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00:02:50 | Llorean | safetydan: Well, as I said, the controls needed for it are very basic. |
00:02:56 | shotofadds | JdGordon|: ah, currently MIDRIGHT seems to do two actions: it both increments the slider AND switches between Gain/CutOff/Q. |
00:03:03 | Llorean | safetydan: The touchscreen has a control mode that basically makes it a four-directional + select controller |
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00:03:29 | safetydan | Llorean: ah, okay. makes a little more sense now. |
00:03:35 | shotofadds | SELECT switches between Gain/CutOff/Q, but seems to act twice on short presses |
00:03:41 | Llorean | safetydan: So it basically boils down to needing a "back" button, and mapping all those virtual button.s |
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00:08:28 | lee321987 | I have to delete everything in my .rockbox folder. Does the file "config.cfg" contain all my last used settings? |
00:09:13 | JdGordon| | yes |
00:09:32 | Mikachu | lee321987: you can just rename the dir too |
00:09:49 | lee321987 | good idea. Thanks guys. |
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00:27:25 | lee321987 | In 'Debug (Keep Out!)', what does the 'USB HID' stuff do? Is it safe to play around with it? |
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00:28:53 | stripwax | lee321987 - it lets you control media functions of your PC, when your audio player is connected to your PC via USB. |
00:30:42 | lee321987 | What PC programs does it work with? (Is this documented somewhere?) |
00:30:52 | scorche | it works with windows |
00:31:06 | rasher | lee321987: It works with whatever a regular "multimedia keyboard" works with |
00:31:22 | rasher | In fact, Rockbox pretends to be a keyboard with only those buttons. |
00:31:29 | stripwax | lee321987 - in theory it should behave the same as pressing the "volume up" key on a PC keyboard [for those PC keyboards that have them], etc |
00:31:48 | Llorean | You don't need to go into debug to use them though |
00:31:58 | lee321987 | Player buttons? |
00:32:01 | Llorean | Those are leftovers from when it was in an earlier state, it's now automatic when supported devices are attached to a PC. |
00:32:18 | rasher | Is there any sense in keeping them there? |
00:32:33 | Llorean | As far as I've been told, no. |
00:32:45 | Llorean | They're redundant at this point since you can actually just press the buttons. |
00:33:02 | gevaerts | I'll remove them soon (not today though. A bit late for safe committing) |
00:33:53 | rasher | lee321987: You can controll the volume, playback etc. on your computer with the buttons on your DAP, when connected to your computer. Which DAP do you have? |
00:34:14 | lee321987 | c200v1 |
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00:40:37 | pixelma | most of them equal the WPS controls (play/pause, volume etc.) |
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00:41:47 | stripwax | When do daily builds kick off? |
00:41:59 | lee321987 | I wish I could play around with it. Once I finally get my player connected good, touching it may screw up the connection. |
00:42:02 | stripwax | Looks like yesterday is must have been around midnight GMT |
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00:42:55 | linuxstb | stripwax: I thought they were around 6am GMT |
00:43:40 | stripwax | Ah ok. In that case I'll do a quick commit or two now then.. |
00:43:54 | Zagor | 06:00 CET |
00:44:10 | pixelma | summer time? |
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00:44:28 | Zagor | pixelma: yes, whatever time Stockholm has :) |
00:44:40 | pixelma | :) |
00:45:05 | CIA-69 | New commit by stripwax (r21615): Fix playlist viewer behaviour when deleting tracks (one ret had missed being changed to ret_val). FIx playlist viewer behaviour when deleting the only ... |
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00:45:20 | pixelma | 6AM Stockholm time |
00:45:34 | stripwax | pixelma - thanks! |
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00:48:01 | pixelma | stripwax: thanks too, need to try out your fixes (I'm watching the "playlist moving" report as I was affected) |
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01:03:55 | CIA-69 | New commit by stripwax (r21616): Commit patch in FS #7967 by Vuong Minh Hiep (with some small changes to variable names for consistency) - separately keep track of viewer-index and ... |
01:03:59 | stripwax | pixelma - no problems, let me know how it works out for you |
01:04:39 | Unhelpful | amiconn: i'm not convinced that will be a big gain in the even part. i think it may be worthwhile in the odd part, since i can also replace the two shifts with two packs (to pack the odd-part coefficients togeth) |
01:04:43 | Unhelpful | together. eesh. |
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01:17:02 | mt | \o/ \o/ |
01:17:13 | obo | mt: congrats! |
01:17:19 | Unhelpful | mt: progress? |
01:17:24 | * | rasher looks for the announcement |
01:17:33 | * | obo points to the dev-ml |
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01:17:41 | JdGordon| | mt: congrats |
01:18:00 | rasher | mt: Nice job |
01:18:07 | mt | Thanks all :) |
01:18:19 | Unhelpful | good work :D |
01:18:26 | mt | ;) |
01:18:32 | rasher | Haven't we had codecs without seeking enabled before? |
01:18:36 | JdGordon| | hardly worth the effort untill seeking works though! |
01:18:38 | JdGordon| | :D |
01:18:59 | JdGordon| | yeah, no need to wait for seeking to work to commit |
01:19:09 | mt | JdGordon| : No RM for you !! |
01:19:16 | mt | Oh now I take it back. :D |
01:19:25 | JdGordon| | oh thats a sh<buffering> |
01:19:32 | JdGordon| | ame |
01:20:04 | mt | :) |
01:20:20 | saratoga_ | rasher: yeah it was a couple months before we enabled seeking for wma for instance, and SHN still doesn't seek |
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02:43:10 | G-Prime | Hello everyone! |
02:43:39 | G-Prime | Could anyone help me as to how to get the TIMESTRETCH feature of Rockbox to work on my Sansa e280? |
02:47:24 | FlynDice | G-Prime: from wps long seleect brings up context menu. Then look for "pitch" |
02:47:33 | FlynDice | select even |
02:48:30 | rasher | You need to enable it. In the playback settings I believe |
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03:09:49 | drakonik | So I've got an incredibly frustrating bug. I've got an ipod video 30g, I just installed Rockbox 3.3 about 30 minutes ago, and whenever I try to build the database, the player's backlight flashes for a split second and the whole thing crashes hard, total power down. |
03:10:44 | drakonik | Problem is that it's got 900 to 1300 songs in its database before it does this so short of adding the files one by one, I don't really know how I"d figure out which one is causing a crash. |
03:10:46 | Llorean | Try updating to the newest current build and see if it's better. |
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03:10:59 | drakonik | Alright, I can do that |
03:11:31 | drakonik | Is this a known issue? |
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03:13:13 | Llorean | Less a "known issue" and more "overall improvements have happened since then" |
03:13:28 | Llorean | So while I couldn't say why yours is crashing, I can say it's *likely* at least a newer version could improve it |
03:13:28 | drakonik | I figured as much. Fingers crossed, then. |
03:14:27 | drakonik | I hope it works, I desperately want/need Rockbox |
03:16:36 | G-Prime | FlnDice: I've tried looking for the option in the "playback settings" but it's not there. Why is this? |
03:16:47 | Llorean | G-Prime: What build are you using? |
03:17:02 | G-Prime | 3.3 |
03:17:11 | Llorean | It wasn't in 3.3 |
03:17:16 | drakonik | Balls. |
03:17:23 | G-Prime | Which build is it in? |
03:18:01 | drakonik | that was strange. I hadn't even started building the database yet and it crashes. |
03:18:13 | Llorean | G-Prime: Current. |
03:18:29 | G-Prime | I thought 3.3 was released on June 19 being the most current one |
03:18:38 | Llorean | It's the most current release. |
03:18:50 | G-Prime | Ah, got it |
03:19:02 | G-Prime | Timestretch is on a build that still isnt a release, a beta |
03:20:14 | Llorean | Not a beta. |
03:20:17 | Llorean | Just the current SVN builds. |
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03:20:35 | G-Prime | Thanks for your help so far buddy, how do I use this "SVN" build? |
03:20:49 | Llorean | It's an option when installing - current build. |
03:21:30 | G-Prime | got it |
03:26:04 | G-Prime | I'm trying it right now and it still seems to be affecting the pitch |
03:26:28 | Llorean | Did you turn timestretch on and shut down and boot up again? |
03:26:33 | G-Prime | yes |
03:26:41 | G-Prime | Let me try turning it OFF to see if it makes a difference |
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03:26:51 | Llorean | I just asked if you turned it off and you said yes... |
03:26:53 | Mikachu | G-Prime: did you also change the mode in the pitch screen? |
03:26:57 | Mikachu | Llorean: i think he means the setting |
03:27:10 | G-Prime | Yea |
03:27:23 | G-Prime | I turned it on, adjusted the pitch and it still seemed to be adjusting the pitch |
03:27:31 | G-Prime | So let me try turning timestretch OFF to see if it makes a difference |
03:28:05 | Mikachu | G-Prime: so you didn't switch the mode then |
03:28:32 | Mikachu | in the pitch screen, you have to press a button to change it to timestretch mode |
03:28:42 | Mikachu | you can only do this if the setting is enabled |
03:28:48 | G-Prime | I've enabled the setting |
03:28:49 | Mikachu | enabling the setting doesn't switch the mode |
03:28:56 | G-Prime | What do I press at the pitch screen to turn it to TIMESTRETCH? |
03:29:02 | Mikachu | i don't know, i don't have a sansa |
03:29:06 | Mikachu | try all buttons ;) |
03:31:34 | G-Prime | HOLLY JUMPING JACKS! |
03:31:35 | G-Prime | I got it |
03:31:37 | G-Prime | THANKS guys |
03:31:54 | G-Prime | Oh wow |
03:32:01 | G-Prime | This works flawless on this audibook |
03:34:51 | drakonik | still crashing. Excellent. |
03:35:06 | drakonik | Even with the latest release |
03:35:47 | Mikachu | drakonik: you don't just have a weak battery? |
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03:36:14 | drakonik | Nope, I thought that was it, but I ran the database scan with it in charge mode |
03:38:15 | Hillshum | the usb charging is a little buggy |
03:38:23 | drakonik | Alright. |
03:38:28 | drakonik | It's worth a try. |
03:38:29 | Mikachu | the battery can run out during charging too |
03:38:33 | soap | wrong time of day for asking - but has any thought been given to adding "known issues" to the manual in a contextual manner? |
03:38:59 | drakonik | I'm throwing it on the charger, gonna give it an hour or so |
03:39:14 | drakonik | Should be long enough for it to scan 1400 files. |
03:39:46 | soap | I got to thinking about this when reading Llorean's post http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=22071.msg152456#msg152456 and thought "that maybe should be added to 7.12" |
03:40:18 | saratoga_ | drakonik: usually a crash during database scan means that you have a corrupted file that the tag parser crashes on, so you'll need to figure out which file that is and fix its tags |
03:40:25 | drakonik | Hm. |
03:40:29 | saratoga_ | ideally you should then send us a copy of that file so we can make it not crash |
03:40:46 | Mikachu | saratoga_: will a crash in the scanner cause a shutdown though? |
03:40:46 | saratoga_ | well send it to us before you fix it's tags |
03:40:50 | drakonik | Does Rockbox maybe not support unicode characters or something? |
03:40:50 | soap | it likely would only make sense to do so by adding a new convention, similar to the existing "Note" one. |
03:41:23 | rasher | soap: do we get to use a tiny bug icon? |
03:41:33 | saratoga_ | Mikachu: he said it crashes |
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03:41:46 | soap | if I say "tiny pig icon" do I get your vote? |
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03:41:54 | Mikachu | "whenever I try to build the database, the player's backlight flashes for a split second and the whole thing crashes hard, total power down." |
03:41:59 | drakonik | It crashes. Hard. Doesn't freeze up, it dies straight dead. |
03:43:00 | rasher | does the pc database scanner work these days? |
03:43:00 | drakonik | Anyway, I'll look at the tags |
03:43:06 | drakonik | That's my best lead so far |
03:44:08 | drakonik | But really, if Rockbox doesn't support foreign (non-english) characters, that could be doing it. |
03:44:22 | saratoga_ | we do |
03:44:26 | soap | drakonik, better than "looking" at the tags (if you meant that literally, else ignore) is to do a binary search by removing 50% of your music and seeing if you can reproduce, and swap and split your file collection until you find the problem file - it likely isn't a "visible" tag issue. |
03:44:26 | drakonik | Good |
03:44:46 | drakonik | soap: actually |
03:44:52 | drakonik | goddamn |
03:44:56 | drakonik | why didn't I think of that? |
03:45:19 | saratoga_ | post the file when you find it on the bug tracker |
03:45:24 | drakonik | right. |
03:45:37 | soap | and I would not be shocked if the tag problem is a result of your tagger lying to you anyway. |
03:45:45 | drakonik | Likewise |
03:45:52 | drakonik | I JUST retagged these a few days ago |
03:46:26 | soap | I have made a fool of myself multiple times trusting my (then) favorite tagger. |
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03:50:52 | drakonik | oh jesus |
03:51:03 | drakonik | trying to copy files OFF the ipod is causing it to crash |
03:51:17 | drakonik | hahaha oh wow |
03:51:21 | Mikachu | just charge it for a while dude :) |
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03:51:53 | drakonik | I think I found a problem file |
03:51:56 | drakonik | there might be more |
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03:53:57 | drakonik | oh wow, this is broken pretty bad |
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03:57:13 | drakonik | impressive! |
03:57:17 | drakonik | It won't even charge itself |
03:57:24 | drakonik | It keeps disconnecting itself |
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03:57:52 | soap | boot into apple firmware - if it keeps disconnecting itself you know it is a hardware issue. |
03:57:58 | drakonik | yeah |
03:58:09 | drakonik | Trying to, but Menu+Center button wasn't working |
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06:01:37 | funman | start of clipv2 port fs#10047 |
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06:04:41 | JdGordon | i have no clip |
06:05:30 | funman | even more contentious ;) |
06:06:53 | * | JdGordon *hates* large patches :( |
06:06:56 | JdGordon | such a PITA to review |
06:07:27 | funman | JdGordon: need help? |
06:07:47 | JdGordon | na |
06:08:01 | JdGordon | I'm looking at 8799 to try and either break it or get it commitable |
06:08:08 | JdGordon | havnt decided which yet :p |
06:08:37 | * | JdGordon gets the idea of working on a scroll-wheel-usable vkeyboard |
06:09:19 | Llorean | With user-definable list dimensions (or, more specifically, a final state of "everything happens in viewports") would that make rotation potentially easier, since at that point everything is basically working with flexible screen dimensions? |
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06:10:02 | JdGordon | that is one obstacle... certainly not the biuggest though |
06:10:23 | Llorean | I thought everything depending on screen dimensions was the biggest obstacle. |
06:11:25 | Unhelpful | no core text rotate either, is there? |
06:11:41 | JdGordon | the lcd driver would provide that |
06:12:25 | JdGordon | I was more worried about the inbuilt images, but there arnt very many, and where there are, they could be either forced to portraight, or rotated easily enough |
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06:14:01 | JdGordon | unfortunatly, we are still a fair way off from having viewports working "properly" |
06:14:50 | Llorean | Well, I don't have much use for rotation beyond where we already do it anyway. I was just curious. |
06:19:35 | * | JdGordon wonders if his radio patch from nov 08 still works |
06:19:43 | JdGordon | 9573 for the curious |
06:23:34 | JdGordon | Unhelpful: can you move your jpeg stuff out of apps/recorder and into apps/<something else>? |
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06:24:07 | JdGordon | actually... moving all the bmp/aa/jpeg stuff into a new folder would be nice |
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06:30:13 | JdGordon | DEATH TO THE RECORDER AND PLAYER FOLDERS |
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06:34:59 | Unhelpful | surely *anybody* could do that? ;) |
06:42:03 | JdGordon | Llorean: did we ever get to an agreement on the usb connect action patch? charge/connect/switch on button? |
06:46:00 | Llorean | I think we *mostly* settled on "an option to pick which is the default, and hold any button to get the other" |
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07:08:38 | CIA-69 | New commit by jdgordon (r21619): Fix the bug where the short-long fwd/back action would ffwd/rewind the next folder (consult the manual if that makes no sense) |
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07:09:00 | JdGordon | that stupid bug has been driving me mad since i moved to the mini2g as my main dap :p |
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08:16:24 | JdGordon | how do people feel about allowing the statusbar to be at the bottom of the screen instead of the top? |
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08:33:11 | gibbon_ | hiho |
08:33:33 | gibbon_ | is there any way to tell if my build server contributed something of any use tonight? |
08:39:39 | JdGordon | you can check the buildmaster logs from the build page |
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09:15:32 | JdGordon | bertrik: hey, have a look at 9573 when you get around to fiddling with the fm screen :) |
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09:15:43 | JdGordon | I dont know how relevant it still is though |
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09:17:44 | GodEater | wow |
09:17:52 | GodEater | seems my build server is too slow to compete at all at the moment =/ |
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10:51:21 | GodEater | the reverse engineering of the nano 2G bootroom seems to be coming along at a good pace |
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11:00:32 | linuxstb | GodEater: Someone has dumped it? |
11:00:39 | GodEater | yep |
11:01:20 | GodEater | fxb and some other guy wrote some shell code that exploited the bug in the Notes application on the ipod, and dumped the ROM contents out over a JTAG they hooked up |
11:01:34 | * | GodEater recommended #linux4nano-dev for more details |
11:01:52 | linuxstb | Cool. Only took about 2 and a half years... ;) |
11:01:56 | GodEater | hehe |
11:02:10 | GodEater | apparently the same bug exists in both the 3G Nano, and the classic |
11:02:36 | GodEater | the plan with those (a ways down the line yet) is to get access to the UART to dump the ROMS on those if it becomes necessary |
11:02:54 | GodEater | I think the 4G Nano is more complicated though, since it's closer in arch to the iphone / itouch |
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11:03:51 | GodEater | Torne has been roped into this disassembly of the nano as well, since he still can't boot your beast, we've given him that to do instead. He's apparently a bit a of a ninja with IDA. |
11:04:01 | Torne | bah |
11:04:05 | GodEater | hahaha |
11:04:06 | Torne | i had a look a bit |
11:04:18 | Torne | but tbh i think other people have already gotten much further |
11:04:24 | Torne | and i'm not sure if i can be bothered :) |
11:04:42 | GodEater | :) |
11:04:49 | GodEater | best get that beast charging then |
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12:03:28 | Unhelpful | amiconn: i had to pull teeth to get a single SMUAD. i suspect algorithmic differences are a big part of the problem, but take a look if you want. |
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12:22:15 | notlistening | new ARM processor with DSP if there was a product with them how long very guestimate would it take to implement that into rockbox and what would the advantages be? |
12:23:48 | Unhelpful | a DSP that we have nice documentation for, or one like the vast majority where there is no OSS compiler, and probably no documenation on the instruction set either? :P |
12:24:27 | Unhelpful | also, we don't give release estimates, especially for entirely hypothetical targets. |
12:28:27 | notlistening | Would the advantage of having it outweigh the effort to make it work? all in theory? |
12:29:29 | Unhelpful | "maybe". :P |
12:31:11 | notlistening | play i will stop on this line of enquiry ;P |
12:31:22 | notlistening | *okay |
12:33:03 | Torne | GodEater: i'm probably gonna start reversing what i think is the right code anyway, without the hardware :) |
12:33:19 | Torne | GodEater: it should become obvious pretty quickly if it's *not* the right code. :) |
12:36:36 | linuxstb | notlistening: There's also a lot more to a device than just the CPU. e.g. you don't know how easy it is to run your own code on this hypothetical target, something that could take years to work out... |
12:38:23 | Torne | notlistening: if we could run code, and if the dsp was documented reasonably, and there was a Free compiler, then yes, it would probably be useful. that's not a very interesting statement though, obviously hardware manufacturers wouldn't include a dsp if it wasn't useful :) |
12:39:09 | notlistening | but the qestuon more was would it / could it be harness to do good with rockbox? |
12:39:47 | Torne | if it was documented and had a free compiler then yes, we could almost certainly use it to be more power efficient |
12:40:09 | Torne | DSP implementations of many codecs tend to be feasible at lower clocks |
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12:46:02 | notlistening | okay well i will bear that in mind |
12:49:40 | Torne | it would be a huge maount of work though even with good docs |
12:49:50 | Torne | dsp programming is not easy even with a nice compiler ;) |
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13:08:54 | mcuelenaere | funman (logs): I now have the CSD & CID in the format as Linux has it, but still there are problems when using it with drivers/sd.c (it gives card->numblocks = 0 for example) |
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13:40:54 | CIA-69 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r21621): Ingenic Jz4740: remove some unneeded stuff and simplify SD driver (also thanks to Rafaël Carré) |
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15:46:14 | kugel | gevaerts: ping |
15:47:22 | gevaerts | kugel: yes? |
15:47:43 | kugel | have you seen the plugin-goto-wps patch? |
15:49:05 | gevaerts | no. Is in on flyspray somewhere? |
15:52:52 | kugel | no |
15:53:15 | kugel | gevaerts http://pastie.org/531932 |
15:53:36 | kugel | it has some other changes, but it works for rfa and pf |
15:54:12 | gevaerts | Thanks. I'll have a look at it later |
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16:51:03 | funman | mcuelenaere: do you still have problems with SD on ingenic ? (now that you enable SDHC for !HAVE_MULTIVOLUME ..) |
16:51:28 | mcuelenaere | funman: nope, not in SVN code |
16:51:33 | funman | cool :) |
16:51:35 | mcuelenaere | I'm trying to get HOTSWAP working now though |
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16:51:49 | mcuelenaere | and I think the SD thread should get moved to drivers/sd.c |
16:52:00 | funman | yeah i didn't check this one |
16:52:14 | funman | perhaps it's possible to factorize other functions and use target specific helpers also |
16:52:23 | mcuelenaere | yeah, probably |
16:52:37 | funman | nice binsize decrease ! (-2.4kB) |
16:53:05 | mcuelenaere | well, most is yours :) |
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17:22:45 | drakonik | Wow. Charged the ipod overnight and Rockbox seems to think is has zero charge, whereas the ipod firmware calls it about 50% |
17:23:25 | Mikachu | did you charge in rockbox or the ipod firmware? |
17:23:37 | drakonik | Crap. I can't even remember |
17:24:06 | Mikachu | someone can correct me, but i don't think charging ipods in rockbox is enabled(?) in 3.3 |
17:24:26 | drakonik | haha, that's...well, there's probably a goo reasn for that |
17:24:27 | drakonik | Right? |
17:24:37 | rasher | Yeah, it didn't work. |
17:24:52 | Mikachu | i'm not sure if it's disabled completely, or just the switch from 200 to 500 mA? |
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17:25:39 | Llorean | 100 to 500. It only charges at 100 AFAIK, which in many situation is less than the power needed just to run the device. |
17:25:53 | drakonik | well, the basic point is the discrepancy between the ipod battery and rockbox battery |
17:26:04 | drakonik | Also, it's crashing on boot up |
17:26:11 | drakonik | Wow. I screwed something up. Hugely. |
17:26:14 | Mikachu | Llorean: is that in svn or 3.3 though? |
17:26:19 | Llorean | Mikachu: 3.3 |
17:26:22 | Mikachu | okay |
17:26:32 | Llorean | Well, both actually |
17:26:46 | Mikachu | just what was disabled for the release then? :) |
17:26:51 | Llorean | USB |
17:26:54 | Mikachu | i'm probably more confused than i'm helping at this point |
17:26:58 | Mikachu | oh, right |
17:27:30 | Llorean | drakonik: The discrepancy in the battery levels may just be an issue of what each of us consider various levels. The runtimes between the too won't be different (or rather, they will be, but because the battery level is the same, they won't be based on what's displayed) |
17:27:35 | drakonik | I updated it to the latest build just a moment ago and I've got the same issues. And I can't even do soap's idea, because once I start trying to remove files from the ipod, it shuts itself down and then reboots and then shuts itself down and reboots, ad infinitum |
17:27:47 | Llorean | Mikachu: Even without USB support, you can still hold "Menu" to 'charge' but without the charging code, you only get low power |
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17:28:09 | Llorean | drakonik: If you can't do USB in the original firmware, your iPod has other troubles |
17:28:19 | Llorean | Honestly, the fact that overnight didn't charge it beyond 50% suggests your battery may have issues. |
17:28:42 | Mikachu | drakonik: just to be sure, reboot it in the ipod firmware and let it charge for two hours, without doing anything with it in the meantime |
17:29:01 | drakonik | Which is strange, cause I never had an iota of trouble till I started messing with Rockbox. To be fair though, I didn't really try doing anything AT ALL with it till I started dicking with Rockbox |
17:29:17 | drakonik | It's in the ipod firmware right now |
17:29:19 | drakonik | charging up |
17:29:24 | Mikachu | well, wait a while then :) |
17:30:13 | drakonik | Another question: what exactly does the database scan pick up? Cause I know I've only got less than a thousand song files here, but the scan say it's picking up 1300 or more before it crashes. |
17:31:52 | drakonik | Does it detect every single file in the file system? If so, then the config files...might be getting scanned. Hm. |
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17:32:34 | GodEater | the .rockbox directory has a database.ignore file in it, which prevents the database scan from looking at anything in that directory structure. |
17:32:43 | drakonik | Aha. |
17:32:46 | GodEater | elswhere, it scans every file - since it doesnt' know what's music and what isn't till it opens it |
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17:34:44 | drakonik | hrm |
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17:36:18 | drakonik | Oh wow. |
17:36:42 | drakonik | There's nothing but .rockbox on my ipod, and the database scan is still finding 1000 files |
17:36:57 | Llorean | And you're sure there's no trash folder or recycle bin? |
17:37:28 | drakonik | 99%, I have Explorer set to show me hidden/system folders and I see nothing |
17:37:34 | drakonik | I dunno how else to check, though. |
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17:38:02 | Torne | failing anything else, dir /a |
17:38:05 | Torne | :) |
17:38:17 | Llorean | Or set Rockbox to show all files, and browse in Rockbox. |
17:38:20 | drakonik | Unfortunately, it's not crashing. Which means that it IS the music's fault |
17:40:30 | GodEater | Torne: I think "ls" works failing anything else too ;) |
17:40:40 | Llorean | GodEater: I'm pretty sure the Gigabeat S also has the pause on unplug feature |
17:40:42 | * | Llorean goes to dig up his nano |
17:40:54 | GodEater | Llorean: is it supported yet tho ? :) |
17:41:01 | Mikachu | drakonik: you didn't charge for 2 hours already, did you? ;) |
17:41:03 | drakonik | Windows doesn't support 'ls', unfortunately |
17:41:07 | drakonik | Mikachu: I had a hunch |
17:41:11 | drakonik | I needed to try it |
17:41:15 | Torne | dir /a is fine ;) |
17:42:17 | doink1212 | i am trying to setup my sansa clip with rockbox, but it wont mount on ubuntu, how do i reset the mount point (i think rhythmbox took the default settings) |
17:42:23 | drakonik | Yep, no trash folders, no nothing |
17:43:00 | drakonik | gonna run the scan again, see what I can see |
17:43:07 | Torne | do you not even have iPod_Control? |
17:43:09 | Torne | and hte other Apple folders? |
17:43:10 | Llorean | GodEater: Well, if we change the requirements for supported like is discussed it will be *much* closer |
17:43:24 | drakonik | Torne: I removed them. |
17:43:35 | drakonik | To make sure that .rockbox, which is supposed to be ignored, is the only directory |
17:43:40 | Torne | hm. then if it still claims there are >1000 files your filesystem is probably corrupt :) |
17:43:55 | drakonik | And with naught but Rockbox installed, I've got 674 hits for the database |
17:43:55 | drakonik | haha |
17:43:56 | Llorean | GodEater: My Nano pauses on headphone unplug just fine |
17:44:07 | drakonik | Gonna see what I can do to wipe my ipod |
17:44:18 | GodEater | Llorean: and does a rewind too ? |
17:44:27 | Torne | drakonik: you could just format it, though you may need a special tool to do so on windows if it's a large drive |
17:44:40 | drakonik | Yeah, I'm gonna reformat it |
17:44:48 | Llorean | GodEater: Rewind's a software issue. He was talking about it not detecting the unplug at all - thought maybe teh hardware wasn't present |
17:45:19 | GodEater | Llorean: I invite you to chime into the thread then |
17:45:25 | Llorean | Imma update to SVn |
17:45:31 | Llorean | My current build is about 16 days old |
17:45:36 | drakonik | well shit |
17:45:43 | * | GodEater 'sbuild is usually much older |
17:45:43 | Llorean | Just to verify it hasn't broken recently |
17:45:52 | Torne | drakonik: sounds like you've discovered something :) |
17:45:54 | GodEater | he refers to 3.3 doesn't he ? |
17:46:05 | drakonik | Formatting doesn't work. |
17:46:12 | drakonik | At least, a non "Quick Format" |
17:46:16 | Torne | is your ipod over 32GB by any chance? |
17:46:27 | Torne | windows refuses to format FAT32 filesystems bigger than that |
17:46:34 | drakonik | Nope, 27.85 effective gigs of memory |
17:46:50 | Torne | ...then that sounds like you have a problem :) |
17:46:54 | * | GodEater assumes drakonik means storage |
17:47:02 | Llorean | GodEater: Don't remember. But if it works for me with a pre-3.3 and a post-3.3 build, he's probably either got hardware issues. |
17:47:05 | drakonik | Eh, same thing |
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17:47:10 | GodEater | no it's not |
17:47:15 | Llorean | GodEater: *Or* he forgot that it's a feature that needs turned on. |
17:47:51 | drakonik | Alright, format successful. |
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17:50:04 | drakonik | Minor improvement, it only found 275 files this time. |
17:51:10 | drakonik | And now I play EVE while I let it charge up. |
17:51:38 | Torne | that's about right for the .rockbox folder |
17:51:53 | GodEater | except it shouldn't scan that |
17:52:20 | drakonik | Precisely. And if the database is scanning things it shouldn't, then it's possible that even valid music files might be causing problems. |
17:52:24 | Torne | isn't this the thing with unignore we were discussing the other day? |
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17:52:47 | * | Llorean is having troubles with rbutil now |
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17:52:57 | drakonik | Which is why I'm hoping to figure this out before I start trying to find a single music file that is screwing things up |
17:53:21 | Llorean | drakonik: Even if valid music files ARE the problem, you still need to identify which ones |
17:53:33 | Llorean | And that still requires you to track down which one of your valid files is the problem |
17:53:58 | drakonik | Yeah. I'm just hoping that the database scanner itself is broken, as opposed to my files. |
17:54:02 | drakonik | But |
17:54:03 | drakonik | balls |
17:54:06 | drakonik | so much work |
17:54:12 | Torne | i'd try scanning mine but i have 70GB of music on there |
17:54:16 | Torne | so rescanning the db will take a while :) |
17:54:23 | drakonik | But I can put it off for a few hours while the thing charges |
17:55:29 | Torne | are we actually going to commit the ipod charging patch at some point? :) |
17:55:49 | Torne | i thought we came to the conclusion that its behaviour was no worse than what we already do on lots of targets |
17:56:30 | Llorean | The sooner the better. Probably should start a -dev thread asking what's holding it up, that way we can make sure everything's cleared up and that there's an easy to find record that "yeah, we can go ahead now" |
17:56:40 | Llorean | GodEater: Still trying to test on my Nano |
17:56:48 | Llorean | Apparently RButil 1.2 had some issues. |
17:56:53 | Torne | someone already *did* start that thread |
17:56:55 | Torne | and it petered out :) |
17:56:56 | Torne | iirc |
17:58:45 | * | Torne looks |
17:59:16 | Llorean | Maybe the question is "should we unify how it works on other targets"? |
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18:00:32 | Torne | hrm. actually it might not have had enough testing on some ipod models |
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18:01:59 | Llorean | GodEater: Okay, confirmed. Works in SVN build, 16 day old build, and 3.3 |
18:02:07 | * | Llorean posts about it. |
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18:05:39 | * | Torne tries to write a decent summary of the outstanding questions, between the comments on fs and the comments on irc the other day |
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18:26:13 | saratoga_ | i need to write up another svn invite email . . . |
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18:41:29 | rasher | drakonik: do you have a file in .rockbox named "database.ignore" ? |
18:41:42 | drakonik | yep |
18:42:24 | rasher | And it hasn't gone missing since you last checked? |
18:42:34 | drakonik | right |
18:42:43 | drakonik | I'll check again, jsut to be sure |
18:43:04 | Llorean | Wouldn't the simplest check to be put a new MP3 file with some specific metadata in .rockbox, then see if it shows up in the database? |
18:43:26 | Llorean | Then you'd know instantly whether it was really ignoring those files or not. It has to at least look through them somewhat to look for database.unignore, right? |
18:43:38 | drakonik | Yeah. |
18:43:43 | drakonik | Once it charges up more, I'll try that. |
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18:48:16 | drakonik | yeah |
18:48:21 | drakonik | its there |
18:48:44 | BdN3504 | hey can anyone with a little bit of sansa knowledge help me out? |
18:49:05 | BdN3504 | i have a e270 v1 and been running rockbox on it for over a year without any major issues |
18:49:22 | saratoga_ | ask question |
18:49:26 | BdN3504 | now i can't get the device to connect to my windows xp pcs |
18:49:37 | BdN3504 | the rb bootloader loads the of |
18:49:45 | BdN3504 | and the of is stuck at the language |
18:49:51 | BdN3504 | screen but does not enter usb mode |
18:49:58 | BdN3504 | when i insert the cable |
18:50:06 | BdN3504 | without pressing any buttons |
18:50:15 | saratoga_ | which rockbox are you using |
18:50:24 | BdN3504 | the last release (3.3 |
18:50:26 | BdN3504 | ( |
18:50:27 | BdN3504 | ) |
18:50:41 | saratoga_ | use rockbox's USB mode instead of the OF's |
18:51:15 | BdN3504 | how do i do that? i only know of forcing the player into of usb mode, how do i force it to use rb? |
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18:51:47 | saratoga_ | turn on rockbox, plug in usb cable |
18:51:51 | BdN3504 | kk |
18:51:56 | BdN3504 | sry dumb me |
18:53:08 | BdN3504 | ok rb usb works, but i thought it's loaded by default when the player is off and i plug in usb? has this behaviour changed? |
18:53:44 | saratoga_ | it will be whenever we get around to releasing the updated bootloader |
18:54:05 | saratoga_ | theres an FS task with the new bootloader if you want to try it |
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18:55:12 | BdN3504 | thanks for the info, so this behaviour is the standard behaviour now? |
18:55:38 | Llorean | What's "now" about it? |
18:55:41 | s0u][ight | hello, i'm an ipod nano 3g owner, does anyone know anything about dfu mode on this device, or tryed interacting with the device in this mode |
18:55:44 | Llorean | The bootloader hasn't changed in ages. |
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19:08:21 | val3 | hi all, can anyone plz help me to proper config my favourite theme Dark_Geek for my Ipod 5G/ Rockbox 3,3 ?! |
19:09:20 | val3 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5gGraveyard#Dark_Geek |
19:14:17 | saratoga_ | i think themes in the graveyard don't work |
19:16:52 | Llorean | Yeah, you'll need to read the CustomWps wiki page and manually rewrite any parts of it that are invalid. |
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19:18:34 | val3 | well ok "rewriting" a theme is that a job which is done in 30min or do you need years of experience in rockbox to do the job ?! :> |
19:18:54 | BdN3504 | it's pretty easy |
19:18:55 | Llorean | Depends on how quickly you learn. |
19:19:03 | Llorean | But it shouldn't take long, and requires no previous experience. |
19:19:06 | BdN3504 | if you already have done it |
19:19:31 | saratoga_ | its probably easiest to just not pick themes in the graveyard |
19:19:33 | BdN3504 | take a look at the wpsguide |
19:20:35 | val3 | hehe oki i will have a look thx |
19:20:35 | BdN3504 | most themes that need fixing only require you to rewrite the progress bar code, because not much has changed in the wps part of rb code |
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19:20:54 | val3 | ok |
19:21:28 | BdN3504 | you also might experience that some things are not displayed right on the screen, i.e. somewhere else than they should be |
19:21:50 | val3 | i just love that theme pretty simple but shows all the information you need i dont like the new ones that much |
19:21:53 | bertrik | the crashes on the clip are probably caused by lack of memory, moving the stacks from dram to iram made them disappear for me (but had to decrease the codec buffer size to make the stacks fit) |
19:22:20 | BdN3504 | it's best if you open the bmps of the theme in an image viewer which show you the coordinates in that picture |
19:23:29 | BdN3504 | open the corresponding wps file with a text editor and try to connect the coordinates given in that with the ones you have in the images. |
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19:29:40 | JdGordon | im almost scared to ask..... is there going to be any complaints if I commmit 10406 once the rec screen is fixed for it? |
19:33:29 | kugel | I'm not |
19:33:43 | kugel | going to complain |
19:35:20 | saratoga_ | betrik: how much memory did you need to save to avoid lock ups? |
19:36:09 | bertrik | 0x2000 bytes |
19:36:39 | saratoga_ | thats almost nothing |
19:36:57 | saratoga_ | how could so little memory make such a difference |
19:37:45 | bertrik | it could be corrupting some other piece of memory that is not critical to playback ... |
19:38:11 | bertrik | I'm still not sure what really happens when playback stops |
19:38:31 | bertrik | it does often seem to stop quite gracefully (meaning it can simply be restarted) |
19:38:32 | saratoga_ | can it be duplicated in the sim if the compressed buffer is made small enough? |
19:39:54 | bertrik | I don't know, the sim probably uses a completely different memory map |
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19:50:06 | amiconn | Umm, the list of threads in the forum has a bug. Sorting by last post doesn't work |
19:50:22 | saratoga_ | could someone try the current svn build on the clip and tell me if it boots? |
19:50:39 | Llorean | amiconn: Which list of threads? |
19:51:09 | amiconn | All lists which are like http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?board=27.0 |
19:51:34 | Llorean | Works fine for me. |
19:51:38 | amiconn | Click on the "Last post" header - it sorts somehow, but certainly not by date |
19:51:55 | Llorean | Sorts by date for me, after the sticky |
19:52:18 | amiconn | Eh, didn't notice the sticky. Confusing stuff.... |
19:53:18 | Llorean | Yeah, stickies can't be sorted I believe. |
19:53:20 | pixelma | to whom helped drakonik earlier - the count that the database scan displays is everything it finds (all files, not just music and I think it also counts files and folders as one each) and somehow I *think* that this is not influenced by database.ignore. Also, a try with no music files and only the .rockbox folder doesn't tell much as there is a long standing database bug - with FS# . Apologies if anything of this been said yet, currently skimming |
19:53:20 | pixelma | the logs... |
19:53:28 | Llorean | To avoid them disappearing if someone changes their default sort preference. |
19:53:50 | drakonik | pixelma: I tried with no music files |
19:53:51 | Llorean | pixelma: I'd imagine it wouldn't be influenced by database.ignore, because it still needs to look through those subfolders for database.unignore cases. |
19:54:00 | drakonik | And It came up withabout 275 hits |
19:54:11 | drakonik | Dunno what it means, but there is it |
19:54:16 | pixelma | drakonik: yes, and the database doesn't handle this case well |
19:54:35 | drakonik | But yeah, once it's a bit more charged, I'll try it with a single music file |
19:54:46 | rasher | drakonik: try with a few |
19:54:54 | pixelma | and it will be all files on the disk - inckuding the .rockbox folder |
19:54:56 | rasher | if it finds no files to add to the db, it crashes |
19:55:08 | Torne | 275 is about right for .rockbox |
19:55:11 | Llorean | rasher: I thought that was finally fixed now. |
19:55:19 | rasher | Could be |
19:55:27 | kugel | pixelma: it actually displays tags found |
19:55:31 | pixelma | can't remember seeing a fix |
19:55:56 | kugel | so it might count up by 10 or so per file |
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19:56:18 | drakonik | in fac, it's been charging for three or four hours now, should be good to go |
19:56:30 | pixelma | I remember being told differently... |
19:56:59 | pixelma | what tags would it find in .rockbox? |
19:57:20 | Llorean | kugel: I also was told it's a count of total files and folders, not tags or music files. |
19:57:21 | kugel | no idea, it always displayed 0 if I had no music |
19:57:53 | Llorean | Before it crashed? |
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19:58:26 | kugel | it doesn't crash, it just stucks (or did that change recently?) |
19:58:56 | pixelma | I seem to remeber it displaying 600 something (with fonts and some other extras) |
19:59:02 | pixelma | remember it too |
19:59:18 | Torne | 275 is about right with no extras, just the main build |
19:59:23 | Torne | i checked :) |
19:59:30 | drakonik | I know the answer is probably 'no' but it's worth asking. I've got a JVC ipod jack to take audio output from my ipod into my truck's stereo system, is there any chance it'd work with rockbox? |
19:59:47 | Torne | drakonik: it probably will work at least partially |
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19:59:56 | kugel | then it maybe changed recently. for me, it always stucked with count being 0, I haven't tried that for some month though |
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20:00:00 | Torne | the audio out on the dock Just Works, rockbox doesn't ahve to do anything to make it work |
20:00:09 | Torne | being able to control the ipod from accessories is hit and miss though |
20:00:09 | pixelma | Torne: could you check how many files and folders it is in a PC app? |
20:00:13 | Torne | some accessories work, some don't |
20:00:27 | Torne | pixelma: i downloaded the current build for my player and asked explorer, yes |
20:00:30 | Torne | and it was about 275 |
20:00:32 | Torne | i forget exactly |
20:00:43 | drakonik | also, with a single mp3 file, the database initializes correctly |
20:00:53 | pixelma | ah, I thought that was the number the database displayed |
20:00:56 | Torne | drakonik: the only thing you may have to do is there's a setting for whether to turnon accessory power supply or not. if it doesn't work, change that. :) |
20:00:58 | drakonik | Doesn't scan up hundreds of non-existent files |
20:01:18 | Llorean | Torne: It really shouldn't be needed for a in-car unit, I should hope |
20:01:33 | pixelma | kugel: on your e200? |
20:01:40 | Torne | Llorean: you'd hope so |
20:01:44 | kugel | pixelma: on my e200 it always counts up to some 4k, I certainly don't have that many files and folders |
20:02:08 | drakonik | Let's see if things are still broken. |
20:02:21 | kugel | pixelma: yea |
20:02:25 | kugel | also in the sim |
20:04:31 | JdGordon | gevaerts: whats the story with usb serial? or what needs to be done to get it to work as a reaplcement for the ipods regular serial port? |
20:05:00 | gevaerts | JdGordon: what do you mean? |
20:05:41 | pixelma | then my *guess* is that the number just doesn't increase fast enough before the crash happens. I was very confused on entering a database "folder" and it displays the number of files in that folder - and the number only being 0 on my Ondio. Then I've been told that the scan just finishes quick enough that you don't see the update which only happens every now and then |
20:06:00 | JdGordon | I want to try getting ipod accessories over usb going, I assume they just use usb serial and the same protocol |
20:06:07 | pixelma | ^kugel ...probably easier to notice on a HD target |
20:06:20 | drakonik | I despise Windows and explorer so much. |
20:06:31 | drakonik | I can't even create a new folder without locking it up for five minutes |
20:07:13 | gevaerts | JdGordon: I have no real idea, but I somehow doubt that they use standard usb CDC with the ipod being the device-side |
20:08:59 | kugel | what crash btw? I never experienced a crash with zero music |
20:09:43 | pixelma | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9093 |
20:09:46 | kugel | pixelma: progress is only shown after 0.5 seconds, you basically never see that on a flash based target |
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20:10:15 | kugel | pixelma: that's "hang", not "crash" |
20:10:50 | kugel | hanging is what I experienced too, but the player responded perfectly for the rest of rockbox (because database stuff runs in its own thread) |
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20:11:27 | JdGordon | gevaerts: any suggestions how to try it anyway? I want to use my 5.5g with my av reciever and it works over a regular usb cable... |
20:11:54 | Torne | you mean it just connects like a PC would? |
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20:12:10 | JdGordon | yes |
20:12:12 | gevaerts | JdGordon: if you plug it in, does the ipod detect a USB connection? |
20:12:44 | JdGordon | it connects to the ipod as an ipod with full control... other usb devices are msc |
20:13:42 | pixelma | kugel: I did - if it hung (also the Ondio isn't exactly the fastest flash target, still lot better than HD ones when it comes to listing the content of a directory etc.) |
20:14:16 | * | gevaerts has no idea what JdGordon is trying to say |
20:15:05 | Llorean | gevaerts: IAP for iPods, plays MP3s found on a UMS device for other players, I guess. |
20:15:11 | JdGordon | the av receiver takes full control over the ipod like you would expect (and puts a nice pioneeer logo on it), but over a standard usb cable |
20:15:41 | gevaerts | JdGordon: what happens if you plug it in when rockbox is running? |
20:15:42 | JdGordon | yeah, any other devie just connects over ums |
20:15:50 | JdGordon | connect as ums |
20:17:20 | Torne | i might speculate that it's using scsi commands over ums rather than usb serial or similar |
20:17:28 | gevaerts | could be |
20:17:31 | Torne | as itunes already does that for a couple of things |
20:17:34 | JdGordon | sorry, no... unsupported ipod |
20:17:48 | gevaerts | JdGordon: any chance of bringing it to DCW? |
20:18:02 | JdGordon | not a chance.... WAY too heavy |
20:18:17 | Torne | scsi over ums would also work nicely with compatibility, you just open everything as mass storage then see if it knows the command |
20:18:24 | JdGordon | who has the usb sniffer thingy? |
20:18:50 | gevaerts | I have it here |
20:19:03 | gevaerts | I could bring it to DCW, and then you take it home |
20:19:19 | JdGordon | sounds good if its not being used :) |
20:21:49 | Torne | if it was scsi commands we could presumably dump that in rockbox? |
20:22:29 | gevaerts | possibly, but we'd have no idea what to send back |
20:22:44 | Torne | ...good point |
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20:23:09 | Torne | but maybe useful as a quick check if it's something easyish to do |
20:25:46 | Llorean | They may even be recognizable as similar to the IAP commands, just a different delivery method? |
20:26:31 | Torne | i'm only suspecting this because itunes does it for timesetting and because it's hard to see how it would present any *other* interface over usb with a regular dock cable |
20:26:45 | gevaerts | it's certainly possible |
20:28:22 | JdGordon | im game to try anything here... |
20:28:46 | * | Torne has a look in the ata driver to see how easy it would be |
20:28:53 | Torne | er not ata driver |
20:28:58 | Torne | usb stack |
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20:30:22 | gevaerts | Torne: have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10023#comment29144 for the clock setting thing |
20:30:33 | Torne | it logf's the command |
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20:30:36 | Torne | but not any parameters |
20:30:40 | Torne | for unknown requests. |
20:30:57 | Torne | could easily be made to dump more of the request i guess |
20:31:07 | Torne | handle_scsi in usb_storage.c |
20:31:09 | gevaerts | of course |
20:32:21 | Torne | JdGordon: worth a try, just have it logf the entire request as a hexdump :) |
20:32:30 | gevaerts | it probably starts out by getting this xml descriptor |
20:33:00 | Torne | ah right so you might need bits of that patch first to make it start talking? :) |
20:33:20 | JdGordon | gevaerts: why is your patch so much smaller than rashers? |
20:33:47 | gevaerts | JdGordon: those patches don't supercede each other |
20:34:14 | gevaerts | The first one is for itunes compatibility without clock setting, the second one is only the clock setting bit |
20:34:27 | JdGordon | ah ok |
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20:37:52 | BryanJacobs | builds are not happening out of tree for me... -_- |
20:38:10 | BryanJacobs | "rockbox/build/apps/abrepeat.o: could not read symbols: File in wrong format" |
20:38:23 | BryanJacobs | after doing a target build and then a sim build |
20:38:31 | Llorean | http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi will show you if builds are expected to work. |
20:38:47 | mcuelenaere | BryanJacobs: tried doing make clean? |
20:38:50 | Llorean | If they're good there, we're going to need to know what's different in your environment from just being a clean build in a new folder. |
20:38:55 | BryanJacobs | mcuelenaere: right before "make" |
20:39:08 | mcuelenaere | BryanJacobs: using ccache? |
20:39:27 | BryanJacobs | mcuelenaere: no, and that would affect it anyway because differing arch == auto cache miss |
20:39:33 | gevaerts | BryanJacobs: does make clean actually clean things? |
20:39:40 | BryanJacobs | gevaerts: apparently not |
20:39:53 | BryanJacobs | this is a dirty source tree but a fresh ../tools/configure'd build dir |
20:40:12 | BryanJacobs | so, something isn't building out of tree and thus isn't getting cleaned by make clean |
20:40:15 | Llorean | If it's a fresh directory, why'd you make clean? |
20:40:32 | BryanJacobs | Llorean: it failed the first time on a different .o file |
20:40:40 | BryanJacobs | then I did make clean, then make and it failed again |
20:40:57 | gevaerts | BryanJacobs: did you re-run configure before running make clean? |
20:41:00 | Mikachu | your disk isn't full? |
20:41:12 | BryanJacobs | Mikachu: 27G left |
20:41:17 | BryanJacobs | gevaerts: no, I didn't |
20:41:24 | BryanJacobs | why would I have to? |
20:41:39 | Llorean | gevaerts: Well, if the first run after configure in a new folder fails, what's clean going to do? |
20:41:58 | gevaerts | BryanJacobs: you don't. It could have explained a different make clean behaviour |
20:42:54 | BryanJacobs | everything seems to be compiling fine, it's just not linking... |
20:43:06 | Mikachu | the file it complains about, it isn't 0-sized? |
20:43:17 | BryanJacobs | Mikachu: I can't actually find it at all |
20:43:36 | BryanJacobs | ah-ha! |
20:43:40 | BryanJacobs | found the problem! |
20:43:47 | * | Mikachu takes full credit |
20:43:50 | BryanJacobs | I renamed my build directory before building it |
20:44:01 | BryanJacobs | mv build build-sim; cd build-sim; make |
20:44:03 | BryanJacobs | like that |
20:44:13 | Mikachu | well, that doesn't work :) |
20:44:24 | BryanJacobs | it SHOULD! |
20:44:36 | BryanJacobs | I mean, it should call getpwd() instead of caching the path when you run configure |
20:44:43 | BryanJacobs | err, getcwd |
20:44:49 | Mikachu | getpwned() |
20:45:27 | gevaerts | BryanJacobs: IIRC that was done because it significantly speeds up cygwin builds |
20:45:38 | gevaerts | or no... |
20:45:44 | * | gevaerts was thinking about something else |
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21:29:04 | GodEater | gevaerts: did we end up using the dfu-util thingy on the meizu for anything? |
21:32:08 | gevaerts | GodEater: what do you mean? We use it to get code on the meizus |
21:32:52 | GodEater | I couldn't remember if it was something we required, or we did because we could ;) |
21:33:34 | gevaerts | there's a windows tool for it, so we didn't strictly require it |
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21:37:42 | GodEater | gevaerts: I'm just following the instructions on the linux4nano wiki for getting a 3G nano into dfu mode |
21:37:52 | GodEater | so I can hopefully try fiddling with our dfu-util a little more |
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21:41:33 | bertrik | GodEater, I'm using the meizu_dfu tool on linux, works just as expected |
21:41:48 | saratoga_ | funman: (for the logs) I can play music for an hour or more on my clip with no lockup, but dftk using the same build (i sent him my binary) can't even boot |
21:42:01 | saratoga_ | i wonder whats going on |
21:42:05 | GodEater | bertrik: but to talk to a meizu right ? :) |
21:42:14 | bertrik | GodEater, yes |
21:46:24 | * | GodEater adds a bunch of stuff about the 3G to the Nano2G wiki page. |
21:46:33 | GodEater | might be the wrong place, but we can always move it |
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21:46:51 | GodEater | I figure they're similar enough whilst the "port" is in an early enough stage! |
21:47:53 | n00b81 | cmwslw will re-organize data if it needs to be, don't worry :) |
21:49:31 | kugel | saratoga_: did he update the bootloader? |
21:49:38 | kugel | also, what did you change? |
21:49:52 | saratoga_ | he said he just compiled it from current SVN, but i sent him mind and asked him to try |
21:49:55 | saratoga_ | mine is clean svn |
21:50:24 | kugel | svn works now for the clip? |
21:50:41 | kugel | iirc we were still having the problem during the devcon |
21:51:04 | saratoga_ | you want to try my binary? |
21:51:37 | kugel | no need, my clip is broken anyway |
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22:00:41 | GodEater | n00b81: that's OUR wiki I was referring to ;) |
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22:00:58 | GodEater | I've added info to your wiki too though |
22:01:02 | n00b81 | GodEater: ah, in that case, |
22:01:07 | n00b81 | do whatever you want to it :) |
22:01:34 | GodEater | hehe - thanks :) |
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22:30:16 | bertrik | any IIS experts here? |
22:30:44 | taylor_ | Internet information services? |
22:31:10 | GodEater | s/services/server |
22:31:19 | bertrik | I wonder if IIS communication requires acknowledgement from the codec or if data can just be sent one-way |
22:32:43 | bertrik | if I have to explain what IIS means in a rockbox context, then you probably won't know the answer :) |
22:32:52 | bertrik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%C2%B2S |
22:34:15 | kugel | IIS != I2S? |
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22:35:54 | bertrik | nevermind |
22:36:19 | CIA-71 | New commit by kugel (r21623): test test test |
22:36:26 | kugel | uhhm |
22:36:32 | kugel | fuck |
22:36:34 | pixelma | nice one |
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22:36:46 | GodEater | hahaha |
22:36:49 | GodEater | commit message of the year |
22:37:03 | rasher | GodEater: not to mention the actual changes: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/abrepeat.c?r1=21623&r2=21622&pathrev=21623 |
22:37:20 | GodEater | hahahaha |
22:37:21 | GodEater | awesome |
22:37:35 | kugel | that was my git-svn testing stuff :( |
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22:38:55 | GodEater | kugel: your secret is safe with us |
22:39:03 | GodEater | and everyone else that reads the subversion logs ;) |
22:39:24 | * | scorche|sh pats kugel gently on the head |
22:39:24 | rasher | And the front page |
22:40:26 | GodEater | reads the subversion logs by any means :) |
22:42:46 | CIA-71 | New commit by kugel (r21624): Still failing at git-svn, but I won't give up! The previous commit ... |
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22:47:12 | rasher | What the heck happened for the X5? |
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22:56:12 | saratoga_ | kugel: dftk says my bootloader and main build do not work on his clip, but they're fine on mine |
22:56:52 | kugel | weird |
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23:06:02 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: could a thread not ack'ing SYS_USB_CONNECTED cause USB resets? |
23:06:23 | bertrik | I'm working on getting s5l8700 pcm/dma working, but no luck yet |
23:06:55 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: I'd need to check. Before jhMikeS reworked the USB init, it couldn't. Now, I'm not sure. |
23:07:54 | gevaerts | You could tweak usb.c a bit to reduce the number of expected acks to check this |
23:08:59 | dfkt | saratoga_, the bootloader works (same as my own build), but the firmware/main builds newer than 21550 don't work with it |
23:09:18 | saratoga_ | 21550 is definately the one that broke it? |
23:09:22 | dfkt | i could try an older bootloader with a new build.. that's the only combination i didn't try |
23:09:46 | dfkt | 21550 is the last one i had at hand... i compiled 21600 and 21610, both of which didn't work |
23:10:11 | saratoga_ | but 21550 did work? |
23:10:15 | dfkt | yes |
23:10:55 | saratoga_ | i suppose if you could narrow it down that would help getting it fixed |
23:11:44 | dfkt | there's not much more to say than what i wrote in the ABI thread... but i will try an older bootloader with a current firmware build, just to make sure |
23:12:22 | saratoga_ | i don't think thats going to help |
23:12:53 | saratoga_ | theres a bunch of changes to the SD driver between 21550 and 21600, one of them might have intermittant issues on some units |
23:13:00 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: ok, that didn't fix my problem; thanks |
23:13:21 | dfkt | hmmm, narrowing down in the sense that i get specific builds from svn really takes a long time |
23:13:37 | dfkt | is that what you mean? |
23:13:41 | saratoga_ | yeah |
23:13:52 | saratoga_ | well 6 builds shouldn't take you more then a half hour i think? |
23:13:55 | dfkt | alright, so it's between 21550 and 21600 |
23:14:01 | dfkt | i'll check |
23:14:05 | saratoga_ | thanks |
23:14:34 | saratoga_ | do we still have a mirror of old SVN builds? |
23:14:52 | dfkt | that would help a lot |
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23:17:35 | mcuelenaere | hmm crap, USB is even broken in SVN.. (Onda VX747) |
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23:21:05 | GodEater | does anyone know if Lamda made any progress with using dfu-util with his Nano 2G ? |
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23:21:14 | GodEater | 'lo Zagor |
23:21:24 | Zagor | hi |
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23:37:38 | GodEater | gevaerts: still here ? |
23:37:55 | * | gevaerts yawns and stands to attention |
23:38:13 | GodEater | could you please come to linux4nano-dev |
23:38:21 | GodEater | someone has questions about our dfu-util :) |
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23:38:36 | gevaerts | You mean I'm expected to actually know things about it? |
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