#rockbox 2009-04-14

Previous day | Jump to hour: 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 | Next day

Seconds: Show Hide | Joins: Show Hide | View raw
Font: Serif Sans-Serif Monospace | Size: Small Medium Large

Click in the nick column to highlight everything a person has said.
The Logo icon identifies that the person is a core developer (has commit access).

Notice: Only Gecko based browsers prior to FF4 support the multipart/mixed "server push" method used by this log reader to auto-update. Since you do not appear to use such a browser, this page will simply show the current log, and not automatically update.

#rockbox log for 2009-04-14

00:00:23	*	linuxstb waits for the "it's a hardware problem, no it's a software problem, no it's a hardware problem" arguments...
00:00:42	froggyman	ok, i guess i will wait and see how it compares to other rockboxable players
00:01:06		Quit Llorean (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
00:01:31		Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@adsl-99-185-10-52.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net)
00:01:59		Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection)
00:03:29		Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B47378.dip.t-dialin.net)
00:03:50		Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c264@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6c8ec166d65cbc6d)
00:08:05		Quit BXCracer (Remote closed the connection)
00:12:54		Quit DZX (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
00:13:54		Quit Horscht (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
00:14:33		Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht)
00:14:49		Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
00:15:41		Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk)
00:18:05		Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection)
00:18:09		Quit shotofadds ("Leaving")
00:18:27	amiconn	Unhelpful: That is only true as long as we don't make use of variable core voltage
00:21:18		Quit MT (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
00:25:58	saratoga	amiconn: so the core's own sleep function is equivilent to lowering the clock (ignoring voltage scaling)?
00:25:58	amiconn	Unhelpful: And yes, with variable core voltage it would be best to keep the clock constant, and as lonw as possible for the current load, with as little margin as possible
00:26:32	saratoga	i was going to say, that would imply the best option was to pick the lowest voltage we could get away with and keep the clock there
00:26:36	amiconn	saratoga: Yes. This is true for most, if not all cores
00:27:12	amiconn	But for PP it doesn't apply to the whole SoC, because the main clock is not only used by the core(s)
00:27:44	saratoga	PP seems special since "sleeping" the cores saves almost no power at all
00:28:08	amiconn	It saves almost all power the cores consume
00:29:38	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
00:30:13		Quit moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
00:30:17	amiconn	This is expected behaviour of cmos logic - a fixed state needs next to no power. Changing states is what needs power
00:30:25		Quit Horscht (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
00:31:41	amiconn	Leakage current is another matter - but that does't depend on clock at all (but it depends a lot on voltage)
00:33:11		Quit flydutch ("/* empty */")
00:33:53		Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht)
00:35:25		Part toffe82
00:39:58		Quit n1s ("L�mnar")
00:42:02		Quit ender` (" I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all t")
00:46:00		Quit Horscht ("Verlassend")
00:48:23		Quit hillshum (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
00:48:44		Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht)
00:49:02		Quit Horscht (Client Quit)
00:50:03		Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht)
00:50:44		Quit tvelocity[a] (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
00:58:15		Quit mcuelenaere ("Leaving.")
01:00
01:06:51		Join tvelocity[a] [0] (n=tony@athedsl-4488198.home.otenet.gr)
01:07:39		Quit Horscht ("Verlassend")
01:07:58		Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht)
01:08:08		Join bittin___ [0] (n=bittin@c-71-227-157-72.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
01:12:43		Nick kuber is now known as RahmTHERAMEmmanu (n=jbm@li35-208.members.linode.com)
01:13:41		Nick RahmTHERAMEmmanu is now known as RahmRAMEmmanuel (n=jbm@li35-208.members.linode.com)
01:14:31		Nick RahmRAMEmmanuel is now known as RahmEmmanuel (n=jbm@li35-208.members.linode.com)
01:16:57	FlynDice	saratoga: ping re ams sansa
01:21:57		Quit Horscht (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
01:22:18		Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4E221.dip.t-dialin.net)
01:24:31		Join hittudiv [0] (n=hittudiv@210.212.160.101)
01:26:53		Nick Hillshum_ is now known as Hillshum (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/hillshum)
01:29:16		Quit Horscht ("Verlassend")
01:29:30		Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht)
01:30:28		Join lightbulbjim [0] (n=jim@203.171.93.108.static.rev.aanet.com.au)
01:31:17		Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net)
01:32:01		Join kps00000_ [0] (n=kevin@i209-195-116-65.cia.com)
01:32:22	FlynDice	Can someone tell me(re ams sansa) if I try to map the IRAM from 0x0 to 0x3080_0000 with the mmu can the software still find the vectors that we relocate to 0x0 in crt0.s to start off?
01:32:29		Quit Hillshum ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]")
01:33:43		Nick RahmEmmanuel is now known as kuber (n=jbm@li35-208.members.linode.com)
01:33:56		Quit pbxy ("Leaving")
01:36:51		Quit _lifeless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
01:37:55		Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel)
01:38:33		Quit kps00000 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
01:42:24	kugel	FlynDice: the physical addresses are still accessible (except when you remap it, I guess)
01:42:41	kugel	in the patch mapping happens after crt0.S anyway IIUC
01:43:44		Join JdGordon\| [0] (i=836b0055@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f7c4a4fdd4e54c4b)
01:43:45		Quit lightbul1jim (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
01:44:09		Join itcheg [0] (i=62db4767@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8d5247b0499e1d27)
01:45:28		Part kuber
01:46:07		Quit Seed ("cu, Andre")
01:48:20	FlynDice	kugel: My point is though if we map the vectors to another location how does the software know where to find them...?
01:48:39		Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.)
01:48:40		Join pixelma_ [50] (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma)
01:48:50		Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.)
01:48:52		Join amiconn_ [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn)
01:49:02		Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma)
01:49:14		Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn)
01:50:34		Quit kkurbjun ("Lost terminal")
01:51:57		Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]")
01:52:03		Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net)
02:00
02:01:11		Join Hillshum [0] (n=ubuntu@75-165-241-119.slkc.qwest.net)
02:05:22		Quit Conic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
02:06:21		Join midijunkie [0] (n=Miranda@pD9547551.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
02:08:22		Quit Hillshum ("Leaving")
02:12:21		Quit scorche (" rawr...that is all...rawr")
02:13:25		Quit JdGordon\| ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
02:21:03		Join raymanism [0] (n=40d7d101@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-48183ded39fb3f9a)
02:22:21		Join scorche [50] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche)
02:24:40	raymanism	guys, still need help using mknkboot to patch my gigabeat's firmware... I tried using Cygwin and linux with no luck...
02:26:37		Quit itcheg ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
02:27:23	raymanism	I installed Cygwin following instructions from rockbox.org, then copied the necessary files "mknkboot.c bootloader.bin NK.bin" to a directory under my Cygwin folder
02:29:42	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
02:30:03		Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection)
02:31:53	raymanism	the first time I tried, I went to the directory with the files, and simply typed "mknkboot.c NK.bin bootloader.bin new.bin", but I got an error saying "bash: mknkboot.c: command not found"
02:34:01	raymanism	then one of the guys here suggested I use ./ before mknkboot... so I tried this suggestion using Cygwin as well "./mknkboot.c NK.bin bootloader.bin new.bin" , this time I didn't get an error, but it went to a new line and nothing happened
02:35:17	kugel	FlynDice: the software is just mapped to sections, and the sections get mapped too
02:35:35		Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk)
02:35:57	kugel	unless I'm understanding it wrong, I'm new to the mmu stuff too
02:36:23	raymanism	I thought maybe something was wrong with my Cygwin installation, so I tried under linux. I copied the 3 files onto a USB flash drive, went to the drive's directory in a terminal and did "./mknkboot.c NK.bin bootloader.bin new.bin"
02:38:18		Nick ManBearPig_ is now known as notfunnynow (n=james@oh.cyber-army.com)
02:39:03	raymanism	I got the following errors:
02:39:21	raymanism	./mknkboot.c: line 1: /bin: is a directory
02:39:34	raymanism	./mknkboot.c: line 2: bootloader.bin: command not found
02:39:43	raymanism	./mknkboot.c: line 3: syntax error near unexpected token '\|'
02:39:50	raymanism	./mknkboot.c: line 3: ' * Open \____ \______ ______\| \| __ \_ \|___ ___ ___'
02:40:24	raymanism	any ideas?
02:40:37	kugel	you need to compile it before
02:40:52	kugel	mknkboot.c is not the program, but the source file
02:42:45	kugel	why don't you just use rockbox utility?
02:43:01	kugel	see http://www.rockbox.org/download/
02:45:25		Join Senpai3330 [0] (n=4b8ffbfa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9a776f4b1faffc58)
02:45:36	krazykit	kugel, i didn't think the utility supported the beast?
02:45:47		Quit Senpai3330 (Client Quit)
02:47:11	scorche	kugel: unsupported target...
02:47:16		Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection)
02:48:31	kugel	oh, I thought it was about f or x
02:49:43	*	kugel can't really distinguish between all those mk*boot tools
02:50:03		Join jordan` [0] (n=jordan@jem75-10-88-182-222-63.fbx.proxad.net)
02:50:09	kugel	but speaking of it, what happened to the beast support for rbutil?
02:51:27	kugel	JdGordon: looks like my initial suspicion with temp_id3 wasn't wrong after all
02:52:59	JdGordon	nope
02:54:31	kugel	but I more or less guessed (though had the feeling that the pointer are messed up). Also, somehow failed when I replaced it with thistrack_id3
02:54:33		Quit jordan`` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
02:56:49		Quit tvelocity[a] (Remote closed the connection)
02:56:56	*	JdGordon wishes the delta table wasnt 5min behind the other one
03:00
03:02:02	JdGordon	is it completly broken now? im not seeing a delta for the new build
03:02:44	kugel	weeh
03:04:38		Quit kadoban (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
03:05:21		Join kadoban [0] (n=mud@cpe-24-93-17-195.rochester.res.rr.com)
03:09:03	raymanism	kugel: sorry I didn't mention this was for the S, an unsupported target as scorche pointed out
03:09:39		Quit HBK ()
03:09:55		Join HBK [0] (n=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net)
03:12:04		Quit kadoban (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
03:12:09		Join CaptainKewl [0] (i=jds@207-237-172-77.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com)
03:12:42		Join kadoban [0] (n=mud@cpe-24-93-17-195.rochester.res.rr.com)
03:13:36	raymanism	kugel: please bare with me. how do I compile mknkboot.c?
03:14:24	kugel	tried "make tools" in the tools/ dir?
03:14:47	kugel	if not, just create your build directory, run configure and then do make tools
03:18:52		Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.84-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.8/2009033100]")
03:20:23	raymanism	I'm not very good at compiling :) can someone elaborate more on kugel's suggestion? or at least point me to a guide with related instructions?
03:24:11		Join wangxiang [0] (n=wangxian@210.73.4.120)
03:32:25		Join dreamlayers [0] (n=dreamlay@bas4-windsor12-1279315722.dsl.bell.ca)
03:41:58	dreamlayers	I made a patch which starts the LCD sleep timeout when the PWM fade completes, instead of when it starts. It's in the 5G iPod LCD sleep task at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9890?getfile=18711 . Do I need to create a new FS task for that?
03:42:15		Nick notfunnynow is now known as ntfn (n=james@oh.cyber-army.com)
03:46:12		Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@94.50.161.64)
03:52:13		Quit Dekkard (Remote closed the connection)
03:53:10		Join Strife89 [0] (n=nds@204.116.244.200)
03:57:49		Join der\| [0] (n=der\|kuns@190.80.222.234)
03:58:04	der\|	hi, I've just bought an ipod and I want to install rockbox on it... can I install from linux ?
03:58:13	der\|	Ipod 5g btw
03:58:16	krazykit	yes
03:58:32	der\|	excellent, can you please help me on that, I would really appreciate it :)
03:58:43	krazykit	you'd want to look at the manual
03:58:50	der\|	ok
03:58:58	der\|	linux install might be covered there I suppose
03:59:22	der\|	my ipod is a video right ?
03:59:49	dreamlayers	der\|: yes
03:59:57	der\|	dreamlayers, ok
04:00
04:13:44		Quit dreamlayers ()
04:18:44		Join itcheg [0] (i=62db4767@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-17bb4225450cb32f)
04:18:48		Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey)
04:20:08	der\|	heh, you even have a gentoo ebuild :D
04:20:09		Quit agaffney (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
04:21:14		Join agaffney [0] (n=agaffney@gentoo/developer/agaffney)
04:21:42	der\|	krazykit, is the linux installer based on qt only, do you have a gtk one ?
04:21:55	rasher	der\|: qt only, since it's cross platform
04:22:00	der\|	rasher, ok
04:22:13		Quit Strife89 ("ClIRC - IRC client for Nintendo DS")
04:22:15	krazykit	qt should be statically compiled, so you don't need to install qt
04:22:17	der\|	rasher, ah right, so you only use qt for win/linux/mac, got it
04:22:51	rasher	With a bit of luck, you should be able to grab the static build and run that.. you never know though.
04:23:11	der\|	yeah, I have qt though, when compiled vlc, qt libs had to be installed
04:24:09	der\|	yep, runs perfect :D
04:25:20	der\|	can you totally delete itune's software from the ipod and leave only rockbox ?
04:25:44	froggyman	yeah, except for the boot loader
04:26:02	scorche	der\|: yes, but there isnt much of a good reason to do it
04:26:22	der\|	scorche, well, now that I think of it, right... it doesn't harm to have it there
04:26:37	der\|	scorche, the boot loader, can you edit it like you edit grub or something ?
04:26:49	scorche	no
04:26:58	der\|	so it doesn't have a config, I see
04:27:19	scorche	you can recompile if you really wish, though there isnt much of a reason to do so
04:27:25	der\|	right
04:27:46	der\|	scorche, I'm new to rockbox, and I'm asking to have an idea of what it does :)
04:27:58	scorche	it boots....quickly =)
04:28:04	der\|	excellent
04:28:09	der\|	man, you really have the TTS thingie ?
04:28:16	der\|	it speaks the stuff u have in ?
04:28:19	der\|	I mean, the playlists
04:28:30	scorche	yes...might i recommend havng a look through the manual? ;)
04:28:31	der\|	it has something like festival built-in or what...
04:28:37	der\|	scorche, doing it now :)
04:28:38	scorche	oh no...not like that
04:28:47	der\|	ah, you have predefined sounds that you load
04:28:50	scorche	yet, at least
04:28:52	der\|	then it plays them
04:29:43	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
04:33:15		Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
04:33:52		Join lightbul1jim [0] (n=jim@203.171.93.108.static.rev.aanet.com.au)
04:34:27	froggyman	is the gigabeat S supported with rockbox?
04:34:29	der\|	I'm about to install the bootloader onto the ipod, I'm on linux 64-bit, can i run ipodpatcher from anywhere, or should I run inside the ipod's mountpoint ?
04:35:25	Llorean	froggyman: The supported list is on the front page of the site
04:35:39	Llorean	der\|: Have you tried simply using the util?
04:36:14	der\|	Llorean, I'm asking before running it, don't wanna do anything stupid, first time I use your software, just making sure...
04:36:30	Llorean	ipodpatcher is not the same as Rockbox Utility
04:36:40	der\|	ah, good to know
04:36:49	Llorean	They're separately linked to in the manual...
04:37:56	der\|	good, bootloader installed successfully :)
04:38:42	raymanism	froggyman: it's an unsupported target, but rockbox works on it
04:39:01	scorche	....to most degrees
04:39:33	raymanism	were you reffereing to RB on the gigabeat S?
04:39:35	scorche	when it is ready, it will join the ranks of the other builds just like all new ports
04:40:55	raymanism	I'm trying make a dual-boot install on my gigabeat S... but having difficulties doing the patching required
04:42:23	froggyman	raymanism: yeah i was, thanks, thats what i thought and i just checked the wiki
04:42:30		Join Keripo [0] (i=825bf155@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-22b16e4dc8af76ca)
04:42:38	Keripo	http://pastebin.ca/1391315
04:42:41	Keripo	\o/
04:42:59	Keripo	test runs, input works, video works and exiting works
04:43:12	Keripo	compiled through Rockbox's configure/makefile system
04:43:33	Keripo	now I can start working on the actual UISim ^_^
04:45:32		Quit timc (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
04:47:52	der\|	how's rockbox's battery usage compared to the original firmware ?
04:49:00		Part wincent ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org")
04:49:26		Join bs66_1 [0] (n=sysuser@79.138.130.110.bredband.tre.se)
04:51:04		Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-830cdb17c670310a)
04:52:55	Llorean	der\|: Depends on which device you're asking about, and if you're using it in ways the OF couldn't be used anyway
04:53:22	der\|	Llorean, well, normal ipod 5g usage, music / video playback
04:53:42	Llorean	It should outperform the OF for music in MP3 at least.
04:53:57	der\|	ok
04:54:00	Llorean	You'll probably prefer the OF for video, we can't make use of the broadcom video acceleration chip.
04:54:20	der\|	ah I see
04:55:05	froggyman	Thats just because of no availible data sheets, right?
04:55:24		Quit wangxiang ()
04:57:40		Quit froggyman ("CGI:IRC")
04:58:28		Join dreamlayers [0] (n=dreamlay@bas4-windsor12-1279315722.dsl.bell.ca)
04:58:52		Join timc [0] (n=aoeu@124.93.243.83)
04:58:58		Quit lightbulbjim (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
05:00
05:00:22	der\|	I'm stuck on the chess game... how do I get out of it :/ heh
05:00:47	der\|	ah, never mind, :P
05:01:40		Quit midijunkie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
05:06:46		Quit bs66_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
05:10:30		Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable))
05:22:49		Quit l403 (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
05:25:30		Quit Keripo ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
05:30:38		Quit efyx_ (Remote closed the connection)
05:35:49	der\|	the default theme looks really nice, I was trying to see the other themes, but it went to a console-only theme, no cool graphics or anything, how do I go about restoring the theme ?
05:38:46	dreamlayers	der\|: the default is cabbiev2
05:39:40	der\|	dreamlayers, ah, thank you, I thought it was rockbox default
05:40:05		Quit der\| (Remote closed the connection)
05:40:14	dreamlayers	der\|: rockbox_default is the simple theme that's built into the code
05:41:34		Quit MethoS-- (Remote closed the connection)
05:58:40		Join timc`` [0] (n=aoeu@124.93.243.83)
06:00
06:02:00		Quit blithe ("Lost terminal")
06:02:11		Join blithe [0] (n=blithe@blakesmith.me)
06:02:50		Join claydoh [0] (n=quassel@66-252-49-210.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net)
06:06:38		Quit timc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
06:10:43		Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
06:10:57		Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b2d08b7c30126ec3)
06:12:40		Quit itcheg ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
06:23:53		Join feisar_ [0] (i=jljhook@noppakerho.com)
06:23:54		Quit feisar (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
06:24:03		Join itcheg [0] (i=62db4767@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-10e2ce347a38f987)
06:29:44	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
06:39:21		Quit hittudiv (Remote closed the connection)
06:47:12		Quit goffa (Remote closed the connection)
06:47:20		Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105)
06:51:36		Join wangxiang [0] (n=wangxian@210.77.3.61)
06:58:55		Join pinguen [0] (n=ircuser6@72-160-73-170.dyn.centurytel.net)
06:59:05		Quit z35 ("Leaving")
06:59:22	pinguen	when i plug the USB cable into my c250 with rockbox running, it reboots into the OF ... is this normal?
07:00
07:00:02	dreamlayers	pinguen: If you have 3.2 that is normal.
07:00:50	pinguen	does rockbox not support usb transfers from itself?
07:01:02	scorche	"from itself"?
07:01:09	pinguen	the problem is that the OF doesn't support the microSDHC card i have in there, so i cant add any music to it
07:01:36	dreamlayers	pinguen: If you want that, get a current build.
07:01:43	pinguen	ah, okay
07:02:02	pinguen	by "from itself" i meant doing USB transfers with rockbox booted instead of the OF
07:02:35	pinguen	thanks dreamlayers, ill install a current build now
07:03:24		Join l403 [0] (n=l@85.132.159.239)
07:05:13	martian67	yes guys, congrats again on enabling USB support finally :D
07:05:20	martian67	could use a bit nicer splash screen though >_>
07:05:58	scorche	feel free to make one...
07:06:33	scorche	and it has been enabled for quite a while now...there are just a few bugs that exist, so we didnt want to enable it in the release
07:06:54	*	scorche cheers dreamlayers
07:07:17	dreamlayers	scorche: Thanks :)
07:07:35	martian67	i wonder if broadcomm will ever release video chip specs :/
07:07:54	scorche	heh...good luck with that
07:08:09	martian67	broadcom is very open with some hardware
07:08:12	martian67	but not other
07:08:28	martian67	like their crypto accelerators, they provided openbsd with both specs and sample hardware
07:08:35	martian67	after they asked once
07:09:00	scorche	well, feel free to ask and i hope my predictions are wrong ;)
07:09:24	martian67	has anyone tried o.O
07:09:42	pinguen	@dreamlayers: thanks again, just installed r20705, works great now :)
07:10:03	dreamlayers	pinguen: You're welcome
07:11:32		Join AndyIL [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32)
07:22:29		Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
07:24:50	*	JdGordon thinks his wps ram usage patch should be redone before doing the touchscreen...
07:24:55	JdGordon	but thats not much fun :p
07:25:35	kkurbjun1	:)
07:27:16	dreamlayers	JdGordon: What needs to be changed on FS #9886 - WPS RAM usage overhaul
07:29:03	JdGordon	it doesnt work at all anymore
07:29:21	JdGordon	I it broke it and its easier to start again than to try and figure out how
07:30:02		Quit pinguen ("O RLY?")
07:31:12		Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net)
07:31:32		Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net)
07:32:49		Nick kkurbjun1 is now known as kkurbjun (n=kkurbjun@c-24-9-80-197.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
07:32:57		Quit jeffdameth1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
07:35:08		Join jeffdameth [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-095-033-117-037.ewe-ip-backbone.de)
07:44:09		Quit itcheg ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
07:51:56		Quit dreamlayers ("Goodnight")
07:53:54		Quit intrados_ (Remote closed the connection)
07:57:43		Quit l403 (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
08:00
08:00:24		Join MT [0] (n=chatzill@41.233.151.195)
08:00:50		Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.)
08:01:02		Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts)
08:01:28		Join wangxiang_ [0] (n=wangxian@210.77.3.61)
08:04:34		Quit pixelma (Remote closed the connection)
08:04:34		Quit amiconn (Remote closed the connection)
08:06:21		Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn)
08:06:23		Join pixelma [50] (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma)
08:19:23		Quit wangxiang (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
08:27:33		Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org)
08:29:47	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
08:32:07		Quit jfc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
08:32:23		Join KBH [0] (n=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net)
08:33:15		Quit FOAD (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:33:15	NSplit	lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net
08:33:15		Quit at0m (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:33:15		Quit rvvs89 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:33:15		Quit fxb__ (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:34:04		Join pixelma_ [0] (n=pixelma@p54BD3732.dip.t-dialin.net)
08:34:05	NHeal	lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net
08:34:05	NJoin	FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net)
08:34:05	NJoin	rvvs89 [0] (n=ivo@pdpc/supporter/base/rvvs89)
08:34:05	NJoin	fxb__ [0] (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net)
08:34:05	NJoin	at0m [0] (n=at0m@78-20-136-118.access.telenet.be)
08:34:10		Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.)
08:34:17		Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma)
08:34:20		Join __lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@94.50.161.64)
08:34:26		Quit gevaerts (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:34:26		Quit _lifeless (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:34:26		Quit HBK (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:34:26		Quit rwcr (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:34:26		Quit DataGhost (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:34:26		Quit Unhelpful (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:34:26		Quit Tuplanolla (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:34:58		Quit claydoh (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:34:58		Quit Llorean (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:34:58		Quit tmzt (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:34:58		Quit SirFunk__ (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:34:58		Quit J-23 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:34:58		Quit Zambezi (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:36:36	NJoin	Unhelpful [0] (n=Militant@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful)
08:36:55		Join fxb390 [0] (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net)
08:37:11		Nick fxb390 is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net)
08:37:42	NJoin	J-23 [0] (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl)
08:38:09	NJoin	rwcr [0] (n=oremanj@xenon.get-linux.org)
08:38:37	NJoin	Tuplanolla [0] (n=jani@unaffiliated/tuplanolla)
08:38:55		Quit FOAD (Remote closed the connection)
08:39:00		Quit at0m (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:39:00		Quit rvvs89 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:39:00		Quit fxb__ (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:39:15		Join rvvs89 [0] (n=ivo@bright-snat.ucc.asn.au)
08:39:26		Quit rvvs89 (Killed by ballard.freenode.net (Nick collision))
08:39:30		Join Zagor [0] (n=bjorn@82.99.7.155)
08:39:35	NJoin	rvvs89 [0] (n=ivo@pdpc/supporter/base/rvvs89)
08:39:37		Join rvvs89_ [0] (n=ivo@bright-snat.ucc.asn.au)
08:40:01	NJoin	gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts)
08:40:16	NJoin	tmzt [0] (n=tmzt@adsl-99-164-62-86.dsl.akrnoh.sbcglobal.net)
08:41:43		Join jfc [0] (n=john@dpc691978010.direcpc.com)
08:41:45		Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@99.185.10.52)
08:43:33		Join jfc^3 [0] (n=john@dpc691978010.direcpc.com)
08:44:08		Quit Llorean (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:44:08		Quit jfc (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:44:08		Quit rvvs89 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
08:44:41		Quit CaptainKewl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
08:45:20	NJoin	at0m [0] (n=at0m@78-20-136-118.access.telenet.be)
08:46:58	JdGordon	overlapping viewports in the wps is a big nono right?
08:47:15		Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net)
08:47:59		Join claydoh [0] (n=quassel@ubuntu/member/claydoh)
08:47:59		Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@rockbox/administrator/Llorean)
08:47:59	NJoin	SirFunk__ [0] (n=Sir@208-15-25-145.netsync.net)
08:48:05		Quit SirFunk__ (SendQ exceeded)
08:48:13	NJoin	Zambezi [0] (i=Zulu@bnc.dotbnc.se)
08:48:36		Join happosade [0] (i=happosad@xob.kapsi.fi)
08:48:41	happosade	Hello
08:49:13		Quit raymanism ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)")
08:49:40		Join SirFunk__ [0] (n=Sir@208-15-25-145.netsync.net)
08:51:07		Join JayHaru [0] (n=jayharu@94.96.15.113)
08:51:08		Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC944.dip.t-dialin.net)
08:52:04		Quit claydoh (Connection timed out)
08:53:35		Join B4gder [241] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder)
08:55:07	NJoin	claydoh [0] (n=quassel@66-252-49-210.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net)
08:56:02		Join wangxiang [0] (n=wangxian@210.77.3.61)
08:58:13		Quit Llorean (Connection timed out)
08:58:31		Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN)
08:59:56		Quit wangxiang (Client Quit)
09:00
09:00:38	happosade	How to get rockbox.ipod in to iPod (5th gen 30GB) whit that installer on mac
09:01:14	happosade	I already used "Quick Start" and "Install"
09:01:24	scorche	then it should be there
09:02:13	pixelma	isn't the problem with the complete installation still there (in the released Utility)?
09:02:19	*	pixelma lost track
09:02:23	scorche	possibly
09:02:33	happosade	When I boot it (or it boots itselfs) it's not there
09:03:04	scorche	happosade: then check out the manual install bits in the manual for "installing the firmware"
09:03:55	happosade	scorche: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-110002.2.2
09:03:58	happosade	?
09:05:58	JdGordon	well that was easy.... someone wanted a working touchscreen in the wps? complete with customisability?
09:08:45		Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
09:09:27	linuxstb	pixelma: Yes - the RockboxUtility page has a list of known issues.
09:10:25	linuxstb	happosade: You need to install the bootloader and the main build separately - see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility#Known_issues
09:11:10	*	happosade hate times when things don't go as they should
09:11:13	JdGordon	hehehe... I have the play button actually working
09:11:13		Quit wangxiang_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
09:20:08		Join wangxiang [0] (n=wangxian@203.86.76.219)
09:36:29		Quit yosafbridge ("Coyote finally caught me")
09:36:45		Join yosafbridge [0] (n=yosafbri@ludios.net)
09:38:59		Join tim__ [0] (n=aoeu@221.201.146.215)
09:39:11		Quit timc`` (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
10:00
10:05:31		Join GodEater [0] (n=nbibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater)
10:05:44		Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection)
10:06:58		Quit kachna\|lappy (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
10:07:25		Quit Lss (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
10:07:45		Join Lss [0] (n=Lss@cm146.delta91.maxonline.com.sg)
10:08:26		Quit tim__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
10:08:37		Join tim__ [0] (n=aoeu@124.93.243.83)
10:15:42		Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s)
10:19:29		Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@adsl-99-185-10-52.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net)
10:20:08		Quit scorche (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
10:27:06		Join scorche [50] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche)
10:27:26		Join l403 [0] (n=l@85.132.159.239)
10:29:48	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
10:29:55		Quit JdGordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
10:30:10		Join lightbulbjim [0] (n=jim@203.171.93.108.static.rev.aanet.com.au)
10:30:14		Join motionman95 [0] (i=459792ac@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6d1a286b795c188e)
10:31:11	motionman95	Quick question: what does the macro "MAX_PATH" equal? I can't seem to find where it's defined,
10:34:14	n1s	it's the max length of a path in the FAT32 filesystem, iirc 260bytes
10:39:49		Join raymanism [0] (n=40d7d101@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-61613d45f7a43378)
10:41:19	raymanism	don't wanna sound like a broaken record, but can someone help me with patching the gigabeat S's OF with the RB bootloader?
10:41:36	raymanism	would really appreciate the help
10:42:29	tmzt	on linux now?
10:43:13	raymanism	unfortunately not! at work :) at home my IRC connection sucks for some reason...
10:43:38	raymanism	did you see my earlier post about what happened when I tried to patch on linux?
10:43:41	tmzt	I don't know how exactly to do it with cygwin
10:43:59	tmzt	if it's a simple ansi c program it should work though
10:44:02	tmzt	yes
10:44:22	raymanism	am I doing something wrong?
10:44:44	tmzt	you at least need to run setup.exe and install the c compiler (gcc)
10:44:46	tmzt	yes
10:45:06	tmzt	you have to compile a c program not run it as a shell script
10:45:43	raymanism	when you said I neet to install the c compiler, you're talking about Cygwin, right?
10:45:49	tmzt	do you have the whole rockbox svn checked out somewhere?
10:45:52	tmzt	yes
10:45:53		Quit lightbul1jim (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
10:46:58	tmzt	cygwin is not itself a c compiler, it's a unix-like environment for windows
10:47:11	tmzt	you also need make and subversion
10:47:16	tmzt	and binutils
10:47:43	tmzt	if you go to the dev group in setup.exe you should see all of these
10:48:39	raymanism	well instead of tweaking my Cygwin install, I can simply do the patching using linux... would require less preperation, right?
10:48:55	linuxstb	raymanism: Yes, it's probably easier on Linux. Which Linux do you have?
10:48:57	tmzt	probably
10:48:57		Quit ameyer (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
10:49:25	raymanism	right now I'm using an ubuntu-based distro
10:49:33	linuxstb	Are you in it now?
10:49:42	raymanism	well, the machine is at home :) I was just going to say!
10:49:49	tmzt	sudo apt-get installbuld-essential
10:50:08	tmzt	sudo apt-get install build-essential subversion
10:50:34	linuxstb	raymanism: Best to come back when you're in front of your Linux computer.
10:51:15	raymanism	linuxstb: I'm worried my connection to IRC won't be great from home, that's why I'm trying to get some pointers now, for me to try later today
10:52:46	raymanism	tmzt: so I need "buld-essential" and "build-essential subversion"?
10:52:49	linuxstb	Do what tmzt said (the second line only), then "cd" into the "tools" directory in the Rockbox source code, and type "make mknkboot". That should create the "mknkboot" executable.
10:53:00	linuxstb	raymanism: No, "buld-essential" was a typo
10:53:56	raymanism	it's all coming back to me... it's been 3 years since I last compiled rockbox...
10:54:09		Join hittudiv [0] (n=hittudiv@210.212.160.101)
10:54:14	raymanism	I see what I'm doing wrong
10:54:41		Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de)
10:54:41		Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl)
10:54:58	raymanism	will give it a go tonight and report back.
10:56:40	raymanism	linuxstb: after I patch NK.bin and flash the gigabeat with the patched firmware, I'll still need to transfer a build to the player, right?
10:57:37		Join Ubuntuxer [0] (n=johannes@dslb-094-220-228-199.pools.arcor-ip.net)
10:57:49	linuxstb	Yes. Follow the instructions on the GigabeatSInstallation wiki page.
10:59:00	raymanism	step 3 a, you're right...
10:59:11	raymanism	thanks guys
11:00
11:02:08		Quit raymanism ("CGI:IRC")
11:06:50		Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht)
11:12:41		Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B4755B.dip.t-dialin.net)
11:24:55		Quit Horscht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
11:30:48		Quit wangxiang ("Leaving")
11:37:36		Quit Ubuntuxer ("Leaving.")
11:44:45		Quit Horschti ("Verlassend")
11:44:58		Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com)
11:49:21		Quit motionman95 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
11:49:45		Quit einhirn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
11:51:14		Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt)
11:52:12		Join kachna\|lappy [0] (n=kachna@r3g248.net.upc.cz)
11:52:38		Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht)
11:54:37		Join robin0800 [0] (n=quassel@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com)
11:59:11		Join MethoS- [0] (n=lem@host-091-097-241-211.ewe-ip-backbone.de)
11:59:57		Join lightbul1jim [0] (n=jim@203.171.93.108.static.rev.aanet.com.au)
12:00
12:08:29		Join lightbul2jim [0] (n=jim@203.171.93.108.static.rev.aanet.com.au)
12:14:12		Quit lightbulbjim (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
12:15:00		Quit Lss (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
12:21:01		Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@94.51.208.23)
12:22:23		Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com)
12:22:47		Part linuxstb ("Leaving")
12:24:54		Quit lightbul1jim (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
12:29:50	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
12:32:06		Quit intrados_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
12:36:28		Quit __lifeless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
12:39:19		Join stoffel [0] (n=sfr@p57B4E297.dip.t-dialin.net)
12:42:28		Join lightbulbjim [0] (n=jim@203.171.93.108.static.rev.aanet.com.au)
12:44:27		Join gartral [0] (n=gareth@adsl-75-33-92-115.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net)
12:57:42		Join BXCracer [0] (n=bxcracer@78-62-4-159.static.zebra.lt)
12:57:56		Quit lightbul2jim (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
12:58:19		Quit BXCracer (Client Quit)
12:58:30		Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection)
12:58:33		Join BXCracer [0] (n=bxcracer@78-62-4-159.static.zebra.lt)
12:58:51		Join MethoS- [0] (n=lem@host-091-097-241-211.ewe-ip-backbone.de)
13:00
13:19:36		Join lightbul1jim [0] (n=jim@203.171.93.108.static.rev.aanet.com.au)
13:20:05		Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk)
13:22:08		Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-4488198.home.otenet.gr)
13:27:47		Join webguest33 [0] (n=523513c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6463dc28cc05d52e)
13:27:53	webguest33	hello
13:28:40	webguest33	anybody home?
13:29:21	Llorean	webguest33: Did you have a specific question?
13:30:22	webguest33	i'd just like to know if there's a possibility to have a telesystem jolie firmware in the future
13:31:20	webguest33	its a good player, but i bet it could be better w/ rockbox inside :D
13:31:31	Llorean	All ports are done by interested owners of the players.
13:31:56	webguest33	ok, got it
13:32:06	webguest33	sorry for annoying
13:32:15		Join lightbul2jim [0] (n=jim@203.171.93.108.static.rev.aanet.com.au)
13:32:44	webguest33	i'll try to build my own, then
13:32:46	webguest33	bye
13:32:49		Quit webguest33 ("CGI:IRC")
13:34:32		Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection)
13:35:10		Quit lightbulbjim (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
13:41:27		Join ultrasonic [0] (n=manohar@203.199.213.3)
13:42:02		Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection)
13:42:37		Quit ultrasonic (SendQ exceeded)
13:43:13		Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de)
13:44:25		Quit bagawk_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
13:45:32		Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B4755B.dip.t-dialin.net)
13:46:53		Quit lightbul1jim (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
13:49:52		Join bagawk [0] (n=lee@c-98-232-168-140.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
13:52:09		Quit lightbul2jim (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
14:00
14:21:21		Join ozone89 [0] (n=523513c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7345fea4f4994256)
14:22:00	ozone89	hello! how do I build rockbox for a non-supported player?
14:22:59	Llorean	ozone89: It's not as simple as building for another player. It requires a considerable amount of porting effort, implementing drivers for new hardware, etc.
14:24:01	ozone89	groan...
14:25:41	agaffney	ozone89: hence "unsupported"
14:27:13	ozone89	@agaffney: sorry for bad english, italian here XD
14:27:27	ozone89	thanks for correction anyway :D
14:29:52		Quit Zagor ("New harddisk")
14:29:54	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
14:31:29		Quit ozone89 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)")
14:32:30		Quit stoffel (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
14:37:51		Join itcheg [0] (i=41d59de2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2775df57f503570e)
14:39:19		Join robin0800_ [0] (n=quassel@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com)
14:44:43		Quit kachna\|lappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
14:48:12		Quit hittudiv (Remote closed the connection)
14:48:20		Quit B4gder ("It is time to say moo")
14:50:29		Quit robin0800 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
14:58:04		Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=44a04329@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37)
15:00
15:05:44		Join wangxiang [0] (n=wangxian@203.86.76.219)
15:10:11		Quit MT (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
15:10:41		Join MT [0] (n=chatzill@41.233.151.195)
15:11:41		Join CaptainKewl [0] (i=jds@207-237-172-77.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com)
15:12:38		Join robin0800 [0] (n=quassel@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com)
15:15:08		Quit MT (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
15:15:37		Join MT [0] (n=chatzill@41.233.151.195)
15:16:15		Quit einhirn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
15:18:33		Join Zoxc [0] (i=Zoxc@ti0128a340-dhcp0261.bb.online.no)
15:19:24		Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)")
15:19:39		Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=44a04329@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37)
15:21:18		Join stoffel [0] (n=sfr@p57B4E297.dip.t-dialin.net)
15:23:40		Join evilnick_7 [0] (i=0c140464@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0259c0120afb6930)
15:25:31		Join raymanism [0] (n=3a20ed9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-bb5d80f8f2b3a732)
15:27:59		Quit robin0800_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
15:29:30		Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.)
15:29:39		Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts)
15:37:30		Quit stoffel ("leaving")
15:37:38		Join rogerwilco [0] (n=chatzill@66.231.5.194)
15:52:53		Quit rogerwilco (Client Quit)
15:53:15		Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
15:58:15		Join nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@port-87-234-86-12.dynamic.qsc.de)
15:59:05		Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection)
16:00
16:00:14		Quit CaptainKewl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
16:02:23		Quit raymanism ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)")
16:05:01		Join bhat [0] (n=till@dslb-088-073-033-240.pools.arcor-ip.net)
16:06:49	bhat	anyone into the SansaAms I am trying to compile rockbox but I a failing
16:07:27	bhat	I know its still in developement but from the forum topic it sounds like its in a usable beta state
16:07:29		Join midijunkie [0] (n=Miranda@pD95471F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
16:09:33	bhat	I compiled the boatloader and its working but I am not getting further and I can't find any documentation of how to do it except the generall how to compile that does not work for the e200v2
16:09:59	bhat	can anybody help?
16:10:40	evilnick_7	Can you compile any other targets?
16:10:50	bhat	it says /rockbox-20705/apps/action.c:26:18: error: lang.h: No such file or directory
16:11:19	LambdaCalculus37	Did you get the source from the tarball on the download page, or via SVN?
16:11:19	bhat	I haven't tried
16:11:49	bhat	I used the one from http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml
16:13:10	LambdaCalculus37	bhat: To be honest, we really don't recommend using Rockbox on the AMS Sansas right now. It's only meant for developers at this point.
16:13:52	evilnick_7	I'd try to compile for a different target first and if that works then you've narrowed the problem down to being something specific to the AMS Sansa, rather than your build environment. Also - what LambdaCalculus37 said.
16:14:04	LambdaCalculus37	It's still very buggy, and a lot of features aren't implemented yet.
16:15:05	bhat	I know but I've been reading the forum thread since september last year and I would like to play around a bit I am into programming myself though having no experience with hardware stuff
16:17:06	bhat	There was a describtion of how to build a developer version in the thread somewhere but I don't want to read through all the 52 pages again :)
16:17:20	LambdaCalculus37	bhat: The best way to check out the source is through SVN.
16:17:34	LambdaCalculus37	Also, SVN will build the proper file/folder structure the code needs.
16:18:08	bhat	is there any difference to the daily builds?
16:18:29	bhat	I might just give it a try
16:18:40		Join hittudiv [0] (n=hittudiv@210.212.160.101)
16:19:16	LambdaCalculus37	The only difference is that you can keep up with source updates; all it takes is "svn update" and you can constantly update the source as it changes.
16:20:24	MT	linuxstb (or anyone who could help with this :) ) : in struct COOKContext, an array member of the struct is declared aligned using __declspec(align(16)) array_member_of_struct .. is it okay to use this sort of data alignment for rockbox ?
16:23:12	MT	or should I use #pragma's ?
16:24:43		Join raymanism [0] (n=3a20ed9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-217b2b1dd27ddac7)
16:27:35	raymanism	if anyone is willing to give me a hand to a linux n00b, let me know! I want to patch the gigabeat S's OF with the RB bootloader under linux...
16:28:07	raymanism	give me a hand to=help
16:29:40		Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
16:29:58	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
16:32:14	MT	raymanism : hi :) .. could you point me to the patch ? maybe I could help.
16:33:37		Quit raymanism ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)")
16:36:01		Join raymanism [0] (n=3a20ed9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-32d5022584b6bf80)
16:36:46	MT	sorry the alignment is with GCC's __attribute__ ((aligned(#)))
16:38:13	MT	raymanism : isn't it just a process of building rockbox for gigabeat S then copying the bootloader to the installation dir in your target ?
16:38:46		Quit raymanism (Client Quit)
16:39:53	evilnick_7	raymanism: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatSInstallation shows how to build a single-boot version (i.e. you would lose access to the OF)
16:40:09	evilnick_7	But bear in mind that this target is not yet supported
16:40:10		Quit tarbo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
16:41:55		Join wincent [0] (n=wincent@dyndsl-091-096-000-117.ewe-ip-backbone.de)
16:42:04	MT	anyone here could help me a little with a data alignment issue ?
16:42:38	wincent	Tell the issue, maybe someone knows something.
16:44:21	wincent	Sorry, did not see the logs. :-\
16:44:57	MT	in ffmpeg's code, some array is declared aligned like this (DECLARE_ALIGNED_16(float,array[]) ) which is quivalent to ( float array[] _attribute_ ((aligned(16))); ).. however in GCC's documentation the following is stated :
16:45:00	MT	"Whenever you leave out the alignment factor in an aligned attribute specification, the compiler automatically sets the alignment for the declared variable or field to the largest alignment which is ever used for any data type on the target machine you are compiling for. Doing this can often make copy operations more efficient, because the compiler can use whatever instructions copy the...
16:45:02	MT	...biggest chunks of memory when performing copies to or from the variables or fields that you have aligned this way. "
16:45:30		Join tarbo [0] (n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo)
16:46:17	MT	so, should I go on an drop the alignment factor, leading to more memory-optimized code or just leave the alignment as it is ?
16:46:31	MT	wincent : np, I wanted to rephrase the question anyway :)
16:47:39	wincent	How big are the arrays?
16:47:57	wincent	s/big/large/
16:48:28		Quit wangxiang ("Leaving")
16:48:35	MT	wincent : 2048 * float.
16:51:29	wincent	MT : I suppose that if the boundaries of an array are aligned to 16 bytes, than you might lose 15 bytes for every array at worst.
16:52:15		Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@74.0.180.178)
16:53:08	wincent	MT : So, if there are not so many arrays, it's preferable to access them faster.
16:53:24	wincent	MT : In my opinion at least.
16:54:15	MT	wincent : actually this is the only aligned array in the code.
16:55:09	MT	wincent : so in your opinion, I should just drop the alignment factor (16) ?
16:56:20	wincent	MT : I do not think so. I understand that the array is aligned at 16-bytes boundary and not every float in it. The speed in Rockbox is the crucial factor, I think.
16:57:12	JayHaru	i just read wincent as wincest....
16:57:16	JayHaru	DX
16:57:29	JayHaru	sorry
16:58:55	MT	wincent : yes, but in gcc's documentation it is mentioned that dropping this factor will make the copy operations more efficient (what I pasted above) .. more efficient != faster ?
16:59:52		Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host31-165-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
17:00
17:01:18	wincent	MT : The spec says about "the largest alignment used on the target machine". Greater alignment should equal greater copy speed. If the target machine uses alignment greater than 16 bytes, then drop the alignment declaration. Otherwise, keep it.
17:01:18		Quit kkurbjun (Remote closed the connection)
17:03:03		Join wpyh [0] (n=william@115.171.67.209)
17:04:09	MT	wincent : ok, thanks.
17:04:28		Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht)
17:06:59		Quit tarbo (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
17:06:59	NSplit	lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net
17:06:59		Quit tvelocity (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
17:06:59		Quit Horscht (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
17:06:59		Quit tim__ (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
17:06:59		Quit jordan` (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
17:06:59		Quit mirak (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
17:06:59		Quit synergist (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
17:06:59		Quit Bombe (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
17:06:59		Quit SUSaiyan (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
17:07:34		Nick Horschti is now known as Horscht (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht)
17:08:20	NHeal	lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net
17:08:20	NJoin	Bombe [0] (n=droden@freenet/developer/Bombe)
17:08:31		Join Ubuntuxer [0] (n=johannes@dslb-088-077-007-173.pools.arcor-ip.net)
17:10:18		Quit bhat ("leaving")
17:10:23	*	rasher wonders why there hasn't been a new rbutil released
17:11:15	NJoin	tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-4488198.home.otenet.gr)
17:11:15	NJoin	tim__ [0] (n=aoeu@124.93.243.83)
17:11:15	NJoin	jordan` [0] (n=jordan@jem75-10-88-182-222-63.fbx.proxad.net)
17:11:15	NJoin	mirak [0] (n=mirak@85-170-148-23.rev.numericable.fr)
17:11:15	NJoin	SUSaiyan [0] (n=SUSaiyan@cc84863-b.zwoll1.ov.home.nl)
17:11:30		Quit mirak (SendQ exceeded)
17:12:26		Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@85-170-148-23.rev.numericable.fr)
17:12:36		Join jordan`` [0] (n=jordan@jem75-10-88-182-222-63.fbx.proxad.net)
17:13:44		Quit nibbler (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
17:14:43		Quit midijunkie ("?(???~�~)?")
17:15:36		Quit SUSaiyan (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
17:15:36		Quit tvelocity (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
17:15:36		Quit tim__ (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
17:15:36		Quit jordan` (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
17:15:42	NJoin	tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-4488198.home.otenet.gr)
17:15:42	NJoin	jordan` [0] (n=jordan@jem75-10-88-182-222-63.fbx.proxad.net)
17:15:42	NJoin	SUSaiyan [0] (n=SUSaiyan@cc84863-b.zwoll1.ov.home.nl)
17:16:19		Join pinguen [0] (n=ircuser6@128-193-148-65.oregonstate.edu)
17:16:51	NJoin	tim__ [0] (n=aoeu@124.93.243.83)
17:17:45	NJoin	tarbo [0] (n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo)
17:20:32		Quit jordan` (Connection timed out)
17:21:09		Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl)
17:22:18		Join midijunkie [0] (n=Miranda@pD95471F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
17:23:40		Quit midijunkie (Client Quit)
17:27:20		Join saratoga_work22 [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6492c19426486d84)
17:28:12		Quit J-23 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
17:28:29	saratoga_work22	MT: about 16 byte alignment, its probably not too important for rockbox
17:28:47	saratoga_work22	for now i would ignore it, although eventually it might be worth benchmarking to see if its any faster
17:30:09		Join wangxiang_ [0] (n=wangxian@203.86.76.219)
17:30:58	MT	saratoga_work22 : I just declared it aligned using gcc's ordinary __attribute__ , I'm trying to minimize the headers/code needed by cook.c .. maybe later yes if it has no crucial impact on speed I'll just declare it as an ordinary array.
17:32:34	MT	saratoga_work22 : btw, when you were writing the wma decoder, did you resort to adding a member or two from AVCodecContext to WMAContext to avoid using avcodec.h ?
17:34:37	saratoga_work22	I don't think so, what in AVCodecContext were you thinking of?
17:35:00	saratoga_work22	ffmpeg has actually changed a good bit though, so its possible that struct was different back then
17:35:55	MT	saratoga_work22 : block_align .. the decode function has to check if buf_size < avctx->block_align .. so I though maybe I should add this to cookcontext ?
17:36:10	MT	s/though/thought
17:37:49	saratoga_work22	MT: that seems sensible
17:38:08	saratoga_work22	it looks like block_align is some per cook file constant, so might as well put it in cookcontext
17:38:36		Join z35 [0] (n=z35@h180.157.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net)
17:38:42		Join J-23 [0] (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl)
17:43:14		Quit saratoga ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
17:44:18		Quit Ubuntuxer ("Leaving.")
17:46:01	MT	saratoga_work22 : another couple of q's :) : in avctx->priv_data .. what I think of is that I could avoid this by sending this data (containing the reordered packet + the descrambling parameters) from the demuxer to cook ? maybe insteab of priv_data I'll also add those members to cookcontext (subpacket_h,subpacket_size,..etc) or just send it a struct containing those. and for the reordered...
17:46:02	MT	...packet, I'll just send it an array.. what do you think ?
17:49:38		Join CaptainKewl [0] (i=jds@207-237-172-77.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com)
17:56:11		Join perrikwp [0] (i=18ac0c41@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4194ae36cecb11be)
17:57:15		Join bimbel [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl)
17:57:35		Join dreamlayers [0] (n=dreamlay@bas4-windsor12-1279315722.dsl.bell.ca)
17:58:42		Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
18:00
18:01:23		Quit bmbl (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
18:01:42		Nick bimbel is now known as bmbl (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl)
18:03:25		Join thegeek [0] (n=nnscript@s243b.studby.ntnu.no)
18:03:38		Quit wangxiang_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
18:04:16		Quit claydoh (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
18:07:10		Join evilnick_6 [0] (i=0c140464@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3c03fcf614812f0c)
18:09:48		Join halmi [0] (n=chatzill@62-47-163-40.adsl.highway.telekom.at)
18:11:50	halmi	Hello, I have a question about Rockbox on the Sansa Fuze.
18:12:13		Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
18:12:39	halmi	I know it's not supportet, but it works quite well on mine.
18:13:36	evilnick_6	halmi: Ask the question and if anyone can help then they will answer
18:13:46		Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection)
18:14:16	halmi	The thing I'm not sure about is charging. The Wiki (SansaAMS) says, that charging is currently not supported on the Fuze.
18:14:51		Join claydoh [0] (n=quassel@66-252-49-210.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net)
18:15:01		Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky)
18:15:20	halmi	But if I plug in the USB-cable with Select pressed, then the battery seems to get charged very fast.
18:15:49	evilnick_6	I guess that the forum thread might have more information on that. And until this is a supported target then you might be better off using the OF for charging
18:16:34	halmi	I just want to know if this "status" can harm my battery.
18:16:53	dreamlayers	halami: Do you really mean that the battery gets charged quickly, or do you just mean that the battery indicator increases?
18:17:21	dreamlayers	halmi: Sorry, about misspelling your name
18:17:41	halmi	dreamlayers: no problem - Well - it seems it gets charged, so the battery indicator increases.
18:17:42		Join Ubuntuxer [0] (n=johannes@dslb-094-220-238-125.pools.arcor-ip.net)
18:18:24	halmi	I hope it is not chargin at that speed. I can't imagine this would be good for the battery...
18:18:34	evilnick_6	halmi: Have you tried to charge it under Rockbox then check with the OF?
18:19:20	halmi	In fact, I was too afraid of harming my battery to keep it connected for a longer time.
18:19:32	dreamlayers	halmi: When a battery starts to be charged, the voltage increases instantly. That's what's necessary to feed current back into the battery. It can increase the indicator a lot. However, it doesn't mean that the battery is being charged very rapidly.
18:20:08	halmi	Okay.
18:20:33	halmi	I was just a bit confused because the behaviour is different on my H300.
18:22:17	dreamlayers	If a recently committed patch breaks something, should I submit a new FS task or reopen the old one?
18:22:33		Join perrikwp [0] (i=9821373a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8f355ebcda9b79d7)
18:24:32		Join cspotcode [0] (n=bradla@vpnwl-228-51.net.rpi.edu)
18:27:37		Join wangxiang [0] (n=wangxian@210.77.3.163)
18:29:16	n1s	dreamlayers: i don't think we have a policy on that
18:29:18		Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
18:30:00	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
18:31:09	n1s	i think opening a new task is most common, and maybe reopening an old one if the patch is reverted
18:31:10		Quit bmbl ("Woah!")
18:34:39	dreamlayers	n1s: A bit earlier I reopened FS #8523 (Disable WPS updating when the backlight is off) because it breaks caption backlight. I guess I'll see if people complain.
18:36:07		Quit CaptainKewl ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )")
18:45:48	MT	saratoga_work22 : ping
18:46:32	saratoga_work22	MT: pong
18:47:19		Part wpyh ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org")
18:47:48		Join DZX [0] (n=ZX@c-68-41-243-38.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
18:47:58	MT	saratoga_work22 : here -> http://pastebin.com/m46ff6a42
18:48:23	MT	to keep track of frame_number .. should I add this too to COOKContext ?
18:48:51	MT	also, *datasize, I can't really get what it is useful for ?
18:49:15	saratoga_work22	i'm not that familar with the cook code yet, but that would make sense
18:49:27	saratoga_work22	linuxstb did something similar with the WMA parser
18:50:21	saratoga_work22	MT: what does cook actually put in the private data?
18:50:32	saratoga_work22	err I mean "priv_data"
18:50:32		Quit DZX (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
18:50:40	saratoga_work22	just the CookContext?
18:50:42		Join DZX [0] (n=ZX@c-68-41-243-38.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
18:50:59	saratoga_work22	nevermind I see that it does
18:51:32	saratoga_work22	i think it would make most sense to get rid of avctx entirely and just put its variables into the cookcontext or whatever struct the RM parser is using
18:51:48	MT	saratoga_work22 : from the demuxer, it seems priv_data points points to a RMStream struct, which contains the reordered packet and the audio descrambling parameters.
18:52:42	saratoga_work22	but you removed the packet buffer from it and just pass it in as an argument?
18:52:43		Quit DZX (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
18:55:37	MT	I haven't done that, the only thing I changed in the function's parameter is AVCodecContext −−> COOKContext .. the function just takes an input buffer, decodes it and puts it in the output buffer.
18:56:35	MT	I believe the AVPacket part is used by the demuxer only.
18:56:53		Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
18:57:18		Quit wangxiang ("Leaving")
18:59:03		Join Xerion [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl)
18:59:14		Join moos [0] (i=mustapha@rockbox/staff/moos)
19:00
19:00:40	MT	saratoga_work22 : I think the function is written this way to accept any input buffer (cook.c doesn't deal directly with AVPacket) .. so if using it the ffmpeg way the buffer would be passed like this : avctx->priv_data->pkt->data (looks weird to me, I'm not sure though.)
19:03:27	MT	our demuxer already doesn't need to deal with AVPacket, I'll just take the formula with which the data are reordered in a frame and use it to construct a proper buffer for cook_decode_frame().
19:03:39		Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepel@p579EC7CB.dip.t-dialin.net)
19:04:18	MT	saratoga_work22 : but I still can't figure out what is *datasize is doing there in the decode function. :)
19:05:09	saratoga_work22	MT: i assume its the size of the outbuffer
19:05:52	saratoga_work22	MT: can you send me your code so I can look at what functions call what?
19:07:18	MT	saratoga_work22 : the demuxer ?
19:07:45	MT	https://rm-wavconverter.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rm-wavconverter/rm2wav.c <−− this is the demuxer code
19:08:17	MT	https://rm-wavconverter.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rm-wavconverter/cook <−− cook code
19:08:40		Join motionman95 [0] (i=459792ac@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1676eaa24461a209)
19:10:03	MT	saratoga_work22 : and yes, I recognized datasize as being that of the output buffer .. but what is it used for ?
19:10:26	saratoga_work22	MT: its to tell the rest of the system how many samples were decoded
19:10:40	saratoga_work22	without it you won't know how munch data to memcpy to the DAC
19:10:48	saratoga_work22	much
19:11:11	MT	saratoga_work22 : but the decode function actually returns avctx->block_align ?
19:13:42	saratoga_work22	MT: true, but data_size is passed out via pointer as well
19:14:00	MT	ah I see. silly me :/
19:14:05	saratoga_work22	i'm not sure what block_align is needed for
19:15:37		Join l403_ [0] (n=l@85.132.159.239)
19:17:09	saratoga_work22	ah i guess avctx->block_align is actually how many bytes the decoder has advanced through the bitstream
19:17:11		Join jeffdameth1 [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-095-033-087-033.ewe-ip-backbone.de)
19:17:46		Quit l403 (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
19:18:03		Nick l403_ is now known as l403 (n=l@85.132.159.239)
19:18:12	saratoga_work22	so the decoder returns avctx->block_align if everything goes ok, and less then that if theres an error
19:18:57	MT	saratoga_work22 : ah ok. Thanks for your help :)
19:21:53		Join JdGordon\| [0] (i=836b0070@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-41ee9235c3356ff5)
19:22:48	MT	saratoga_work22 : uhm .. block_align in ffmpeg = frame_size in rm header -you'd also find a comment in rm2wav.c mentioning that- so I think what you said was right but it actually returns block_align only if buf_size == block_align (frame_size)
19:23:25	saratoga_work22	wouldn't it be >= to frame size?
19:23:39	saratoga_work22	I.E. the entire packet is in the bitstream (not lost in transmission)
19:23:41	MT	I was just thinking about this.
19:24:48	MT	but if buf_size > frame size wouldn't that make the decode function produce a corrupted buffer ?
19:25:30	saratoga_work22	MT: I'm not sure but I asussume it just leaves any extra data in the buffer for the next time the function is called
19:25:51	saratoga_work22	usually things like this let you buffer multiple packets at once
19:26:24	MT	I see.
19:26:31		Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@168.16.232.173)
19:26:49	Strife89	May I get some help with a WPS?
19:27:24	pinguen	im trying to have the WPS text (artist, title, etc) overlap an album art image, but the image overlaps the text ... is this unavoidable?
19:27:26	saratoga_work22	MT: why doesn't the rmdec program call cook_decode_frame?
19:27:34	Strife89	I'm having trouble zeroing in on two errors.
19:27:46	MT	have you seen struct rm_stream in rm2wav.c ? (at the top, just right after wavformatex)
19:28:04	Strife89	pinguen: Put the text after the image in the file.
19:28:12		Quit JayHaru (Connection timed out)
19:28:33	pinguen	Strife89: tried that, the album art still overlaps the text
19:29:04	MT	saratoga_work22 : I'm still cleaning up cook (like removing avcodec .. etc.) then I'll start testing the decode functions.
19:29:11	saratoga_work22	ah ok
19:29:15	saratoga_work22	was wondering how its actually called
19:29:21	Strife89	... Anyway, could someone help me clear up some troubles with this? http://drop.io/4wedkoi
19:29:40	Strife89	The sim spits up two errors when I load the theme.
19:29:53	MT	saratoga_work22 : it's not, just calling cook_decode_init produces a seg fault :)
19:30:15	JdGordon\|	pinguen: no, you cant have text above the image, its currently not possible
19:30:38	pinguen	@JdGordon\|: bah, thats what i thought the case might be thanks for confirming
19:32:06		Quit jeffdameth (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
19:32:29		Join perrikwp [0] (i=9821373a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4b9ba665caba6996)
19:33:28	MT	saratoga_work22 : so what do you think about struct rm_stream ? (this is what priv_data points to in ffmpeg's demuxer), should I include those variables too in cookcontext or just leave struct there in the demuxer and send it to cook functions instead of avctx->priv_data ?
19:34:28		Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de)
19:37:04	saratoga_work22	MT: I'm not sure what most of them do
19:37:22	saratoga_work22	but i would say that if the decoder actually needs any, put them into the cookcontext, otherwise just make them locals in the rm parser
19:38:38	MT	they're used both by the decoder and the parser.
19:39:00	MT	actually they're set by the parser, used by the parser and then used by the decoder
19:39:14	saratoga_work22	even audiotimestamp?
19:39:49		Quit Ubuntuxer ("Leaving.")
19:40:20	MT	audiotimestamp is set by the parser yes
19:41:53	MT	ah by the way, thanks for the Makefile ;)
19:43:03		Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk)
19:43:09	Strife89	Anyone?
19:44:15	Strife89	Argh, class time has snuck up on me anyway.
19:44:22		Quit Strife89 ("Gone to class.")
19:44:28		Quit halmi ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]")
19:49:52	amiconn	dreamlayers: around?
19:50:36	dreamlayers	amiconn: yes
19:51:22	amiconn	Regarding FS #9635 - Iirc such an effect was also reported on v1 recorders, but I've never seen it on mine
19:51:30	amiconn	It may be a hardware revision thing.
19:52:00		Quit pinguen (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
19:52:01	amiconn	The patch looks reasonable, but there's some optimisation potential
19:52:37	amiconn	The register doesn't need to be read every time you flip the bit. Reading it once at the beginning of the function should be enough
19:53:04	dreamlayers	Oh yeah, good point, thanks.
19:53:09	amiconn	The i2c driver is mutexed, and outside the i2c calls the function doesn't yield, so there's no risk of bit mixup
19:53:31	amiconn	i2c is never used from within isrs on the archoses
19:54:46	dreamlayers	So, after optimization and testing, should I commit the patch for V1 and V2 recorders?
19:55:00	amiconn	V1, V2 and FM
19:55:28	dreamlayers	Okay, thanks.
19:55:30	amiconn	The FM and V2 are essentially identical, just that later V2s don't have the FM chip mounted, and the scrambling is different
19:55:54	amiconn	The rockbox binary is identical for both (well, apart from the platform ids)
19:56:23	dreamlayers	So, why is it necessary to have two separate builds?
19:56:42	amiconn	Different target id because of different scrambling
19:56:43	Bagder	since they're "scrambled" differently
19:56:51		Join cspotcode1 [0] (n=bradla@ninetails-63.dynamic.rpi.edu)
19:57:00	amiconn	Actually the scrambling is also the same, the header is what's different
19:57:08	amiconn	(the .ajz header)
19:57:13	dreamlayers	I see
19:57:36		Quit cspotcode1 (Client Quit)
19:57:38	amiconn	Regarding the other bug (hdd power) - this most likely only affects FM/V2 and maybe also the Player - need to check the code
19:58:42	dreamlayers	I don't know why it doesn't affect V1. It also shuts off IDE power in the bootloader if a charger is connected.
19:58:52	amiconn	The reason is that FM/V2 have no hdd power control in the main binary (because switching off the hdd power breaks battery voltage measurement), and neither does the Player (because some players poweroff when reenabling hdd power)
19:59:34	amiconn	dreamlayers: Yea, but V1 rockbox powers on the disk if it has been powered off, because it does have hdd power control
19:59:46	dreamlayers	Oh, okay, I understand
20:00
20:00:33	amiconn	Imo the fix should be that bootbox and main rockbox should power on the hdd when exiting the charging screen, even if they don't control hdd power later
20:01:02	dreamlayers	amiconn: Agreed regarding that fix.
20:01:42	dreamlayers	Is it okay to delay powermgmt_init() on V2 and FM until after that point?
20:02:06	amiconn	This is similar to the Ondio backlight. Stock Ondios have no backlight, but they can be modded to. SVN rockbox at least disables the backlight on startup, 'cause otherwise a backlight-modded Ondio would have its backlight permanently on when running SVN rockbox
20:03:08	dreamlayers	If the power management thread runs while IDE power is off on V2 and FM recorders, it reads 0V and causes a shutdown. It really has nothing to do during the battery screen because charging is hardware controlled.
20:04:12	amiconn	I know. Silly design, btw
20:04:58	dreamlayers	I mean during the charging screen. In my patch, on V2 and FM recorders in the charging screen I display charging current instead of voltage, because current can be measured with IDE power off.
20:05:37	amiconn	Charging screen won't shutdown though because it doesn't shut down while the charger is connected
20:05:43		Quit evilnick_7 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
20:06:10	amiconn	Displaying the charging current migh indeed make more sense on the FM/V2
20:06:14		Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org")
20:07:15	dreamlayers	The charging screen used to lock up after 20 seconds, as Rockbox tried to shut down the device.
20:08:39	amiconn	Hmm, it shouldn't do that....
20:10:55	dreamlayers	I should still confirm this with the latest version, but I think the problem remains. Higher level code prevents a user-initiated shutdown if a charger is connected. I don't think anything prevents a low battery shutdown.
20:11:23	amiconn	Unfortunately there seem to be several hardware revisions of each archos. Some of them can be shut down while the charger is connected, most of them can't. The V1 is an exception of course - it's always of the latter type because of its software controlled charging
20:12:45		Quit cspotcode (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
20:14:18	Bagder	"How do i unsubscribe from this list please? can't seem to find proper link." gets auto-answered when he reads his own post!
20:14:37		Quit l403 (Connection timed out)
20:14:53		Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk)
20:15:22		Quit einhirn (Connection reset by peer)
20:15:43		Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de)
20:16:15		Join l403 [0] (n=l@85.132.159.239)
20:16:16		Nick SirFunk__ is now known as SirFunk (n=Sir@208-15-25-145.netsync.net)
20:17:14		Quit einhirn (Client Quit)
20:20:46	dreamlayers	So, is it okay to delay powermgmt_init() on FM and V2 recorders, or should power management code prevent a shutdown while the charger is connected?
20:26:32		Join kachna\|lappy [0] (n=kachna@r4ax178.net.upc.cz)
20:30:02	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
20:30:05		Join PaulJam [0] (n=PaulJam_@vpn-3039.gwdg.de)
20:30:07		Quit PaulJam (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
20:30:17		Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3039.gwdg.de)
20:32:20		Quit l403 (Success)
20:34:03		Join l403 [0] (n=l@85.132.159.239)
20:35:21	MT	saratoga_work22 : could it be that when making COOKContext *q = avctx->priv_data, the intention was just to initialize the pointer so as not to deference a null one ? (I'm just taking a wild guess because I can't find it anywhere that cookcontext actually uses the variables inside avctx)
20:41:42		Join __lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@94.51.208.23)
20:41:53		Quit _lifeless (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
20:42:18		Quit l403 (Connection timed out)
20:44:35	saratoga_work22	MT: looks to me like they're used in decode_subpacket
20:45:00	saratoga_work22	q->joint_stereo, q->nb_channels, etc
20:45:55	MT	saratoga_work22 : actually those variables are declared inside COOKContext
20:46:25	saratoga_work22	i think priv_data is cookcontext
20:46:42	saratoga_work22	in other words the private data passed to the decoder is a the CookContext struct
20:49:25	saratoga_work22	i think this is done because the ffmpeg api itself doesn't have CookContext defined, so it wouldn't be a valid type, so instead they just declare a pointer to private_data which can be used by each format to house it's own internal struct without the api having to know whats inside
20:49:41		Join midijunkie [0] (n=Miranda@pD95471F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
20:51:24	MT	saratoga_work22 : makes great sense.
20:52:30	MT	saratoga_work22 : We wouldn't have to do that then, right ?
20:53:05	saratoga_work22	MT: probably not
20:53:36	saratoga_work22	it would be easiest to just pass the CookContext struct directly when you call cook_decode_frame
20:53:46		Join l403 [0] (n=l@85.132.159.239)
20:54:05	MT	saratoga_work22 : hank You very much :)
20:54:05	saratoga_work22	probably just by dropping AVCodecContext *avctx from the argument and replacing it with CookContext, once you've put all the important stuff in CookContext
20:54:22	MT	s/hank/thank
20:54:23	saratoga_work22	i doubt theres all that much stuff the decoder actually needs anyway
20:54:26	saratoga_work22	no problem
20:54:30	saratoga_work22	now i have to go to class
20:54:48	MT	Ok .. Good luck :)
20:55:14		Quit stripwax (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
20:56:11		Part LinusN
20:57:56		Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk)
20:58:46		Join Lss [0] (n=Lss@cm146.delta91.maxonline.com.sg)
21:00
21:01:08		Quit gartral ("Leaving.")
21:01:21		Join Dieterbe_ [0] (n=Dieterbe@213.219.169.58.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net)
21:01:58		Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl)
21:02:29		Quit moos ("Rockbox rules the DAP world")
21:07:30		Join Dieterbe1 [0] (n=Dieterbe@213.219.169.58.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net)
21:09:28		Quit motionman95 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
21:11:48		Quit Dieterbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
21:13:12		Quit miepchen^schlaf ()
21:13:35		Join pixelma_ [0] (i=57af1efc@rockbox/staff/pixelma)
21:17:11		Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepel@p579EC7CB.dip.t-dialin.net)
21:19:13		Join Conic [0] (n=conicpp@c-75-68-165-66.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
21:19:43		Quit Dieterbe_ (Connection timed out)
21:19:59		Quit faemir ("Leaving")
21:21:02		Join faemir [0] (n=quassel@88-106-238-71.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
21:23:19		Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org")
21:23:28		Quit faemir (Client Quit)
21:24:03		Join faemir [0] (n=quassel@88-106-238-71.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
21:31:33		Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection)
21:31:44		Quit SirFunk (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
21:31:55		Join SirFunk_ [0] (n=Sir@208-15-25-145.netsync.net)
21:32:08		Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl)
21:33:50	amiconn	GodEater: ping......
21:34:23		Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk)
21:35:25		Join kushalone [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.178)
21:39:16	LambdaCalculus37	dreamlayers: There's red.
21:39:52		Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl)
21:39:53	pixelma_	not his fault though...
21:40:00	dreamlayers	LambdaCalculus37: It appears to be due to the machine doing the building.
21:40:03	amiconn	LambdaCalculus37: Not his fault. GodEater's server is borked
21:41:12		Join CaptainKwel [0] (i=2669ecc2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-568f23d3d48e8ffb)
21:41:13	LambdaCalculus37	amiconn: Ahh, didn't know.
21:42:03	amiconn	"configure didn't find sdl-config, which indicates that you don't have SDL (properly) installed. Please correct and re-run configure!"
21:43:21	dreamlayers	Also uclpack not found on the Player build
21:45:02	amiconn	Weird, the tools should be built if they're missing...
21:47:38		Quit l403 (Connection timed out)
21:47:41		Join froggyman [0] (n=47ba40e2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c8ce4b6b5f41b23b)
21:47:59		Quit wincent (SendQ exceeded)
21:48:26		Quit __lifeless (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
21:48:31		Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@94.51.208.23)
21:52:37		Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B4755B.dip.t-dialin.net)
21:56:13	froggyman	why doesnt the themes work with the Rockbox Utility, because i though they were suppose to with themes.rockbox.org being availbile?
21:59:18		Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)")
21:59:28		Join wincent [0] (n=wincent@dyndsl-091-096-000-117.ewe-ip-backbone.de)
22:00
22:00:03		Join l403 [0] (n=l@85.132.159.239)
22:00:18	scorche	froggyman: the next release of rbutil should be able to handle things properly...something was changed and rbutil hasnt yet been updated to reflect that
22:01:43		Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@204.116.244.200)
22:03:13	froggyman	ok, thanks. hopefully it wll get released sometime soon!
22:06:23	scorche	for now, you can still manually install them from the themes site, of course
22:07:11		Quit evilnick_6 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
22:07:45	froggyman	yeah i knew that, its just that it takes less time with the Rutility
22:07:47	froggyman	thanks
22:09:32		Quit pixelma_ ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
22:11:00	*	rasher still has no idea why there
22:11:08	rasher	there hasn't been a bugfix release for rbutil
22:12:55	Strife89	What's the screenshot key for the sim?
22:13:45	rasher	F5
22:14:25	Strife89	Thanks. :)
22:14:28	Strife89	I've got a new theme almost ready.
22:14:43		Join efyx_ [0] (n=efyx@lap34-1-82-224-140-171.fbx.proxad.net)
22:15:20	froggyman	Strife89: what target?
22:15:25	Strife89	c200
22:15:52		Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel)
22:16:10	kugel	dreamlayers: ping
22:16:16		Quit lucent (Remote closed the connection)
22:17:00	dreamlayers	kugel: Yeah, I'm here
22:17:53	kugel	dreamlayers: re FS #8523, I was going to do the same, except putting it into a function
22:19:25		Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
22:21:34	dreamlayers	kugel: Can the patch be committed as-is?
22:22:08	kugel	dreamlayers: and re whether to open a new task or reopen: I can't remember we have a policy either, but I tend to prefer reopening (since it's likely the committer is still subscribed to that task and gets instant notification)
22:22:50		Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dtj230.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)
22:23:03	dreamlayers	kugel: Ok, thanks. It's good to see that you also feel my reasoning for re-opening made sense.
22:24:28	kugel	though, re-opening might go unnoticed, so if the committer didn't react a new task should be opened
22:25:46	*	JdGordon\| gets curious when tasks are reopened
22:25:48	Strife89	Screenshots on the forum, if anyone wants to look: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=21318.0
22:25:51		Quit bmbl ("Woah!")
22:26:30	JdGordon\|	looks like you need some new icons to go with that font :)
22:26:54	Strife89	Whoops, forgot the icons. >_<
22:27:02		Join cspotcode [0] (n=bradla@ninetails-63.dynamic.rpi.edu)
22:28:06	Strife89	Meh, I'll resize or find some new icons another time, I'm tired.
22:28:26	Strife89	The WPS is the main thing right now....
22:28:44	*	JdGordon\| would be embarrassed having a half done theme....
22:28:45	JdGordon\|	:D
22:29:13	Strife89	JdGordon\|: I haven't submitted it yet. ;)
22:29:19		Quit itcheg ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
22:30:04	***	Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
22:30:23	Strife89	JdGordon\|: If you want a test zip, I'll upload it (not to the theme site).
22:31:08	JdGordon\|	i dont have a c200
22:31:46		Quit MT (Remote closed the connection)
22:32:04		Join Ubuntuxer [0] (n=johannes@dslb-088-078-116-221.pools.arcor-ip.net)
22:33:54		Quit dreamlayers ("Back later")
22:34:25	kugel	Strife89: or implement bmp resize for icon sets ;)
22:34:50	Strife89	_Major_ resize. :)
22:35:01	froggyman	would it be possible to use the iPod's piezo speaker for the metronome?
22:36:11		Quit pixelma (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
22:36:11		Quit amiconn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
22:36:22		Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn)
22:36:26		Join pixelma [50] (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma)
22:40:11		Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb)
22:40:28	stripwax	froggyman - in theory, sure, although someone would need to implement that
22:41:25	froggyman	stripwax: ok
22:41:30	stripwax	Note that the piezo driver is not (yet) even in svn. (but see http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5111)
22:42:18		Join PrinceGITS [0] (n=52e0ede7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-20164b62bdce2b94)
22:42:45	PrinceGITS	Hi
22:43:50		Quit kushalone ("This computer has gone to sleep. Macs are like babies. They need a lot of sleep. :)")
22:43:56	bertrik	hi PrinceGITS
22:44:25	PrinceGITS	I have troubles with the Rockbox installer when i try to install themes.
22:45:06	PrinceGITS	I have an Unknown error.
22:45:15	froggyman	yeah, everyone does.... because it hasnt been updated yet
22:46:16	PrinceGITS	It has been a long long time since i updated Rockbox. I never used the installer before.
22:46:27	PrinceGITS	The last time it was manually. ;)
22:46:51	PrinceGITS	So i have to wait or install themes manually, old school style.
22:47:13	rasher	Huh, I wonder why it's giving "unknown error"
22:47:53	stripwax	PrinceGITS - manually installing themes should work still
22:48:13	PrinceGITS	Yeah i think so. Just want to try all the automatic installation.
22:49:52	froggyman	rasher: maybe its because it doesnt even know whats wrong, but i can confirm that i have gotten the same "unknown error"
22:50:41	rasher	froggyman: Thing is, we set up an error message that should explain the situation, but apparently it's not working
22:51:26	rasher	Ah, there we go \o/
22:51:35	rasher	froggyman: The error message should be more descriptive now
22:51:40		Join perrikwp [0] (i=9821373a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f18bcb87f61222d4)
22:52:36	PrinceGITS	The message is much more descriptive now ! :)
22:52:46	rasher	Sorry about that.
22:52:47	PrinceGITS	Maybe too. ;)
22:53:00	rasher	I really don't understand the lack of rbutil release though
22:53:12	rasher	As far as I know, it's been fixed in SVN for weeks
22:53:29	saratoga_work22	isn't it hard to build rbutil or something?
22:53:55	rasher	Not really
22:53:56	froggyman	rasher: yep it is
22:56:25	saratoga_work22	could we auto build it like we do target builds then?
22:57:37	rasher	Building a static qt is a bit of a chore
22:57:50	rasher	I'm not sure we'd want to anyway
22:58:09	rasher	For the same reason we don't have autobuilt bootloaders
23:00
23:00:51		Quit stripwax ("http://miranda-im.org")
23:01:39		Quit KBH ()
23:01:42	rasher	domonoky: Why hasn't there been a rbutil release?
23:01:44		Quit JdGordon\| ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
23:01:52		Join JdGordon\| [0] (i=836b0071@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2f426130b0f943e8)
23:02:37		Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")
23:03:18	domonoky	rasher: as always, lack of time.
23:03:27	rasher	Time for what?
23:03:38	domonoky	to create the new release.
23:04:01		Join trisiak [0] (n=tree@chello089078243195.chello.pl)
23:04:09	rasher	I don't understand.. isn't it just a matter of tagging and building?
23:06:20	domonoky	yes, tagging, versioning and building for all 3 plattforms is what is neccessary.
23:06:36		Part Ubuntuxer
23:08:30		Join hillshum [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-241-119.slkc.qwest.net)
23:09:07	hillshum	It was decided rbutil isn't to be in the distros right?
23:11:06		Quit miepchen^schlaf ()
23:11:56	rasher	No.
23:12:03		Join dreamlayers [0] (n=dreamlay@bas4-windsor12-1279315722.dsl.bell.ca)
23:12:14	rasher	I'm certainly not aware of any such decision
23:12:42		Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepel@p579EC7CB.dip.t-dialin.net)
23:13:00		Join miepchen^schla [0] (n=miepel@p579EC7CB.dip.t-dialin.net)
23:13:31		Quit SirFunk_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
23:13:55	PrinceGITS	Okay, installing the themes manually wokrs fine (except Izarc taht doesn't like directory name with . ).
23:14:17	PrinceGITS	I alos came to tell devs that rbutil works fine on my Vista 64 bits.
23:14:28	linuxstb	PrinceGITS: Then don't use Izarc...
23:14:28		Join SirFunk_ [0] (n=Sir@208-15-25-145.netsync.net)
23:15:08	PrinceGITS	Yeah, i have to change it. But i never take time for it. ;)
23:16:04	PrinceGITS	Anyway, thanks everyone for your help ! Rockbox is really usefull for my old Iriver H340.
23:17:10	PrinceGITS	Have a nice day or night. Bye
23:17:21		Join perrikwp [0] (i=18ac0c41@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-74c8618e52a125d1)
23:17:57		Quit froggyman ("CGI:IRC (EOF)")
23:18:24		Quit PrinceGITS ("CGI:IRC")
23:18:26	rasher	So apparently there's time to work on rbutil code, but not on releasing it...
23:19:29		Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p4FC62D1C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
23:19:51		Join Keripo1 [0] (n=Keripo@eng044.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu)
23:20:59		Quit Zoxc ()
23:23:50	dreamlayers	I was curious how much V2 Recorder binary size would increase when I moved the some code into its own function. It didn't increase. Apparently, gcc is smart enough to inline a static function which is called in only one spot.
23:25:00	Bagder	GodEater: around?
23:25:21	hillshum	Would making rbutil refuse to complete/minimal install a sansa/iPod (because it doesn't work) be a good idea
23:25:24	hillshum	?
23:26:52	linuxstb	hillshum: I thought that was fixed?
23:27:07	hillshum	the wiki needs to be changed then?
23:28:19	hillshum	It says than is an issue in 1.2, the update list doesn't include a fix
23:28:36	hillshum	s/than/there
23:29:40	linuxstb	I don't mean in 1.2, I mean in SVN. But checking the logs, it doesn't seem to be, although I think bluebrother posted a patch.
23:29:47		Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
23:29:56		Quit ender` (" The latest survey shows that 3 out of 4 people make up 75% of the world's population.")
23:30:09	hillshum	I thought it was changed too
23:30:19		Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
23:30:21	*	Bagder disables sdl on godeater's box for now
23:31:13	linuxstb	hillshum: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10100 if you can test...
23:31:46	hillshum	linuxstb: building QT's a pain right?
23:32:06	linuxstb	I don't recall having problems.
23:32:32	*	hillshum might when he gets a chance
23:33:14	linuxstb	But to test that patch, I don't think you need to build Qt yourself, just install it (and the headers).
23:34:52	hillshum	okay, though I might help build for release
23:36:08	*	Strife89 posts a final draft of Tabbed. http://drop.io/pesub1l
23:37:45	hillshum	could the binary be copied over first?
23:39:48		Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org)
23:41:49	linuxstb	hillshum: That's how I would have done it... And that's what manual install instructions say to do. But I believe bluebrother has fixed it.
23:43:00	hillshum	I don't have a mac though
23:43:25	linuxstb	Then it's not an issue for you...
23:44:51	hillshum	not directly
23:46:18		Quit dreamlayers (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
23:46:39		Quit BXCracer (Remote closed the connection)
23:53:51		Join itcheg [0] (i=62db4767@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ae5321820e7db543)
23:57:16		Quit hillshum ("Leaving")
23:57:18		Join Strife1989 [0] (n=michael@204.116.244.200)
23:57:39		Quit Strife89 (Nick collision from services.)
23:58:21		Nick Strife1989 is now known as Strife89 (n=michael@204.116.244.200)

Previous day | Next day