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#rockbox log for 2008-12-24

00:00:04*amiconn is rather disappointed by this release
00:00:27Bagderamiconn: why?
00:00:43scorche|shwell, we did decide to make this time-based rather than feature-based...this should be expected...
00:01:00Bagderand we've talked about it and preparing everyone for two weeks time
00:01:17amiconnYes, and I mentioned this necessity several times
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00:01:48amiconn(the bumping of the flash image version for the release, but not too long before)
00:01:51Bagderand yet you didn't do it, nor did you say it was important
00:02:05Bagderhence I proceeded
00:03:05amiconnI mentioned it several times, last time about 15 hours ago
00:03:14Bagdernot to me
00:03:29Bagderand wasn't 15 hours ago "close enough" ?
00:03:42amiconnhttp://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20081223#08:52:52
00:04:03Bagderand why isn't this mentioned in the Releasechecklist if this is so important? why didn't you respond to a single of my mails about the release?
00:04:44amiconnIt's not in the checklist because it doesn't apply to every release, only if we want new flash images
00:05:01LloreanIs there some reason we shouldn't have new flash images with every release?
00:05:09BagderI still think you're making things hard for me by not helping me out
00:05:44Bagderputting things in the IRC channel hoping that I will read logs is not helpful to me
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00:07:25amiconnLlorean: It's unnecessary if nothing changed in the flash loader, and nothing important changed for low-level code affecting bootbox
00:07:41amiconnA full flash is always more risky thatn flashing just an .ucl
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00:08:49BagderZagor: can you update the www from svn?
00:08:55Zagorsure
00:08:57amiconnIf we don't make new flash images, the available ones will of course still contain the older release, but that can be changed easily by the user
00:09:08Bagderah and add a project news item
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00:09:47amiconnBut this time there is a significant change in the flash loader - the faster decompressor
00:10:42*amiconn is running (unpublished) flash images with that asm decompressor on all his archoses
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00:13:14ZagorBagder: are you adding it, or should I?
00:13:30Bagderplease do!
00:14:17Zagorok
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00:14:36LambdaCalculus37Is it timew?
00:14:40LambdaCalculus37s/timew/time
00:14:56kugelahh
00:15:16kugelmajor issue! the ReleaseNotes link on the releases page leads to the 3.0 release notes!
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00:15:41HillshumZagor: edit that while at it
00:15:52Bagderyou think anyone will notice? ;-)
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00:16:09kugelactually, yes
00:16:11gevaertsSomeone did :)
00:16:14*Zagor scurries
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00:16:30mib_ljp1nv6hRbUtil 1.08 doesn't exist
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00:16:51gevaertsIt does. Not all mirrors are up to date yet, but...
00:17:00Bagderthe mirrors should all have it shortly
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00:17:56LambdaCalculus37MarcGuay: Welcome. Did you bring beer for the release party? :)
00:18:23*kugel congratulates everyone to the release
00:18:28MarcGuayThe cheapest I could find.
00:18:45*LambdaCalculus37 brings beer from Brooklyn
00:18:45kugelthe cheaper, the more! no problem
00:18:58*MarcGuay wonders about the different uses of m and v in RbUtil as well...
00:19:44BagderI think it's a secret message to us from the rbutil guys that we haven't cracked yet
00:20:06lostlogicBagder: didn't you mean Happy Chanukah? Christmas isn't until Thursday :-D
00:20:20webguest22could someone fix the typo in the release announcement on the wiki: "featues" -> "features"
00:20:42Bagdernow now, let's all imagine a very loong time zone where we all have celebrate christmas at once!
00:20:44Hillshumlostlogic Christmas Eve Eve
00:20:58scorche|shand Hanukkah! ;)
00:21:04Bagderand then imagine me being able to type that properly
00:21:19webguest22oh and congrats everyone on the release :)
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00:25:55Hillshumsomebody ancouce the release in the topic
00:26:09LambdaCalculus37Bagder's doing that.
00:26:26Bagdernah, I'm doing the forum announce
00:26:53Mode"#rockbox +o scorche|sh " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
00:27:01Topic"The topic for #rockbox is: Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | 3.1 is Released!" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
00:27:08Topic"The topic for #rockbox is: Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | 3.1 is released!" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
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00:27:41Tangent1is it possible to remove the "recording" option on the main menu?
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00:27:47amiconnBagder: Please have a look at my attempt to document the extra steps necessary for new flash images (wiki
00:27:54scorche|shTangent1: sure...if you edit the code and compile your own build
00:28:15Tangent1exceeds my skill level
00:28:20Tangent1thanks though
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00:28:45gevaertsTangent1: buy a player that doesn't do recording?
00:29:05Tangent1i want it out becuase I don't think my ipod does do recording
00:29:23LloreanTangent1: It does do recording, but you need a dock adapter.
00:29:25scorche|shthat opion wouldnt be there if your device doesnt record
00:29:30scorche|shoption too
00:29:44HillshumThere is a line out in the dock connector
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00:30:16Tangent1i gotcha
00:30:32lostlogicscorche|sh: I love how we can't even agree on how to spell it :)
00:30:51scorche|shlostlogic: well, pretty much any spelling is correct nowadays... =)
00:31:09Bagderamiconn: I'd like step 2, 6 and 7 to be automated like all the other builds are, to reduce the risks of manual mistakes and decrease the work
00:32:00amiconnHmm, step 6 and 7 cannot be easily automated
00:32:25gartral1umm... the download links on the rbutil page report bad
00:32:49Bagdergartral1: wait 5 mins and try again
00:33:04Bagderthe mirrors aren't entirely synced yet
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00:33:19amiconnThe problem is that the start address for the 2nd image (which is important e.g. for rombox) is only known after test-assembling the flash images
00:33:23gartral1ohh... i know how too work around that, thanks
00:34:17amiconnIf there's a mismatch, it needs to be fixed by either changing that address for the rombox builds, or padding the loader (obviously that only works for one type of mismatch)
00:37:10amiconnhmm
00:37:39amiconnIn fact we could reverse 2 steps, and add an extra one. Then we don't need to reiterate across multiple steps
00:41:25amiconnupdated.
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00:44:20*amiconn wonders how this could be automated
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00:45:04amiconnBuilding booxbox is simple - it's just like building the bootloader all the other targets
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00:46:00amiconnThe flash loader is a little more complex, because (1) it builds in the source dir, and (2) it build in either 1 or 2 variants, depending on whether the archos in question does exist in a romless version or not
00:46:09Zagorhmm, I missed fixing the pcm watermark.
00:48:14amiconnAssembling the images then needs to be done either once or twice per target, using the 1 or 2 flash loaders built. The version needs to be bumped in the template file(s)
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00:54:14MarcGuayAnyone here claiming respinsibility for maintaining the VMware image?
00:54:23MarcGuayor responsibility... depending...
00:57:49Tangent1how is album cover art assigned to files?
00:58:03MarcGuayThis: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=18731 needs to be done again but should probably be vaguer so it doesn't have to be changed every release.
00:58:18MarcGuayTangent1: Check the AlbumArt wiki page.
00:58:23Tangent1thanks
00:58:33Tangent1i found the manual (ipod video 80gb) lacking
00:59:29MarcGuayTangent1: The manual and the wiki both need love. Check out http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualTodo
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01:03:24MarcGuayZagor: Bagder: "Reported version" in flyspray still defaults to 3.0.
01:03:37Zagorfixing
01:03:59MarcGuayA+
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01:19:24*MarcGuay considers removing the suggested method of removing DRM from the FAQ, as it's lame...
01:22:17MarcGuay... then does it and replaces most of the text with the stuff from the NoDo document.
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01:51:06*kugel got a 4th quickscreen item working
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01:55:37HillshumCan I get a rockbox cloak?
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01:56:00kugelLlorean: 4 items on a remote don't look too bad actually
01:56:06kugelat least with the default font
01:56:40scorche|shHillshum: i dont believe you qualify...there is no "user" cloak
01:56:49Hillshumokay
01:58:34HillshumHow about set one up?
01:58:48HillshumIf not to much trouble
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02:01:04scorche|shi would rather not...a user cloak would be a pain...if you want a cloak, #freenode will give out unaffiliated cloaks
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02:07:31lufisI'm experiencing some weird stuff I'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on. Sometimes my 4th gen ipod photo will boot Rockbox, sometimes it will boot the ipod firmware. Is this normal?
02:08:35HillshumWhen the hold switch is on, the Apple firmware is loaded
02:09:00lufisah −− that explains it
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02:09:43lufisI was under the impression rockbox overwrites the ipod firmware
02:10:04Hillshumit sits alongside it
02:11:16lufisand one more thing... I've had it plugged in trying to charge it pretty much all day today, but it never keeps a charge because as soon as I plug it in and it charges enough to operate, it turns itself on and drains the battery immediately, and keeps on in that cycle
02:13:48HillshumPlugged in to a comp or a dummy charger?
02:14:41lufisIt happens either way
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02:15:08lufisI use it in my car a lot and have a car charger for it and it does the same thing
02:15:14*Hillshum doesn't know much on this topic
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02:15:30lufishmm... is there a way to turn it off?
02:15:33HillshumBoot the OF first. That should help.
02:15:37lufisfor lack of a better term
02:15:42lufisOF?
02:15:54HillshumOriginal Firmware
02:15:59lufisah
02:16:00lufisok
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02:17:33lufisHillshum: thanks :)
02:17:52Hillshumlufis: Check the FAQs too
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02:47:29abramsgunnerHow long does it usually take to propagate to mirrors in the US?
02:50:35saratoga5-6 minutes
02:50:44saratogayou can see on the builds page how long it took on the most recent revision
02:52:05JdGordonor an hour or so for download.rockbox.org content
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02:55:03Stormx2They're talking about RockBox on the BBC World Service :>
02:55:56saratogagot a link?
02:56:15saratogaalso, i definately want RSS for the tracker, the current version is good but only informs me when tasks open or close
02:56:33Stormx2It's live at the moment
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02:56:40Stormx2ah, they're done
02:56:47Stormx2it'll be downloadable, though
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02:58:30Stormx2Ah, here you go: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/worldservice/digitalp/digitalp_20081223-1030a.mp3
02:58:46Stormx2It's toward the end.
02:59:22abramsgunnerI see.. I've been watching download.rockbox.org links and they are not ready yet.. is there a better way I can get it?
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03:00:34Lloreanabramsgunner: If you download the "Current Build" using RButil it should be for the most part the same.
03:01:25LloreanIn a fully practical sense, release versions are more useful as a fallback when development builds are extra unstable.
03:01:41LloreanEspecially immediately after a release, the Current Build is the same, and shortly afterward it's usually better.
03:01:55saratogayeah i wouldn't use the release builds unless something is wrong with the current build
03:02:05abramsgunnerroger that
03:04:09krazykitrockbox is mentioned at 21:45 in the bbc cast above
03:04:37lufisshould rockbox's "version" field on the device start with r if i'm running a stable release?
03:05:25Lloreanlufis: Does it say 3.1 distinctly in the number?
03:05:43lufisLlorean: No
03:07:01lufisr19569-081223
03:07:28saratogathats post 3.1
03:08:01LloreanThe version number should be r######-3.1-date like 3.0 was r18607-3.0-080923
03:08:07lufisah
03:08:15LloreanBut, I'm not absolutely sure the version string is right with the 3.1 release
03:08:17lufisI guess it installed the latest SVN?
03:08:22lufisoh
03:08:23LloreanIt's possible the release-string isn't in it for some reason
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03:09:07saratogaoh its not post 3.1
03:09:12saratogamisread the r number
03:09:33LloreanActually, 19569 is 3.1
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03:09:38gartral1ok, its been an hour... i still cant det m1.0.8
03:09:39LloreanSo it looks like the special version string didn't happen.
03:09:44gartral1get*
03:09:50Lloreangartral1: Then go to bed, and get it in the morning, or have patience.
03:10:37Lloreansaratoga: It looks like the version string is definitely wrong in the rockbox-info.txt for at least one of the builds.
03:10:41gartral1all i want to know is if its a localised area, or just me, cause ive trryed everything...
03:10:56Lloreangartral1: You're not the only one. Have patience.
03:12:03gartral1ok, ill try again when i get off work at 2
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03:24:50saratogasoap: is the Ipod Accessory Patch up to date? if so it should be commited IMO
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03:56:12webguest04hello
03:57:38webguest04is anybody online, today?
03:57:49Lloreanwebguest04: Did you have a specific question?
03:59:24webguest04yes. I created a preset file for my city, (radio stations), and I was wondering if somebody could upload it to the wiki for me
03:59:32webguest04http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/2161740_fd5wn/presets.zip
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04:00:58webguest04Spokane, Washington is the city
04:03:03webguest04llorean?
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04:04:40advcomp2019webguest04, why not you post it on the wiki
04:05:55webguest04how does one do that?
04:08:10advcomp2019sign up for the wiki then someone will give you access
04:09:22webguest04do you have a link to the sign-up URL?
04:09:58jhMikeSalbum art really needs to be fixed not to fill with white for non-square album covers
04:12:17advcomp2019webguest04, if you click on wiki on the side it will tell you
04:12:19jhMikeSnvm, it's some assinine thing I did. :p
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04:33:26*kugel finds that nice
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04:42:31Ligh7Chey guys
04:42:46Ligh7Canyone know if cue sheets are supported in release 3.1?
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04:43:31saratogathey've been supported for a coulpe years now
04:45:36kugelsaratoga: the c200v2 patch can be committed I think
04:45:56kugelboth even
04:47:07Ligh7Csaratoga, it doesn't seem like they are supported: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CuesheetSupport
04:47:25Ligh7Ci have an ape image on my rockbox with a cue sheet in the same folder
04:47:37Ligh7Cdoesn't seem to be able to read the cue
04:47:42Ligh7Cdo i need a plugin of some sorts?
04:48:29advcomp2019Ligh7C, if you look at the FS# it says it was added
04:48:35kugelLigh7C: that page is heavily outdated
04:48:50Ligh7Chmm
04:49:01Ligh7Cany idea why i can't see the cue?
04:49:02kugelLigh7C: you need to enable cue sheet before you can use it (I believe it's in the playback settings)
04:49:06Ligh7Cahh
04:49:09Ligh7Clet me check
04:51:50Ligh7Cawesome
04:51:52Ligh7Cgot it
04:51:52Ligh7Cthanks
04:51:58kugelyou're welcome
04:52:19Ligh7Cis there a way to get it to list the individual tracks in the playlist?
04:52:29Ligh7Cor do you always have to play the image to see the tracks
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04:54:53saratogakugel: ok i'll commit it
04:55:14saratogaalso, does anyone object to me commiting that e200 keypad fix thing for the v1
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05:04:41saratogakugel: regarding that patch, the bootloader is working but not rockbox itself?
05:04:55saratogatheres no LCD driver right?
05:07:39kugelhe didn't test yet
05:07:46kugelprobably not
05:07:58saratogaok i'll note that
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05:08:25kugelthere's a big FIXME me in that file, so I don't claim that it works :)
05:08:31saratogathe bootloader blinks the lights or something then?
05:08:39kugelsaratoga: which e200 keypad fix??
05:08:54kugelsaratoga: the bootloader doesn't do anything
05:09:17saratogaisn't there a patch that prevents the power from going up a level?
05:09:18kugelthe patch is supposed to get dualboot working (which it does) and get the c200v2 in the target tree
05:09:35kugelyea, but that needs more work
05:10:14kugelfrom what I've noticed the time screen is a little bit odd with that patch
05:11:46kugelthe problem is that the power button is still ACTION_STD_CANCEL and such, changing all this to BUTTON_LEFT like it's supposed to be needs a bit more work
05:12:02kugele.g. all the lang strings that contain buttons
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05:18:53kugelsaratoga: don't forget the mkamsboot patch :)
05:20:07JdGordonkugel: you know there is already a patch to add a 4th qs option?
05:20:21kugelJdGordon: no :S
05:20:26saratogawoah lots of warnings on the sims
05:21:26kugelsaratoga: doesn't seem to be related to my patch
05:21:41kugelI know those warnings from ubuntu 8.10 though
05:21:49kugelJdGordon: fs#?
05:22:15JdGordon9675
05:22:37JdGordonkugel: have you got a bunch of ams patches that need commiting still?
05:23:34kugelJdGordon: well, I wouldn't call it "need", I don't feel so strong about about them
05:23:53kugelthey don't really get stuff working as it should, but they're better than what's in svn
05:24:27JdGordonah, hmm..
05:24:32kugelJdGordon: re the 4th qs item: my patch goes a bit farther and tries to address the issues with ACTION_QS_DOWNINV and to handle remotes
05:25:50JdGordonI only gave that other 1 a very quick look.. and havnt looked at yours at all yet.. jsut letting oyu know it was done already
05:26:04kugelyea, I totally missed that one :(
05:26:10JdGordongoing from the logs though, the h100 remote could make things difficult
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05:27:08kugelactually, the h100 remote is less problematic, since it already maps 2 buttons to each qs item, so there's no change for that
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05:30:23kugelJdGordon: my patch also fixes some quirks with in the fix_viewports function which haven't been visible until I added a 4th item
05:31:08saratogaJdGordon: I can't duplicate the warning your machine threw on the mini2G sim this last build
05:31:11JdGordonthat shuold be added as a seperate patch... but not a big deal
05:31:11saratogaany ideas?
05:31:18*JdGordon has a look
05:32:44saratogaa couple threw it, so its probably specific to your OS or compiler version i guess
05:33:12JdGordonim running 8.10
05:33:15kugelas I said, ubuntu 8.10 throws such warnings if you build in tools/
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05:35:29JdGordonthose look like warnings which should be fixed anyway...
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05:38:32JdGordonI got rid of all but one of them with a change to the cflags in tools.make
05:39:03kugelgrr
05:39:53JdGordonand the convbdf.c warning looks like it could be fixeable in the source
05:44:03kugelJdGordon: if you need to trigger a build to watch if the warnings are gone, here: http://pastebin.ca/1292813 :)
05:44:45JdGordonthats ok.... I can build manually anfd get the same warnings :)
05:44:49JdGordonwhats that?
05:45:33kugelit fixes the typo in the c200v2 button driver which I just noticed
05:46:41kugelnot a big deal probably until someone gets hacking on it seriously
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05:48:37JdGordonok, now im confused... the commit i just did didnt show a warning on the table but it does on my computer!
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05:51:52saratogakugel: thats worth fixing
05:51:55saratogai'll do it now
05:52:08kugelthanks
05:57:50kugelsaratoga: does your fuze work now or not?
05:59:50saratogakugel: i haven't tried formatting it, but i think i will right now
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06:01:03kugeluse mkfs.vfat, I believe other tools can brick the OF (depending on if they actually change the partitions or only create a filesystem, the former one is dangerous)
06:01:36saratogaunfortunately i don't have direct access to a linux machine here, is it ok to just delete all files off the thing and then readd the .rockbox?
06:02:05kugelthat should work too iiuc
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06:10:11saratogakugel: that fixed it, thanks
06:10:35kugelso you can boot rockbox? nice
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07:16:31Dhraakellianno digg or fsdaily posts for 3.1 yet?
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08:06:39amiconnJdGordon: Couldn't this warning have been fixed by replacing fprintf with fputs?
08:07:08*amiconn also wonders about the other, remaining warning
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08:13:38JdGordonamiconn: ah yeah, probably...
08:14:01JdGordonthe other ones cant be fixed by adding -D_PEDANTIC=0 into the cflags in make.tools
08:14:05JdGordontools.make even
08:17:27amiconnHmm, but why do they suddenly show up, and why only for a few sims?
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08:18:03JdGordonim guessing the tools arnt cleaned every build, so unless one of them changes they dont show up?
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08:19:55JdGordon... that -D above isnt exactly correct
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08:31:53saratogavery interesting email about udma on the mailing list
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08:58:18amiconnsaratoga: Interesting indeed.
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09:05:06amiconnHe may be right about the read speed being mainly cache read. On large-mem targets we could have one more buffer size in test_disk
09:06:27saratogaamiconn: was it you who said we took almost twice as long to fully buffer as the OF?
09:07:39JdGordonare CF cards going to cause more pain with this?
09:18:05saratogai think UDMA is pretty commonly used on CF cards, so hopefully not
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10:32:12plutonianWhat configuration do I need to set in order to make it so that rockbox never puts my ipod in disk mode?
10:32:45plutonianI've got ipodlinux installed along with rockbox and I use loader2 to boot rockbox, disk mode, podzilla, iboy, or apple os
10:33:52plutonianand I want to make it so that when I plug my ipod in and it turns on, I can select rockbox and go directly to rockbox
10:34:28plutonianright now if I select rockbox while it's plugged in, rockbox boots, sees that I'm plugged in, and goes to disk mode
10:34:32plutonianeven if I hold down menu
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11:25:21J-23is RockDoom compatible with Doom 95?
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12:30:08daurnimatorisn't doom 95 just windows doom "client" - its doesn't change wads or anything...
12:30:25daurnimatoronly compatability thing would be networking... and you don't play network games with rockbox
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13:01:21gevaertsYou mean the name? That's "standard" for an utf8-encoded m3u file
13:02:04ajbahh, I shall comment the code appropriatly
13:02:37Jaykaya question concerning the MajorChanges page: it says "fm radio support for gigabeat s".... but this gigabeat isnt supported.....
13:02:59Jaykayshouldnt it only say "gigabeat s is supported" when everythings working?
13:04:33Jaykayah it also says "sound on the gigabeat s"
13:05:20ender`i unserstand "FM radio support on Gigabeat S" as "if you're running rockbox on Gigabeat S, the radio now works"
13:05:24ender`understand*
13:06:12Jaykayaccording to the main page the S isnt supported
13:06:46Jaykayso as i said it should finally say "gigabeat s is supported" when everything is working fine
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13:31:18FebsWindows XP
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16:44:15ajbLambdaCalculus37: few hours to go yet ;-)
16:44:38rasherDepends where you live.
16:44:49LambdaCalculus37In Sweden, the 24th is celebrated.
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16:45:33LambdaCalculus37Anyway, at the risk of running off-topic, many of the developers are probably with friends or family right now, so expect the channel to be pretty quiet today.
16:46:02*ajb hopes to get an updated #9677 uploaded before the rest of the family arrive
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17:23:31kugelfdinel: hey :) Don't tell me you have time just today :)
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18:34:32fdinelkugel: nope, not at all :D
18:40:58kugelfdinel: hehe, then why are you here? :)
18:41:10kugelah, I know, it's a nice place
18:43:13fdinelkugel: blame it on auto-connect :P
18:43:28kugel:P
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18:43:46fdinelbut yeah right, its all warm and confortable :P
18:43:52fdinelhaha
18:44:02fdinelhave a nice xmas/whatever :P
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19:56:54RyanHammondwrite privileges, please?
19:57:13GodEaterto the wiki presumably ?
19:57:30RyanHammondyes. I was going to add a radio station preset file
19:58:11GodEaterYour nickname here is the same as your wiki name ?
19:58:19RyanHammondyes.
19:58:56GodEaterdone
19:58:58GodEaterenjoy :)
19:59:18RyanHammondIs there anything special I had to do to start uploading?
19:59:25RyanHammondhave to
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20:01:37GodEaterShouldn't be. Once you click the "Edit" link on a page it should just let you get on with it.
20:01:48GodEateror ask you for your wikiname/password if you're not logged in yet.
20:11:56RyanHammondum, I'm not sure where the file uploaded. It needs to be under, "Washington State"
20:15:24GodEaterI can see the link at the bottom of the page
20:15:52GodEateryou'll need to read Twiki's help to work out how to get the link to them in the right place. Or copy one of the other ones on the page to see how they've done it.
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20:18:58RyanHammondhow might I copy one?
20:23:41GodEaterjust take a look at the syntax in the wiki page for how they've been done
20:23:51GodEaterI think you need to set your attachment to "hidden" too
20:24:06GodEaterI don't edit the wiki often enough to remember this off the top of my head I'm afraid
20:24:14GodEaterI end up re-learning it every time
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20:26:37mirrorboxhello, anybody used iPod with rockbox firmware via car's iPod-link device?
20:28:12lucentmirrorbox: I think it is referred to as "iPod accessory support"
20:28:32lucentmirrorbox: the only way to know is try it yourself
20:29:17mirrorboxlucent: I tryed it myself, the 'next track' and 'prev track' keys doesn't work on the car's head unit
20:31:23mirrorboxand btw is it ok that it displays 'Loading...' for the mpeg file for a several minutes already? :)
20:31:32scorche|shmirrorbox: you can try including a patch in the tracker that is meant to give the protocol support for that
20:32:18mirrorboxscorche|sh: let me try to find the patch
20:35:50mirrorboxscorche|sh: do you remember keywords for this patch?
20:36:25scorche|shmirrorbox: apple accessory protocol?
20:36:31mirrorboxyup
20:36:48scorche|shmirrorbox: i mean, did you try searching for that?
20:37:13mirrorboxsearching for "accessory" gives nothing
20:38:20scorche|shhttp://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8624
20:39:02mirrorboxthanks
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20:40:49mirrorboxI wonder if it's going to be hard to compile it on freebsd :>
20:41:13scorche|shshouldnt be...just run the rockboxdev.sh tool
20:42:47lucentmirrorbox: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9647 patch against rockboxdev.sh you might want
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20:44:19mirrorboxlucent: will take a look at this too, thanks
20:46:59mirrorboxI wonder in what commands my head unit translate stuff like "switch to the next playlist"
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20:52:30mirrorboxok, thanks guys for help, I'll try to compile rockbox with this patch and test it in car
20:53:45mirrorboxand it seems it hanged on the video file :)
20:58:46LloreanDid you convert it using one of our suggested methods?
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21:03:48wa4chqhi...i have a sansa e200 and have rockbox installed....i was setting up background pic and adjust brightness and delay or sleep and the fade out went from being normal, like fadeout after 3 seconds but somehow I must of set it to fadeout in 0 seconds cuz now i cant see the screen...what should i do
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21:10:13krazykitthe manual has instructions on how to clear your settings
21:11:36wa4chqok, the rockbox manual for the sansa e200?
21:11:42krazykityes
21:12:54wa4chqok...thnx
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21:30:15wa4chqkrazykit: could not find it in the manual
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21:33:16bertrikwa4chq, IIRC, settings are reset when holding the REC button on startup
21:34:30wa4chqbertrik: ok...will give it a go...tnx
21:36:05wa4chqbertrik: that did the trick...thnx so much...merry christmas
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21:48:46kugellucent: hey, your "christmas present" is delaying a bit it seems :)
21:48:58kugelmerry christmas anyway!
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22:05:23rstyhello, i cant get ipodpatcher to find my ipod... what do i do?
22:05:26rstyi use archlinux.
22:05:43Lloreanrsty: What iPod do you have?
22:05:46rstyits mounted, and it cannot find it.
22:05:47rstyumm.
22:05:53rstyclassic 80gig
22:05:57LloreanIt's not supported.
22:06:01LloreanIt says this clearly on the front page of the site.
22:06:13rstyit says it supports 30/60/80g
22:06:17rstyin the manual
22:06:34rstyor im not sure if its classic
22:06:35LloreanYes. Of the iPod 5G / 5.5G models
22:06:37rstyits 80gig video
22:06:39LloreanThe Classic is the 6G
22:06:47LloreanBoth play video.
22:07:04rstyhow do i find out what gen i have?
22:07:07rstyi just got it last year
22:07:21LloreanIf you got it new last year it's a Classic / 6G
22:07:39rstyoh
22:07:43rstyalright, thanks.
22:17:49wa4chqrsty: I use slackware, how do you like arch?
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22:18:22Lloreanwa4chq: That's really off-topic for this channel
22:18:36wa4chqL1orean: sorry
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22:23:29rstywa4chq, i love arch.
22:23:49rstyswitched over from gentoo... the compiling speeds almost doubled. if you ever used gentoo.
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