| 00:07:34 | loyx | weird.. i don't think my rockbox even compiled with power-ipod.c |
| 00:07:38 | loyx | its not there |
| 00:08:52 | scorche|sh | huh?...define "there" |
| 00:09:35 | Mikachu | power-ipod.c has been in the tree since 2006 |
| 00:10:00 | scorche|sh | and you arent going to be compiling without it... |
| 00:10:08 | Mikachu | and i have a power-ipod.o in my build dir |
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| 00:11:08 | loyx | its not in /rockbox/firmware/target/arm/ipod |
| 00:11:12 | loyx | i mean |
| 00:11:24 | loyx | i used that configure tool and i chose ipod G4.. maybe thats why? |
| 00:11:56 | loyx | oh nvm.. found it |
| 00:11:59 | loyx | sorry hahah |
| 00:12:33 | scorche|sh | ... |
| 00:13:40 | loyx | we make mistakes sometimes :/ |
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| 00:23:32 | funman | bertrik: the sansav2 OF doesn't use synchronisation logic. Also I think APB and AHB use the same clock source ? |
| 00:27:56 | loyx | hey look at that.. i think the patch worked! |
| 00:28:21 | loyx | the percentage went up.. however the battery in my ipod is a little wonky, so i'll test it a few times to make sure |
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| 00:34:55 | loyx | nvm.. i dont think it did.. damn :( |
| 00:35:58 | loyx | well.. is there a way to get the ipod to reboot into disk mode when something is plugged into it? |
| 00:37:31 | funman | logf of the clip playback buf: http://pastie.org/511927 . I used the hints from matsch on the forum to reduce audiobuffer size, and started an album from database after booting the clip : status remained on play, but timebar didn't progress |
| 00:37:42 | funman | clip playback bug* |
| 00:38:14 | linuxstb | loyx: Only by editing the source code to disable Rockbox's USB stack |
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| 00:38:56 | funman | i think it's rather leave USB stack enabled, but don't use rockbox usb |
| 00:39:19 | loyx | how would i go about doing that? |
| 00:39:32 | linuxstb | Do you know how to compile Rockbox yourself? |
| 00:39:54 | loyx | yep i can do that no problem |
| 00:40:02 | loyx | i'm just not sure where in the source to edit that stuff |
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| 00:40:12 | funman | firmware/export/config-XXX.h |
| 00:40:22 | linuxstb | I _think_ you ned to comment out the line #define USE_ROCKBOX_USB in the file funman just said... |
| 00:40:30 | linuxstb | s/ned/need/ |
| 00:40:41 | loyx | ah ok |
| 00:40:46 | funman | that's it, see try_reboot() in firmware/usb.c |
| 00:40:58 | loyx | ok cool, thanks |
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| 00:44:50 | funman | comments explaining what the numerous functions in playback.c would be welcome ^^ |
| 00:44:58 | funman | + do |
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| 01:54:55 | saratoga | EOB in huffman decoding == end of block? I suppose thats the transform block or does it have another meaning in coding? |
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| 02:17:50 | saratoga | is it possible for a plulgin to disable the backlight time out? |
| 02:18:41 | krazykit | mpegplayer disables it, doesn't it? |
| 02:18:50 | Mikachu | yes |
| 02:18:54 | Mikachu | there's a pluginlib helper for it |
| 02:20:11 | saratoga | will buttonlight_on force it to stay on or do I need to increase the timeout and then put it back when i exit? |
| 02:20:27 | Unhelpful | saratoga: codewords don't have special meanings in general huffman coding to my knowledge. that's probably end of transform block... jpeg has a code for this as well. :) |
| 02:21:24 | Mikachu | saratoga: basically look in any plugin :) |
| 02:22:12 | Mikachu | saratoga: when you exit, call backlight_use_settings(); |
| 02:23:19 | pixelma | saratoga: the lamp plugin disables the timeout even for the buttonlights (except when you turned those off), maybe you'll find something there |
| 02:26:15 | saratoga | ah so backlight_force_on() and backlight_use_settings() |
| 02:26:40 | saratoga | i'll try and remember to add these to test codec so that the backlight fadeouts don't skew codec run times |
| 02:33:23 | saratoga | teru just dumped another pile of plugin fixes onto the tracker |
| 02:33:40 | saratoga | maybe we could give him SVN access just so I don't have to dig through them all to get them commited |
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| 02:36:47 | kugel | saratoga: where? |
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| 02:45:04 | Unhelpful | saratoga: have any needed significant massaging to work / be correct? :) |
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| 03:57:12 | safetydan | interesting, seems playback is dropping samples at the end of the playlist |
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| 07:17:57 | CIA-37 | New commit by kugel (r21286): FS #10327: Patch by Frederick Full to fix the scrollwheel and default ... |
| 07:21:09 | r0b- | kugel is that even worth updating rockbox for? |
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| 07:38:13 | animatorgeek | I'm having trouble compiling for h120 with the current SVN |
| 07:38:46 | animatorgeek | Someone made some changes to rockboy that seems to expect a scrollwheel |
| 07:39:17 | animatorgeek | Anyone kno if the build is working on the build server at the moment? |
| 07:39:39 | animatorgeek | And is this the sort of thing I should mention on the mailing list (sorry, I'm kinda new to Rockbox development) |
| 07:41:25 | animatorgeek | BTW, the compile error is in apps/plugins/rockboy/sys_rockbox.c, line 75 |
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| 07:46:47 | safetydan | animatorgeek: there was just a commit to svn that affected rockboy controls, maybe that broke the build for h120 |
| 07:47:18 | safetydan | yup, broken |
| 07:47:18 | safetydan | http://build.rockbox.org/showlog.cgi?date=20090615T051820Z&type=iriver%20H120%20-%20Normal#prob1 |
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| 07:48:15 | animatorgeek | up, that's the one |
| 07:48:22 | animatorgeek | yup, I mean |
| 07:48:38 | animatorgeek | I'm sure it just needs a conditional compile to clear it up. |
| 07:49:22 | animatorgeek | I assume someone's likely to get on that soonish. I need to go to bed now. |
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| 07:55:18 | saratoga | that red looks like a simple typo, so i'll just fix it now |
| 07:56:51 | CIA-37 | New commit by saratoga (r21287): Fix red. |
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| 08:14:10 | lazyguy | can someone help me with my rockbox problem |
| 08:14:24 | cool_walking_ | only if you say what it is |
| 08:14:41 | lazyguy | i have the sansa c250 |
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| 08:15:08 | lazyguy | and it's not reading off my microsdhc |
| 08:15:11 | lazyguy | 8gb |
| 08:15:31 | lazyguy | but, if i plug it in my computer can read it off the mp3 player |
| 08:16:22 | lazyguy | running on one of the builds that gives usb support while the c250 is plugged in usb |
| 08:17:53 | cool_walking_ | SansaFAQ wiki page says "try formatting it". |
| 08:18:31 | pixelma | wait |
| 08:19:11 | pixelma | lazyguy: how are you connecting your c200 (does the player start in the OF)? |
| 08:20:35 | lazyguy | dont know what OF means |
| 08:20:46 | lazyguy | but, i formated the sd card in ntfs |
| 08:21:04 | lazyguy | this dunno if that could be the problem |
| 08:21:14 | pixelma | original firmware... that won't work |
| 08:21:35 | lazyguy | i dont think i would because i'm plugging in the computer and it reads fine |
| 08:21:35 | cool_walking_ | Rockbox needs FAT, not NTFS. |
| 08:21:52 | lazyguy | not even fat32 |
| 08:22:30 | JdGordon | fat32 is fine |
| 08:23:35 | lazyguy | weird, why can it read it while plugged in usb |
| 08:23:57 | Llorean | Because that's not Rockbox reading it. |
| 08:24:02 | cool_walking_ | Because the Windows/Mac is reading the filesystem, not Rockbox. |
| 08:27:07 | lazyguy | is 8gb currently the max rockbox will read |
| 08:28:53 | Llorean | Rockbox supports SDHC, which means all the sizes allows by SDHC |
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| 08:53:15 | lazyguy | it's still not reading |
| 08:53:54 | lazyguy | (+ ???) |
| 08:55:35 | lazyguy | wait, removing and inserting multiple times did the trick |
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| 10:34:55 | rasher | checkwps appears to be broken. Happened on either 2009-05-13 or 2009-04-26 |
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| 10:43:54 | rasher | warning: "htole16" redefined and other stuff as well. I'm without clue here |
| 10:45:13 | pixelma | hmm... I think there was a thread in the dev ml with the same or similar error message when compiling ipodpatcher |
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| 10:50:59 | linuxstb | rasher: Yes, that sounds like the same issue. I think I prefer the solution of renaming those functions, but I'm not sure what to... |
| 10:52:12 | linuxstb | rasher: Hmm, I've just tried checkwps, and the problem is in generic Rockbox code, rather than checkwps, so it's slightly different... |
| 10:52:21 | * | linuxstb wonders why that doesn't affect the sim |
| 10:53:18 | linuxstb | Ah, it seems the sim undefs those symbols based on #ifdef SIMULATOR |
| 10:54:44 | rasher | So doing the same for PCTOOL (that's what's used, isn't it?) would do it? |
| 10:56:10 | linuxstb | Yes, but I don't like that fix in system.h (it was from FS #9717). The issue is that newer versions of glibc define those functions (as macros), which clash with Rockbox's (and ipodpatcher's) versions. |
| 10:56:51 | linuxstb | So today they are macros, but they could be functions in some implementations. Although maybe we shouldn't try and fix problems that don't exist yet, and just keep it... |
| 10:57:08 | linuxstb | (and do the same for ipodpatcher) |
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| 11:06:43 | funman | hi, linuxstb perhaps we could check if checkwps/ipodpatcher build with -ansi, so no extra functions would be declared or defined as macros |
| 11:07:47 | funman | htole* aren't define dif __STRICT_ANSI__ is defined, or _ISOC99_SOURCE. I believe the first one is defined by gcc if -ansi is used, not sure about the 2nd .. |
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| 11:09:52 | GodEater | well that was an easy check. ipodpatcher doesn't build with -ansi ;) |
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| 11:19:04 | linuxstb | GodEater: Does it complain about S_IREAD etc? I had that problem when trying different flags. It's fixable though... |
| 11:19:21 | GodEater | yep, that's the first noticeable complain |
| 11:19:29 | GodEater | and I'm sure it's fixable |
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| 12:08:26 | pondlife | JdGordon: Please could you look at FS #10336 some time? |
| 12:08:28 | pixelma | pondlife: since it seems you have a bit time to code ;) Reading the logs I found that Llorean said the timestretch feature is causing problems in mpegplayer |
| 12:08:51 | pondlife | pixelma: I put a patch up which might fix that |
| 12:09:02 | pondlife | Not tested it though |
| 12:10:16 | pondlife | Does it happen on a sim? |
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| 12:32:00 | * | pondlife wonders if anyone could test the mpegplayer fix, or if he should just commit it anyway... ;) |
| 12:32:48 | pondlife | It's at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10331 - FWIW |
| 12:33:08 | gevaerts | pondlife: if you're confident that the fix is correct as such, I'd commit it, whether or not it actually fixes this particular symptom |
| 12:33:55 | pondlife | I think it's an improvement, but woudl rather have it tested so I could comment "Fixes FS #10331" . |
| 12:34:32 | pondlife | Just a confirmation would be good if anyone has a target around |
| 12:35:14 | gevaerts | I'd test, but I don't have any video files on my gigabeat and I don't have the proper cable with me... |
| 12:37:49 | pixelma | ok, going to test (c200 for now) but it'll take a bit |
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| 12:38:58 | pixelma | is the "Citx-Music" in the Gent.fmr in the wiki a typo? I assume it should read "City-Music"... |
| 12:40:38 | funman | hey i just received a sansa c200v2 |
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| 13:00:23 | pixelma | pondlife: had to try out a way to reproduce first as it doesn't crash with voice enabled... currently building with the fix |
| 13:00:44 | pondlife | Ah, that's interesting to know... |
| 13:00:50 | pondlife | The fix may not work then |
| 13:01:11 | pondlife | I have voice enabled, will disable and try again on the sim. |
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| 13:08:28 | pondlife | pixelma: OK, that's NOT the fix |
| 13:09:36 | pixelma | alright, was just about to try it... |
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| 13:22:07 | CIA-37 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r21288): Onda VX747: clean up SD GPIO initialization |
| 13:33:50 | funman | I can't connect the c200v2 again to the laptop, even using http://kb-fr.sandisk.com/cgi-bin/sandisk_fr.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=61&p_sid=idyYNpAj&p_lva=207 instructions and different USB ports .. I could update the firmware once without using special key combinations so it defaulted to MSC .. |
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| 13:43:19 | funman | does c200v1 OF/rockbox expose the µSD slot over USB ? |
| 13:43:46 | pixelma | yes |
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| 13:45:24 | pixelma | but it doesn't support SDHC, never tried what happens with a microSDHC in it as it's already annoying if you forgot and it tries to scan the card at startup, taking ages before it gives up |
| 13:45:59 | pixelma | I mean I never tried what happens if you then connect to USB |
| 13:49:00 | funman | I can now connect it if I use the Sandisk instructions while the c200v2 is powered |
| 13:52:05 | pixelma | the failed attempts were not with a microSD card plugged by any chance? As I saw on mine that if I had a card plugged and then connected USB, the OF just went into charging and didn't establish the data connection? |
| 13:52:27 | pixelma | c200v1 of course, but maybe they didn't fix this |
| 13:52:43 | funman | it failed with both, but now i can plug it with no card inserted |
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| 14:27:31 | funman | backlight circuit should be dependant from LCD data connection ? |
| 14:27:37 | funman | independant* |
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| 14:42:48 | funman | i mean is there lcd controllers with integrated backlight control ? |
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| 15:08:48 | mcuelenaere | Is /.rockbox/icons/tango_small_viewers.bmp present in every Rockbox install? |
| 15:11:28 | evilnick | I think that's referenced by the default theme (CabbieV2) so I |
| 15:11:35 | evilnick | 'd hazard "yes" |
| 15:12:56 | CIA-37 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r21289): Add helloworld Lua script |
| 15:13:33 | mcuelenaere | k |
| 15:15:02 | linuxstb | Even the Player? |
| 15:16:10 | evilnick | Well, charcell targets probably not. |
| 15:16:19 | linuxstb | mcuelenaere: How have you dealt with different target features in lua? i.e. the stuff that's handled by #ifdefs normally? Or does it not work at that low a level? |
| 15:18:08 | mcuelenaere | linuxstb: most stuff is #ifdef'ed so the appropriate functions aren't available on targets that don't support them, but that's not a big help to Lua scripting users.. |
| 15:18:41 | mcuelenaere | also, Lua requires a certain PLUGIN_SIZE, so some targets are automatically excluded by that |
| 15:19:14 | mcuelenaere | I've currently only tested this on color targets (don't have any others), I should probably also test this this on grayscale targets |
| 15:19:26 | mcuelenaere | s/grayscale targets/grayscale sims/ |
| 15:28:57 | mcuelenaere | hmm are there charcell targets (or other non-framebuffer targets) with PLUGIN_BUFFER_SIZE >= 0x80000 ? |
| 15:29:17 | linuxstb | No, there's just one charcell target. |
| 15:30:06 | CIA-37 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r21290): Fix helloworld.lua on grayscale targets |
| 15:31:04 | linuxstb | Do functions need to exist at "compile-time" for lua, or only when they are called? |
| 15:32:13 | kugel | what functions? it's a scripting language, so everything works at runtime. except for the api functions of course |
| 15:33:06 | mcuelenaere | linuxstb: kugel is right, AFAIK functions are only checked at runtime if they exist |
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| 15:33:25 | mcuelenaere | the same applies for (global) variables etc |
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| 15:34:34 | pixelma | monochrome screeens use the builtin icons, not tango-small (at least on the bitmap Archoses) |
| 15:36:10 | mcuelenaere | pixelma: which Archos's are bitmap? |
| 15:36:19 | pixelma | if that has to do with liua - it's not important for the Archoses but maybe it's worth checking what th M:Robe100 does |
| 15:36:35 | pixelma | I meant lua |
| 15:36:44 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: all expect the Player |
| 15:36:54 | pixelma | except ;) |
| 15:37:08 | mcuelenaere | I'll try the m:robe 100 |
| 15:37:12 | * | gevaerts wants to know how he managed that one |
| 15:37:38 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: ? |
| 15:37:51 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: see pixelma's correction |
| 15:38:11 | gevaerts | i.e. all except the Player |
| 15:38:29 | mcuelenaere | :) |
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| 15:46:12 | CIA-37 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r21291): Fix helloworld.lua for mono targets (+ add lcd_mono_bitmap() & lcd_mono_bitmap_part() to Lua API) |
| 15:46:31 | Horscht | hello there |
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| 15:52:41 | Horscht | I installed r21285 yesterday and I am experiencing a few problems (i think i was running 21184 before). One issue is regarding (jpeg) album art, which appears garbled on the screen when the ipod is accessing the disk while trying to display the image (i.e. buffering), the other is regarding charging with my alarm clock (i.e. not via USB but accessory charger) |
| 15:54:46 | Horscht | as for the first issue: since I am currently at work, I can not test any bmp coverart, if it suffers from the same issue. But the Image is garbled, shifted and has wrong colors all over it. This only seems to happen while the Ipod is buffering music, if the disk is not active, jpeg album art displays fine. I will be able to test .bmp in a few hours, though. |
| 15:54:49 | GodEater | Horscht: have you tried moving to 21290 yet ? |
| 15:55:01 | Horscht | at that point i can create a flyspray entry |
| 15:55:11 | Horscht | currently not as I am at work |
| 15:55:24 | GodEater | cos you know we'll just shoot you for raising bugs against the non-current svn ;) |
| 15:56:03 | Horscht | well, I figured 21285 would be recent enough ;) |
| 15:56:18 | Horscht | oh god, mibbit has these annoying image emoticons |
| 15:57:04 | GodEater | it's never recent enough unless it's current |
| 15:58:20 | Horscht | ok then. Just a few hours until I get home then. then I can compile |
| 15:58:22 | CIA-37 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r21292): Fix yellow |
| 15:59:00 | GodEater | compile ? |
| 15:59:03 | GodEater | you could just download it |
| 15:59:42 | Horscht | does it realy automaticaly build after every commit? |
| 15:59:53 | GodEater | yes |
| 15:59:55 | linuxstb | No, we lie to you... |
| 15:59:59 | GodEater | good lord |
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| 16:00:01 | Horscht | Anyways, I don't have my data cable with me |
| 16:00:09 | GodEater | why on earth would we say such a thing if it weren't true ? |
| 16:00:11 | linuxstb | GodEater: Sorry... |
| 16:00:25 | GodEater | linuxstb: ;) |
| 16:00:30 | Horscht | no need to call me good lord |
| 16:00:35 | Horscht | I listen to Horscht as well ;) |
| 16:00:40 | GodEater | :P |
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| 16:30:08 | Kohlrabi | funman: I tried to patch the bootloader with the clipv2 patch, but I get some warnings/errors |
| 16:30:26 | Kohlrabi | patching file apps/plugins/plugin.lds |
| 16:30:27 | Kohlrabi | Hunk #1 FAILED at 42. |
| 16:30:27 | Kohlrabi | Hunk #2 FAILED at 95. |
| 16:30:30 | Kohlrabi | for example |
| 16:30:37 | funman | Kohlrabi: the patch is out of date and need to be resynchronised to current svn |
| 16:30:49 | Kohlrabi | thought so :) |
| 16:31:04 | Kohlrabi | Will it be incorporated into trunk, maybe? |
| 16:31:26 | funman | yep i plan to do that, but i'll probably wait until i can get access to storage |
| 16:31:40 | Kohlrabi | ok, I can wait |
| 16:32:03 | Kohlrabi | I have to ;) |
| 16:33:36 | FlynDice | Is mpegplayer broken and if so does anyone know which revision broke it? |
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| 16:36:06 | mc2739 | FlynDice: yes, see FS #10331 |
| 16:36:13 | FlynDice | thanks |
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| 16:38:13 | pondlife | I've got a fix for mpegplayer, I think |
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| 16:42:14 | FlynDice | pondlife: a new one since yesterday? |
| 16:42:25 | pondlife | Yes, just testing now |
| 16:44:08 | JdGordon | pondlife: hey, sdoyon is the better person to look at that patch.. but yeah ill give it a once over tonight if i get a chnce |
| 16:44:41 | pondlife | I was more concerned about breaking some list functionality at the moment |
| 16:45:38 | kugel | JdGordon: sadly, sdoyon doesn't seem to be interested enough anymore to even post his patches himself |
| 16:45:58 | kugel | not to mention that he has commit access and could do it properly and in SVN |
| 16:47:12 | kugel | pondlife: seems like mp3 or dsp changes in general tend to break mpegplayer easily |
| 16:47:14 | funman | i have backlight control on c200v2, but still have to figure lcd functions |
| 16:47:36 | pondlife | FlynDice, kugel: Possible fix for mpegplayer in http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10331 now. |
| 16:47:54 | kugel | funman: bertrik already had a look at it |
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| 16:48:24 | funman | yeah i understood that |
| 16:48:50 | funman | he said the registers used were the same than on c200v1, but i don't know if he found how to transfer pixels |
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| 16:55:22 | linuxstb | funman: I looked at the c200 OF a while ago, and found what looked like the lcd functions. Do you want a copy of my annotated disassembly? |
| 16:55:58 | FlynDice | pondlife: works fine here on e280v2 |
| 16:56:17 | pondlife | OK, but does timestretch still work? |
| 16:56:29 | pondlife | I fear it might Data Abort... |
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| 16:56:47 | FlynDice | well don't know if i've ever tried that, hold on a sec |
| 16:56:53 | pondlife | Thanks |
| 16:56:59 | pondlife | If it's good, I'll commit |
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| 16:58:11 | FlynDice | how do I use timestretch? |
| 16:58:25 | pondlife | Enable it under Sound Settings, then reboot. |
| 16:58:35 | pondlife | It needs to allocate memory at startup |
| 16:59:41 | funman | linuxstb: yes it could help, i found some lcd functions near the lcd_init function, but i'm a bit lost because I only see 2 differents function which write commands |
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| 17:00:19 | FlynDice | pondlife: ok I enabled it now what do I need to do? |
| 17:00:29 | pondlife | Go into the pitch screen |
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| 17:00:51 | pondlife | Press the mode button a couple of times until you see speed mentioned |
| 17:01:04 | pondlife | (Not sure what button that is on e200v2, sorry..) |
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| 17:03:55 | evilnick | Probably Rec if it's the same as the E200v1 |
| 17:05:01 | FlynDice | well I can get to the pitch screen from the context menuof a music file but that does not seem to carry over to the video. Still trying |
| 17:05:13 | pondlife | Ah, no |
| 17:05:25 | pondlife | You can't use it with video, I meant with music |
| 17:06:11 | FlynDice | Oh, in that case it works fine... |
| 17:06:25 | pondlife | No Data Abort when you slow down? |
| 17:06:39 | FlynDice | nope, not yet at least |
| 17:06:44 | pondlife | Good |
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| 17:07:11 | FlynDice | wow amy winehouse on steroids... |
| 17:07:41 | pondlife | Yep - you too can have Amy Winemouse |
| 17:13:45 | * | gevaerts would expect "on steroids" to mean a *lower* pitch |
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| 17:15:26 | evilnick | This timestretch works really nicely on the E200 series, but can anyone let me know where to find the keymappings for Set point A (or B) in Repeat A-B mode? I couldn't find them in the manual very easily. |
| 17:19:23 | GodEater | another feature I never use |
| 17:19:26 | GodEater | so no :) |
| 17:21:16 | pixelma | the manual knows |
| 17:21:29 | evilnick | Hmmmm, it appears that the html version of the manual doesn't use opening/closing inverted commas, just opening inverted commas. |
| 17:21:48 | evilnick | pixelma: Which section is that in? I've been looking through it for a while |
| 17:22:00 | pixelma | Playback Settings > Repeat |
| 17:22:16 | pixelma | I searched the PDF for "repeat" |
| 17:23:17 | * | LambdaCalculus37 gets out his iPod video to update it and try timestretch again |
| 17:25:10 | pondlife | gevaerts: Yes, steroids=lower, mouse=higher... |
| 17:25:31 | pondlife | Anyway, I'll let others test - no time to commit that right now. |
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| 17:25:52 | pixelma | evilnick: maybe it could be in the "WPS key controls" table too, would you have expected it there? |
| 17:26:03 | pondlife | Although I did manage to lock mpegplayer by using timestretch first, then playing video... |
| 17:26:07 | evilnick | pixelma: Ah, I didn't think to try that, I was looking through all the html pages trying to find it. I think that the controls should also be added to 4.3.1. WPS Key Controls |
| 17:26:19 | evilnick | pixelma: Good thinking :) |
| 17:26:37 | pixelma | cheers... patches welcome ;) |
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| 17:30:09 | pixelma | evilnick: but it's a bit weird for those target which use a different input style for A-B repeat (due to lack of buttons, e.g. the Iaudios) where you enable A-B repeat than set point A, then point B, third press resets the markers - all with the same button. |
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| 17:30:39 | FlynDice | pondlife: timestretch and then mpegplayer caused no lockups for me, tried several times looking for "stretch" for video.... |
| 17:31:30 | funman_ | in fact i think the functions are right (similar to what the fuze uses) but perhaps the delays are wrong .. |
| 17:33:53 | evilnick | pixelma: It would be a little weird in the contexts of the manuals as a whole, but it'd also be useful to have ALL the keys that affect the WPS in the WPS keymapping section. |
| 17:34:54 | pixelma | just had an idea for those - mention the additional function of "set repeat A-B markers" and link to the repeat chapter for further explanation. I just think that the complete explanation would be too long in the button table |
| 17:36:28 | pixelma | I'll note it down as something to do (for me) for DevCon, there's also some smallish cleanup bit that's in the button table that I have in my tree for a long time... |
| 17:37:06 | pixelma | in the WPS button table, I mean |
| 17:37:27 | evilnick | That would work too. It seems strange to have all the keys there except for the ones I was looking for! Good idea, as that list is already quite imposing to the newbie user. |
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| 17:41:07 | evilnick | Is there a way (in TeX) to differentiate between opening quotation marks and closing quotation marks? The Licenses chapter is full of [opening quotation mark] Content of quotation [opening quotation mark] |
| 17:42:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | evilnick: `` and '' (that's two single quotes!). |
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| 17:43:44 | evilnick | LambdaCalculus37: It might just be that the GNU 1.2 license doesn't differentiate; but as it wouldn't be changing anything other than typography, would we be okay to alter those in that section? |
| 17:46:12 | CIA-37 | New commit by pondlife (r21293): Fix FS #10331 and get mpegplayer working again. |
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| 17:47:43 | LambdaCalculus37 | evilnick: If it's to fix an error, I don't see an issue with it. But best to get a second opinion. |
| 17:49:32 | evilnick | Is there anyone in particular that I should ask about this? |
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| 17:50:48 | * | JdGordon| looks at the chan topic and winges about lack of ops again |
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| 17:51:12 | funman_ | hum dbop_dout register is 32 bits but we (i) declared it as short |
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| 17:53:08 | * | gevaerts sees JdGordon|'s complaint and edits DevConEuro2009 |
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| 17:54:52 | JdGordon| | punch scorche in the gut for me if he complains that it will bring less concsistancy to the channel; |
| 17:54:54 | JdGordon| | :) |
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| 17:59:16 | pondlife | Oops, yellow |
| 17:59:35 | JdGordon| | naughty naughty :) |
| 17:59:43 | pondlife | Better than red ;) |
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| 18:00:19 | pondlife | Bah, sucky (void) missing |
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| 18:01:18 | CIA-37 | New commit by pondlife (r21294): Fixify that yellow. |
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| 18:01:58 | pondlife | Doh - missed a bit |
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| 18:03:03 | CIA-37 | New commit by pondlife (r21295): ...and fixify *that* yellow too. |
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| 18:10:50 | funman | bertrik: can you have a look at my c200v2 diff http://pastie.org/512671 ? especially lcd-c200v2.c (copied from lcd-c200.c) |
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| 18:20:03 | obo | linuxstb: could I grab a copy of that c200 disassembly? It would be good to see annotated lcd functions. |
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| 18:23:39 | funman | obo: http://pastie.org/512689 |
| 18:24:11 | obo | thanks |
| 18:24:30 | funman | look at lcd_init (from line 469) |
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| 18:32:05 | bertrik | ah cool, you're looking at the c200v2 lcd code? |
| 18:32:35 | bertrik | I found it's very similar to the c200v1 code, except now it's using DBOP |
| 18:32:55 | bertrik | I could find the init code, but strange enough I could not spot anything like lcd_update |
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| 18:35:55 | snill | hi, i have a problem flashing a sandisk sansa e270 |
| 18:36:09 | snill | i put it into msc mode and then connect it to my linux machine |
| 18:36:22 | snill | but it directly says disconnected on the player display |
| 18:37:03 | bertrik | hm, could this be the "gphoto" problem? |
| 18:39:27 | snill | thats all it says before saying disconnected http://paste.pocoo.org/show/123298/ |
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| 18:39:40 | snill | where can i find information about the gphoto problem? |
| 18:40:01 | snill | if i put it into mtp mode it is loaded via gphoto |
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| 18:40:25 | leachim6 | hey |
| 18:40:36 | leachim6 | is there a way to convert playlists from the Apple OS to work in rockbox ? |
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| 18:43:17 | bertrik | snill, I don't remember the exact details |
| 18:44:08 | snill | ok |
| 18:44:19 | bertrik | as far as I understand gphoto supplies scripts that start on plugin of certain devices |
| 18:44:47 | bertrik | it could be that it activates the MTP interface, making the MSC interface unusable |
| 18:45:06 | snill | then i will try killing gphoto and then plugging it in again |
| 18:45:10 | snill | thanks for the hint |
| 18:46:55 | snill | perfect, i killed the gvfs gphoto stuff, plugged it in again and boom the rockbox installer detects the player |
| 18:46:57 | bertrik | I disabled two entries for my sansa in /usr/share/hal/fdi/preprobe/10osvendor/20-libgphoto2.fdi |
| 18:47:00 | snill | thank you very much |
| 18:47:38 | snill | ok, i just used the quick and dirty method by killing it |
| 18:48:24 | funman | bertrik: same, i only found lcd_window_{x,y} |
| 18:48:36 | funman | and they are referenced once, in the hardware init |
| 18:51:27 | bertrik | funman, I want to look into the problem that playback sometimes stops spontaneously on my clip |
| 18:51:51 | bertrik | I noticed your comment about dma synchronisation logic, I enabled it again but see no improvement |
| 18:52:12 | funman | bertrik: i have some info: it seems that the same bug happens on m200v4 (2MB), and if i can make c200v2 lcd work i can test on this one (2MB also) |
| 18:52:32 | bertrik | actually, there may be improvement, but the problem is not so reproducible to see if it really helped |
| 18:52:34 | funman | yesterday i posted a logf dump, but reading playback.c is difficult so i didn't analyze the output |
| 18:52:50 | funman | did you try matsch trick to reduce audio buffer size ? |
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| 18:53:06 | bertrik | I can usually restart playback by explicitly stopping and starting playback (pause/unpause is not enough) |
| 18:53:12 | funman | same |
| 18:53:15 | bertrik | funman, no |
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| 18:55:36 | funman | this trick (incrasing system limits for playlist) actually made my clip bug less on one particular album :o |
| 18:56:04 | bertrik | and when it restarts, it always starts at the beginning of a song, while a normal stop / restart continues from the same location |
| 18:56:57 | bertrik | also I noticed that the codec task stack usage is at 92% which seems a bit high, but it's also 92% for my e200 :? |
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| 18:59:07 | funman | but then for other files, playback stopped before it had even started, so the song remained at 0:0 |
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| 19:00:49 | funman | i think the codec stack size is calculated with special care |
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| 19:09:45 | bertrik | funman, well at least nice to know it also happens on another target, that may help find the cause |
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| 19:16:52 | funman | bertrik: i suppose small audio buffer, perhaps using logf in files touching this buffer would help |
| 19:17:31 | funman | had you noticed that there is 2 functions to send command with dbop in the c200v2 OF ? |
| 19:17:47 | bertrik | yeah I wonder if this is some issue that is detected internally already, or if it is more of a "crash" type bug |
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| 19:18:05 | bertrik | funman, ehm, I think I did see several, yes |
| 19:18:15 | bertrik | maybe an 8-bit and an 16-bit one |
| 19:18:17 | funman | one is an extension of the other which uses 2 serial words out/16 bits |
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| 19:18:32 | funman | the 16 bits one use str on DBOP_DOUT (32 bits) |
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| 19:19:19 | funman | and also a function which write ((3<<30) ASR 30) into DBOP_DOUT after some kind of transfer |
| 19:19:55 | bertrik | could be, I can't remember that |
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| 19:24:20 | funman | bertrik: lcd_update_rect is at 0x15B30 in c200v2 03.02.05 (found it by comparng to clip of) |
| 19:25:03 | bertrik | cool, thanks, I'll have a look |
| 19:25:30 | bertrik | so I guess there's hardly anything getting in the way of c200v2 anymore ... :P |
| 19:25:35 | funman | and the real code is in some library block :/ |
| 19:25:56 | funman | perhaps a thunderstruck coming through my window .. :) |
| 19:36:35 | saratoga | 92% stack usage is probably MP3 |
| 19:36:57 | saratoga | the stack is in IRAM so we load as many variables as possible into it rather then use the heap in DRAM |
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| 19:42:57 | bertrik | the stack seems to be in DRAM on ams sansas, at least if I understand the linker script correctly |
| 19:43:06 | saratoga | that should be fixed |
| 19:43:19 | saratoga | perhaps its why they're slower |
| 19:43:23 | funman | don't codecs define their own stack ? |
| 19:44:03 | bertrik | (I'm referring to app.lds in firmware/target/arm/as3525) |
| 19:44:22 | funman | sandisk/app.lds use iram for stacks |
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| 19:47:13 | bertrik | I'm not really familiar yet with the ams sansa memory map |
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| 19:53:15 | funman | bertrik: you can just copy what is made for sansa e200v1 (and check that it links for the clip :o) |
| 19:56:14 | bertrik | ld: region IRAM is full :o) |
| 19:56:49 | funman | try getting some bytes back from the plugin buffer |
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| 20:01:30 | bertrik | but I think the plugin buffer is in DRAM |
| 20:02:41 | funman | hum right .. |
| 20:03:23 | funman | from codec buffer then |
| 20:04:57 | bertrik | I better just take a piece of paper and try to figure out what goes where (or should go where) |
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| 20:09:54 | funman | on targets with 2MB, the whole codec buffer is in IRAM, and the remaining bits of IRAM are used by rockbox for functions & data specified to be in iram (lcd framebuffer, rolo pieces, memcpy, ..) |
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| 20:20:35 | funman | pixelma: would you test something on your c200v1 please ? just add lcd_send_command(R_SPEC_DISPLAY_PATTERN);lcd_send_command(3); at the end of lcd_init_device() // you should get an uniform screen, not sure if it's white or black |
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| 20:25:09 | pixelma | funman: not sure I'm actually able to |
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| 20:29:17 | snill | hi, when i plug the cable into my sandisk sansa e270 with the newest stable release of rockbox, the original sansa firmware starts. can't i use the usb cable with rockbox directly? |
| 20:29:25 | petur | GodEater: ping. Can you go to -community please? |
| 20:29:51 | Mikachu | snill: try the latest current build? |
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| 20:30:06 | snill | should i? |
| 20:30:06 | gevaerts | snill: you know you can plug in after booting, right? |
| 20:30:15 | bluebrother | snill: the last release does reboot. That's intended. |
| 20:30:19 | snill | i mean the stable build is from march |
| 20:30:22 | pixelma | snill: which "stable release", can you be more specific? |
| 20:30:22 | snill | ah ok |
| 20:30:23 | Mikachu | iirc the usb support for pp is committed after 3.2 |
| 20:30:29 | Mikachu | it is in the changelog for 3.3 |
| 20:30:31 | snill | the latest stable |
| 20:30:32 | gevaerts | ah yes. |
| 20:30:32 | Mikachu | (which isn't released yet) |
| 20:30:35 | * | gevaerts missed "release" |
| 20:31:09 | snill | ok |
| 20:31:12 | pixelma | version numbers are more reliable than "latest"... ;) |
| 20:31:17 | snill | ok sec |
| 20:31:29 | snill | 3,2 |
| 20:31:56 | snill | ok, then i'll try the current build |
| 20:32:11 | Mikachu | you might want to do a "save .cfg" first |
| 20:32:29 | snill | no, i just installed it, not much configured till now |
| 20:32:33 | snill | thanks for the hints |
| 20:32:36 | Mikachu | ah |
| 20:33:16 | bertrik | funman, I made the codec_size a bit smaller but now I get codec failure splashes |
| 20:33:46 | bertrik | oh, I think I didn't do a clean compile |
| 20:34:10 | bluebrother | Mikachu: USB is in pre-3.2 as well but was disabled for the release |
| 20:35:05 | Mikachu | ah |
| 20:39:14 | bertrik | hm, is there any guideline for the size of CODEC_SIZE? |
| 20:39:45 | funman | big enough so every codec do link, and further codec modifications still link |
| 20:40:22 | funman | i'm not sure where codecs using malloc() reserve their heap though |
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| 20:46:27 | bertrik | funman, sorry, I just don't understand the memory map very well, apparently playback still works with 0x2000 bytes less codec buffer, but putting the stack in IRAM just gives me codec failures |
| 20:47:11 | bluebrother | domonoky: around? |
| 20:47:21 | * | domonoky waves |
| 20:48:23 | * | bluebrother waves back |
| 20:48:51 | bluebrother | any thoughts on a new rbutil release? With Rockbox 3.3 coming up it would be good to get rid of those 404 issues |
| 20:48:53 | bertrik | domonoky, can I hack on your e200v2 to get the radio working at devcon? |
| 20:49:05 | domonoky | funman: codecs\libtremor\oggmalloc.c looks like ogg uses both, the rest of the pluginbuffer and a iram buffer for malloc. for clip/m200v4 this would be both in iram. |
| 20:49:15 | domonoky | bertrik: sure. |
| 20:49:53 | domonoky | bluebrother: a new release would be good. we should solve the manual issue, and other naming issues before. |
| 20:50:26 | pixelma | the one that's already fixed in SVN? |
| 20:51:09 | bluebrother | are those issues still present? I thought those are fixed in svn. |
| 20:51:43 | * | domonoky goes checking the svn log :-) |
| 20:52:10 | bluebrother | oh, mini1g still fails. Guess I'd need to check every target :( |
| 20:53:04 | domonoky | h120 also fails. |
| 20:53:32 | kugel | domonoky: "for clip/m200v4 this would be both in iram."? I thought plugin buffer is in DRAM |
| 20:53:53 | domonoky | kugel: sorry i meant the codec buffer, its not a plugin :-) |
| 20:54:04 | kugel | ah, ok :) |
| 20:54:41 | domonoky | voice downloading for sansas is also broken in svn :-/ |
| 20:55:02 | bluebrother | we really need to get that naming mess cleaned up :/ |
| 20:57:08 | domonoky | yes, but how ? |
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| 20:57:42 | bluebrother | well, that's something we need to figure out :) |
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| 21:00:20 | domonoky | the naming issue is really two issues: 1. different named targets at different places, and 2 .different numbers of targets for different things, because we dont wont dublication for targets where |
| 21:00:40 | domonoky | there are differences on only some parts |
| 21:00:59 | domonoky | ie they share a manual, or a rockbox build, but have different bootloaders. |
| 21:01:10 | bluebrother | yep. |
| 21:02:21 | domonoky | the first one shouldnt be hard to solve, but what todo with the second part ? |
| 21:03:12 | bluebrother | a first possible step would be to assign each target a "long shortname" that is completely unique but still descriptive. Something like <vendor>-<model>. Then make everything support that naming, f.e. genlang for rbutil |
| 21:06:04 | domonoky | how about the download server ? should we host identical copies of things (voices/manuals/builds/..) with different names, so we have all possible targets everywhere ? |
| 21:06:07 | CIA-37 | New commit by bluebrother (r21296): Fix manual download using the wrong filename if the manual name differs from the target name. |
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| 21:06:39 | Mikachu | just symlink? |
| 21:07:05 | bluebrother | we could use symlinks on the download server. OTOH having fallback names in rbutil would be somewhat nicer if you install different targets so caching can more often kick in. |
| 21:09:04 | funman | bertrik: codec failure can happen if memory map from plugin & rockbox is different, so make sure you rebuilt all codecs, and perhaps also check that they are linked with the correct map (apps/codecs/codec.link) |
| 21:10:36 | domonoky | grr, why are the voice files for the sansas on the downloadserver named "sansae200..." or similar. when configure knows them under just "e200" ? |
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| 21:11:51 | mcuelenaere | could people with IE, Safari, ... please test the rollovers on themes.rockbox.org? |
| 21:12:11 | domonoky | bluebrother: we could solve the naming issue completely in rbutil, if we make seperate rbutil.ini entrys for voice/manual/build/bootloader/etc :-) |
| 21:12:58 | domonoky | but that only hides the problem :-) |
| 21:13:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | mcuelenaere: I can try with IE6 right now. |
| 21:14:16 | mcuelenaere | LambdaCalculus37: please do :) |
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| 21:16:13 | bluebrother | I wouldn't call that "solve" :) |
| 21:16:32 | CIA-37 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r21297): Theme site: add rollover functionality as it's currently used at themes.rockbox.org (based on FS #10137) |
| 21:16:51 | funman | GodEater: would you modify a bit your c200v1 lcd driver to test something for me please ? |
| 21:17:03 | GodEater | I can |
| 21:17:44 | LambdaCalculus37 | mcuelenaere: Works in IE6. |
| 21:17:53 | funman | g*: just add lcd_send_command(R_SPEC_DISPLAY_PATTERN);lcd_send_command(3); at the end of lcd_init_device() in firmware/target/arm/sandisk/sansa-c200/lcd-c200.c // the display should be uniformly black or white |
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| 21:18:16 | CIA-37 | New commit by Domonoky (r21298): rbutil: fix voice download for some targets. (again naming issues) |
| 21:18:52 | bluebrother | domonoky: they are named differently to make the mess messier :) |
| 21:19:15 | GodEater | funman: right after the call to lcd_send_command(R_DISPLAY_ON) ? |
| 21:19:21 | domonoky | no, i found out they are named after the buildserver list, as the buildserver creates them :-) |
| 21:19:56 | funman | GodEater: yep |
| 21:19:56 | evilnick | mcuelenaere: Is the mouseover supposed to work on ALL themes or only specific ones? |
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| 21:20:03 | bluebrother | well, that doesn't make the mess less messier ;-) |
| 21:20:09 | mcuelenaere | evilnick: only on the ones where a menu image was uploaded |
| 21:20:21 | mcuelenaere | (which are most I think) |
| 21:20:39 | bluebrother | at least it seems like we have those 404 issues fixed now, right? We need testers ... |
| 21:20:42 | domonoky | so in general we have 4-5 different lists: configure, buildserver, manuals, bootloaders, rbutil itself. |
| 21:20:43 | GodEater | funman: building now |
| 21:21:04 | mcuelenaere | as the menu screenshot is optional, not all themes will have them |
| 21:21:05 | evilnick | mcuelenaere: Looks fine on IE7 as well then |
| 21:21:45 | mcuelenaere | k, I got FF, IE, Chrome & Konqueror confirmed; I guess that's most of the browsers covered |
| 21:22:19 | bluebrother | domonoky: see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuildNames |
| 21:23:09 | bluebrother | I'd really like to have a generic <manufacturer>-<model> naming that is understood by all tools, and shortnames like "h100" being optional. |
| 21:23:11 | LambdaCalculus37 | mcuelenaere: I can try Safari after work. |
| 21:23:47 | LambdaCalculus37 | mcuelenaere: And also Opera. :) |
| 21:24:35 | domonoky | bluebrother: so if could get some testers we could now make a release :-) maybe we should build rc binarys ? |
| 21:25:36 | mcuelenaere | LambdaCalculus37: ok :) |
| 21:26:20 | domonoky | bluebrother: should i commit the non-hacky part of my accessibilty rework ? (mostly added accessiblenames to inputs) |
| 21:26:30 | soap | If I were to buy some SanDisk SlotMusic players, would any devs be interested? funman? |
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| 21:28:47 | soap | It's a $20 no-screen, no memory player which relies on a MicroSD card for storage. |
| 21:28:51 | GodEater | funman: it's white |
| 21:29:20 | funman_ | soap: why not |
| 21:29:28 | funman_ | GodEater: cool, thanks |
| 21:29:46 | GodEater | np |
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| 21:30:14 | soap | I expect a port within 2,000 days of receiving the player! |
| 21:30:17 | funman_ | i think the c200v2 lcd controller is not powered |
| 21:30:36 | funman_ | soap: I promise a port within 0x2000 days |
| 21:30:48 | CIA-37 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r21299): Theme site: Also adjust admin panel to rollovers |
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| 21:30:57 | bluebrother | domonoky: if it's non-hacky then we would add it anyway at some point, right? |
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| 21:31:26 | Zagor | please tell me #10338 is a joke |
| 21:31:45 | domonoky | bluebrother: yes. |
| 21:31:55 | soap | funman, good thing it runs off of AA batteries. |
| 21:31:59 | bluebrother | Zagor: I don't think so, unfortunately |
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| 21:32:09 | domonoky | bluebrother: and it helps at least a little bit. |
| 21:32:12 | bluebrother | domonoky: well, then I don't see any reason to hold that back. |
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| 21:33:09 | Mikachu | Zagor: he was in here the other day talking about it |
| 21:33:48 | funman | soap: do you mean the screenless and memoryless slotmusic ? |
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| 21:34:07 | Zagor | how many people in 2009 are comfortable "typing" in morse? he and his friends in the Morse Society? |
| 21:34:20 | funman | soap: then i'm not sure i'm interested :p |
| 21:34:50 | JdGordon| | Zagor: about the same amount of people still using charcell and hwcodecs :) |
| 21:36:21 | Zagor | JdGordon|: hehe |
| 21:36:42 | * | Zagor raises a hwcodec hand |
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| 21:39:05 | gevaerts | Zagor: there's a forum thread about this IIRC, with several people wanting this |
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| 21:41:03 | bluebrother | btw, I've done a systrace functionality a few days ago. I.e. allowing the user to access and save the qDebug() output. What do you think about adding that too? It might help with debugging but it isn't completely finished yet. |
| 21:41:19 | CIA-37 | New commit by Domonoky (r21300): rbutil: improve accessibility a little bit. |
| 21:44:09 | kugel | JdGordon|: and the same amount of ape users, though they're obviously not the same :) |
| 21:44:47 | kugel | Zagor: I actually never even tried it, I think it's not even available on some or most targets |
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| 21:50:26 | mcuelenaere | hmm is there an easy way to save an int[6] or a struct of 6 int's as a Rockbox setting? |
| 21:52:43 | saratoga | bertrik: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CodecMemoryUsage |
| 21:52:57 | saratoga | the static memory usage table is good enough just to get things to compile |
| 21:53:16 | saratoga | for codecs like AAC and Vorbis that malloc, some files will fail to play but thats not a big deal right now |
| 21:53:45 | * | obo thinks he has found the LCD init code |
| 21:55:02 | JdGordon| | mcuelenaere: no |
| 21:55:10 | domonoky | bluebrother: sounds good. |
| 21:55:14 | JdGordon| | although... it might make sense to finally add that |
| 21:55:54 | mcuelenaere | JdGordon|: I'm trying to get the touchscreen calibration data into the config.cfg file |
| 21:55:54 | domonoky | bluebrother: there is still a bug in the manual downloading. compare the target name handling of updateManual() with downloadManual() |
| 21:56:59 | kugel | obo: good one :) |
| 21:57:35 | JdGordon| | mcuelenaere: umm... I tihnk you can do it with the custom (?) setting type... |
| 21:57:49 | kugel | mcuelenaere: you can save arrays |
| 21:57:54 | JdGordon| | i dont remember what its called or how to use it correctly, but if you dont need menus it shuold be doable |
| 21:58:06 | kugel | I do that in my customlist patch. though that's a char array |
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| 21:59:06 | JdGordon| | you can store it any way you want cant you? |
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| 22:00:18 | kugel | hm |
| 22:00:32 | mcuelenaere | you mean using CUSTOM_SETTING() ? |
| 22:00:40 | kugel | there's one problem though. unless it's saved as string, it may conflict with text editors |
| 22:00:44 | mcuelenaere | so I can use whatever type I want in the global_settings struct? |
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| 22:01:03 | mcuelenaere | kugel: I plan to save it as a string using some kind of custom load/write routine |
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| 22:01:15 | domonoky | bluebrother: about the manual: you either need to delete the empty manualname= lines in rbutil.ini, or copy the same handling as in updateManual() |
| 22:01:40 | funman | obo: cool :) |
| 22:02:01 | snill | hi in which config file can i prevent gvfs-blabla-gphoto-blabla from handling my sansa e270 again? |
| 22:02:34 | obo | Now to find the other LCD functions :) |
| 22:03:05 | bertrik | I disabled two entries for my sansa in /usr/share/hal/fdi/preprobe/10osvendor/20-libgphoto2.fdi |
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| 22:03:24 | bluebrother | domonoky: why? I check if the manualname is empty. If the line in rbutil.ini is empty it's empty :) |
| 22:03:52 | funman | obo: where is it located in the bootloader? |
| 22:03:52 | bluebrother | ah, sorry. Looked at the wrong line. |
| 22:04:10 | obo | funman: 0x5CC8 |
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| 22:04:19 | kugel | obo: once you find lcd_update()/_rect() it should be possible to find the data and reg functions too |
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| 22:05:27 | funman | obo: oops it's using function pointers, you must find what these are set to :) |
| 22:06:21 | obo | funman: yup, I've yet to find out where it is called from. Maybe from RAM (those 0x10F00000 offsets)? |
| 22:06:49 | obo | but those first few values which are written are similar to the c200/e200 code |
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| 22:07:42 | funman | obo: perhaps look in the early init code if something writes to [something, #0x28] - not sure if it's precise enough to be visible |
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| 22:08:51 | obo | funman: what's the 0x28? |
| 22:09:20 | kugel | function pointers are good to obfusicate the disassembly :( |
| 22:10:35 | CIA-37 | New commit by bluebrother (r21301): Fix default filename for manual downloads. |
| 22:10:41 | funman | obo: ldr r0, [r4]; ldr r6, [r0, #0x28]; bx r6 << I suppose it's (*r4)->lcd_write_cmd |
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| 22:12:13 | obo | funman: @ 0x5DB6? |
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| 22:12:32 | funman | yep for example |
| 22:12:53 | funman | the same function is used several times |
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| 22:19:06 | obo | funman: 0xE0F6 calls that init code? |
| 22:21:10 | funman | hm? |
| 22:22:20 | obo | at 0x40F6, it uses 10F05CBD - if you take off the RAM offset of 10F00000... ? |
| 22:22:36 | snill | @bertrik, i disabled the entries and it works like a charm, thank you |
| 22:25:00 | funman | obo: I think you mean 0xE0F6, 0x5CBD is a simple "bx lr" for me |
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| 22:35:41 | mcuelenaere | hmm isn't it possible to 'turn off' a target in the sim? |
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| 22:37:58 | CIA-37 | New commit by bluebrother (r21302): Set the maximum first when updating the progresslogger progress bar as otherwise the new value will get dropped if outside of the valid range. Fixes ... |
| 22:39:10 | funman | mcuelenaere: i think there is no power down |
| 22:39:41 | mcuelenaere | hmm then how could I force a disk write flush? |
| 22:40:29 | mcuelenaere | s/disk write/settings config/ |
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| 22:41:05 | CIA-37 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r21303): Onda VX747 simulator: add some more usefull keys |
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| 22:42:46 | funman | ladies and gentlemen, we have random pixels set on c200v2 \o/ |
| 22:43:06 | Bagder | funman: rocking! |
| 22:43:06 | obo | funman: nice :) |
| 22:43:09 | gevaerts | Yay! |
| 22:43:21 | bertrik | you should come demonstrate it at devcon :P |
| 22:43:34 | funman | :( |
| 22:44:06 | funman | i'm still working on the week-ends unfortunately |
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| 22:45:39 | bluebrother | anyone interested in testing an svn build of rbutil? -> http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/rbutilqt-svn.zip |
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| 22:49:29 | pixelma | funman: take a blurry picture and claim it's the bootscreen, no-one will notice the difference ;) |
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| 22:50:00 | funman | ^^ |
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| 23:05:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | mcuelenaere: themes.rockbox.org rollovers work in Opera 9.64 and Safari 4. |
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| 23:06:11 | mcuelenaere | ok |
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| 23:10:37 | funman | i think i only have a problem with data transfers to gram now : i can see the "firmware upgrade" message on the screen when the c200v2 boots |
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