up |
| 02:40:04 | funman | can you swap lines 105 & 106 ? I don't know if mov modifies the flags |
| 02:40:52 | funman | well r10 isn't used any way so .. |
| 02:41:25 | mc2739 | isn't it used in next: |
| 02:41:43 | mc2739 | line 167 |
| 02:41:49 | funman | you can deleted everything below next , it's not called |
| 02:41:57 | mc2739 | oh |
| 02:42:11 | funman | after line 162 we won't return to this code, because it's overwritten by the unpack function |
| 02:42:17 | mc2739 | that is where the button check is |
| 02:42:57 | funman | it was wrong , sorry |
| 02:43:03 | funman | do you want a new patch ? |
| 02:43:22 | mc2739 | sure |
| 02:43:49 | mc2739 | as long as it does not mess up usb check |
| 02:43:53 | mc2739 | :) |
| 02:44:01 | funman | it shouldn't .. |
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| 02:48:41 | funman | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/66537/ < the dualboot.S |
| 02:49:56 | funman | so button left = OF, no button = bootloader |
| 02:50:19 | funman | and usb = OF of course |
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| 02:55:01 | mc2739 | I don't know what happened, but now I can't boot into OF |
| 02:55:11 | funman | damn sorry :( |
| 02:55:34 | mc2739 | not your fault - I didn't load the new dualboot.S yet |
| 02:55:42 | funman | oh |
| 02:56:21 | funman | maybe the e200 wants you to leave it alone :) |
| 02:56:35 | mc2739 | hehe maybe |
| 02:56:53 | funman | i'll continue on the OF patcher, hoping than running from SDRAM works |
| 02:57:19 | mc2739 | ok - I'm off to unbrick again |
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| 02:57:30 | funman | well wait a bit |
| 02:57:40 | funman | no need to unbrick since it's not bricked - the code didn't change itself |
| 02:57:56 | funman | and I doubt out of a crashed state it branched to a working SD driver |
| 02:58:36 | mc2739 | something changed - it now blinks once and hangs with the led on |
| 02:58:51 | mc2739 | with usb, button, or no button |
| 02:59:22 | funman | even if you unplug the battery a while to be sure everything is reset ? |
| 02:59:34 | mc2739 | yes |
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| 03:00:32 | mc2739 | like what happened earlier - when we first turned on the led |
| 03:01:03 | mc2739 | it worked for a bit, then quit working |
| 03:01:20 | funman | weird .. |
| 03:01:46 | mc2739 | yes it is |
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| 03:18:12 | funman | mc2739: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66550/ |
| 03:18:56 | funman | this version adds a branch into OF, if it works next step is to modify the bootloader to read i2c registers |
| 03:19:06 | funman | well, power management registers on the i2c bus |
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| 03:27:08 | mc2739 | ok - i'll test it as soon as I unbrick again - I could not get it to boot back into the OF |
| 03:27:40 | funman | pretty weird, could it be that we set some remaining setting even after power off ? |
| 03:27:53 | funman | in the datasheet they say the rtc is alimented even the device off |
| 03:28:09 | funman | however when I tried to use it the counter was near to 0 |
| 03:29:07 | mc2739 | I don't know - it blinks the led once and then "hangs" with the led on. I can turn it off with the power button, so it is not really locked up |
| 03:29:34 | funman | still it would be nice to know what the cpu is executing |
| 03:29:46 | mc2739 | true |
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| 03:55:44 | funman | mc2739: re, I have posted full patch on http://paste.ubuntu.com/66560/ (should boot OF in every case, and bootloader/modified OF if button left is pressed) |
| 03:56:10 | funman | well in fact it's wrong since I modified the rockbox bootloader ^^ |
| 03:56:26 | mc2739 | funman: well, it appears that my e200 is bricked |
| 03:56:37 | JdGordon | :( |
| 03:56:40 | funman | oh really ? |
| 03:56:48 | funman | you can't use the recovery mode , |
| 03:56:50 | funman | ?* |
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| 03:57:54 | mc2739 | I can get into the recovery mode, /dev/sdc does not show up |
| 03:58:12 | funman | do you use the battery or usb to power up ? |
| 03:58:28 | mc2739 | usb |
| 03:58:38 | funman | :( |
| 03:59:23 | funman | sometimes I had to retry several times to be sure to have linked the 2 pins together on the Clip |
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| 04:00:49 | mc2739 | I tried several time - I got the correct response from lsusb (0721:6200) |
| 04:01:35 | funman | oh so it's present but no mass storage? |
| 04:01:42 | funman | are you on windows now ? |
| 04:01:48 | mc2739 | yes |
| 04:02:06 | funman | try sudo rmmod ehci_hcd #Â sometimes usb2 causes problem |
| 04:02:28 | funman | or try different usb ports / cable if you can |
| 04:02:45 | mc2739 | I did try different ports and cables |
| 04:03:01 | funman | and usb1 instead of usb2 ? |
| 04:03:04 | funman | keep hope :) |
| 04:03:18 | mc2739 | not usb1 yet |
| 04:03:51 | mc2739 | but, this might be the same weirdness we saw causing this too |
| 04:04:04 | funman | yep |
| 04:04:12 | funman | well we'll see |
| 04:04:37 | funman | I'm going to bed, it's a 'bit' late now here .. |
| 04:04:40 | mc2739 | I'll look over the pcb with a magnifying glass to see if I damaged anything |
| 04:05:06 | mc2739 | ok - gnight |
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| 04:05:08 | funman | I hope for you that your e200 works again |
| 04:05:13 | mc2739 | thanks |
| 04:06:10 | funman | thanks for all the testing so far |
| 04:06:54 | funman | when it's back again if you (or someone else who read the logs) want to try the code, it's there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66564/ |
| 04:07:02 | funman | @tomorrow |
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| 06:10:50 | saratoga | soap: if your resynced version of the ipod accessory patch works, perhaps you should commit it before it goes out of sync again |
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| 07:39:03 | funman | JdGordon: were you grumbling about your e200 ? |
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| 08:47:58 | amiconn | Zagor: Is there a reason why 'make clean' in a voice build dir makes the apps depfile before cleaning? Imho this is a bug. I don't think the depfile is needed for voice builds at all |
| 08:48:34 | Zagor | The makefiles are still work in progress. There is still lots wrong with them. |
| 08:49:07 | Zagor | To answer your question: I agree |
| 08:49:12 | amiconn | ok |
| 08:49:44 | * | amiconn wanted to report that because it might not be easily noticeable on linux |
| 08:49:44 | funman | Zagor: did you notice the patch for using cmake on flyspray ? |
| 08:49:52 | Zagor | The combination of dynamically generated code (bitmaps) and parallell compilation (-j) is a tough one |
| 08:50:28 | Zagor | funman: yes. but I'm rather unconvinced moving to a completely new tool (which none of the devs have ever worked with) is a very good idea |
| 08:50:42 | funman | I have worked with it already |
| 08:51:12 | funman | but I quickly gave up - it was not very much different from autotools which we were trying to replace |
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| 08:51:40 | Zagor | yeah, I don't feel it would really reduce complexity |
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| 09:00:22 | WarpTI | hello why do battery icons refuse to load on any theme i get for sansa c250? |
| 09:00:56 | WarpTI | do i have to add a line to the bmp in the cfg file to fix that? |
| 09:01:05 | WarpTI | and in that case what line? |
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| 09:01:57 | amiconn | Zagor: What I don't understand with plain 'make' is how dependencies from stuff handled by another Makefile is supposed to work |
| 09:02:03 | funman | linuxstb: hey, I'm trying to hijack the Clip OF to show the values of power management registers, do you have a free hand ? |
| 09:02:26 | Zagor | amiconn: it isn't handled. you need to specify/generate every single dependency. |
| 09:02:32 | amiconn | Either we add the dependency and the sub-make call explicitly, but somehow the sub-make then always gets called twice |
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| 09:03:11 | amiconn | Or we don't, but then the parent 'make' thinks there's nothing to do if the only change was in a dir handled by the sub-make |
| 09:03:13 | Zagor | that's why the cygwin sim builds (and others, if provoked right) fail on rockboxlogo.h etc. |
| 09:03:20 | Zagor | exactly |
| 09:03:48 | amiconn | We used to have the former situation for the bitmaps, and the latter situation for pluginlib, codec libs etc. Now we have it for the bitmaps as well |
| 09:03:55 | Zagor | the solution is either a) painstakingly generate dependencies for subdirs, or b) consolidate apps/Makefile into a single huge Makefile |
| 09:04:25 | amiconn | Do automake & friends have a solution for this problem? |
| 09:04:29 | linuxstb | funman: Maybe, although the working day is about to start... What do you need? |
| 09:04:39 | B4gder | well, (b) would be tricky but having a single makefile would also speed up builds a lot |
| 09:05:00 | Zagor | amiconn: not that I'm aware of. this is a consequence of how make works |
| 09:05:05 | WarpTI | i would be greatful if battery icons worked on any theme i've got |
| 09:05:07 | Zagor | B4gder: yes |
| 09:05:28 | WarpTI | and im using latest rockbox on c250 |
| 09:05:30 | funman | linuxstb: well I'm using 'adr label' to relocate a function and I think this is not correct - I can't see the adr instruction in my quick reference set |
| 09:05:36 | linuxstb | Couldn't use of includes make b) more managable? |
| 09:05:46 | Zagor | a) is sort of half-half, because we'd have to generate dependencies for the whole tree but still run separate Makefiles |
| 09:06:00 | Zagor | linuxstb: yes it could |
| 09:06:03 | amiconn | funman: 'adr' is a pseudo-instruction provided by the arm assembler |
| 09:06:26 | amiconn | It gets translated into a pc-relative ldr and a constant put into the constant pool |
| 09:06:31 | * | linuxstb has always liked the idea of a single Makefile |
| 09:07:34 | WarpTI | theme wont show up 100% rockbox bug? |
| 09:07:40 | funman | amiconn: ok this is what I thought, ida shows adr, but objdump shows the real instruction |
| 09:07:53 | amiconn | http://sourceware.org/binutils/docs/as/ARM-Opcodes.html#ARM-Opcodes |
| 09:08:16 | * | amiconn was slightly wrong |
| 09:08:32 | amiconn | 'adr' is converted to a pc-relative add/sub |
| 09:11:04 | linuxstb | WarpTI: What exactly happens? Is the .wps rejected, or does everything work in the WPS apart from the battery status? |
| 09:11:53 | WarpTI | everything works except the battery skinning |
| 09:12:14 | WarpTI | its like the whole upper line is a skin that wont work |
| 09:12:37 | linuxstb | In the WPS, or elsewhere in Rockbox? |
| 09:12:47 | WarpTI | any wps does the same |
| 09:12:58 | WarpTI | loads anything except the upper battery bar |
| 09:13:52 | WarpTI | question is if it needs a command line in the cfg |
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| 09:14:08 | WarpTI | cause so far nothing tells the cfg to load that stuff |
| 09:15:01 | linuxstb | WarpTI: I still don't understand your question - are you looking at the "while-playing screen", or (for example), the main menu? |
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| 09:15:27 | WarpTI | i wanna fix the skinning part |
| 09:15:34 | WarpTI | say you load a skin |
| 09:15:41 | WarpTI | and part of any skin wont load |
| 09:16:28 | WarpTI | battery-132x80x16.bmp |
| 09:16:31 | WarpTI | that file |
| 09:16:39 | WarpTI | wont load on any of the skins |
| 09:16:40 | WarpTI | :( |
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| 09:19:25 | WarpTI | any solution? |
| 09:19:56 | funman | WarpTI: maybe start by answering the question linuxstb asked you |
| 09:20:51 | WarpTI | ok im looking at both |
| 09:20:57 | WarpTI | of the screens |
| 09:21:39 | linuxstb | And you see the same "status bar" at the top of both screens? |
| 09:21:45 | WarpTI | its the general im talking about |
| 09:21:49 | WarpTI | before playing songs |
| 09:22:39 | WarpTI | well when i browse setting and that stuff , battery skin's straight up |
| 09:22:39 | linuxstb | The status bar isn't skinnable. All you can do is show/hide it, and in a WPS replace it with the normal WPS elements. |
| 09:23:09 | WarpTI | it aint? |
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| 09:23:40 | WarpTI | you mean its called statusbar where u see time and everything |
| 09:23:53 | linuxstb | Yes. |
| 09:24:15 | WarpTI | I thought it was skinnable |
| 09:24:29 | WarpTI | since there are bmps for it on the skins |
| 09:25:00 | WarpTI | guess im wrong then |
| 09:25:03 | WarpTI | thanx |
| 09:25:20 | linuxstb | No, those bmps are just used in the while-playing screen - the names are just chosen by the wps author, and don't mean anything. |
| 09:25:25 | pixelma | there is also a setting to show battery info (and volume info, I believe) graphical or numerical. This is still only what Rockbox provides not external bitmaps or so |
| 09:25:54 | WarpTI | would it hurt to make it skinnable someday guys? |
| 09:26:07 | linuxstb | WarpTI: You may want to look at this page to understand how Rockbox themes work - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS |
| 09:26:20 | LinusN | WarpTI: it will probably not be "skinnable" in the Winamp sense |
| 09:26:36 | linuxstb | WarpTI: I think it's a generally wanted feature, just not high enough on anyone's to-do list. |
| 09:26:39 | WarpTI | thanx man i made a batmantheme so far thats kinda nice :) |
| 09:27:58 | linuxstb | LinusN: What's the "Winamp sense" ? |
| 09:28:16 | LinusN | i.e superimposing a bitmap |
| 09:28:43 | LinusN | i think it would be more like the current wps |
| 09:29:02 | LinusN | or am i wrong about winamp skinning? |
| 09:30:14 | * | linuxstb knows nothing about winamp skinning |
| 09:31:00 | WarpTI | I started making a theme by editing cabbie v2 cfg and bitmaps , seems to work quite well :) |
| 09:31:28 | LinusN | btw, what happened with the gsoc wps editor? |
| 09:32:10 | linuxstb | It's in SVN, but not finished... |
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| 09:38:50 | WarpTI | just a question about what to change in cfg , say i want bar (solid colour) whats the line for that? |
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| 09:39:16 | WarpTI | Im speaking themes |
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| 09:42:00 | linuxstb | You can change those colours in Rockbox itself (Settings -> Theme Settings), and then create a .cfg file containing them (and then copy/paste). Or just look at an existing theme .cfg file |
| 09:42:40 | linuxstb | Or you can run the "settings_dumper" plugin (if you're using a recent version of Rockbox) |
| 09:43:13 | WarpTI | yes i am |
| 09:46:41 | JdGordon | and everyone said that plugin would be useless :D |
| 09:47:13 | WarpTI | heh not for me thanx a bunch guys |
| 09:47:31 | WarpTI | makes it even easier for me to customize my c250 themes |
| 09:47:32 | WarpTI | :) |
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| 09:50:44 | linuxstb | JdGordon: I wouldn't call it an "Application" though - maybe we need a new plugin category, e.g. "tools" for these system-like utilities. |
| 09:51:57 | JdGordon | I'm trying to fix a problem with the root menu code which data aborts when the nvram.bin isnt valid and the start screen is set to previous... I think "next_screen = (int)global_status.last_screen" is the problem (gs.last_screen is a char and the default value is -1)... I asked in #gcc but they reckon -1 as a char will get converted to -1 as an int so i dunno? |
| 09:52:25 | linuxstb | It's defined as just "char" ? |
| 09:53:00 | * | linuxstb recalls mentioning this before... |
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| 09:54:18 | * | B4gder recalls this being discussed before |
| 09:54:31 | WarpTI | i think basing a theme on an already done theme is easier than waiting for cygwin :) |
| 09:54:43 | * | JdGordon doesnt remember the previous discussion |
| 09:55:02 | B4gder | "char" is not explicitly signed |
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| 09:55:24 | funman | right, but in practice it is |
| 09:55:27 | B4gder | no |
| 09:55:43 | funman | i don't know of any compiler where 'char' is unsigned |
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| 09:56:09 | B4gder | I recall gcc versions with it |
| 09:56:24 | B4gder | it rather depends on the target arch, and not specific compiler |
| 09:56:27 | linuxstb | funman: Any ARM compiler should... |
| 09:56:49 | linuxstb | (and MIPS IIRC) |
| 09:56:54 | funman | oh |
| 09:57:07 | B4gder | yeah, they're several |
| 09:57:20 | linuxstb | The C standard explicitly says that "char" can be either signed or unsigned, and it's implementation-dependant |
| 09:58:49 | B4gder | it's funny that guys in #gcc wouldb't say this... |
| 09:59:46 | funman | do you trust people on the internet ? :) |
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| 10:00:28 | B4gder | my world is shaking. You mean people say things that aren't true on the internet?! |
| 10:02:01 | linuxstb | JdGordon: In practice, this means that "char x = -1 ; int y = x;" will make y contain 255. |
| 10:02:11 | GodEater | B4gder: http://xkcd.com/386/ |
| 10:02:27 | B4gder | hahaha |
| 10:03:00 | JdGordon | linuxstb: yeah, thats what i thought was happening... although the data abort gives the nuber fffffe ? |
| 10:03:35 | GodEater | B4gder: my girlfriend tells me that that cartoon describes me precisely. |
| 10:03:56 | funman | JdGordon: what if you cast it first to (signed char) ? |
| 10:04:55 | JdGordon | dunno... |
| 10:05:07 | * | JdGordon unfortunatly became busy just as i finished typing the message before :( |
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| 10:11:19 | linuxstb | The correct solution would seem to be to change last_screen to "signed char", if it's being assigned the value -1. |
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| 10:33:44 | JdGordon | linuxstb: ok, doing that gives a data abort when i try going into the plugin browser! |
| 10:34:41 | linuxstb | OK, but using a signed char is The Right Thing, if you're assigning -1 to it. |
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| 10:37:02 | JdGordon | the abort is at 00006b80.. the closest number in the .map is 0x0000000000006b2c |
| 10:37:21 | JdGordon | arg, yeah that works |
| 10:37:54 | JdGordon | FFS.. thats not even svn code :< |
| 10:37:57 | * | JdGordon slaps self |
| 10:38:07 | funman | linuxstb: do you know if the sandisk logo is located in the firmware block on the Clip OF ? |
| 10:38:28 | linuxstb | No idea, I haven't looked for it. |
| 10:38:41 | funman | I have a weird lockup when showing the logo |
| 10:39:35 | funman | it is sometimes persistant on reboot even if I select the "safe" path with a button press |
| 10:40:50 | funman | the only reference I see to the lcd_write_data routine is in some code loaded in SDRAM |
| 10:40:56 | funman | so it might |
| 10:57:26 | JdGordon | pixelma: amiconn: should I make the "f3" screen customizable? |
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| 11:05:02 | * | pixelma knows next to nothing about the F3 screen, only "it exists" |
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| 11:05:47 | * | JdGordon adds that to the list of features which can be removed when the time comes |
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| 11:06:27 | pixelma | urgh |
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| 11:10:48 | JdGordon | ... that was a joke... |
| 11:21:00 | JdGordon | anyone got a commit ready so I can do 2 quick ones without triggering a build in between? |
| 11:26:12 | * | funman successfully hijacked Clip's OF |
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| 11:45:56 | WarpTI | hey guys |
| 11:46:15 | WarpTI | somehow i failed to operate the rockbox logo swapper |
| 11:46:24 | WarpTI | any ideas? |
| 11:46:41 | B4gder | we don't provide any such tool afaik |
| 11:46:49 | WarpTI | oh |
| 11:46:58 | funman | I'm not able to use the display however :/ |
| 11:47:13 | WarpTI | thought it was done by the team to ease the swapping of rockbox logos |
| 11:47:26 | B4gder | WarpTI: it might be, but not this team |
| 11:47:59 | JdGordon | oh bloody hell... it works untill im ready to commit then it falls apart :'( |
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| 11:50:37 | linuxstb | funman: You don't have enough room for the full bootloader code? |
| 11:50:46 | funman | ah now I can |
| 11:50:49 | funman | linuxstb: yes I do have |
| 11:51:03 | funman | now I can't read i2c properly, perhaps because it was setup to use interrupts |
| 11:51:10 | linuxstb | \o/ That should be very helpful. |
| 11:51:15 | funman | and the 64 registers do not fit on the screen ;) |
| 11:52:08 | funman | I wanted to execute the bootloader from SDRAM but finaly it fitted into the IRAM (at 0x30000) |
| 11:53:16 | linuxstb | So the OF isn't using all the IRAM? |
| 11:53:25 | funman | no |
| 11:53:36 | funman | this area is used to load 'blocks' from the SD |
| 11:54:11 | linuxstb | What function in the OF did you hook into? |
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| 11:54:51 | funman | right when the SD card is powered up |
| 11:55:08 | funman | hum now I can't get display working anymore .. |
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| 11:57:00 | WarpTI | in what file is the rockbox logo? nvram.bin? |
| 11:57:56 | linuxstb | It's part of the main Rockbox file - rockbox.mi4 |
| 11:58:30 | linuxstb | I think it's also displayed in the bootloader on the c250 |
| 11:59:53 | WarpTI | whats the c250 bootloader called? |
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| 12:00:18 | JdGordon | is it better to display the "canceled" splash every time the user presses the back button, or to not splash at all? |
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| 12:00:38 | JdGordon | trying to simulate the usual option screen but cant get it perfect easily |
| 12:02:06 | B4gder | WarpTI: it's called "the bootloader" ! |
| 12:02:34 | Zagor | JdGordon: no splash imho |
| 12:02:54 | Zagor | otherwise it gets very annoying when you're browsing the settings |
| 12:02:57 | WarpTI | seem to have no such file called "the bootloader" on my c250 |
| 12:03:21 | B4gder | WarpTI: you don't |
| 12:03:30 | JdGordon | Zagor: ok |
| 12:04:45 | WarpTI | can i turn off the splash too? |
| 12:04:58 | B4gder | "the splash" ? |
| 12:05:08 | WarpTI | bootlogo |
| 12:05:24 | B4gder | sure, anything is possible if you just edit the source and recompile |
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| 12:05:35 | WarpTI | aha no options |
| 12:05:43 | WarpTI | im not a compiler |
| 12:05:52 | WarpTI | im more of a normal user. |
| 12:06:35 | * | pixelma wonders what JdGordon is doing/planning to do |
| 12:07:13 | JdGordon | fixing up custom quickscreens to commit it... trying to make the selector as close to the usual settings screen as possible |
| 12:07:39 | funman | now I have access to the i2c registers |
| 12:12:28 | funman | http://paste.ubuntu.com/66697/ : now to the analysis and reproduction ^^ |
| 12:13:25 | linuxstb | WarpTI: No, there are no user-configurable options to change the Rockbox logo - it's the Rockbox logo... |
| 12:13:52 | funman | the hijacking patch is on http://paste.ubuntu.com/66698/ : but BE CAREFUL a lot of values are hardcoded for Clip, and specifically firmware v30 (the first one that plays FLAC) |
| 12:21:25 | * | JdGordon wonders how the hell the delta blew out |
| 12:21:51 | JdGordon | which numbers from rockbox-info.txt are the useful ones? binary size or actual size? |
| 12:29:50 | linuxstb | Useful for what? They just say different things. |
| 12:32:08 | JdGordon | for figuring out the delta |
| 12:32:34 | JdGordon | although, they dont differ by much |
| 12:32:48 | funman | weird that the clip's RTC is reset at each reboot, with a positive offset (< 60 seconds) |
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| 12:36:57 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Sorry, I thought you were asking about binsize and ram usage... The "Actual size" is the useful one of those two files, as some files (e.g. the mi4 targets) have padding which can hide deltas. |
| 12:37:18 | JdGordon | ok |
| 12:43:34 | funman | nothing on the i2c registers unfortunately |
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| 12:53:13 | funman | nothing on the pl180 registers either |
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| 13:00:45 | J-23 | hmm, did anybody think about porting Rockbox to Sansa View? |
| 13:01:18 | amiconn | hmpf |
| 13:01:38 | B4gder | J-23: haven't you been around here long enough to know the new port drill? |
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| 13:03:41 | J-23 | B4gder: I don't understand you. |
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| 13:04:23 | B4gder | J-23: there's a sansa view thread in the forums, it should explain it good enough |
| 13:04:56 | J-23 | ok, I'll read it |
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| 13:11:08 | kushal_12_27_200 | I wanted to confirm that rockbox works on sansa c250 works with the latest OF. |
| 13:11:32 | kushal_12_27_200 | so far |
| 13:12:45 | funman | I wonder why a modification of the firmware will causes some data abort, even if the location where the code was modified was not executed yet |
| 13:13:05 | funman | interrupts are disabled, as well as instruction and data caches |
| 13:15:42 | LinusN | funman: well, technically, all code located beyond your change has moved too |
| 13:16:30 | LinusN | if the code size changed, that is |
| 13:16:32 | funman | I am not sure if it happens when I don't do an insert or removal of code |
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| 13:50:59 | B4gder | who knows, one of these days Rockbox might again run an a player actually possible to buy new... |
| 13:51:40 | LambdaCalculus37 | B4gder: Until SanDisk announces new players. ;) |
| 13:52:11 | funman | yeah who knows :( |
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| 13:57:04 | funman | nothing interesting in the GPIO registers |
| 14:00 |
| 14:00:19 | funman | except pl180 registers, power management registers on the i2c bus, and GPIOs I have no idea where to look to find what enables this embedded SD card on the sansav2s |
| 14:01:38 | funman | something else: is there a tool to easily add a model to the LANG files ? editing them one by one is a bit tedious |
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| 14:03:53 | B4gder | I figure you'd write a little script to do it |
| 14:04:12 | * | JdGordon thinks we are going to need a better method for numbering the targets in configure soon |
| 14:04:26 | B4gder | why? |
| 14:04:32 | B4gder | you mean with submenus or similar? |
| 14:04:33 | funman | I usually script in shell, and it's not really suited for text processing. perhaps with python .. |
| 14:04:45 | B4gder | perl rocks with it |
| 14:04:55 | JdGordon | not submenus, but leaving 10 lines for each manufacturer obviously isnt enouhg |
| 14:05:01 | JdGordon | 1 more sansa spot left |
| 14:05:23 | funman | what about 50x (for sansa) ? |
| 14:05:32 | B4gder | JdGordon: well, that number isn't set in stone. We can change them all without affecting any scripts or similar |
| 14:06:15 | JdGordon | well seen as the Tatung port has stalled(?) we could move that and use 50-69 for sansa |
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| 14:07:04 | B4gder | for all I care, they don't have HAVE TO be sequential for each brand |
| 14:07:22 | funman | hum LANG_FM_RADIO is not declared, but I see no model specific translation in *.lang; but "*: none" and radio: "FM Radio". Is "radio" a special flag I should set somewhere ? |
| 14:07:24 | B4gder | you still need to read the menu to figure out the number |
| 14:08:03 | B4gder | funman: that's a "feature" from apps/features.txt |
| 14:08:04 | JdGordon | well.. sequencial is nice |
| 14:08:08 | B4gder | JdGordon: why? |
| 14:08:23 | JdGordon | no reason... it just is |
| 14:08:30 | B4gder | :-) |
| 14:08:43 | JdGordon | is the sansa c100 ams? |
| 14:09:59 | funman | if you have a firmware file it's easy to figure |
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| 14:10:50 | JdGordon | or just search in the file for the target :p no its tcc |
| 14:11:40 | funman | JdGordon: is that the same reason that towers of rockbox are fun ? :) |
| 14:12:16 | JdGordon | hrm? |
| 14:12:29 | funman | forget it :) |
| 14:13:16 | * | JdGordon stops playing with configure and suggests we go hex for when its needed |
| 14:13:57 | funman | you only got 6 extra sequential models though |
| 14:14:19 | JdGordon | well then use the rest of the alphabet once thats exceeded... |
| 14:14:59 | JdGordon | B4gder: do the build scripts use the targets full name or configure number? the e200r target is complety useless and could be removed |
| 14:15:02 | B4gder | actually, I would perhaps rather abandon the "per brand" split and just do all models alfabetically or something |
| 14:15:26 | B4gder | the build scripts use the name version |
| 14:15:57 | linuxstb | We could perhaps have a "Other" section for things like the Elio, Logik DAX etc, and simply squash things up so we don't leave blank lines |
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| 14:16:23 | B4gder | I don't think we should worry too much about renumbering them |
| 14:16:39 | * | JdGordon *thought* the e200r target was useless... its not identical though? |
| 14:17:32 | JdGordon | some people will have build scripts which need the numbers to not change.. |
| 14:18:07 | B4gder | they should be smacked anyway |
| 14:18:21 | B4gder | we introduced the full names in there for exactly that reason |
| 14:18:34 | B4gder | and if we change it often enough, they will learn ;-) |
| 14:18:46 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 14:19:46 | B4gder | but I would assume such cases to be very rare |
| 14:23:35 | * | GodEater idly wonders if B4gder will ever get round to the git/http thing |
| 14:23:51 | funman | what's wrong with it , |
| 14:25:19 | GodEater | the rockbox one isn't accessible via it ? |
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| 14:41:31 | * | n1s hopes JdGordon will add something about the customizable quickscreen to the manual ;) |
| 14:44:25 | * | linuxstb tried it this morning, and finds the long list very hard to navigate, and also hard to associate settings with what they actually do (they're out of context) |
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| 14:44:59 | JdGordon | yes and yes, but once its set its all better |
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| 14:45:46 | * | linuxstb wonders if a context menu for settings items would be easier to use - with options such as "Use as left quickscreen item" |
| 14:46:33 | JdGordon | I'm not so sure... you then have the problem where some settings wont show a context menu when you expect it to? |
| 14:46:52 | JdGordon | that would bring the delta down alot though |
| 14:47:34 | * | linuxstb would also like a "Help" option there, firing up a helpfile viewer, but that needs someone to write the help... |
| 14:48:18 | JdGordon | where would you put the ocntext menu? in the option screen? or in the menus? |
| 14:49:02 | JdGordon | wow! quickscreen uses 5.2K of the binary size |
| 14:49:08 | JdGordon | (e200 build) |
| 14:49:14 | linuxstb | Didn't you write the quickscreen? ;) |
| 14:49:20 | JdGordon | no |
| 14:49:28 | JdGordon | that was around long before I got here |
| 14:49:36 | linuxstb | Or at least, rewrite it with viewports? |
| 14:49:44 | * | JdGordon guilty |
| 14:50:13 | PaulJam | btw, thanks for committing the customiseable quickscreen. (but i have one big problem with this feature: i just can't decide which option to put in there :)) |
| 14:50:21 | JdGordon | haha |
| 14:50:49 | Llorean | JdGordon: If I don't customize, the quickscreen will still work exactly the same as it did before, right? |
| 14:50:57 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 14:51:41 | JdGordon | linuxstb: ok, I'm liking the context menu idea... resetting the screen is another problem with it thougu |
| 14:52:58 | Llorean | Does there need to be a reset? |
| 14:53:28 | JdGordon | there doesnt need to be, but it would be good to have |
| 14:53:45 | linuxstb | I thought a reset would be useful this morning when playing with it... |
| 14:53:56 | linuxstb | But of course nothing is _needed_. |
| 14:54:04 | JdGordon | reset in the list is done... context menu button |
| 14:54:15 | JdGordon | (same as every setting in the standard setting screen) |
| 14:54:15 | Llorean | I mean, if it makes things complicated, and people can still manually set the old ones, I don't see it as being particularly important. |
| 14:54:24 | Llorean | we don't have individual resets for about 99.5% of settings as it is. |
| 14:54:39 | * | JdGordon thinks Llorean should read the manual :D |
| 14:54:44 | JdGordon | although.. thats probaly not even in it |
| 14:54:59 | Llorean | I'm confused. Read the manual about what? |
| 14:55:11 | JdGordon | resetting individual settings |
| 14:55:30 | Llorean | How do you do that? |
| 14:55:38 | JdGordon | context menu button |
| 14:55:46 | JdGordon | it was added ages ago (not by me) |
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| 14:56:14 | Llorean | Strange. |
| 14:56:24 | JdGordon | 17188 sdoyon |
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| 14:59:03 | JdGordon | I have no idea where in the manual that should be mentioned |
| 15:00 |
| 15:02:21 | JdGordon | this obviously isnt my area, but I think WPS tags, config file options and menu overview (although thats a placeholder apparently) shouldnt be in the manual. |
| 15:02:33 | JdGordon | plugins also |
| 15:03:08 | n1s | JdGordon: why not plugins? |
| 15:03:17 | linuxstb | Then where do they belong? |
| 15:03:28 | JdGordon | in the wiki |
| 15:03:47 | linuxstb | But the wiki can't be generated dynamically in a target-specific way. |
| 15:04:01 | pixelma | and then have huge tables about which button does what on each targets? |
| 15:04:09 | JdGordon | ok, plugins can stay then |
| 15:04:38 | n1s | JdGordon: i can't get a context menu for individual settings in a sim, maybe it was broken? |
| 15:05:01 | JdGordon | its not a menu.. change the selection then press the key which usually brings up the context menu |
| 15:05:27 | n1s | JdGordon: aha, yes, that works |
| 15:05:29 | J-23 | hmm, LCD on e200v2/Fuze/Clip, SD tests, codec hacking... what about c200v2? |
| 15:05:29 | * | JdGordon shuts up about the manual and admits half the reason why it shouldnt be in the manual is his fault |
| 15:06:24 | LambdaCalculus37 | J-23: The e200v2 uses the same AS3525 SoC as the Clip and Fuze IIRC. |
| 15:06:56 | B4gder | I don't think anyone around here has a c200v2 |
| 15:07:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | J-23: If you have one, why not help out? |
| 15:07:24 | J-23 | I only have v1 c240 and v2 e280 |
| 15:08:18 | LambdaCalculus37 | J-23: Some info here: http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/v2.html |
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| 15:29:21 | Spida | hi |
| 15:29:57 | Spida | which harddisks can I use in an iriver h340 to replace the original with a larger one? |
| 15:30:34 | linuxstb | See http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/HardDriveReplacement |
| 15:31:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | Spida: You can also look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CFModGuide if you're interested in a CompactFlash mod. |
| 15:32:10 | Spida | LambdaCalculus37: I don't beliefe there is a CF card that is affordable and larger than the original 40gb hdd |
| 15:32:13 | Spida | :-) |
| 15:32:16 | J-23 | anything new to test on e200v2? |
| 15:32:34 | J-23 | ahh, nvm. |
| 15:33:49 | J-23 | hmm, /home/Moarc/rockbox/firmware/export/system.h:119:1: warning: "htobe32" redefined |
| 15:34:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | Spida: Regardless, it's still a good mod to know about. |
| 15:34:11 | Spida | LambdaCalculus37: yes. |
| 15:34:21 | J-23 | and "/home/Moarc/rockbox/firmware/export/system.h:118:1: warning: "htobe16" redefined" when compiling e200v2 simulator |
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| 15:35:05 | J-23 | previous definitions were at lines 64 and 69 of /usr/include/endian.h |
| 15:35:06 | n1s | J-23: gcc usually tells you where the original definition was |
| 15:35:11 | n1s | ah |
| 15:35:20 | Spida | or is there any player that is similar to the h340? |
| 15:35:45 | n1s | Spida: depends on what you are looking for |
| 15:35:49 | LambdaCalculus37 | Spida: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide |
| 15:35:58 | B4gder | Spida: most players are similar to it in some aspects |
| 15:36:48 | Spida | mp3+ogg+flac,usb device+host port, radio, color display, recording capability, >= 40GB |
| 15:37:27 | B4gder | I can only think of the x5 then |
| 15:37:28 | n1s | Spida: rockbox plays mp3, ogg and flac on _all_ swcodec targets |
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| 15:39:23 | n1s | but yes, i think B4gder nailed it, x5 and h300 are the only rockbox targets with those features |
| 15:40:35 | B4gder | whoo, scary commit! |
| 15:40:57 | Zagor | it's halloween, isn't it? ;) |
| 15:40:58 | n1s | J-23: where is endian.h included? |
| 15:41:35 | J-23 | I'll paste whole output |
| 15:41:47 | J-23 | http://pastebin.com/d71dbae29 |
| 15:41:56 | n1s | Zagor: great work, that bug was a pain :) |
| 15:44:04 | Zagor | I realized there was an option c) I hadn't thought of. This commit is it. |
| 15:44:59 | n1s | J-23: are you on BSD by any chance? |
| 15:45:17 | J-23 | no, Fedora 10 |
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| 15:49:04 | B4gder | my debian /usr/include/endian.h certainly doesn't define those macros |
| 15:49:19 | B4gder | Zagor: 4 reds |
| 15:49:40 | Zagor | yup, I noticed |
| 15:50:36 | Zagor | ah, I don't handle ENABLEDPLUGINS properly |
| 15:51:56 | Spida | B4gder, LambdaCalculus37: so, do you know which hdds work in the h340 that are still available and larger than the original? |
| 15:52:32 | n1s | Spida: the ones mentioned on that page? |
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| 15:52:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | Spida: The page linuxstb mentioned has all of the information you'll need. |
| 15:53:11 | n1s | the connector is very important since there are quite a few different ones |
| 15:53:16 | GodEater | indeed all the information we possess |
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| 15:54:09 | B4gder | "still available" is of course your job to find out |
| 15:54:32 | petur | Spida: MK8007GAH (80GB) or MK6006GAH (60GB) |
| 15:54:40 | petur | search on ebay... |
| 15:55:05 | petur | the 60GB is somewhat cheap, the 80GB stays quite expensive |
| 15:55:18 | petur | I have the 80GB and a CF-modded |
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| 15:56:18 | * | petur finds lots of 64GB CF cards announced but not on sale |
| 15:56:49 | petur | hmmm and 100GB CF too |
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| 16:01:19 | DerPapst | 100GB CF o.O |
| 16:01:51 | DerPapst | i bet those are expensive as hell ;) |
| 16:04:06 | B4gder | nooo, vaporware are always cheap! ;-) |
| 16:04:29 | J-23 | What CPU's are mounted in v2 players and what frequency they work on? |
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| 16:04:36 | J-23 | s/on/at/ |
| 16:05:34 | B4gder | AS3525 at 250MHz |
| 16:05:58 | J-23 | can it be overclocked? ;) |
| 16:06:10 | LambdaCalculus37 | AS3525 at 250MHz should be quite powerful enough to handle most of the codecs. :) |
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| 16:06:29 | * | LambdaCalculus37 prepares for any Monkey's Audio comments ;) |
| 16:06:55 | Zagor | pixelma: can you try some cygwin builds with my latest commits? |
| 16:08:25 | * | DerPapst tries to compile a 5G sim on cygwin currently. |
| 16:08:33 | J-23 | LambdaCalculus37: yes, but I think about more than codecs ;) |
| 16:09:00 | soap | Bagder, if you answered me before I apologize for missing it... but is the reason my build server only gets half the work-units of many others because of my slowish upload speed or something else? |
| 16:09:01 | DerPapst | J-23: Doom 3? |
| 16:09:07 | DerPapst | :P |
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| 16:09:31 | J-23 | KDE4 with KWin effects :p |
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| 16:09:40 | DerPapst | yay! :D |
| 16:09:42 | soap | http://build.rockbox.org/cvsmod/serv-20081103T145611Z.html for example. I only built for less than half the time of the average server. |
| 16:09:44 | J-23 | hmm, e.g. cryptography |
| 16:09:51 | B4gder | soap: most probably, yes. The build log should tell... |
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| 16:10:16 | DerPapst | uh... |
| 16:10:23 | LambdaCalculus37 | DerPapst: No, we're saving Doom 3 for the iPod Classic port along with Duke Nukem Forever. :D |
| 16:10:42 | DerPapst | hah. even better ;) |
| 16:11:28 | B4gder | soap: in the most latest round for example, roughly 60 seconds were spent on transfer from your server |
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| 16:12:15 | B4gder | maybe the server stats page should better show transfer times... |
| 16:12:29 | soap | No, tht' |
| 16:12:36 | soap | that's fine - I was just curious. |
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| 16:12:45 | gevaerts | Yes. Someone should add that |
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| 16:13:24 | B4gder | "dear mr Someone, we suggest you start working on your tasks soon, the list is getting big" |
| 16:13:28 | soap | perhaps I should build just sims since my build speed outweighs my upload speed. |
| 16:13:44 | DerPapst | haha :D |
| 16:14:15 | B4gder | soap: is the sdl builds working on your host? I have them disabled there I noticed now |
| 16:14:16 | n1s | jhMikeS: any idea which GPIO pin(s) are connected to the tuner on the beast? |
| 16:14:50 | soap | B4gder, the issues I had with sdl builds were the result of a bad stick of RAM, we believe. |
| 16:14:55 | B4gder | ah ok |
| 16:15:01 | B4gder | I'll re-enable at once |
| 16:15:18 | soap | now we'll see how faulty my assumption ws ;) |
| 16:15:34 | soap | aarrgghh, can't type today. ...my assumption was. |
| 16:15:55 | B4gder | (the enable/disable certain builds and servers is actually really nicely done in this system...) |
| 16:16:01 | n1s | Zagor: if you stick a "FS" in front of the tak numbers in commit messages like "FS #1234" the funky script will make it a link on the frontpage :) |
| 16:16:32 | Zagor | I'll fix the script :) |
| 16:16:50 | n1s | B4gder: are you interested in more servers? |
| 16:17:02 | DerPapst | heh.. while talking of script fixing.. have you looked at my irc reader patch? |
| 16:17:12 | B4gder | n1s: always! |
| 16:17:25 | Zagor | DerPapst: oh right, that was, um, a while ago... |
| 16:17:45 | DerPapst | hehe :) do you still have the diff somewhere? |
| 16:17:56 | n1s | B4gder: i will see if my "server" box meets the criteria then! |
| 16:18:14 | Zagor | DerPapst: I guess the pastebin has timed out, so please put it in flyspray |
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| 16:18:28 | B4gder | n1s: if not, we won't mind you getting a new and faster one! :-P |
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| 16:18:56 | DerPapst | iirc i said "keep forever" if you still have the link. but i can put it on flyspray of course |
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| 16:20:46 | GodEater | B4gder: don't forget "with a bigger internet connection" |
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| 16:21:26 | n1s | my connection is supposed to be 10/10 so i think it should be fine, I'm also less than 100km from the buildmaster |
| 16:21:38 | * | linuxstb wants a connection to the bigger internet |
| 16:21:38 | soap | Bagder, logged into the rbclient account and built a sim w/o errors just now. |
| 16:21:51 | B4gder | goodie |
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| 16:22:31 | GodEater | B4gder: hypothetically, what happens when we have more build servers than targets (i.e. 1 per sim, bootloader, etc. for each target) ? |
| 16:22:49 | soap | duh, we add more targets. |
| 16:23:03 | LambdaCalculus37 | GodEater: We will end up unraveling the universe. :) |
| 16:23:10 | B4gder | GodEater: assuming all servers are up, the last ones will just idle |
| 16:23:21 | GodEater | "last ones" being defined as what? |
| 16:23:26 | GodEater | last in your actual list ? |
| 16:23:28 | B4gder | yes |
| 16:23:31 | LambdaCalculus37 | Or "last in line"? |
| 16:23:41 | B4gder | or I'll randomize the list to make it a funnier game |
| 16:23:47 | GodEater | so some sort of round robin in the selection script would be in order |
| 16:23:55 | soap | if if if |
| 16:24:08 | B4gder | assuming we have that many servers, we can just discard the slowest ones... .-) |
| 16:24:19 | GodEater | I was thinking the same |
| 16:24:22 | DerPapst | Zagor: flyspray is missing a www category. where do you want me to add it? "User Interface" or doesn't matter? |
| 16:24:23 | GodEater | we should score the ones we have :) |
| 16:24:47 | soap | I think the ones we have get scored every build. |
| 16:24:48 | B4gder | GodEater: the tricky part with that is that we'd need to do the scoring over multiple builds |
| 16:25:02 | GodEater | s/tricky/interesting :) |
| 16:25:04 | B4gder | to get a fair score at least |
| 16:25:06 | Zagor | DerPapst: good question. sursprise me! :) |
| 16:25:08 | B4gder | haha |
| 16:25:15 | * | GodEater adds this to Mr. Someone's list |
| 16:25:25 | GodEater | low down mind you, we don't have enough build servers yet |
| 16:25:31 | * | linuxstb thinks Mr Someone has better things to do |
| 16:25:44 | GodEater | that's why it's at the bottom of his list |
| 16:25:58 | soap | and if funman has his way we'll soon have a 5:1 ratio between builds and build servers. ;) |
| 16:26:00 | * | linuxstb needs to start protecting Mr Someone from being overwhelmed |
| 16:26:12 | GodEater | we need to get more build servers |
| 16:26:34 | B4gder | 83 servers, then we're game |
| 16:26:42 | B4gder | only 61 to go |
| 16:27:07 | * | linuxstb thinks Mr Someone can relax about that task |
| 16:27:08 | GodEater | wow - we have 22 now ? That's good progress |
| 16:27:18 | B4gder | 22 alive ones, there are some dead too |
| 16:27:38 | * | GodEater goes to check to make sure his isn't one of the dead ones |
| 16:27:55 | B4gder | hm, a yellow italian commit |
| 16:28:23 | GodEater | wow - oldsch00l is a bit slow |
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| 16:29:29 | B4gder | maybe I should switch off sdl builds from that |
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| 16:29:50 | GodEater | do we actually distribute them? |
| 16:29:56 | GodEater | or are they just to check they still compile ? |
| 16:30:05 | B4gder | they're only built yes |
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| 16:31:51 | B4gder | ok, I disabled sdl builds on oldsch00l |
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| 16:33:37 | * | amiconn reminds B4gder of the speculative parallel build idea |
| 16:33:51 | GodEater | more work for Mr. Someone |
| 16:33:54 | B4gder | indeed |
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| 16:34:16 | B4gder | speculative parallell and transfer-while-next-is-building are two good ideas |
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| 16:34:55 | DerPapst | Zagor: FS #9523 :) |
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| 16:43:53 | Zagor | DerPapst: rejecting patches is always a delicate matter |
| 16:50:43 | * | n1s wonders what one has to do to get that little logo next to ones nick in the irc logs |
| 16:51:27 | B4gder | the usual: bribes, beer and threaten people with violence |
| 16:52:08 | * | n1s sticks a couple of stamps on a beerbottle |
| 16:52:25 | B4gder | Zagor is the boss of that magic |
| 16:52:26 | * | LambdaCalculus37 buys a crate of beer and airmails it to Sweden |
| 16:52:49 | * | LambdaCalculus37 buys Zagor a lifetime supply of beer ;) |
| 16:53:38 | Zagor | n1s: fixed |
| 16:53:51 | n1s | yay \o/ |
| 16:55:13 | B4gder | that beer arrived fast! |
| 16:55:25 | LambdaCalculus37 | n1s: Are you talking about the little icon that indicates commit access? |
| 16:55:49 | DerPapst | Zagor: i fear i don't get what you mean... |
| 16:56:00 | n1s | LambdaCalculus37: yes, but frankly i have no idea what it indicates :) |
| 16:56:22 | LambdaCalculus37 | n1s: Just that you have commit access. :) |
| 16:56:30 | * | LambdaCalculus37 hasn't got one next to his name either |
| 16:56:32 | Zagor | DerPapst: oh, I misunderstood. never mind then. |
| 16:56:46 | DerPapst | ok :) |
| 16:57:49 | LambdaCalculus37 | And I have commit access. |
| 16:58:16 | Zagor | LambdaCalculus37: I didn't find you in the commit list. what is your commit username? |
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| 16:58:29 | LambdaCalculus37 | Zagor: rmenes. |
| 16:58:54 | Zagor | I guess my list is broken... |
| 16:59:10 | DerPapst | i'm not in the commit list. may i get that icon too? :P |
| 16:59:20 | n1s | ok, the "server" box builds a h300 sim in less that 100 seconds so i guess it's time to set up some dyndns stuff etc |
| 16:59:29 | LambdaCalculus37 | DerPapst: Better have plenty of beer to send to Sweden. ;) |
| 16:59:34 | n1s | s/that/than/ |
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| 17:00:06 | B4gder | n1s: great! |
| 17:00:09 | Zagor | LambdaCalculus37: fixed. I need to change the way this is done. |
| 17:00:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | Zagor: Thanks. :) |
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| 17:34:49 | webguest26 | excuse me! |
| 17:35:05 | B4gder | sure, but don't do it again! |
| 17:35:15 | webguest26 | I was wondering ... |
| 17:35:26 | B4gder | just ask |
| 17:35:52 | webguest26 | does rockbox nulify warrenty on the peurchased items? |
| 17:35:56 | webguest26 | thanks |
| 17:36:09 | webguest26 | mp3 |
| 17:36:09 | DerPapst | no, you're welcome |
| 17:36:24 | webguest26 | realy it doesn't! |
| 17:36:26 | B4gder | webguest26: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GeneralFAQ#Does_it_void_my_warranty_if_I_us |
| 17:36:29 | webguest26 | sweet |
| 17:36:36 | B4gder | yes it most likely does |
| 17:36:41 | B4gder | ask your vendor |
| 17:36:43 | webguest26 | oh! |
| 17:37:00 | webguest26 | sigh! thanks |
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| 17:38:27 | DerPapst | heh. didn't know. |
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| 17:39:32 | webguest26 | this sucks then. |
| 17:40:03 | webguest26 | I was thinking of purchasing a new mp3 especially for that purpose |
| 17:40:22 | webguest26 | now, I'll have to reconsider |
| 17:40:36 | webguest26 | mmmm |
| 17:40:43 | DerPapst | i guess if something goes wrong and you're still able to restore it it's fine. |
| 17:40:53 | webguest26 | well, is there a way to reverse the effect? |
| 17:41:10 | webguest26 | or will they be able to trace it? |
| 17:41:32 | DerPapst | depends on the device i guess |
| 17:41:48 | webguest26 | hmmm .. |
| 17:41:57 | webguest26 | trouble some |
| 17:42:20 | webguest26 | I'll be getting a sansa fuze |
| 17:42:34 | webguest26 | 70$ |
| 17:42:42 | DerPapst | dunno then. |
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| 17:42:49 | webguest26 | $_$ |
| 17:43:08 | webguest26 | Hey, one sec. |
| 17:43:15 | webguest26 | what he said ... |
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| 17:43:26 | webguest26 | does it void the warrenty. |
| 17:43:30 | DerPapst | wait a bit until someone can answer that question or check the rockbox wiki for the fuze |
| 17:43:44 | webguest26 | or the terms of service as well? |
| 17:43:53 | Llorean | Whether or not it voids the warranty depends entirely on what the warranty itself says. |
| 17:44:06 | webguest26 | well, I know the fuze is not supported yet. |
| 17:44:19 | Llorean | Since manufacturers often change them, and you may have other warranties depending on where you purchase it, this is something you'll have to find out between yourself and wherever you get the hardware. |
| 17:45:08 | webguest26 | well, most warrenties discuus modification and tampering with the product |
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| 17:45:39 | webguest26 | so aiming for a shot in that direction is almost far fetched |
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| 17:46:12 | webguest26 | I know, i'll purchase the fuze |
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| 17:46:27 | webguest26 | and by the time the new build is released |
| 17:46:35 | Llorean | webguest26: Again, this is not a question we can answer for you. Read the warranty yourself, and ask them if they consider installing Rockbox a violation of it. |
| 17:46:45 | webguest26 | the warrenty would have expired .. |
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| 17:47:24 | webguest26 | okay, thank you very much then |
| 17:47:31 | webguest26 | been a lot of help |
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| 18:43:47 | * | pixelma doesn't see the point in those button tables in the plugin wiki pages |
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| 18:45:04 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: I think they were just added for quick reference, but do you have any objections to removing them? |
| 18:46:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | I'm thinking that since all of the button maps are listed in each manual, we should just leave that information there and remove it from the wiki, keeping those pages as description-only pages. |
| 18:46:29 | pixelma | they are in not very readable (and would be less if they would be filled out completely which they are usually not by far). The info is in the manuals and there you'll only see target specific things |
| 18:46:56 | linuxstb | Should we slowly replace each Plugin* page with a link to http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml - as long as the manual entry contains all the same information? |
| 18:47:41 | pixelma | if I remember correctly, that issue was discussed at DevCon and more or less agreed on that we shouldn't have duplicate information, which is also harder to maintain |
| 18:47:53 | LambdaCalculus37 | And as long as all appropriate plugins are also in the appropriate manual(s). |
| 18:48:23 | linuxstb | That's what I mean - prior to removing the content of the Plugin* page, the manual entry for that plugin would need to be checked... |
| 18:49:04 | LambdaCalculus37 | I agree there. |
| 18:49:19 | pixelma | sure, and I know a few aren't in the manuals yet |
| 18:49:52 | pixelma | more work for Mr. Someone ;) |
| 18:50:01 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: Which ones aren't in the manual? |
| 18:51:04 | pixelma | e.g. Rockpaint as a recent forum thread mentions, or the settings dumper one... |
| 18:52:38 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: Looking at the Rockpaint Plugin page right now; we may need screencaps of all the appropriate sizes, and key mappings. |
| 18:53:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | Other than that, I think we can just copy the information to a new manual entry. |
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| 18:54:25 | LambdaCalculus37 | Or on second thought... no, we'll have to do some tweaking; the info on the PluginRockpaint page appears to cover iPod-specific control info. |
| 18:59:51 | pixelma | where? |
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| 19:01:21 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: Actually, I take that back. Not iPod-specific, but the sentences "The cursor is moved using the 4 direction keys. Use the "select" (or "ff" on h10) button to draw." have to be changed, of course. |
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| 19:02:30 | pixelma | you can even mention the correct button for each target there |
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| 19:08:42 | LambdaCalculus37 | Bagder: Do you think that the new Sansapatcher versions posted at FS #9369 are ready to go up onto the master server? |
| 19:10:46 | * | gevaerts decides to write a ramdisk driver for rockbox |
| 19:12:00 | DerPapst | yay? |
| 19:12:28 | gevaerts | There are real reasons for it :) |
| 19:12:44 | DerPapst | for example? |
| 19:13:15 | pixelma | striving for a new record? ;) |
| 19:13:41 | gevaerts | I'm actually working on support for targets to have more than one different storage drivers. Therefore, I need a device that does have more than one type of storage :) |
| 19:14:07 | gevaerts | pixelma: I think I'll have a hard time improving my current one :) |
| 19:14:11 | DerPapst | ah ok :) |
| 19:14:26 | DerPapst | you beat them all :D |
| 19:14:40 | gevaerts | Ramdisk is the obvious candidate, and it may be useful for ports in progress as well, so why not? |
| 19:14:42 | DerPapst | hmm.. should have used past no? |
| 19:14:53 | DerPapst | go for it! |
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| 19:16:53 | * | amiconn would prefer an usb host driver for H300 instead |
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| 19:18:53 | gevaerts | amiconn: that will need multi-driver storage to be really useful anyway |
| 19:19:12 | amiconn | Yes, exactly |
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| 19:20:56 | gevaerts | Anyway the ramdisk driver should be really easy to do, so it's a good starting point |
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| 20:09:07 | bertrik | the bit-banged transfer algorithm I found yesterday in the fuze looks very much like I2C |
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| 20:51:34 | kugel | bertrik: do you already have found something to do with buttons? :) |
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| 20:57:15 | bertrik | no, was looking for that (really!) but found the i2c instead :P |
| 20:57:37 | bertrik | maybe, just maybe, the buttons are read through i2c |
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| 21:22:39 | * | gevaerts grumbles about the lack of FAT12 support in rockbox |
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| 21:23:38 | LambdaCalculus37 | gevaerts: Who the hell uses FAT12 nowadays? |
| 21:24:08 | gevaerts | LambdaCalculus37: I do :) Seriously though, that's what I get if I format an 8MB disk |
| 21:26:57 | linuxstb | gevaerts: A 16MB disk seems to format OK as FAT16. |
| 21:27:01 | rasher | gevaerts: from a bit of googling, it seems that fat16 should work for your 8MiB disk. |
| 21:27:13 | rasher | Although you may have to force the issue |
| 21:27:29 | * | LambdaCalculus37 has used FAT16 on floppies with success |
| 21:28:00 | * | gevaerts manages to format it as FAT32 :) |
| 21:28:00 | linuxstb | With an 8MB disk, mkfs.vfat will format it as FAT16, but gives the message "WARNING: Not enough clusters for a 16 bit FAT! The filesystem will be misinterpreted as having a 12 bit FAT without mount option "fat=16". |
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| 21:29:42 | gevaerts | #define TEST_FAT should also be helpful |
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| 21:33:00 | n1s | Bagder: IIUC you can now add dryice.dyndns.org to the server farm |
| 21:33:26 | amiconn | gevaerts: A FAT16 volume must have at least 4085 clusters or it deviates from specs and will be misinterpreted as FAT12 |
| 21:34:06 | amiconn | Minimum cluster size is one sector, so if you format this way, a FAT16 volume can be as small as 2MiB |
| 21:34:43 | gevaerts | amiconn: I found that out now. I'm now using FAT32 with too few clusters, and TEST_FAT defined to override the check |
| 21:35:01 | amiconn | That's nasty stuff |
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| 21:35:53 | amiconn | If you present such a volume via USB, windows *will* misinterpret it |
| 21:37:17 | gevaerts | I'm not trying the one-sector-cluster solution. That looks a lot more sane |
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| 21:38:01 | gevaerts | s/not/now/ |
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| 21:42:45 | kugel | bertrik: uh, aren't we already using i2c? |
| 21:43:36 | bertrik | kugel, yes, but it's possible to have multiple i2c buses |
| 21:44:04 | kugel | what does the datasheet tell you? |
| 21:44:25 | rasher | Any objections to adding a (hidden?) "all" option to rockboxdev.sh? |
| 21:44:55 | * | gevaerts grumbles |
| 21:44:55 | gevaerts | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/home/fg/software/rockbox-multidriver/build/bitmaps/rockboxlogo.h', needed by `/home/fg/software/rockbox-multidriver/build/apps/alarm_menu.o'. Stop. |
| 21:45:00 | bertrik | I have no datasheet of this part, this i2c bus is 'bit-banged' meaning it uses GPIOs to send read individual bits |
| 21:46:22 | gevaerts | make bin is broken |
| 21:46:24 | amiconn | gevaerts: Latest svn and 'make clean' before? |
| 21:46:41 | gevaerts | amiconn: full make works. make bin doesn't |
| 21:52:51 | Lear | works with the sim on cygwin at least... :) |
| 21:53:07 | gevaerts | After make clean? |
| 21:53:35 | Lear | I did a full make in between... |
| 21:53:49 | gevaerts | It works after a full make |
| 21:54:33 | rasher | Make bin works for a normal player build |
| 21:55:32 | gevaerts | It doesn't work for me |
| 21:56:00 | rasher | Oh wait, I haven't svn upped in a while |
| 21:56:58 | rasher | Ah yes, there we go |
| 21:57:22 | rasher | So it was broken recently (within the last week or so) |
| 21:57:49 | gevaerts | My guess is that Zagor broke it while fixing the cygwin build issues |
| 21:57:52 | n1s | Zagor: committed a buildsystem change today |
| 21:58:25 | n1s | It's quite interesting how fixing one thing keeps on breaking something else... |
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| 22:02:35 | Lear | But this sounds fixable by adding a dependency to the bin target... |
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| 22:15:26 | * | gevaerts runs rockbox on a 4MB ipod mini :) |
| 22:16:44 | rasher | I hope you put some music on it! |
| 22:17:20 | gevaerts | Of course. I had 790KB free after installing rockbox! |
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| 22:33:56 | DerPapst | heh |
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| 22:40:46 | gevaerts | I'd vote to remove dircache, tagcache, and max. files settings from the quickscreen choices |
| 22:42:05 | linuxstb | I guess that goes for any setting that requires a reboot. |
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| 22:43:44 | gevaerts | Yes, although I'd also throw these out if they didn't require a reboot |
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| 22:58:27 | funman | do you know where I can a list of the bits in the program status register of ARM ? (can't find it on google/arm.com) |
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| 23:00:50 | funman | http://www.heyrick.co.uk/assembler/psr.html < here it is |
| 23:01:55 | gevaerts | Any opinions on removing the partition offset handling from fat.c and moving it to a volume layer near storage? /me is thinking aloud |
| 23:03:25 | bertrik | sounds like a sound plan |
| 23:05:48 | n1s | Bagder: I think my server is now good to go, dryice.dyndns.org |
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| 23:07:11 | funman | bertrik: did you see there is a driver in rockbox for a (hopefully similar) FM device with nearly the same ID number ? |
| 23:07:22 | funman | (than the FM device in the Clip,that is) |
| 23:07:53 | bertrik | no didn't see that |
| 23:08:09 | Bagder | n1s: hm, I can't connect to it with ssh nor ping it |
| 23:08:10 | bertrik | someone mentioned the radio chip of the beast IIRC |
| 23:08:20 | Norrin | Hello all. I have a Jukebox FM Recorder which is no longer working correctly and was curious if anyone knew of a repair service for them. |
| 23:08:36 | gevaerts | n1s: you forgot to mention the port :) |
| 23:08:55 | n1s | Bagder: ah, port 2222 |
| 23:08:58 | Bagder | ah |
| 23:09:02 | funman | bertrik: ah no I'm wrong .. it's the same than fuze & e200v2 :'( |
| 23:09:13 | Norrin | I had 2.5 loaded and when you push the on button, you can hear the HD spin up and sometimes the RockBox Logo appears but nothing else happens. The rescue boot doesn't do anything either. |
| 23:09:31 | funman | SI470x - but I don't see any driver written for it |
| 23:09:38 | Norrin | I've tried other HDs but nothing appears to work. |
| 23:09:52 | n1s | Norrin: are the batteries good? |
| 23:10:33 | preglow | gevaerts: looking forward to reviewing your storage driver changes :) |
| 23:10:36 | bertrik | funman, I was just thinking about how to write a driver for this family of radio chips and keep it generic so it can be reused |
| 23:10:38 | Bagder | n1s: all compilers and sdl installed? |
| 23:10:48 | Norrin | I think so. I've even tried with the unit plugged in and it doesn't seem to matter. |
| 23:11:00 | funman | bertrik: sounds like a good plan |
| 23:11:01 | Norrin | How can I tell if the batteries are good or not? |
| 23:11:02 | bertrik | the beast has a si4700 |
| 23:11:04 | n1s | Bagder: yes, (not mipsel but i can add that if needed) |
| 23:11:16 | Bagder | mispel isn't used (yet) |
| 23:11:25 | Bagder | mipsel even |
| 23:11:36 | funman | ok, I was just grepping the config-*.h files to look for CONFIG_TUNER |
| 23:12:22 | gevaerts | preglow: they're not very useful yet. I'm just starting on the real work, i.e. actually supporting multiple drivers |
| 23:12:46 | n1s | Norrin: do they take charge are reasonably new etc? Another thing to check is the battery contacts, are they clean, maybe band them slightly to increase contact pressure (I am assuming this is an archos device) |
| 23:13:02 | * | gevaerts hopes to have that done in a week or so |
| 23:13:44 | pixelma | n1s: the FM-Recorder has Li batteries |
| 23:13:54 | Norrin | yep, archos FM recorder V1. All looks like normal when I plug it in. Just like it has in the past. |
| 23:14:13 | Norrin | Yep, the two that lay side by side. |
| 23:14:24 | Bagder | n1s: your server has been added, now all we need is a commit to see it get to work! |
| 23:14:47 | n1s | Bagder: ok, I'll se if i can come up with something :) |
| 23:15:39 | funman | bertrik: did you see we can hijack the OF init (well, before IRAM is filled up) and branch to our code? |
| 23:16:37 | bertrik | I read you were working on it, so it works now? great! |
| 23:17:05 | funman | 'works' sometimes, I can't get the code/the display working everytime |
| 23:17:41 | funman | I made the button led blink in my main() and I see it 9 times out of 10, but sometimes I jut can't get dispay - so I modify the code until it works (data abort/unhandled interrupt probably) |
| 23:17:47 | bertrik | I'm still a bit confused about some pins that seem to have a double (triple?) function |
| 23:18:06 | funman | well it's selectable by the as3525 registers |
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| 23:18:32 | bertrik | but I would expect it to be fixed at initialisation |
| 23:18:49 | funman | right |
| 23:19:21 | bertrik | SansaFuze should have a wiki I think |
| 23:19:33 | LambdaCalculus37 | bertrik: Go for it. ;) |
| 23:20:05 | * | gevaerts wonders if a CPP wizzard can come up with a way to generate functions like http://pastebin.ca/1244384 for all storage_* |
| 23:20:47 | funman | gevaerts: ## ? |
| 23:21:38 | gevaerts | funman: I'm sure that it will be a bit more complicated than that :) |
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| 23:24:28 | funman | perhaps the buggy part is when I copy the bootloader from 0x30000 (where it's linked to) to 0 (to get the exception vectors in place instead of the OF's ones) |
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| 23:29:41 | funman | yep I get better results now |
| 23:29:50 | funman | still I don't know what to look for |
| 23:31:09 | bertrik | can you read all GPIO settings (direction, value, afsel, etc.) and all CCU spares? |
| 23:31:25 | funman | ah I forgot about CCU_SPARE |
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| 23:32:10 | funman | I read the gpio already and they show nothing we don't set in the lcd init routine |
| 23:34:07 | funman | it shows what we knew already (bit 2 of ccu_spare1 set) |
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| 23:35:34 | bertrik | ok. what about CCU_IO. I see bit 7:8 has something to do with chip enables |
| 23:35:47 | funman | bit 2 set (sdmci interface selected) |
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| 23:49:57 | n1s | Bagder: what do you think of a change in this style, it makes a "make install" of a sim twice as fast for me, http://pastebin.ca/1244419 the problem is that when doing it like this the @APPS@ is not replaced by sed, would it be ok to hardcode "apps" here or should i mess with the logic to place it inside the block sed is operating on? |
| 23:52:29 | Bagder | well, @APPS@ is always apps so we could in fact remove the entire @APPS@ thing |
| 23:52:47 | Bagder | but then I'm not seeing how your change does the same thing as before |
| 23:52:53 | funman | can Someone look at FS #9521 (bicolor simulator screen for the Clip) ? |
| 23:53:20 | Bagder | ie it does a fullzip today and your change doesn't, isn't that a good explanation to some of the speed diff? |
| 23:53:27 | funman | I'm not sure how to insert 2 black lines between the 2 regions however, and not sure if it's needed since the colors clearly show the separation |
| 23:53:49 | Bagder | funman: such a fix could always be done at a later time anyway |
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| 23:54:21 | n1s | Bagder: my change does the same as fullzip but with -z "zip -r0" so that zip is not actually compressing the files and the extracting them |
| 23:54:32 | n1s | then |
| 23:54:36 | Bagder | ah |
| 23:54:47 | rasher | Do we have make tar still? |
| 23:55:09 | Bagder | we do |
| 23:55:19 | rasher | Might it not be simpler to use that? |
| 23:56:09 | n1s | rasher: simpler how? |
| 23:56:11 | Bagder | it could possibly be faster to not store the intermediate file at all but just pipe it |
| 23:56:26 | Bagder | n1s: simpler because you don't include the same logic once again |
| 23:56:41 | rasher | What Bagder said |
| 23:56:44 | n1s | aha |
| 23:57:13 | * | n1s tries |
| 23:58:39 | linuxstb | How does buildzip actually work? Does it create a (temporary) .rockbox directory and copy the files into it? In which case... |
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