#rockbox 2008-11-28

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#rockbox log for 2008-11-28

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00:10:17	BigBambi	Zagor: looking at e.g. http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9583, I see "Notice: Undefined index: 0 in /home/bjst/rockbox_flyspray/includes/class.flyspray.php on line 353" in the pink strip that gives FS# then title
00:10:40	BigBambi	It seems fine still, but thought I'd mention it :)
00:10:51	Zagor	BigBambi: thanks, I'll look at it
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00:18:23	Rich\|	hmm
00:19:05	Rich\|	ive downloaded a theme file, where do i extract it to?
00:19:13	BigBambi	To the root of you dap
00:19:23	BigBambi	If you have connected it as H:, unzip it to H:
00:19:33	Rich\|	whats a dap?
00:19:41	BigBambi	Digital Audio Player
00:20:05	Rich\|	but where on the dap?
00:20:16	BigBambi	I just told you
00:21:18	Rich\|	all i see is backdrops, codecs etc
00:21:29	BigBambi	<BigBambi> If you have connected it as H:, unzip it to H:
00:21:47	BigBambi	If your ipod is connected as H:\ then unzip the theme to H:\
00:21:57	Rich\|	ah i see
00:21:57	BigBambi	I don't know how else to make it clearer
00:23:44	Rich\|	cool thanks for your help
00:23:53	BigBambi	no problem
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00:27:34	kugel	\O/
00:29:22	*	amiconn silly, this scalarproduct idea cannot work...
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00:35:42	kugel	linuxstb: ping
00:35:46	kugel	funman: ping
00:38:15	funman	pong
00:39:03	kugel	funman: I know you didn't make the driver, but do you see any reason in setting CCU_IO bits 3 and 4 to 0 in the lcd driver?
00:39:19	kugel	3 and 4 aren't even related iiuc
00:39:22	funman	it (used to?) use the gpiod ?
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00:39:51	kugel	lcd is mainly GPIOA, and B C in afsel mode
00:40:28	funman	have a look at r19182
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00:41:20	kugel	funman: ah yea possibly, so that removal wasn't complete
00:42:06	kugel	uh, and it unsets bits 2 and 3, so yea
00:42:31	kugel	I got the power button to work now
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01:08:16	casainho	hello :-)
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01:08:28	maffe	hi
01:08:36	casainho	I am looking for guidance
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01:08:56	casainho	I have my first code of bootloader working
01:09:11	casainho	just flash a LED and send data to serial port
01:09:33	casainho	I would like to know what should I do now, to continue devbeloping the bootloader
01:10:08	casainho	do I need to prepared the "void kernel_init(void)"?
01:11:02	funman	yes
01:12:13	casainho	what is the task of kernel_init()? why do I need kernel?
01:13:34	funman	kernel_init() prepares for multitasking : you must setup the regular kernel interrupt with a timer (see how tick_start() is implemented in the various targets)
01:14:15	funman	you must implement tick_start(unsigned int milliseconds) which will run call_tick_tasks() every x milliseconds
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01:15:16	casainho	okok - I was thinking in use kernel to flash the LED - actual LED is flashing using interrupts
01:16:05	casainho	so, to have kernel working, I just need to work on the tick_start()?
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01:17:56	funman	yes
01:19:54	casainho	so, should I just look on kernel.c file?
01:20:12	casainho	I need to know what files I need to read...
01:21:06	casainho	can you tell me why some ports have the file "timer-port.c" file?
01:21:06	funman	do find firmware/target -name kernel-\*.c :)
01:21:15	funman	i don't know, just look inside :P
01:21:44	funman	I suppose it's for a configurable timer (there is usually one timer dedicated to the kernel, and another one configurablme)
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01:22:38	casainho	to see If I understand −− one timer just for the tick and other configurable for configurable delays?
01:22:59	funman	yes
01:25:27	casainho	so, to have kernel working, I need to put that 2 interrupts working + tick_start()....
01:25:34	casainho	okok :-)
01:27:19	casainho	I go to sleep :-) thank you - good night :-)
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02:23:32	kugel	funman: are we reading gpio correctly?
02:23:47	kugel	funman: I get different values at every boot for the same code
02:24:13	kugel	the data sheet mentions some "special addressing"
02:25:29	funman	if you use the defines of as3525 you read them one by one
02:25:47	funman	special addressing is when you want to read several pins in a row and has proven not to work correctly for the buttons
02:26:26	funman	if you want to read pin 3 & 4, use GPIOx_BASE+(4* ((1<<4) \| (1<<3)) )
02:26:52	funman	and bit 3 of value read will represent pin 3, bit 4 pin 4, etc ..
02:27:06	kugel	funman: the buttons require clearing the lcd data out of the pins, so I need write to them one by one.
02:27:22	kugel	I added a rather high delay between, but the values differ
02:27:50	funman	you want to ask dany_21_a since he owns a fuze and is very skilled in electronics
02:28:01	kugel	da
02:28:04	kugel	oops
02:28:18	kugel	if I see him I'll definitely do so
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02:37:02	kugel	funman: writing 1 to all doing "((volatile unsigned char)(GPIOC_BASE+4*(0xff))) = 0xff;" should work, right?
02:38:31	kugel	Ah, I think I just got what the data base tells me
02:38:41	funman	in theory, yes
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02:51:18	kugel	grr, why does this function return BUTTON_RIGHT even if I don't press it
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03:00:05	kugel	linuxstb: Are you sure the lcd needs GPIOB/C AFSEL?`I commented it out, and it still seems to work
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03:10:34	JdGordon	is bubbles in the manual?
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03:13:01	*	JdGordon hopes he isnt goign to have to redo 30 screenshots
03:16:15	JdGordon	:) looks like I wont
03:17:12	JdGordon	pixelma2: you still here?
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04:34:47	JdGordon	anyone got a text file with a BOM ?
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06:26:07	Ebert	anyone know the Exact status of M:robe remote control's function
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08:44:54	GreenDelta	hey there
08:45:18	GreenDelta	is there now any possibilty to get Rockbox working on an iPod classic 80GB?
08:45:28	B4gder	no
08:46:12	GreenDelta	and is there any possibility that it will be supported in the next time?
08:46:20	B4gder	not likely, no
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08:46:39	GreenDelta	and why? is it this hard on the classic or whats the problem with it
08:47:00	B4gder	nobody works on it, but yes it is hard
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08:47:34	GreenDelta	damn.... i really liked rockbox on my nano and i was really wondering what it will do with my iPod :p
08:47:45	GreenDelta	u now any other linux ipod project supporting classic?
08:48:04	B4gder	Rockbox is not Linux
08:48:26	B4gder	and no, I don't know of any other firmware-replacing project to mention at all
08:53:58	GreenDelta	hmm. i always thought rockbox was based on a linux kernel...
08:54:07	B4gder	you and 22 million others did
08:54:14	GreenDelta	xD
08:54:28	GreenDelta	ok, u wrote a own kernel? or on what its based?
08:54:39	B4gder	it's written entirely from scratch
08:54:43	GreenDelta	ok
08:54:44	B4gder	based on nothing
08:54:51	GreenDelta	thats impressin
08:54:51	GreenDelta	g
08:56:10	GreenDelta	what OS are u using? cause i am using linux and i have some problems with my classic like most programms dont want to connect to it.
08:57:01	advcomp2019	GreenDelta, that is off topic
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08:59:57	GreenDelta	in some way it is, in another not. i wanted to use rockbox to have my iPod working better with my OS, but as thats not possible id like to search another reason for this prob and were else should i ask?...
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09:00:29	B4gder	we talk Rockbox in here, pretty strictly on rockbox related stuff
09:00:56	Zagor	#rockbox-community is for off-topic chat with rockbox people
09:01:35	JdGordon	social chat... not off topic support...
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09:01:58	Zagor	JdGordon: indeed
09:03:23	kugel	JdGordon: but there's everything on-topic except rockbox
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09:09:03	kugel	Zagor: the new deletion and insertion info on FS exceeds the blue box
09:09:31	Zagor	kugel: on which task?
09:10:16	kugel	Zagor: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9581 for example. Basically every patch with many deletions/insertions
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09:11:21	Zagor	you probably have the old css file cached. try shift-reload in your browser.
09:12:27	kugel	"shift-reload"?
09:12:46	kugel	ah got it
09:12:50	kugel	thanks
09:13:04	kugel	although the text is pretty small now
09:14:02	Zagor	small but readable I hope? the idea with those diffstats is to give a good overview of the patch.
09:14:28	kugel	that looks like font size 5 or something
09:14:38	Zagor	it's font size 75%
09:15:03	kugel	yea, it's readable. But I imagine other people might have problems
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09:16:00	Zagor	upping to 80%. better?
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09:17:34	kugel	definitely
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10:32:26	pondlife	Zagor: Shall I log the Flyspray issue where new bugs get an invalid severity? This then renders badly - see http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9563 and look at the tabs.
10:32:56	pondlife	This isn't a new issue, I can't recall if you said it wasn't easily fixable..
10:33:23	Zagor	yes, log it.
10:41:10	Zagor	fixed now I think
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10:41:42	Zagor	eh, no :)
10:42:47	Zagor	there
10:42:52	pondlife	The issue is more the creation of bugs, not the rendering
10:43:00	Zagor	I know. that's what I fixed.
10:43:07	pondlife	Thanks :)
10:43:17	*	pondlife won't log a dummy bug
10:43:56	Zagor	I'll go through the database and add the missing severities
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11:18:49	B4gder	http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2008/11/28/rockbox-is-not-linux/
11:18:56	B4gder	there you go, it's said now
11:21:15	*	B4gder realizes that won't help one bit but it felt good to post anyway
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11:39:02	J-23	shouldn't Rockbox be renamed to RINL - RINL Is Not Linux? :D
11:39:41	Dieterbe	:)
11:40:33	Unhelpful	nah, people would think it was some kind of joke, and that rockbox was really linux. :/
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11:49:12	dany_21a_	hi funman... could you by chance commit that http://paste.ubuntu.com/77673/plain/ , its a copy/paste error which destroys the lcd-rect-update function for the fuze (which eg. makes the top status bar flickering)
11:49:30	dany_21a_	(i already mentioned it in the thread)
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11:52:15	funman	dany_21a_: ok
11:52:53	looping_	Ooh, I am going to have some hard time converting my 4th gen iPod to FAT32 on my diskless computer running on LiveCD... :p
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11:53:48	dany_21a_	funman: thx :)
11:54:51	funman	dany_21a_: it's done
11:55:27	funman	did you read kugel progress on the buttons for the Fuze?
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12:03:35	dany_21a_	funman: okay..just read the live feed... btw i already wonderd where the ISR is which updates the int_btn variable, which is used by button_read_device
12:03:51	funman	easy : there is none
12:04:03	dany_21a_	therefor grep didnt worked :)
12:04:08	dany_21a_	and how is it done?
12:04:15	funman	the code has been copy/pasted from e200v1 and there is a lot of left over
12:04:22	funman	active polling
12:04:23	dany_21a_	oh
12:06:23	dany_21a_	could you point me an example, where buttons are checked?
12:06:38	funman	hm I don't know
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12:07:03	funman	bootloader/sansa_as3525.c ?
12:07:30	dany_21a_	no... i meant checked by rockbox
12:07:35	dany_21a_	(not the bootloader)
12:07:56	funman	I suppose it is a tick task
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12:12:19	dany_21a_	okay... thx, thats what i was searching
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12:33:02	looping_	I think I might have a RockBox iPod just ready... :) About to reboot it as install process is finished... :)
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13:16:59	Casainho	hello :-)
13:17:31	Casainho	I have one question: why is need to o kernel_init() on bootloader? is kernel needed on bootloader?
13:17:48	LinusN	yes it is
13:18:44	Casainho	and what for? I coudn't understand...
13:18:53	LinusN	the tick interrupt
13:19:05	LinusN	the message queues
13:19:29	Casainho	okok, but they are used on bootloader?
13:19:35	LinusN	yes
13:19:47	LinusN	the tick interrrupt handles delays, for instance
13:20:33	Casainho	can you please look here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxPlayerLittlePrototype and tell me where is it needed, on this bootloader scheme?
13:21:00	Casainho	it's for ATA?
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13:21:08	LinusN	the button driver and ata
13:21:32	Casainho	ah, okok - nice to know :-)
13:22:26	Casainho	so, next I will work on kernel_init() −− can you please tell me if am am correct: we need 2 interrupts, one for kernel tick and other for general use
13:23:06	LinusN	that depends on the target, of cpourse
13:23:15	LinusN	you mean timers?
13:23:33	Casainho	yes, timers, resources of MCU... ??
13:23:46	Casainho	I would like to know how many should our MCU have...
13:24:13	LinusN	you need at least one for the tick
13:24:29	LinusN	but it's always nice to have one more
13:25:21	Casainho	ok, our MCU have 2 timers... so, one for the tick and other for general use?
13:25:54	funman	Casainho: yes, like I told you yesterday :-)
13:26:12	Casainho	I tough funman :-)
13:26:32	Casainho	funman: sorry, mistake. Okok :-)
13:26:40	Casainho	I am just cleraring my ideas :-)
13:27:00	Casainho	I am also writing a kind of report to other developers :-)
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13:30:29	Casainho	is ok this bootloader scheme? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxPlayerLittlePrototype
13:31:06	LinusN	Casainho: just check all the existing bootloaders and do the same
13:31:37	Casainho	okok - thats what I did :-)
13:31:49	Casainho	so, I hope it's ok, that scheme
13:32:17	LinusN	Casainho: why do you have to decide that now?
13:32:34	Casainho	I am following the Gigabeat port, with the s3c2440 since is the same ARM core as our player
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13:34:00	funman	clip simulator, now supports greylib :) http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/7587/clipsimpn0.png
13:34:31	B4gder	whoa!
13:34:54	B4gder	that screen looks even crazier this way
13:35:22	Casainho	thanks and bye bye
13:35:23	Zagor	so it's not just split in two colors, there's also a line of missing pixels in it?
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13:35:48	funman	in fact, 2 lines
13:36:16	Zagor	haha, ok. lovely screen!
13:36:17	funman	the half drew bottom line in mandelbrot is not my work though :)
13:36:39	funman	I have put the diff on FS #9521 , i'll welcome comments (i.e. confirmation it's not too hackish)
13:37:30	Llorean	Is graylib expected to work on-target (or does it, if you've already tested)?
13:37:31	B4gder	Zagor: will you update the frontpage from svn to get linuxstb's recent change?
13:38:01	funman	Llorean: yup it works (not sure how well since I never seen it on other devices)
13:38:04	Zagor	B4gder: it's already there
13:38:15	B4gder	oh
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13:42:58	*	gevaerts wants to see an out-of-focus photo of the real clip with graylib ;)
13:43:30	linuxstb	Zagor: Thanks.
13:43:42	B4gder	blueyellowgreylib is the new name
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13:47:04	gevaerts	Also red. Don't forget the mr100!
13:47:10	B4gder	silly me
13:47:19	funman	sorry I have a camera but not the cable
13:47:38	gevaerts	We're only missing green to have a proper colour greylib :)
13:48:02	linuxstb	Doesn't yellow+blue = green?
13:48:38	gevaerts	not in RGB colourspace :)
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13:53:32	pixelma	depends on the way the colours are "mixed" - additive or subtractive
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13:57:14	pondlife	Hmm, did anyone comment on the weird red delta that was apparently caused by lang files in r19244 - http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi
13:58:02	pondlife	Neither of the commits either side should have had much effect - and all builds were green.
13:59:27	pondlife	Does he build system automatically size buffers based on the language files?
13:59:30	pixelma	pondlife: the language buffer size is made dependent on what the biggest language needs and I think that thai has become the biggest (unicode) and the delta is only RAM usage
13:59:33	pondlife	s/he/the
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15:11:05	kugel	greylib look awesome when not doing grey imho
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15:12:59	funman	the sim without background is running demistify demo, and the one with background, mandelbrot
15:13:54	kugel	ah, two different sim picks, ok :)
15:14:03	kugel	s/picks/pics/
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17:47:00	kugel	saratoga: pong
17:47:46	saratoga	kugel: i want to look at the fuze buttons a little
17:48:03	saratoga	you mentioned them not working in RB, so I guess I should be looking at the bootloader?
17:48:05	kugel	saratoga: cool. I could definitely need help
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17:48:34	kugel	saratoga: the button code for the bootloader and main is the same (except maybe for code in button.c)
17:49:02	saratoga	but if I wanted to, for example, try blinking an LED in response to button presses I'd have to try that in the bootloader?
17:49:15	saratoga	was thinking of looking for the scrollwheel
17:49:35	funman	saratoga: you can use printf() / reset_screen() in the bootloader
17:49:43	kugel	saratoga: in the bootloader you can also add printf the return of button_read_device
17:49:52	kugel	-add
17:50:31	kugel	saratoga: hm, the scrollwheel isn't supported by the button drive yet, so yea, you'd need to find another debug mechanism
17:50:32	funman	jdgordon wondered if interrupts on the gpios would happen if the pins are set to dbop in gpio._afsel registers (I doubt this but it's worth an experiment)
17:51:14	saratoga	funman: is it a safe assumption that the OF uses interrupts to read the scroll wheel?
17:51:15	kugel	funman: I tried disable_irq_save() and restore after without success
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17:52:24	kugel	I got the power and down button to work. But the other buttons "work" without them being pressed
17:52:56	funman	saratoga: as far as i can see there is no isr for the gpio in the OF (only timer1, dma, usb, i2sout, i2sin, nand (= internal sd), sd (slot), and i2c audio
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17:53:42	funman	did you disassemble the Fuze OF ?
17:53:56	saratoga	funman: no I was hoping to avoid that
17:53:56	funman	kugel: try to revert the meaning of these pins ?
17:54:13	saratoga	so the OF likely polls devices then?
17:54:35	funman	saratoga: on my side i'm focused on disassembly of the Clip but there is a lot of similarities across all models
17:55:15	funman	fdinel (atomikpunk) focused on finding the button code in the Fuze OF, and he came to the conclusion that DBOP was used to read them (as mentioned on the forum thread)
17:55:19	saratoga	i've really only dissassembled my own code, so I'm not sure how useful I'd be looking at the OF
17:55:40	kugel	funman: no, that doesn't work
17:55:43	funman	it requires lots of free time :)
17:56:01	saratoga	i was going to try listening for DBOP interrupts when I spin the wheel
17:56:05	funman	kugel: but these buttons are detected correctly in the bootloader, right?
17:56:18	kugel	funman: unfortunately the scrollwheel isn't within that similarities
17:56:35	kugel	funman: yep
17:56:41	funman	saratoga: hum .. DBOP stands for "Data Block Output Port"
17:57:03	kugel	I have svn bootloader, so the pins in svn are correct. I only edited for main
17:57:24	funman	well I can see both data in & data out registers
17:58:05	kugel	funman: don't confuse when the dbop is configured to GPIO input
17:58:09	funman	saratoga: sounds like a good idea, try on pop fifo * full
17:58:29	funman	kugel: ? (you're confusing me)
17:59:08	kugel	you're using GPIOB/C as dbop if you set afsel.
17:59:32	funman	no, it's either gpio either dbop, not gpio "as" dbop
17:59:52	saratoga	funman: I believe it can read too but I could be misunderstanding the diagram
17:59:55	kugel	yes
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18:00:05	funman	saratoga: look page 85: "no interrupt support is given, for data input the read data valid flag must be polled"
18:00:19	kugel	I understood that
18:01:21	funman	kugel: I know you understand, just please give special attention to the words you use, it's easy to be confused ;)
18:01:53	kugel	I mean if you set afsel you control dbop through the "gpio" port, or am I wrong here?
18:02:02	funman	yes
18:02:07	funman	(you are wrong)
18:02:24	funman	depending on the afsel setting, you can use the gpio, or not
18:03:04	saratoga	funman: I don't understand why the DBOP would be used in the first place, it offers no advantage over GPIO here
18:03:05	funman	to use the physical pin as dbop, just use the dbop controller through its dbop registers
18:03:28	saratoga	actually, if DBOP and GPIO share a physical pin, couldn't you use either?
18:03:29	funman	saratoga: really i can't tell, atomikpunk might have an idea
18:03:51	funman	not if the pin is already used somewhere else
18:04:07	saratoga	?
18:04:16	funman	I think bertrik found that the FM radio was using 2 gpio pins
18:04:38	funman	perhaps they didn't have enough pins left to connect the wheel
18:04:58	saratoga	i mean the balls on the bottom of the chip, surely the wheel must have its own 4 balls that are unshared
18:05:17	kugel	there's plenty of free pins in B and D (at least they're unknown for us)
18:06:03	funman	hm i read the gpio_afsel description again and it says "DBOP mode control or GPIO mode control on this pin"
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18:06:51	kugel	going by the lcd driver, it just sets the afsel once in the init, but never uses any of the GPIO* macros, only DBOP ones
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18:07:38	funman	right, I understand that the DBOP controller control these pins, and not the GPIO controller
18:07:51	saratoga	well anyway, some experimentation is in order
18:08:04	saratoga	what the easiest way to stall the bootloader so I can print to the screen
18:08:16	saratoga	without brikcing my fuze
18:08:23	funman	insert printf("something"); while(1) ;
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18:08:41	funman	the dualboot logic is in mkamsboot, so you can put what you want in the rockbox bootloader
18:09:13	funman	be it real code, buggy code, or /dev/urandom; you'll still be able to dual boot to the OF (and by extension, put another bootloader)
18:09:49	kugel	saratoga: the bootloader is pretty much as safe as the main build. Dual boot isn't controlled by any of both, but seperate code
18:09:54	saratoga	funman: [just to make sure I understand] if I flash the sansa with a buggy bootloader, the dual boot code still works?
18:10:03	kugel	yes
18:11:00	saratoga	and to install test bootloaders, I just do the same procedure as before using mkamsboot?
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18:11:49	kugel	yep
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18:12:41	domonoky	saratoga: only the code in rbutil/mkamsboot/dualboot.S is critical. everything else should be recoverable.
18:15:45	funman	the rockbox bootloader is compressed and dualboot.S+nrv2e_d8.S is responsible for dualboot/extraction (of both rockbox and OF)
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18:21:20	funman	oh atomikpunk is browsing the forums, perhaps you can ask him details
18:22:34	kugel	ehh
18:23:14	kugel	every few seconds the display flickers and apparently a press on select is emitted
18:24:02	kugel	I don't press select at all. for 3s after boot nothing happens, then the display flickers and select "is pressed", then another 3s nothing
18:26:46	kugel	how is this possible
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18:35:33	saratoga	since doing SVN up, the bootloader is showing me the rockbxo splash
18:35:37	saratoga	anyone else notice this
18:40:58	kugel	saratoga: I think it was reported before
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18:44:12	BlinkyBil	hey! anyone have any knowledge of the open neo project? it's a fork off rockbox...their sourceforge-site hasn't moved since 2003....
18:44:42	n1s	BlinkyBil: yes, we know of it
18:45:23	BlinkyBil	how well? i've got one of those car players, but can't figure the thing out
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18:45:34	BlinkyBil	nad, well, there's not much info out there
18:45:40	BlinkyBil	hm, nad should be and
18:46:02	n1s	BlinkyBil: rockbox does not support those players and the fork was made a very long time ago
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18:48:28	BlinkyBil	yeah, I kinda figured. I'll ask this though, since there's a slim chance the error is similar to something you know from rockbox: it says "no fat32 partition!" when I start it up. If I take the drive out and put it in the computer, there is a partition, and all files are there
18:49:16	n1s	BlinkyBil: while this is in fact off topic here i would suggest running a filesystem check on the drive
18:50:03	Llorean	And making sure the partition's FAT32 and note NTFS or ext or HFS+ or something else.
18:50:11	Llorean	*not
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18:51:33	BlinkyBil	righto, I'll do that. pretty sure it is though, cause it worked just an hour ago, but something happened when I tried updating it
18:51:35	BlinkyBil	thanks
18:52:26	Llorean	BlinkyBil: Anyway, if you have future questions, please go to the people actually providing you with the software.
18:53:34	BlinkyBil	would if I could. it's all discontinued :/
18:53:43	BlinkyBil	anyway, and this is on-topic
18:53:45	BlinkyBil	:
18:54:01	BlinkyBil	is there any chance rockbox will be supported on newer sony players?
18:54:34	BlinkyBil	or older ones, for that matter
18:54:58	Llorean	Rockbox is a volunteer project.
18:55:09	Llorean	Basically, it happens if people owning the players do the work
18:57:24	BlinkyBil	right...I'll have a look at the documentation then, see if there's any chance I can do it...have a couple sony-players already :)
18:57:26	BlinkyBil	thanks again
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19:04:30	pixelma2	I wonder how far MarcGuay got with the one line of Sony players that had a quite familiar coldfire CPU
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19:13:18	saratoga	is there a delay function available in the bootloader?
19:13:57	funman	sleep(secs*HZ) I believe
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19:23:17	n1s	i think it depends on which bootloader you are talking about
19:30:21	funman	saratoga: or you can use busy loop
19:30:38	funman	i=0x200000;while(i−−); should last 1 second
19:31:43	funman	sleep() in kernel.h isn't conditional on !BOOTLOADER so it should work, n1s why do you think it's dependant of the bootloader?
19:32:04	saratoga	funman: thats what I ended up doing, but I needed a much larger value to get a 2 second delay
19:32:11	saratoga	oh thats hex
19:32:12	saratoga	yeah ok
19:33:01	n1s	funman: i seem to remember that being the case and that udelay had to be used in some places becuse of that, but maybe i'm wrong or outdated and best ignored :)
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19:35:31	Photoguy	For some reason, Sudoku is messed up.
19:36:07	gevaerts	Of course. Real queue is much better
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19:36:38	kugel	linuxstb: ping
19:36:55	*	kugel would really like to talk with a e200v2 guy
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19:38:17	kugel	linuxstb: can you answer some questions about the fuze lcd driver?
19:38:22	saratoga	funman: if I read from AS3525_GPIO1_BASE does it give me all the GPIOA pins or do I have to deal with the built in masking logic?
19:38:40	kugel	saratoga: the latter
19:39:15	kugel	saratoga: GPIO*_BASE+(1<<2\|1<<3\|...\|1<<9)
19:39:28	bluebrother	Photoguy: messed up?
19:39:48	Photoguy	Yeah, sometimes the puzzle is wrong..
19:39:59	Photoguy	Like it has the wrong numbers in the wrong places.
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19:40:42	kugel	saratoga: also do pin+2
19:40:47	kugel	always*
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19:41:13	bluebrother	I don't understand this. How exactly does this happen?
19:42:25	kugel	saratoga: I already tried finding other buttons over gpio* without success
19:43:11	Photoguy	Like, there is no other place for the number to go..
19:43:55	gevaerts	Photoguy: do you have an example of a wrong puzzle?
19:43:56	Photoguy	It has all the numbers in a line, except for one, and the only possible number is..
19:44:15	Photoguy	Say...4 or something, but it says illegal move!
19:44:40	bluebrother	and you're sure all numbers put in are correct?
19:44:55	Photoguy	9-8-7-6-1-2-3-4..5..no illegal move!
19:45:03	Photoguy	Along that line they are.
19:45:18	bluebrother	and along all other lines and boxes?
19:45:20	gevaerts	No other numbers in the entire puzzle?
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19:45:29	Photoguy	Oh..
19:45:45	Photoguy	Are you supposed to adjust the numbers that re already there?
19:45:59	bluebrother	no.
19:46:10	Photoguy	Well, that's what it's doing..
19:46:16	*	gevaerts would like to see a screenshot
19:46:22	Photoguy	Ok..
19:46:25	Photoguy	Hold on..
19:46:27	bluebrother	unless the puzzle is made up by someone else and contains errors ...
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19:49:26	kugel	linuxstb: did you mess with fifo in your lcd driver work?
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19:51:11	Photoguy	How on earth can I get a screenshot?
19:51:20	Photoguy	Cameras don't really work.
19:51:52	bluebrother	you can use the screenshot feature from the debug menu ... but beware, once enabled it will use a usb connection to trigger a screenshot
19:52:08	Photoguy	Oh..
19:52:16	Photoguy	Then that's a problem..
19:52:26	Photoguy	My usb cable is shot.
19:52:40	bluebrother	then use a camera :)
19:52:42	Photoguy	The only way too trigger is via usb?
19:52:49	bluebrother	yes.
19:52:56	Photoguy	Bother it all..
19:52:58	bluebrother	on the sim it's F8 IIRC
19:53:08	Photoguy	I need a Cowon D2.
19:53:09	amiconn	F5
19:53:11	gevaerts	It only needs to detect a connection, usb doesn't need to actually work properly
19:53:22	Photoguy	Ok.
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19:53:34	Photoguy	But both are actually messed up..
19:53:45	Photoguy	The player connection, and the cable.
19:53:48	*	bluebrother stands corrected
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19:57:52	Photoguy	So it's F5 in the sim?
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20:00:18	Photoguy	Ok, here is a screenie..
20:00:19	Photoguy	http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/1012470/Sudoku.jpg.html
20:00:40	Photoguy	When I move it says "Ilegall move"
20:02:02	pixelma	well, it would be since there already is a 5 in the 3x3 box
20:02:23	pixelma	do you know the Sudoku rules?
20:03:05	Photoguy	Yes..
20:03:31	Photoguy	I guess that if you put a number that doesn't conflict, it doesn't know it's wrong..
20:04:07	gevaerts	It does know, but it won't tell you
20:04:11	Photoguy	Right.
20:04:32	Photoguy	So as long as it doesn't conflict, then it doesn't tell you?
20:04:44	Photoguy	Man, that adds another dimension :P
20:04:58	gevaerts	If it did, where would the difficulty be?
20:05:00	bluebrother	pixelma: around?
20:05:38	n1s	why does it tell you when you make an illegal move at all?
20:05:58	Photoguy	Well, another electronic version, it told it was wrong even if it didn't conflict at the moment.
20:06:31	bluebrother	that's not fun :)
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20:06:40	gevaerts	So you could "solve" it by just trying all numbers?
20:07:52	Photoguy	Ok..
20:08:03	*	Photoguy gives up/
20:08:08	Photoguy	Thanks.
20:08:31	Photoguy	Another problem..
20:08:33	Photoguy	Sorry.
20:09:10	Photoguy	Spacerocks, after playing for about a minute or two, it says "illegal instruction"
20:09:31	gevaerts	What revision are you running?
20:09:32	Photoguy	Then a few numbers that are diffrent every time..
20:09:36	Photoguy	Latest
20:10:00	pixelma	bluebrother: yes
20:11:40	Photoguy	Ah..
20:11:45	Photoguy	It just did it..
20:12:17	Photoguy	"Undefined instruction at 7000821C (0)"
20:12:33	saratoga	is there someway to clear the screen in the bootloader?
20:13:21	linuxstb	kugel: Sorry, I can't help with any of your fuze questions - I just committed to SVN what I understood the OF to be doing (rightly or wrongly).
20:13:46	n1s	Photoguy: are you running 3.0 or a non-current rev of svn?
20:13:55	Photoguy	3.0
20:14:07	gevaerts	3.0 shouldn't have spacerocks...
20:14:08	n1s	Photoguy: that is a known bug which is fixed in svn
20:14:15	Photoguy	Huh..
20:14:19	Photoguy	Ok, so update..
20:15:15	n1s	gevaerts: ?
20:15:22	Photoguy	Sorry, in the svn?
20:15:29	Photoguy	The latest build?
20:15:31	kugel	linuxstb: 1 question would be why it's LCD_WIDTH -1 and _HEIGHT -1 instead of full screen (like on the e200v2
20:15:32	kugel	)
20:15:52	n1s	Photoguy: yes, svn is the source repo, which current builds are made form
20:15:57	pixelma	n1s: plugins with severe bugs where excluded from the release
20:16:05	Photoguy	Ok, I see.
20:16:10	Photoguy	Sorry about that.
20:16:28	gevaerts	Photoguy: to make sure, can you go to System->Rockbox info, and tell us what it says after Version:?
20:16:48	kugel	linuxstb: The lcd driver is far from working well. It disturbs buttons, it flickers frequently (which apparently emits some kind of button press)
20:17:46	n1s	pixelma: aha
20:17:58	linuxstb	kugel: What is LCD_WIDTH-1 and LCD_HEIGHT-1 ?
20:18:37	n1s	pixelma, gevaerts: it is not in apps/plugins/SOURCES in my release branch checkout at least
20:18:42	Photoguy	I want a D2 next I think.
20:18:54	Photoguy	My E-200 is getting pretty beat.
20:19:09	bluebrother	pixelma: what do you think about something like this: http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/snapshot2.png ?
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20:19:28	gevaerts	n1s: I know. I removed it myself :)
20:20:12	pixelma	bluebrother: is this the workaround for the small caps problem?
20:20:14	kugel	linuxstb: e.g. in lcd_update_rect, it fixes x,y,width,height to 0,0,LCD_WIDTH-1 and LCD_HEIGHT-1
20:20:27	linuxstb	Yes...
20:20:30	kugel	it appears to not do fullscreen, while the e200v2 does
20:20:39	bluebrother	yep −− it's simply replacing \textsc with \hl from the soul package and using light grey as hilighting color
20:21:00	Photoguy	Is the Cowon D2 sim download working for anyone else?
20:21:07	bluebrother	for some strange reason \caps has issues.
20:21:25	kugel	linuxstb: also in lcd_update: lcd_window_x(0, LCD_WIDTH - 1);
20:21:50	pixelma	bluebrother: I'm not sure it's confusing me a bit because it already looks like highlit search results
20:22:31	Photoguy	When I download, it's says there are no files to extract.
20:22:40	kugel	Another question I have is that the fuze lcd uses different registers than e200v2 (they mostly seem to off by 1, e.g. the (supposedly) same register is 0x45 in e200v2 and 0x46 in fuze)
20:23:14	n1s	bluebrother: how about just using a different font for the \setting macro?
20:23:25	Photoguy	rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/
20:23:26	bluebrother	pixelma: the blue is actually a search result hilighting ;-)
20:23:32	Photoguy	Can someone try the D2?
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20:23:35	linuxstb	kugel: If it's wrong, then just fix it. I don't have a fuze. But in some places it will be "width", and others is "max_x" (like lcd_window_x) - don't confuse the two. If you want, I can point you to where in the OF I found those functions, and you can double-check my reverse-engineering.
20:23:40	Photoguy	It says the file is corrupt.
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20:23:54	bluebrother	n1s: that's another option, but can you recommend one that makes the result still look good?
20:24:01	pixelma	bluebrother: I know, but that's the colour in your desktop theme/pdf viewer whatever...
20:24:04	n1s	no...
20:24:28	bluebrother	I was looking around for font variants but didn't found anything I was satisfied with
20:24:41	Photoguy	rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/
20:24:43	Photoguy	Can someone try the D2?
20:24:46	bluebrother	optimally the small caps thing would work correctly ...
20:24:46	Photoguy	It says the file is corrupt.
20:24:59	bluebrother	Photoguy: why are you pasting the same link multiple times?
20:25:21	Photoguy	Because everybody keeps missing it.
20:25:31	kugel	linuxstb: hmm yea, although I doubtfully understand much, I'd really like to know where and how you found that stuff in the OF
20:25:38	pixelma	bluebrother: maybe automatically enclosing the settings in "" or maybe using italic (not sure that exists)
20:25:40	Photoguy	Or ignoring :-\
20:26:36	n1s	bluebrother: could it be that my suspicion that in pdf it has to be 2 different strings because the large capital (first letter of each word) has to use a different font size and pdf viewers are not smart enough to handle that?
20:27:14	n1s	iow, no way to fix the sc style and maintaining the Title Case
20:27:27	Photoguy	Forget it..
20:27:30	bluebrother	possible. But strangely I was able searching up to the first letter of the next word. Not sure if that was using soul or not
20:27:35	*	gevaerts can't reach rasher's site apparently
20:27:37	Photoguy	Thanks for the help that was given anyway..
20:28:04	gevaerts	Photoguy: can you still reach rasher.dk?
20:28:11	pixelma	n1s: according to the bug report it even sees it as single letters, e.g. the html version puts every single letter into a <span> container
20:28:23	bluebrother	also, with soul the html output works fine. Just the pdf searching isn't :(
20:28:25	Photoguy	Yes, but the D2 Sim is corrupt
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20:29:26	n1s	pixelma: yes but searching for the words excluding the first letter works in pdf but maybe that is a pdf viewer being smart thing
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20:30:33	pixelma	n1s: there are differences in the pdf viewers, I can search for the whole word in Acrobat just fine
20:30:35	n1s	just as searching works in the html manual in firefox for example
20:30:57	linuxstb	kugel: The key is finding the long series of register writes in lcd_init - that's relatively easy to find by browsing through a dissasembly, and that code calls the lcd_write_reg/data functions. You can then search the disassembly for other functions calling lcd_write_reg/data
20:32:06	gevaerts	rasher: ping
20:32:43	n1s	maybe preglow knows of a nice font for this?
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20:36:42	pixelma	bluebrother: what about different text styles like italic or underline?
20:37:33	kugel	linuxstb: which program did you use to create that?
20:37:56	mark726	hello all...does anybody know if my ipod installed with rockbox will sync with Banshee or Gpodder clients?
20:39:01	n1s	pixelma: i think italic is used in other places so that may be a bit confusing, or maybe not
20:40:16	linuxstb	kugel: Just arm-elf-objdump
20:40:26	bluebrother	italics is rather hard to distinguish from the other text. Underline looks too distracting
20:40:42	bluebrother	mark726: why shouldn't it?
20:41:31	mark726	hi bluebrother....havnt installed it yet so i wasnt sure :)
20:41:34	Llorean	mark726: Rockbox doesn't do any syncing, all of that is handled by your PC.
20:41:53	kugel	linuxstb: Ok. I guess comparing our code with the OFs code might give some insight
20:42:06	bluebrother	also, italics are used by \emph (which is the default behaviour and quite sane imo)
20:42:22	bertrik	the 128x96 elephants dream video in mpegplayerplugin gives "Out of memory in stream_init"
20:42:47	mark726	ok..ty That answers it. I was thinking that the only way to load podcasts/music was to drag and drop
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20:43:03	mark726	just found out about this today
20:43:04	bluebrother	no, but most people prefer that
20:43:35	n1s	bertrik: maybe because of the small audio buffer
20:43:40	mark726	im going to install it and give it a shot...thx for the help guys
20:44:02	bertrik	I know next to nothing about video editing unfortunately
20:44:17	pixelma	bluebrother: I can't imagine underline to be more distracting than marking with a different colour (even if it is grey), so what about the "" suggestion?
20:44:30	linuxstb	n1s: Yes, I think libmpeg2 requires some quite large buffers. Running it in the sim and adding a DEBUGF() to the malloc() function should show what it needs.
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20:45:28	n1s	bertrik: linuxstb, i wonder if it could steal the codec buffer, that is a pretty large chunk of the clip's ram?
20:46:18	*	linuxstb isn't sure if mpeg playback on the Clip is a worthwhile goal ;)
20:47:15	n1s	who doesn't want blue/yellow video in 128*64 pixels?
20:47:36	linuxstb	\o
20:48:45	bertrik	and 2 black lines in the top half?
20:49:27	gevaerts	I think you need to hold it upside down and put the subtitles in the yellow bit
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20:50:35	pixelma	just use the lower part and put the "on screen display" on the top
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20:51:42	pixelma	wanted to ask - what font is used as default (guess some 8 pixels tall one)?
20:51:49	pixelma	on the Clip I mean
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20:53:44	linuxstb	pixelma: 08-rockfont according to settings_list.c - that's the default if LCD_HEIGHT <= 64
20:53:46	n1s	gevaerts: or use supertitles ;)
20:53:53	bertrik	the status bar is 8 pixels high and the font is 8 px for cabbiev2 and boxes, so this fits nicely into the 16 yellow top lines
20:54:59	bertrik	so for most menu's the status bar and the menu title are yellow and the rest is cyan, doesn't look too bad actually
20:55:44	pixelma	hmm... would it use Archos or Iriver remote cabbiev2 then...
20:56:06	*	pixelma should probably just try in a sim
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20:57:38	linuxstb	There are a few 128x64x1 targets - iFP, Logik DAX, Sansa m200..
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21:20:11	pixelma2	stupid question but how do I now get the full install with fonts in a sim build?
21:20:34	karashata	make fullinstall
21:20:36	n1s	make fullinstall
21:20:39	*	n1s slow
21:20:53	*	n1s hints about make help
21:21:26	*	pixelma2 somehow put a - ther... :\
21:21:39	pixelma2	there too
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21:31:08	bluebrother	pixelma: sorry, gtg now. cya.
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21:37:53	shelby	Hi guys. :)
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21:43:10	pixelma	linuxstb: it uses the Iriver remote WPS. The wpsbuild script already has some magic to distinguish different remote WPSs for different main screens (see iCatcher) if you put the main screens resolution in the name too. I wonder what would happen if you have a dedicated WPS for 128x64x1 and then the remote WPSs with the main screens resolution in their names
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21:59:48	shelby	hey guys
21:59:50	shelby	hey guys
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22:00:20	shelby	what language is rockbox written in?
22:00:37	domonoky	c and a bit of asm
22:00:45	shelby	oh, thank you.
22:01:41	shelby	now.. im a bit of a n00b to rockbox but i just wondered.. is installation of it as simple as sticking .rockbox directory in the root of your ipod/media device?
22:01:48	shelby	supported media device* :P
22:02:03	linuxstb	No, but it's not much harder - the manual describes the process.
22:02:12	shelby	okay. thank you
22:03:12	shelby	is it possible to write your own applications for rockbox? im interested in how the codebase differs from typical computers
22:04:46	shelby	brb.
22:04:48	domonoky	shelby: manual and rbutil will help you with the install, so its just a few button presses.
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22:05:53	kugel	linuxstb: I'm still curious about that xoffset.
22:06:38	linuxstb	kugel: The LCD controller is (I think - amiconn mentioned it) 240 pixels wide, but the LCD panel is 220.
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22:07:31	kugel	linuxstb: I assume the lcd controller for e200 is the same. There's no such 20px yoffset
22:07:45	linuxstb	The e200 is rotated.
22:08:22	linuxstb	The xoffset variable is used when the display is rotated 180 degrees.
22:08:33	kugel	yea, that's why I said yoffset. But it could of course be that the 20px are at the bottom (so just ignored)
22:09:26	kugel	linuxstb: uhm, as of now, xoffset is default, and no offset when flipped
22:09:44	kugel	xoffset = yesno ? 0 : 20
22:10:04	kugel	also, xoffset initializes with 20 so..
22:10:33	linuxstb	Yes, but lcd_flip will be called by main rockbox (when it loads the settings).
22:10:41	kugel	but yea, if the controller is 240 wide, that makes sense. Is there anything indicating this besides the offset?
22:10:44	amiconn	Yea, because the lcd flip also flips the lcd controller scan direction
22:11:22	amiconn	(at least it does on all targets which support lcd flip)
22:11:22	kugel	linuxstb: you mean flipped lcd is default setting?
22:11:33	linuxstb	kugel: No, but the function will be called with "no".
22:12:02	kugel	ok. So the xoffset is used when not flipped (as I already said)
22:13:32	kugel	linuxstb: how do I dump a firmware file? arm-elf-objdump says "file type not recognized"
22:13:49	linuxstb	arm-elf-objdump -D -b binary -m arm -M force-thumb file.bin > file.txt
22:13:53	linuxstb	(I think...)
22:14:10	linuxstb	You'll also want to extract the main firmware block from the firmware upgrade file.
22:14:37	linuxstb	That was if you want thumb mode - which seems most-used. Skip the -M force-thumb for normal ARM mode.
22:15:10	kugel	what's the difference between thumb and normal code anyway?
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22:15:36	linuxstb	They are two different instruction sets - thumb instructions are 16-bit, normal ARM is 32-bit.
22:15:48	linuxstb	I mean each instruction is that size.
22:16:25	kugel	but no other difference?
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22:17:13	amiconn	Of course there is a difference, otherwise there wouldn't be that choice
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22:18:01	amiconn	Normal arm instructions are more flexible, because you can encode more option bits in this format
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22:19:32	kugel	amiconn: ah ok, thanks. I'll read wikipedia or something on that topic
22:19:42	amiconn	This means that you need a few more thumb instructions to something than you would need in arm mode, making thumb somewhat slower but saving space
22:20:18	amiconn	As a general rule, thumb code is smaller, arm code is faster.
22:23:54	kugel	linuxstb: what's the easiest way to split the firmware block from the of.bin?
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22:26:10	linuxstb	I just use dd - you need to skip the first 1024 bytes (I think), and then copy about 120KB.
22:27:24	kugel	ah yea, thanks
22:27:52	linuxstb	So something like "dd if=fuzea.bin of=fw.bin skip=2 count=240"
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22:33:41	kugel	ok, I found the lcd stuff in the new of, lets see
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22:38:34	shelby	is rockbox based off linux or is it STRICTLY hand coded?
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22:38:58	BigBambi	http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2008/11/28/rockbox-is-not-linux/
22:39:04	Bagder	haha
22:39:12	BigBambi	I've been waiting to use that :)
22:39:20	Bagder	very quick paste indeed
22:39:30	BigBambi	It was ready :)
22:39:41	BigBambi	I need to bind it to a shortcut
22:40:44	ender`	haha
22:41:10	*	ender` wonders if linux is foot coded or something
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22:41:41	Bagder	I hear the tooth fairy wrote it
22:41:57	shelby	lol :D
22:42:17	shelby	i wanna buy whoever wrote rockbox a drink.
22:42:30	shelby	well... i guess ill have to wait like 8 years but then i wanna :D
22:42:44	Bagder	that'll be many drinks then, we're quite a few contributors by now
22:43:25	Bagder	but hey, we appreciate the thought anyway! ;-)
22:45:09	shelby	:) when im 14 i can get a job or something and then ill totally donate
22:46:31	kugel	BigBambi: haha nice one
22:46:37	BigBambi	:)
22:48:01	pixelma2	maybe something for logbot's expression list?
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22:51:47	shelby	where can i get rockbox source code?
22:51:54	*	shelby should be reading the faq :\
22:52:07	Bagder	http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/ for browsing it
22:52:14	shelby	thank you :D
22:52:34	Bagder	http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DocsIndex#For_Developers for further info
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22:55:08	kugel	linuxstb: the newer OF apparently does some more in _display_on
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23:30:18	*	domonoky got another nail into i2s on sansa-ams. We forgot to enable the i2sout_mclck. Now the i2sout fifo at least fills and emptys a few times.. but still not completly right, and ofcourse still no sound.
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23:36:58	bertrik	domonoky, I think I read somewhere in the datasheet that some of the frequencies generated by the PLL are very important to get accurate enough playback rate
23:40:15	domonoky	hm, and i have no idea how fast i should set the i2sout_mclock, for a first try i just set it to the 24Mhz source.
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23:41:39	domonoky	hm, pcm_play_dma_start request a bigger transfer size then we can set in the dma controller :-/
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23:42:27	amiconn	gevaerts: around?
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23:46:42	gevaerts	amiconn: yes
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23:48:52	amiconn	gevaerts: I have another patch that would need testing on armv5 (I resurrected the arm7 16 bit vector_add/sub for that)
23:49:11	*	gevaerts grabs his d2
23:49:19	amiconn	If I calculated correctly it should be a little faster (filtered compression levels only, i.e. -c2000 and up)
23:49:45	amiconn	amiconn.dyndns.org/~jens/demac.diff">http://amiconn.dyndns.org/~jens/demac.diff
23:50:55	gevaerts	I get a 404 for that
23:51:16	amiconn	Eh, sorry, try again now
23:51:47	gevaerts	building now
23:51:49	amiconn	It helps to actually press Ctrl-V in explorer :)
23:51:58	gevaerts	:)
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23:57:42	*	gevaerts probably has to retry the c1000 test for clean r19248
23:58:11	gevaerts	It's exactly 3.00% less than this one, so I suspect a typo there

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