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#rockbox log for 2009-01-31

00:00:55casainhoI am trying to build the firmware, and I get the error: main.c:(.text+0x414): undefined reference to `i2c_init'. My hardware do no use I2C, is there a way to not build it?
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00:02:05casainhoor I need to make a stub for i2c_init() ?
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00:13:28Wiredbomb0Does anyone know if http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=30444 will work on an iPod Classic 120gb?
00:14:10Wiredbomb0Whoops
00:14:12Wiredbomb0Never mind
00:14:17Wiredbomb0Read the title wrong >_<
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00:22:44webguest30sevelnick aregularon this site, looking to leave him a message.
00:22:58webguest30is evelnick
00:23:59webguest30is evelnick a regular
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00:25:31Wiredbomb0Is it possible to mod iPod games if you have the game file itself?
00:25:47krazykitWiredbomb0, what does that have to do with rockbox?
00:26:05krazykitunless you're asking "can you exploit a bug in the games to run your own code"
00:26:39Wiredbomb0I'm just wondering
00:27:06krazykitto which the short answer is "yes" but the long answer is "it's probably encrypted too, so you still need to figure out the encryption"
00:27:08Wiredbomb0And could you exploit a bug in the games to run your own code?
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00:40:51Unhelpful"maybe"
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01:22:16PSPdemonsomeone should update the wiki on how to fix wads for rockdoom ;P
01:23:03saratogaif its actually useful, go for it
01:24:26PSPdemonwell.... it works so far for every wad ive done for it :P
01:25:01PSPdemonthe wiki is somewhat correct on the process to fix it...just not detailed into what other things to fix :P
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03:40:46XxXSparkXxXhey does anyone know where i can find mknkboot.exe?
03:56:28Unhelpfulthe source is in the rockbox source - tools/mknkboot.c
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03:58:15PSPdemonhey unhelpful
03:58:19PSPdemonyou are being mighty helpful
03:58:23PSPdemon;)
03:58:46Chestetahello, I am having some trouble compiling the latest build for my sansa e200v2 (Normal build)
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03:59:53PSPdemonyou know...im curious about the "recovery method" mentioned in the wiki
03:59:56PSPdemondoes that acually work?
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04:00:09PSPdemonor is it flawed in some way
04:00:31Unhelpfulwhich recovery method? for which target?
04:00:35PSPdemon( for e200v2's )
04:00:42PSPdemonsorry...meant to add that in
04:01:04Unhelpfulah, that i don't know
04:01:26ChestetaI redownloaded everything; deleted everything in the /rockbox folder except for .svn and then did a "svn update" to make sure everything was fine however after making a build directory and then running ../tools/configure and then running a make I am getting lots of errors...
04:01:28PSPdemonit talks about adding a bridge between 2 pads... which should allow you to reformat/flash the device
04:01:34UnhelpfulChesteta: it's not really a usable target, right now - that's why we don't have nice binaries ready.
04:01:52PSPdemonbut i have yet to hear anyone acually try this
04:02:12Chestetaunhelpful: I understood, it has been atleast compiling in the past though
04:02:18Chestetaunderstand*
04:02:41UnhelpfulChesteta: pastebin your errors, maybe? "lots of errors" doesn't mean much
04:02:56Chestetai'm on it, give me a min
04:05:02ChestetaIn file included from /home/Matt/rockbox/apps/codecs.h:50,
04:05:03Chesteta from /home/Matt/rockbox/apps/plugin.h:67,
04:05:03Chesteta from /home/Matt/rockbox/apps/plugins/properties.c:21:
04:05:03DBUGEnqueued KICK Chesteta
04:05:03Chestetashould be in autoconf.h)
04:05:35Chesteta(there are alot of those for different files its trying to make)
04:05:55Chestetashould be in autoconf.h)
04:05:55Chestetacc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory
04:05:55Chestetacc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory
04:05:55***Alert Mode level 1
04:05:55Chestetacc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory
04:05:55***Alert Mode level 2
04:05:55***Alert Mode level 3
04:05:55Chestetacc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory
04:05:56***Alert Mode level 4
04:05:56Chestetamake: *** No rule to make target `/home/Matt/rockbox/firmware/firmware.make'. S
04:05:58Chestetatop.
04:06:00Chestetait ends with that
04:06:32ChestetaI will try and get some errors from the begining because I believe those are a bit different
04:07:14Chestetashould be in autoconf.h)
04:07:14Chestetacc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory
04:07:14Chestetacc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory
04:07:14***Alert Mode level 5
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04:07:14Chestetacc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory
04:07:14***Alert Mode level 7
04:07:14***Alert Mode level 8
04:07:14Chestetacc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory
04:07:15***Alert Mode level 9
04:07:15Chestetamake: *** No rule to make target `/home/Matt/rockbox/firmware/firmware.make'. S
04:07:17Chestetatop.
04:08:11PSPdemonshould have pastebin'd that
04:08:16PSPdemonlol
04:08:20Chestetahow do i do that? lol
04:08:34ChestetaI have not used mirc much lately, used it alot when i was younger
04:08:40PSPdemonalso unhelpful, apparently the unbricking recovery method has been revised since i last looked
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04:08:58PSPdemonhttp://rafb.net/paste/
04:09:06PSPdemon:P
04:09:21PSPdemonpaste it there...makes reading it alot easier ;)
04:10:36Chestetahttp://rafb.net/p/q7ilqd99.html
04:10:45Chestetacool, thanks for teaching me that
04:11:34Chestetanote, that is after running the make again, it didn't spit out as much as the first time running the make... idk why it didn't
04:12:32PSPdemonyou already ran the config file right? to compile?
04:12:49Chestetayou mean ../tools/configure
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04:12:59PSPdemonyea
04:13:00Chestetathen I entered 56 (e200v2)
04:13:02Chestetayea
04:13:04PSPdemonahh
04:13:46mikero123hi folks, I have a question about doom on my c200, every time I try to run I get a data abort any hints
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04:15:31ChestetaI selected N for normal build too.... :/
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04:17:37saratogaChesteta: your source checkout is probably screwed up
04:17:51saratogacheck it out from svn into a different folder, and try again
04:17:59saratogathe current svn code compiles without error
04:18:04UnhelpfulChesteta: you say you deleted *everything* except .svn?
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04:18:37Chestetaunhelpful: yes
04:18:53Unhelpfulbecause there's a .svn for each subdirectory - i'd suggest you just delete the rockbox directory itself, and check out again.
04:19:02Chestetasaratoga: Thanks, I will try it
04:19:20Unhelpfulif you want to clean your source directory of changes, i'd suggest you use svn revert -R .
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04:20:06Chestetaok, Ill let ya know if it works
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04:22:45XxXSparkXxXexcuse me Unhelpful, how do i compile it? i dont have c++ or anything... i know this is probabally classed as 'warez' but could u possibly send the exe to me?
04:23:22Unhelpfulit's not "warez" or anything, but i don't *have* a windows mknkboot, nor the tools to build it.
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04:25:10Unhelpfulalso, i should point out that without mknkboot, you still have a working rockbox, that can do pretty much everything the OF can do, except play wmv movies
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04:28:52XxXSparkXxXim trying to get my gigabeat s30 to work thats all
04:29:11XxXSparkXxXand the nk.bin file that i downloaded from this site is only 77kb
04:29:23XxXSparkXxXand i read it needs to be about 12.5mb
04:29:48saratogai think 77kb is correct
04:29:55Unhelpfulit's a bootloader. the ~13MB one is the dual-boot version you get after patching the rockbox nk.bin into an OF one.
04:29:56XxXSparkXxXok
04:30:20saratogahell all of rockbox isn't 12MB
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04:30:52XxXSparkXxXso i transfer nk.bin to my gigabeat's firmware bit?
04:31:22XxXSparkXxX'sendfirm.exe' i mean
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04:37:57UnhelpfulXxXSparkXxX: you *use* sendfirm.exe to transfer nk.bin to your gigabeat
04:37:59Chestetahey it appears to be working, thanks for your help guys (or gals)
04:38:28Unhelpfuland then leave USB plugged in, it should show up as a drive, and then you can unpack rockbox onto it.
04:39:38XxXSparkXxXah ok i understand now
04:39:39XxXSparkXxXthankyou
04:41:07mikero123hi folks, I have a question about doom on my c200, every time I try to run I get a data abort any hints, also with I just installed version 3.1 and now the database never actually completes updating , I only have a few files on the device.
04:41:11linuxstbPSPdemon: Yes, the e200v2 recovery method works - e200v2 owners tested early versions of the "Sansa AMS" bootloader, which "bricked" their devices, meaning they needed to use that recovery mode.
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04:42:34Unhelpfulmikero123: have you tried a current build instead of v3.1?
04:43:15mikero123no, I can give it a whirl.
04:43:38mikero123I didn't see any of these listed in the known issues list.
04:43:45XxXSparkXxXok, i installed nk.bin to my gigabeat using 'sendfirm.exe' everything is still plugged in. now i go to my computer and go to 'gigabeat s' under the 'other' section? im unsure because it hasnt changed
04:44:26Unhelpfulhm.. you might actually need to unplug the gigabeat for it to load the update, it's been a while since i did this.
04:44:34linuxstbmikero123: Which WAD are you trying with Doom?
04:44:36XxXSparkXxXok
04:46:32XxXSparkXxXi unplugged the USB and it restarted, after it retsrted it now says 'update or restore PMD' and a '2' in a yellow triangle
04:47:06XxXSparkXxXdo i use sendfirm again?
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04:47:57mikero123linuxstb: freedoom
04:48:56mikero123Unhelpful: just tried the latest fw, and same on doom Data abort at 01fbc6c4 Still waiting on the database issue, will let you know in a few minutes.
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04:50:16UnhelpfulXxXSparkXxX: that doesn't sound good at all. you can try sendfirm again, but it shouldn't be doing this. did you see anything else before that message?
04:50:59XxXSparkXxXno
04:51:48XxXSparkXxXit says update or restore still. do you have a dual boot nk.bin file?
04:52:40XxXSparkXxXim restoring the origional firmware again, and i will start over
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04:52:45Unhelpfulno, i've been using rockbox exclusively, the dual-boot is much slower starting up
04:52:56XxXSparkXxXok,
04:53:23XxXSparkXxXhave u still got the nk.bin file u used on your computer?
04:53:43Unhelpfulthe single-boot one?
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04:53:48XxXSparkXxXyes
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04:56:33mikero123Uhelpful it has been 10 minutes, and no luch with the database either.
04:57:24Unhelpfulmikero123: very strange... i don't have a c200, and i don't use doom, but i've never had that problem on my s60 or my e200 :/
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04:59:19XxXSparkXxXunhelpful, could u send me the NK.bin file u used? through rapidshare or something?
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05:00:48Unhelpfulyou can extract an OF nk.bin from this file: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatSInfo#Official_Gigabeat_S_Updater_vers
05:00:55Unhelpfulas for a rockbox one, you already have that
05:01:37XxXSparkXxXi got that file, thats the one i have been using to recover the s30.
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05:40:02XxXSparkXxXi need a working rockbox n.bin file... unhelpful do you have a working one? the one from the sit dont seem to work
05:40:17XxXSparkXxXnk.bin*
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05:44:56Unhelpfulthe one from this page? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatSInstallation
05:45:16XxXSparkXxXyes that one isnt working for me
05:48:16Unhelpfulit works for me.
05:49:17XxXSparkXxXok.. i dont know what im doing wrong then
05:50:11Unhelpfulpossibly, nothing at all. there are some people who can't get rockbox to work on theirs. i'd suggest you try building a current bootloader, that one is quite old.
05:50:42XxXSparkXxXwhere can i find one?
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05:54:02Unhelpfulhere's where to start: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DocsIndex#For_Developers
05:54:33Unhelpfulor, more specifically, here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler and here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile
05:57:59XxXSparkXxXthx
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06:00:46XxXSparkXxXok i cant do it... i dont hav linux
06:00:55XxXSparkXxXi got xp and windows 7
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06:03:21Unhelpfulhttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling
06:06:01xsloader#So you need Rockbox-Gigabeat-S
06:06:16xsloaders/need/want/
06:06:34XxXSparkXxXyer im trying to get my gigabeat s30 to work with rockbox
06:07:33xsloaderActually I'm wondering why there is no gigabeat-s build...
06:07:55krazykitbecause it's not officially supported
06:07:59XxXSparkXxXyet
06:10:54Unhelpfulnot that "yet" makes a difference. "it doesn't work on some devices" is just one of the problems that need to be solved.
06:11:10UnhelpfulXxXSparkXxX: you didn't actually run the toshiba updater, did you?
06:11:22XxXSparkXxXno i dont hav one...
06:11:26XxXSparkXxXhave*
06:11:44XxXSparkXxXis that why it didnt work?
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06:11:58Unhelpfulyes, you do, you said that you downloaded it.
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06:12:30XxXSparkXxXsorry i read it wrong.. yes i did run the updater
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06:13:31Unhelpfulhrm :/
06:13:33XxXSparkXxXits version 1.2 "632.4"
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06:14:00*Unhelpful wonders if he could "break" his by installing *all* of v1.2
06:14:36XxXSparkXxXwhat version was your gigabeat b4 u modded it?
06:15:11XxXSparkXxX1.1 or 1.2
06:15:23Unhelpful1.1
06:15:32XxXSparkXxXok*
06:15:32XxXSparkXxXko
06:15:51Unhelpfuland please, use real, whole words?
06:16:45xsloader#Oh rockbox.zip is here: http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-gigabeats/rockbox.zip So you only need bootloader.
06:17:29XxXSparkXxXi need to find a working bootloader yes.
06:17:48XxXSparkXxXif i downgraded to version 1.1 it might work?
06:17:55XxXSparkXxXsorry about my spelling before.
06:18:50xsloaderCan't you use http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/GigabeatSInstallation?rev=1;filename=gigabeat-s-b.zip ?
06:18:58Unhelpfulit might... i'm not sure anybody has tried.
06:19:20Unhelpfulxsloader: for whatever reason, that doesn't work for him, and it immediately goes back to recovery :/
06:19:55XxXSparkXxXalright... i just downgraded the device, im about to try the rockbox bootloader now.
06:20:00UnhelpfulXxXSparkXxX: did you send the bootloader.bin or the nk.bin from that file, with sendfirm?
06:20:26XxXSparkXxXits now version 1.1"632.4"
06:20:43Unhelpfulhrm, how did you do that?
06:20:57XxXSparkXxXi sent the nk.bin file. i dont know what the bootloader file did so i didnt touch it.
06:21:17XxXSparkXxXand i used a different nk.bin file from another zip from your site.
06:21:22XxXSparkXxXi'll find which page
06:22:07xsloaderI found another nk.bin
06:22:08xsloaderhttp://audio-p.hp.infoseek.co.jp/
06:22:12Unhelpfulright, the problem may be that the updater updates the *other* .bin files on the firmware partition.
06:22:16xsloaderhttp://audio-p.hp.infoseek.co.jp/nk.7z
06:23:29XxXSparkXxXok. what happens if i upload the bootloader.bin from the gigabeat-s-b.zip?
06:24:00UnhelpfulXxXSparkXxX: you don't, you upload the nk.bin
06:24:13XxXSparkXxXok
06:24:14XxXSparkXxXi was just making sure.
06:24:59XxXSparkXxXxsloader: is that nk.bin file made for the gigabeat s series?
06:27:13xsloaderYes. The website says Rockbox for Gigabeat S
06:27:26XxXSparkXxXok. im going to test it now
06:28:30XxXSparkXxXYES!
06:28:33XxXSparkXxXit works.
06:28:41XxXSparkXxXim in bootloader USB mode now.
06:28:43XxXSparkXxXthankyou
06:28:58xsloaderOh, good
06:29:19UnhelpfulHM. i wonder what the magic was.
06:29:30XxXSparkXxXthat file was 12.3mb
06:29:32XxXSparkXxXnot 77kb
06:29:40XxXSparkXxXi think it is a merged version
06:29:45UnhelpfulXxXSparkXxX: that's a dual-boot nk.bin, then.
06:29:51XxXSparkXxXah ok
06:29:56XxXSparkXxXthat'll do.
06:31:18XxXSparkXxXthankyou to both of you. it is running now.
06:31:22Unhelpfuli wonder if the problem is to do with the updater updating recovery.bin, or anything that might be in flash, or such, in some way that breaks only unmerged nk.bin...
06:31:53Unhelpfulinterestingly, i just did a restore (using sendfirm), and my firmware partition *only* has nk.bin on it.
06:33:56XxXSparkXxXmy firmware partition has the following files: nk.bin, eboot.bin, recovery.bin, TsbPmcStore.edb,pmcver.dat,pmcstore.edb
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06:41:57Unhelpfulthat's the smaller partition?
06:49:13XxXSparkXxXyes thats the small partition
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09:46:04casainhohello :-)
09:46:12casainhoI am getting this error: /usr/local/arm-elf/lib/gcc/arm-elf/4.0.3/../../../../arm-elf/bin/ld: region PLUGIN_RAM is full (/home/cas/Documentos/rockbox_player/rockbox/build/apps/codecs/vorbis.elf section .header)
09:46:32casainhowhat should I do? why it happens?
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10:12:41kadobancasainho: you probably have huge arrays sitting around, you need to cut down on them or cut down the size. you should be able to tell what's big in the map file (maybe)?
10:13:11casainhokadoban: sorry, I didn't explain... I am making a new port
10:13:21kadobancasainho: oh, i forgot...you're the rockbox player guy. i probably don't know for that
10:13:34casainhoI need to work the pluguins.lds
10:14:16casainhowell, I just build correctly the firmware now - I will debug it to see if it runs
10:14:55casainhoI would like to know how can I creat a zip file for the firmware, so I can copy it to the SD Card and try the bootloader...
10:15:41kadoban"make zip"?
10:17:49casainhoI will try that
10:18:42casainhowell, I am seeing that I can run the .elf file and debug it as I was doing with the bootloader... and the first error I am getting on LCD is "ATA error: 1" :-)
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10:44:32beachsurfinis there an option to list the wps gallery submissions by popularity (most downloaded)?
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10:50:29pixelmaUnhelpful: speaking of scrolling in pf... I find it odd that the plugin uses its own scrolling - and I also think that it doesn't look good, especially in cases where it only has to scroll a few pixels
10:51:11pixelmaI know, not your fault ;)
10:53:00Unhelpfulthanks for the reminder... that was on my to-do list, which is not actually recorded anywhere. :/
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10:55:32pixelmayou're welcome :\
10:55:47Unhelpfulamiconn: first, we need a text scroller for the greylib. secondly, how exactly does the text scrolling "work"? when animating, pf renders directly to the framebuffer, then calls for the text draw afterward. can we still follow that pattern with core scrolled text?
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10:57:27amiconnNot directly. My idea would only work if PF doesn't scroll text while actually animating
10:58:08amiconnOnce animation stops, PF could copy the framebuffer contents to a backdrop buffer, and set that bitmap as backdrop. Then scrolling text works as expected
10:58:30amiconnIt would then need to stop the scrolling text before restarting the animation
10:59:01amiconnText scroller for the greylib should be possible. It might even be possible to plug it into the core's scroll engine
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10:59:48*amiconn should really start his planned gfx rework & cleanup
10:59:52amiconnMeh, decisions...
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11:01:53Unhelpfulhrm... so the text scroller updates via some timer event, or something like that?
11:02:23amiconnThere's a tick task sending events to the scroll thread, which then redraws the scrolling text lines
11:03:36amiconnRedraw must be done from a thread, drawing from an ISR is usually forbidden (the greylib being an exception )
11:04:46Unhelpfulhrm... yeah, that *will* be tricky :/
11:06:16amiconnwhat will be tricky?
11:08:46Unhelpfulmaking PF play nice with the core scroller. i don't suposse we care about scrolling names while animating, anyway, though.
11:09:22Unhelpfulso, like you said, we can just copy the buffer to another one that we set as the background when animation stops...
11:09:31amiconnIs that done now? Iirc it's not
11:10:06amiconnHmm, does PF rotate the display on portrait targets?
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11:11:15bertrikamiconn, it doesn't on my e200
11:11:43amiconnOkay, that makes things easier
11:13:28Unhelpfulit also does custom drawing of track list... not just its own scroll implementation, but the highlight bar behind the selected track pulses
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11:22:48pixelmait also has this gradient in the track list
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11:23:30Unhelpfulalso, the track list *itself* scrolls up and down, if it's larger than the screen :/
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11:31:39Unhelpfulactually, if pictureflow renders the gradient, and the pulsing bar, into a buffer that's set as the background, would that "work"? i'm guessing the scroll engine will only copy pixels from background buffer in the area that it's drawing into?
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11:33:28amiconnYes. It would only work if the text actually scrolss though
11:33:52Unhelpfuland parts of the bar that aren't "under" the text wouldn't update, either?
11:34:01amiconnBut if the background uses a single colur (even if it's pulsating) it's easier than that
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11:36:47Unhelpfulno, the selection bar in the track list is blue pulsing blue bar draw with some sort of gradient effect - i've not looked closely at the code behind it, i only know that it uses fade_color, becaue i had to dig around to find out what the expected range for the alpha argument to that was
11:37:42Unhelpfulwould it be possible to have the scroll engine only updating a structure that says what offset the scroll is at, or whatever else the scroll engine needs to know about, without it doing the actual drawing?
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11:45:56Unhelpfulor, perhaps, just a draw_it_my_darn_self bool field ;)
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11:55:41naubreyDoes rockbox work on any of the cheap wanna-be ipod nock-offs on ebay?
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11:56:22JdGordonno
11:57:19naubreyWell thanks for shattering all my hopes and dreams!!! lol. Oh well.
11:57:27JdGordonalways a pleasure
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11:59:10naubreyIf I purchase one of the said nock-offs and send it to a rockbox developer... is there a chance it would be supported in the future?
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12:00:09JdGordonprobably not
12:00:48naubreyI realize it is supported on a bunch of devices, but is there a 'best' if I go purchase something? Or does it work equally on all devices?
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12:05:48n1snaubrey: we have a BuyersGuide page in the wiki
12:05:59naubreythx. I'll check it out.
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12:06:00n1sit depends a lot on what you want the player to do
12:06:05n1smeh
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12:20:05casainhohello :-) −− on bootloader, I am getting the error: "File not found", however I have the dir .rockbox and all files there...
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12:33:21bertrikviewports in a wps shouldn't overlap, right?
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12:34:14PaulJamthey can overlap when they aren't displayed at the same time (conditional viewports)
12:34:49PaulJambut otherwise it is likely to cause flickering
12:37:20bertrikok, thanks
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12:54:55Hdaackdahi. i need major help!
12:56:01HdaackdaI've got an ipod video 30gb (5.5 ) and i instaled the wrong firmware.. Now it shows the apple screen of death (www.apple.com/support).. doesnt get detected by the computer or runs...
12:58:09n1sHdaackda: what do yuo mean by installign the wrong firmware?
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13:00:35Hdaackdaumm.. I had problems with my 80gb video.. it was not getting detected on any pc (even in disk mode). so i took out its harddisk, put it inside 30gbs.. and updated it using Itunes! ( i also had rockbox installed on both of em)
13:01:53n1scan you get it to the diskmode?
13:01:58Hdaackdano
13:02:23Hdaackdathe same screen appears...
13:02:38n1scan you put the 30bg disk back maybe?
13:03:01Hdaackdatried that too.. same problem.. infact, now its on both the ipods!!
13:06:12Hdaackdaaby ideas 4 a solution?
13:07:12n1sI'm not too good at fixing troubled ipods so you may want to hang around for a while and see if anyone who knows something about this comes around
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13:08:11Hdaackdaok..
13:08:27pixelmahow are you trying to get it in disk mode?
13:08:43Hdaackdaselect button + play
13:08:51Hdaackdaafter reseting it..
13:09:48pixelmacan you start the original firmware?
13:09:53Hdaackdano
13:11:21Hdaackdai can't even get them start in diagnostic mode
13:14:25Hdaackdaany help would be appreciated
13:18:04pixelmabe patient, not everyone knows a lot about Ipods (me neither) and not everyone is at the keyboard all the time. My only other idea would be to check connections etc. if you swapped disks (I'm not sure though if you at least should get something even if the disk is not detected)
13:19:40Hdaackdak.. yup. will wait for someone more tech aware... may even be willing to giv $10 (or something..) if it starts working again!!
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13:49:51BigBambiHdaackda: It isn't someone more tech aware as the people that you have spoken to are very tech aware, it is waiting for someone that specifically knows ipods
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14:19:18casainhoI got my firmware zip file with name "rockbox.playerlittle" and bootloader can't find it because bootloader looks for the "rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle". After renaming the file, the bootloader correctly found it :-) −− where is the mistake? what should I do for the make zip put the correct name of that file?
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14:43:46casainhoI am getting an error, on load_firmware(), which calls lseek() and returns with -2. Can someone help me?
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14:47:17kadobancasainho: firmware/common/file.c line.. 711 or so, -2 means you messed up the arguments to lseek itseems like
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14:48:01casainhohmmmm....
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14:48:16casainholseek means line seek?
14:48:58kadobani'm not sure what the l actually stands for, but no..it's for seeking in files. the units are bytes. if you look up POSIX lseek, rockbox's version is very similar
14:49:29casainhoit is called here: lseek(fd, FIRMWARE_OFFSET_FILE_DATA, SEEK_SET);
14:49:51casainhoon common.c, from load_firmware()
14:51:02kadobani don't know then. if it's not code you wrote, it's unlikely the arguments are wrong. check errno i guess?
14:52:22casainhoah, sorry - can be my mistake while debbuging, I think that it not hangs there finaly
14:52:37kadoban:)
14:52:56casainhokadoban: and about this:
14:52:59casainho>I got my firmware zip file with name "rockbox.playerlittle" and bootloader can't find it because bootloader looks for the "rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle". After renaming the file, the bootloader correctly found it :-) −− where is the mistake? what should I do for the make zip put the correct name of that file?
14:53:26kadobani have no idea. the build scripts scare me
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14:54:50casainhokadoban: okok, thanks ;-)
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15:09:18mcuelenaerecasainho: you defined BOOTFILE_EXT to rockboxplayerlittle in your config-XX.h, that's why the bootloader can't find the file
15:09:52*mcuelenaere wonders whether that value shouldn't be passed from tools/configure..
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15:11:03casainhomcuelenaere: so, what I did worng?
15:11:10casainhosorry, can't understand
15:11:27mcuelenaereyou'll need to make sure the value BOOTFILE_EXT & BOOTFILE are the same as boot_output in tools/configure
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15:12:43casainhoah, ok, I will rectify :-)
15:12:46casainhothanks :-)
15:15:07casainhothere is no BOOTFILE on tools/configure :-(
15:15:18mcuelenaereno, the other way around
15:15:24mcuelenaereBOOTFILE is in config-<target>.h
15:15:29mcuelenaereand boot_output is in tools/configure
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15:15:52mcuelenaerebootoutput*
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15:16:48casainhoso, bootoutput should be equal to BOOTFILE_EXT ?
15:17:22mcuelenaereno, BOOTFILE should
15:17:30mcuelenaerebut BOOTFILE depends on BOOTFILE_EXT
15:17:52mcuelenaere(and I don't think it's necessary to have 2 define's for this, but I could be wrong)
15:18:41casainhoI am confused
15:19:01mcuelenaerelook at what load_firmware() does in your bootloader.c file, then you'll understand
15:19:04casainhoso, I have this: #define BOOTFILE_EXT "rockboxplayerlittle"
15:19:10mcuelenaereyes, and that's incorrect
15:19:26mcuelenaerebecause it doesn't match bootoutput
15:19:58casainhoand waht should I put on bootoutput?
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15:20:09mcuelenaerethe same as in BOOTFILE
15:20:34mcuelenaerebootoutput is what the bootloader gets called when generated
15:20:46mcuelenaereuh I'm wrong :S
15:21:18casainhooh man...
15:21:45mcuelenaereit's output, not bootoutput :)
15:22:13mcuelenaereso the bootloader looks for "./rockbox"BOOTFILE
15:22:15casainhoso, any suggestion for output and bootouput?
15:22:26mcuelenaerewhich is called rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle in your case
15:22:34mcuelenaerebut output is rockbox.playerlittle
15:22:41casainhoyes...
15:22:49mcuelenaerecasainho: just name them the same
15:22:56casainhoah, okok :-)
15:23:04mcuelenaereprobably rockbox.playerlittle looks best
15:23:07casainhoand the name for bootouput?
15:23:25mcuelenaerehmm it seems there's no consistency in naming them
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15:23:45mcuelenaereI'd go for rockboot.playerlittle, but you could also do rockbox.player_little_bootloader or bootloader.player_little or whatever
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15:24:06casainhookok :-)
15:24:20mcuelenaerehmm and the modelid shouldn't be 999 in tools/configure
15:25:04Hdaackdahi. need a bit of help.. how can I restore my ipod 80gb without itunes?? or install rockbox?
15:25:48Hdaackdai installed the wrong firmware.. then somehow managed to go to disk mode!! the disk is not formated and itunes tells me to restore.. (but its a 80gb harddisk on 30gb ipod..)
15:25:54casainhomcuelenaere: just used that value because would give me problems if someone creates a new target while I get my working
15:25:55Hdaackdai dont wanna mess things further
15:27:30mcuelenaerecasainho: ok
15:28:17casainhoI am now building the firmqware + bootloader :-)
15:28:32kadobanHdaackda: is this what you're looking for? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodManualRestore (not really sure, but it sounds like it might be)
15:28:38Hdaackdaok.. 30gb working fine now... (drained battery.. connected 30gb hddisk n it works.. )
15:28:38HdaackdaBut 80gb harddisk just keeps shutting again and again... but if i put it on my 30gb ipod (i.e. 80gb hddisk on 30gb ipod), i am able to go to disk mode... but comp says harddisk not formated
15:28:38Hdaackdaalso: itunes say you need to restore..
15:28:38DBUGEnqueued KICK Hdaackda
15:28:38Hdaackdaany idea what to do? if i restore it, 80gb hardisk wuld get messed up, right.. how wuld i then install rockbox on it??
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15:43:46JdGordonkugel: hey, did you get around to testing that diff i posted last week?
15:44:39kugelJdGordon: ah, totally forgot about it. if you could paste again, I'll do a test right now
15:45:10kugelalso, you said you're going to commit anyway ;)
15:45:27JdGordon:) yeah, but testing is always good....
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15:45:45JdGordonjdgordon.info/~jonno/statusbar.diff">http://jdgordon.info/~jonno/statusbar.diff
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15:46:11kugelJdGordon: I played a bit around with having the wps to issue the redraw when leaving, so the dead parts are gone when entering a custom vp screen
15:46:28JdGordonthat shouldnt be needed....
15:46:45kugelhow do you want to get the dead parts away?
15:47:23JdGordonreenableing the custom vp should do it automatically...
15:47:43kugelyes, and that's what the wps should do right?
15:48:11JdGordonindirectly...
15:48:47kugelanyway, if the redraw happens in wps context, it won't work
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15:49:07bertrikare there any cue sheet experts online?
15:49:21JdGordondepends on what you need....
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15:49:24kugelthe wps can only clear, the next screen has do update the screen then
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15:50:02bertrikFS #9638 looks like a nice cleanup, but I don't know how to test it
15:51:08JdGordonneither... umm... I'm working on a patch which will make that irrelevant.. but its moving slowly :/
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15:51:27JdGordonwhen i looked at that patch a while ago i thought it looked fine
15:51:36kugelJdGordon: what I'd like to do is to send a "redraw message", right before leaving the wps (the next screen will be up in the next tick), and at the next tick the screen is fully updated
15:52:20JdGordonthat should be fine
15:52:36kugelthat should work good, at least
15:52:41JdGordonexcept replace tick with next screen
15:52:56kugel?
15:53:04casainhowhen on the bootloader, I get the message on LCD: Model name: ****5 −−> being * weird characters... why?
15:53:30kugelcasainho: because you pass those weird chars to scramble maybe?
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15:53:49kugelthe scrable tool inserts the short model string into the main binary
15:54:00casainhohmmm, I don't know nothing about the scramble... what is the scramble?
15:54:12casainhoah, ok
15:54:20mcuelenaerecasainho: you've probably not used scramble when generating the firmware file
15:54:22kugelJdGordon: "except replace tick with next screen" what do you mean with that?
15:54:28mcuelenaerelook at tools/configure how other targets do this
15:54:35mcuelenaereand you'll need to modify scramble.c too
15:55:04JdGordonkugel: when the wps exits it tells the vpm to clear the screen totaly, then when the next screen "loads" it redraws as soon as it can
15:55:52kugelso the screen should do it, not the tick tak?
15:55:56casainhomcuelenaere: my model name is this one: modelname="rockboxplayerlittle"
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15:56:12bertrikcasainho, maybe that's too long
15:56:14JdGordonkugel: there is no more tick task
15:56:37casainhobertrik: ok, I will short it, since my LCD is 128x :-)
15:56:41kugelI'm sure there is one which could be abused ;)
15:56:54JdGordonthere *was* one which was removed
15:57:09mcuelenaerecasainho: look at http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/tools/scramble.c?r1=19083&r2=19574 for an example how to implement scramble.c
15:57:23kugelwell, then I'll need to do that what you said should not be done
15:57:31JdGordon?
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15:59:56mcuelenaerecasainho: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/tools/scramble.c?r1=18957&r2=19083 is probably a better example
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16:00:00casainhomcuelenaere: I just need to add that elseif for my model?
16:00:20mcuelenaereyes, and you'll need to change tools/configure
16:01:09kugelJdGordon: well, you said it should be (entirely) up to the screen which doesn't use the custom vp to restore it (fully and correctly)
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16:01:28mcuelenaerecasainho: you'll need to add tool="$rootdir/tools/scramble -add=<target>"
16:01:44kugelbut that's not possible, so either the new screen, or a scheduled event has to do the redraw
16:01:44mcuelenaereand change toolset to toolset=$scramblebitmaptools
16:01:44JdGordonwhat? how can it restore some other screen? the best it can do is erase the bits outside the used area
16:02:00kugelthat's what you said..
16:02:06JdGordonwhen?
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16:04:11kugel"JdGordonits the responsability to the screen which disables them to reenable them", maybe I got you wrong, but it sounded to me that custom-vp-screens should be untouched when it comes to reenabling the custom vp
16:05:36JdGordonyes you misunderstood, or read in more than was typed... if the WPS disables the cvp then it must reenable it... the vpm will realise its changed and clear the whole screen when this happens so the next screen will draw correcly
16:05:43kugelthe other problem is that screens don't update the whole screen, but only their parent. the whole-screen update should be something external imho
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16:39:52casainhoI am trying to build correctly the firmware and I got the built witout erros but the final file "rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle" is not there however is there the files rockbox.elf and rockbox.bin...
16:41:01mcuelenaerecasainho: scramble is located in 'tools/scramble'
16:43:18casainhoI got this:
16:43:24casainho ../tools/scramble rockbox.bin rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle -add=rbplayer
16:43:26casainhoerror: firmware image is 384038 bytes while max size is 204800!
16:43:42mcuelenaerehmm I didn't know scramble had a max size limitation
16:44:29mcuelenaerecasainho: then you'll need to change that limit
16:45:02n1sthat limit is for the archos based players
16:45:11n1seh s/based//
16:45:37casainhohmmm, so I should be doing something worng, no?
16:47:00kugel_casainho: max 4 chars in scramble
16:47:42kugel_(afaik)
16:48:08casainhoah, I was using more than 4...
16:48:42kugel_casainho: no other target uses more than 4, why don't you analize existing code?
16:49:09casainhook, but I couldn't imagine...
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16:56:08casainhoI still get the same error: ../tools/scramble rockbox.bin rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle -add=rbpl
16:56:10casainhoerror: firmware image is 384034 bytes while max size is 204800!
16:57:42kugel_casainho: have you edited scramble too?
16:58:03casainhoyes, I did
16:58:29kugel_I wonder why the max size is 204800 bytes
16:58:37casainhohere is: http://pastebin.com/m119de29a
16:58:46mcuelenaerekugel_: n1s said that's a limit for the archos players
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17:00:14*mcuelenaere wonders why the rbplayerlittle fw file is so much bigger then any others..
17:00:41kugel_mcuelenaere: it's only 384k
17:00:42*bertrik can't make sense of how to control cue sheets on rockbox and seriously doubts if it works at it is supposed to
17:00:55mcuelenaerecasainho: IMO you should add an other value to size_limit and set this as a 'generic' file limit
17:00:59kugel_mcuelenaere: others have ~600k
17:01:13mcuelenaerehmm then why don't they have this error?
17:01:20mcuelenaeredo they all not use scramble?
17:01:22kugel_because they did it right
17:01:26kugel_they do
17:01:44kugel_casainho: can i see your configure?
17:01:55mcuelenaerecasainho: it'll probably be easier if you provide a diff
17:02:14kugel_and rockbox-info.txt which you get after doing make
17:02:33casainhokugel_: here: http://pastebin.com/me6237d7
17:03:01kugel_casainho: dude, "tool="$rootdir/tools/scramble -add=rbplayer_little""
17:03:02mcuelenaerecasainho: -add isn't according to scramble.c
17:03:24casainhooh man :-( :-(
17:04:08casainhothanks - I will try again :-)
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17:18:11casainhookok - I got it :-) −− I will put it on SD Card and see if bootloader can run it...
17:18:57linuxstbbertrik: What's the problem with cuesheets?
17:19:55bertriklinuxstb, on closer inspection it seems ok, sorry for complaining. The cue sheet I was using mixed up seconds and hundredths of seconds.
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17:20:29linuxstbThat would confuse things... ;)
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18:22:10casainhothere is any function with name "stackbegin()" ??
18:24:38casainhomy bootloader is jumping to stackbegin() and I don't know why :-( −− I just see that name on debug window...
18:25:25casainhoand that happens on file.c, funtionc: static int readwrite(int fd, void* buf, long count, bool write)
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18:25:51casainhosorry, on fat.c
18:26:15casainhoon this loop: /* find sequential sectors and write them all at once */
18:26:17casainho for (i=0; (i < sectorcount) && (sector > -1); i++ ) {
18:26:36casainhowith sectorcount being 714.
18:26:36mcuelenaerecasainho: stackbegin isn't a function, but the marker of the beginning of the stack
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18:27:15mcuelenaerehow big is your stack?
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18:27:54casainho#define STACKSIZE2k
18:28:03casainhoI will put 1MByte...
18:30:54casainhowell, I used 2MByte but I am getting the same problem
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19:33:00saratogadoes anyone have any thoughts on FS #9721 - No error check after writes in ata.c ?
19:33:16saratogai don't know enough about ata to comment, but it certainly sounds like the kind of thing we should be doing
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19:47:13kugelsaratoga: sounds reasonable, but an expert should comment on that
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20:04:27el_gato39874would my iPod get screwed up if I delete the iPod_Control/Device/ folder?
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20:05:17el_gato39874yes, I googled for information and I couldn't find anything
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20:05:58saratogaworst case is you would lose access to the OF, but not the emergency disk mode
20:07:15el_gato39874that would be fine because I can't boot to the OF anyway
20:09:02soapYou don't even lose access to the OF
20:09:17soapthe original firmware will recreate those folders everytime you boot into it.
20:09:50el_gato39874I don't get why the folder is 4.5GB though
20:10:03soapno music or videos?
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20:10:44el_gato39874I think it's saying it's that big because of disk errors on my iPod
20:11:21el_gato39874I've been trying to run fsck to fix it but it doesn't get past said folder and gives me a "Too many files need repair." message
20:12:13el_gato39874I've never had that problem before, so I'm hoping by deleting that folder, fsck can run its course
20:13:02linuxstbel_gato39874: Just reformat it (assuming you have a backup of your music).
20:14:42el_gato39874reformatting isn't a real option right now because I don't have enough hard drive space to backup all my music :/
20:16:33linuxstbTrusting a hard disk you carry around in your pocket as the only copy of your music isn't wise... But I would try and find a Windows PC and use chkdsk - fsck doesn't seem to be as good with FAT filesystems.
20:21:54el_gato39874hmm, it's been a couple of minutes and the delete window is stuck at "Preparing to Delete files..."
20:22:13el_gato39874I'll try doing that, thanks linuxstb
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21:18:15soapwhy did the latest commit cause uneven binsize reduction?
21:18:26soapI would have expected the hit to be equal across targets.
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21:45:10saratogasoap: probably due to alignment
21:45:50saratogathat stuct is full of chars, so its probably not an integer number of words, and it may shift things around when its added or removed
21:45:53soapyea, that's what I shamefully assumed as soon as I opened my mouth to express my ignorance. ;)
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21:46:53saratogabut it is odd that a couple targets are different by quite a few words, probably some gcc weirdness
21:47:40saratogadoes anyone know if the sansa can detect the difference between a USB insert and a charger insert on powerup yet?
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21:48:38kugelsaratoga: V1? I think jhMikeS actually implemented that recently
21:48:48kugelI'm fairly sure they can
21:49:26saratogai thought he did too, but i didn't have a way to test if it worked
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21:50:28kugelhe said he tested it by taking out the data lines in the usb cable
21:51:13kugelI have a charger here, and (with the OF) it always worked (as in the OF never tried to establish a connection, and the player was usable and music not stopping)
21:52:59saratogaactually, i do have a suitable charger
21:53:13saratogabut it still causes the sansa to boot into the OF if power is off when i plug in
21:54:48kugelHm, I don't know if the bootloader is touched by jhMikeS changes
21:54:56kugelhave you updated it?
21:55:54kugelbtw, I think, once USB is enabled on PP, some USB code should be moved into the bootloader for a recovery mode
21:55:57linuxstbIIRC, the bootloader uses a different usb detection routing.
21:56:01linuxstbs/routing/routine/
21:56:10kugelI nearly bricked my sansa today, while updating it in rockbox usb
21:56:55Bagderhow can anything be nearly bricked?
21:57:15kugelI could restore it using the OF
21:57:22saratogai'm also starting to see weird issues with the sansa OF detecting USB connects in recent builds
21:57:29linuxstbkugel: So not bricked at all then...
21:57:38kugelif I uninstalled the of because rockbox usb is working perfectly, I'd had to use e200tool
21:58:18kugeland needing e200tool qualifies as nearly-bricked imo ;)
21:58:30*linuxstb blames Bagder for creating the SansaE200Unbrick wiki page
21:58:30saratogayes flashing the of bootloader on the sansa is a bit risky
21:58:44*Bagder accepts all blame
21:59:28kugelhe's redirecting the blame to perl anyway
21:59:28saratogahaha plugging in the USB cable while in rockbox now causes my sansa to reboot . . . back into rockbox
21:59:30saratogaforever
21:59:30Bagderbut I really just used the term others would use, I didn't invent "brick" for non-bricked players
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22:00:08linuxstbMaybe "Recovery" would have been better than "Unbrick" (easy to say now...)
22:00:12saratogahmm and USB still isn't detected in the OF with current SVN
22:00:29kugelhm?
22:00:33saratogamy bootloader is probably 14 months old, i wonder if its getting out of date
22:00:52kugelusb isn't working in to OF for you?
22:01:24saratogait will if i switch USB ports or PCs a few times
22:01:30saratogabut i can plug it into the same port forever and it will only charge
22:01:52kugelhm, I'm having that problem too sometimes
22:01:53saratogai bet its because i flashed the OF bootloader with rockbox, so we're probably not properly initing something the OF needs in the most recent builds
22:02:16kugelSo did I
22:02:44kugelbut it's independant of the build. the bootloader is loading the of
22:02:49saratogastill its curious the rebooting the sansa doens't clear whatever changes rockbox makes to the setup
22:03:27kugelwell, rebooting just loads the rockbox bootloader again
22:05:38saratogait seems to happen even if i power off the device and leave it for some time though
22:05:46saratogai'd expect that to erase any internal register settings
22:06:04saratogahmm the bootloader has had quite a few functional changes to both USB init and power handling in the last year
22:06:46kugelsaratoga: I just hope http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8663 gets committed soon, so we can get rid of the of
22:08:40saratogakugel: even once that goes in, we'll probably not be able to enable USB by default since apparently the bus reset problem renders USB useless for some people
22:09:10saratogathough for some people it'll probably be enough for them to start using it
22:09:14kugelyea, the resets still happen
22:09:20kugelbut they don't cause corruptions
22:09:34saratogaand maybe this will motivate someone to reverse engineer the OF and find whatever magic "usb doesn't reset" bit we're missing
22:09:42kugelI had a few resets during the copy of the windows 7 beta image, but the file was fine
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22:10:28saratogais there a wiki page with the instructions for removing the OF bootloader?
22:10:44kugelsansapatcher -b bootloader.bin
22:10:57kugel(iirc, sansapatcher −−help should tell)
22:11:16saratogacan i use that to put the OF one back?
22:11:31saratogai'd love to see if theres a difference in battery life between the two
22:12:03kugelsaratoga: I'm not entirely sure if that's revertable without e200tool
22:12:50kugelI haven't tried, in theory sansapatcher should be able to patch the OF's bootloader.rom
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22:14:25saratogai've been meaning to do power measurements with a DMM using different ways of booting rockbox and the OF to see if the idle power changes
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22:15:11kugelI haven't noticed battery life improvements due to removing the OF bootloader
22:15:17kugelnor decreases
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22:17:00saratogakugel: did you battery bench both?
22:17:21saratogai haven't noticed a difference, but runtime is so long it woulnd't be hard for it to change by half an hour without me noticing
22:18:14kugelsaratoga: well, not exactly. but my battery benches don't differ from those who are on the runtime wiki page
22:21:36FlynDiceI'm using the unicatcher theme on my e200v2 and when I start up a grey box with "cleared" appears and cabbiev theme shows up. Does starting up with a button pressed cause this and what has been cleared?
22:22:37linuxstbYes, and your settings have been cleared.
22:22:42bertrikon e200v1, holding REC on startup causes a "cleared" message indicating cleared settings
22:22:59FlynDiceyep that's the one I'm trying...
22:23:01rasherShouldn't it be saying "settings cleared"?
22:23:28FlynDicejust says cleared..
22:23:31kugelFlynDice: how are you using a e200v2?
22:23:42kugelyou can't use any buttons afaik
22:24:19FlynDiceI can use buttons and scrollwheel in unicatcher very well
22:24:38kugelhow? what did you change?
22:24:41Unhelpfulbuttons don't depend on wps theme at all
22:25:15saratogai thought we had buttons on the v2 now
22:25:20kugelUnhelpful: you never know what suprises the ams sansas can offer ;)
22:25:24FlynDiceI'm just telling you what I can do... I don't know why..
22:25:50kugelsaratoga: not for e/c200v2 (at least nothing working in svn)
22:26:08FlynDiceI found the record button on dbop 15 and have been trying to get that to work...
22:26:14kugelFlynDice: how did you change the source code I mean
22:26:43FlynDiceI used the patch sko posted in the forum
22:26:44kugelah well, you're probably not resetting the button state in the driver probably
22:27:07FlynDicewith the fuze code
22:28:03kugelFlynDice: you can edit debug-target.h and debug-as3525.c so you can watch dbop in the system->debug->view io ports menu
22:28:08bertrikI think I'm going to make a wiki pages about FM tuners and make a list of what player use what FM tuner chip
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22:28:49FlynDiceyes have to change −−debop_din to DBOP_DIN though
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22:29:05kugelno..
22:29:06FlynDiceer __debop_din
22:29:24kugelyes, that's what I did in the fuze button code
22:29:32kugelsko's patch is outdated in this regards
22:29:58FlynDiceyou got something better for me to fiddle with then?
22:30:19kugelno,
22:30:52kugelbut you could paste your diff to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9639
22:31:30saratogahmm managed to "brick" it trying to update the bootloader
22:31:46kugelreally?
22:31:53kugeli.e. svn bootloader is broken?
22:32:03saratogayeah I used the downloaded bootloader with -bl
22:32:18kugel"the downloaded"?
22:32:23kugelthat's not the svn bootloader
22:32:35saratogaits not?
22:32:38linuxstbIsn't the downloaded bootloader an mi4?
22:32:50saratoga http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/e200/PP5022.mi4
22:32:52linuxstb-bl requires ".bin" - i.e. a raw file, no header.
22:32:55kugelI'm using http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=19222 as bootloader btw
22:33:01saratogaah ok
22:33:08saratogawell it should be fixable with e200tool anyway
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22:33:35linuxstbYes, you've just broken the contents of the firmware partition - e200tool will fix it.
22:34:13kugelhm, when I tried to flash it with a .mi4, sansapatcher refused to do it
22:34:34kugelbut I think I compiled sansapatcher myself
22:36:46saratogashould I be able to see the sansa with lsusb?
22:37:54kugelnot sure, does the wheel come up?
22:38:17saratogayes its a solid blue wheel, meaning I'm in the PP ROM
22:38:18kugelrun e200tool init, it will succeed if the sansa is connected
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22:51:44saratogain recovery mode do I actually need to copy the bootloader rom again?
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22:53:37kugelsaratoga: yes
22:54:30kugelsaratoga: e200tool only executes the recoverymode from RAM, it's not on the storage at that point
22:54:47saratogaah that makes sense
22:55:00saratogais it necessary to add the format file too?
22:55:10saratogaor is it smart enough to copy the mi4 and rom over
22:55:21kugeliirc it's not necessary
22:55:50saratogai'll have to update the unbrick page a bit after all this
22:56:39peturany specific reason why LANG_SERIAL_BITRATE_19200 thinks it deserves a spot in .lang? %d not good enough for it?
22:57:23Unhelpful, vs . for digit grouping?
22:58:12petur serial_port: "19200" <- doesn't show much digit grouping
22:59:02kugelUnhelpful: even if it is, I don't think digit grouping should be handled by langs
22:59:03peturbut I haven't had much rb time lately so maybe I missed a discussion about it
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23:00:43petur(same goes for 9600 btw... auto, I can understand)
23:00:57linuxstbpetur: Is this part of the ipod accessory protocol commit?
23:01:06peturs/9600/9600 and the others
23:01:18peturcould be
23:01:29peturI'll have a look
23:02:23linuxstbSeems to be - http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=19585
23:02:57peturyups
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23:05:23Unhelpfulperhaps it's to have the various numeric values interchangeable with the "auto" value, with the same format string?
23:05:55saratogai'm not sure why its like that
23:06:00saratogabut at least my sansa works
23:08:08petur"but it works" is rarely a good answer :p
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23:16:03casainhohello :-)
23:16:08amiconnsoap: The uneven size reduction is mainly due to the different code density of the architectures. What you see are code savings; the ram saving (which is equal on all targets) isn't visible, because it used buffer_alloc()
23:17:12soapthank you amiconn.
23:18:23amiconnSo the savings are actually much larger than what you see
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23:21:55casainhoI am getting PC jumping to strange addresses and right after going the undefined instruction vector −− here is the piece of code that is giving me porblems... I am using JTAG debug: http://pastebin.com/m1b8fdd62
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23:28:12saratogakugel: for what its worth, switching back to the OF bootloader fixed the USB detection issue i was having
23:28:33saratogado you happen to know if it was a specific svn revision that introduced this problem?
23:29:25kugelno...the problems started when I switched to KDE actually (which was about the same time when jhMikeS committed his work)
23:29:45kugelI didn't change my bootloader in a while though, I have no idea how this is all connected
23:33:54saratogai think something that changed in rockbox impacted USB detection in the OF, unless you've got the OF bootloader installed
23:34:06saratogaprobably because the OF bootloader reinitializes whatever rockbox changed
23:34:25casainhohere are two images showing the debug session and the PC on a weird address:
23:34:27casainhohttp://flickr.com/photos/43558168@N00/3242550058/sizes/o/
23:34:50casainhohttp://flickr.com/photos/43558168@N00/3242550052/sizes/o/
23:37:13casainhodoes anyone have any idea why that strange behaviour with this piece of code? : http://pastebin.com/m1b8fdd62
23:39:57bertrikit looks like firmware/driver/serial.c contains some unused cruft
23:42:19kugelcasainho: sectorcount and last-first should match, right?
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23:43:40casainhokugel: I don't really know... you think that is the problem?
23:43:52kugelno idea
23:44:12kugelmaybe you put a diff instead of the snippet
23:44:31kugelwe can't tell what you changed (and, besides, fat.c shouldn't need to be changed at all)
23:44:34casainhokugel: I didn't change that file!!!
23:45:20kugelso your sd driver seems not working correctly
23:45:33casainhokugel: just hapens that doing debug I can see that loop happening, and i incrementing... and if I put it on run, it jumps to that weird addrress :-(
23:45:37kugelor your linker script is not correct
23:45:57amiconnbertrik: ?
23:46:26casainhohmm... why do you think my SD Card driver is not working correctly? I can't understand why it could give problens...
23:46:40bertrikthere's a dprintf function in serial.c that doesn't seem to be used
23:47:55bertrike200 compiles serial.c but I doubt if it actually uses any function of it
23:49:21amiconnHmm, that dprintf was originally introduced for the beast only
23:49:33amiconnLinusN moced it out of that #ifdef ...
23:49:37amiconn*moved
23:50:00rasherWasn't he working on serial for pp?
23:50:04amiconnsaratoga committed that
23:50:50amiconnr14812 introduced dprintf, r19585 moved it (and yes, that's the accessory protocol support commit)
23:52:23casainhokugel: thanks :-) −− I need to go now
23:52:32casainhowitouth PC baterry :-(...
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23:53:26kugelsaratoga: I'll update my bootloader
23:53:37kugellet's see if jhMikeS's commit changed anything
23:53:45kugel(to the bootloader that is)

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