Previous day | Jump to hour: 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 | Next day

Seconds: Show Hide | Joins: Show Hide | View raw
Font: Serif Sans-Serif Monospace | Size: Small Medium Large

Click in the nick column to highlight everything a person has said.
The Logo icon identifies that the person is a core developer (has commit access).

Notice: Only Gecko based browsers prior to FF4 support the multipart/mixed "server push" method used by this log reader to auto-update. Since you do not appear to use such a browser, this page will simply show the current log, and not automatically update.

#rockbox log for 2008-11-08

00:00:26fmlkugel: I wouldn't typedef a primitive. Not in C, at least.
00:01:36 Quit bmbl ("Woah!")
00:01:57kugelyou won't, other would. Noone can know that when he first looks at a type
00:02:29kugelI still don't get why some buttons don't work in my fuze sim :(
00:03:26*gevaerts wonders what this "minor but still > 0" gain is from a typedef
00:04:32kugelgevaerts: did I guess your arguments right at least? :p
00:05:12gevaertskugel: typedefing just hides things. What's that good for?
00:05:17 Quit petur ("battery empty")
00:05:26kugelso, yes i did. cool
00:05:48kugelgevaerts: do you have an idea why some buttons don't work in my fuze sim? especially the home button
00:05:58gevaertsHow should I know?
00:06:08 Quit Llorean (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
00:06:33 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-242-15-169.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net)
00:07:11kugelno idea
00:08:12*kugel wonders how long lambda takes to be at home
00:08:12gevaertsAnd no, you didn't guess my reasons entirely :) If you work with code, you need to know what things do anyway, so you have to look it up regardless.
00:08:23kugel:(
00:09:07gevaertsBut that doesn't matter. I'm not the one who put that rule in CONTRIBUTING
00:09:13kugelbut the typedef hides things, so you need to look up even more/more often
00:09:37kugelah forget it
00:10:32 Quit miepchen^schlaf ()
00:10:48gevaertsI think it doesn't actually _add_ anything (in the common struct case anyway), so why use it?
00:11:13*gevaerts still waits for fml to comment :)
00:12:53 Quit bertrik ("GOTO sleep")
00:13:09 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey)
00:13:10 Quit massiveH ("Leaving")
00:16:31*kugel facepalms
00:23:43kugelgevaerts: would you please close fs#9512? I'm gonna post the fuze sim in a seperate entry
00:26:58gevaertskugel: done. And now goodnight!
00:27:13 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving")
00:27:31 Join webguest77 [0] (n=4857c19b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-936d0d2605b13dec)
00:27:34 Nick soap_ is now known as soap (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap)
00:27:55 Join webguest91 [0] (n=4857c19b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-fd3760ed9d062216)
00:28:09kugelgevaerts: good night
00:28:29 Part rief
00:29:01webguest91Would anyone know why my archos recorder no longer has sound...unless I go all the back to to version 2.3?
00:32:56 Quit webguest77 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)")
00:36:10 Quit DataGhost (Nick collision from services.)
00:36:18 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost)
00:36:35 Join ender1 [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org)
00:38:34 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECCCE.dip.t-dialin.net)
00:38:44 Quit webguest91 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)")
00:40:14 Quit ender` (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
00:44:46fmlgevaerts: IMHO using typedefs for structs unifies code. I.e. you always have <type> <var>, with type being one word. This is of course a tiny bit.
00:49:52 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)")
00:50:19 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008101315]")
00:52:47 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel)
00:53:16 Quit krazykit ("Connection reset by beer")
00:57:50 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.)
00:57:50 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
00:57:53 Join DerDome1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-245-238.pools.arcor-ip.net)
00:58:05 Nick DerDome1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-245-238.pools.arcor-ip.net)
01:00
01:00:43 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS)
01:09:37 Quit PaulJam (".")
01:17:05 Join woli [0] (n=woli@ip254-10.ct.co.cr)
01:17:13woliis it possible to make the text in the theme biggeR?
01:33:02Unhelpfulwoli: select a larger font. that might break things, depending on the design of the wps you're using.
01:39:14 Quit lasser (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
01:40:55 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.")
01:41:28***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
01:42:10 Quit ender1 (" Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia.")
02:00
02:00:51 Quit woli ("Leaving")
02:21:42 Quit mofux (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
02:28:33 Part pixelma
02:28:47 Join pixelma2 [0] (n=marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma)
02:32:37 Join HBK- [0] (i=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net)
02:38:23 Join aarcane [0] (n=aarcane@c-67-187-242-146.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
02:41:14 Quit culture (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
02:50:44 Quit HBK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
03:00
03:04:44 Quit MethoS-- (Remote closed the connection)
03:24:42Bawitdaba`do normal ipod docks work with rockbox in terms of getting sound thru the dock?
03:25:04Bawitdaba`i got a 5.5g and im trying to play it via my home theater dock
03:26:29 Quit midkay__ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
03:26:35 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@75-172-109-206.tukw.qwest.net)
03:39:51 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-71-187-243-194.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
03:41:33***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
04:00
04:00:41 Join lfaraone [0] (n=LukeFara@ubuntu/member/lfaraone)
04:00:58lfaraoneDoes the iPod Nano 1g support video under rockbox?
04:01:30scorcheyes
04:02:18lfaraonescorche: ok, the docs (afaict) don't list supported video formats.
04:02:36scorchelook at the PluginMpegplayer wikipage
04:02:47 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]")
04:03:41lfaraonescorche: ah...
04:30:42 Quit reacocard (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
04:32:23 Quit Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(")
04:32:49 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome)
04:51:36 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECD76.dip.t-dialin.net)
04:53:27 Join blkhawk- [0] (n=blkhawk@g227071055.adsl.alicedsl.de)
04:59:35 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Connection timed out)
05:00
05:06:55 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
05:07:12 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1c33cd6224d46b82)
05:10:21 Quit blkhawk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
05:10:24 Nick blkhawk- is now known as blkhawk (n=blkhawk@g227071055.adsl.alicedsl.de)
05:20:24 Join gstory [0] (n=chatzill@pool-71-97-55-146.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net)
05:22:15gstoryI am trying to install rockbox on my Sansa e260 using the current utility 1.0.7. I am getting a download error 404. I was able to download rbutilqt without trouble.
05:34:36 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105)
05:39:32 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst)
05:39:56 Quit goffa (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out))
05:41:37***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
05:47:22 Quit massiveH ("Leaving")
05:48:50 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@190.141.254.68)
05:59:34gstoryNever mind, I did the manual install. I upgraded to a Sansa View so my e260 is "expendable". I like what I see so far. This is cool. Thanks guys for the work.
05:59:43 Quit gstory ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008101315]")
06:00
06:06:47 Quit jhulst (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
06:06:53 Quit Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(")
06:07:56 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst)
06:11:36 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@ool-44c48a1e.dyn.optonline.net)
06:42:18 Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@94.50.179.168)
06:43:17soapBawitdaba`, that is a complicated question. 1 - Any dock which "assumes control" of your ipod is unlikely to work (by assume control, I mean post a custom image and display its own menu). That style also needs the iTunes database to work.
06:43:32soapBawitdaba`, That being said - line-out should work just fine with stock rockbox.
06:44:36soapthere is no chance remote control buttons will work with stock rockbox, though a patch to add basic iPod accessory support exists in the patch tracker, might make it to main Rockbox soon, and is currently available prebuilt in the Unsupported Builds forum.
06:45:47soapMind you, some docks, for one reason or another, might want you to turn on the power supply from inside your ipod to the accessory dock port. There is an 'Accessory Power' option in the menu. Leave it disabled if you don't need it as it consumes a not insignificant amount of battery power.
07:00
07:17:15 Join Darksair [0] (n=user@123.112.112.86)
07:30:55 Quit nplus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
07:33:28 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net)
07:41:38***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
07:43:13 Quit XavierGr ()
07:43:24 Join J-23 [0] (n=kvirc@a105.net128.okay.pl)
07:45:55 Quit GodEater (Remote closed the connection)
07:45:56 Quit perrikwp (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
07:46:09 Join webguest31 [0] (n=4b507d79@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9ed36060ee0e1ef4)
07:47:28 Quit webguest31 (Client Quit)
07:56:14 Join nplus_ [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net)
07:56:44 Quit nplus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
07:56:56 Nick nplus_ is now known as nplus (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net)
08:00
08:25:28 Nick Darksair is now known as Darksair{away} (n=user@123.112.112.86)
08:33:57 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC780.dip.t-dialin.net)
08:39:45 Quit Darksair{away} (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
08:52:00 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
08:53:33 Join reverie [0] (n=jonathan@dsl-242-148-112.telkomadsl.co.za)
08:53:47*reverie waves hello
08:54:23reverieIf anyone is awake/active.. my folks are overseas and can get me a Sandisk View 8gb, I can't see anything specific on the Rockbox web page for the View model, is this a v2 Sensa ?
08:58:52J-23no, is isn't v2 Sansa, it uses different hardware
09:00
09:01:14reverieaah, I saw the article now
09:01:17reverieit's a work in progress
09:05:07 Join lasser [0] (n=chatzill@Wace3.w.pppool.de)
09:05:36advcomp2019reverie, plus you could look in forums too
09:07:49reverieYeah, I just found it now, slow int connection here in south africa :)
09:09:41 Quit Acksaw (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out))
09:12:50 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl)
09:13:27 Join Darksair [0] (n=user@123.112.112.86)
09:13:40 Quit pixelma2 ("-")
09:13:56 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma)
09:15:16 Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection)
09:28:15 Quit massiveH ("Leaving")
09:32:32 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep")
09:41:40***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
09:51:00 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl)
09:59:48 Join reacocard [0] (n=reacocar@WL-112.CINE.HMC.Edu)
10:00
10:02:06 Join inteliwasp [0] (n=inteliwa@cpe-173-89-170-143.neo.res.rr.com)
10:04:34inteliwaspi have a 4g ipod with r16365-080222 installed, can i use the rockbox utility or do i need to do something special?
10:06:25advcomp2019to upgrade?
10:07:10 Join Acksaw [0] (n=omgwtfbb@cpc2-stok5-0-0-cust754.bagu.cable.ntl.com)
10:08:27inteliwaspyes
10:08:57advcomp2019yes, you can use the rockbox utility
10:09:11inteliwaspsorry i am so tired that i forget that i have not typed out half of my thoughts
10:09:30inteliwaspdo i use the full install or w/o bootloader?
10:10:34inteliwasp...
10:10:43*inteliwasp rereads the discriptioon...
10:16:30inteliwaspprops to the person who made rbutility!
10:27:35 Quit inteliwasp ("Leaving")
10:45:26 Quit jhulst (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
10:49:26 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B467AF.dip.t-dialin.net)
10:49:27 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon)
11:00
11:13:30 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection)
11:19:45 Quit reverie ()
11:22:19 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl)
11:30:37 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur)
11:32:08 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org)
11:33:46 Quit Darksair ("Having dinner...")
11:38:50 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-097-241-121.ewe-ip-backbone.de)
11:38:59 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk)
11:40:32 Join tyfoo [0] (n=tyfoo@dyndsl-095-033-089-220.ewe-ip-backbone.de)
11:41:42***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
11:42:48 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!")
11:43:29 Quit stripwax (Client Quit)
11:44:12 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk)
11:44:38 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c211-28-145-137.smelb2.vic.optusnet.com.au)
11:45:55 Quit stripwax (Client Quit)
11:48:17 Quit reacocard (".")
11:48:29 Join reacocard [0] (n=reacocar@WL-112.CINE.HMC.Edu)
11:48:49 Quit reacocard (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
11:48:58 Join reacocard [0] (n=reacocar@WL-112.CINE.HMC.Edu)
11:49:41 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection)
11:50:34 Join PaulJam [0] (n=PaulJam_@vpn-3047.gwdg.de)
11:52:30 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk)
12:00
12:17:29 Join Darksair [0] (n=user@123.112.112.86)
12:18:01 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B467AF.dip.t-dialin.net)
12:21:58 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection)
12:26:15 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl)
12:31:30 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection)
12:34:06 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl)
12:40:28 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection)
12:50:18 Join culture [0] (n=none@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com)
12:55:06 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection)
13:00
13:08:50 Quit J-23 ("Flying cow pressed ^D on my keyboard.")
13:08:58 Join J-23 [0] (n=kvirc@a105.net128.okay.pl)
13:12:57 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl)
13:16:46 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection)
13:35:04 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.)
13:35:05 Join amiconn_ [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn)
13:38:01 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl)
13:41:45***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
13:42:18 Join bertrik_ [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl)
13:42:24 Quit bertrik_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
13:48:18 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection)
13:48:20 Join faemir [0] (n=quassel@88-106-238-33.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
13:50:47 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection)
14:00
14:24:28 Part pixelma
14:24:40 Join pixelma2 [0] (n=marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma)
14:24:52 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn)
14:25:02 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection)
14:29:33 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel)
14:34:55 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl)
14:44:12 Join eflavoie [0] (n=eflavoie@216.252.77.91)
14:51:12 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105)
14:54:44 Join stoffel_ [0] (n=sfr@p57B4D7E1.dip.t-dialin.net)
14:57:26 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.178)
15:00
15:00:23 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-097-241-121.ewe-ip-backbone.de)
15:03:40 Join webguest80 [0] (n=50794858@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-34a8abce697f42bd)
15:04:25 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
15:06:09 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net)
15:06:20 Quit kushal_12_27_200 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out))
15:07:19 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.178)
15:08:23 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECD76.dip.t-dialin.net)
15:11:30 Quit webguest80 ("CGI:IRC")
15:24:19 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
15:24:54 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net)
15:26:00 Quit Llorean (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
15:27:48 Quit stoffel_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
15:30:01 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("Leaving")
15:34:52 Nick Darksair is now known as Darksair{away} (n=user@123.112.112.86)
15:35:10 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-097-242-233.ewe-ip-backbone.de)
15:37:37J-23no messages from 10:27 to now
15:37:40J-23heh :)
15:37:51J-235h 10m
15:38:38 Quit MethoS-- (Remote closed the connection)
15:41:49***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
15:48:32kugelj.-
15:48:44kugelJ-23: well you destryoed the record ;;
15:49:13 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-242-15-169.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net)
15:49:46 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
15:53:19 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
15:56:49 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
15:57:43 Join kronflux [0] (n=kronflux@blk-138-78-15.eastlink.ca)
15:58:30kronfluxheyy everyone. just curious, but um, has anyone started any form of effort for a port to the SanDisk Sansa Fuze?
15:58:54 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dd255ba27d0b2f23)
15:59:26 Nick Darksair{away} is now known as Darksair (n=user@123.112.112.86)
16:00
16:00:52 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p579EC77F.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:01:20 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ (Client Quit)
16:02:17 Join leachim6 [0] (n=leachim6@rrcs-97-76-132-232.se.biz.rr.com)
16:02:17leachim6hey
16:02:39leachim6I just installed 3.0 ...or whatever the latest svn is
16:04:12 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
16:04:37J-23kronflux: yes, we're hacking Fuze now too
16:05:20kronfluxso i just found. so theres been success in running custom code on it?
16:06:28J-23yes, LCD and internal memory work
16:06:43J-23and not all buttons
16:06:57J-23currently we're trying to read data from internal memory
16:08:09kronfluxawesome
16:08:23J-23Sansa v2 hackers: did you look at http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdcard/pls/Simplified_Physical_Layer_Spec.pdf
16:08:27kugelkronflux: read the forum thread to be up-to-date
16:08:34 Join Acknix [0] (n=Ackbux@cpc2-stok5-0-0-cust754.bagu.cable.ntl.com)
16:08:39J-23ahh, I forgot to add "?" to end of my message
16:11:02 Quit Acknix (Remote closed the connection)
16:13:19 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca)
16:13:28kugelfdinel: hey
16:13:43fdinelhey hello guys :)
16:14:52kugelfdinel: I've heard you have some findings with the fuze buttons?
16:16:46fdinelwell
16:16:49fdinela bit really
16:17:03fdinelI think I know the function where buttons are read
16:17:26fdinelbut it seems quite complex so I haven't had the time to really look into it yet
16:17:51 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p579EC77F.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:17:54kugelah ok
16:19:22kugelfdinel: did you find the diagnosis mode? that's a special test mode active when you name the firmware fuzet.bin. There's one test which asks for all buttons
16:20:04fdinelkugel: didn't know that, I'll have a look at it then :)
16:20:35kugelyep, that could be helpful
16:21:06 Quit leachim6 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
16:22:21 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP)
16:25:45 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p3EE2178B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
16:31:36 Join AndyIL [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32)
16:35:30J-23hmm
16:35:35J-23can't we copy SD code from other players?
16:37:23kugelJ-23: try it :)
16:37:36kugelfunman said much of the code from pp can be reused
16:39:52 Join funman [0] (n=fun@AAnnecy-257-1-19-179.w90-28.abo.wanadoo.fr)
16:40:29funmanhi, i copied the sd code for PP targets and it works fine
16:40:47funmannow it just needs to be adapted a bit for the PL180 controller present in the sansav2
16:40:59bertrikfunman, I'm curious about the CSD and CID
16:41:57kugelchristopher street day shouldn't an issue :D
16:42:05kugel+be
16:42:15funmani had dumped them, CID said 'SD01G' manufactured by '0x3' in June 2008
16:42:27 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
16:42:32funmando you want the raw registers ?
16:42:43bertrikyes, please
16:43:15 Quit Horschti ("User was distributing pornography on server; system seized by FBI")
16:46:44funmanClip 1GB : CID 0x00008612802348294430314703534453 and CSD 0x92404018BEFBCFFF5F5983D35F5983D300260032
16:52:05funmani have some trouble using the pl180 fifo, perhaps it would be easier to just use the dma controller
16:55:14 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB24AF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
16:58:56bertrikfunman, I thought the CSD is also 16 bytes, but the CSD you show is 20.5 bytes
16:59:46funmanoops
16:59:59funmani copied 32 bits 2 times, and one extra bit
17:00
17:00:18funmanreplace the 2 consecutives 5F5983D3 by one
17:01:33funman0x92404018BEFBCFFF5F5983D300260032 (in fact there is no extra bit, maybe the \n?)
17:02:33 Join Ed__ [0] (n=chatzill@cpc3-char1-0-0-cust233.sotn.cable.ntl.com)
17:05:11 Quit Ed__ ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0/2008052906]")
17:09:20kugelI created a new task for the fuze sim in case someone wants to commit http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9535
17:11:42funmankugel: search for HOLD in sim's button.c : it's not target specific
17:11:47 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht)
17:13:31kugelfunman: that means? I've never used the hold button at all in the sim, so I can't tell anything about that
17:14:06funmanquoting you "PS: I've added BUTTON_HOLD for the sim even though no other target does this. I don't know why. You might change this."
17:14:09kugelI've searched for the hold button, but I didn't think about it rather (but I found some stuff)
17:14:41kugelfunman: yes, I know you're referring to my sentence. is there a generic button for hold in the sims?
17:14:47funmanuse 'h'
17:15:20 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection)
17:15:30funmanplease ask someone else to commit it, my tree is rather dirty with SD code ;)
17:15:48kugelfunman: lol, I've never noticed h
17:18:50kugelah yea, now I found it in the code
17:19:36 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl)
17:20:01 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome)
17:29:06*kugel wonders why funman and bertrik don't have a developer cloak yet
17:33:28funmanthey told me i must have sex with a developer and i don't want
17:34:14kugelrumors say you can get it with enough money as well
17:34:32 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection)
17:41:02 Join faemir [0] (n=quassel@88-106-238-33.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
17:41:52***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
17:43:30 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-68-173-234-19.nyc.res.rr.com)
17:43:36 Join RaVen [0] (n=RaVen@d90-136-159-69.cust.tele2.de)
17:43:55RaVenhi :)
17:46:31RaVeni got a problem with my ipod vide,.. I'm not able to boot with the original frimware
17:47:24funmani think you have to use itunes to restore it
17:47:39RaVenso thats the biggest problem...
17:47:52 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst)
17:47:52RaVenmy pc dont want to detect my ipod
17:48:13funmanput it in (disk,manufacturer,whatever google tells you) mode
17:48:36RaVendoesent work
17:48:57funmantry another cable, another usb port, another computer
17:50:25RaVenwhats the normal way to start the ipod frimware ? leftklick on start?
17:51:00kugelI think it was hold button
17:51:26kugelbut don't quote me on that, the manual will tell you
17:51:38RaVenhrrr ... i dont have an hold button.. hes defeckt... i*ll gonna buy a neew one next week
17:52:15kugelhave you tried booting to rockbox, and then inserting the cable (rockbox should reboot into disk mode then AFAIK)
17:53:43RaVenthe pc dont want to detect my ipod as an ipod... usualy i started my ipod, insert the usb cable, and select the generetic usb driver
17:54:14 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.178)
17:54:28 Join juno [0] (n=4239248d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6a443bcec29707fb)
17:54:37kugeltry another usb port and remove some usb devices
17:55:47RaVeni gonna try with another pc.. this wont be succesfull with this pc
17:55:48junowhats the best rockbox supported mp3 player for under $120?
17:55:58RaVensansa :)
17:56:21kugelonly if you're lucky and get a v1
17:56:50junoother than sansa which player?
17:57:30kugelwell, non of the supported targets is in production anymore.
17:57:42kugels/non/none/
17:58:17junoic
17:58:24 Part RaVen
17:58:30kugelplease use proper english words
17:58:38kugelas the guidelines told you
17:58:58junoword
18:00
18:00:04junois there actually nice looking skins for rockbox? or do they not worry about the looks so much?
18:00:44soapYou can buy a refurbished Sansa E280 + 8GB microSDHC card, guaranteed to be a v1, for under $120.
18:01:12soapjuno, pick a player and look here - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery
18:01:32 Quit fyre^OS (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
18:01:38junoyea, i dont really need 16 gig tho so if i did get one from froobi, i'd probably get the 8 gig for 60$ or w/e
18:02:02junoits just i'm hesitant about a sansa, dont see how there can be a billion refurbs of them around if they are actually good players
18:03:45soapYou're the one who placed a $120 cap on the price.
18:03:59funmanI got a "receive FIFO overrun error", not sure what that means: if I must request blocks of the size of the FIFO maybe
18:04:37junoand like i said size doesnt matter, i'd think 120 would be plenty
18:05:19 Join bhalu [0] (n=dan@pool-138-89-100-193.mad.east.verizon.net)
18:05:57 Quit puzzles (Nick collision from services.)
18:06:08 Nick bhalu is now known as puzzles (n=dan@xmms2/developer/puzzles)
18:06:55 Quit _lifeless (Remote closed the connection)
18:07:08 Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@94.50.185.21)
18:15:26 Join Acky [0] (n=omgwtfbb@cpc2-stok5-0-0-cust754.bagu.cable.ntl.com)
18:18:22 Quit Acksaw (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out))
18:20:37kugelfunman: you wanted me to test something on my fuze?
18:21:49funmannope, i thought the csd register was invalid, but i was reading the words of the register in the wrong direction
18:22:15kugel"for example, if you change the meaning of XPD interface with CCU_IO register, and then sets pin D7 high"
18:24:24funmanah this, if you can make a table of the status of buttonlight & backlight with D7 high/low, backlight register set/unset through i2c bus. don't mind about CCU_IO: just comment out storage_init()
18:24:25 Quit funman ("leaving")
18:40:29 Join funman [0] (n=fun@AAnnecy-257-1-19-179.w90-28.abo.wanadoo.fr)
18:43:31 Quit _lifeless (Remote closed the connection)
18:43:40 Join __lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@94.50.185.21)
18:45:05 Quit Acky (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
18:49:52 Join Acksaw [0] (n=omgwtfbb@cpc2-stok5-0-0-cust754.bagu.cable.ntl.com)
18:50:47 Nick Bawitdaba` is now known as Bawitdaba (n=Sphinx@cpe-72-224-114-36.nycap.res.rr.com)
18:54:24 Quit synergist ("changing servers")
18:55:30 Join meven [0] (n=meven@lav35-1-82-236-137-162.fbx.proxad.net)
18:56:45 Quit Darksair ("Use the Force, Luke!")
18:59:07kugelfunman: it seems the buttonlight doesn't work w/o backlight
18:59:49funmanok so the 'backlight' is in fact a (documented) power input, which powers the buttonlight as well as the lcd backlight. thanks for taking the time to look that !
19:00
19:01:44kugelfunman: you're welcome
19:02:25 Join _Tristan_508 [0] (i=tristan@i.dont.want.to.die.virgin.net.in)
19:04:08kugelfunman: on the v1 thought it's possible to have buttonlight without backlight
19:04:27funmanand on the e200v2, and on the clip
19:05:56kugelhm
19:06:54funmanthe power of the button light circuit is just not the same
19:07:15kugelpossibly
19:07:37kugelon the fuze all buttons, the wheel and the wheel light is connected through a cable to the board
19:07:51kugelall buttons as in up, down, left, right and center
19:08:11kugelwhich isn't the case on a e200
19:10:51kugelfunman: that's also the reason I thought D7 doesn't work for the fuze in the first place
19:11:13funmanbutton_light == (d7 && power)
19:11:17funmanbacklight == (power)
19:11:24kugelyep
19:11:38kugelbecause we had no backlight at this point
19:14:36kugelfunman: can I look if my microsd is recognized as well?
19:14:50funmanno
19:23:01 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey)
19:28:28kugelfunman: ah, I see. HAVE_MULTIVOLUME isn't defined for the bootloader. Do you know the reason for that?
19:28:51funmanperhaps a bootloader doesn't need SD ?
19:29:35kugelwell, true for a working port. but debatable for a early port with only a bootloader
19:31:17 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection)
19:31:26 Nick HBK- is now known as HBK (i=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net)
19:31:49 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@host-69-145-35-234.static.bresnan.net)
19:33:10kugelfunman: so, my microsd is recognized as well :) I get a panic when it isn't inserted and a nice card ready if it's in
19:41:20 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother)
19:41:53***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
19:47:54 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor)
19:49:09 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
19:49:41 Quit Zambezi (Remote closed the connection)
19:49:52jhMikeSn1s: Still wondering about that tuner thing? I have no idea about those GPIOs.
19:50:57n1sjhMikeS: yes, i think maybe it would be something i could try getting to work as i really don't know what i should do with the clock changing business
19:51:08 Quit juno ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)")
19:51:14n1sso how did you find the ones for audio? trial & error
19:51:17jhMikeSn1s: I can probe the tuner board to find out.
19:51:21 Join Reignerok [0] (n=chatzill@147.Red-79-151-171.staticIP.rima-tde.net)
19:51:30Reignerokhi everyone
19:51:33jhMikeSor the main board, whatever. multimeter.
19:51:51n1sjhMikeS: would be great
19:52:36Reigneroki need help: i've put new music in my iPod but I can't see it (neither hear it) with RockBox
19:52:55ZagorReignerok: how did you copy it to your ipod?
19:53:07Reignerokwith the RockBox Utility
19:53:31Zagorumm, does rbutil copy music files?
19:53:37Reignerokah
19:53:41Reignerokwith iTunes
19:53:47Reignerokas I do always
19:54:01Zagortry simple drag-and-drop instead
19:54:17Reignerokdrag-and-drop where?
19:54:35Zagorfrom your music folder, to your ipod.
19:54:49Reigneroki mean to what folder?
19:54:56Zagoranywhere
19:55:40 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B467AF.dip.t-dialin.net)
19:56:18 Quit Horscht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
19:56:31Zagorin rockbox you can browse your entire filesystem, so you can organize your files however you like
19:56:54Reignerokbut it won't work with the iPod OS, right?
19:56:59Zagorno
19:57:19Zagoripod firmware only works with files copied with itunes
19:57:22bertrikjhMikeS, what tuner are you talking about, the one in the beast?
19:57:31Reignerokbut I don't understand why I can hear the old music (copied with iTunes) but not the new one
19:57:52rasherReignerok: You should also be able to play new music by using the Database. Do you perhaps need to update the database?
19:58:02Zagorrasher: ah, thank you
19:58:17Reignerokrasher: and how can I update it?
19:58:44rasherReignerok: In the main menu, open the context menu for the database item and select update, if memory serves
19:58:57rasherThe database can also auto-update, but I don't know if that's on by default or not (I'm guessing not).
20:00
20:00:03 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4E42C.dip.t-dialin.net)
20:00:07Reigneroki'm lost, rasher
20:00:13Reignerokwhat main menu? RockBox's one?
20:00:25rasherYes
20:01:04Reigneroki haven't any db item
20:01:50Reignerokoh, now
20:02:05Reigneroki've found it
20:02:09 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-71-198-1-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
20:04:52 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p3EE2178B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
20:06:21 Quit Schmogel (Client Quit)
20:06:41Reigneroki've selected update, but it doesn't
20:07:02 Join ajonat [0] (n=ajonat@190.48.102.146)
20:08:19jhMikeSbertrik: yes
20:10:37ReignerokZagor: rasher: it's OK now, thank you very much
20:10:47ZagorReignerok: great!
20:10:59Reigneroki didn't know about the db update
20:11:09Reigneroknow i selected auto-update
20:11:10Reignerok:)
20:13:53Reignerokbye everyone
20:13:59Reignerokand thanks :-)
20:14:09 Quit Reignerok ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]")
20:19:06Zagorif anyone is curious (and haven't seen it already) I posted my "unified makefile" in FS #9534
20:21:41 Join stoffel_ [0] (n=sfr@p57B4D92C.dip.t-dialin.net)
20:23:27 Quit Zagor ("Leaving")
20:32:02 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("This computer has gone to sleep")
20:37:48 Join Zambezi [0] (i=stolgfor@itslyna.se)
20:41:45 Quit ajonat ()
20:42:08 Quit Horscht ("I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup")
20:53:25 Quit stoffel_ ("leaving")
21:00
21:01:24 Join ajonat [0] (n=ajonat@190.48.102.146)
21:01:46 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor)
21:04:05 Quit meven (Remote closed the connection)
21:10:32 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
21:12:42 Join Vorador [0] (n=tomas@lan-84-240-35-19.vln.skynet.lt)
21:15:06 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@c83-254-193-69.bredband.comhem.se)
21:15:13qwmhow do i make rockbox play everything i have?
21:15:30Zagorqwm: make a playlist
21:15:42qwmthat's the only way?
21:15:44 Join PaulJam [0] (n=PaulJam_@vpn-3008.gwdg.de)
21:15:47scorcheqwm!
21:15:49qwmkind of in a hurry to head out for a run
21:15:53qwmoh no, it's scorche
21:16:01qwmscorche: i'll talk to you when i come back in an hour. :D
21:16:10qwmi run 10.8km a few times per week
21:16:13qwmthese days.
21:16:30scorchei just open the context menu on my "music" folder and hit "insert shuffled"
21:16:31n1sqwm: it's easy, just long press your music dir playlist->insert
21:16:34rasherThere used to be a menu entry somewhere that would create a playlist of the root dir, recursively adding subdirs
21:16:38 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180077230.adsl.alicedsl.de)
21:16:56rasherOr if you have a top-level music dir, what scorche and n1s said
21:17:23qwmn1s: i love you. thank you. i head no idea about the long press thing.
21:17:34qwmand i've been using rockbox for two and a half years.
21:17:38qwmmaybe it's time to look at the manual.
21:17:39 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection)
21:17:53qwmscorche: hehe
21:18:01Lloreanrasher: That would be the "create playlist" which takes all music in the current folder, and if "recursively insert" is on, all music in all subfolders.
21:18:39 Part Vorador ("Ex-Chat")
21:18:40n1srasher: it's still there in main menu -> playlist -> create playlist (it's dependant on the current dir the file browser is in though)
21:18:43LloreanIt's a pretty useful option since "Playlist->Insert" requires you to then name and save the playlist in order to use bookmarks, while "Create Playlist" automatically names it for you based on the folder.
21:18:53 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi)
21:19:01LloreanAnd since it's now a file playlist, you can bookmark.
21:19:06n1sdoh, /me is too slow
21:19:19rasherAh, didn't know it was dependent on the current dir - I only ever used it once I think.
21:19:46n1sLlorean: i think that feature is pretty counter intuitive imho (the dependancy on being in the current dir)
21:20:01Lloreann1s: Dependency on being in the current dir?
21:20:23LloreanYou mean the "Create Playlist" option creating one based on the current dir?
21:20:27n1si mean that it is not immediately apparent that it works on the current dir
21:20:40n1syes
21:20:42LloreanThen update the name to "Create Playlist of Dir"
21:20:59LloreanOr "Playlist Current Directory"
21:21:02n1smaybe it would help if it splashed "Created foo.m3u in /bar" or something
21:21:08LloreanThat could do it too.
21:21:18rasherI think knowing ahead of time would be better
21:21:22LloreanI think it's obvious enough, there's no real pain getting it wrong once, and there's always the manual, but a little more hinting wouldn't hurt.
21:21:32Zagor"Are you really really sure?"
21:21:35LloreanIt's not like it takes particularly long even with a few thousand tracks.
21:23:51 Join meven [0] (n=meven@lav35-1-82-236-137-162.fbx.proxad.net)
21:24:42 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection)
21:28:55*n1s has a feature idea for genlang, a string that is "" is always wrong in a dest if the string is not marked as deprecated so we could warn for this because it seems like it has crept in in a few translations
21:32:21 Quit petur ("linux needs a kick")
21:36:48n1shmm, genlang does not check the description for the deprecation marker, it just handles them as empty strings...
21:37:24 Quit __lifeless (Remote closed the connection)
21:38:03rashern1s: it's not always wrong in the voice however (I "translated" the "o'clock" string into "" for Danish voice)
21:38:29n1srasher: true, i was not going to check voice
21:38:40 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net)
21:39:17rasherAre you positive it's always wrong for dest? I can't think of any off the top of my head, but similar situations could appear in writing
21:40:30n1snot positive, no but also these empty strings are bugs, maybe it should be checked with a different script...
21:41:06 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
21:41:13 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS)
21:41:55***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
21:42:19jchilleruprasher: are you from Denmark?
21:42:34rashern1s: Do you have an example of a language which such empty strings?
21:42:42jchillerupi suppose so.
21:42:45rasherjchillerup: I am, yes. Why?
21:42:51jchillerupI'm trying to port rockbox to nintendo ds
21:43:08n1srasher: i killed some in thai in r19037 for example
21:43:12jchillerup... together with a friend
21:43:22jchillerupWe don't have any rockbox code experience, however
21:43:49rasherjchillerup: Port in which way - replacing the firmware on the DS, or running the simulator?
21:44:16jchillerupnot sure what you mean; creating a .nds executable with rockbox
21:44:33jchillerupmoonshell sucks for playing audio
21:44:37rashern1s: Any languages with empty strings currently? I'm wanting to see if my translation webpage catches it
21:45:06n1srasher: i don't know, if i get my genlang hack working i'll tell you
21:45:42bluebrotherjchillerup: there are a few people interested in porting to the ds. IIRC bertrik was among them, and me.
21:45:45Zagorjchillerup: start simple. get a "hello world" program running. then make a simple beep program. etc.
21:45:51jchillerupmhm
21:46:05jchillerupbluebrother: fancy doing some focused work on it?
21:46:07bluebrotherthough I don't see why this is related to denmark :)
21:46:49gevaertsbluebrother: there's obviously something rotten there :)
21:46:54jchillerupnah, I was just thinking if there was a bigger developer concentration here, we could throw some kind of a party with, y'know, extreme programming and the like
21:47:03*jchillerup hates the term extreme programming
21:47:09bluebrotherno. At least I didn't have the time to look into that at all. And setting up the dev environment seems to be a bit annoying −− all those guides are windows specific, plus they use those nds libs ...
21:47:21*bluebrother suggests using XP instead :P
21:47:29jchillerup:P
21:47:42rasherI think I've been the only Rockbox developer in Denmark for a long time. And I'm not much of a coder really, I barely touch any code
21:48:21jchillerupanyway, I have the nds build environment running, and I'm determined to dig into it for real soon
21:49:01jchillerup.. meh, you live pretty far away
21:49:07jchillerup(from me)
21:49:22gevaertsYou could move
21:49:27jchillerupheh
21:49:34rasherBut that would interfere with his education!
21:49:55*jchillerup looks at his hostname...
21:49:56rasherJudging by the dtu.dk hostmask. Straying dangerously off topic now..
21:50:02jchillerup:P
21:50:35bluebrotherjchillerup: running on linux or windows?
21:50:43jchilleruplinux
21:51:17bluebrothernice. Can you recommend a page describing what's needed setting it up? Building gcc / binutils is not the issue, but what else is needed?
21:52:30jchillerupthere is a devkit script
21:52:32jchillerupmoment
21:52:47LloreanIn terms of homebrew, it's as simple to run a compatible app as using an R4 Revolution kart?
21:52:52jchilleruphttp://www.devkitpro.org/category/devkitarm/
21:52:59jchillerupLlorean: Yes.
21:53:01LloreanLast time i even looked at DS homebrew, you had to open up the DS and short a connection.
21:53:12jchillerupyou don't need to do that
21:53:21LloreanYou needed to a few years ago. :-P
21:54:02bluebrotherit's quite easy right now. Just put the nds files on the memory card and stick it into the DS
21:54:14jchillerupbluebrother: wanna start a port with me?
21:55:47bertriksorry, I'm interested in general nds homebrew, but not in a rockbox port to nds
21:56:07bluebrotherwell, my time for Rockbox is quite limited these days. But I'd definitely be interested
21:56:33jchillerupok
21:56:38bluebrotherI'm wondering if we could use the same gcc version as the ARM targets for Rockbox use
21:56:56jchillerupmost likely
21:56:58jchillerupARM code is ARM code
21:58:12bluebrotherwell, no idea if the other stuff in devkitarm requires a newer gcc
21:58:23jchillerupwell, that's a point
21:58:29Lloreanjchillerup: While this seems an obvious statement, we've encountered a at least one instance where GCC of differing versions seems to produce code that doesn't work any more, too.
21:58:34jchillerupwhat gcc version do the other arm targets use
21:58:37Llorean4.0.3
21:58:41jchillerupmoment
21:59:18bluebrotherfirst I'd like to be able writing some hello world nds file. No idea when I'll find enough time for that though :/
21:59:39 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-bd8677f66eafa222)
21:59:42jchillerupdevkitarm uses 4.3.0
22:00
22:00:00jhMikeSn1s: I've got the pins. I'll put in it the wiki.
22:00:14n1sjhMikeS: great, I'll look at it tomorrow
22:00:28bluebrotheroh, and the needed motivation. Reminds me that I wanted to get the sudoku patches finished ...
22:03:24 Quit culture (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
22:03:37 Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@94.50.185.21)
22:03:58saratogahas anyone looked at the area sampling code in the bmp resize patch?
22:04:18 Quit J-23 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
22:04:43LloreanSounds like the DS devkit is C++ not C, too?
22:05:06 Join culture [0] (n=none@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com)
22:05:33kugelsaratoga: isn't it the smooth resize already in svn?
22:05:36saratogaIIRC theres linux source code for the DS drivers, so that should be plain c if nothing else
22:06:19saratogakugel: theres one in the plugin api i think, but i'm refering to FS #9458
22:06:24 Quit _lifeless (Remote closed the connection)
22:06:33kugelsaratoga: I know
22:07:16kugelsaratoga: I refer to his comment from 28th october
22:07:30kugelSo, Imlib2 (and old GIMP?) uses "Area Sampling" for downscaling.
22:07:32kugel# "Area Sampling" algorithm is only for downscaling
22:08:00kugelImlib2 is the smooth resize iirc
22:08:25saratogaI'm asking how it works . . .
22:10:47 Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@94.50.185.21)
22:19:31bertrikjhMikeS, several sansa v2's use a si4702 tuner chip. I think we should try to make a generic driver that would work both on the beast and the sansa v2s.
22:20:58bertrikto make that work, I think we only need to decouple the part that does low-level writing of tuner registers and the part that determines what to write into those registers and that implements the rockbox radio api
22:21:28bertrikBTW, I have the datasheet for the si4702/03
22:22:48n1sbertrik: that's a sound plan yes
22:23:02rashern1s: I guess you could generate a warning for those strings in genlang. The build table might be messy for a long time after that though
22:23:48rashern1s: do the strings appear empty in the resulting binary file, or is the english text used?
22:24:06n1srasher but this is sort of a hack, the desc string should be checked really and it that's not "DEPRECATED" dest should not be empty
22:24:08jhMikeSbertrik: on the beast, the i2c driver should do the trick. it uses another module but that just has to be enabled in the config.
22:24:27n1srasher: the empty strings are in the lng so they get used in rockbox
22:25:04rasherYeah, I think it should generate a warning then
22:25:36rasherMy guess is it'll take weeks, if not months before we get a green buildtable again though
22:26:12bertrikjhMikeS, are you working already on the Si470x driver?
22:26:44saratogai wonder if we even need area sampling provided we get a JPEG decoder
22:27:00n1srasher we could just delete the entries in the translations so the english strings get used instead
22:27:04jhMikeSbertrik: n1s wanted a crack at it
22:27:43jhMikeSI'm just tracing out pins
22:27:50 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com)
22:27:52rashern1s: Yeah, I was thinking of that, but that breaks the translation for previously unaffected targets though, so I'm not sure that's better
22:29:01bertrikI'm assuming so far that si4701 and si4702 are quite similar
22:29:17jchillerupdoes rockbox have a SID/MOD decoder?
22:29:27bertrikyes
22:29:34jchillerupcool
22:29:43jhMikeSbertrik: yeah, same info for the whole 470x series
22:31:04 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)")
22:35:18rashern1s: an empty line has snuck into svenska.lang - next time you (or someone else) updates it, the header will get removed by genlang
22:35:50Lloreanjchillerup: SID, yes, but for MOD only some formats are supported currently.
22:36:22jhMikeSThe ports/pins page should really be split. It's rather unweildy editing for what it is.
22:37:04n1srasher: I think i will file a bugreport about this empty translation thing as i'm not sure how to do this in a good way in genlang and would like Bagder to comment but it is likely to be forgotten
22:37:08jhMikeSNot to mention anchor ambiguity
22:37:10jchillerupLlorean: right. thanks
22:37:41rashern1s: I'm looking at genlang now
22:37:53n1srasher: ah, will hold off then
22:38:54bertrikjhMikeS, yeah noticed that too as I was looking at your latest edit, maybe someone should split it by manufacturer?
22:39:22jhMikeSbertrik: As in split by major heading?
22:39:22n1sthere's a GigabeatSPortPins page too
22:39:52jhMikeSStill? I thought that got removed when they got joined.
22:40:13bertrikjhMikeS, yes
22:40:41n1sstill there but not linked from anywhere, but yes i agree they should not be in one huge page
22:41:19jhMikeSI guess use the current one with a table of links to the specific one
22:41:59 Quit krazykit ("Connection reset by beer")
22:42:04n1sSounds like a good idea
22:42:41n1sthere's a page for gigabeat F/X too
22:43:32jhMikeSYippee. Should be easy enough. I'll be sure to use the existing pages and update them.
22:52:58 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht)
22:55:25rashern1s: Adding a warning is pretty simple, it turns out - I'm still not entirely sure we want to do it though
22:56:17n1srasher: IMHO it's better to know about it (and also simply delete these empty strings) than silently accepting them
22:57:09 Quit ajonat ()
22:57:49 Quit Horscht ("We don't make mistakes, we just have happy little accidents")
22:57:55rasherYeah, true
22:58:36rashern1s: patch: http://pastebin.ca/1249035
22:59:07rasherThis won't be added to langfiles when updating, but only output to the console, of course. I think that's good enough though.
22:59:51n1slooks good to me
23:00
23:01:36rasherI can't believe I'm considering knowingly committing a change resulting in heaps of warnings
23:02:02 Quit _lifeless (Remote closed the connection)
23:02:37 Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@94.50.185.21)
23:02:37rasherI agree that it's bad to have these errors lying around though. I'll commit
23:03:30 Join tyfoo2 [0] (n=tyfoo@dyndsl-095-033-095-240.ewe-ip-backbone.de)
23:04:50rasherHere goes nothing
23:08:22 Join testa [0] (n=tes@pool-173-64-79-68.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net)
23:09:19n1srasher: are you going to look at the warnings? at least some of them are easy to fix (like afrikaans where two phrases are completely empty
23:09:22n1s)
23:09:41rasherYeah, I'll look through them
23:10:32n1safrikaans also contains some of those comments that genlang outputs when updating
23:10:50 Join HBK- [0] (i=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net)
23:11:13 Quit _lifeless (Remote closed the connection)
23:11:24 Quit HBK (Nick collision from services.)
23:11:31testaHi. I am having a problem with using microsdhc card. When I try to play some of the files on the card on rockbox 3.0, it starts playing in the middle of another mp3. Any idea why?
23:11:39 Nick HBK- is now known as HBK (i=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net)
23:11:49 Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@94.50.185.21)
23:12:05n1stesta: do they play correctly on a computer if you play them off the card?
23:12:16n1ss/off/from/
23:12:48testayup
23:13:31testaThats before I put it in my sansa. Afterwards it looks like the mp3 becomes corrupt
23:14:47n1shmm, there's a bug in the sd driver used on sansa's that can cause corruption when writing but it shouldn't corrupt a file that is not written AFAIK
23:15:44*funman tries to decode the meaning of this sentence
23:16:39funmanit should only corrupt a modified or new file, but not previously existing files which were not modified?
23:16:51rashern1s: hey, that's not too bad
23:17:36 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection)
23:17:48funmanare non initialized C variables in .bss segment ? drive is used non initialized but should be 0 in firmware/common/disk.c disk_init()
23:18:26testaHmm strange. Maybe its the card that I bought. I will try it out on another one when I get a chance. Strange thing is that it works fine with my regular microsd card.
23:18:52n1sfunman: IIUC it can corrupt data but maybe even when reading but why would it write back the corrupted data to the file?
23:19:05n1ss/but//
23:19:28funmanif the filesystem structure is corrupted, then every file will be I think
23:19:35 Quit tyfoo (Connection timed out)
23:19:42funmanI promise that if i have the same problem when writing the write code for sansav2 i'll have a look :)
23:19:57n1syeah
23:20:21testathanks
23:21:18n1stesta: does it corrupt mp3 files when you just play them from the card and don't do anything else like copying files to the card?
23:21:30testayup
23:21:46Lloreanrasher: I think 4 releases a year isn't bad since the hard "freeze" only lasts a week. But I really don't have anything against 3/year either.
23:22:21testaOne time I copied over 100 files to the card. After I played an mp3 on my sansa from the card, nearly half of the files were gone
23:27:31rasherLlorean: It's not something I feel strongly about - 3 months just seems "often", whereas 4 months seems like far longer, even if it's only one month difference.
23:28:23 Join jefdameth [0] (n=user@dyndsl-095-033-114-128.ewe-ip-backbone.de)
23:28:26LloreanI doubt many people will feel particularly strongly. It's probably something we could safely just hold a vote on and say "done."
23:30:12 Nick jefdameth is now known as jeffdameth` (n=user@dyndsl-095-033-114-128.ewe-ip-backbone.de)
23:32:30 Quit Bensawsome (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
23:33:01 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome)
23:40:41rashern1s: well that was fairly painless
23:40:59n1srasher: yes
23:41:57***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
23:44:14 Join fml [0] (n=4fd3eadf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7d222876bc1e4ea6)
23:44:19rasherAnd the only langauges negatively affected was Russian, Traditional Chinese and Korean, with only one phrase removed
23:45:26n1srasher: i wonder , in such cases if it is necessary to remove the whole phrase, will genlang not just ignore it if the targets don't match?
23:45:55rasherYeah, but the translator won't be told about this missing target, I think (which should be fixed)
23:46:28fmlSince a couple of days the irc reader doesn't correctly display the svn release links. There is no space befre a link. Could somebody tell why?
23:46:44n1sah, i thought mismatched targets were reported by genlang when updating
23:47:19rasherOnly if the source doesn't match. I guess I could've modified the source string as well
23:47:49rasherIn fact, that's better
23:48:11*amiconn dislikes images in websites with missing width and/or height parameters
23:48:20amiconnFor example build.rockbox.org
23:51:27 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht)
23:53:06amiconnjhMikeS: It's nice to see someone is actually doing the PortPinAssignments page split
23:53:36amiconnHowever, I think that the coldifre targets should share a table, similar to how the SH1 targets share a table
23:54:15amiconnMaybe that'd also be a good idea for all PP502x targets, all PP5002 targets etc
23:56:05jhMikeSamiconn: Are all coldfire similar enough? I'm not sure I'd wish to mix e200 and H10 as they're very different.
23:56:41amiconnThe SoC has the same port pins, so this would be very good for comparison
23:57:39amiconnThe actual port pin assignments vary, but so they do on SH1
23:58:40jhMikeSI thought about such things but I've rarely had a need for comparison. Too much in one spot ends up lacking focus.

Previous day | Next day